2:00 - Hakko FR-810 unboxing. 4:53 - Quick 861DW unboxing. 7:26 - Which station makes for easier use of desk space? 9:03 - Quick 861DW interface. 11:00 - A quick overview of my preferred interface and why it is important to be able to change air/heat settings QUICKLY. 11:52 - Hakko FR-810 interface. 12:23 - The FR-810 interface is worse than a 1980s alarm clock. 14:05 - How many button clicks to change setting on Quick vs. Hakko. 15:10 - Quick 861DW program settings & correcting the instruction manual programming procedure. 19:16 - Auto turnoff feature on Quick vs. Hakko 20:14 - Quick 861DW removing RAM chip from 820-3437 board A - 42 seconds. 21:52 - More BS in setting Hakko temperature. 23:26 - Hakko FR-810 removing RAM chip from 820-3437 board B - 140 seconds. 27:05 - Hakko FR-810 removing RAM chip from 820-3437 board A - 96 seconds. 29:25 - Quick 861DW removing RAM chip from 820-3437 board B - 33 seconds. 30:57 - Quick 861DW included nozzles. 32:26 - Quick 861DW ISL6259 removal with nozzle. 32:55 - Quick 861DW RAM chip removal with nozzle. 33:36 - Conclusion - Quick 861DW destroys the Hakko FR-810.

@arekx

6 жыл бұрын

If Quick hot-air works for you then you could also try Quick soldering stations like Quick 202D or QK202D (QK it's rebrand I guess). It's 90W heater using induction (400kHz) to heat tips.

@dkizilkaya6839

5 жыл бұрын

Im checking dutch webshops. The guys who bought it wrote reviews, telling you recommended it and thats why they bought it and they are supper happy.

@WhiteLie---------------------1

5 жыл бұрын

Would hakko fr 810 be good for quick blow ;)

@DarthAwar

5 жыл бұрын

I know you shouldn't have to but to fix the light issue either install LED's or just use a powerboard or surge protector that claims to smooth out the power like a Monster or Belkin!

@DarthAwar

5 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of comparing a iPhone X Max and a Motorola G5s Plus one is cheaper and gives you the fast charger in the box 1080p great battery life a 3.5mm jack and still works great the other is much more expansive does not come with a fast charger, does not charge out of the box has a 1080p screen no headphone jack!

They were right, you were doing your viewers a disservice by not reviewing the Hakko unit. We never knew how bad it was until you did! Thanks Louis for taking the time to do this!

@rossmanngroup

6 жыл бұрын

Anytime! :D

Today I learned that reviews from a person with integrity is more enjoyable than reviews from paid shills.

@prodRy-cg5xb

5 жыл бұрын

bro.........derp......kids these days lol

@CrashRacknShoot

5 жыл бұрын

@@broderp so a pro who wants to have a good product and is critical of inferior product is a bad thing?

@sharrick1208

4 жыл бұрын

Are these sold on his site lol

@therealb888

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrashRacknShoot inferior as in ur personal bias and hatred?

@CrashRacknShoot

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealb888 what the hell are you talking about?

Your Hakko rep is going to throw up when he watches this ;)

@rossmanngroup

6 жыл бұрын

I was very clear about this thing for a long time and they never addressed it. I had asked about sponsorship months back when I realized that my amazon links sold over 100k worth of their stuff and they said no quickly. I think it is for the best. If they did sponsor the channel, it would be an awkward breakup when I inevitably posted this since they seem to have no intention of making a proper hot air station.

@chelseaurquhart4766

6 жыл бұрын

That’s great... I usually just buy the most expensive thing because I expect it to be the best... That’ll save a lot of money when I upgrade from a shitty heat gun to a proper heat station :)

@maurinavoni6925

6 жыл бұрын

if they could put this comment in the hot air station perhaps it would reach 1120º celsius. What a burn.

@Dooban

6 жыл бұрын

Please never stop being critical and keep demanding user friendly interface. Your criticism has more effect than an anonymous users mail and there's no excuse for a user infriendly interface on a device that blows warm air...

@petewasere2000

6 жыл бұрын

Isnt this like a $300 samsung galaxy s7 vs an $600 iphone 7 2017 prices were lets face it the galaxy s7 kicks the living geesus out of the iphone 7 😂 ps... the quick station is well worth its price

This video should be mandatory viewing for UI/UX designers.

This trend of push button digital interfaces frustrates me to no end. Dials work well and easily without looking!

@pldaniels

6 жыл бұрын

The push buttons drive me insane for the up/down. I'd spend another $20 to get them as rotary-encoders.

@decompyler

6 жыл бұрын

No kidding! Rotary encoders are not that expensive. I don't get why every electronics engineer designs products with push buttons where a dial should be. Volume buttons on radios really bug me.

@rossmanngroup

6 жыл бұрын

I would prefer one but for what this costs it is hard to complain. At over $500 I would mention lack of rotary encoders as a con.

@pldaniels

6 жыл бұрын

For sure, at the price, I'd definitely not be complaining, certainly not a deal breaker. Maybe rotary things are seen as to antiquated/lower-budget by the designers.

@parts.changer

6 жыл бұрын

with buttons like that, all you need is some basic CMOS logic chips to hack in some rotary encoders. seems like it could be a simple add-on to me, but a teardown would tell us more.

I have to say that this is the most honest and straight forward review of product comparison that I have ever seen. Good for you, for being honest with your evaluation and not recommending, or even fluffing the comparison for more revenue. There should be more product reviews like this. I wonder how many people actually purchased inferior equipment because the review was dollar motivated instead of being straight and honest. Thank you for being straight. You rock.

I like that you are truly impartial and give true personal opinions and that you wanna spend / waste your time testing equipment for our sake THANK YOU FOR THAT ... you really make my job easier and I enjoy following your videos :)

Thank you for confirming I made the right decision on my recent purchase of the Quick 861DW. Great review, keep up the good work!

Thanx for taking the time to make this.We really enjoy your work!

About holding down preset button to save setting, it is actually extremely intuitive, at least for drivers as usually radio presets in car radios are being set same way.

@Alex_Vir

10 ай бұрын

I think it is generally intuitiv, as just pressing the button to set could also mean that instead of calling the preset you replace it with the current one.

i just received this that Quick station, and allowed me to fix this old amplifier where the mosfets were soldered to the heatsink. Thank you for your video, and demonstration which led me to easier repair work!

I just bought the Quick from your website. Thanks Louis, keep up the great work, I alway enjoy your videos!

@rossmanngroup

6 жыл бұрын

+Proto G thank you!

Perfect timing, was replacing my Hakko 850 from so long ago as had seen your work and wanted to start replacing Microprocessors. Am a massive fan of JBC solder stations the quick change tips instant heat. $2000 for the base model heat station. Saw your review and the components you easily removed and managed to find a supplier if the 'quick' for $240. The user interface sold me. Next looking for a lovely thermal camera that wont break the bank, cheap IPA works well but always room to improve. Thanks for all your work loved the right to repair but the workshop tips equipment reviews watching actual repairs. SMD didnt exist when I started now the SMC devices were beyond what I thought I could repair by hand, had borrowed 80k equipment to do repairs. Dont think I need that anymore. Many many thanks. Think my customers will thank you too. Saves boards from landfill..

As always keep up the good work and it’s nice to see an honest review of comparable products. 👍👍👍

Been away for a while, but EEVBlog2 brought me back. So good to see you're still as great as ever!

@rossmanngroup

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I just fixed a PS3 I had lying around for a few months with a Quick 861DW that I got & learned to use by watching this channel! 😁 Thank you so much Louis for making all of this information freely available!

Great review, Nice to see a product review from somebody actually using these products everyday to make a living.

you know ur product is shit when a $500 cheaper chinesium product outperforms it in every category available

@rossmanngroup

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@Tronny77535

6 жыл бұрын

And comes with free nozzles. :D

@S.ASmith

6 жыл бұрын

I got a cheap £30 soldering station for repairing shit at the radio station i work at.....it performs better than the 3-4 £300+ soldering stations i've used. Heats up well and it can even take large microphone connectors off of boards or large transformers off of things. Oh yea, replacement tips cost about £1 and you get a pack of 5 different tips and you get TWO bevel tips and only one conical tip.

@MartinRys

6 жыл бұрын

Can you name the model/links to buy? Am from EU and looking for a decent station

@rwdplz1

6 жыл бұрын

Except light flickering, because China can't design a power supply.

So glad you've done the review on the Quick 861DA, I recently bought the 861DW after my previous £200 station died (twice), i'd been researching Quick products for a couple of months before deciding on putting money down this particular model. I'm a novice / hobbyist when it comes to the repair scene and my purchases aren't made from repair work profit yet. Knowing you were going to be doing this review had me waiting with baited breat... I'm glad you weren't disappointed with the station which makes me happier over my decision to buy it as opposed to Metcal / Weller / Hakko.

I just found your channel today and I'm hooked! Totally buying the quick, thanks for the recommendation and review!

@DavidWTube

4 жыл бұрын

Lol just popped over to watch Dave's review and it's the exact same unit! Been a EEVblog and Amp Hour fan for years!

this review is what i was waiting for as the quick was om my list to buy for months !!!! thanks!!!!!

In this age of lies,your honesty above the lust for gold, shows you are a man of integrity and honor which is refreshing and worthy of praise. My hat is off to you,sir!

@zerogravitygamin3429

6 жыл бұрын

He’s like a Jesus of board repair

This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks so much for making this! I am a Hakko man through and through but lately the rising cost of their products combine with the astronomical cost of needed but not included accessories has pushed me to look at different brands.

Hi, Thanks for your video is was enjoyable to watch, never seen one of your Videos will be watching more. You made it easy for me to pick the Quick 861. Great honest review well done.

This was incredibly thorough and useful, thanks Louis.

Been waiting for this video, not because I know anything about board repair or hot air stations because I don't, just because when you announced you were going to do this comparison, it seemed like you already knew which way this was going to go, and Hakko are going to be pissed when they see this :)

Thanks for the review!...just ordered the Hakko.

I recently bought one and picked it up in your store. I'm glad that the price of a good hot air station has came down to an affordable price

I am one of the suckers who bought an FR810. I picked mine up about 4 months ago and would not recommend it at all. Some of this things I hate about it: As mentioned, you can not stack your iron on top. The wand never shuts off when you put it in the cradle. The INTERFACE IS HORRIBLE. It is so obtuse, even after 4 months I still have to get out the manual from time to time to change a setting I have not changed recently and can't remember where it is. It does not even come with one tip, I paid about $1k for my FR810 and tips and this thing is a pile of crap. I used to love Hakko, but after getting screwed hard on this thing, I will not buy one of their products ever again. Thanks for the review Louis, you hit the nail on the head, but you did miss the vacuum pickup feature built into the Hakko. I have used it a few times and it can be handy, but also a pain in the ass. Having the button for the vacuum on the wand makes it hard to use as you usually move the handle as you press the button. Kind of like having a switch on a TIG torch, hard to use.

@BL-yj2wp

5 жыл бұрын

I just can´t comprehend how any product designer or engineer could think of an interface that bad. It´s ridiculous, no, right out stupid I´d call it. Just why? How can you make a hot air station so unpractical to use? It´s literally only got on/off, airflow and temperature, maybe a few presets. I´m almost lost for words here.

@docferringer

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure Hakko rationalizes the bad interface as being a security measure to keep uneducated line workers from ramping up the temperature and barbecuing components. Sort of like that blue plastic key that they stick in the front of the soldering stations. I picked up a Hakko FX888D and it came preset to Fahrenheit. As mind-boggling as this sounds, the paper instruction manual does not cover how to change the display between Farenheit to Celsius...you have to go on the Hakko website and download the PDF version of the manual. I have no idea why they included a partial version of the very short manual that excluded important setup information...

That was quite possibly the best review I have ever seen!

Very well done!!! Love the thorough honest reviews. I am blown away by the quicks price/performance. In the beginning of this video I thought I picked up in a slight bias toward the hakko, then I believe I noticed the exact moment that all disappeared and turned inti pleasant surprise..

I just bought a quick today. I also purchased 9 additional nozzles for $24.00. Thanks for the review. Makes me feel much better in my choice of hot air station 🚉! Thanks for your video and comparison.

Very honest, straight forward review. Thanks.

I love the Hakko interface, all TVs should use it, it is so boring to just press volume up or down, digging in menus is so engaging 😀

@rossmanngroup

6 жыл бұрын

+Gregsky 😂

@reprobite

3 жыл бұрын

@@aretard7995 you definitely live up to that name

I'm so going to buy a Quick 861DW now, thanks for the review!

Don't listen to this video, it's nothing but HOT AIR!

@AdversityZone

6 жыл бұрын

and your just being a blowhard *roflmao*

@kbrod666

6 жыл бұрын

Clever this one is. -Yoda

@WhiteLie---------------------1

5 жыл бұрын

Can i use my hair dryer

Alarm clock of the 80s vs. alarm clock of the 90s ;) Thank you very much for your thorough review, Louis!

Nice info very helpfully in what to buy. Thanks Louis. I am a fan of Japanese tools products especially hakKo but I have to say ,They do need to learn the lesson and sort out the interface definitely.

Absolutely love this! Way to go man :)

2:25 vs 18:09 I don't know what to believe, Louis.

@raymondmucklow3793

6 жыл бұрын

d3c0de I'm sure he ment "Like I had to do"

@elliemasonn

6 жыл бұрын

He had to because that piece of art is so difficult to figure out that he had to read the manual in order to explain the problem to the viewers.

@MrDoboz

6 жыл бұрын

well he didn't have to read the manual for just setting the temp, so that's good. it's the extra features that can't be made very obvious easily is not a problem requiring to read the manual, the problem starts when the manual is wrong

@acopernic

6 жыл бұрын

Well for me holding the ch1 button to set temperature and airflow was obvious.

@debug9424

6 жыл бұрын

+Andre Yup, obvious for me as well

I think your doing a great job!, I would advise more editing in the future :) keeps us entertained while watching Thank you for your time!

Don't turn it on, take it apaaaaaart! But seriously, a look on the internal construction of both would be nice.

@Saxie81

6 жыл бұрын

Jorno lol I love Dave Jones.

@MrDoboz

6 жыл бұрын

Good idea, I would like to see that too! :D

@DaveRepairs

6 жыл бұрын

This guy is right, it will be interesting to see how well the heating elements are designed, although Quick is living up to it's name, what extremes temperatures can cause damage to itself? we seen you struggle to get a replacement heating element for the Weller before, is the parts readily available or is this priced at a disposable heat gun (aka 2 years use max, buy another)

@gagebystrom5068

6 жыл бұрын

J Walker, Luis takes apart and fixes electronics on a daily basis and that includes operation of multiple high temperature equipment. Either his building insurance is already solid, or he stopped giving a fuck about that a loooong time ago.

@woopsserg

6 жыл бұрын

godhacker, both types are brusheless. 861DW has small motor, there are also 200l/m versions which have much larger motor.

I’ve learned a lot from your videos. Thanks

I have the FR810. Yours seems to take a lot longer than mine to get up to temperature. With that being said, I've had my eye on the 861DW as a second station. This was definitely an eye opening review too. I love your honesty

best reviews on youtube ever thank you

Thanks for reviewing both and it really is a no-brainer of which one to buy.

Hakko UI is always crap. I don't know why they keep insisting on that garbage.

@Kryoclasm

6 жыл бұрын

Why? Because, some electrical engineer got paid once to design an interface for use by assembly line workers over 10 years ago, then... Sales said, "Should be fine for hobbyists and pro repair service folks too. That way we don't need to take a loss on our profane profit margin."

@michaelallen6754

5 жыл бұрын

He didn't say anything about Louis insisting on it, he's talking about Hakko! Pay attention!

This video is the reason why I ordered the Quick 861dw and will soon be on my bench to replace the cheap one I had started with.

great video / really shows the difference between the two especially the interface / thank you

Well done. Great review!

Thank you very much. Very nice review.

Finally you got the chance to use one of the quicks that we have all been going on about. Now lets watch the price sky rocket :)

Thanks, Louis. I've been thinking about Quick station as of my future investment. And you clearly showed its usefulness.

Brutal review. Love it

Hi, I'm from Germany, and I bought a Cocoarm 861D+ from Ama.....de for 115 Euros (120 $ I think), which was identical in construction to the quick. And after buying it, I saw your test. I'm very proud of my intuition.... All the best for you

Great review Louis

"I'm not gonna try and guess" *immediately tries to guess*

Thank you for the review

Best review/comparison/recommendation EVER! I too am sick of Hakko's interface

I take a shot every time Louis says PP3V42 or PP-Bus.

@MrDoboz

6 жыл бұрын

I remained thirsty after this video

If I didn't already have a cheap hot air station, I would totally buy a Quick now. Thanks for a great review Louis.

Pretty awesome video Louis good review video 😁

great review👍

Great review

Good job Louis!

I just checked ebay for it, the quick is 249€ here in Germany, free shipping... obvious new station for me. Thanks for the great review Louis. Spot on, as always.

@Excellence2012

5 жыл бұрын

Link?

Thanks for sharing and showing 👍

I love the smell of new hot air rework stations in the morning!

thank you for the review, thing is Louis I would have pressed and HOLD the Channel number within seconds as that would be the same process as a Car Radio, if you jump between vehicles you find HOLDing a channel is what you normally do to a radio, so it working just like a car radio to store your favourite stations

I got the Quick Thanks to you my brother I love the station, also I got a Hakko FX 951 soldering station love it too.

After my Yihua rework station quite literally went China Syndrome and melted down (darn thing went white hot before I managed to turn it off) I did a LOT more research (that I should have done first doh) I found your Quick 861DW review. Just got mine today and it’s excellent. So thanks for this, Louis. I would have bought it off you if I lived in the US for sure... but I’m in the UK and US import costs are MENTAL.

Hopefully you can keep the quick around and it's heating elements hold up. If not as long as they are available for purchase and easily replaceable it seems to be a great unit! Thanks for taking the time to review this and update your recommendation. Maybe it will save you so much time you can take more frequent burrito breaks :-)

awesome service like always, sir! it would be nice if you could do a similar review/comparison between the cheap aoyue int963 soldering station and your hakko one. i never used an expesive soldering station, but i am very pleased with the 963 knockoff, so i wouldnt be suprised if it has a similar price/value ration as the quick station.

I got myself this station for christmas 2021, and couldn't be happier with it. The flickering is most likely caused by the 1 kW heater being pulsed off and on to regulate temperature.

Thanks brother very helpfull to me today.

What a mad lad. Gotta love this dude.

The quick channel feature and having to hold down the button actually makes intuitive since to me. Yeah the manual should have been worded properly but I think most people could have figured that out without the manual. But Wow I kinda want to order that Quick now.

The Quick model gives you a lot of bang for your buck. Great review!

I everytime prefer to read user manual at first, but in case of Quick station i quit this after just briefly reading over pages. It seems that it´s translated somewhere in chinese factory from english to chinese and back to english. Anyway - few days ago I bought Quick 861DE (more powerful from DW) and it worth every cent. Brutal power on one side, and very fine performance on the other. It simply works and has no problem with anything i touched till now. Absolutely agree with every word you said. Fantastic machine, my best friend on my workbench. I´m using it with primitive preheater. Btw excellent video, big thumbs up for quality, entertaining and very informative rewiew! Best wishes :)

33:09 "I'm not gona try to guess"... immediately tries to guess - made me laugh

That press and hold to save preset has been present in car radios for ages :)

bought the 861DW half a year ago and never looked back.This thing performs! Also the wellers, hacko's and JB stations are way to expensive here in europe. If I would have had a better budget I probably bought one of those expensive once. But watching your review now I'm glad I have the 861DW anyway. As for solder station I think hacko is still the nr 1 for me. Same reason as for the hot air station, Weller and JB are just too freaking expensive here.

Yes take them apart, also thanks for being upfront about kickback. But still take them apart.

The Hakko had an advantage on it's second run because it was 200 or so degrees when you lifted the handle. Also, the metal piece in the base of the quick is for removing and installing nozzles and you can rest the handle down there to warm it up or so it won't cool down while you put it down. Air is so powerful on quick you blew components off the board even though Jessa say's it's not possible. Lights may have flickered because the quick is more powerful. Also you have to watch where the hakko is placed because it blow hot air at your monitor while cooling down and the quick is blowing hot air into a metal base. Also look at how easy it is to change the heating element on the quick.

@cojones8518

6 жыл бұрын

Not to mention it took longer to just set the temp on the Hakko than it took to set up the Quick and take the chip off.

@SandroRocchi

5 жыл бұрын

I also cringed at the Hakko blowing hot air onto his screen.

Was already planning on buying the quick based on the review that TCRS Circuit did. I'm surprised at the performance gap and especially at the usability gap between the two with the cheaper station being better in both cases. Also Hakko surprised me by not including nozzles, at that price... Personally I think this great. Since rework is new to me the quick is very affordable to get a tool to learn a new skill and be able to do more kinds of repair :)

I would so love to see more analog controls on most anything these days ... It's new it has a "smart" interface ... I selected my soldering station to have an analog knob just to be able to set it in .2 seconds

I have been looking for a great hot air station and applaud you on your thorough review. I agree that the Quick is a superior instrument and was very well thought out. Probably field tested the prototypes and made changes needed to achieve superior functionality. It's always important to do this kind of professional prototype testing before going to production. I am convinced that unfortunately has not done that. Therefore while I also like Hakka products in general, I cannot buy one of their air units. You were very fair in your review and I thank you for your thoroughness. Quick gets my money. Many others will probably vote with their dollars the same way.

I'm using Quick since 2012. Still in love ;)

@milineemilien6865

4 жыл бұрын

Better I think

The metal fork in the bottom of the Quick stand is a wrench with catch tray for removing hot tips

Louis thanks so much for your insight. I am glad to see this Quick review, they named it well it does work quicker then the Hakko!!! I bought a X-Tronic Model #5040-XR3 for only $150 slightly used. Has a pre-heater built in and is in the $350 or less range new! I see it uses the same type of heater/handle/fan built in, that many Chinese units seem to have. Have you actually tried any variation of them in the past? I assume with the same handle heater fan unit they all work the same? I do like the rotary control for airflow! ;-) and the other controls are simple too! I am a lite user, mostly just reflowing chips. The soldering pencil I know is nothing great and I don't really need it. Just as a backup. My Metcal soldering iron and though hole desoldering irons, I do love!!! But Metcal has been pissing me off with not supporting their older (and very expensive) equipment, can't buy new desoldering tips anymore for my SP440 which is a great desoldering station. Also with your Quick station, can you successfully reflow BGA type chips that are not making a good connection without actually removing them? Thanks guy!

Amazing. I never looked at hakko for a minute. Interesting.

Luis you make this fun

Thanks, Louis.

Thank you sir Louis.

Hi Louis, thanks for this. That Hakko is crazy! I have an Aoyue and it's simple (up down arrows) but I totally agree, what is wrong with just dials? So much faster and less components to fail. Just an FYI, I clicked on the "Buy a Quick" just to see current price, and it leads to a dead link on the reseller's site. Thanks again for the review. -Jeff

I agree. I have Hakko; and the interface sucks. it works....but like you say,I find myself avoiding it! Thanks for the update. good info.

Hahahhaha Louis after years of watching you without commenting, i have to tell You. You are a fucking beast in every imaginable way! Thank you for being such a good guy!

Love my Hako 850 and Pace MTS300 solder iron.

I noticed the Hakko took longer to reach the set temp then the quick did, which is why I guess they call it quick. This is probably why the quick out performed the Hakko. I'm curious to see if the Hakko has a setting that would allow it to reach optimum temp faster. The temp fluctuations on the Hakko we're odd as well for a hot air station, not really a consistent warm up. My number 1 concern is the longevity of the Quick. Which only time can tell. Clear winner though is the Quick if it lasts even half as long as the hakko cause you can buy two of them cheaper then the Hakko. Thanks for the review and I can see why you disliked the Hakko.

@BigBoyLies

6 жыл бұрын

check aliexpress. the replacement only costs $60

@KarlBaron

6 жыл бұрын

+S.A. Smith And Hakko isn't even a western brand... it's Japanese, the Japanese were the original killers of western brands due to putting effort into the design process. And now even they're falling behind.

@woopsserg

6 жыл бұрын

I have 7 year old Quick 861DS still running strong with original heater. No concern about reliability.

@pohkhui

6 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Tabor you are perfectly right.

@pohkhui

6 жыл бұрын

S.A. Smith if you refer to Hakko, it is Japanese brand.