These SSDs are compatible and will play well with games like Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, as long as they meet the speed requirements. Even drives that don't meet the spec (older/cheaper gen4 drives) will still play well with _current_ games. But if you're buying a new SSD, the extra $20 - $30 for a drive that will meet specs and maintain its performance outweighs buying a cheaper, slower drive. As games evolve, load times will probably become more optimized for high speed storage or in-sequence loading, which could be problematic for slower drives. Gen3 drives are entirely incompatible regardless of storage size. In terms of heatsinks, your drive will need one as per Sony's recommendations, since there's no airflow in the M.2 compartment in the PS5. Many drives have built-in copper heatsinks that are better than nothing, or will sometimes come with an additional heatsink in the box. Otherwise, even a cheap, generic low-profile heatsink from Amazon will help ensure the longevity of drives. It does need to fit within the space though. Full drive requirements are here: www.playstation.com/en-ca/support/hardware/ps5-install-m2-ssd/ - JB

@shimchacko9133

2 жыл бұрын

When is LTT screw driver coming 😁

@K_ingh16

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not here

@DaozangD

2 жыл бұрын

Eyeballing IO performance is not really helpful... You could at least check some load times...

@Tyler-cd2mn

2 жыл бұрын

9th

@BoSaGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@shimchacko9133 prebutt warmed or not?

- "All you need is your SSD of choice" - Yeah - "A screwdriver" - Yeah - And of course, a PS5 - 🗿

@CJMudau

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@alecvogel3269

2 жыл бұрын

They aint even hard to get. For me they drop daily around 8am - 10am in the UK

@deadly_mir

2 жыл бұрын

PS5 i would constantly go to local stores, such as Walmart and GameStop if you live in the US and nag them about it. I see xbox's in stock every time i go to walmart get lunches for work and sometimes a ps5 or 2.

@dragofx_5472

2 жыл бұрын

@@alecvogel3269 there no daily drop where I am they just retail randomly and by the time I get one in stock I would probably have used the money for something else anyways, rip.

@graphicsgod

2 жыл бұрын

I was ok, till he said PS5. Then I was like oh.. and then I got sad.

“I’m Beta as fuck” I died.

@gregcarterii2357

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this.

@sangyoonsim

2 жыл бұрын

No you didn't

@Dlutheran

2 жыл бұрын

@@sangyoonsim why yes

@sejoki1

2 жыл бұрын

Comment from heaven? Or… hell. Probably hell.

@RS-Caleb

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dlutheran why no?

I love how any news outlet called this a hard upgrade. I don't think they've ever seen the lengths people have gone to to service their own consoles in the last 25 years. Gamers are determined folk

@lewanuva8158

2 жыл бұрын

It's the same as a PS4 upgrade and I never heard anyone say that was hard

@Cruz1214.

2 жыл бұрын

the hardest part of this is getting the outer shell off thats really it

@redassassian

Жыл бұрын

@@lewanuva8158 ps4 was harder with more screws and usb drive to put Sony update on it

@NotttC

Жыл бұрын

@@redassassian I upgraded a PS4 and a ps5. The ps4 is faster, getting the panel off is annoying

@viperdemonz-jenkins

Жыл бұрын

yea do not get how anyone can call that a hard upgrade, it is simpler than a PS4 SSD upgrade and that is simple.

I really like linus's approach of clearly explaining the pros and cons on both PS5 and Xbox sides.

@wesleyrhoads1894

2 жыл бұрын

Simply just buy both

@ScrapKing73

2 жыл бұрын

He missed a key advantage for the Xbox, its external storage is hot-swappable.

@Zenspathcom

2 жыл бұрын

Hot swappable between systems too...so I'm thinking of getting a Series S for my room & just transfer the digital titles between rooms with my Series X on the 2 cards I have already. :)

@moby1kanob

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but mostly the PS5 pros...I put in my 980 Pro with the beta load and its amazing. Just as fast as the internal storage speeds. SONY killed it on this one.

@ScrapKing73

2 жыл бұрын

@@moby1kanob Probably faster. Digital Foundry's testing found that read speeds were similar across the board, but that the internal storage was slower for write speeds (for drives that meet Sony's standards).

I love how there is a tiny little chapter dedicated to Linus's drop skills lmao!

@bluecitycloud

2 жыл бұрын

Bro I read this comment right when it happened

@NIGGASGANG

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lICLzZVqf6bFh9Y.html 😂😂😂

@mikewade777

2 жыл бұрын

Linus dropping stuff + screws etc. Makes me like M$ plug N play more so.

@one_up907

2 жыл бұрын

He has the best drop skills, makes me wonder if on his wedding day he dropped his wife walking through the door.

Imma just quietly watch this whist pretending i can afford an ssd let alone a ps5 lol

@mattblack838

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha..... same ☹

@xTWEAKMYSTERo

2 жыл бұрын

@@DemeDemetre that's not expensive either... get a job and save up.

@pedro4205

2 жыл бұрын

@@xTWEAKMYSTERo In latin america 70 euros it is like, half the minimum wage

@xTWEAKMYSTERo

2 жыл бұрын

@@DemeDemetre okay.. save a dollar a day or something. It's not unachievable with that mentality. No need to tell me to shut up, when I had no idea you were under 18.

@xTWEAKMYSTERo

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedro4205 I understand it's rough in some countries.. but the answer is still to just try and save up for whatever you wanna buy.

As a Series X owner, I like the freedom of the Sony storage system. I think it’s incredible smart to use PC components to upgrade consoles. Microsoft easily could have done that, as they are literally the first thing installed on nearly every SSD sold! Additionally, the price of those seagate cards is a bit insane

@faber3969

Жыл бұрын

I was expecting them to get a large price cut by now. I'm not paying $360 for 2TB of Series X storage when my 2TB PS5 compatible SSD was only $125.

@hungryy226

Жыл бұрын

@@faber3969 what ssd you talking about? Most gen 4 drives that are 2 tb are like $180 minimum

@faber3969

Жыл бұрын

@@hungryy226 Netac NV7000 is as low as $100 while the XPG S70 Blade can go down to $130. I'm converting to USD, I'm sure it depends on your country.

@hungryy226

Жыл бұрын

@@faber3969 oh I don't ever consider those worth buying, not durable enough

@faber3969

Жыл бұрын

​@@hungryy226 How? The S70 Blade is considered one of the best options on the market. They come with your standard 5 year warranty and there's no valuable data on a PS5 storage drive. Besides, other SSDs like the SN850X and Crucial's P5 Plus have been falling into that price range lately too.

When that first article came out saying the PS5's ssd upgrade was too hard, my immediate thought was, maybe it's just you...

@phoenix0828

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr? Almost every games media wrote that the SSD upgrade is too hard and comment sections were ful of ppl saying how hard it is and that they'll buy Xboxes now, but truth is, it's not hard and down the line it will be cheaper thanks to the normal PCI-E Gen 4 standard and not MS's dumb Memory Card trash

@neek01

2 жыл бұрын

People with 2 hands usually don't write articles as a job

@koishikomeiji6969

2 жыл бұрын

Journos be like

@obscure8125

2 жыл бұрын

They just copy the information from each other, the first one to post about the info just get all the information stolen. Well exception do exist.

@Braffy

2 жыл бұрын

From a general consumer standpoint (I'm expecting most of us are enthusiasts) even this degree of opening things up is too intimidating.

Sony said that they would be making a list of compatible drives for the PS5. My guess is, it will be available after the beta program ends.

@jarynh7800

2 жыл бұрын

@@DemeDemetre well yeah, but I mean some people like having huge game libraries. In addition games are huge. Look at WZ 1/10 of storage. Only time will tell with newer games.

@mohit_panjwani

2 жыл бұрын

@@DemeDemetre please tell me you’re joking. Hdd on ps5? Lmaoo.

@CPFitzgerald

2 жыл бұрын

@@DemeDemetre the intention i see is that the internal m.2 interface is a faster, and more mechanically secure, interface than an external USB hard drive, especially further down the road in the PS5s life span.

@mohit_panjwani

2 жыл бұрын

@@DemeDemetre HDDs are not even compatible with the ps5. You’re either lying or have no idea what you’re talking about.

@vedx1

2 жыл бұрын

underrated comment

0:20 watching Linus push something towards the edge of a table while looking away from it gave me heart palpitations.

@artimerdov2611

2 жыл бұрын

Lmaoooo

@Deadlytenor21

2 жыл бұрын

Linus is a cat in disguise, we all secretly know it XD.

@NoTraceOfSense

2 жыл бұрын

@EmperorXtreme go dance with the angels

@johnnytopgun6414

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ninjacool36781 It sounds like what a robot writes when he tries to make up a story

@Deadlytenor21

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ninjacool36781 He wont be for long. Don't know what's up with people dissing other peoples deceased parent for the sake of entertainment. It really grinds my gears on how insensitive people can be.

Love that you tested both drives inside and outside of the recommended Sony specs. Showing my props and support by purchasing the Mandscaped Linus package. I think more channels should do these co-branded or limited run practical product opportunities. Like Gerald Undone when he did the Purple Undone Kondor blue HDMI cables. I bought like 5 of those.

You should definitely put the cover back over the SSD slot, it's there to keep hot air from escaping into the rest of the system. There are exhaust slots inside the cavity that work with the negative pressure cooling design.

@unbearifiedbear1885

2 жыл бұрын

💪🏻

@indigoburst

2 жыл бұрын

@@unbearifiedbear1885 Your name is fantastic lol.

@unbearifiedbear1885

2 жыл бұрын

@@indigoburst haha thanks G - take care ❤

@dexteritymaster

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, knowing enthusiasts, easier alternative would be just to put some duct tape over it and be done. But yeah I agree that not adding holes to it without testing, they streamlined cooling a lot in later revisions.

"Someone needs to put pressure on Seagate." *Immediately Proceeds to use Seagate drive in demo*

@kaukospots

2 жыл бұрын

I guarantee it's Sony deciding that pricing, not Seagate

@LinuxinaBit

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaukospots I think you mean Microsoft with the Seagate partnership. But yeah Microsoft probably decides the pricing.

@GrabASpriteB

2 жыл бұрын

Seagate loses their exclusivity license to making drives this November. Hopefully we will see cheaper drives coming soon.

@nph_ninja

2 жыл бұрын

yeah... the hypocrisy🤣

@MrThedennisblack

2 жыл бұрын

@@nph_ninja I don’t think you know what “hypocrisy” means.

The hardest part of installing a M.2 ssd in a PS5 is to find a PS5.

@NIGGASGANG

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lICLzZVqf6bFh9Y.html 😂😂😂

@lewisholmes9526

2 жыл бұрын

They're really not that hard to get if you're patient. I've managed to get nearly 20 so far (I don't scalp them, I've gotten them for friends and family and made no money on them). You just need to find a good stock checker for your country and be quick when a notification comes through.

@tcc1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@lewisholmes9526 I swear I thought you and the guy who commented above were BOT comments since he said follow 'XYZ' person for 'ABC' stuff just like how you see it in the crypto bot comments. Also, you guys apparently use real names (your own names) which was made it suspicious even more (those crypto bots all have real names).

@Revener666

2 жыл бұрын

5 PS 5's :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/m5p1z5WPoJOwnrg.html

@Trizzy-

2 жыл бұрын

If ur still looking for one ur not trying hard enough lol

I think the main reason we don't have a certification process for add-on drives is because Sony hasn't fully tested the external storage option at launch, and is still testing now. There may be more specifications to check, and maybe a certification badge once all the science is substantially complete, and the proper drives do begin to proliferate the market.

Point of order: “Only 5500MB/s or faster drives are supported”…. in the Sony documentation shown, it says those speeds are RECOMMENDED, not that these are the only speeds SUPPORTED.

@Marcus_8192

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is that I would imagine some ps5 games are going to be made based on that specific read speed, so if you played those games on a 4000MB/s SSD you would get stuttering in some really heavy parts, for example in rift apart during the whole world shift thing you might fuck up the game if you're not using a fast enough SSD, so while it's only technically recommended, I wouldn't try getting a slower one.

@JolyonSmith

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marcus_8192 not the point. “Not supported” means: “put this in your machine and it either won’t work at all or if you have problems we won’t help you”. “Not recommended” which means: “sure, it will work but it won’t give you the best experience”. So whilst you, personally, would choose to stick with the recommended option, other people who may not be able to afford the recommended option might still prefer to choose “sub-optimal” over “no additional storage”, and being told that these options are “not supported” is misleading for those people.

@africanmixer

2 жыл бұрын

I just bought the gigabyte aorus gen 4 with the copper heat sink thats rated for 5000 read and 4400 whrite for 130€ 1tb, the newer drives are almost 100€ more expensive

@onetwo6039

2 жыл бұрын

@@africanmixer did it work?

@africanmixer

2 жыл бұрын

@@onetwo6039 yes the ps5 tested the drive and it gave a 5600 read speed and everything went well

I upgraded my microwave with an SSD, now it makes popcorn in 5 seconds. Thanks Linus!

@conservativestrawman9837

2 жыл бұрын

I installed an SSD in my microwave and it only will work when I read it Shakespeare

@storyforeveryone9530

2 жыл бұрын

Same here but my SSD was so powerful it exploded. Lucky to get such a fast one.

@Yuriel1981

2 жыл бұрын

I installed an SSD in my Subaru and now it's a Landover! Best upgrade ever!

@isakayyik966

2 жыл бұрын

If console moment

@one_up907

2 жыл бұрын

I installed an SSD on my bicycle now it's a chopper wooo!

Interesting comment at 5:59, recently I upgraded my ps5 and the sabrent rocket 4 plus came in a kit with a custom heatsink which replaces the metal heatshield inside and totally screws in place (neat solution), they even sell that heatsink seperately.

I watched a lot of these tutorials on KZread before I installed mine. Linus is exceptionally clear about the steps and gets to the details in seconds. There’s a reason LTT is on top.

"Why would sony put out this beta if they didn't expect it to perform as it should?" Wow things sure have changed. I remember when beta testing something = 100% a glitchy crapshoot

@danieljensen2626

2 жыл бұрын

Closed beta vs open beta these days I guess.

@LoganChristianson

2 жыл бұрын

That's the "alpha" now, but even then, that's largely horse shit.

@chilesuicmez

2 жыл бұрын

beta with actual users that have put money in the brand hahahahhaha dumb users.

@Anon.G

2 жыл бұрын

You're memory is actually very recent. Back in the day when terms like alpha and beta were being created, beta meant almost completely finished.

@SullySadface

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anon.G yup. Alpha is stability testing and critical fixes, beta is playtesting and major/minor bugfixes.

Yeah that notice on installing a slower drive makes total sense. It'll work for most games so it lets you use it, but if a future game comes up that really uses the PS5 mandated speed, you'll just have to swap over to the internal drive. No biggie, totally makes sense.

@rolerroleris533

2 жыл бұрын

Theoretically there shouldn't be anything wrong even at slower speeds, things just might load slower. I cant really imagine what kind of game feature would break from having slower storage, at most there would be obvious texture pop-in or lower quality textures.

@Anukinihun

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Sabrent top of the line SSD which is just as good as everyone's is dropping in price, you can get it for about $150 in some stores, and 180 on Amazon. Soon the others will follow

@Anukinihun

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolerroleris533 for 3rd party games yes, but first party games in the next few years will use the speeds of a 5.5 gb read speed in future games

@mikeymaiku

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anukinihun lol i hope the "speed" cap is something that is not seen until the end of life of the system. it would be pretty funny if in the end you didnt need the speed... at all and the only way they could make that marketing hold true is by forcing users to have the "suggessted" m.2 despite the games not requiring it, which honestly wouldnt surprise me if it did.

@Anukinihun

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeymaiku you will need it for games coming out soon like GTA VI, Spiderman 2 etc. From what I heard about GTA VI, the sandbox is going to be the whole State of California. I don't know if it's true but I believe it Because GTA V is huge

Maybe the reason that you can't record and save images into the extended storage is because the system is always recording in the background so it needs the internal storage to do that reliably. That's just a guess. Nonetheless you should be able to move the data into it afterwards if that is the case.

There are different kinds of reolutions in a signal, one of which can be temporal resolution, e.g. fps. More commonly used for high reoslution audio, but applicable to video signals as well

Sony- please buy brands we made compatible. Linus- No At least they might not make the same mistake as the PS Vita

@munjee2

2 жыл бұрын

It's about low specs not brands

@HouwariAttack

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair Sony has let you use off-the-shelf drives for all it's home consoles since the PS2.

@munjee2

2 жыл бұрын

@@HouwariAttack which is a real surprise since they are typically very anti consumer, with their proprietary connectors ,different for every thing and memory cards that were the same on everything, it took them forever to get SD cards on their cameras

@megacherv

2 жыл бұрын

@@munjee2 tbf the PSP supported Mini-USB, the DS3, DS4 and DualSense all supported generic USB connections, and the PSP's memory cards were at least somewhat more ubiquitous at the time

@munjee2

2 жыл бұрын

@@megacherv yeah after there recent more open standards it's amazing, I have had quite a few sony handicams over the years (before phone cameras were good) and all four them had completely different connectors and batteries, and two different proprietary memory card (memory stick and magic gate) it's really good how they changed this for the better is what I'm saying, I would've expected them to go the way of Nintendo making everything overly complicated thankfully I was wrong

Dont forget, to replace an SSD, first you need a table

@stephenhalim3192

2 жыл бұрын

And a swiss army knife that hopefully has a screwdriver

@K.R.X

2 жыл бұрын

Why'd you need a table for. I thought you could build a PC in mid air.

@daltonmckee4788

2 жыл бұрын

And then unplug it before moving it to said table. I often times wonder how many electronics are killed because people forget to unplug them before using screwdrivers inside them

@nongmaithemavinash3977

2 жыл бұрын

Livestrong bracelet for anti-static is a must

@Bayofthe91st

2 жыл бұрын

Remember guys, 13th September, we should celebrate its anniversary!

It’s videos like this that I’m grateful to have this channel. I’m expert in computers, but not bery knowledge/can offer “trail & error” test. Also, a PS5 & Xbox owner.

This video helped me realize that I was running on borrowed time with the SSD I had installed on my PS5 (DRAM-less, HMB instead). Upgraded to a Corsair MP600 Pro NH, which I’d originally bought as an upgrade to my PC boot drive. Both my computer and PS5 should be solid now

I've been building computers for 13 years, and currently work in tech support. I'm reminded every day about why I shouldn't underestimate the general population's ability to look at literally anything, and cry "Too hard! Too much work!"

@nexxusty

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. 3 years of IT Repair in store environment. People are incredibly dumb and lazy.

@dralord1307

2 жыл бұрын

I remember back in the day, A woman had 2, 5 1/4 drives. She came in cuz the cd she put in it didnt work. So after that she tried a 3 1/2 floppy in the second drive and it didnt work. That was not a special day back then.

@Silent_Shadow

2 жыл бұрын

So do you guys attempt to teach them anything? I bet if you needed your house rebuilt and tried you would fail and need to call a crew like the one I work on amd we wouldn't sit around and call you "dumb and lazy" for not knowing how to do our job.

@Zachary_Sweis

2 жыл бұрын

@@Silent_Shadow Yes, Just, that's overall the point of what I said. After attempting to show, teach, walk through, explain, etc. there is a general attitude of "Too hard. Too much work. Too complicated." We're not just sitting here saying shit like "All you have to do is reseat the M.2 SSD, then boot into the BIOS and make sure it's detected. Good luck. K thnx bye".

@TheGroundedCoffee

2 жыл бұрын

@@nexxusty I think that's a bit unfair. People all have their own talents and remember that a jack of all trades is a master of none. Would you take the time to learn about yeasts so you can bake a bread or do you entrust a baker to bake it for you? There's a reason why YOU work in IT, and not those people you mention.

Me with a 512GB sd card at 100MBps in my switch: "ah yes, speed is important. Understandable."

@Gramini

2 жыл бұрын

Me with a 2TB NVMe with 1.8 GB/s read speed: "Ah yes, this game loads quick. Wait, it's still on the hard drive."

@sportsgt

2 жыл бұрын

SWITCH IS GARBAGE DOE

@YawnMK1

2 жыл бұрын

Me with a 2TB NVMe "oh, yes, this game loads right up! Wonder how this NES would run if i actually install it"

@Gramini

2 жыл бұрын

@@YawnMK1 With NES you mean the Nintendo console? Most games were 41 kb, but the maximum was 1 MB. It would load instantly as long as you don't use a floppy disk (would need 4 seconds to load 1 MB, the 41 kb games would also load faster than 1 second).

@NichtDu

2 жыл бұрын

@Gramini omg true same happened to me

Always put the ssd cover back when swapping out your ssd. That cover is required for the PS5s cooling to work correctly.

@Antares-dw9iv

2 жыл бұрын

Am I missing soemthing? From what I can see it's literally just a piece metal that doesn't appear to be thermally connected to anything in any meaningful way and it is in turn just covered by a plastic side panel. If anything it's gonna act as an additional thermal insulator between the SSD and whatever minimal airflow might reach that space.

@nick277

2 жыл бұрын

@@Antares-dw9iv from my understanding (keeping in mind im terrible at explaining) the ps5 pulls air through the whole unit and by leaving that hole uncovered it lowers air flow to other parts of the unit. Imagine cutting a hole halfway down a straw. If you suck on it, air flow between the hole you cut and your mouth would be higher than below the hole you cut. You might not fry you ssd, in fact itd probably be cooler than usual but somewhere else in the ps5 isn't getting optimal air flow and may overheat instead.

@dxc

2 жыл бұрын

@@Antares-dw9iv basically creates negative air flow so that it gets cooled. Sony designed it that way so you definitely should put that piece of metal back on.

@victorascencio9938

2 жыл бұрын

Or buy a sabrent ps5 heatsinks

5:51 - It's been designed so the fan draws air through the fins, across the SSD and out the other side. You need the plate to channel the air. You can just grind the fins on the heat sink down so drives like the Gammix S70 will fit.

@JoshBreakdowns

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this

The test with that slower rated drive would have been perfect to see with Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart...would love to see Linus test that drive out with a game that truly utilizes the SSD for gameplay.

@AlejandroLZuvic

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts! Spider-Man: Miles Morales is a cross-gen title that should play well in PS4 too.

@tazmako316

2 жыл бұрын

Sony said Ps5 can use only ssd sony certificate(almost same speed everydrive). I'm not sure other slower can use it.

@zakparamir755

2 жыл бұрын

Read the pinned comment

@mitchellp7739

2 жыл бұрын

@@tazmako316 I’m not sure that you know how to English

@ziggbg

2 жыл бұрын

DigitalFoundry already tested that game on a slower drive ... and it works kind of ok.

I’m surprised people are complaining that this is too hard to install. IMO it’s about as involved as replacing the HDD on a base PS4.

@EminemLovesGrapes

2 жыл бұрын

These are people that are used to just clicking it in like the Xbox 360.

@bullet996

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to society.

@tonisara2950

2 жыл бұрын

@Anna Sad

@Estarvia

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, I dont think many people that said it was hard were referring to the installation process itself, but how the openness of the choices (but still specific requirements) can make it easy to end up buying something that wont work. Even that 1st drive that Linus installed is not actually following the requirements set by Sony, they are asking for the drives to have a heatsink, either one you attach separately or that the drive already comes with it (but doesn’t cause fit problems)

What is incredible to me is that this vid was from a year ago. Now I'm currently beta testing a PS5 software update that allows 8TB. He was right

Always super helpful. Uunderestemate how easy you explain things. Thank you Linus! Now I know how to upgrade properly!

*Sees Linus’ PS5 faceplate Anakin Skywalker voice: “Is it possible to learn this power?”

@olsirmonkey

2 жыл бұрын

prolly from dbrand

@Isaacthedank

2 жыл бұрын

Taobao has a lot

@sgtace

2 жыл бұрын

dbrand, they made it for him

@wolveric0

2 жыл бұрын

you can also try hydrographics, it is a flexible alternative (you can print whatever you want on the surface) and there are companies that can do that for a good price.

@sh3rkbyte52

2 жыл бұрын

@EmperorXtreme Bruh wtf

“Oh shit I need to use a screwdriver”, some people have screwdriverphobia 😂😂

When you did the gen 3 8tb you could have tried a gem 3 2-4 tb size to see if it was the size it was rejecting or the gen model.

Using the beta system software could allow that older Gen 4 drive to be used. However. When using the official system software release that drive may not work at all because of the lower transfer rates.

Thank you for including the step of needing a #1 Phillips screwdriver. You can make do with a 'normal' Phillips in every other case, but Ive found you really do need the one for that.

DigitalFoundry has a great analysis of the M.2 performance compared to internal and external drives on the PS5, for people wanting a bit more of a technical view.

So the MVMe SSD has to be Gen4 or later to work with the PS5? It's just no wonder that newer generation consoles need other things up to date as well.

Interesting that it's not a speed requirement but just a PCIe Gen 4 requirement. I wonder what would happen if you used a SATA to PCIe Gen 4 adapter (if such an adapter even exists)? Would that trick the PS5 into accepting a SATA SSD?

@amicloud_yt

2 жыл бұрын

Could we, through a bunch of adapters, trick the PS5 into accepting a parallel floppy drive?

@darkhaven9119

2 жыл бұрын

Hell no bro. It requires at least a 5500mbs ssd. No data comes when close to that. No ps5 games will run on an ssd less fast then that. Hence why it needs to be a gen 4 m.2

@leeeeni

2 жыл бұрын

@@darkhaven9119 you watched the video? he put a slower gen 4 drive and it still worked.

@darkhaven9119

2 жыл бұрын

@@leeeeni yes a slower gen 4 m.2. Not a sata. And while the slower ones might work you’ll get worse performance for any game running on that ssd because it’s not fast enough to do what the ps5 ssd does. Only the Samsung 980 can outperform the ps5 that I know of

@briankim6148

2 жыл бұрын

@@darkhaven9119 theres also wd black sn850, crucial p5 plus, seagate firecuda 530, aorus gen 4, and sabrent all have ssd speeds that far outperforms ps5 ssd.

Nice touch with the broken glass sound effect panned fully left... its the little things with LTT productions that make me smile.

@martinharnisch7398

2 жыл бұрын

I thought, wtf has broken in my room. xD

As a game developer it is beneficial to have a guaranteed spec, so you can be sure that if your game runs on one console, it will run on all of them... more or less. More hardware variations, more time spent testing on various types of hardware.

@RC-1290

2 жыл бұрын

@FeniX_TX_ yeah, I suppose you could list that as a requirement on your game, but at that point it's not much of a feature for Sony.

@leonfrancis3418

2 жыл бұрын

Just one more reason why this is a such a bad idea. We're going to see Sony fix this awful design choice on future iterations of the PS5, mark my words.

Got a Ediloca EN760 4TB with read 5000 and write 4500 saw the same screen about it being under specs of PS5. Filled up about half of it and still no issues playing PS5 games on it. It does however take an extra second or two to load. But a 4tb NVME for $206 I'll happily wait that extra second or two.

Hmm i think the main issue Sony is fighting with is the limited number of priority levels pc ssds have. I think the internal drive has 8+vs3 or 4 in a m.2 Also i remeber there being mutterings that you might need a 7Gb/s to be more comparitable to the internal deive.

I ran into the same problem with my Canon camera, one sd card that was "rated" at a high speed, my camera said it was too slow, and another card that was rated slower works perfectly fine.

@Niko-op3oz

2 жыл бұрын

Spoiled the whole vid lol

@anthonylong5870

2 жыл бұрын

Use a Kingston SD Card. They have one that is 480MB/S and it is not expensive at all....You can even bench test it with a reader on your PC and yes it does hit that speed.. I did it with mine

@Alecxace

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonylong5870 in my experience maximum write speeds mean absolutely nothing with SD cards. You want to check the minimum write speeds and their certification. Once that as card is in use it’s performance massively degrades. Hence why v10 cards are so dirt cheap, v30 is ok and v60-v90 and beyond get so expensive. Also avoid cheapo manufacturers

@volkan7844

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alecxace ye I think max write speeds usually mean "the write speed might possibly get this high but it won't almost all of the time"

The Xbox Series X/S's internal storage CANNOT be replaced due to a unique identifier on the SSD. You can clone the internal SSD to another SSD of the same make and model as a backup, but there is currently no way to install the OS onto another drive. We have done our own testing on this; you do require that identification that is unique to every Xbox Series X/S. SSDs cannot be swapped between consoles either due to the identifier. We are currently unsure if it is a security partition or something else, but if your main SSD dies there is no way to replace it.

@josephhoalt6824

2 жыл бұрын

This was true for Xbox One as well FOR A TIME. But now you can use ANY drive or SSD in an Xbox One with there OS installer now. So I'm sure that'll change in the future.

@MrStronghole

2 жыл бұрын

I think he was referring to manufacturer repairs made. Microsoft should be able to repair the ssd alone instead of the whole board, producing less electronic waste and faster repair times. Hopefully in the future we get an option for independent repairs.

@sysquick9991

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Microsoft should be able to perform the repair, but my place of work (SysQuick) is an independent repair shop that fixes several game consoles a day. I do expect someone to reverse engineer Microsoft's system eventually so we can perform SSD replacements.

The idea of an actual drive vs a card from Microsoft is much better. With the drive. You could pull it out and use it I'm another device if you need.

@user-fm8xs3hr3w

2 жыл бұрын

It's not better in terms of consistent performance and heat maintenance that's guaranteed with the Xbox option. Which is pretty big.

@DTPAR

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah true, you’d have to reformat the drive and wipe the files though

I actually just installed the 1 terrabite firefox drive and a funny thing that happened was the nail that holds down the spacer fell into the ps5 dust port, so I had to look throughout my ps5 then I finally found it

I don't think Linus appreciates just how hesitant a lot of people are with opening up electronics.

@Prodzick

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he does and he shows it's not a big deal. You don't even see the motherboard.

@Djroshi01

2 жыл бұрын

They’re rarely encouraged to. Most don’t even know about the Right to Repair fight. -_- It’s a damn shame.

@Mark.Taylor.

2 жыл бұрын

I think he does...but his audience is mostly not those people so it looks that way.

@Mark.Taylor.

2 жыл бұрын

@@Prodzick normal consumers do not want to open up electronics

@nanaholic01

2 жыл бұрын

Linus severely over-estimates the willingness of people to even RTFM to buy the correct drive, let alone open up, their electronics. There's a reason that we have a long ass half-century running joke that nobody knows how to set their VCR clocks. Microsoft - being the inventor of Windows OS - knows how utterly stupid their end users can be, and correctly judged that a memory card is going to save them tens of thousands of man hours of support tickets as well as dumb warranty claims related to installing a m2 drive in the console in a PC like fashion.

It's great to see you guys do something like this.

You probably can't store that stuff on the additional drive because those background tasks are handled by the co processor. It might be that only the cpu/gpu are physically wired to the additional slot. I may be 100% wrong but it's just a guess. The ps4 was the same way if you hooked an external drive up. It only let you load games to the additional drive.

980 pro is a great photo video editing drive , no stall in loading and saving big files. Love it.

4:11 I'll use a Swiss army knife that probably has screwdriver in it

@killertruth186

2 жыл бұрын

If it doesn't then it isn't made by Swiss.

@ArathirCz

2 жыл бұрын

Dont forget the rivestrong bracelet to prevent static electricity damaging your ps5.

@CaptainSunFlare

2 жыл бұрын

But first, you're gonna need a table

@cilllee2308

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget to use it in mid air

"giving gamers credit..." Same people that buy COD, FIFA and Madden year after year.

@jonmon5745

2 жыл бұрын

And nba haha

@clawwer4404

2 жыл бұрын

and give it a negative review on steam.. With some dumb excuse for buying it :=)

@justinsaned8865

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think Linus is highly overrating the average gamer. Plugging the Xbox expansion in is about as far as most would get. PS5 solution probably looks like some black magic voodoo.

@froogy9218

2 жыл бұрын

@@clawwer4404 "uhh my cousin bought it on my account i swear"

@CarbonPanther

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinsaned8865 I mean just think about it, not only do they have to take off the side panel BUT ALSO remove and move 2 different screws on their 500$ console! All kinds of things, possibly including explosions, could happen during that process!

The hardest thing for me was figuring out how to take the stupid cover off, but once I figured out how to do that it was easy. I'm also experienced no issues without a heatsink

I really like how he shows that u need to lift it up first to remove the cover, no other youtuber did that.👏👏

I really don't get what all the fuss is about! Sony *consoles* have always used the current indentured standard for storage. PS3 and PS4 took a standard sata 2.5" drive with height restrictions, sure NVMe has a much wider breadth of standards and Sony have gone with the latest standard, but it's still pretty simple of you scan the guide. Although I've seen a Firecuda 320 fitted and working, even though on paper it's incompatible. Thanks for showing how bloody simple it really is!

@isnflsQP

2 жыл бұрын

@@DemeDemetre ok?

@weaverquest

2 жыл бұрын

Believe it or not the average console gamer had no idea you can could change the HDD inside PS3 and probably PS4. I remember there was a cheap PS3 Slim SKU with 12 GB flash memory that was intended for people who has spare 2.5 HDDs that they could install hence saving money on the cheaper console but a lot of people were hating on the console saying you can't fit any games inside the 12 GB, obviously missing the entire point.

@Voltaic_Fire

2 жыл бұрын

Indentured?

@pikkyuukyuun4741

2 жыл бұрын

*cough* Vita

@Liam_Oliver

2 жыл бұрын

@@Voltaic_Fire Contextually; something that works within pre-determined agreements or standards.

Linus !!!! I need a comparison from old and “new” ps5 heatsink change. An in depth review please and thankyou

I enjoy all your videos so much. But is there a game you are good at? Cuz I havent seen it linus...

you forgot to mention that Sony recommends a heat sink

@gamenation93

2 жыл бұрын

I addeed a note about that as that was a massive glossover.

@DaleSanger

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamenation93 yeah touts it as "easy" then doesn't do a recommended step... think of the difficulties a non tech person trying to buy the right drive and installing it with heatsink will face .. not an arduous process, but to many people who have never opened an electronic device this will be a daunting task

@gamenation93

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaleSanger Basically. Daunting yes, hard no. But with him saying its easy then potentially screwing people over by glossing over an important step and then calls it easy blows my mind.

It feels like a good compromise would be allowing you to use it like a usb drive, purely to store games when you aren't playing them, and use the accelerated read/write speeds to make exchanging data with internal storage a faster process.

Interesting. I am curious as to how all of this is gonna turn out in the long run. Maybe Sony did this to some sort of difference between a Console and Pc's.

I'm not sure if it's just me doing it wrong, but I think you need to do the part where you register for the beta and input the key first. I just connected a compatible drive and couldn't get passed a message that prompted me to turn off the PS5 and remove the drive. I've signed up for the beta, so just waiting on the invite now.

for those wondering how it runs with the heat plate off, my 980 pro with a BeQuiet! MC1 Pro (which is like 1mm too tall) didnt go above 64c under load (running Returnal with a thermal probe in between the heatsink and SSD) Honestly Im not sure what sony was thinking there with that slot, there is no way in hell those little razer blade sized slits would allow any sort of airflow.

@chilesuicmez

2 жыл бұрын

they rushed it, its obvious.

@budthecyborg4575

2 жыл бұрын

The same people who designed the PS5 chassis probably designed half of the "Air Flow" cases that Steve has to review.

@NIGGASGANG

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lICLzZVqf6bFh9Y.html 😂😂😂

Sony recommends a heatsink on the ssd.

@Marcus_Taurus5

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment! I was wondering where in the WORLD is the heatisink🤔 It will run without it, until it fries itself due to no way to disperse heat😏

@royaltyallen1162

2 жыл бұрын

It's gonna work fine just it always been on PC... It already has a built in heat sink(kinda) the sticker. It's not gonna fry itself,if it does get too hot,it's gonna downclock to not fry itself

@cortex6065

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marcus_Taurus5 typically SSD don’t get that hot, but I guess it depends a bit on the drive.

@nicholaswoods6671

2 жыл бұрын

@@cortex6065 typically m.2 ssd's run hot, this is why you see many running heatsinks as standard or on motherboards. The chips tend to like running at hotter temps ok but the controller needs to be cooled else it will have throttling issues or straight up die.

@Wickedroonz

2 жыл бұрын

@@cortex6065 why would they need a heatsink it they didn't get hot?

I completely agree with you Linus! I was thinking of that SN850 from WD and i was immediately up for a 2TB (4TB is just too expensive). I think 2TB, if you have the money is the perfect solution for now. I don't have any more in my PS4 Pro to be honest. So for my PS5 2TB should be plenty for now. Thinking of that WD or FireCuda. I just want to have the fastest so i guess that's that Seagate? I did like the look of the WD but in the end we won't see that drive, unless we mod the PS5 in some kind of transparent panel lol. Anyway, for now, i'm good. But i am planning on upgrading that drive very soon. Another plus is that there won't be shortages with those drives!

@Miguel131291

Жыл бұрын

I recently bought the 850X 2tb I was running 2tb on my ps4 (personally I prefer to keep everything digital) so this was a really good option. But tbf I was tempted with an SN770 at the time but when I saw the speed requirements I thought, even though it may work now, probably in the future say 2-3 years games will be bigger and a quicker reading speed will make the difference

@DBLCreations

Жыл бұрын

@@Miguel131291 I have the SN850 which is already 2000MB (2GB) over the required readings. So it's already really fast. I have the 2TB and i'm planning on getting the 4TB. The drive i got was About 1,5j. ago. The read/write speeds are higher again already. And not one game has needed those requirements so i think i'm good. The only benefits the higher read/write speeds might have right now is on pc. 🙂 I still buy my game physically. As i think this is the way to go. (For now at least.) Digital might be the future but i'm happy we still live in a world with options.

There is quite problem whit certification,... and its well known and used Bait and swich technique, when both storage chips and controlers (and its firmware wersion) are changed depending market situations but may affect finall results.

On Dirt 5 when it's talking about the frame rate, it's talking about the Prioritize Frame Rate mode for 120hz displays. So if your display isn't 120 hz or is set to 60 Hz then that option won't appear.

@sheryarfarrukh8464

2 жыл бұрын

Why are there 3 options then? If one means prioritise resolution then sure 4k i get it but what does prioritise image quality mean then?

@oskapok

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheryarfarrukh8464 Maybe lower resolution like 1440p but better graphics quality. I'm just guessing but it can be high on 4k or ultra on 1440p

@Nilmur2

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheryarfarrukh8464 think of the following setting in games graphics/video, resolution, framerate limiter, everything else (shaders) and what not, image quality is that everything else, dependent on what the developers chose, in a game like monster hunter: world, it was shadows and textures

@NIGGASGANG

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lICLzZVqf6bFh9Y.html 😂😂😂

@peaj4812

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nilmur2 I think they should have definitely labeled it 'graphics quality' not image. 'Image quality' includes resolution, image quality is everything you see on screen, where as graphics are specificly everything other than resolution. Like you said, shadows, textures, etc.

“The Xbox solution costs more” *proceeds to install $1000 drive*

@plannedcorn7647

2 жыл бұрын

^

@fhdez91

2 жыл бұрын

4tb

@TheDiegobernal

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah for a 8TB SSD.

@Mr16emmanuel

2 жыл бұрын

At least he has options, it’s his choice lol he also put an 199$ one

Would there actually be a problem with putting the bigger heatsink ssd in and leaving the metal cover aside?

What about the Heat Synk ? I know not all of them come with a Heat Synk but I watched another video that said that the SSD gets hot and needs a Heat Synk . I know you covered that but in the other video I watched the Heat Synk was blue

"Just buy a Samsung you'll be fine" Is what I've told anyone who came to me for SSD advice.

@royaltyallen1162

2 жыл бұрын

The 2tb 980 pro is on sale too $369

@charlierose1708

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@hafizlemot

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they last so long you're practically never going to worry about it.

@derptyderp5287

2 жыл бұрын

Might wanna be a bit more specific, before they complain their 2" Samsung sata ssd doesn't fit in the hole.

Should have used Racthet and Clank it's one of the first that stream level in 'real time' with the drive speed..

i think even when you push a game you do not need that much bandwidth anyways at full time but rather boosts as it loads some areas or textures. in some games

So even though at first the ball was in Sonys court on this one I think as soon as he said you can’t put game recordings on the nvme drive it went right back over to Xbox.

I don't know if he got a promotion or what, but Linus letting Kyle out of his cage is the best new trend of LMG

@JB-tz9pi

2 жыл бұрын

was Kyle in this video?

#4. Xbox's approach leaves you open to your kids' friends swiping your removable storage with ease.

@orielsy

2 жыл бұрын

You have little thieves coming over?

@chauschi

2 жыл бұрын

@@HalfwayHikes my kids are grown up. If you think kids aren’t capable of doing dumb things, you’re kidding yourself.

There are new heat shields that go over the SDD with heat sinks on them that you can get now wich look pretty good

According to Sony's mechanical engineers, the cover is necessary to create a negative airflow that allows the system fan to whisk away heat.

Why not test a game that pushes the SSD such as R&C going through portals or Returnal going between biomes? The games you tried were cross gen so wouldn't fully utilise the speed of a PCIe 4 SSD.

@boffifis1

2 жыл бұрын

its LTT not people with sense

@grandu9761

2 жыл бұрын

YES, R&C would be the obvious choice.

@LetrixAR

2 жыл бұрын

Check Digital Foundry test. Probably the same results with "incompatible" SSDs

@DrozdVadim

2 жыл бұрын

R&C doesn’t use ssd so much, all that just advertising bullshit

@Zefar77

2 жыл бұрын

How is the Spiderman game not highly dependend on the SSD? Seeing how it's a massive city that needs to load in and load out materials as he swings around.

Sony recommends a heatsink on the SSD. Some SSD's come with them, otherwise they are cheap to buy as an addon.

@Jo21

2 жыл бұрын

you can get one with RGB and then get transparent case

@nexxusty

2 жыл бұрын

Then Sony shouldn't have made that stupid plate to cover them.

@Kenjionigod

2 жыл бұрын

This. I personally bought the PNY XLR8 with a Be Quiet heatsink for under 200

@harshgoel536

2 жыл бұрын

@@infernaldaedra but you can't put the ssd cover back on

@jesusbarrera6916

2 жыл бұрын

@@nexxusty the plate is there to protect the M.2 connection.

4:53 that tiny scratching of the SSDs surface made me feel uneasy :D

That first gen PCI-e 4.0 Corsair NVME SSD that doesn't meet the speed requirements but still let you continue to use it, how well does it work with Rachet & Clank: Rift Apart?

I’m having flashbacks to the PS3/Xbox 360 generation of memory expansion. Sony: use a SATA drive of your choice. Microsoft: here’s our proprietary drive.

@charlesingram881

2 жыл бұрын

the slim fixed that.

@charlesingram881

2 жыл бұрын

somewhat...

i dont even have a ps5 but im still watching just to see linus explain things

It's super easy to do now. It literally took maybe 10-15 minutes with some of that time dedicated to simply dis-/reconnecting the cables from the back of the PS5 and finding the little "how to" video. (I'm not a tech wizard by a long shot, btw.)

The check for Gen4 at least ensures 3000mb/s+ read speeds. Gen3 drives, even NVMe ones, can be as slow as less than 1,000mb/s reads. 256GB WD Black Gen3 OG drive is rated for 950mb/s.

"This procedure is completely safe" He made all of the installing with the console plugged XD

@bryanwharton6692

2 жыл бұрын

My ps5 screams at me every time I unplug. You have to completely shut down the power from the system menu and that is just a lot worse than a physical button on the console. Also every time the power went out (hurricane season in Florida) I was afraid my console would brick

@abeld94

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanwharton6692 kinda obvious to turn off the console completely and the unplug....

@burnmybread4985

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanwharton6692 If you live in a power outage prone area you might want to invest in an UPS. I have multiple UPS for my PC and Consoles to at least allow for safe shutdowns.

@foufoufun

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanwharton6692 It's not like the console takes a lot of time to shut down and boot up. I barely use the rest mode feature on mine.

@VC777

2 жыл бұрын

@@burnmybread4985 yes definitely this. UPS is a must.

the hardest part about this upgrade is getting a ps5 at a reasonable price

Does that little metal shield absolutely need to go back in there after putting in a drive? Wouldn’t it affect the drive’s thermals?

I do hope Xbox do eventually source storage out to more companies than just Seagate but there are different storage sizes available now being 2tb, 1tb and a 512gb SSD on the way the smallest being £130 on Amazon I think. And at least on Xbox we had a next generation storage device at launch but I'd rather have 3rd party options.

After installing the incompatible drive, now the PS5 is making weird noises at night.

@galactic1845

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not your ps5 look out the window

@Mr16emmanuel

2 жыл бұрын

Lies!!

Me: who doesn't have a PS5 but still bought a drive for the PS5

@magician1515

2 жыл бұрын

I got it but at what cost

@skovdring

2 жыл бұрын

@@magician1515 lol

@marioStortuga

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I put it on my motherboard

Just bought manscaped with your sponsorlink, so stoked to get em :D

Would love to see a update to this video

Great job LINUS!, as always!! My only question that wasn't answered is, do we need cooling in every ssd we use? Not all m.2 ssd's come with a cooling apparatus, i've seen some 3third party coolling things for m.2 ssd's that fit the ps5 slot.

@MrHabushi

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you do, Sony have specifically said you should use a heatsink of some kind.

@knightsljx

2 жыл бұрын

SSD add-on heatsinks are cheap and varies. You can even get one with heat pipes and fan. Sabrent even sells an add-one one specifically for PS5