I'm honestly most impressed by you getting the name right every single time you say it. To me it all just sounds like a mouthful of letters and numbers with just the last letter distinguishing the product.

@olivrrrr

Жыл бұрын

HDTVTest would be proud 👏 🤣

@marzok9632

Жыл бұрын

Like every other Monitor-Brand, the letters are choosen completly logical/meaningful, too --> So its relatively easy. AW = Alienware 34 = 34" diagonal 23 = for year 2023/Generation D = "Dual" HD for 1440p W = "Wide" for Ultrawide F = FreeSync-Version

@petarracic6740

Жыл бұрын

He’s reading off a script

@devindykstra

Жыл бұрын

@@marzok9632 oah shoot! I had no idea there was a method to the madness! It makes so much more sense now. Thanks a ton!

@zimbu_

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion they should just keep adding characters. Like G for "glossy", ∆ for "triangle RGB", then maybe just arbitrarily decide π°-2 means "178 degree viewing angle" and add that to the name etc.

The way Monitor names just rolls of your tounge, in particular at 5:51, is just amazing. Now that is hard work.

Can't wait for your coverage of the new Samsung and Phillips OLEDs!

Received the dwf last week, its absolutely stunning!

I picked up the 34dwf version and I’ve had it for two days and it’s phenomenal I can’t complain at all.

@CalasTyphos

Жыл бұрын

Is it true you can only set it to 10bit with 100hz?

@xLolSquid

Жыл бұрын

@@CalasTyphos This is true with an asterisk, yes. Out of the box, at 3440x1440 resolution, only 60/100/165 Hz refresh rate modes are shown in display settings. 165 Hz only does 8 bit color with dithering, 100 Hz does 10 bit color. Supposedly, setting a custom resolution can allow the monitor to run at 157 Hz and use 10 bit color (haven't tried it myself).

@clownavenger0

Жыл бұрын

Yeah ive been gaming on mine since July DW ofc and ithese monitors are just great. I can't see myself upgrading until at least the warranty runs out in 3 years

@EarthIsFlat456

Жыл бұрын

I got the dw when it was on sale because I own nvidia cards. But definitely would've got the dwf if I owned amd cards.

@lukawagner7242

Жыл бұрын

@@EarthIsFlat456 how much did you pay on sale ?

The G-SYNC module in the DW-model provides automatic HDR tone mapping for games. This explains the better performance compared to the DWF.

Thank you for reporting the issues you find to the manufacturer. It's hard to ever get through tech support and provide technical feedback as a consumer and actually have it acted upon. Amazing review, thank you!

@techquad1151

Жыл бұрын

i have good news for U then: i`s not hardware its a software problem. so i`ts a problem addressed to Microsoft /windows now. it will be fixed. and this screen has firmware updater. rly nice!

@ShredBird

Жыл бұрын

@@techquad1151 Good to know, thank you for the update! Have you been in correspondence with Dell?

@techquad1151

Жыл бұрын

@@ShredBird no im just a tech guy that live to dig and learn :) and this is for all today O-ledd pc monitorer due Windows: font shape actually. To not dig to deep on my text… Anyway this will be updated. I belive Linus talked about it I finally. I knew this for 2 months now.

@MrRotch61

Жыл бұрын

3 months later and it seems like there's still not a new firmware addressing the issue :( (Last firmware as from Nov 2, 2022 at the time of this comment)

thanks for doing this review, always been looking to figure out the differences between the 2

Great review. I always come back for what I believe is the most important part of any monitor review: the input lag tests. Far too many reviewers leave that out, and it’s really hard to take their reviews even remotely seriously. I’d love it if you guys would review the new ASUS 1440p 360 Hz or Zowie 1080p 360 Hz.

Your reviews are seriously a godsend. I’m sure I’m not the only one who appreciates all the effort you put into your videos. Hope this comment brightens your day a little. Thank you

Those all green squares in response times section are a treat to the eyes. Feels so satisfying.

i love mine! i have the original DW with the fixed newer firmware

Very happy with my DW. Considering I came from VA. The panel looks gorgeous and sooooo clean! Most of these things you find I don't even realise being the average gamer and all. For racing Sims the monitor is phenomenal as high speed stuff is very clean!

@giobaldu

Жыл бұрын

do you get obnoxious fan noise?

@harrygaylordrums

Жыл бұрын

@@giobaldu no mate it's not bad at all. I can have the monitor on, middle of the night trying to sleep and can barely hear it.

@harrygaylordrums

Жыл бұрын

@@TonyTheTiger1000 Ur so dumb. It's not a bad monitor, maybe just doesn't fit your needs. It's a great looking monitor.

Great review! I picked up the DW based on your review and I'm super impressed. I always went with the DWF but I heard there was some HDR weirdness and I also liked the lower VRR range with Gsync Ultimate and the white/black color scheme. Can't go wrong with either.

@glitch2998

Жыл бұрын

Hi, im thinking of geting the DW model also, can you give me your thoughts on the monitor as you've had it for a while, thanks.

@KarnageKollectibles

Жыл бұрын

@@glitch2998 Still have it and love it. No issues, perfect out of the box. No marks on the screen from bubble wrap. It's tremendous quality and feel from the base to the panel. The only thing you have to get used to is the ultrawide format and get some addons that will crop to the screen if you want. I find that movies scale nicely, especially ones that were made with UWS in mind and videogames. KZread is hit or miss since most stuff is 16:9. You can still zoom in but most of the time I don't since I want to see everything. Go with the DW as the DWF still has HDR accuracy issues. As for gaming this screen is god like. In HDR everything gets so damn bright it puts my LG CX OLED to shame. Best gaming upgade I've done since buying my LG CX for my PS5/Series X.

@Kyler_97

Жыл бұрын

@@KarnageKollectibles how is the fan noise on your DW? I’ve heard some say they hear it/can be loud, and others say inaudible. Maybe the loud fans were from the early adopters? The audible fan noise (if applicable to newer DWs) and worse input lag makes me want to go with the DWF, but the worse HDR makes me want the DW!

@KarnageKollectibles

Жыл бұрын

@@Kyler_97 I have never heard the fan. That was one thing that put me off from it but I figured if it wasn't as loud as my PC then it wouldn't be a big deal. I do wear headphones a lot so that might play into it a bit but my PC and PS5 are way louder than anything else that I hear. My PC isn't that loud either. It's just above ambient room noise unless I'm playing a game. I've heard some people say that every monitor is different when it comes to fan noise but I think it's more down to how quiet the room they are in is. TL:DR. It's a complete non issue. Other than the price, this monitor is damn near perfect IMO. I upgraded from a 27" LG GL850-B.

@_Av3nTad0R_

8 ай бұрын

is there any burn in you experienced since you bought it?

just ordered a dwf version ! cant wait! thanks for the reviews Tim!

@indian-tech-support

3 ай бұрын

Any burn in ?

fan noise was what i cared for most. thanks for covering this.

I bought this model from Dell the first day it dropped into retail. They delivered the next day. Now thats service. No regrets so far.

@kelownatechkid

Жыл бұрын

Dell is surprisingly reliable, their store has a whole wack of random stuff and it's often on sale lol

@GM-ex5io

Жыл бұрын

I have one and mine as coil whine coming from the back. Is yours completely silent ?

@ferpeo

Жыл бұрын

How about watching Netflix? I want to use it for 4K movies, since I don’t have a TV. Is it good? Even if it is 2K display?

I'm glad I got the DW based on the hdr eotf curve. I've enjoyed the more accurate hdr presentation compared to my old X27. I was concerned about the fringing from the subpixel array but it turned out I don't notice it unless I REALLY try to look for it.

@selynar4889

Жыл бұрын

I'm running an x27 myself. How's the pixel density, and colors and what not.

@Kenjis9965

Жыл бұрын

@@selynar4889 The reduction in pixel density wasn't as bad as I was worried about thankfully. I think the higher contrast of the OLED makes the text look sharper than you'd expect. I do not notice the fringing (as I said before) either which is good. It's not quite as crisp as 4k obviously. But Id say I think it's better than 1440p, though I've not used a 1440p display in a while. Colors are just amazing on it, though it took a little adjusting, the QDOLED is more accurate than the X27 in hdr (my color meter won't do HDR so I can't calibrate in hdr, only SDR) the end result can appear "flatter" to your eyes at first because it's a more accurate and less oversaturated presentation, this coupled with an overall lower average screen brightness in HDR can be a bit flat looking at first, go play a few games though and you'll realize it's a much better experience. Small highlights have more impact due to the per pixel lighting, details and bright areaa are "crisper" because there's no blooming from the dimming zones. Dark games like Darktide are absolutely stunningly beautiful even without HDR. I played one of the opening missions in Cyberpunk and the police car headlights during one of the background stories were literally dazzlingly bright. The tree in Elden Ring is magnificent, Overwatch 2 is smooth as butter and has very vivid colors. Mw2 looks gritty and real with stuff like overhead lights being very bright when you look up at them. I'm also a photographer who does photo editing on it and the color accuracy is fantastic for creative work as well. In my dark room the Alienware is way less fatiguing than the X27 in HDR and has a way better presentation due to the complete lack of blooming. In SDR there's no contest the Alienware just flat out wins because of the infinite contrast ratio. Motion is buttery smooth as well and you can easily hit 175hz with a decently capable GPU in lots of titles. I absolutely loved my X27 mind you and think it's one of the best LCDs you could get, but the Alienware is just better in every way.

Nice. Waiting for the Phillips, Asus and LG 27" OLED panels...

6:25 I was surprised by this when I first saw a QD-OLED panel in person. First thought it was running in limited range mode. It did seem like the subpixels were glowing slightly their own color so I wonder how much of this is reflected light and how much of it is ambient light exciting the quantum dots to emit light back. Either way it's nice to see it pointed out although as I mentioned in a comment on a previous video it would be nice to see how much that affects the contrast ratio values in a bright room.

Great review! Was wondering if the AW2723DF is also in the works for a review? Would love to see the differences in the new version for that one as well. Thanks

@ktm-kr9mm

Жыл бұрын

I'm returning mine the colours are terrible and they tried to making it to bright with the contrast levels low even with calibration I will not recommend this monitor I will be buying the 34 intch alienware

With Samsung’s OLED G8 getting a $1499.99 price tag in US, DWF is a no brainer

@ReveredDead

Жыл бұрын

Especially considering Samsungs Quality control is dogshit. Lmao

Thank you, Tim. There's nowhere else I can go to get this sort of information.

Great review, but I’m more interested in the 27in 1440p OLED monitors coming soon. Get to test drive the LG variant as soon as it ships!

I personally took the leap on this when the DWF dropped going along with my new 12GB 3080 build. Its absolutely stunning to game on, and worth the money. I also work from home and use it all day for productivity work. Its honestly been great for that too. The 3 year warranty really helped me take the plunge.

@selynar4889

Жыл бұрын

What's the Framerates like? I'm currently on a predator x27 4k, but have been thinking of going ultrawide for a while, and the fact that it's oled....

@Daniels656993

Жыл бұрын

@@selynar4889 Its a 1440 p monitor so your framerates will improve compared to 4k.

@selynar4889

Жыл бұрын

@@Daniels656993 Yeah it's pretty much 3K monitor. I know they'll improve but I'm trying to get an idea of what it's like. Will I hit the 157 friends per 2nd so I can run the 10 bit color as well. Or will it be less. I'm trying to decide if I want to switch to ultra wide now or if I want to wait until the next generation of video cards say the 5080 or 5090 Then switch to a super ultra wide or an Oled 4K. I can get a refurbished alien wear for like $900 or by 1200 brand new my 4K monitor still sells for like 12 to $1400. So I just wanna know is it worth switching or should I just wait. How maybe even saw my 3080 and get A4090 when they come back in stock in a few months

@justace123

Жыл бұрын

@@selynar4889 Framerates are great for me personally. A lot of MW2 recently, and with a lot of things maxed, I'm always over 120 FPS, and hit 140 to 150 FPS on some smaller maps. My only target personally is 120 FPS, everything else is just gravy. But anything over 100 FPS requires 8 bit color. You'd be hard pressed to notice the difference between 8 and 10 bit color without measuring it.

@snoop_official

Жыл бұрын

I'm all about dat quality gaming and productivity work. I ain't no stranger to dropping a little cash for the best setup, and it sounds like you made a smart move with that 3080 build and one of those monitors. I ain't never tried the 3 year warranty, but if it helped you take the plunge then it's all good in the hood. Keep on keepin' on, my G.

DWF is superior in every way, from idle power to having no issues regarding the GSYNC module adding noise, latency, etc... plus it's cheaper. It is an upgrade in every way. Nice!

@jamesroberts3642

3 ай бұрын

Yeah but you don't get real gysync

Got the Samsung OLED G8 with this same 34" panel. Had ordered the DW which never arrived, and then waited for DWF which hasn't even released in my country (Finland), so the South Koreans got my money :) I hope I'll enjoy it a long time! Congrats to everyone who have received their QD OLED goodness

I just ordered mine yesterday, can't wait for it to arrive. Its my first upgrade from my current 8 years old Samsung U28D590D TN monitor.

@indian-tech-support

3 ай бұрын

How is it after a year

Hope that at the beginning of 2023 we will have some 32 - 4k oled options!

@JimBob-gu9yx

Жыл бұрын

Me too, I got a 42" C2 but it's too damn big. Even a 37" or 36" OLED monitor would be nice, or maybe a 38" ultrawide.

@milanbalaz4337

Жыл бұрын

It's what i'm waiting for as well.But it's very unlikely.You can expect 32 inch 4k Oled in Q2 2024, maybe even later.There are mamy technical issues to be solved.

If I remember correctly Jay did a video on the new-ish consumer electronic power laws and found that G-sync monitors (at least all of the ones he had) idled at a much higher wattage than the others(even the freesync ones)

@thestrykernet

Жыл бұрын

I didn't even know about this until one of the people at Chips and Cheese mentioned this was true of anything with a G-sync module because apparently they don't power down and since they're an FPGA they use way more power than a specialized chip would.

nice vid! I hope you will also review the 27GR95QE from LG :D

if you change the panel's timings to the cvt-rb preset, you can get 10 bit 150hz. with custom timings you can get 165hz 10 bit

Would you check out the Odyssey G8 OLED in the future? I am interested in the difference between all the QD-OLED panels.

@timlolxP

Жыл бұрын

Its the same panel, so differences only come from firmware and the hardware. Like cooling, fan, psu... Dell uses the Samsung panel and its the only 34" oled panel on the market.

@foetor

Жыл бұрын

I Got also the ich G8 OLED and sold it because all the smart TV stuff was very slow and it is more a TV than a monitor. But it got 144hz 10bit, USB-C…I am happy with the DWF

Thank you for giving feedback to Dell. Hopefully they actually fix the HDR performance issues as my DWF that I got this week has awfully blown out HDR performance to where its unusable. However, I did buy the panel for its other strong points and I mainly game SDR 99% of the time anyways. I am not sure why the 10-bit colour restriction got a shrug off tho tbh. If the DW can do 10-bit at 144Hz then why on earth is the DWF lacking here. Manual timings seem to work via nvidia control panel but I can not get manual timings to work with AMDs software. It keeps calculating the G. Pixel Clock wrong, which then throws timing total off. Either or excellent review I am relieved about my purchase especially now we know the DWF is king of total input lag!

@vertigo_one

Жыл бұрын

I think they gimped the top end Hz and 10bit aspects to give a selling point to the DW.

@DreamyWoIf

Жыл бұрын

@@vertigo_one The most probable reason. Though some lad got the 10-bit on DWF all the way to 157 hz with manual timings. Posted all the info on Reddit too, shouldn't be hard to google it.

I bit the bullet and picked up one of these last week. I've been absolutely blown away by it.

Good review. Excited for future monitors using this tech, if the subpixel layout must stay the same, I hope maybe a 27-32" 4k version can improve text clarity.

@Natsu_Macaron

Жыл бұрын

The text clarity is not due to the resolution here 2k is quite enough to have a clear text with a good panel. We just need improvment from the os we use

Dell just released a FW update (M3B103) for the AW3423DWF that should fix the HDR issue ! It would be really interesting to do a revisit of this monitor with the new firmware.

@CopiousTurtle

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was browsing the comments to see if this issue has been addressed since the video is 3 months old at this point. Looks like I’ll be going with the DWF model for my new PC. Thanks again!

@tyler7356

Жыл бұрын

Thats fantastic to know thanks for sharing, you just helped me make my decision.

@geomatt911

Жыл бұрын

New firmware is out HDR1000 is now fixed.

@SamGrossmanEG

8 ай бұрын

What’s the problem

Bought the dwf upon release. While it has no audible fan noise to me, my monitor had a significant amount of coil whine stemming from where the processor is located close to the top right part of the monitor. Noticed it immediately when working in a quiet room. Seems to be a wide spread issue but only noticeable to those with sensitive hearing. Seems like it is back to the 3821dw for me, which sucks because the oled screen itself is amazing.

@flyingpj

Жыл бұрын

Had to return mine too for the same thing

@Tezla_Insanity

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the warning, I'm very sensitive to coil whine and similar noises! Shame would've liked this monitor. :

@CoffeeeNBears

7 ай бұрын

Liar

@avengement89

7 ай бұрын

@@CoffeeeNBears I still have the monitor and can still hear the whine. Come on over and hear it for yourself.

Got this monitor when it was released and on sale. Been loving it for a month now. Using it with my 2070 super. Gaming with it is amazing. Media consumption is unreal. However for photo work in creator mode and using a spyder calibration device I only get 93% sRGB. So I’m editing in standard mode calibrated and get 99% sRGB.

The community over on Reddit has been a bit confused about how this monitor behaves compared to the DW for AMD vs Nvidia users specifically for HDR. The source tone mapping option doesn't show up for AMD GPUs while it does for Nvidia GPUs, but that maybe seems to be because it's always on by default for AMD GPUs? I know it's unlikely, but it'd be lovely to have some sort of follow-up from an experienced reviewer on whether there are differences noticeable in the behavior of the monitor when using one GPU brand over the other. Every big review I've seen appears to use Nvidia.

@monitorsunboxed

Жыл бұрын

I believe this is because on AMD it uses FreeSync Premium which already does source side tone mapping in supported apps/games. For what it's worth I primarily test on an AMD GPU, but B roll is captured in an Nvidia GPU. It looks pretty similar but can't say I did in depth AMD vs Nvidia testing

@s1aver1

Жыл бұрын

This monitor with an AMD GPU is using it's AMDs own version of source tone mapping, which is supposed to be superior to the option, which is why it's grayed out. He reviewed using an AMD GPU and EOTF is still garbage and ppl confirmed it still clips early so not dynamic tone mapping like the AWs HDR 1000 mode either. Seems like HDR is borked on this monitor.

@BugLondon

Жыл бұрын

@@s1aver1 Isn't the clipping the entire point? It shouldn't be dynamic tone mapping. I imagine as a console option it's there so you can actually use the ps5 and xbox hdr calibration with the monitor and would work like the hgig option on lg tvs. And from what i've seen people are saying the source option fixes issues with hdr for them.

@s1aver1

Жыл бұрын

​@@BugLondon Dynamic tone mapping is probably the wrong term. If you use the PC equivalent the Windows HDR Calibration app the the DW(HDR 1000) calibrates to 1000 nits as you'd expect but the DWF(no matter what you do) to 500nits this likely due to the overly bright EOTF tracking. So you are forced to choose between overly compressed range or clipping(if you just set it to 1000 anyways). The DW adjusts EOTF rolloff based on MaxCLL metadata I don't believe the DWF does this. Also adjusts EOTF rolloff based on and based on % Window to prioritizes preserving highlight detail where as the APL on the DWF in HDR 1000 seems more aggressive than Trueblack 400, which given the the panels limitations doesn't make sense for an HDR 1000 mode.

@BugLondon

Жыл бұрын

@@s1aver1 i have seen people say the get the windows hdr calibration close to 1000 with different contrast settings. From what i have seen from samdung displays and their tendencies toward intentional overbrightening there has always been ways to impact the eotf with some user settings as well. although having an accurate picture mode is preferable anyway.

Would love to know how this compares to the latest announced asus & lg 27" oled 240hz monitors. Especially for color & peak brightness for hdr. Pls tell me you are getting a sample of that lg/asus?

Great video, thank you. Also great video quality that looks absolutely stunning on my new DWF! (It would have been ok to have just referred to "DW" and "DWF" throughout the video)

Just got this, replacing an older AW3418DW (IPS). It’s fantastic, and the text fringing is not as bad as you would think. One interesting tidbit, if you Google for it you can run up to 150hz 10-bit color with a simple custom resolution profile, and it works perfectly. If you consider this monitor as a 144-hz gsync compatible 10-bit monitor, it’s well worth the current $800-$900 USD cost. Strongly recommend using a colorimeter to calibrate the monitor, it helps tame the over-saturation as the reviewer mentioned, it really helps. Works perfectly with Gsync, which was a big concern I had.

IDK if the newer DW are quiet but mine was delivered in July and I've never heard the fan once. could be newer firmware.

The newer Freesync model AW3423DWF out of the box has a problem with HDR in games where black/very dark areas are actually grey and desaturated/washed out in color. I noticed the issue first in Resident Evil Village, and just recently again in Borderlands 3. You can work around the game HDR blacks-are-grey issue by using the monitor's on-screen display settings, go under Game, turn Console Mode ON, then under the same Console Mode setting, turn Source Tone Map ON. My brother has the older AW3423DW model and his monitor did not have this problem.

@RingTalks

Жыл бұрын

No? I do not have this issue at all. On my DWF. I didn’t have to set it to console mode and all my HDR content have been SUPERB

@adamek9750

Жыл бұрын

probably the gsync module doing its thing. Interestingly, the DW still has flickering on dark scenes occasionally.

@ZekeS-

Жыл бұрын

@@RingTalks yes, it is an issue - I have the same problem. Are you using an AMD or Nvidia graphics card?

@xLolSquid

Жыл бұрын

@@RingTalks Might be hardware specific. I'm running an RTX 3070 with 5800X3D. For both games, the HDR looks great when the scene is well lit. I didn't notice anything off until I was looking at low-light textures indoors. For Resident Evil Village, I first noticed the issue during the first bit of gameplay in Ethan Winters' house, while you walk around the place holding the baby. Looking into the glass cabinets, instead of seeing the wooden texture behind the glass, I saw patches of grey. The first save point inside the church also had this kind of grey pattern where I expected to see dimly lit wood textures. In Borderlands 3, I saw this effect going on in pretty much every corner of a building, where the light was dimmest. Interestingly, using Win+Shift+S keyboard shortcut to take screenshots reverted the image (temporarily, for the screenshot) back to SDR, where the textures and color were returned to normal. Playing either game in SDR did not have this issue. I tried changing between 8 bit color with dithering and 10 bit color, updated graphics drivers, updated to Windows 11 (hoping the auto HDR would fix this issue. It didn't, would also have the same problem), disabling Gsync, disconnecting my second monitor, etc. Nothing fixed the HDR blacks in-game until I stumbled upon a reddit thread where someone said Console Mode + Source Tone Map fixed their issue: www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/yw1ekw/hdr_issues_with_new_aw3423dwf/ I'm definitely not alone with this problem.

@RingTalks

Жыл бұрын

@@ZekeS- I am using Nvidia, no issues with my panel at the moment.

Got my AWF last week and I’m in love, it’s beautiful

I returned my dw when I heard the dwf was coming and I'm glad I did. For the price it's no different to me, and honestly even with my nvidia gpu I can't tell if the module made a noticeably worthwhile addition. With that said, I've had some oddities such as Windows dropping HDR (I had to re-enable it a lot to fix the problem which could be driver specific) and the monitor showing DP1 disconnected until I did a power cycle and then the issue went away. I might still have to RMA if this continues, but hoping that firmware bugs and issues with HDR can be resolved.

I'm normally a massive proponent of the Gsync module in LCD monitors due to Nvidia's excellent implementation of variable overdrive. I never see any ghosting or inverse ghosting on my AG273QG largely because it can switch overdrive modes depending on what I'm playing. However, I've decided to upgrade to this monitor over the variant with a Gsync module because you don't need overdrive on OLED monitors.

@Markalot284

Жыл бұрын

So you bought the AMD freesync ultimate version and you still can use Gsync?

@RafaMazurekRMZ

Жыл бұрын

@@Markalot284 yes

@AR-ke8wg

Жыл бұрын

What is thr gsync performance like? I have read that it's not great with flickering in some situations

@RafaMazurekRMZ

Жыл бұрын

@@AR-ke8wg its monitory by monitor cases - hardware g-sync module don't have anything to do with it other then hardware g-sync also mean certification that test for it. You can have great VRR is both cases but lack of certification in vesa vrr mean a bit more wild vest. I will say it again - its certification not hardware, so if nvidia or someone makes certification without hardware it would have similiar value.

@CheapBastard1988

Жыл бұрын

@Markalot284 Yes, Nvidia cards (Pascal aka 10 series and newer) are compatible with all "Freesync" monitors since a driver update in 2019 (or so). The ones conforming to Nvidia requirements are called "G-SYNC-Compatible," but all "Freesync" monitors work. The function can be activated in the Nvidia control panel.

I've had the DWF for a few weeks now and I love it. It's crazy how responsive this monitor is over my old LCD monitor. One thing Tim mentioned was how if you want 10-bit color you have to turn down the refresh rate to get it. What he didn't mention is that on the G-Sync DW model you can get it by turning the refresh rate down to 144 Hz, whereas on the new DWF model you have to turn it down to 100 Hz as there is no 144 Hz setting for the monitor. That is a much bigger sacrifice to get 10-bit color on the DWF. This is another thing Dell can fix with a firmware update though, so hopefully they do that. I've seen a lot of people complaining about it, so I'm sure Dell is aware of it.

@on99kfc

Жыл бұрын

try setting custom resolution maybe?

@cresp0

Жыл бұрын

This is false - you can get 10-bit at as high as 150hz on the DWF.

@BrunoLouviers

Жыл бұрын

Not true at all. I have the DWF running at 10bit and 144hz, and you can go as high as 157hz.

@ThunderingRoar

Жыл бұрын

doesn't really matter that much, just use max refresh rate with 8bit+FRC

@dremy746

Жыл бұрын

@@cresp0 Yes, with manual overclocking. There's no built in 144 Hz mode and most people have no idea how to manual overclock a monitor panel.

Great review! What settings in DisplayCal would you use to calibrate this?

This is far and away the best comparison between the two models I have found. Thank you. Helped me decide to get the newer cheaper model to pair with my 3080.

The latest firmware upgrade somewhat fixed the HDR issue. You just have to set the contrast to 67% and make a few other tweaks. Found all of that on Reddit and now the monitor is flawless... but you have to dig to find the optimal settings and then key them all in. Still not perfect out of the box.

@ParanoidBishop

9 ай бұрын

Do you have a link to the settings guide?

@SwerveNation

9 ай бұрын

What r all ur settings?

One HUGE difference which has been missed here is that the original DW which I own can't receive a 4k signal from media devices like the Fire Stick. Because Amazon and Disney don't support HDR 4k content in the browser you are literally unable to watch any content from them in HDR on your incredible HDR monitor... But I heard that this isn't an issue on the DWF?

@mangekyou9722

Жыл бұрын

can't you make a custom resolution to bypass this issue with amazon and disney?

hello Tim thanks for this amazing review I especially love your HDR performance comparison videos in that light I was wondering if you have the Philips Brilliance 7000 27B1U7903 planned for review anytime soon? I think that being a 4K monitor with 2304 dimming zones it is something I would like to see on the testbench regardless keep it up I will be watching your content

Another great Monitor review, since watching you guy's I have learned a lot of monitors.

@jamiejohnson157

Жыл бұрын

1440p

I have a recent DW variant with updated firmware and there is no fan noise audible in my quiet room, nor could I spot any image quality problems so far as I can see. Gorgeous image quality. Text rendering is fine to my eyes considering this is a gaming monitor. I also prefer having the GSYNC Ultimate module since it can sync down to 1 Hz, but both variants are excellent purchases.

@snoop_official

Жыл бұрын

No fan noise in a quiet room? That's some next level stuff right there. And the image quality is gorgeous? I'm all about that high-def life. And the GSYNC Ultimate module syncing down to 1 Hz? That's some serious business. If you're looking for an excellent gaming monitor, this DW variant sounds like the way to go.

@JimBob-gu9yx

Жыл бұрын

Dang, I wished mine was quiet when I had the DW version. In my quiet room it was very loud. Swapped it for a 42" C2 and it has no noise issues and text looks better.

@efabiano82

Жыл бұрын

At what time do you game at 1fps?

@CheapBastard1988

Жыл бұрын

@evanm.fabiano3332 Chess maybe? I struggle to understand the benefit. Because ordinary VRR monitors just duplicate frames when they go out of range (20fps->40Hz etc.) It sure doesn't matter for power consumption as the G-Sync module uses quite a lot by itself.

Something I noticed on the AW3423DW using HDR in windows 10 vs windows 11 in Halo Infinite. For some reason the input latency was higher in windows 10 using HDR where I couldn't hit my targets due to the input lag. Though with HDR turned off the input lag was quick and responsive. Coming from a Samsung G7 240hz I know what low input lag should feel like. In windows 11 with HDR turned on the input lag felt just as good as the G7. Just curious what OS HUB used when measuring input latency on the AW3423DW?

Great review! Will you be reviewing the Samsung-equivalent S34BG85 at some point?

The no audible fan pretty much sold me on this model. I was always tempted to get the first one but kept hearing about faults.

I truly wish they would finnaly do a 32inch regular monitor at 4k with these specs.

@JohnDowis

Жыл бұрын

This is the holy grail I've been waiting for. I've tried and returned several OLEDs since the 48" C1, but I have decided 4k 32" OLED, non-widescreen is what I am waiting for. Here's hoping 2023 is the year they make one.

@Dianaranda123

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDowis Never had any of these displays as they simply dont fit on my desk, and are to big anyhow for my liking. Hence why i just wait for a regular 32inch 4K screen.

@N0N0111

Жыл бұрын

5K and 6K monitors for the bigger sizes is a welcomed one too.

Still no regrets with the DW since I've used it for so long, the fan noise is annoying at times. Other than that, can't go back to a matte coating anymore, glossy simply looks much better. I even swapped out my secondary monitor to a 16in OLED from Asus, once going OLED, can't go back!

@indian-tech-support

3 ай бұрын

Has there been any burn in

@WhiskyTanuki

3 ай бұрын

@@indian-tech-support nope

@indian-tech-support

3 ай бұрын

@@WhiskyTanuki what do you mainly use it for and are there loads of static content , watching KZread. Thank you

@WhiskyTanuki

3 ай бұрын

@@indian-tech-support mostly daily web/some word processing, youtube, gaming, some games might have static content, and I don’t use auto hide task bar, no burn in yet

@WhiskyTanuki

3 ай бұрын

@@indian-tech-support won’t be too worried with the 3 year burn-in warranty, after that I’d probably upgrade to something else

Thanks for the comparison

As always, a great offering thanks.

That is a massive reduction for input latency, really kills the Nvidia myth that G-Sync is a competitive advantage.

@JackoWillMakeLives-loveu

Жыл бұрын

GSync is superior because it has a wider operational fps range than FreeSync. Not sure what you’re referring to regarding input lag.

@little_fluffy_clouds

Жыл бұрын

@@JackoWillMakeLives-loveu True. I have bought the DW precisely to get GSYNC because it can keep in sync with the monitor down to 1 Hz. I think the non-GSYNC models are limited to 48 FPS minimum.

@little_fluffy_clouds

Жыл бұрын

@@CTSpartan yeah, I have an RTX 4090 and I don’t just play games on it. Being able to support lower GSYNC refresh rates is useful when working with complex Blender scenes and also editing 24 FPS film content

@little_fluffy_clouds

Жыл бұрын

@@CTSpartan you were right though, it’s not a useful feature for playing games as long as you have a beefy enough GPU.

@wile123456

Жыл бұрын

The FPGA module is so outdated now

The variable refresh rate with the DW model goes down to 1 frame for those heavy games that run

@Born_Stellar

Жыл бұрын

tearing is less of an issue at low fps with a high hz monitor. and if you're going to spend $200 more on a sub 60fps adaptive sync module, maybe just spend $200 more on a better gpu?

@yassm

11 ай бұрын

​@@Born_Stellar Good point. Best to spend to 200 more on a higher end gpu than 200 more on a monitor to make up for a lesser end gpu

Just bought Viewsonic XG321UG and very happy with it. Can you make review on that monitor?

Thank you for this indeep, fantastic review. So much knowledge, i bought this monitor after watching. Honestly, you are a trusted source, i will continue to watch and listen. Respect.

Got this monitor 4 days ago and its absolutely perfect. Just a heads up if looking to purchase, make sure you ask Dell Chat for a better price as they knocked mine down by $60

@georgeyoung9985

Жыл бұрын

You just simply asked for a discount? Is this for the UK or US?

@mxracer0327

Жыл бұрын

I can attest to this. I did the same and got 5% off and free overnight.

@arrken33

Жыл бұрын

@@mxracer0327 wtf. Are you for real? Where are you from? Did you just ask for a discount or did you beg a little? Like "I want it but it's a little expensive" kind of thing.

@TheBlazingRiver

Жыл бұрын

@@mxracer0327 you can get up to a 10%, just got about £100 off, so might be worth trying again…

@TheBlazingRiver

Жыл бұрын

@@arrken33 are you a student or NHS hero? - you can get 10% off

Wow, I didn't expect dropping the g-sync module would affect the input lag like that. Would be interesting to see some TN panels as well in your test comparison sheets. Maybe the benq Xl2566k would be worth testing?

@mugabugaYT

Жыл бұрын

The input lag for this monitor is exactly the same they just updated their testing method to more accurately measure OLED panels

@andrewmorris3479

Жыл бұрын

@@mugabugaYT Did you even watch the review? The processing lag dropped by 4.4ms…

@muffinman2621

Жыл бұрын

@@mugabugaYT 9:40 In the video it is attributed to the scaler. He also tested the g-sync version with new testing method, I think that was related to response time, not input lag.

@TylerMcCool

Жыл бұрын

@@mugabugaYT Can you elaborate or post link / reference?

Was the input lag tested with the GSYNC module on or off, the difference is huge.

As an owner of the original DW model I am just happy that more people can afford and experience QD-OLED. I run it at 144hz 10bit so honestly there's no difference except cost between the two. For anyone on the fence, if you can afford it, get the DWF for an incredible OLED experience.

@Drunkmonk2122

11 ай бұрын

I’m so drunk and high got DWF I have a nvidia Alienware so I was thinking I made a mistake but your comment made me feel good broski ya I could spend 400$ more for g sync but there both dank either way I appreciate this comment ima keep my DWF

in germany the Odyssey g8 oled was available for a short time and i got my hands on it with a student discount and a free 2tb ssd and man that monitor is a clear 10/10, before that i had the dw but the fan noise was ridiculous. and I've heard the dwf still has 1 fan and annoying coil whine (due to the psu being in the monitor). the Odyssey g8 oled doesn't have a fan and the psu is external so no coil whine, the g8 even came with a protective cover which i haven't even removed, it's really well attached with no bubbles etc. 👍(this also prevented the scratching problem that the dell monitors suffer from) and the hdr performance is astonishing. the inclusion of a remote and pretty much smart tv features are a welcome addition. for example you can update the firmware via wifi... i hope this helps somebody who's thinking about buying an oled monitor. edit : oh yeah it has rgb too :D it can sync with what's on the display, however it is a bit laggy, so the colours need like half a second to match what's on the screen, i hope a software update will fix that, also for anyone interested i paid 1350 euros, sold the 2tb ssd for 150 so that's 1200 for the monitor and the dwf costs 1100 here. also remembered the g8 can do 175hz 10bit no problem, i hope hardware unboxed will review it soon as it's a damn interesting monitor compared to the dell

@james.telfer

Жыл бұрын

All sounds perfect apart from it's curved. Now it they could release a flat one...! 😄

@ahmedsabti5302

Жыл бұрын

@@james.telfer honestly the curve is very subtle, it's nowhere near as bad as the Odyssey g9 curve...

@Tephnos

Жыл бұрын

Sounds good, except the G8 can't sustain a high brightness level at all due to the lack of fan… OLEDs get hot. You need a fan or heatsink.

@gigiacoma2231

Жыл бұрын

hope you right cuz I already bought one :D hope it comes before christmas

@spaghettilocomotive

Жыл бұрын

@@james.telfer You'd want a flat ultrawide? 👀

I (and a lot of other people) hit an issue in HDR where dark tones would be severely washed out unless we put the monitor in Console Mode and enabled Source Tone Mapping; did you notice this ever, and what GPU did you use while testing? (One theory going around is that only Nvidia cards experience the severe wash out issue)

@xLolSquid

Жыл бұрын

I had this issue in both Resident Evil Village and Borderlands 3 so far. Source Tone Map fixed it in OSD settings. RTX 3070 + 5800X3D.

@VCoKhronis

Жыл бұрын

I had this issue (though I'm using DW not DWF) in RE village, 4090 + 5600x. I don't have the source tone mapping option, but changing to 10 bit 144hz and hdr auto off worked for me.

@Beokabatuka

Жыл бұрын

I have not had any washed out issues on my 6800XT with or without console mode (source tone mapping is always greyed out), but I have only played cyberpunk and monster hunter rise.

@monitorsunboxed

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was on a call with Dell and explained the issue in detail. It's over to them to fix it.

@RathalosEmperor

Жыл бұрын

@@Beokabatuka MHR looks beautiful on these monitors

i now have a DW, and i love it!!!!!!!, thank you!!!!

Yeah the input lag and fan-noise was a dealbreaker on the older model. Currently waiting for my DWF :)

Damn, a hardware Gsync module adds 5 ms of input lag? That's not negligible at all!

@radamantysk1

Жыл бұрын

if we disable g sync?

The older model has been on sale and cheaper than the newer AW3423DWF regularly...for example BF sales had the older model on sale $200 cheaper than the 'F' model

@owlmostdead9492

Жыл бұрын

Yes and for 200$ less you get no firmware updates and a lousy fan cooling the useless g-sync module.

@mrwalker6026

Жыл бұрын

@@owlmostdead9492 not at all.. Recent AW3423DW's have different firmware to launch models that featured in reviews. I don't hear any fans on mine that has the latter firmware especially over my PC fans.. Gsync module helps to eliminate issues like VRR flicker that we've seen in LG/Samsung displays particularly when using HDR and VRR together ..some manufacturers can't even do both simultaneously

thank you for the review.

Excellent video, thank you!

Cheaper OLED monitors are good. We need a 4K OLED, 32", 240Hz with good HDR under $1000 US.

@mjsa4914

Жыл бұрын

Without risk of burn-in!!!

@pedro4205

Жыл бұрын

@@mjsa4914 And that makes coffee

Now, in 10 years I might be able to afford something like this. Still, thank you for all the hard work on reviewing this.

@natesilvers2166

Жыл бұрын

Why can't you afford it? It's not that unattainable to anyone employed unless you have debt or a lot of outgoing expenses. I only work part time 20 hours a week but I could buy one after saving up 2.5 months. I don't have a car and live minimally though.

@CheapBastard1988

Жыл бұрын

@natesilvers2166 It may be dependent on his local living standards. In a third-world country, the price of the monitor could easily be about 4 months of salary. And they, of course, mainly need that money to live from.

This monitor is currently at the top of my list.. I do want to see what CES will show before I make the purchase.

I bought the Samsung OLED G8. Can’t wait for the review

Can anyone remind me what the advantage of the G-Sync module is supposed to be? Seems to me like it's all downsides in this case.

@Raivo_K

Жыл бұрын

From what i've heard: HDR tone mapping, variable overdrive and support for

@MLWJ1993

Жыл бұрын

@@Raivo_K The better LFC has been useful on some 30 fps games I simply can't run at a higher framerate due to broken physics. That's the only scenario I actually make use of that though.

@MrHamof

Жыл бұрын

@@MLWJ1993 Isn't frame doubling a thing? Pretty sure the monitor can just run the same frame twice, so you get "60" fps when the game is running at 30. I've heard of that anyway.

@MLWJ1993

Жыл бұрын

@@MrHamof that is exactly what LFC is (Low Framerate Compensation). It doesn't always work well on Freesync displays though.

I want the non-curved oled monitors to be available!!! CES 2023 sounds like they're going to showcase a bunch.

Lg c2 42 inch is on sale this week at Best Buy for only 799! Just picked that up. Absolutely gorgeous

@Apollo-Computers

Жыл бұрын

Really, I may have to get it at that price.....

@Cubenruben110

Жыл бұрын

@@Apollo-Computers I think you have a day or 2 before the sale ends but I am enjoying it a lot

Got it since a few days and it is very good!

Sat twiddling my thumbs waiting for a 38” version.

@laggmonstret

Жыл бұрын

Sat? Meaning You did jump on this one after all? ;)

@NecroMorrius

Жыл бұрын

@@laggmonstret Nope still waiting to replace my LG 38 with an OLED 38.

One hassle at the moment : Why does the DWF Monitor switch OFF after PixelRefresh and doesnt go to Standby ?? Each time i have to turn on it again after Refresh :( Still the DWF has a Fan in it. Lost one of the two from the DW. But i never heard the one in my DWF. Only when it is set very bright and often white scenes it spins audible. Also Dell offers 5 Year Warranty upgrade for most Monitors EXCEPT the QD Oleds. So thats not a good sign.

@brutalwang4106

Жыл бұрын

Hi. I have the F version. As far as I'm aware you can just ignore the pixel refresh until you turn the PC off. It will do the pixel refresh while it is in standby. There is an option you can check to tell it to do it when it's in standby mode.

@EliteProductions3129

Жыл бұрын

I set mine to automatically run the pixel refresh only when the monitor goes into Stand-by and it will go back into Stand-by after it's finished.

@residentCJ

Жыл бұрын

@@EliteProductions3129 That is ok but the refresh has to be done every 4 Hours and i want the Display to do the refresh when its needed. It wouldnt go in standby on mine because i use it 8-12 hours.

@EliteProductions3129

Жыл бұрын

@@residentCJ I have a second display and Win + P to turn off the main display when I feel like I'm hitting the 4 hour mark. I wasn't going to live with that annoying popup interrupting games and whatnot for something I can manage myself pretty easily.

@EliteProductions3129

Жыл бұрын

@@residentCJ Also, I think being TOO careful is a bad way to go about it. If it's going to burn-in you want it to happen during the warranty period. Be extra cautious after they've replaced it and/or you're past your warranty date.

Only reason im not getting this monitor is widescreen and i sure hope we will get normal version of this monitor

Can you please do a deep dive into gsync differences between the two models? If the dwf does gsync well enough I would go with the dwF model as the black colors works much better for my setup. Thx

I got my DWF yesterday and oh boy... HDR OLED is a gamechanger but I am honestly not sure if 1100 euros are worth it. I might return it.

@StevoHDA

Жыл бұрын

look at it from the perspective that you're doing your eyes a favour with the significantly decreased blue light

@TehF0cus

Жыл бұрын

@@StevoHDA you mean increased, right?

@WyattOShea

Жыл бұрын

@@StevoHDA It's negligible. If you go outside in sun light you get so much more blue light from just being outside for a few minutes than sitting in front of a screen all day.

@StevoHDA

Жыл бұрын

@@WyattOShea oh right yeah here comes the mythbuster. Well done. It's obvious blue light isn't going to be like the day and its also obvious most people use their monitors at night ESPECIALLY these qd oleds that are made for gaming after a work day. Less blue light in the night DOES improve eye strain and DOES improve sleep quality. Why tf do I have to specify this to you.

@WyattOShea

Жыл бұрын

​@@StevoHDA Idk why you're so pressed about my comment bro you ok?. You literally wrote "look at it from the perspective that you're doing your eyes a favour with the significantly decreased blue light" As in somehow blue light from monitors were causing big issues with people and all I was saying is that it was negligible if you didn't know as the sun according to different studies I've read puts out literally 100k the amount of blue light of most monitors so even one tenth of that would be so much more than any monitor that the amount of blue light from a screen shouldn't influence your buying decision as it makes so little of a difference. You never mentioned anything about sleep quality or anything up until your reply with me. I was just going off of what you wrote in the first place lol there's no need to be a douche to me for just trying to inform you on something when I thought you didn't know as evident from your original comment.

I would’ve gotten this had it had HDMI 2.1. I have a Series X and PS5 on top of my pc so I really need that. Hopefully the new LG OLEDs coming out have 2.1.

@iceman2266

Жыл бұрын

Or you could go for the LG C2 42" OLED that supports HDMI 2.1 and is an excellent monitor for PC use as well.

@TheEnd0117

Жыл бұрын

@@iceman2266 42 inches is way to big for me, I did think about it but I don’t want a monitor that big.

@EliteProductions3129

Жыл бұрын

LG should have some 27" OLED monitors coming out in a few months. A standard aspect ratio would probably suit your needs better.

@theoldpcgamer77

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEnd0117 You can make a custom resolution for pc and use a smaller screen size. 1440p is 28".

@TheEnd0117

Жыл бұрын

@@EliteProductions3129 for sure. They have their 240hz OLED 1440p coming out this month. I’m waiting on reviews before I pre order one.

great video.. but main question is if its gonna be sold like AW3423DW (Dell websites/Amazon and few others big retailers) or availability will be wider.. cause its kinda pain in the a** to buy one in some EU countries

Thanks for the great review. This is already a bit better compared to the GSync version. I really wonder how the Samsung and MSI monitors will do. Im still hoping one of those will have a improved screen coating that gets it a bit closer to VA LCD's i dont think they can match LG's levels without a second generation QD OLED pannel. (if Samsung is able to reduce reflection further).

@mxracer0327

Жыл бұрын

If I'm not missing, this is basically the Samsung before the Samsung and they use the same panel.

Fan noise from a monitor would be a deal breaker for me. I didn't even know active cooling for displays was a thing.

@VictusPrime

Жыл бұрын

You can't hear it. The idle noise of your PC will be louder than the monitor's fans. You especially can't hear it if you're playing any other audio from music/videos/games etc.

@L330HH

Жыл бұрын

@@VictusPrime Facts. I can confirm.

@bjorntrollowsky4279

Жыл бұрын

@@VictusPrime The main problem on long term is that it gets noisier as it gets dusty, it can also get noisier as the fan gets older and starts to break down as every mechanical device does. And probably you can't clean it easily to make it less noisy.

@wile123456

Жыл бұрын

OLED TV can never keep their peak HDR brightness because of this. Only a few rare TV's, like Sony, uses heatsinks to minimize heat

So much information in one video but with actual chapters so I can go to my main interests or concerns. Absolutely excellent. My question here is, does the curved screen make playing games you'd plat at 1080p weird? For example, if I wanted to play dota2/LoL, would the curve make it weird?

are you aware that dell is shipping the dw and dwf in such an awful way that leaves smudges or many hairline scratches on every monitor? instead of shipping the monitor with that plastic peel thing like samsung does. you should warn viewers who are not aware of that, cuz buying the alienware is a gamble.

Ever since switching to 4K 27”, my now secondary 1440p 27” just looks bad. With DLSS I can still push the same frames as I could before and visual fidelity is great. Next upgrade planning for an eventual 5120x2160 144hz ultrawide oled

Not sure if i just missed it or if this was implied, does the dwf model work with HDR and Gsync at the same time like it would on the DW model?