My days of mowing grass are long gone, but I appreciate your no nonsense, tell it like it is, what they don't tell you in the brochure assessment. Well done!

The grass looks like velvet - really nice !

Good analysis and recommendations! I hope Toro sees this and appreciates your efforts!

Thank you Fill for the honest review of this mower! I appreciate the great job you always do. Take care and God Bless! 😊

Can't believe you're heading into winter again Fill - heading into summer here in Australia (& they say it'll be a HOT ONE!). You're the king of 'stripes' mate, nice job. Stay well :)

That thing is way cool. Sweet pickup power on those high lift blades. Good point on that flimsy cover and lack of weather stripping. Not really a commercial worthy rig but for Joe Homeowner that would be sufficient... on a dry day.

I've got the Recycler and Super Recycler 60V and their fine for the home. I thought of getting that Turfmaster but it's a tad more than I need, although my backyard is big enough that it would be nice to have the wider cut. For the commercial guys, having to transition to battery is going to be tough. I know a lot are using the battery powered hand tools, but to adopt e-mowers is going to require a hell of a lot of batteries. Or, they could run chargers off of their trucks via invertor/generator. But then what's the point of running cleaner mowers if you're just going to replace all that carbon savings with a petrol engine running to charge the batteries? It feels like we need one more advancement in battery tech to get a viable solution for long-term use. Imagine if those 3 batteries could store twice the energy in the same size? I think that would be the game changer.

@mikeranfft6361

4 ай бұрын

How is your SR 60V doing for run time with your mows? I'm considering one over Ego, but note that 7.5 battery is not going to give a long run time. Thanks for any feedback!

@zachdailyfost4433

3 ай бұрын

​@@mikeranfft6361 i run a 60V 22in recycler and it does pretty ok on a 8k²ft lawn space, i opted for a regular gas high lift blade for it which helped with the bagging issue, and i can get a full mow in with the 6AH battery it came with, personally i like electric mowers, dont smell like exhaust and are quiet. I use it mainly when my turf gets out if hand with for my reel lol which if its been a week it gets used. But ya everything i have is toro 60V minus my reel

Hi Hi. Love your videos and dedication to detail. Thank you for sharing your experiences with mowers. God bless you for the work you do.

Interesting video & good info. Thank you. 👍🏼

Maybe for Medical facilities or for housing projects where it is nice to have a more quiet surrounding and the option to charge the batteries during using the second pack. But for lawn services in the road that’s not an option - yet.

One good thing about it it does give good stripes that is a plus

Good video, Fill. Very informative

Good for a homeowner with a big yard but not for commercial use.

I have seen with the Timemaster that people have switched blades like you did and lost a little on the battery. They come with a hybrid blade of sorts to help with blade speed and battery power.

Great info and great job on the straightness of your lines. Tru pro :)

Even as a homeowner I just can’t switch to battery lawnmowers Tools yes but mowers not yet I’m sure in time they will be better but even then I think I would break out my scissors jk Price Runtime Longevity of battery (s) Sounds a lot like the battery cars I’ll stick to my gas guzzling maintenance requirements of my gas mowers. I like too working on my equipment even though I’ll be 70 soon Good video thanks for confirming what I suspected

I am a Solo operator. Small fry guy doing 7 properties a week. I have two Toro V60 mowers 21 inch SR and 22 inch recycler. Have 4 batteries 3 of the 7.5 ah and 1 6.0 ah. The 6.0 ah is having fade issues and only charging to 75 percent. Just ordered a 30 inch gas electric start Time Master from Home Depot. Got it for 1350 going to start using this to offset and save the batteries. Compared to the battery version of the home owner time master daved 1000 bucks and the future cost of the batteries would be 450 each. Thats buys alot of gas. I do love my current electric 60 volt mowers though.

Love your videos Fill. God bless👍💚

Thanks for the review

Good job and God bless you and your family 🙏

Great video. Thanks.

I fully support the ev recvolutiom it’s about time gas got outta here and ev took the spot light

Thanks for the info!! I started my lawn biz 7 years ago but now my city is forcing me to switch to electric. They gave me a $25,000 grant to help with the cost but I have researched for months and I just feel like electric is not the answer. I think electric blowers and trimmers are great but I would rather pay extra for lawnmowers to have emissions stuff on them so we can keep using our gas mowers. They could put a catalytic converter on lawnmowers and they would cost probably $600 more but I don't care as long as we can keep our gas mowers. Cut quality of electric is complete shit, not a professional cut!

Batteries like those need airflow to keep cool. If they get too warm, they will shut off. By sealing the top with weatherstripping, you run the risk of no or lesser cooling and even lesser run times in warmer weather.

Good looking grass!

I think you hit it spot on. There is a niche for these type of mowers, and that’s fine, but for commercial use on larger properties they would not be an optimal choice.

Good knowledge to know, love you much. Afriend.

Batteries are SO expensive, to buy a lot of them is no a real option

@jcjc7783

9 ай бұрын

I run a fully electric lawn care service. I have 3 batteries for my mower, 3 for my trimmer and blower because it’s a different brand, and one large one that chargers everything. I make around 9k a month, so it’s 100% an option.

@dommm111

9 ай бұрын

@@jcjc7783 I'm glad you are doing well, cheers mate

@jcjc7783

9 ай бұрын

@@dommm111 thanks dude! And that being said, the get go definitely was pricy, and electric 100% still has its down sides, but overall I’ve really loved the switch. Cheers to you too

@reptilewyd4618

4 ай бұрын

@@jcjc7783I’m glad you’re doing good man

@m.mcnally4534

4 ай бұрын

Well it could be with the right set up for sure when you buy tools make sure you get battery packages to get them cheaper. Also make sure you have a set charging and one ready to go.

Cuts pretty good. I've thought about getting a battery mower just for my yard

Nice job

Nice review Phill..

Thanks Fill!!!!👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

Interesting for sure!

That is a nice battery mower it’s like the turfmaster gas that you used to use last year

I have this mower ❤ I can do up to 13 to 14 a day I have 20 of the 10ah batteries no problem with me it's call everyone save your money

Fill, I have to agree with you.

I love you honesty when it comes to buying equipment to doing lawn care with industrial mowers compared to others you have tried. We all need to reduce our carbon footprint if we don't our generations ahead of us are going to suffer the consequences of our actions. Its always advisable to use batteries where possible but sometimes when you have many lawns you have to take care of sometimes there are more economical alternatives I would like to get a zero turn for the 11 acres i am about to take on, but a Kubota tractor mower gets the job done and i don't have enough extension cord to do it any other way for my electric push mower. or my weed wacker. Great job though. See you in the next video Fill. Is your name actually Fill? i just thought i would ask. Take care stay safe and God Bless you too.

I really appreciate the review! I was considering getting the timemaster 60 volt but the run time just isn’t worth the return on investment for commercial use.

Nice Good joob brow

I could see myself using it as a homeowner. The fact that it comes with the three 10ah batteries makes it a perfect match with Toro's full size snow blower. It looked like the front wheels were still turning while they were off the ground. Is it all wheel drive?

I’m wondering where did you get the high lift blades from?

Yes same here wheelies 😊

Nice video. What kw rating is the mower? I have the 21" proline 60V at 2kw and it's just enough power, also has a regular gearbox so you need blade going to engage the drive. Looked like you had it in boost mode, that and high lift blades will drain battery, higher the blade sail the more drag it creates and drains battery, probably why it came with flat blades, but no good at collection. I reckon bigger batteries are coming for Toro and electronic gearboxes. Keep up the good work, hello from England.

You’ll need an on the go charging solution if you want to run all battery. Been at it for 3+ years all battery with a LiFePO4 on the go charging solution. I’ve also found that you don’t really need “commercial” grade equipment. E we run the Toro Super Recycler 60v and it’s much easier to operate than the commercial units.

@ousamaabdu794

8 ай бұрын

How do you like the 60v Super recycler vs gas unit? And do you run it commercially?

@MrSustainable

8 ай бұрын

@@ousamaabdu794 battery is overall superior to gas. As long as it’s at least as good as the gas equivalent. Yes, there are tons of equipment that isn’t. The Super Recycler is by far the best 20-22” push mower I’ve ever used. Lightweight, beautiful cut quality, quiet, clean, destroys leaves, and it’s also pretty for looking too😂. Yes, it’s used commercially

@ousamaabdu794

8 ай бұрын

@@MrSustainable Thanks for the reply I do a ton of push mowing as the majority of my lawns are on smaller city lots. I use the Toro 22 Recyclers. The older ones with the 190cc engine or Honda engine . They work great, but require quite a bit of maintenance, hence why I'm thinking about switching over to battery push mowers. What kind of volume/lawns per day, exct does your battery super recyclers ( like do you have a few in the rotation) see, and how do you keep the batteries charged throught the day? Thanks for any intel you can offer

@MrSustainable

8 ай бұрын

@@ousamaabdu794 We’re currently rotating 4 batteries on 2 chargers throughout the day. With an on board charging solution, we just cycle the batteries throughout the day on and off the chargers. It’s what we, and the other great guys on the Electric Lawn Talk podcast have found to make running all 🔋 equipment work. Check out episode 6 for some great info on the on the go charging solutions throughout the different companies.

How many batteries you have to use in order for it to work ?

would like to see that mower in the heavy stuff

I’m guessing the reason the self propel doesn’t operate w/o the blades on this one is because it still uses a pulley / belt drive from the electric motor shaft, same as the gas ones. Some of the smaller electric mowers, like the echo 56v I use, have an electric motor that turns the self propel independent from the blade, so you can engage that and have the mower go along without the blades if you want. I think the batt powered stuff is great for edgers / trimmers, but still has a ways to go for big backpack blowers and mowers. The only reason that echo mower works for me is I only push mow a couple of small backyards per week, and one small subdivision w 6 cookie cutter small yards. It does great for that but I wouldn’t ever attempt to run it as a main mower for 8-12 full lawns a day.

That lawn mower is so cool. I prefer gas though. Question though,how do you edit your videos if you film on your phone

Such a nice grass, looks like velvet 🤭

what feedback did u get from Torro after the review?

❤️

how was the mow quality

Nice JOBS Fill Looks Good

It's amazing how much quieter battery is over gas. Is the performance compreable to each other?

@LL-mt2nz

9 ай бұрын

I have owned both gas and battery Toro mower. I’m wrapping up the first season with my Toro Super Recycler 60v. It is cuts and bags just as good as the gas. The electric mower seems to have more torque that the 163cc motor. The quieter operation is worth every penny.

Do your customers ask you to bag, or is that just personal? This is my second year in business and I’ve never bagged a property

That is a nice looking cut that it does. Too bad it doesn't have a drive without blades

Do you still have your gas powered one

Battery life in lawn equipment is a work in progress. But it's the future. Especially with the cost of gas and maintenance of the gas mower. Great video. Love your videos. I have Battery in all my lawn equipment. Take care and be bless 🙌 🙏.

40 mins and 2 bars left with the high lift blades isnt bad. Compared to the price of a 42"+ toro revolution mowers these things are cheap even with spare set of batteries. They could work on the price of those batteries, at $449 each thats quite a bit. It would be nice to have a plug in to charge the batteries while they are still in the mower.

@TOML0856

7 ай бұрын

yikes needs six more batteries to do your day worth of mowing for a lawn business at 449 a battery . How do you ever going make any money?

You need to have a solar power in closed trailer to keep your batteries charged up if you use it commercial mowing.

That was a large yard in my opinion to test. Doesn't seem like many folks would have that size yard.

Everyone does a review on toro battery mowers but wat you dont talk about is the cost of each battery so in the long run gas much cheaper to run n your electric bill wont be sky high

Battery equipment is best for the diy space. Unless you want to invest in several batteries, gas is still makes the most sense for commercial applications

Don’t forget your gloves 🧤

Try a OSO 21 inch before I buy.

Gas only for me.

In my opinion this would be to costly. I will assume some of the batteries will not last a season being charged and used 5 days a week

Theses things should be charging the batterys while its running... its mad why its not happening.. but then again they make alot of money from battery sales

I run a timemaster for my business and there is no way I would buy the new battery 30 inch offerings from Toro with no blade brake. It’s a crazy oversight from the petrol machines.

Hey Fill go ahead and send me that mower. Lol

The gas one yes you can drive with out the blades off I don't know why the one doesn't

That top is probably like that so the heat from the batteries and motor can escape to stay cool

450$ for a single 10ah battery makes this a no for me

I’ll stick to the trusted gas unit. Transport without blades on a 30 is very important.

We call it a sump

Put a lock on the battery cover. 300 bucks each. Ouch!

I will stick with my 30 inch gas TimeMaster. :)

Good vid but since you are not going to use the mower you can send it to me ill pick it up....👍👍

Hi yes that mower cut pretty nicely but I been moving for a while as well as repairing mowers and I will for ever insist on gas powered equipment because it would be way too expensive to buy enough batteries to make it through a work day let alone a on the go charging system to change all those batteries. This electric crap needs to advance a long long way before it's even some what practical.

Yes unfortunately petrol mowers with drive on them have to have blades engaged to move to that's all you get here in UK

The Greenworks 30" commercial mower uses (3) 8ah batteries. Does about 2 1/2 yards per battery. All 3 batteries about 7 1/2 yards. Lot size about 60x100. Battery savings is what I CAN" brag about. Oh, .....the power, the cut, and use of the bag are ALL very good too. The unit though is one heavy piece of equipment and the maneuverability is difficult. You feel like your fighting it at times. It has wheel motors and no transmission. The toro has a transmission which can allow for variable speeds and allow for better maneuverability. Another thing is if you need parts, say for example blades, you have to contact the dealer and he will order them (since he doesnt stock them). And then you will have to b pay not only for the blades but $25 for shipping. And I dont know of a dealer in the area that stocks mowers or parts. Calling Greenworks customer service is atrocious. Sooooo, I feel that the Battery mower situation still has a ways to go.

$2800.00 for mower plua $450 for each extra battery. 12 batteries times $450 = $5400 plus cost of mower $2800 = $8,200.00 but hey no oil change or gas. Ha Ha Ha Not for most of us. Oh add tax.

Battery technology will not make it far unless that next gen battery works out in by 2035. 3 times more power for the space and recharges 3 times faster. That’s the only way it’s going to work well that and actually building a few reactors in every state. Would hate to be in one of the states like California when they shut down the charging. I bet the low lift blades were to increase runtime by creating less wind resistance.

Or make the batteries a lot cheaper to buy

Battery disposal and the minerals they require in the manufacturing process are also long term considerations for the environment

I fix all these problems by having the gas one .

Well my ego would have gone that entire 2 lawns with just the 1 7.5ah battery. It's only a 21 inch with only one blade so thats a big difference. I would assume each blade has its own motor so your running 2 motors so yeah its gonna eat battery.

Gasoline forever bro

I try to stay away from large battery tools. Aside from the chance of catching on fire, I don't like the idea of kids being forced to dig the materials to make the batteries. But that's just me!

Toro couldn’t do a blade brake clutch on a electric mower that cost 2k?

@mattz5770

7 ай бұрын

More like $3,500

I was amazed at your foot prints in the lawn . I didnt like it. But i enjoyed your review of it .

That's the problem batteries need to many of them and to expensive no way for commercial landscapers

I can't imagine they meant that as a commercial machine. I spend way more than an hour mowing. It did a beautiful job though. Quiet, too, as compared. But I can keep mine engaged without the blades, which is very good because by the time I'm done mowing, I'm pooped!

@LL-mt2nz

9 ай бұрын

The main advantage of Toro’s drive system is that there is no lag when engaging the self propel mechanism. Personal pace uses energy from the motor while other systems have a separate electric motor that propels the mower. While you may engage the self people without running the motor, it behaves in a jerky manner. Almost a delay.

I think toro purposely didn’t want the blades to shut off while you walk with it so you can wait another year or two until they fix that problem and continue buying or using the gas versions. I am very disappointed with them! 3 10AH batteries and only 1 charger…how the hack are all the batteries going to be ready for the next day, no one is going to set an alarm clock every hour to switch batteries. I have 2 toro 30’ timemasters for my landscaping business. I am going to wait until they fix the blades to shut off. That’s a safety issue

take it of max lol

Rhett

No stay petrol

Just attach a charger to the engine of your truck.

You will never sell me on electric for lawn care and landscaping.

That Toro is awfully loud for electric mower.