In this episode or Pro Wrestling 101, Justin Credible discusses the importance of wrestling based on your placement on the card.
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@joshuat7705 жыл бұрын
Paul's answer to you in ECW may be part of the reason it's not in business anymore. As I understand, EVERY wrestler on the card HELPS to sell tickets, ect so ALL involved can EAT, to keep it plain. Your advice in this video seems the BEST way to FEED EVERYONE as a whole. Very good video.
@jenisia3600
9 ай бұрын
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@robmiller73475 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree the old bookers used to have rules on their booking sheets. For example no one on the floor before the fourth match. No unauthorized use of gimmicks. No unauthorized use of blood. No unauthorized use of main event guys move etc. It was to keep main events matches special and not to overload it and not to desensitize a person and it worked because the first match was usually two underneath guys and they would do a twenty minute draw. That was done on purpose to give people time to settle in for the main event matches and be able to start on time!
@juanfourneau887910 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Even as a older guy its a great reminder. I wrestled a ton of opening matches & always felt my role was to get the crowd warmed up, excited & educate them that this Indy show was going to be legit. In shape guys who could wrestle & entertain. That was it, that was my role. It required me to be unselfish because everyone after me got the benefit, but that's why opening match is a great spot on a card. A good promotor doesn't put just anyone in the opener.
@bdr1130809 жыл бұрын
Justin is a smart guy. I saw him at an indy show 2 weeks ago in a match with Cody Hall, those 2 had the best match by far. Kliq 4 Life!
@lilxlondanet10 жыл бұрын
Very informative video Justin, I'm a big wrestling fan and never saw it that way. Congrats man!
@blizakebowman10 жыл бұрын
These videos are completely insane how useful they could be. You're the man.
@Fettclone110 жыл бұрын
Steve Austin had many similar things to say on one of his podcasts. In his words, guys should "find a good spot, sit your ass down, and watch the other matches".
@stephonwilliams5232
3 жыл бұрын
My thing is what else are you doing to no be able to watch the matches
@BillKinggarak998 жыл бұрын
I've been to concerts where the opener was better than the headliner it don't happen often but it happens
@stephonwilliams5232
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@TheMattypoo2110 жыл бұрын
I myself wrestle and its a tough business to be in. Keep up the amazing work, these videos are awesome!
@ProWrestlingExtra10 жыл бұрын
33 year veteran, The Wrestling Doctor Hal Lee from Pro Wrestling Extra and Pro Wrestling CSI did a vlog on this (called Know Your Role) exact subject in October 2012. Great advice!
@adamstokes57510 жыл бұрын
love your vids man! keep giving us great tips
@NYCrazyRob10 жыл бұрын
3:28-3:34 That's the problem with WWE. They keep showing the same match on free TV and then have it again at the PPV.
@RatedRMatt10 жыл бұрын
As a wrestling trainee I always look forward to your videos man ! Please keep them coming
@Tinkidink10 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your vids! Great stuff as always!
@dtmrea2472 жыл бұрын
Yup. Have to understand, the fans are watching a full show, so it's important for the performers to keep things fresh and have variety. That doesn't mean the opening guys can't do anything cool - it just means they should try to avoid high spots that are likely to occur again later in that particular show. And all you have to do is communicate. "Hey, we're thinking about doing X in our match. Anybody else already doing that?" Easy.
@dzcompton19919 жыл бұрын
Much respect to Justin credible for these videos. I have just discovered them. Was always one of my favorites in ECW more so than people like sabu and sandman even Tommy dreamer
@bardunshield10 жыл бұрын
Subbed. I've been watching your videos today and everything that you've said makes sense to me.
@brockf510 жыл бұрын
love these because i plan on getting into the wrestling and these are imformative..Thanks
@TheHardcoreRob10 жыл бұрын
I love your take on wrestling, man.
@kshinokevin10 жыл бұрын
awesome videos, Justin ! Keep them coming, man...
@BatsuKusanagi_RadDragon10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the JC. I see what it means to have your own move set cause for me from a street fight into an in ring wrestler I do have to agree with you. Have your own list.
@neiljkelleherjr349510 жыл бұрын
thank you again for another great video pj.
@samsonlovesyou10 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Justin. Great to see this realistic philosophy. Question for another video: You said that if you're the opening match, have an opening match, etc. So what does/should an opening mid-card match look like? What should they be trying to achieve? What about a mid-card? How should they be worked? How should they different from the main event?
@michaelyoung90873 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these Justin. You are a true professional!
@davenavarro275210 жыл бұрын
Damn Justin you got me hooked!! this like my 6th video straight lol keep it up!!
@polacopeter7310 жыл бұрын
Watch new episode tomorrow at noon.
@davecarsley8773
2 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow?!?! I'm so excited!!
@garyschwart
Жыл бұрын
Come back to this channel
@tonyjameson311110 жыл бұрын
What annoys me nowadays is the lack of the clean submission win. It seems to me that people think that by doing (insert generic face plant) that it looks flashy and adds to the finish. In most instances, it shouldn't work that way. If you work a slow methodical match, then it should never be finished with an out of the blue finishing move. To me, it is almost like breaking character which really disturbs me. You have always done a great job Justin Credible. Teach them the right way. :)
@PapaShawn7010 жыл бұрын
Awesome job Justin. Thank you Terry Funk for everything you have done for so many years.
@justinkeplinger6516 жыл бұрын
these videos r very informative
@vulcanworf74224 жыл бұрын
I agree with Justin, if your going to have an over the top match it ought to be second or third from the main event so your main event/show ends with the momentum.
@KBGiantsfan10 жыл бұрын
Great video dude
@handsonlywrestling18093 жыл бұрын
Well said! Justin speaking facts
@jlnxn5374
2 жыл бұрын
What he said in this video applies to modern times more than ever
@jprichardson879110 жыл бұрын
awesome video keep it up justin
@polacopeter7310 жыл бұрын
@polacopeter7310 жыл бұрын
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@striker1533810 жыл бұрын
Is it a fair thing to say that people need to focus more on getting the overall show over as opposed to just their match in particular?
@MaynardOwns3 жыл бұрын
I met you and a few other ecw guys at Chris chettis wedding back in the late 90s maybe i don’t remember exactly. And when I say I met you I was way too shy and I sent my grandmother over to get you guys to sign a napkin \m/
@armin388222 жыл бұрын
The booker should be in charge of this. Make sure people don't repeat themselves and every match has it's place on the card. Every match should work towards making the show complete.
@HashBandicoot3563 жыл бұрын
Modern wrestling is completely blind to this. Every other match is as many high spots as possible. It's good (maybe) for the participants in that match but not good for a card many times. Imagine a movie structured like that, just the most insane action you can think of all over the movie randomly, basically a Michael Bay movie.
@swimmerguy220910 жыл бұрын
A lot of fans actually enjoy technical wrestling matches.
@RickRifle00910 жыл бұрын
Watch NJPW's PPV, they did so good in this department
@Fausto_48413 жыл бұрын
Paul was all about hot shotting blood and high spots in ECW.
@yakosinnromero93986 жыл бұрын
We need to ALL know our place
@bear63198 жыл бұрын
What do you do if you can not see the matchs that are ahead of you?
@firstblood400
8 жыл бұрын
+Aaron Watson talk to your peers
@mattjones5531
4 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the matches and the guys in them, if you've got two similar match ups on the card then i'd ask to know what spots they plan on doing just in case you both come up with the same ideas, as he he said the same with finishes, if you know someone else has the same finishing move as you, speak with them about it.
@DudeBroBrony10 жыл бұрын
As the greenest guy where I am I like being early on the card, like 2nd or 3rd match. Crowds usually pumped up a bit from the opening, I have just enough time to go over my match a couple times and nail everything down in my head, and by the time my match is over I can watch the monitor and only miss 1 or 2 matches.
@samsonlovesyou10 жыл бұрын
And can these things be reconciled with the Shawn Michaels style philosophy of having the best match, wherever you are on the card. If so, how?
@kshinokevin10 жыл бұрын
"can you guys top this match" ? / one up-man ship... over booking (every match that has "tables ladders and chairs.") - that is gonna be too much (too much gimmick matches in one show or a major PPV). I agree with his "variety" concept. I like the old school "blue cage" match as being a main event - something basic (not Hell in the Cell or Elimination Chamber), back in the day.
@KareemHarper10 жыл бұрын
PREACH!
@polacopeter7310 жыл бұрын
Watch new episode
@attitudetv92
5 жыл бұрын
I love justin
@Gwildor20203 жыл бұрын
He has basically described AEW.
@kallistobone10 жыл бұрын
I got my Tetley tea, a joint prepared and I'm all ready to be learned. Take it away Mr. Credible.
@tonware10 жыл бұрын
As great as PWG is, they kinda have that problem that Justin mentioned as far as guys going out and doing the same spots and matches. Whenever I watch their DVD preview videos, almost every match has a dive to the outside and half of the matches have some sort of crazy sequence.I understand PWG's mentality.They want their guys to go out and have the best match they can with no limitations, but I wish their was some variety on their shows, rather than just a bunch a guys who can do cool flips.
@billanddougsuck4 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I don't know how people sit through a CZW death match tournament for instance. Only so much barbed wire and broken light tubes I can watch before it gets a bit ridiculous. I'd be so burnt out as a fan just watching an entire show of that. I respect that it has its niche though don't get me wrong.
@freddythomas938010 жыл бұрын
... or come up with a more original move than a freakin super kick
@mattjones5531
4 жыл бұрын
as much as i agree with you i must point out that he did have it before the Young Bucks came around and started whoring it out to the point where every man and there dog use it know, i guarantee if you to three independent promotions you'll find ten guys minimum who use that as a finisher now
@pizzahighfive2612
4 жыл бұрын
@@mattjones5531 actually this isn't true.. when Justin credible was doing super kick it was still a legit finishing move not used by everyone like the common punch.. Justin Credible and Shawn Michaels used em as legit finishers but even Tajiri and rikishi did em as mini finishers. BUT TODAY dude it's kinda annoying to see a super kick be nothing but a mere strike during a match... It's so annoying to see everyone and their dog doing it. That's totally a 2010s thing not a 90s thing
@mu11erandr313 жыл бұрын
Don't smash a Singapore cane around the opponent's head if Justin's on the show
@polacopeter7310 жыл бұрын
Watch
@Durakken10 жыл бұрын
It seems that the whole art of story telling in all wrestling is lost. It's really simple to plan these things because today we watch tv and have a general hour reset. If there is 9 matches the match strength should go something like this 1st match = 4th best match, 2nd match = 9th, 3rd = 3rd, 4th = 8th, 5th = 7th, 6th = 2nd, 7th = 6th, 8th = 4th, 9th = 1st. That way you open with a bang, and at every hour you have a high spot. If you don't do it like that people get bored or worn out.
@Miket-xo2mu7 жыл бұрын
if ur only option is to go out and watch the show wen the audience hasn't seen u yet or ur a heel who isn't suppost to be out near the fans then wat do u suggest for me to watch the show?? ideas plz
@KammyG
7 жыл бұрын
Usually sitting in the back should be good or standing in the back by urself.
@ridged.burleson8463
6 жыл бұрын
Miket1325 1325 Peak through the curtain or walk around behind where the fans sit.
@MichaelTaylor-ln9ll8 жыл бұрын
Aldo Montoya always knew his place on the card.....Curtain Jerker.
@Lifeofbass9 жыл бұрын
Apparently the Dudley Boyz dont agree with your view considering they did the exact same thing at Wrestlemania 17. It was the best match of the entire show in my opinion, I doubt we will ever see a tag team match of that caliber in in mainstream wrestling ever. Then again, WM17 is considered one of the all-round greatest WWE ppvs of all time... xD
@MrCMPUNKFAN1000
8 жыл бұрын
That match was the 3rd to last match on the card.
@TheBadGuy12753 жыл бұрын
This why almost no one makes money in the Circus that is now called wrestling! By no means the stuff that is out there now is not wrestling! Probably why they can't draw any interest! Sad very Sad!
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Paul's answer to you in ECW may be part of the reason it's not in business anymore. As I understand, EVERY wrestler on the card HELPS to sell tickets, ect so ALL involved can EAT, to keep it plain. Your advice in this video seems the BEST way to FEED EVERYONE as a whole. Very good video.
@jenisia3600
9 ай бұрын
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I tend to agree the old bookers used to have rules on their booking sheets. For example no one on the floor before the fourth match. No unauthorized use of gimmicks. No unauthorized use of blood. No unauthorized use of main event guys move etc. It was to keep main events matches special and not to overload it and not to desensitize a person and it worked because the first match was usually two underneath guys and they would do a twenty minute draw. That was done on purpose to give people time to settle in for the main event matches and be able to start on time!
Thanks for another great video. Even as a older guy its a great reminder. I wrestled a ton of opening matches & always felt my role was to get the crowd warmed up, excited & educate them that this Indy show was going to be legit. In shape guys who could wrestle & entertain. That was it, that was my role. It required me to be unselfish because everyone after me got the benefit, but that's why opening match is a great spot on a card. A good promotor doesn't put just anyone in the opener.
Justin is a smart guy. I saw him at an indy show 2 weeks ago in a match with Cody Hall, those 2 had the best match by far. Kliq 4 Life!
Very informative video Justin, I'm a big wrestling fan and never saw it that way. Congrats man!
These videos are completely insane how useful they could be. You're the man.
Steve Austin had many similar things to say on one of his podcasts. In his words, guys should "find a good spot, sit your ass down, and watch the other matches".
@stephonwilliams5232
3 жыл бұрын
My thing is what else are you doing to no be able to watch the matches
I've been to concerts where the opener was better than the headliner it don't happen often but it happens
@stephonwilliams5232
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
I myself wrestle and its a tough business to be in. Keep up the amazing work, these videos are awesome!
33 year veteran, The Wrestling Doctor Hal Lee from Pro Wrestling Extra and Pro Wrestling CSI did a vlog on this (called Know Your Role) exact subject in October 2012. Great advice!
love your vids man! keep giving us great tips
3:28-3:34 That's the problem with WWE. They keep showing the same match on free TV and then have it again at the PPV.
As a wrestling trainee I always look forward to your videos man ! Please keep them coming
I always look forward to your vids! Great stuff as always!
Yup. Have to understand, the fans are watching a full show, so it's important for the performers to keep things fresh and have variety. That doesn't mean the opening guys can't do anything cool - it just means they should try to avoid high spots that are likely to occur again later in that particular show. And all you have to do is communicate. "Hey, we're thinking about doing X in our match. Anybody else already doing that?" Easy.
Much respect to Justin credible for these videos. I have just discovered them. Was always one of my favorites in ECW more so than people like sabu and sandman even Tommy dreamer
Subbed. I've been watching your videos today and everything that you've said makes sense to me.
love these because i plan on getting into the wrestling and these are imformative..Thanks
I love your take on wrestling, man.
awesome videos, Justin ! Keep them coming, man...
Thanks for the JC. I see what it means to have your own move set cause for me from a street fight into an in ring wrestler I do have to agree with you. Have your own list.
thank you again for another great video pj.
Great stuff, Justin. Great to see this realistic philosophy. Question for another video: You said that if you're the opening match, have an opening match, etc. So what does/should an opening mid-card match look like? What should they be trying to achieve? What about a mid-card? How should they be worked? How should they different from the main event?
Thanks for doing these Justin. You are a true professional!
Damn Justin you got me hooked!! this like my 6th video straight lol keep it up!!
Watch new episode tomorrow at noon.
@davecarsley8773
2 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow?!?! I'm so excited!!
@garyschwart
Жыл бұрын
Come back to this channel
What annoys me nowadays is the lack of the clean submission win. It seems to me that people think that by doing (insert generic face plant) that it looks flashy and adds to the finish. In most instances, it shouldn't work that way. If you work a slow methodical match, then it should never be finished with an out of the blue finishing move. To me, it is almost like breaking character which really disturbs me. You have always done a great job Justin Credible. Teach them the right way. :)
Awesome job Justin. Thank you Terry Funk for everything you have done for so many years.
these videos r very informative
I agree with Justin, if your going to have an over the top match it ought to be second or third from the main event so your main event/show ends with the momentum.
Great video dude
Well said! Justin speaking facts
@jlnxn5374
2 жыл бұрын
What he said in this video applies to modern times more than ever
awesome video keep it up justin
Watch and share
Is it a fair thing to say that people need to focus more on getting the overall show over as opposed to just their match in particular?
I met you and a few other ecw guys at Chris chettis wedding back in the late 90s maybe i don’t remember exactly. And when I say I met you I was way too shy and I sent my grandmother over to get you guys to sign a napkin \m/
The booker should be in charge of this. Make sure people don't repeat themselves and every match has it's place on the card. Every match should work towards making the show complete.
Modern wrestling is completely blind to this. Every other match is as many high spots as possible. It's good (maybe) for the participants in that match but not good for a card many times. Imagine a movie structured like that, just the most insane action you can think of all over the movie randomly, basically a Michael Bay movie.
A lot of fans actually enjoy technical wrestling matches.
Watch NJPW's PPV, they did so good in this department
Paul was all about hot shotting blood and high spots in ECW.
We need to ALL know our place
What do you do if you can not see the matchs that are ahead of you?
@firstblood400
8 жыл бұрын
+Aaron Watson talk to your peers
@mattjones5531
4 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the matches and the guys in them, if you've got two similar match ups on the card then i'd ask to know what spots they plan on doing just in case you both come up with the same ideas, as he he said the same with finishes, if you know someone else has the same finishing move as you, speak with them about it.
As the greenest guy where I am I like being early on the card, like 2nd or 3rd match. Crowds usually pumped up a bit from the opening, I have just enough time to go over my match a couple times and nail everything down in my head, and by the time my match is over I can watch the monitor and only miss 1 or 2 matches.
And can these things be reconciled with the Shawn Michaels style philosophy of having the best match, wherever you are on the card. If so, how?
"can you guys top this match" ? / one up-man ship... over booking (every match that has "tables ladders and chairs.") - that is gonna be too much (too much gimmick matches in one show or a major PPV). I agree with his "variety" concept. I like the old school "blue cage" match as being a main event - something basic (not Hell in the Cell or Elimination Chamber), back in the day.
PREACH!
Watch new episode
@attitudetv92
5 жыл бұрын
I love justin
He has basically described AEW.
I got my Tetley tea, a joint prepared and I'm all ready to be learned. Take it away Mr. Credible.
As great as PWG is, they kinda have that problem that Justin mentioned as far as guys going out and doing the same spots and matches. Whenever I watch their DVD preview videos, almost every match has a dive to the outside and half of the matches have some sort of crazy sequence.I understand PWG's mentality.They want their guys to go out and have the best match they can with no limitations, but I wish their was some variety on their shows, rather than just a bunch a guys who can do cool flips.
For the life of me I don't know how people sit through a CZW death match tournament for instance. Only so much barbed wire and broken light tubes I can watch before it gets a bit ridiculous. I'd be so burnt out as a fan just watching an entire show of that. I respect that it has its niche though don't get me wrong.
... or come up with a more original move than a freakin super kick
@mattjones5531
4 жыл бұрын
as much as i agree with you i must point out that he did have it before the Young Bucks came around and started whoring it out to the point where every man and there dog use it know, i guarantee if you to three independent promotions you'll find ten guys minimum who use that as a finisher now
@pizzahighfive2612
4 жыл бұрын
@@mattjones5531 actually this isn't true.. when Justin credible was doing super kick it was still a legit finishing move not used by everyone like the common punch.. Justin Credible and Shawn Michaels used em as legit finishers but even Tajiri and rikishi did em as mini finishers. BUT TODAY dude it's kinda annoying to see a super kick be nothing but a mere strike during a match... It's so annoying to see everyone and their dog doing it. That's totally a 2010s thing not a 90s thing
Don't smash a Singapore cane around the opponent's head if Justin's on the show
Watch
It seems that the whole art of story telling in all wrestling is lost. It's really simple to plan these things because today we watch tv and have a general hour reset. If there is 9 matches the match strength should go something like this 1st match = 4th best match, 2nd match = 9th, 3rd = 3rd, 4th = 8th, 5th = 7th, 6th = 2nd, 7th = 6th, 8th = 4th, 9th = 1st. That way you open with a bang, and at every hour you have a high spot. If you don't do it like that people get bored or worn out.
if ur only option is to go out and watch the show wen the audience hasn't seen u yet or ur a heel who isn't suppost to be out near the fans then wat do u suggest for me to watch the show?? ideas plz
@KammyG
7 жыл бұрын
Usually sitting in the back should be good or standing in the back by urself.
@ridged.burleson8463
6 жыл бұрын
Miket1325 1325 Peak through the curtain or walk around behind where the fans sit.
Aldo Montoya always knew his place on the card.....Curtain Jerker.
Apparently the Dudley Boyz dont agree with your view considering they did the exact same thing at Wrestlemania 17. It was the best match of the entire show in my opinion, I doubt we will ever see a tag team match of that caliber in in mainstream wrestling ever. Then again, WM17 is considered one of the all-round greatest WWE ppvs of all time... xD
@MrCMPUNKFAN1000
8 жыл бұрын
That match was the 3rd to last match on the card.
This why almost no one makes money in the Circus that is now called wrestling! By no means the stuff that is out there now is not wrestling! Probably why they can't draw any interest! Sad very Sad!
Watch and share