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@Rellik52o

2 жыл бұрын

Quick question did you play for a few hours with no issues at all without a heat sync???

@Rellik52o

2 жыл бұрын

I returned my Samsung 980 pro because it needed a firmware update and I have no way to update it and I got the Western digital sn850 because it performs close to it specs out the box and the Samsung 980 pro does not

@phildavis8732

2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I went with FireCuda 530. Read is a touch better but write a lot better. But I'm a co sole hoarder so the endurance on Seagate is over double wd and Sam. If I return to ps5 in 15 years. Seagates endurance is insane. Now worries. Again great vid. Cover must be for protection against dust.

@BruceRichwineJr

2 жыл бұрын

How does running the cover off the SSD bay affect the rest of the system? I hear so much about how negative pressure effects how the internal components are cooled. If the DRAM is hotter because of the cover being off I think I would rather have a couple degree warmer on the SSD than have the DRAM even warmer than it already is.

It's official. U are PS5 Busters, now! 💯

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

We will do more busting stuff :)

@JimCKD

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters I trust u! 😁

Another insane video, this channel is amazing.

@HardwareBustersGR

2 жыл бұрын

More to come!

Has anyone ever tested the rest of the ps5 module temperatures with the cover off? I'm thinking there's a chance that leaving the cover off may lower the air pressure that flows through the rest of the system. I really wish Sony wish Sony was more interactive and involved with the community about their machine.

@XxGAMERxXPS3

2 жыл бұрын

It should not disturb the temperature. But the air flow I dont know. There is test done on youtube where the temperature was lower with both plates of and one plate of.

I love your in-depth testing, keep the great work up!

Have you tried connecting the SSD with your thermocouples installed to a PC and checking how close your thermocouple measurement is to the internal monitoring temperature you can get from the SSD chipset?

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Might do it in the future.

There is no way you aren't Bryan Intihar's secret older brother (former EGM videogame magazine editor and current Insomniac Spiderman PS4 creative director). The resemblance is uncanny.

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know him, sorry :) But will look into this he he

Flash runs better hotter, its only the controller that needs cooling I'm running my 2Tb firecuda 530 with built in h/sink, with cover no issues at all(I have PS5 Launch model)

@brunogm

2 жыл бұрын

hotter is 40 to 55C

@Exalted-Mountain

2 жыл бұрын

Where did you even get that? It was impossible to find them basically last month i had to settle for the 2tb sn850 with heatsink.

@mobbman1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Exalted-Mountain the Firecuda is readily availabe right now from many places. The biggest issue is the problem with the ssd and its funtions on storage.

Great video interesting results. Sony recommend the cover to be fitted maybe it’s just for dust protection rather than cooling improvements.

@tiagoj8020

2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense

@mehdidavazdahemami1774

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely for dust protection. The SSD slot is right next to the fan

My msi spatium m480 1tb keeps sliding down inside and out the back of the warship heatsink when trying to install into the ps5 port.. i don’t t get it, I have all screws on the sides tightened and yet it just slides down preventing me to make connection .. anyone experienced this

What about putting thermal pads on the SSD Heatsink so they make contact with the metal cover? Am thinking of trying that since the metal cover has a lot of airflow going over it and would like it there to protect from dust.

@HardwareBusters

Жыл бұрын

it could help

Its pretty strange honestly. Sony recommends an Heatsink but also that you should use the Cover (so the Airflow will remain i assume). But since you tested it and it seems overall without the Cover its like… 4 Degrees better… I wonder why. Could it be that the Airflow was disturbed because of the Wires and it did hurt the Airflow because of that? Meaning that without the Cover there is overall more or better Airflow? Things is that Sony also Recommends Heatsinks that dont exceeds a given Hight (so you can still put the Cover back on. But the Thing is… if the Cover hurts the Temperature anyways… you might go with an larger HS as well (as long as you dont go overboard and so the white Panel dosent fit anymore at all. Maybe they recommend the Hight and Cover because otherwise it melts the white Panel…? Just some Thoughts. Its just strange to me that the Temps are actually better without the Cover when it shouldnt be. Edit. Then again on PCs Temps get better without the Sidepanel as well but it hurts other Things. So maybe it does make more Sense than i thought at first.

@callmechaf1165

2 жыл бұрын

As you stated at the end and I have seen others talk about, I think the cover is more or less to keep the airflow for the entirety of the system consistent, and not for the NVMe. Yes you may get those few degrees better, but that can also take away airflow from your system increasing its temp instead.

100% sure the cover is just an RF shield for the console to meet EMI radiation/interference standards, just look at the grounding pads.

I managed to find an NVMe M.2 on sale and even came with a free gift (RGB mousepad).I got the 2TB version of the PNY XLR8 CS3040 for 239$ and it was even slightly above Sony's Recommended specifications.Totally loving it.Satisfying storage size at a bargain.

@XxGAMERxXPS3

2 жыл бұрын

Woah I am impressed by SSD 1800TBW compared too my SN850 (1TB) 600TBW. I guess its down to the NAND used by SN850.

@aceoseven2073

2 жыл бұрын

A PNY?? Whoa! Definitely not a good choice. Those ssd's have too many problems my friend. No one who has owned one, has never lasted them a month! U made a purchase based on solely pricing, which is not how you suppose to shop, especially when it comes to tech. Bad, bad choice. Good luck tho...because either your PS5 will fail or both. *man I'm so nervous for you! 😬❗

Be sure to check and update Samsung 980 Pro's firmware as some of them are bricking themselves now because of it. Better safe than sorry

Great video keep going!

I got the 1TB Sab Rocket 4 Plus with the brand new heat sink, already arrived early 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

Awesome analysis..

I think there might be a problem with removing the cover on the SSD bay: The higher pressure air will escape through the hole! It will cool the SSD, but also slightly reduce the flow through the main heatsink, and the SSD air will be fed right back into the fan.

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Given the very low speed of the fan, there won't be any issues. Normally, if PS5 detects higher temps it will increase fan speed. Also from the moment, you have an M.2 installed, airflow is decreased in this compartment, anyway.

@ShadiFagihi

2 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I was thinking, removing the SSD cover will limit the air flow to the rest of the PS5 but adk. We need internal thermal test.

@daijoubu4529

2 жыл бұрын

If you're that worried, just plug the 2 little holes lol

Hi great video. What heatsink did you use?

@joshuahopping7013

2 жыл бұрын

Just got the brand new heat sink that is releasing Oct 19th For Sab Rocket 4 Plus, amazing, came yesterday and early 🙌🏻 thing runs smoooooth and very recommended

The cover is for dust protection

Καλησπέρα θα ήθελα να ρωτήσω κάτι έχω πάρει μια SSD firecuda το ps5 να βάλω το κάλυμμα που έχει είδη η κονσόλα;;;;η να το αφαιρέσω μήπως έχει λιγότερη θερμοκρασία;;;

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Το κάλυμα της κονσόλας μπορείς να το αφαιρέσεις ναι, για καλύτερες θερμοκρασίες.

@user-vj3yd7bp8y

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters Και μια τελευταία ερώτηση ....τι γνώμη έχεις για την αγορά του SSD firecuda 530;;;

another great content , thank you aris

Good video. Sabrent has a heatsink For ssd that has the shape of the ssd Cover of the ps5, made it for ps5 use. If you want to check it.

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Will ask them for a sample to check this out, thanks!

@DevoutSoldierYT

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters I would like to see this video as well.

@DevoutSoldierYT

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters hardware busters. Check out the Sabrent video they have made first. I would highly recommend watching their "test heat data results" video. Put it to the test.

@brunogm

2 жыл бұрын

@@DevoutSoldierYT Link for those interested kzread.info/dash/bejne/mZdro5mgfc_HdqQ.html

@OlderRockRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Better check out the Elecgear Heatsink. It's better than Sabrent.

Good video as always Aris. The PS5 supports PCI4 NVME's ??? Be safe, stay cool, bye.

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you George!

I understand that by leaving the cover off the ps5 ssd slot the ssd Is cooler. However,I'd think that other components inside the ps5 itself would start to overheat due to the air flow system sony uses being altered ( by leaving the cover off) So for that reason I put it back on after ssd installation. Each to his own though.

@Brocky05

2 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but the two notches sony say are designed to aid with cooling with the cover on appear to be where the temp sensor cables are being run through. So with those not blocked by cables it may bring the "with cover" temps even closer.

What about APU/memory temps? Removing cover might affect the APU/memory air flow.

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Don't think so, because there is already the NVMe there which blocks airflow eitherway.

@noonaanee

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters is there any chance you would test the temperatures of the apu and memory with and without the ssd cover ???, That would be much appreciated

I like Drum & Bass too lol. What songs were those that you used in the video?

@HardwareBusters

Жыл бұрын

to be frank, I don't even remember now :(

Great video!! what was the room temperature?

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

23C

@vii-cosmo525

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters In US Texas definitely needs heatsink, room temperatures play big role on how hot it gets. thank for the replay!

Great job Big like

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Big thanks

I drilled holes on my custom plates that I bought on amazon as to expose the fan. But I am planning on drilling a big circle hole altogether, on both sides of the plates, then put a mesh. This is while I wait to get my Dbrand Gen 2 plates. Is having the fan exposed help more on the cooling of the PS5?

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

It does, yes.

Superb video !!!

Efxaristo megale. Very good.

Interesting results, Sony probably recommends the cover on to protect from dust. The temperatures with or without the cover on is measurable, but all within specs of the SSD manufacturer. For me though, I'm taking that cover off now! Thanks Ari

@MrMoviePhoneEx

2 жыл бұрын

Sony recommends the cover for airflow in the total system not just the drive - this test isn't looking at the bigger picture and it would be a mistake to remove the cover. Did you notice how specific in the internal layout is? It's all designed to channel air for optimal cooling and performance. Also why Sabrent's heatsink is so interesting, it'll provide additional passive cooling to the m.2 while actually increasing system airflow by fully integrating and improving on the original's design.

@XxGAMERxXPS3

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMoviePhoneEx Well what I did was remove plate, and put tape around open areas so M.2 is only exposed, So air will flow through heatsink of m.2 and in to the fan. Also for people worrying about airflow it does not matter. GN did test where both panels of PS5 where of the temps where actually lower by 2-5c lower.

@MrMoviePhoneEx

2 жыл бұрын

@@XxGAMERxXPS3 interesting hack with tape! As for the air flow design, I imagine we won’t be seeing any good data for at least another year or so, as I wouldn’t expect the extra heat to cause any issues until there’s other wear and tear in the system. My point was not that it was a big deal, but it is altering the intended design so that could cause issues down the line. Most users may not even stress their systems enough for it to ever come into play, but if you’ve ever worked at a GameStop you’d know that’s not the case for everyone ;)

@XxGAMERxXPS3

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMoviePhoneEx Using thermal probe attached to the heatsink of my PS5 11xx version the only game that stressed my system was Metro Exodus it reaches 63c around heatsink. So system APU is around 70-80c is my guess. Playing gran turismo Sport the temp of heatsink is actually 40c so the APU is probably around 50-60c. (I am not sure if this is accurate as the difference is so big) This is just rough estimate and probably not that accurate. I placed probe as close as possible to the APU. PS5 does run hot and I am sure Sony will release update to ramp the fan up later on, As more data is collected.

@aceoseven2073

2 жыл бұрын

@Soap A that would be a very big mistake. Do NOT remove the metal cover even if you have a heatsink on your ssd. You will create a negative vacuum that is counterintuitive to the functionality of how the PS5 and how it distributes the airflow to the rest of the GPU and CPU components! I would hate to hear you burned out your PS5 and your expensive ssd my friend. Don't take my word for it, listen to Mark Cerny, the man who created and engineered the PS5. If he says leave the metal cover on with the heatsink attached to the ssd for maximum cooling then that's just what you need to do. Just saying....✌❗

Remets la plaque, car c’est une recommandation selon les instructions de Sony. Il n y a pas d’explication officiel sur l’influence de la plaque à propos du flux d’air ou de la dissipation thermique, mais cela protège contre contre l’accumulation de poussière et ça t’évitera de la perdre.😊

Nice new intro :)

love the music! Can you give artist?

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Our video editor will reply to this :)

@EgwEimai

2 жыл бұрын

Greetings, i am the new editor .1. NEOH FT. TITO JOKER - Los Extraterrestres (Original Mix), 2. Eastcolors - Shadows 3. Emperor_Phamel_cat there are free to use tracks you can find easy out there!

@justinharrison9363

2 жыл бұрын

@@EgwEimai awesome. Thank you

again you surprise us with another professional vid, appreciate you going out of your way to make this in English, thanks!

Can you make a video with internal temperature of the xbox series x and xbox series s? I have the "old" PS5 and Xbox Series X and would like to know how is the internal temperature of the Series X. I saw the video of the old and new PS5 temp comparison and thanks to it I know how hot can my PS5 be internally. Also you got a subscriber. 😁

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome! If/when I find one of the newer Xbox consoles sure!

Εξαιρετική παρουσίαση!

I was wondering about this, thanks! And since I don't own a PS5 yet, I'm off to get a heatsink for my laptop's M2. 😋

You should put on a show like the mythbusters series! 😁😁

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

We prepare something similar!

@TheRayleigh94

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters glad to hear it..

πολύ καλή δουλειά,ωραίος.

@HardwareBustersGR

2 жыл бұрын

Σε ευχαριστώ πατριώτη!

hello brother- the SSD i put in gigabyte 7000 doesnt get shown anymore up on my PS5- it was working but had restarts all the time. What can i do ?

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Try to remove it and install it again. If this doesn't work, install it on a PC system and check it there, if it works properly. If not, RMA.

@RandomVideos-hm3kg

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters done this 3 times no joy worked 2 days now patato

Thanks for the vid. Really enjoy this stuff

Another cover test kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4mdzpWnqK3Ke6w.html the probe passing trhoug the plastic fin is a good ideia, but one ahs to take care of input air pressure

Very informative.

First day with my sn850 2tb without heatsink the drive overheated twice just transferring games …ended up removing it till the heatsink came in so not sure how ur able to run tests without heatsink and get these temps

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

I used a 1 TB SSD, which I am sure makes a difference. Also check your ambient temp.

Another valuable video. Thanks.

How hot was the machine running at with or without cover

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

All this info is in the video somewhere. Sorry I cannot remember that now.

it appears you have massive temp headroom regardless of what you decide to do. so the ultimate choice imo is to pick a quality product with a solid reputation for long life cycle of rewriting. remember we are talking about gamers. chances are they will be hammering the drive with the rewrite cycle.

So Heatsink then , Good job guys as usual¡¡¡

How long was the game session used to test the heat output !

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

There is no game session, we moved about 245GB of data to put the SSDs to the max stress

That is interesting, thanks for the information!

So do you actually need a heat sink that badly

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Also depends on the SSD but yes you need one for most of them

Great, thank you !!!!

Fantastic KZread video

God I just all these PS5 tech related videos 😍

Nice ! 👏 So for the best Temp use a large Heatsink & leave the door cover off.

@aceoseven2073

2 жыл бұрын

U realize that there were other tests that were not done?! U can't pull away from a video that was not complete nor throughly tested. Plz, for the love of your PS5 and expensive ssd, do NOT act on this biased analysis. But don't take my word for it. Search Mark Cerny videos or interviews where he goes in depth about the PS5 he created and engineered. NO ONE knows better than he!

Although i'm not interested for console gaming , this was an interesting analysis !! Nice video overall , and its new technical layout is good as well.

Do you have any plans in testing anything from Xbox Series X? Or it's just not that interesting?

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

It is interesting but I need to find a sample first

Your 980pro results are a little weird. In my case I get 6535mb/s on the read test. Surprisingly yours is quite a bit below that.

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Amd ran this test multiple times with similar results every time

Was waiting for someone to do this! There is minimal airflow in that little compartment so leaving the cover on seems like a bad idea.

@aceoseven2073

2 жыл бұрын

So why do you think the metal cover and the airflow vents on the ssd slot were made then if you think these important properties are useless??

Absolutely take the cover off. How else will the heat escape?. Remember Sony Don’t care about third party products. Its does no harm in taking the cover off they say dust may be an issue, so just hoover it every month like me

Personally I would recommend to use the saberent PS5 heatsink since it will utilize the negative presser of the ssd bay but also make the cover act as a heatsink for the ssd This is probably the best solution that is currently available

@OlderRockRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Elecgear is king. Not Sabrent.

@Disk-Etiquette

2 жыл бұрын

@@OlderRockRocks I have the Elecgear heatsink for my PS5 and it is the best heatsink specifically made for the PS5 on the market right now

@DjRavix

2 жыл бұрын

@@OlderRockRocks at the time I posted this Saberent was the only one who made these “cover-style” Heatsinks for the PS5 At the moment the one from PNY is interesting since it has also got internal fins and isn’t just a aluminium block The Elecgear is also interesting but might hinder the negative presser of the ps5’s SSD bay (since the fins are over the openings on the bay) But whatever the one is that anybody prefers this type of heatsink is going to be the best solution for cooling the SSD that one would place in there ps5 We might get back into the argument of cutting the thermal pad to size so it would only connect to the controller (since the nand preforms better when it’s hotter)

@wavez3

2 жыл бұрын

Im using the Jeyi Eagle heatsink

So sir please say me which ps5 is best for me ok New one or old one ok sir and one more thing sir Please say true because now I am buying a ps5 so sir say me which ps5 is best w one or old one and sir I want DISC one ok please reply me ok

@marty8370

2 жыл бұрын

Ther is no difference, just buy what you can get

@Badcompany2PS5

2 жыл бұрын

Same question on every fucking video. It's bot I think

@sprintingsnail9492

2 жыл бұрын

There is no significant difference.

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

thought I told you last time you asked :) Get the new one.

There are plenty other videos out there that counter these results! Just buy a heatsink that does both like Sabrant heatsink for PS5!!!

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Ι have already made a video about this heatsink and indeed it does a very good job.

Does removing the SSD cover effect other temps of the console?

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Haven't checked this but I don't see any reason for this to happen.

@RoaringPhilosopher

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardwareBusters It seems like a lot people here in the comments believes theres a reason to test this. I really hope you end up doing this.

@aceoseven2073

2 жыл бұрын

Oh it does. Significantly!

@EckoTheFox1

2 жыл бұрын

@@aceoseven2073 positively or negatively?

@aceoseven2073

2 жыл бұрын

@@EckoTheFox1 That's a negative chief.

Γεια σας φίλοι μου! Θα ήθελα να σας συγχαρώ για το κανάλι. Μπορείτε να είστε σίγουροι ότι έχετε ήδη αποκτήσει +1 συνδρομητή. Μεγάλη αγκαλιά από τη Βραζιλία!

@HardwareBusters

Жыл бұрын

Να σε καλα!!!! Που βρέθηκες τόσο μακρυά!!!

Busted. ???

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. Having a heatsink installed is good for temps, but you can also do without one, if you remove the SSD cover.

👍👍👍👍

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Is he Greek? That's a so Greek accent trying to speak english...

@HardwareBusters

2 жыл бұрын

From all the video and the number of measurements, this is the best you could ask? Ok...

Bro. Can you talk normal English without the accent? Very very distracting.