Pulling Multiple Dents and Dings with a Stud Welder - Start to Finish
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@KevinKimmich440243 жыл бұрын
Since used car/new car prices are going bonkers lately, I imagine a lot of people will be keeping their old cars much longer. Learning a lot from all your videos. Thanks.
@MrClarkisgod
3 жыл бұрын
Especially trucks. C10s and OBS trucks are definitely making a big comeback. I have a old Ford step side and I get offer to buy it every time I drive it.
@KevinKimmich44024
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrClarkisgod I have a 1997 F250--it's a beater though that I paid $1500 for and use for errands after fixing it up a little. I see the nice ones on craigslist and they just keep getting more and more pricey.
@erichzimmerman7973 жыл бұрын
Hi Jerry, I hope you're having a great summer. I don't have a stud welder yet, so I've been using finish nails as studs, tacking them with my mig welder. Its not glamorous, but I thought I would share the idea with everyone; it works well. Thanks for another great video, stay cool my friend!
@lschneider6109
3 жыл бұрын
Is it really wrong if it works!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You too Erich - sorry about the late reply - sometimes I don't get alerts on comments and end up missing them :)
@joernone3 жыл бұрын
Back in 1976 I was living in Japan and had the occasion to visit one of their auto body shops. It was the first time I ever saw a stud welder. Instead of using a pogo stick to pull the dents they had a small slide hammer designed to grip the studs, then repeatedly working from one stud to the other, would methodically work out the dents. When done, almost no filler was needed. It was impressive.
@that_thing_I_do3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love a guy who uses all the right safety equipment too.
@makojuicedaniel9307
Ай бұрын
except a face shield while pulling right next to his face.
@jimurrata67853 жыл бұрын
I did enjoy your demonstration of working with a stud welder and pogo stick. 👍 Obviously a lot better control than a slide hammer. Thanks for the lesson. Have a great weekend Jerry!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - glad you enjoyed it. You have a good weekend too :)
@45AMT3 жыл бұрын
What's surprising besides the awesome job Jerry did on the body work is that there's a GMT 400 truck this age in Michigan that the bedside isn't completely rotted out on.
@husky12323 жыл бұрын
Come out realy nice great job and have a nice weekend stay sfe
@UndergroundPaintKing3 жыл бұрын
You make it look to easy Jerry...Great work!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks UPK - always a pleasure hearing from you :)
@bluesman69553 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Jerry. Your tips and technique are very valuable. You do a terrific job of explaining how it is done.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bluesman - I appreciate the support - always good to hear from you :)
@Tomsfoolery.3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thanks for taking the time to explain the technique as well as show it.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. You've got a nice channel - Jerry
@BearBudgetTurbine2 жыл бұрын
Lot of info on this video. 👍 After watching your videos on bodylines several times I was able to complete a complex(for me) compound bodyline repair earlier this year. Not on the first try! But I kept going back and working until only a sharp eye could ever tell it was crunched before. Once it was painted, I was very content the results. Stud welder is on my list for the coming year as I have more projects lined up for next spring/summer/fall.
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
That is just great to hear. It's good that you stuck with it. Each time you do it - you get better and better. Thanks for the story Scott :)
@CA-pv5ie3 жыл бұрын
You're the man Jerry! Thanks for another great video.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and you're welcome. Good to hear from you as always :)
@pstreetgarage73043 жыл бұрын
Great job as always. Love the pogo stick. Such a great system
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it PSG - have a great week :)
@ChipsAndSparksGarage3 жыл бұрын
That pogo stick looks a lot more controllable than a slide hammer. 👍
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're right - pull from almost any angle with light or heavy pressure.
@PnwOnTour
3 жыл бұрын
🛻 🦯🚶♂️💥
@davidstone6819 Жыл бұрын
Thanks from Down under. Love some of your terms, Bondo Hog , we just call it bog. So would be Bog Hog😅 1% tool 20% touch 20% sound 20% vision Balance = Skill David
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome from Michigan - the tool does have a cool sound for sure. Thanks for watching David :)
@carlos921613 жыл бұрын
Nice job thanks for teaching us personally I really appreciate it god bless you always
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Carlos - God bless you too. Have a good week :)
@franksalgado7071 Жыл бұрын
Muy bien trabajo
@ernesttofani4167 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jerry! Well explained with all the details of how-to shown.
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ernest - enjoy the rest of the week :)
@Fireship13 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I always learn something from watching your videos. Thanks!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - thanks for the support :)
@gergemall3 жыл бұрын
I need this vice grip flat end puller. I was able to get some deep dents out with my pogo puller yesterday,
@RestoringChristine1956 Жыл бұрын
Perfect! Thanks so much for a great, straightforward demo!
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome RC :)
@michaelmarusic84993 жыл бұрын
👍🏻Thanks for another great video. You sure make it look easy! The only problem I found with ordering the feather fill is when you get the can it’s in rough shape.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right! That's funny. Mine was all dented up too. Crazy.... Have a good weekend Michael.
@alyjan53163 жыл бұрын
Once again amazing tutorial 👍
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Aly Jan - have a good weekend :)
@scootherring93142 жыл бұрын
I noticed you have glasses or safety glasses on an I too wear glasses now but here’s a tip for you again Sometimes I work on two or three at a time so I put first coat on with blue or red cream hardner and then the other one on second coat for quicker low to high spots and if I do used a third it’s usually for the fact I’m trying not to use two part putty I mix both half and half for a gray color on my final sanding I love the black guide coat to look for scratches and pinholes also that was a neat ideal with 2x4 to set poko stick on
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scoot and thanks for the tips. I found these for my safety glasses - they are magnified lenses like reading glasses. www.safetyglassesusa.com/pyramex-emerge-safety-glasses-translucent-gray-frame-clear-full-magnifying-lens/
@alandust21883 жыл бұрын
I was kinda hoping you'd leave the sign and just clear coat it. Another great video....thanks! Almost forgot, thanks for listing the tools and materials.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
That would be cool actually - good idea for a video :)
@olegronvold31612 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@EASTENDGLEN Жыл бұрын
watching you spray, you sir are a machine.
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend - I appreciate the kind comments :)
@martymurphy96273 жыл бұрын
As always, another great video.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marty - have a good weekend :)
@bobgreen31163 жыл бұрын
Another great video Jerry. I wish we lived closer. We could play guitar and work on cars... 😂😂 keep the videos coming. Great info as always. I have learned a lot from you.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
That would be great Bob. Always cool to sit down and jam with someone else. I'm glad to hear you're learning a lot - love it. Have a great week my friend :)
@DaddyyCrab3 жыл бұрын
You do nice work. Talented!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Daddy Crab. Cool name BTW :)
@DaddyyCrab
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody no problem sir. Thank you!
@gtrdrejugfde2883 жыл бұрын
Great video
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@lschneider61093 жыл бұрын
forget the question on the clamping block as I've looked much closer and see what it is. Was in the sun too much today, ha!
@15farcry3 жыл бұрын
Very good Jerry! Your videos are always very helpful no matter the subject! I really appreciate you taking the time to film your work while adding tips and instruction. Was wondering at 16:00, will the front edges of the bed be sanded with just a small block sander?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Yes - that does look a bit rough. The whole area will now be block sanded nice and straight (I'll make a video on that - real detailed). It will be primed again, finish sanded with 240-320 (DA) your choice of grit. Then finally painted. Glad you like the content - good to hear from you Ethan - have a good weekend :)
@robertcampbell56052 жыл бұрын
I’d just fix each individual dent then lay the primer thick. Screw working 2 pounds of filler
@satamanschmidt34283 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video but I've got to point out one issue. You reduce polyester spray filler (Feather Fill or any of the others) with Acetone and not Lacquer Thinner. Other than that this was really a good issue.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's the boss made us use lacquer thinner - I believe the can said thinner too but not sure. I'll have to research that. I believe it has something to do with environmental issues that it was changed. Might be wrong though. Thanks for the comment Sataman - always a pleasure to hear from you - have a good week :)
@TheEcono613 жыл бұрын
Suprised there was that much metal in that wheel well..
@TheRealTonyCastillo3 жыл бұрын
I don't see this question addressed to much on use of stud guns or using welding tabs so my question is: If using a stud gun like that( which I just recently purchased) what is the procedure for the car battery and or the computer or pcm for newer cars/trucks? Is the voltage more in the area of the stud gun and not a concern for the electronics? I slide into a concrete bridge barrier on an over pass turn on a slick evening with my 2011 durango and the rear wheel arch inside the door is pushed in a bit, it's not thin metal and wonder what the best solution would be for pulling it out. I have a dent pulling kit with slide hammer/ stud gun or a welder to weld some tabs on the areas, my concern with the welder is blowing up electronics in the vehicle, what's the best approach in your expert opinion. I am learning a lot from your videos and appreciate you taking the time to show the rest of us how it's done, keep up the good work.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
When ever I MIG weld or use a stud welder I unhook the negative battery terminal. I was taught that but am not totally sure if it makes a difference. I have forgot a few times but nothing ever go damaged - never - not one problem. So... that being said I try to stay on the safe side and undo the neg term. Jerry
@chrismitchell453 жыл бұрын
Mystery solved! I’d been wondering what a stud welder did. I see one every time I go to either HF or Northern Tool. Fortunately, not a tool I need to buy! What CFH does the air sander pull? Another great video sir!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
The 8" round one is not bad on air - probably the same as a DA sander. The air file uses a bit more but still runs well with a smaller 1hp, 110v, 20-30 gallon compressor.
@chrismitchell45
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody I like the air file but I’m wrapping up my project and hopefully won’t need it. Now I’m off to re watch your hammer and dolly video. The jackasses I bought the Rover from used about three inches of filler to fill in a dent on top of the left wing. It’s made of aluminum….. it took me 5 minutes to tap it mostly straight again. As always thanks for the videos.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismitchell45 Keep me posted on your projects - love to hear the stories. As always thanks for watching and good talking :)
@lschneider61093 жыл бұрын
Do you have a part number or name for the clamping block for the studs or is it diy? Some days my H.F. stud welder works and some days the studs will not stick at all. It may be headed for the recycle bin.
@samuelmcgill-rl3lb3 ай бұрын
that year model chevy truck ,no need to use the sander ,JUST WAIT ANOTHER 15 MINUTES AND THE PAINT WILL FALL OFF .Lol😁
@LakesideAutobody
3 ай бұрын
I think they were experimenting back then with different paints. I think they have the paint thing down now though :)
@arturogotti37902 жыл бұрын
Do you ever use pull rods? Drill the holes and pull the dents out with a pull rod?
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
My dad had some of those and I have used them at times - they definitely come in handy now and then. The only disadvantage is the hole - not that it's really going to hurt anything as it is usually up high but I feel guilty doing it w/o welding it up - and welding it up can be a hassle. If it works for you though - by all means - do it. Jerry
@heathhenderson721710 ай бұрын
New cars tend to have thinner metal. Can you pull dents using a stud welder on 50s and 60s cars? All my dents tend to be in locations where I can’t get a tool or hammer on the back side.
@LakesideAutobody
10 ай бұрын
Very few dents can be accessed from the back that's why almost all dents are pulled. You can use a stud welder, or you can MIG weld fender shims to the panel and pull from them - even small pieces of sheet metal. I have a lot of videos on dent removal with various methods if interested - kzread.info/head/PLOP9eoG14-I_dTwNiWP5XJCitguFJzZEZ
@hunterlutz9582 Жыл бұрын
Love how old school you are what are your thoughts on this method v.s welding copper wave wire with a slide hammer?
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
It's pretty much the same thing only I'm not a big fan of the slide hammer for dents. You really need to pull on the lows while tapping on the high or crowned areas. I think the wave wire along with the pogo or alignment bar would work fine :)
@robertmahaney28543 жыл бұрын
Hello Jerry , great video! Can you tell me the name of that type of vice grip, I want to order a pair. Thank you very much Bob Baltimore Maryland
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Sure - STECK 20085 EZ PULL PLIERS - Thanks for you support and glad you enjoyed the video :)
@johnmartin5153 Жыл бұрын
this was a great help to me thank you. Did you have any issues with spraying the feather fill over the filler?
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
Feather fill was originally made to be sprayed over bare metal and fillers so no there were no issues. Feather fill actually came out before epoxy primers and urethane primers so it was commonly used this way. It was also thinned commonly with lacquer thinner. Some polyester primers require thinning with acetone. I still use thinner w/o issues. Have a good weekend JM :)
@johnmartin5153
Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody that is great news. That will save me tons of time. I also never heard of the pogo before too. That will be a great help to me. I’m doing a down to metal restore on my 1969 Chevy van. It will be my first dtm job My second vehicle I’ve done. I did a 71 super beetle with cheap crap paint, I learned a lot hopefully the van turns out much better. Thanks for the help man
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
@@johnmartin5153 You're welcome John - feel free to ask ?s while working on that van. Let me know how it goes for you :)
@PnwOnTour3 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed 🤟🏼 I have a couple creases like that to address, doesn’t feather fill want acetone as a reducer?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Yes they do say acetone but I've been using lacquer thinner since the 80's with ff - that's what my boss told us to use and it works fine. I'm thinking they may have changed due to environmental reasons - not sure. Both will work fine.
@keithclark4863 жыл бұрын
Do you ever use slapping spoons / files to whack down the eyebrows ?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have but I figure the panel is going to be filled so I just use a hammer (good idea for a video though). I think the slapping spoon is less damaging and meant for metal finishing. Not too much metal finishing goes on in a production body shop like dealerships, etc.
@leonardcrisci72543 жыл бұрын
When you were sanding around the wheel arch is it easier to use a solid block Or something with a little flex
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
There's really no rules on that. I guess you just have to find what works best for you. Most of the folks I worked with used stiff boards on everything - nothing fancy. Everyone used 17" a 9" (sort of rare) or the 4" rubber block - that's it. You might keep an old section of heater hose around for some curved stuff but it would be just as easy to roll up some used sand paper and make do with that. Solid blocks are the key to straightness in my mind. Hope that helps a bit. Jerry
@leonardcrisci7254
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Yes that definitely helps I was just thinking if a panel is curved than a solid block will not conform around the curve
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardcrisci7254 Often times on curves you can use the edge of the boards. I'll do a video specifically on that issue - good subject :)
@leonardcrisci7254
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Gotcha thank you
@stephenwhite54442 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Does this work on a heavier steel body like a 60's delivery truck with a big dent?
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You can also use a come-along - doesn't have to be expensive - like a HF one. Park the van near a tree and pull from the tree or another car/truck. Let me know how it goes for you :)
@stephenwhite5444
2 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thank you! To do a heavier gauge steel would I need a stud welder that has thicker studs? Or put them closer together so I can clamp on to 4 or 5 in a smaller area?
@aldotgomez Жыл бұрын
If you don't tap around the dents would you end up with a high spot
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
Yes. That's sort of why using the slide hammer alone doesn't work really well :)
@Sxvaqe-_-13 күн бұрын
What grit did you use to grind welds off
@LakesideAutobody
13 күн бұрын
Always use 36 or 40 grit fiber resin disks on an air grinder or sander - slow speed to keep heat and sparks down :)
@Sxvaqe-_-
13 күн бұрын
Thanks im about to start on my truck
@Mrgoodguy865 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jerry thanks for your video, just got my stud welder, do I have to disconnect battery to use the stud welder?
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
I do. I'm sure you can get away with it - I have forgotten many times and never had issues :)
@Mrgoodguy865
Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thanks
@DR-xt9ux9 ай бұрын
Is it cheaper to do it this way or buy the whole panel
@LakesideAutobody
9 ай бұрын
It's always cheaper to fix than replace. That is if you can do it yourself. Also, it's good to know that keeping the original panel is sometimes better because the original factory undercoating or primer put on at the factory is better than most shops will do on a replacement panel. Many time replacement panels rust out fast because of lack of undercoating or proper coatings on the back side of the panel :)
@DR-xt9ux
9 ай бұрын
You think the dealership Body shops just replace the panel or is it more time consuming for them to fix it the way you did
@LakesideAutobody
9 ай бұрын
They would probably replace. If it's small dings like hail, they will probably fix. All depends on the shop really.
@chipparker7813 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Got a question though. I thought you had to use self etching primer on the bare metal areas before using a high build primer. Does the feather fill take care of all that in one step?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
One step for feather fill - even though the TDS says you need epoxy primer. We used it in the 80's all the time - no epoxy primer (don't think there was even epoxy primer out back then). One step for lacquer primer and DTM urethane primer too. DTM is direct to metal. You should use epoxy primer first on aluminum though.
@chipparker781
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks a lot. I need to learn more about different types of products. Maybe a good idea for a video?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@chipparker781 You're right - just wrote it down. I'll get to that one soon - it's good to know the truth on all that stuff so you know exactly what to spend your $ on.
@zhengatozzy99043 жыл бұрын
How perfect the bondo work should be? Every single time after I done my bondo work I put my hands on panel and I feel nice and flat. But after paint I still can see the micro low area between bondo and undamaged surface . Painter don’t sand the primer so I think that’s what the problem is? What do you think about this situation?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent ?! It should be close but it will never be perfect until you block sand it and get it perfect through that process. Watch this playlist and you'll be the master at getting panels straight - I promise. If you have any more ?s feel free to ask - Jerry
@zhengatozzy9904
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thank you Jerry 🙏
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Zheng, thanks for the question - I have a blocking primer video coming up and I think I'll address your question in the video - it is a very common ? that many folks are wondering about.
@zhengatozzy9904
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Thank you for your video Jerry . It happens sometimes but it’s good time to learn how to work on primer 😄 I appreciate it!
@bluegrasscrazy73073 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr Jerry I'm new to your channel and totally new to body work and painting, over the past year I've been amassing spray guns installed compressor, I have a 67 mustang I wish to restore and might need advise from time to time if u dont mind. Thx...
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
No problem - ask any ?, any time, any video. I answer ?s/comments once or twice a day. Jerry
@tonywhite97613 жыл бұрын
Does self etching primer work with enamel paint Lakeside? Do I need a primer sealer with the etching primer also ? I'm asking because I welded a door skin grinded and knock welds down and put filler on I didn't put primer on bare metal
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You are fine. You don't need primer or any kind before filler - just freshly ground metal. It is not required no matter what you hear on the internet. What kind of primer are you going to use after you do your filler work?
@tonywhite9761
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody what kind of primer do you suggest?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@tonywhite9761 I use lacquer primer surfacer by Auto Body Master but that's a bit old fashioned - it works fine though. I would find yourself a name brand Urethane Primer Surfacer that's going to be around for a while because once you get used to a brand you stick with it. I've used Auto Body Master urethane primer surfacer and I like that but not sure if you can find it where you live. Go to your nearest, handy auto part store or paint supply store and find a brand you like. They will usually continue carrying that brand and you can always count on getting it there. Sometimes they can answer questions you may have too :)
@Superado20062 жыл бұрын
@lakesideautobody why can't the Feather fill be finish sanded and painted?
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
You can paint over feather fill if you want. I just prefer to sand regular primer when it comes to finish sanding. Feather fill is a little bit harder to sand :)
@Superado2006
2 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody So it's easier to sand the feather fill, then prime, finish sand, then paint... instead of sand then paint? Is does it affect the quality of the paint or something if you skip the other 2 steps?
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
@@Superado2006 It doesn't effect the quality of the paint if you skip the other 2 steps. Since I block sanded with 80 grit, it's just easier to prime with some regular primer - it fills those 80 grit scratches and it is easier to sand. It's not recommended to sand primer with say 120 grit and then try to sand it with something finer to prepare for paint. Best practice is: prime / block / prime / finish sand / paint - that's just the normal process but it's not carved in stone - as long as you've got your primer down to the grit you want - you've succeeded.
@Superado2006
2 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thank you so much for the honest and clear answers. So if I finish sand my filler let's say to 180-220 then prime and sand with 400 I'd be good to paint then right? Thanks in advance! God bless!
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
@@Superado2006 Yes you will be fine doing it like that but it's a harder process. Your body filler (bondo) should be be finished to 80 grit. Your primer surfacer like Feather Fill will be finished 80, 120, or 180 something around there (your choice). Your final priming will be finished with 220-320 (DA) or 400 (wet sand). Then paint. Hope that helps - if not ask again - you're welcome btw - Jerry
@goneplatinumpaintlessdentr31022 жыл бұрын
Jim have you tried Keco hot glue products
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
I have not. Is that what you use for pulling dents?
Those are sweet 🤟🏼 I’m going to have to make one out of a Milwaukee, they are easy on the hands and grip super tight if you haven’t seen them.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@PnwOnTour Sounds like a good plan - I'm sure you could make a good pair. Let me know how it goes for you. Have a good weekend Gmguy - good to hear from you as always :)
@makojuicedaniel9307Ай бұрын
No thanks to using a pogo stick, seems effective but also very dangerous having your face right there, ill settle for a frame machine or slide puller
@LakesideAutobody
Ай бұрын
I've gotten injured many different ways in a body shop but never by the pogo stick. Worst was having my hand over a fender wet sanding with the other hand and a coworker slammed the hood shut - old rigid hood too - like a 77 Monte Carlo or something like that.
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Since used car/new car prices are going bonkers lately, I imagine a lot of people will be keeping their old cars much longer. Learning a lot from all your videos. Thanks.
@MrClarkisgod
3 жыл бұрын
Especially trucks. C10s and OBS trucks are definitely making a big comeback. I have a old Ford step side and I get offer to buy it every time I drive it.
@KevinKimmich44024
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrClarkisgod I have a 1997 F250--it's a beater though that I paid $1500 for and use for errands after fixing it up a little. I see the nice ones on craigslist and they just keep getting more and more pricey.
Hi Jerry, I hope you're having a great summer. I don't have a stud welder yet, so I've been using finish nails as studs, tacking them with my mig welder. Its not glamorous, but I thought I would share the idea with everyone; it works well. Thanks for another great video, stay cool my friend!
@lschneider6109
3 жыл бұрын
Is it really wrong if it works!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You too Erich - sorry about the late reply - sometimes I don't get alerts on comments and end up missing them :)
Back in 1976 I was living in Japan and had the occasion to visit one of their auto body shops. It was the first time I ever saw a stud welder. Instead of using a pogo stick to pull the dents they had a small slide hammer designed to grip the studs, then repeatedly working from one stud to the other, would methodically work out the dents. When done, almost no filler was needed. It was impressive.
Gotta love a guy who uses all the right safety equipment too.
@makojuicedaniel9307
Ай бұрын
except a face shield while pulling right next to his face.
I did enjoy your demonstration of working with a stud welder and pogo stick. 👍 Obviously a lot better control than a slide hammer. Thanks for the lesson. Have a great weekend Jerry!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - glad you enjoyed it. You have a good weekend too :)
What's surprising besides the awesome job Jerry did on the body work is that there's a GMT 400 truck this age in Michigan that the bedside isn't completely rotted out on.
Come out realy nice great job and have a nice weekend stay sfe
You make it look to easy Jerry...Great work!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks UPK - always a pleasure hearing from you :)
Thanks for another great video Jerry. Your tips and technique are very valuable. You do a terrific job of explaining how it is done.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bluesman - I appreciate the support - always good to hear from you :)
Excellent video! Thanks for taking the time to explain the technique as well as show it.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. You've got a nice channel - Jerry
Lot of info on this video. 👍 After watching your videos on bodylines several times I was able to complete a complex(for me) compound bodyline repair earlier this year. Not on the first try! But I kept going back and working until only a sharp eye could ever tell it was crunched before. Once it was painted, I was very content the results. Stud welder is on my list for the coming year as I have more projects lined up for next spring/summer/fall.
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
That is just great to hear. It's good that you stuck with it. Each time you do it - you get better and better. Thanks for the story Scott :)
You're the man Jerry! Thanks for another great video.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and you're welcome. Good to hear from you as always :)
Great job as always. Love the pogo stick. Such a great system
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it PSG - have a great week :)
That pogo stick looks a lot more controllable than a slide hammer. 👍
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're right - pull from almost any angle with light or heavy pressure.
@PnwOnTour
3 жыл бұрын
🛻 🦯🚶♂️💥
Thanks from Down under. Love some of your terms, Bondo Hog , we just call it bog. So would be Bog Hog😅 1% tool 20% touch 20% sound 20% vision Balance = Skill David
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome from Michigan - the tool does have a cool sound for sure. Thanks for watching David :)
Nice job thanks for teaching us personally I really appreciate it god bless you always
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Carlos - God bless you too. Have a good week :)
Muy bien trabajo
Great video Jerry! Well explained with all the details of how-to shown.
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ernest - enjoy the rest of the week :)
Nice work. I always learn something from watching your videos. Thanks!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome - thanks for the support :)
I need this vice grip flat end puller. I was able to get some deep dents out with my pogo puller yesterday,
Perfect! Thanks so much for a great, straightforward demo!
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome RC :)
👍🏻Thanks for another great video. You sure make it look easy! The only problem I found with ordering the feather fill is when you get the can it’s in rough shape.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right! That's funny. Mine was all dented up too. Crazy.... Have a good weekend Michael.
Once again amazing tutorial 👍
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Aly Jan - have a good weekend :)
I noticed you have glasses or safety glasses on an I too wear glasses now but here’s a tip for you again Sometimes I work on two or three at a time so I put first coat on with blue or red cream hardner and then the other one on second coat for quicker low to high spots and if I do used a third it’s usually for the fact I’m trying not to use two part putty I mix both half and half for a gray color on my final sanding I love the black guide coat to look for scratches and pinholes also that was a neat ideal with 2x4 to set poko stick on
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scoot and thanks for the tips. I found these for my safety glasses - they are magnified lenses like reading glasses. www.safetyglassesusa.com/pyramex-emerge-safety-glasses-translucent-gray-frame-clear-full-magnifying-lens/
I was kinda hoping you'd leave the sign and just clear coat it. Another great video....thanks! Almost forgot, thanks for listing the tools and materials.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
That would be cool actually - good idea for a video :)
Great video!
watching you spray, you sir are a machine.
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend - I appreciate the kind comments :)
As always, another great video.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marty - have a good weekend :)
Another great video Jerry. I wish we lived closer. We could play guitar and work on cars... 😂😂 keep the videos coming. Great info as always. I have learned a lot from you.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
That would be great Bob. Always cool to sit down and jam with someone else. I'm glad to hear you're learning a lot - love it. Have a great week my friend :)
You do nice work. Talented!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support Daddy Crab. Cool name BTW :)
@DaddyyCrab
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody no problem sir. Thank you!
Great video
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
forget the question on the clamping block as I've looked much closer and see what it is. Was in the sun too much today, ha!
Very good Jerry! Your videos are always very helpful no matter the subject! I really appreciate you taking the time to film your work while adding tips and instruction. Was wondering at 16:00, will the front edges of the bed be sanded with just a small block sander?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Yes - that does look a bit rough. The whole area will now be block sanded nice and straight (I'll make a video on that - real detailed). It will be primed again, finish sanded with 240-320 (DA) your choice of grit. Then finally painted. Glad you like the content - good to hear from you Ethan - have a good weekend :)
I’d just fix each individual dent then lay the primer thick. Screw working 2 pounds of filler
Hi, great video but I've got to point out one issue. You reduce polyester spray filler (Feather Fill or any of the others) with Acetone and not Lacquer Thinner. Other than that this was really a good issue.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's the boss made us use lacquer thinner - I believe the can said thinner too but not sure. I'll have to research that. I believe it has something to do with environmental issues that it was changed. Might be wrong though. Thanks for the comment Sataman - always a pleasure to hear from you - have a good week :)
Suprised there was that much metal in that wheel well..
I don't see this question addressed to much on use of stud guns or using welding tabs so my question is: If using a stud gun like that( which I just recently purchased) what is the procedure for the car battery and or the computer or pcm for newer cars/trucks? Is the voltage more in the area of the stud gun and not a concern for the electronics? I slide into a concrete bridge barrier on an over pass turn on a slick evening with my 2011 durango and the rear wheel arch inside the door is pushed in a bit, it's not thin metal and wonder what the best solution would be for pulling it out. I have a dent pulling kit with slide hammer/ stud gun or a welder to weld some tabs on the areas, my concern with the welder is blowing up electronics in the vehicle, what's the best approach in your expert opinion. I am learning a lot from your videos and appreciate you taking the time to show the rest of us how it's done, keep up the good work.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
When ever I MIG weld or use a stud welder I unhook the negative battery terminal. I was taught that but am not totally sure if it makes a difference. I have forgot a few times but nothing ever go damaged - never - not one problem. So... that being said I try to stay on the safe side and undo the neg term. Jerry
Mystery solved! I’d been wondering what a stud welder did. I see one every time I go to either HF or Northern Tool. Fortunately, not a tool I need to buy! What CFH does the air sander pull? Another great video sir!
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
The 8" round one is not bad on air - probably the same as a DA sander. The air file uses a bit more but still runs well with a smaller 1hp, 110v, 20-30 gallon compressor.
@chrismitchell45
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody I like the air file but I’m wrapping up my project and hopefully won’t need it. Now I’m off to re watch your hammer and dolly video. The jackasses I bought the Rover from used about three inches of filler to fill in a dent on top of the left wing. It’s made of aluminum….. it took me 5 minutes to tap it mostly straight again. As always thanks for the videos.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismitchell45 Keep me posted on your projects - love to hear the stories. As always thanks for watching and good talking :)
Do you have a part number or name for the clamping block for the studs or is it diy? Some days my H.F. stud welder works and some days the studs will not stick at all. It may be headed for the recycle bin.
that year model chevy truck ,no need to use the sander ,JUST WAIT ANOTHER 15 MINUTES AND THE PAINT WILL FALL OFF .Lol😁
@LakesideAutobody
3 ай бұрын
I think they were experimenting back then with different paints. I think they have the paint thing down now though :)
Do you ever use pull rods? Drill the holes and pull the dents out with a pull rod?
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
My dad had some of those and I have used them at times - they definitely come in handy now and then. The only disadvantage is the hole - not that it's really going to hurt anything as it is usually up high but I feel guilty doing it w/o welding it up - and welding it up can be a hassle. If it works for you though - by all means - do it. Jerry
New cars tend to have thinner metal. Can you pull dents using a stud welder on 50s and 60s cars? All my dents tend to be in locations where I can’t get a tool or hammer on the back side.
@LakesideAutobody
10 ай бұрын
Very few dents can be accessed from the back that's why almost all dents are pulled. You can use a stud welder, or you can MIG weld fender shims to the panel and pull from them - even small pieces of sheet metal. I have a lot of videos on dent removal with various methods if interested - kzread.info/head/PLOP9eoG14-I_dTwNiWP5XJCitguFJzZEZ
Love how old school you are what are your thoughts on this method v.s welding copper wave wire with a slide hammer?
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
It's pretty much the same thing only I'm not a big fan of the slide hammer for dents. You really need to pull on the lows while tapping on the high or crowned areas. I think the wave wire along with the pogo or alignment bar would work fine :)
Hello Jerry , great video! Can you tell me the name of that type of vice grip, I want to order a pair. Thank you very much Bob Baltimore Maryland
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Sure - STECK 20085 EZ PULL PLIERS - Thanks for you support and glad you enjoyed the video :)
this was a great help to me thank you. Did you have any issues with spraying the feather fill over the filler?
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
Feather fill was originally made to be sprayed over bare metal and fillers so no there were no issues. Feather fill actually came out before epoxy primers and urethane primers so it was commonly used this way. It was also thinned commonly with lacquer thinner. Some polyester primers require thinning with acetone. I still use thinner w/o issues. Have a good weekend JM :)
@johnmartin5153
Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody that is great news. That will save me tons of time. I also never heard of the pogo before too. That will be a great help to me. I’m doing a down to metal restore on my 1969 Chevy van. It will be my first dtm job My second vehicle I’ve done. I did a 71 super beetle with cheap crap paint, I learned a lot hopefully the van turns out much better. Thanks for the help man
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
@@johnmartin5153 You're welcome John - feel free to ask ?s while working on that van. Let me know how it goes for you :)
Just what I needed 🤟🏼 I have a couple creases like that to address, doesn’t feather fill want acetone as a reducer?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Yes they do say acetone but I've been using lacquer thinner since the 80's with ff - that's what my boss told us to use and it works fine. I'm thinking they may have changed due to environmental reasons - not sure. Both will work fine.
Do you ever use slapping spoons / files to whack down the eyebrows ?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have but I figure the panel is going to be filled so I just use a hammer (good idea for a video though). I think the slapping spoon is less damaging and meant for metal finishing. Not too much metal finishing goes on in a production body shop like dealerships, etc.
When you were sanding around the wheel arch is it easier to use a solid block Or something with a little flex
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
There's really no rules on that. I guess you just have to find what works best for you. Most of the folks I worked with used stiff boards on everything - nothing fancy. Everyone used 17" a 9" (sort of rare) or the 4" rubber block - that's it. You might keep an old section of heater hose around for some curved stuff but it would be just as easy to roll up some used sand paper and make do with that. Solid blocks are the key to straightness in my mind. Hope that helps a bit. Jerry
@leonardcrisci7254
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Yes that definitely helps I was just thinking if a panel is curved than a solid block will not conform around the curve
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardcrisci7254 Often times on curves you can use the edge of the boards. I'll do a video specifically on that issue - good subject :)
@leonardcrisci7254
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Gotcha thank you
Awesome video! Does this work on a heavier steel body like a 60's delivery truck with a big dent?
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You can also use a come-along - doesn't have to be expensive - like a HF one. Park the van near a tree and pull from the tree or another car/truck. Let me know how it goes for you :)
@stephenwhite5444
2 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thank you! To do a heavier gauge steel would I need a stud welder that has thicker studs? Or put them closer together so I can clamp on to 4 or 5 in a smaller area?
If you don't tap around the dents would you end up with a high spot
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
Yes. That's sort of why using the slide hammer alone doesn't work really well :)
What grit did you use to grind welds off
@LakesideAutobody
13 күн бұрын
Always use 36 or 40 grit fiber resin disks on an air grinder or sander - slow speed to keep heat and sparks down :)
@Sxvaqe-_-
13 күн бұрын
Thanks im about to start on my truck
Hi Jerry thanks for your video, just got my stud welder, do I have to disconnect battery to use the stud welder?
@LakesideAutobody
Жыл бұрын
I do. I'm sure you can get away with it - I have forgotten many times and never had issues :)
@Mrgoodguy865
Жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thanks
Is it cheaper to do it this way or buy the whole panel
@LakesideAutobody
9 ай бұрын
It's always cheaper to fix than replace. That is if you can do it yourself. Also, it's good to know that keeping the original panel is sometimes better because the original factory undercoating or primer put on at the factory is better than most shops will do on a replacement panel. Many time replacement panels rust out fast because of lack of undercoating or proper coatings on the back side of the panel :)
@DR-xt9ux
9 ай бұрын
You think the dealership Body shops just replace the panel or is it more time consuming for them to fix it the way you did
@LakesideAutobody
9 ай бұрын
They would probably replace. If it's small dings like hail, they will probably fix. All depends on the shop really.
Awesome video. Got a question though. I thought you had to use self etching primer on the bare metal areas before using a high build primer. Does the feather fill take care of all that in one step?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
One step for feather fill - even though the TDS says you need epoxy primer. We used it in the 80's all the time - no epoxy primer (don't think there was even epoxy primer out back then). One step for lacquer primer and DTM urethane primer too. DTM is direct to metal. You should use epoxy primer first on aluminum though.
@chipparker781
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks a lot. I need to learn more about different types of products. Maybe a good idea for a video?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@chipparker781 You're right - just wrote it down. I'll get to that one soon - it's good to know the truth on all that stuff so you know exactly what to spend your $ on.
How perfect the bondo work should be? Every single time after I done my bondo work I put my hands on panel and I feel nice and flat. But after paint I still can see the micro low area between bondo and undamaged surface . Painter don’t sand the primer so I think that’s what the problem is? What do you think about this situation?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent ?! It should be close but it will never be perfect until you block sand it and get it perfect through that process. Watch this playlist and you'll be the master at getting panels straight - I promise. If you have any more ?s feel free to ask - Jerry
@zhengatozzy9904
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thank you Jerry 🙏
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Zheng, thanks for the question - I have a blocking primer video coming up and I think I'll address your question in the video - it is a very common ? that many folks are wondering about.
@zhengatozzy9904
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody Thank you for your video Jerry . It happens sometimes but it’s good time to learn how to work on primer 😄 I appreciate it!
Hi Mr Jerry I'm new to your channel and totally new to body work and painting, over the past year I've been amassing spray guns installed compressor, I have a 67 mustang I wish to restore and might need advise from time to time if u dont mind. Thx...
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
No problem - ask any ?, any time, any video. I answer ?s/comments once or twice a day. Jerry
Does self etching primer work with enamel paint Lakeside? Do I need a primer sealer with the etching primer also ? I'm asking because I welded a door skin grinded and knock welds down and put filler on I didn't put primer on bare metal
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
You are fine. You don't need primer or any kind before filler - just freshly ground metal. It is not required no matter what you hear on the internet. What kind of primer are you going to use after you do your filler work?
@tonywhite9761
3 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody what kind of primer do you suggest?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@tonywhite9761 I use lacquer primer surfacer by Auto Body Master but that's a bit old fashioned - it works fine though. I would find yourself a name brand Urethane Primer Surfacer that's going to be around for a while because once you get used to a brand you stick with it. I've used Auto Body Master urethane primer surfacer and I like that but not sure if you can find it where you live. Go to your nearest, handy auto part store or paint supply store and find a brand you like. They will usually continue carrying that brand and you can always count on getting it there. Sometimes they can answer questions you may have too :)
@lakesideautobody why can't the Feather fill be finish sanded and painted?
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
You can paint over feather fill if you want. I just prefer to sand regular primer when it comes to finish sanding. Feather fill is a little bit harder to sand :)
@Superado2006
2 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody So it's easier to sand the feather fill, then prime, finish sand, then paint... instead of sand then paint? Is does it affect the quality of the paint or something if you skip the other 2 steps?
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
@@Superado2006 It doesn't effect the quality of the paint if you skip the other 2 steps. Since I block sanded with 80 grit, it's just easier to prime with some regular primer - it fills those 80 grit scratches and it is easier to sand. It's not recommended to sand primer with say 120 grit and then try to sand it with something finer to prepare for paint. Best practice is: prime / block / prime / finish sand / paint - that's just the normal process but it's not carved in stone - as long as you've got your primer down to the grit you want - you've succeeded.
@Superado2006
2 жыл бұрын
@@LakesideAutobody thank you so much for the honest and clear answers. So if I finish sand my filler let's say to 180-220 then prime and sand with 400 I'd be good to paint then right? Thanks in advance! God bless!
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
@@Superado2006 Yes you will be fine doing it like that but it's a harder process. Your body filler (bondo) should be be finished to 80 grit. Your primer surfacer like Feather Fill will be finished 80, 120, or 180 something around there (your choice). Your final priming will be finished with 220-320 (DA) or 400 (wet sand). Then paint. Hope that helps - if not ask again - you're welcome btw - Jerry
Jim have you tried Keco hot glue products
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
I have not. Is that what you use for pulling dents?
@goneplatinumpaintlessdentr3102
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I used different glue and tabs
@LakesideAutobody
2 жыл бұрын
@@goneplatinumpaintlessdentr3102 OK thanks :)
We’re did you get the pliers?
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
www.amazon.com/Steck-Manufacturing-20085-Pull-Plier/dp/B0015DQH44
@PnwOnTour
3 жыл бұрын
Those are sweet 🤟🏼 I’m going to have to make one out of a Milwaukee, they are easy on the hands and grip super tight if you haven’t seen them.
@LakesideAutobody
3 жыл бұрын
@@PnwOnTour Sounds like a good plan - I'm sure you could make a good pair. Let me know how it goes for you. Have a good weekend Gmguy - good to hear from you as always :)
No thanks to using a pogo stick, seems effective but also very dangerous having your face right there, ill settle for a frame machine or slide puller
@LakesideAutobody
Ай бұрын
I've gotten injured many different ways in a body shop but never by the pogo stick. Worst was having my hand over a fender wet sanding with the other hand and a coworker slammed the hood shut - old rigid hood too - like a 77 Monte Carlo or something like that.