Great info. I was wondering that the regeneration meant.

This is exactly the video I was looking for

Great job with the explanation. I only take the time to talk about it when I have students.

Damn good explanation! Thank you.

That was a lot of "all this shit is useless and sounds prone to leave you stranded"...

A+++!

What’s your input on dropping the filter and taking it to a place for them to wash it out good or no good

@mbarber84

Ай бұрын

They aren’t as easy to clean out as a commercial truck DPF. I’ve seen some folks do it, but not as simple a process.

What additives would you put in fuel got help keep DPF working smoothly

@mbarber84

Ай бұрын

I’m not a big believer in additives. Good clean diesel is what you want. Maybe some additives occasionally to help clean the injectors but I wouldn’t do so routinely.

Good video. Do you plan to make an update review video on your 5125R tractor ?

@mbarber84

2 күн бұрын

@@eof3100 I would love to do that, but unfortunately the farm is in the process of being listed for sale so I’m not sure I’ll have the opportunity.

One correction - during REGEN, additional fuel is sent to the DPF, and the soot is BURNT and turned to ash. The soot does NOT get blown out, it gets burnt to ash, and the ash is collected in the DPF. DPF's get plugged up with SOOT when the REGEN process is not done, AND, the DPF will eventually plug up with ash. When this happens, the DPF must be removed and cleaned.

@mbarber84

Ай бұрын

I never said soot gets “blown” out of the DPF. Well aware of how the regeneration process converts soot into ash via heat. Did you watch the video? 3:00 min mark forward.

I put about 4000 miles on my 22 Ram before the first “regen keep driving” warning light showed up, after that it happened a lot! Mine was delivered without the sensor, they installed it a couple weeks ago with about 16000 miles on it and I got a limp mode/ 95% full notice… they are now changing The DPF filter! My brother has a 21 Ram and he has about the same driving habits as I do “a lot of in town and some highway” he has never seen a regen warning light… My question is what is the specific difference between the 21 & 22 Ram’s? Also are the 23’s &24’s having the same issues? Thanks

@kristineketoon9929

10 сағат бұрын

Did changing the DPF filter fix your constant regen issues? We have a 2022 and have had it in probably 6-7 times since we purchased it due to constant regen and check engine light coming on. We also had issues with overloading code coming on when my husband hauled a gooseneck trailer with only 600 pounds of tongue weight. Most recently they had it for 5 weeks and replaced the air suspension system saying that was causing the truck not to fully regen properly. Since we got it back 1 week ago it has regenerated 4 times in less than 400 miles on it and the check engine light is on yet again. We are beyond frustrated and ready to call an attorney about lemon law.

Drove trucks for a living , bought a 2500 with Cummins , did you say when Ash clogs up , it needs to be replaced . ?

@mbarber84

Ай бұрын

Correct, over time, the DPF will accumulate ash that’s a byproduct of combustion and the removal of soot. It’s actually the remnants of the oil additive packages in your engine oil. The ash will build up slowly in the DPF, and can not be removed through the regeneration process. The DPF has to be physically removed and washed out with chemicals in order to remove the ash. Or, you can just replace the entire unit when it becomes full of ash.

Thanks for the video, super helpful. My 2019 Ram 2500 has 53000 with check engine light "exhaust filter full, power reduced, see dealer" . Two weeks ago I had a mechanic clear the code so the Active regen could take place. I drove the truck for about 40 minutes and all was good. Until yesterday. The filter was showing about 45%ish, the active regen started, but after about 10 minutes, the same error displayed. I have two questions. A: does this mean my filter needs to be removed and cleaned? B: Is that covered under warranty? thanks for any responses.

@mbarber84

28 күн бұрын

Very unlikely that your DPF needs replaced in 53k miles. More likely you either have an upstream issue that’s preventing the DPF from regenerating properly, or something internal to the DPF is causing a regeneration issue. If the dealer is seeing code P242F and basing their judgment on that trouble code alone, that’s not a good enough diagnosis to automatically rule that the DPF needs replaced. There needs to be some diagnostics performed to find out why the truck is not regenerating properly. How do you drive and use the truck? What kind of drive cycles does it see? Are there check engine light and trouble codes active? How many engine hours (drive hours and idle hours)? Factory Emissions warranty is 5 years or 50k miles. Some states have overriding emissions laws that extend the warranty.

@dairyqween

28 күн бұрын

@@mbarber84 Thanks for the quick reply! I have an appt with the dealer tomorrow, so I'll see what they say, but wanted an independent opinion before they suggest replacing it all at my cost. I'll be sure they do some testing. The truck exists in my world to tow our 12K lb trailer, but it's also my daily driver in Arlington, VA with a 10 minute commute to work. It only gets good and hot maybe a few times a month. running hours is about 1200 and idle is ~250ish. I picked up the truck in 2022 at 16k miles after sitting on the lot for a year. I purchased the extended warranty to get me more time due to it being half way through warranty. Thanks again for your response.

@mbarber84

28 күн бұрын

@@dairyqween no problem. With those short drive cycles, it’s not going to get hot enough to regenerate passively, especially if that commute to work is all low speed and stop / go driving. Do you monitor your active regeneration cycles? Do you allow the truck to complete those when the message shows on the dashboard?

@dairyqween

28 күн бұрын

@@mbarber84 I have not paid much attention until two weeks ago. I will now. sounds like I should plan on getting it out to stretch its legs more often. I'm happy to hear it shouldn't need replacing at 50k miles.

@mbarber84

28 күн бұрын

@@dairyqween you really want to try and get it on the highway at 70mph or higher more, especially when it’s going into an automatic regeneration. It’s really important to let those cycles complete. Usually takes 20-30 minutes on the highway. Constantly interrupting those regeneration cycles, especially with a truck that sees repetitive low-speed operation or lots of stop & go, can lead to DPF issues. The truck never gets a chance to adequately remove the soot in the DPF. Also avoid idle time as much as possible.

Riddle me this: My truck (2022 Ram) hauls 12,000+ lbs of granite over mounatain passes 2000-3000mi per week. I constantly get regen cycles, then I watch on my dash as the filter goes from 20% to 100% over a a couple miles, followed immediatley by a "power reduced see dealer" message. My truck was delivered WITHOUT a DPF filter(got the letter in the mail, dealer checked...no filter, I'm on a waiting list)...how is it "full"?

@mbarber84

4 күн бұрын

@@MoragTong_ to clarify, your truck was delivered to you WITH a DPF. 2022 Cummins trucks were shipped from the factory without the Particulate Matter Sensor. This sensor sits at the very end of the emissions system, after the SCR canister, and monitors the exhaust flowing out of the emissions system. It looks for and “counts” soot particles. If it “sees” too much soot, it triggers a code that would indicate that your DPF has somehow failed. Normally this means the filter media inside the canister is cracked, or the canister itself is leaking. To reiterate: your truck still has the DPF and it will function correctly without that PM sensor in place. The letter in the mail you’re referring to is about the Y43 recall, which I discussed in the video. The truck should still function normally even if you do not have the Y43 recall completed yet. The missing sensor has no control over the DPF or its regen cycles. If your truck is in regeneration all the time, especially when towing, then you have a problem. Either the engine is running “dirty” for some reason and it’s filling the DPF with soot too quickly, or there’s an issue with the DPF and its associated systems and it is not regenerating properly. This is a VERY COMMON problem on 2022’s especially. When towing repeatedly, your truck should be able to achieve the maximum time between regeneration cycles, which would be 24 engine hours or roughly 900-1000 miles. I would caution you that if the truck is constantly in regeneration, you NEED to watch your engine oil level and condition VERY closely. Constant regeneration cycles can dramatically increase the amount of fuel diluted in the engine oil and this can rapidly cause more regeneration problems, as well as significant internal damage due to oil shearing and a lack of lubrication.

I drove from Houston to San Antonio with a message particular filter regeneration in progress continue driving almost 200 miles before it cleared the message and returned to zero

@mbarber84

Ай бұрын

That usually indicates that you are either interrupting the regeneration cycles and not letting them finish routinely, or you have something else going on that’s making the regeneration process struggle.

@adrionvalerio1678

Ай бұрын

@@mbarber84 can the inlet and outlet airflow sensors on the death filter be swapped out

@mbarber84

Ай бұрын

@@adrionvalerio1678 it’s one sensor that reads both inlet and outlet pressures. And yes, they can be replaced.

I am getting a message on the dash. Says exhaust filter full power reduced see dealer. Is there a way to force it into regen?

@mbarber84

2 ай бұрын

Not without the proper scan tool. What model year and how many miles?

@surenatashkarian4439

2 ай бұрын

@@mbarber842022 Dodge ram 3500 got a autel maxi

@surenatashkarian4439

2 ай бұрын

@@mbarber84still cant force regen

@mbarber84

2 ай бұрын

@@surenatashkarian4439 with the correct scan tool you can. Certain tools, like a Witech will give you the ability to conduct a stationary desoot.

@Ryanandboys

26 күн бұрын

Same problem twice now with my 22, I am about fed up with this truck for the price we pay this should never have a problem. These things are simply lemons...

What if you don't complete the Y43 recall? Is that a big deal??

@mbarber84

2 ай бұрын

Yes it could be. If you need a pcm flash update in the future, when the dealer uploads the new flash, it’s going to contain the software to communicate with the PM sensor. If the sensor isn’t installed it’ll generate a perpetual “lost communication with pm sensor” code until the sensor is installed.

I am getting a message on dash that says Exhaust System Maintenance Required See Dealer and once it comes on the truck starts losing power! What do you think it is

@mbarber84

5 күн бұрын

Is your check engine light on?

@KMorieElmore

5 күн бұрын

@@mbarber84 I have a 2021 ram 5500 Cummins and mine is doing the same thing as he and my check engine light is on

@mbarber84

5 күн бұрын

@@KMorieElmore hook the truck up to a scan tool and retrieve the diagnostic trouble codes. That will help to pinpoint what components are failing.

At what age/mileage does the dpf typically get full of ash?

@mbarber84

11 күн бұрын

That’s a hard one to nail down because there are a lot of variables that can change that number. Generally speaking I would expect somewhere between 100k and 200k miles. How the truck is operated, the type of engine oil used, etc. all factor in to how long it will take.

I have a brand new '24 2500, starting at about 1700 miles, I started getting a p2459 code. I took it to the dealer and they alleged that everything is working "normally." They then went on to say that they suspect I got bad fuel. I filled the tank with high quality diesel. No matter what driving conditions I have, my truck is regaining between 70 and 130 mi. I have practically no stop and go driving, mostly highways and interstates. The error code returned, but thanks to the dealership hack they have not been able to provide me with a report on the truck, they just returned it to me with the check engine light off and a promise to get back to me. As expected, regened within 70 miles again. Any advice on what I can discuss with the dealer the next time I have to take it in?

@mbarber84

16 күн бұрын

If your truck is regenerating every 70 miles, you have one or more problems with the engine or emissions system. The dealerships have a diagnostic flow chart they have to work through. If the truck is showing code P2459 that means it’s regenerating too often. Nothing about this is “normal” and they need to take a much deeper look at the truck. There is a multitude of things they have to inspect on both the engine and the emissions system in order to determine where the fault(s) is / are. Be aware that when the truck regenerates too often, this can cause an excessive amount of diesel fuel to enter your engine oil. You’ll see an elevated reading on the dipstick, and if it isn’t handled, it can contribute to further emissions related issues and more P2459 code, as the high level of oil and fuel gets drawn into the crankcase ventilation system and then ultimately pulled into the compressor side of the turbocharger. If your dealership doesn’t want to tackle the work, or they’re incapable, you should either attempt to find a mor experienced dealership or contact Ram customer care and file a complaint / report and ask for assistance. It’s a brand new truck. They need to stand behind it. FWIW I wouldn’t go more than 5,000 miles on an oil change until you figure out what’s causing the regeneration issues. I would also obtain an engine oil analysis kit from Cummins or Amsoil and send it out to their lab. Both companies use Polaris laboratories for their independent oil analysis and they do great work. Be sure to note on the submission document that you suspect fuel dilution in the engine oil.

@ernestagnew2383

11 күн бұрын

@@mbarber84 **update** The service manager asked that I take the truck in during a regen, regardless of if the CEL was on or not. It took 133mi for a regen, and they got it right in. They initiate a STAR report so that they could have the communication with the engineering team. The engineer(s) responded that the truck was acting normal based on the drive cycle information they could obtain. Nobody can say why the multiple regens are occuring, nor can they tell me the reason for the CEL, and lastly, nobody could articulate the parameters which would trigger the CEL to begin with. We just passed 2500 miles and they alleged that the engine may need as many as 15000 before it's broken in, and that the issue may self resolve in that time?!? Each time I take it in they force a regen and reset the light, but aren't attempting to fix anything. The selling dealer and the servicing dealer both seem to agree that it's abnormal... But nobody wants to figure why. My next CEL I'll be calling RamCares.

@mbarber84

11 күн бұрын

@@ernestagnew2383 it’s really disappointing that these dealerships and Ram tech support can’t get these trucks figured out. There’s a whole bunch that are doing the same thing. Keep me updated please!

@ernestagnew2383

Күн бұрын

@@mbarber84 Ram returned the truck to me after inspection of the Mass Airflow Sensor and a computer reset. I pulled my travel trailer (5000lb) for 410miles and noticed that the passive regen worked well. Went from 25% to 0 in my first 40 miles and stayed at 0. However, after about 80mi without the load, the dpf meter went from 0 to 12.5%. Coincidentally, I stopped less than a mile later and when I turned the truck back on, the meter read 25%! So it somehow added another 12.5% while off. Now the trailer is hooked back up, and 4 miles down the road the dpf gets to 30%+. Then like before, the passive regen begins, and the filter reads 0%, this time within 12 miles. The remainder of the trip it stayed at 0%, so round trip over 900 miles without an active regen, just passive. But the DPF sensor data is troubling. I'm wondering if either the filter is inconsistently filling and emptying and the sensor is picking it up, or the sensor isn't interpreting the data correctly? Maybe another issue within the computer? We noticed a 15% reduction in our fuel economy as well, but this was our first time on this route so that may not be an important detail yet. I've forwarded the info to the dealer but they won't get the truck back in until next week.

@mbarber84

Күн бұрын

@@ernestagnew2383 for whatever reason, it seems like the 22+ trucks fill the DPF rather quickly when not towing. My truck will go 800-1000 miles between regeneration cycles in cold weather but only 300-500 when the summer comes. I have been testing fuel additives to see if any would improve the time and miles between regeneration cycles. I’ve found that Archoil is the only one so far to do so. I’ve seen a SUBSTANTIAL improvement since starting to use their products. One full tank of fuel treated with the AR6400D fuel system cleaner, followed by a subsequent tank treated with the 6500 fuel treatment. I’m now approaching 800 miles and 21 hours since the last regeneration cycle finished. This will be the first time in almost four months I’ve been able to go further than 12 engine hours or 400 miles between regeneration cycles.

i see why people delete that part when it does fill up.. cheaper route plus no more clogging or regens.

You did a great job explaining, but there is an injector in the exhaust pipe for fueling Dearing regeneration.

@mbarber84

8 күн бұрын

There is no injector for fueling regeneration on the 6.7 Cummins in the Ram HD trucks. On this platform, the engines own fuel injectors are used to fuel the regeneration process. Fuel is injected during the exhaust stroke and it’s pushed into the DOC / DPF. Not all diesel platforms use the “7 injector” or “HCI” to put fuel into the emissions system.

@Jc-bo1uu

8 күн бұрын

You are 100% incorrect. All, GMC ford and Ram have a injector for that. And in the Ram truck is right after the turbo. They quit doing that a long time ago with the over fueling for reiteration because it was causing a lot of problems. Problems like washing of the cylinder and excess amount of fuel in the oil.

@mbarber84

8 күн бұрын

@@Jc-bo1uu I am 100% correct. There is no fuel injector in-line with the exhaust system. Cummins does not use a dedicated HCI in the Ram application. All fuel for regeneration is distributed using the engines fuel injectors. Some diesels do indeed use a dedicated fuel injector in the fuel system, but the Ram 6.7 Cummins is not one of them.

@Jc-bo1uu

8 күн бұрын

I work on them I do know what I’m telling you. Everyone stop doing that a long time ago because of fuel washing. Look from the turbo down, you will see what looks like a sensor with a hard metal line coming off of it. That will be your fuel dozer injector. GM trucks it as right before the DPF. Go look at your truck and follow the The exhaust outlet pipe from the turbo and you will see it.

@mbarber84

8 күн бұрын

@@Jc-bo1uu I’ve been all over these trucks. My Own included. I’m laying under my 2022 6.7 Cummins right now looking at the turbo and the exhaust downpipe. There is no fuel line going to it. The only hard lines are for oil to the turbocharger and coolant lines to the turbo actuator. There is no fuel going to the emissions, and I knew there wouldn’t be. Thats not how Cummins handles regeneration fuel on these trucks. I’d post a picture but KZread doesn’t have that functionality