Where's the part where Piers "destroys" the vegan?

@dannyarcher6370

10 ай бұрын

In the title.

@ninaainsbury813

10 ай бұрын

​@@dannyarcher6370😂😂😂

@Paul-ts5qw

10 ай бұрын

The carrot muncher destroyed himself by getting too emotional and triggered.

@r_l966

10 ай бұрын

​@@Paul-ts5qwpiers cudnt even address his study 😂 he literally had nothing on him other than trying to out shout him

@mrcherrytits

10 ай бұрын

No one got destroyed in this interview. I'm not on either side with this argument, see both sides. Everyone always thinks they won. It's childish.

-Joey "would you rather drink urine than eat a plant based diet?" -Piers "absolutely"

@Andrey-fx8mv

10 ай бұрын

In a desert without water. That's what Bear Grills does, not in the usual circumstances.

@memberofthewatchercouncil1738

10 ай бұрын

Meanwhile the audiences chanting "DO IT, DO IT, DO IT"

@user-kv4xt2oh3d

10 ай бұрын

@@memberofthewatchercouncil1738 😂😂😂

@jess293

10 ай бұрын

It's not even urine, it's the equivalent of breast milk.

@bebestfamily9181

10 ай бұрын

Why that statement even came out to?

“I’ve defended the bees for years “. 😂😂😂

@dionysusxyz

10 ай бұрын

Has a buzz to it

@tokelaublue

9 ай бұрын

😂 I died when Piers said that 😆

@user-qf9gn7bu7c

9 ай бұрын

😂😂

@holadea5704

6 ай бұрын

Such a sarcastic comment, love it.

@jack2626

4 ай бұрын

Hi love from Taiwan🇹🇼 3 years ago I just don’t understand Veganism/Animal Rights and think some protesters are to crazy(even now). I always get lost in those debates or fights😂 Then after watching “Dominion” (Narrated by Joaquin Phoenix and Sia) on KZread everything turns out so clear I really suggest it if you have the same Confusions Just Love & Respect here🙌❤

"Animals don't feel pain in the same way and don't understand death" When in front of a vegan: "THE PLANTS ARE SCREAMING"

@fortcastlevgn2368

4 ай бұрын

OH SHIIIIIIIET WELL SAID DAMMMM the contrast IS AMAZINGLY PUT in evidence,, fuck you gotta make a permanent picture meme and i want to save it (fkin yuotube wouldnt allow it here urgh

@fortcastlevgn2368

4 ай бұрын

prob one of the best comments in here sooo fkin new i never heard that argument before on that subject

„Joey when was the last time you laughed?“ „When you said bees are being murdered!“ 😂😂

@fryingpantheist_

10 ай бұрын

It just shows how much attention he pays to his "guests", joey was actually laughing throughout the whole thing and good job too as that was holding him back from jumping over the desk and throttling him.

@user-kr7pf7og3u

10 ай бұрын

He's quite hangry, isn't he?😂😂😂

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent

10 ай бұрын

@@user-kr7pf7og3u Piers? Yeah, all the cholesterol is gumming up the works, poor wee fella.

@mspwizzard7256

10 ай бұрын

@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent not really, Piers has actually taken quite a ok position on this show compared to what he was like before. Objectively hes right. but you have an pre-formed opinion of him so will always say that.

@personalcheeses8073

10 ай бұрын

⁠ That was fake laughter though it doesn’t count. Not like the belly laugh Joey gave me. 😂😂😂

Why does he think only vegans eat almonds?

@Failp0p

10 ай бұрын

coz its apparent that u vegans like almonds so much, that u replace it from cows milk

@assafshakked7988

10 ай бұрын

@@Failp0p as a vegan almond milk sucks. Oat and soy milks are much better

@TessavandieKaap

10 ай бұрын

@@Failp0pwow. You don’t know much at all, do you?

@KevinArantes

10 ай бұрын

@@Failp0p 2% of the world population is vegan. How much Almonds do you think we can consume? Same with avocados. What the hell is the bs argument lol

@KILLEMALLTWICE

10 ай бұрын

@@TessavandieKaap vegan females tend to have bad smells, and chronic mud butt. That's what we know now...

"I've supported the bees for years"😂😂

@deeptoot1453

10 ай бұрын

that killed me hahaha

@Jeff-ni2sz

4 ай бұрын

Child stole a comment hoping it gets likes 😭🤡 straight up embarrassment to your family

@Jeff-ni2sz

4 ай бұрын

@@project77977 9 days is what you had. Failed badly you have.

@okman9684

3 ай бұрын

​@@Jeff-ni2szdon't worry your day will come to shine my boy

Every time Pieres talks about bees I'm thinking: "Ahhhh Not the beeeess.... Ahhhhh my eyes" 😂

@donatasdilnikas8105

Ай бұрын

But u have to admit it hes right i dont tlak avout little animals rats insects wich we killed

I’m a meat eater and have sausages couple of times a week. Im not naive to what animals go through, but choose not to think about it. However when this vegan mentioned the pigs I actually looked up one of the many videos! The pigs are led on a conveyor belt and many already sense the danger of the gas chamber that takes in 2-3 pigs at a time. As they try to manoeuvre away from it..they are prodded in the ass with an cattle prod to force them inside. There was a camera inside the chamber too..and the screams are horrific..it’s not a quick death! All pork products are now off my menu! But it’s also made me think more about other meats too. Im just so used to eating meat I don’t know how I would make a transition to a purely vegetarian diet. But animals are used to make all sorts of products not just food. It’s made me think at least!

@lewisfromspain2915

10 ай бұрын

And in nature when lions or tigers eat little deers or zebras or monkeys or whatever, do you think they sing them a lullaby or something so they don't scream or don't get stressed when they are slowly eaten and torn apart. Or when snakes eat little rabbits. Or when a shark or a crocodile tears apart and drowns their prey? What do you call that, a nice party? Do you want to put headphones to the pigs with nice music so they don't hear the other pigs being slaughtered... would it be ok to you then? Or should we teach the pigs to scream in a less horrific way so you don't get so offended? And I'm going to tell you a little secret and I hope you don't kill yourself after learning this terrible fact: Humans even kill other Humans!!!!!! and not just for eating purposes, sometimes just for territorial dominance, for vengeance, for pleasure, for money... I hope it doesn't shock you too much! be strong! NOW that should make you think at least!!!!!

@its_rick_james_bich2575

10 ай бұрын

@@lewisfromspain2915 ok calm down..mr Lewis from Spain!! First off, I gave my viewpoint on something, and didn’t once lecture anyone else to stop eating meat! I’m well aware of how nature works you idiot! But human beings have more choices than a lion, a shark, or any other animal! Imagine going on rant that long and not having a point at the end of it!! I can imagine you get offended when people bring up the cruelty of bull fighting in Spain..and I bet your response is..”let me tell you a little secret..bulls hurt other animals too in the wild”🤦🏽‍♂️

@l.k836

10 ай бұрын

@@lewisfromspain2915 what point are you trying to make?

@pencilme1n

10 ай бұрын

Your thoughts, compassion and action are commendable.

@jamesrodgers91

10 ай бұрын

That's ace you've seen the footage and taken steps to avoid the products you mention. Hats off to you mate 👌 I did the same thing around 4 years ago having watched land of hope and glory (available on KZread) and went vegan straight off the bat. I would say take it slow and just change out meals a few times a week rather than going full vegan / vegetarian as you'll be so used to eating a certain way. Following pages like the save movement or activists like Earthling Ed as well as Joey Carbstrong will make the dietary decisions you make easier too. Hang in there and just try to be mindful of what goes into the production of the products you consume when next in the supermarket 👌

In what universe did Piers 'Destroy" Joey the vegan? I'm sorry but he lost...

@illyaedwards7188

10 ай бұрын

Piers won that one easily.

@drawnonmustache

10 ай бұрын

@@illyaedwards7188 nah

@turtleman8968

10 ай бұрын

bro didnt you read the title?

@r_l966

10 ай бұрын

​@@illyaedwards7188continuously saying "bee's get murdered" and not addressing the facts presented by joey. Lol , definitely

@brentondean2094

10 ай бұрын

Joey being a vegan destroyed himself

Swear Piers is gonna turn me into a vegan ffs hahahahahaah

@eduardoarty1228

9 ай бұрын

Nobody cares I eat a pound of meat every day sometimes almost 2 on my days off and I’ve been doing that since I’m 6 years old come from butchers family the more vegans better prices for meat 🥩

@csho6512

8 ай бұрын

Wouldn't changing because his opinion, make you weak, and easily swayed into things?

@cazzawazzadingdong5139

4 ай бұрын

@@eduardoarty1228 Wrong, because the more vegans the less the government will likely subsidise the costs that keep meat prices down. Vegans will no longer be accept taxes to subsidize animal exploitation. .

@EVLP98

3 ай бұрын

Go ahead and eat quinoa. More steak for the rest of us.

@anterolgac5367

3 ай бұрын

@@csho6512 bro I'm being ironic here, I'll never turn vegan for my own reasons. I was just trying to say that Piers couldn't even formulate 1 convincing argument in this debate

6:50 Joey wanted to say ''you're a clown'' 😂😂

@mixedmartialnutrition1746

2 ай бұрын

joey ex gangster turd strong is the king of clowns

I'm not a vegan, and I agree with Piers on quite a few things. That being said, this was very poor debating with his only ammunition being one article from the guardian about bees. The chef accepted her booking then did not provide her with food - she was not some irate woman who turned up to a meat restaurant demanding to be fed. I would be pissed off too if I were her - she is not nuts for being irritated or leaving a bad review and frankly Joey has a point about killing animals in cruel ways where they suffer, and I do find posing with a dead piglet as a joke pretty distasteful. In many ancient cultures even when you killed an animal you respected it and tried to ensure as little pain as possible.

@allandm

10 ай бұрын

Piers must know that there isn't a good argument to not be vegan, not if you say you are against animal cruelty... you either admit that u have no problem with harming and killing animals for taste pleasure or u try to come up with excuses maybe like 'bees! Bees! Bees!'

@benbennemans

10 ай бұрын

Very mature and balanced response. Thank you for posting it.

@clareeksteen7575

10 ай бұрын

Have to agree. Veganism is one debate Piers fails at miserably every time. Tired of the bee story already. I am not vegan either by the way.

@turtleman8968

10 ай бұрын

whats guardian?

@humantwotwentyone641

10 ай бұрын

I mean, restaurants really don't have to make whatever you want, especially if you don't tell them when you're coming? That woman is nuts. Piers is getting too annoying.

Piers made himself look like a fool. He is the one going mad here.

@Urko2005

10 ай бұрын

That Joey made himself look a militant fool for most people i think you will find.

@byankaree91

10 ай бұрын

Vegans are literally insufferable! The guy complaining was in a gang and after he left it. He joined the vegan cult and still admitted to dreaming of killing humans and babies. What a psycho!

@jakesabean

10 ай бұрын

@@AlexAlex-yf7yw he doesn’t eat it because he disagrees with it morally so obviously he’s going to advocate for people to do the same. If you disagreed with slavery in the 1700s would you have simply not bought a slave or would you have advocated for other people to also not keep slaves? It’s called being morally consistent

@jesusantoniobravohonorato1844

10 ай бұрын

​@@jakesabean Exactly on point!

@amefibrasil6058

10 ай бұрын

Joey is the best! He was respectful and presented reference to what his said, while Piers was rude and repeated his lies in a loud tone.

Why does piers keep denying what he said about the bees? They are not killed by pollination, rather by mites. It is not against veganism to eat almonds and avocados.

Not only vegans eat almonds and avocados fcol 😂

@3-methylindole730

8 ай бұрын

But the vegans are the ones who boast about animal rights. Meat eaters who eat almonds and avocado stand by what they do, they are not hypocrites. The vegans who eat that and still complain about meat and dairy consumers are ultimate hypocrites.

@drumnotatsujin

8 ай бұрын

Hitler and Mussolini drink water and breathe air. What's your point?

@Freya1412

7 ай бұрын

Yeah but only vegans virtue signal about saving animals when the food they choose to eat contributes to the mass extermination of many animals. Crop agriculture causes the mass extermination and displacement of so many animals at every single step of the process so vegans can have their salads. Those animals are just killed and not even consumed. At least meat eaters eat what was killed and aren't fake virtuous.

@Death-999

5 ай бұрын

But only vegans pretend to care about the suffering and death of animals.

@ruthsmith1694

2 ай бұрын

The point is when we know better we can be better. Its not about being perfect, its about causing the least amount of harm and suffering to innocent and defenceless beings. @@drumnotatsujin

You lost the argument today, Piers.

@markmorris7123

10 ай бұрын

How??? That dude proved his point..Acted like an angry beta

@amefibrasil6058

10 ай бұрын

As usual when talking to vegans! Meat consumption and animal exploitation are immoral and everybody knows it and uses irracional arguments to justify their cruelty!

@erykmocko2072

10 ай бұрын

@@lilnikki9146imagine saying „not” at the end of a sentence. What a spastic - not surprised youre defending his side 😂😂

@BDub2024

10 ай бұрын

No argument, he was just trying to antagonise the vegan to make a point that they are intolerant and angry. Joey got sucked in and was intolerant and angry. Didn't let the chef talk. But I agree I've seen better interviews.

@AaronVets

10 ай бұрын

@@BDub2024 🤡

Go Joey, Piers always goes back to almond milk and do you eat avacado questions. He's so limited.

@tinaleanne8230

10 ай бұрын

You all missed that actual argument and it is simple: If killing the pig is wrong then why isn't killing the bees wrong?

@Empathy4Animals411

10 ай бұрын

@@tinaleanne8230 Um, you missed the part where Joey proved vegans have NOTHING to do with "murdering bees" and while Piers does with his eating honey AND dead bodies of animals.

@glennbishopbishthemagish

10 ай бұрын

Apparently vegans like to ignore the thousands of insects and animals that are killed, or as vegans say- murdered, when land is cleared to grow crops that they buy at the supermarket. And the thousands of animals and insects that are killed with farm equipment every harvest season due to crop deaths. Science proved years ago that all plants contain toxic chemicals that plants use to defend themselves.

@tinaleanne8230

10 ай бұрын

@@glennbishopbishthemagish Give it up, the vegans have been trying the bash me all day because I made similar comments. Apparently it is only certain animals that have rights. Kinda like the BLM. One actually tried to claim that a pig is like a 3 year old human so I asked that if intelligence is the deciding factor then why they don't eat fish.

@tinaleanne8230

10 ай бұрын

@@jameshewitt8971 Well Mr. Hewitt, no animals other than humans can be murdered because the legal definition of 'murder' only applies to human beings. For your education: Commercial almond growers contract bee keepers to pollinate the almond trees. Once the pollination is determined to be completed, they spray insecticide to kill insects that are harmful to the trees BEFORE all the bees are gone. So, the bees are known collateral dead only for the farming of almonds. If to be vegan is against the killing of animals then why do vegans eat almonds or any agriculture that may use insecticide to kill animal life? *THAT* is the argument that none of you can comprehend.

When he’s saying about the mites, I’m sure the mites wouldn’t spread and cause such a problem if those billions of bees weren’t grouped in one place, does he not know infestations spread 😂

@ailanmcdonald6689

2 ай бұрын

As someone who worked as a beekeeper I can say that the impact of pollination on varroa levels was never noticeable. The fact of the matter is varroa gets out of hand when hives are not being checked on frequently, and during pollination we are constantly interacting with those hives and checking them.

Ian even gonna lie when the chief held up that pig painting I started dying🤣🤣

I’m not a vegan but Piers definately didnt “DESTORY” this vegan, piers is a little embarrassing here and has no idea what he’s talking about

@majormind1584

10 ай бұрын

He didn't come with any good arguments and he didn't explore pest control which kills billions of animals potentially comparable to meat production (depends on source, they vary a lot) he just came with his avocado/bees rhetoric which we've heard plenty of times before, the guy he was debating with had much more to say

@EugeneVerster

10 ай бұрын

you are wrong

@kylepope6805

10 ай бұрын

I think Piers kids will have an earful ready for him for Sunday dinner, they seem to keep him somewhat grounded

@juliankeren5731

10 ай бұрын

Piers is actually destroying himself-"do you love animal cruelty?" "Yeah",answering Piers..

@majormind1584

10 ай бұрын

@@EugeneVerster No I'm not

Lol, I don't think this went how Piers thinks it went.

@MrKanyeZ

10 ай бұрын

Oh it definitely did. The vegan was embarrassed

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

The vegan got triggered, he didn't win lol, were you watching the video, piers and the chef were calm. When you get angry you automatically lose the argument lol. 😂

@goat2503

10 ай бұрын

@@MrKanyeZ don’t think the vegan was embarrassed at all, he had scientific data supporting his claim, all Piers was able to quote was an article in a newspaper. Scientific data would generally take precedence over a newspaper article posted by a journalist in any other facet of life, so why would we take a newspaper article more seriously than a scientific published paper in this case? On the topic of bees, the vegan was actually correct, you can find the data yourself. And those bees come from the very industry in which vegans don’t support, the honey industry, which Piers does support. I’d be embarrassed if I was Piers on this one.

@aparajita2023

10 ай бұрын

@@emmahowells8334 yeah obviously, any person would get angry when the host doesn't even let you finish your sentence and ignores the actual data which you are holding up on his face. Joey presented facts and all piers could do was scream "BEES!!!"

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

@@aparajita2023 Yeah the same was happening to the chef, he didn't get angry tho. You do know that bees pollinate the flowers on fruit and vegetables which helps growth, so bees are just as important and that's what piers was putting across, ok not the best way to put that across, but never the less they're just as important, and still a living creature too and the vegan didn't think another living creature like bees were as important, only pigs and other animals we eat apparently, a life is a life is it not?.

Kenin Costner said it best " just how cute does a animal or other living thing have to be for these crazy people to care? "

@bm.6349

8 ай бұрын

lambs are really cute and people still don't care

@lospettro313

8 ай бұрын

​@bm.6349 Embryos are cute too, but vegans still don't care about them 😢

@patientl7552

8 ай бұрын

@@bm.6349that’s because they taste good, have you ever tried lamb? Oh and if you’re a vegan just remember humans are omnivorous animals, like a decent chunk of mammals at the top of their species

@shanewah9980

8 ай бұрын

@@patientl7552 They definitely haven't fer sure

Destroyed? I think Piers got obliterated by Joey.

@tgjurassic9229

5 ай бұрын

Not really cause joeys argument are so stupid. He calls the owner childish when the vegans are so ignorant and childish to 1 star review someone just because they don’t share their views of animals.

@hntrl8880

4 ай бұрын

How so?

@dountoothers

4 ай бұрын

What argument could justify the mass breading, torment and slaughter of farm animals for a reason that isn't necessary? It isn't hard to debate someone who argues for animal abuse. @@hntrl8880

@dontknowwhattocallmyself.5144

4 ай бұрын

His point was bees don’t get murdered from one article. How does that prove his point? (except that he likes pigs more apparently)

@dountoothers

4 ай бұрын

Because the claim that bee harm proves veganism is not valid is a logical fallacy -- the nirvana fallacy. You can also make a case that it's a strawman argument too, because the bee harm to which he's referring would not occur in a vegan world as bees would never be employed and exploited as laborers -- let alone killed. However, this whole thing is rather silly since, other than citing a vague article, Piers does not offer empirical evidence for this claim. Furthermore, if it were that case that bees were intentionally and avoidably harmed and exploited in the process of farming avocados and almonds there isn't a vegan alive who wouldn't be concerned. Finally, the example was given in bad faith since it's pretty obvious Piers doesn't give an actual fig. @@dontknowwhattocallmyself.5144

Talking over someone is not destroying them

@tinaleanne8230

10 ай бұрын

EXACTLY, Joey should shut up and listen to the argument: If killing the pig is wrong then why isn't killing the bees wrong?

@Veganarchy-Zetetic

10 ай бұрын

@@tinaleanne8230 Because killing the pig is 100% essential to eating their corpse. Killing bees is not. Vegans do not live on avocados and almonds, vegans might not even eat them at all. Animal abusers eat almonds and avocados too so it's not even a vegan problem is it. Insects might get squashed by me walking to work. Should I stay indoors forever? You and Piers are ridiculous. Same level of intellect that's for sure.

@alexk2967

10 ай бұрын

​@@tinaleanne8230if killing bees is wrong, then why isn't killing pigs wrong?

@ponnamy

10 ай бұрын

@@alexk2967 A valid question,

@avinashtyagi2

10 ай бұрын

​@@tinaleanne8230Vegans aren't killing bees, lol Parasites such as Mites are, lol

"I've defended the bees for years!" Piers Morgan Never in my life I heard him talking about bees until now

@STRIDwastaken

10 ай бұрын

he has defended them on multiple ocassions every single year

@fullotto8704

10 ай бұрын

@@STRIDwastaken he only defends the bees when he's trying to make a point of proving a vegan wrong, kinda sad really

@STRIDwastaken

10 ай бұрын

@@fullotto8704 so what are the vegans doing when talking about pigs in gas chambers?

@fullotto8704

10 ай бұрын

@@STRIDwastaken i think vegans are trying to say that pigs are more sentient than bees, so the screaming coming from these gas chambers is a fear response from an animal that's smart enough to process suffering, a bit like in nazi Germany when they gassed the poor Jewish folks

@robdee9341

10 ай бұрын

@@STRIDwastaken Is that a question or a statement ?

Just as a reminder to everyone. He banned vegans after a SINGLE complaint. This is from Perthnow, one of the first outlets to talk to chef Mountain after the ban about that one complaint: It seems the restaurant took the woman’s complaint to heart. “As for vegans/ vegetarians being a very low minority, especially in the northern burbs’ I try to accommodate everyone else,” their response started. “Thanks for your negative review… please feel free to share your s**tty experience and I look forward to not seeing you again. How very childish. You and all your vegan mates can all go and enjoy your dishes in another venue. You are now banned.” Mountain, a journeyman chef who has worked with the likes of Marco Pierre White, said part of her complaint was justified, but it “just didn’t stop there.” “Look, I said I would accommodate her, and I didn’t... but she made the complaint personal.” This is the most offensive part I could find in her complaint: “I think it’s incredibly important nowadays that restaurants can accommodate everyone and to not be able to have actual plant-based meals shows your shortcomings as a chef." How horrific, what a bitch, right?

@Burner01-my7vz

10 ай бұрын

Yes! Thank you. The first time there was any mention of the backlash,that I saw was in this video. No surprise but watching all the mental gymnastics and flat out denials has been frustrating .It has been good to see some non vegans speaking out,too. But seriously,how could you defend a meatflake like that who uses that as a profile pic!? As i said to someone below,using the corpse of a baby as a prop,whether to just wind up people who actually do have a moral compass or because he is genuinely not very psychologically stable,is in very poor taste,very disrespectful and morally repugnant.

@SteversChed

9 ай бұрын

@@Burner01-my7vz You use animal products from the same animals that normal people eat. Not very morally consistent.

I’m confused so this man told his customer that he would accommodate them. Waited until they entered his establishment to spend their money then said that he wouldn’t? I believe the customer was entitled to leave a bad review.🤷‍♂️

@rimantasri4578

Ай бұрын

As of my understanding the vegan customer asked when it is possible for the kitchen to make something vegan, but he/she actually came there (intentionally) on the day when the restaurant was not able to fulfill this wish.

@danielstevenson9593

Ай бұрын

@@rimantasri4578 that would make sense I could see why he would be upset then .

@matthewcooper4248

Ай бұрын

Except he said they change the menu every day, so if he didn't get notice that she was coming out wasn't his fault. Plus the point is she left one bad review so the veganazis swarmed like sharks to a frenzy and bombed him witg negative reviews that were ubwarranted since they hadn't been there.

Wouldn’t call this destroyed, vegan dude held up fine

@turtleman8968

10 ай бұрын

nah bees tho

@hakz795

10 ай бұрын

You must be as nuts as he is to come to such an absurd conclusion

@DailyWireThirdStringer

10 ай бұрын

​@@turtleman8968 Bees have a very rudimentary nervous system, and therefore we can be virtually certain that they do not suffer _nearly_ as much as a pig or a cow, even when they number in the billions. And most "meat-eaters" still enjoy almond or avacado-based products from time to time anyway.

@kb4432

10 ай бұрын

Piers should have asked about him about the widespread consumption of vegan meat alternatives. They are ultra processed and are among the most unhealthiest things currently being eaten by vegans

@1776_Garage

10 ай бұрын

No, he threw a fit like a child.

Cmon piers you can’t compare the guardian to long term studies

@mrSam3ooo

10 ай бұрын

😂

@tinaleanne8230

10 ай бұрын

Quoting a publication from your opponent has merit. And did you notice that Joey did not deny it was true? The long term study did not break it down to this level. One study of the overall cause of death of bees does not dismiss *THE FACT* of the number of bees killed to pollinate almonds [don't know about avocados]. This point trying to be made was: If you do not eat pigs because they are killed, why do you eat almonds because bees are killed to grow them.

@gurumage9555

10 ай бұрын

@@tinaleanne8230 Killing pigs for meats is intrinsic and unnecessary, as a source of nutrient. Spraying pesticides on farms is necessary but not intrinsic to eating plant food. Also, the publication was not "from the opponent", so the merit you're talking about is non existent. What matters more is the actual primary source info which Joey used that simply debunks piers Morgan BS arguments.

@tinaleanne8230

9 ай бұрын

@@gurumage9555 The publication is is a vegan publication so if you are vegan then it can be refereed to as 'your publication' in an argument where you could counter that you do not follow/believe that publication but he did not do that. So, you are conceding that killing animals for food is OK. I am not going to use your poor sentence structure against you but you stated: "Killing pigs for meats is intrinsic as a source of nutrient" which is exactly opposite of you stance. It was not debunked, it was ignored. The fact is that the killing of the bees are *known and planned* collateral damage in the commercial farming of the almonds. You will forever lose the debate unless you acknowledge that the killing of animals is required to feed the world. The next phase of the debate is that who decides what animals are OK to be killed. Be careful to not fall into the debate trap of only the ugly animals or not so smart animals can be killed. Debating is a science that requires careful thought. I will concede that the resources used to breed today's animal produce far exceeds the resources needed to produce a plant based diet. Here is an argument I use (there is no answer and is a debate trap): The beef and chicken in my freezer resulted in the creation of a life. Would it be better that the multitudes of animal life that has been created and is being created never had the opportunity of life?

@gurumage9555

9 ай бұрын

@@tinaleanne8230 For someone who roleplays as a debate expert your capicity for logical and critical thinking seems lacking. Firstly "vegan publication" isn't really a thing. Besides there is no authoritative source in which the vegan movement base its views on. It is not a religion. What matters here is the science and scientific publications, which clearly sides with vegans on a whole host of issues. Secondly pointing out that animal agriculture as we practice intrinsically requires the death and slaughtering of billions of sentient beings doesn't in any way go against my vegan philosphy. I'm just stating the nature of farming animals. And to answer your question. There is no moral obligation/imperative to create life, but there is moral obligation not to treat sentient beings inhumanely. Creating life in of itself has no value on its own, and creating life only to be subjected to cruel and inhumane treatment is anything but an "opportunity"

The amount of water required to make avocados is insane.

I am gluten-intolerant and i went to a restaurant that had nothing I could eat. I just went out without any fuzz, not everyone needs to cater to you. There are thousands of restaurants.

@thanasisgod8226

10 ай бұрын

I think the point was (from what I heard) that the woman contacted the chef in advance, twice, and while he said he would cater for her he ultimately overcharged her (30+$?) for a non substantial plate of some veggies. Isn't that underdelivering or even a broken promise? And then the deserved criticism she left lead to the ban of all Vegans. Yet, as Joey said, he didn't ban all fishers for his other bad review a fisher man left..

@sanseb17

10 ай бұрын

That s adult behaviour, instead of boycotting a mans life work in case of this man’s restaurant. He s responsable for the family off his staff, for kids...I saw a piece of the physical attack on this man s restaurant was pure criminal behaviour

@lordplague3555

10 ай бұрын

@@thanasisgod8226 Ah I missed that, if that is the case then that is just bad.

@klausbinks

6 ай бұрын

He stated that he was unable to cater to her when he said he would. He owns up, admits it, and said her review was justified. Then, the vegan community started leaving false reviews to try and ruin his business. That's why he banned all vegans.

@klausbinks

6 ай бұрын

​@@thanasisgod8226 He stated that he was unable to cater to her when he said he would. He owns up, admits it, and said her review was justified. Then, the vegan community started leaving false reviews to try and ruin his business. That's why he banned all vegans.

I'm not a vegan but it sounds like the chef needs to learn to handle criticism better and Piers needs to learn what the word destroys means.

@PunsaraSagarage

10 ай бұрын

American avocados also fully depend on bees’ pollination to produce fruit, so farmers have turned to migratory beekeeping as well to fill the void left by wild populations. U.S. farmers have become reliant upon the practice, but migratory beekeeping has been called exploitative and harmful to bees. CNN reported that commercial beekeeping may injure or kill bees and that transporting them to pollinate crops appears to negatively affect their health and lifespan. Because the honeybees are forced to gather pollen and nectar from a single, monoculture crop - the one they’ve been brought in to pollinate - they are deprived of their normal diet, which is more diverse and nourishing as it’s comprised of a variety of pollens and nectars, Scientific American reported. Scientific American added how getting shuttled from crop to crop and field to field across the country boomerangs the bees between feast and famine, especially once the blooms they were brought in to fertilize end. Plus, the artificial mass influx of bees guarantees spreading viruses, mites and fungi between the insects as they collide in midair and crawl over each other in their hives, Scientific American reported. According to CNN, some researchers argue that this explains why so many bees die each winter, and even why entire hives suddenly die off in a phenomenon called colony collapse disorder.

@GM-db4bv

10 ай бұрын

it's not "criticism", it's lunatic vegans mobbing on someone to hurt his business. Vegans are the worst.

@kyusha5122

10 ай бұрын

i can tell he can definitely handle criticism, he's been a chef for 30 years. if the criticism is about the taste, the quality, the freshness of ingredients that are being used then its fine. but these toxic vegans are leaving nonsense comments/reviews about the restaurant.

@sambaines2

10 ай бұрын

@@BobbyT-yj1cw What comments have led you to falsely believe me to be a vegan?

@bereal6590

10 ай бұрын

@@sambaines2 Morgan is a shock jock, I've never met anyone who is vegetarian or vegan who Bangs on about their diet! It's always ppl like Morgan and meat eaters that go on about it. I'm vegetarian almost vegan and I didn't know about almonds. Now I do I don't eat any almonds anymore and I check origin or avocados. I'm sick of Morgan stoking wars

Joey won this debate, you can see how Piers is trying to hide his anger and annoyance but his face speaks volumes. Turning to fake laughter to try to win is very immature.

@EvenTheDogAgrees

10 ай бұрын

Nobody won this debate, they all behaved like twats. The vegan didn't win, he wasn't even doing particularly well here. He lost it immediately, very agitated, very hotheaded, which completely invalidated anything he had to say. Not that anyone would get a chance to hear what exactly he had to say, as Piers is doing his usual "I'm going to talk over everyone and not let them finish" shtick that demonstrates what his show is really all about: manufacturing drama so more viewers tune in. And the restaurant owner came across as a bit oversensitive and petty. Although, if what he says is true, that he got review bombed over this one negative experience, I kinda understand where he's coming from. But he did behave kind of immature during this interview. Also, you mention Piers' fake laughter. Which I hadn't even noticed, but perhaps that's because I've been desensitised to it on account of this being the third time I see this guy "debate". But Joey was doing the same, so yeah...

@EugeneVerster

10 ай бұрын

nope

@dil3762

10 ай бұрын

@@EvenTheDogAgrees I understand what you mean but Joey was the only one who brought evidence and was trying to have a debate on a subject that piers constantly brings up when debating vegans. When someone actually finally answered the question Piers completely ignored it and kept quoting an article that clearly was misleading. Piers does not like vegan activists and he doesn’t care what you have to say if that is who you are, no matter how evidence based what they say is. For a person who constantly criticizes people for being hypocrites he sure does a poor job proving he is not. The evidence was in his face and he ignored it.

@EvenTheDogAgrees

10 ай бұрын

@@dil3762 I don't think it's possible to have an actual debate with Piers, TBH. So if I were Joey, I would have politely declined. Nothing good could've come out of it anyway. That said, they all acted like children here. Joey included. Even if he was, as you rightfully point out, the only one who at least had the foresight to come prepared with documentation to support their case. At least he put in the effort, I'll give him that.

@KernowFay

10 ай бұрын

No he didn't. Couldn't even control himself. And won't listen to others.

I’m vegan, and I don’t eat avocados, honey, or almonds. Next.

@shubhamlele5395

7 ай бұрын

you are not every vegan are you big girl?

Calls it "childish behavior" but he can not get his point across without yelling or having tears in his eyes. Hmm

@Burner01-my7vz

9 ай бұрын

Yes,piers is somewhat frustrating .

I'm a meat eater but the vegan man made Morgan look like a fool going on about bees but ignoring other animals being killed.

@maxxdhaha

10 ай бұрын

go vegan

@FullOnMetalHead1995

10 ай бұрын

​@@maxxdhahano, stop animal cruelty

@daimaoza832

10 ай бұрын

@@FullOnMetalHead1995food is food nobody gives a fuck…

@Luke73195

10 ай бұрын

@@maxxdhaha No, learn that killing animals is fundamental in nature. You don't really like nature otherwise.

@ryan9166

10 ай бұрын

@@Luke73195 Breeding billions and billions of animals into existence every year, just to slaughter them at a mere fraction of their life span is not natural

We had a bee company that pollinated avocados and billions did not die. And last time I looked more meat eaters eat avocados and almonds than vegans do.

@pizzamozzarella8639

10 ай бұрын

perhaps because meat eaters are a much larger group than vegans and also the bee dying argument does not apply to meat eaters because they dont attempt to act on a moral compass when it comes to eating food

@Osc1llateW1ldly

10 ай бұрын

@@pizzamozzarella8639 Are you against animal cruelty?

@BDub2024

10 ай бұрын

Vegans are in absolute minority, so of course 99% of the population eat more avocados and almonds.

@BDub2024

10 ай бұрын

He made a valid comment on avocados and almonds. But Piers was doing it mainly to get the vegan guy on the wrong foot. It kinds of work because the vegan acted like a twit screaming while frantically waving a sheet. A poor advertisement for veganism for sure. I wanted to hear from the chef though.

@Osc1llateW1ldly

10 ай бұрын

@@BDub2024 the chef who says that is against animal cruelty while having a profile photo with a dead pig? Is that the chef you meant? And what exactly did you wanna hear from someone like that?

I pay that "debate" to Joey via technical knockout. Well done, mate. Also, if you ever want to know what Piers Morgan's kryptonite is, mention Meghan Markle. At least then you have a chance of winning the debate.

Pigs are gased in chambers an scream to death 😢that breaks my heart

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent

10 ай бұрын

The gas only renders them unconscious. Their throats are slit thereafter...hopefully before they wake up but not always. Please go vegan.

@imperatorbaydonious3666

8 ай бұрын

Wait until you see the evil in the rest of the world softcock.

@Bear-Cohiba-1966

4 ай бұрын

They don’t

@ohhellno8759

4 ай бұрын

GG

@micahmorton

3 ай бұрын

Prove it. @@Bear-Cohiba-1966

I'm not a vegan, and I like Piers. But I feel like this "debate" was pretty one-sided. Joey tried to discuss an official U.S. statistical report and he was dismissed off-hand. Joey kept getting cut-off and his points weren't even discussed, they were just dismissed. This wasn't much of a debate.

@halloweenville1

10 ай бұрын

Because Piers realises "There is no debate" These people are activists, plain and simple. No matter what reports they have, no matter what garb they speak, the moment you give them airtime, you have already proved them wrong withing 2 seconds. Piers has been doing this job for decades, he knows where the end result is before it starts. Please educate your namby pamby self out of your stupidity. HUMANS ARE OMNIVORES. Deal with it, move on, no debate.

@alexkaapa

10 ай бұрын

this is how debates about veganism very often are handled by non-vegans. and people wonder why we're so annoyed

@bibekrayamajhi7529

10 ай бұрын

​@@alexkaapa why do you vegans feel entitled to go to a normal restaurants and get a vegan meal ?? the world has been eating animal meats for millennia's and suddenly a minor group called vegans got introduced 10, 15 years ago. why the fuck do you expect the world to understand you? you eat your plant in peace and let us eat our animal meat in peace. you do you but stop trying to force your agenda on others who doesn't want to be part of your craziness. LGTV group and Vegan group are the consequences of the internet and woke culture.

@eucmike

10 ай бұрын

@@alexkaapa Stop pushing your Vegan view on people! We don't care!

@lisajel52

10 ай бұрын

Joey got plenty of time to speak, even spoke over the other two quite often.

i’m not even vegan but piers and that chef were insufferable in this interview

@PerryPlatt

10 ай бұрын

All three of them were, goodness. That was hard to watch. 😂

@charliesmith_

10 ай бұрын

Boring as f.

@lewisfromspain2915

10 ай бұрын

And how about the insufferable vegan trying to show a video of a pig being slaughtered?

@Poetessa2

10 ай бұрын

100% He acted really badly, I've never seen him talk over someone this much and just refuse to let a guest speak. Not impressed!

In as much as Piers is an interviewer you gotta give your visitors a chance to talk instead of punching down the guys. i think all his interviews are just him telling the other party his opinion regardless of what they are trying to say or explain

@leflopjames5628

8 ай бұрын

You sound Hangry. Have a burger.

Piers Morgan saying he destroyed the guy Well let people be the judge of that

@shanewah9980

8 ай бұрын

He did, the video already showed the actions and language.

I think Piers actually got destroyed in this one

@Idkchangethislater

10 ай бұрын

Bloody guy disproved statistics by saying " I read it in the guardian " what type of logic is that ?

@robinhood6143

10 ай бұрын

he did

@dumbo701

10 ай бұрын

@@Idkchangethislater bro surely you cant be this stupid, you can bend statistics however you want. ignore relevant areas that are critical to the truth etc.. jesus people in this day and age will believe just about anything 😅

@illyaedwards7188

10 ай бұрын

Piers won this one easily.

@user-ti9hp4je9i

10 ай бұрын

@@Idkchangethislaterthe irony is clearly lost on you…

I wish Morgan would let his guests finish their arguments before presenting his.

@ageorgiev89

10 ай бұрын

To be fair his guests usually have terrible arguments or just factually untrue. If you look most of his interviews he let a lot of them finish their arguments

@Ray-vx9vy

10 ай бұрын

Thats the point... Big braindead Piers doesnt have any valid arguments, so he just shouts the same point over and over whilst dismissing hardened evidence if the face of debate. Childish and unprofessional behaviour.

@nay.sen20

10 ай бұрын

@@ageorgiev89 those who disagree with piers, he doesn't let them speak.

@ageorgiev89

10 ай бұрын

@nay.sen20 if you listen closely you will see that they ignore his questions

@nay.sen20

10 ай бұрын

@@ageorgiev89 Which question in this video was ignored? Piers asked a question & when Joey started to reply, he kept interrupting. Not even willing to listen & understand.

30% of bees are killed to make almond milk 😂😂

I just read the report Joey had, it's 1000% correct. Piers just hates to lose. Bees die from the pesticides not from the making of almonds.

@MG-qf9gx

10 ай бұрын

It’s the literally same thing lol? The use of Pesticides on the flowering tree is what kills the bees… Piers was not wrong

@zfi3142

10 ай бұрын

Did you read what piers Said? 50 billion bees died to make almond milk.

@tylerj7298

9 ай бұрын

@@zfi3142 that’s not true.

@losnamerales3403

9 ай бұрын

Vegans still do more damage with avocados though 😂 and I've always known this as I grew up eating them to know they are not native to the UK and are imported via plane, vegans seem to love them though and won't ever denounce them for the damage they do from the sharp increase of western world vegans consumption of them, vegans talk about animal cruelty but never do the rest of the math, like how even if we freed all the animals and all turned vegan we basically will end up having to kill animals for no reason but control their numbers and the negative impact that huge influx of uncontrolled wild breeding and the rotting animal carcuses everywhere would have

YOU'RE THE ONE WHO GOT DESTROYED HERE

@alexbenjii

10 ай бұрын

How ..he basically exposed the hypocrisy of Vegans , they don't give a shi about insects ..they kill mosquitos and cockroaches but talk about animal cruelty

@justsomeguywithoutamustach7088

10 ай бұрын

Delusional aren't you

This discrimination is accepted? But apply that theory to other cultures and it wouldnt be allowed. Shocking

@JustA60

10 ай бұрын

Muslims for example don't roast pig shops for not being halal, they just don't eat there.

@JohnDuppleingham

10 ай бұрын

Bwhahaha being vegan isn't like being black. You can't poise this as discrimination. If he doesn't want to cook you plant food, he doesn't have to and that's his right. Entitled clowns like you nowadays never fail to make me laugh.

@M_C_O.G73

10 ай бұрын

What discrimination and by who??

@mspwizzard7256

10 ай бұрын

I have something that you might notve heard about but its very discriminatory to anyone who likes meat, theyre called all-vegan restaraunts

@m3talh3ad18

10 ай бұрын

​@@mspwizzard7256 false. all vegan restaurants don't discriminate anyone.

Aussie dude seems to have found peace in his life

@cartergirl3of3

5 ай бұрын

He has. Because he is centered around a cause greater then himself. Imagine spending all your qaking hours defending the innocent and abused. Thats Godly shit, mate.

@Nick-yn2uz

3 ай бұрын

Purpose yes, he has

@oofogman420oo2

2 ай бұрын

Yup he found peace going vegan and still being part of the mass slaughter of animals from the huge amounts of pesticides sprayed on their food. Hypocrite

So let me get this straight. The argument goes as follows: 1. The industrial production of almonds and avocados is harmful to bee populations. 2. The small proportion of the world that is vegan will perhaps during the course of consuming their plant-based diet, on occasion, consume almonds and avocados. 3. The rest of the world, who make up the vast majority, by orders of magnitude, of almond and avocado consumers can be excused of moral culpability for these harmful industrial farming practices. 4. Trying to reduce animal suffering by not participating in an industry which raises the vast majority of its creatures in unspeakable factory farming conditions, to be slaughtered in inhumane ways…..is a bad thing….. because……bees. 5. It’s not possible to be opposed to farming practices which harm bees AND cruel farming practices which harm creatures with much higher levels of sentience. 6. Bees. 7. Animal cruelty is bad. I’m 100% against it. Except in the case of food production, in which case, it’s a shame but needs must. 8. Bees. 9. Bacon. Yum. Well done Piers. Knocked it out of the park.

@J.D.Mc.

10 ай бұрын

BACON! 🤤👍🏻

@mazi2646

10 ай бұрын

Yes Pierce loves the appeal to hypocrisy because he's a moron.

@charliejb1747

10 ай бұрын

👍

@pepperpig649

10 ай бұрын

Mmm I love bacon that gonna give me cancer in 20 years 😰😰🤤🤤

@elementulzero

10 ай бұрын

actually the bee problem is just a little addition to the almond and avocado issue, the real problem is the amount of water needed + the cartels and exploitation of the workforce , so even if Piers motives are just a fraction of the problem , avocado and almond production for the global population should not exist

I’m far from a vegan I eat more like dr paul saladino but I gotta say Piers and the other gentleman didn’t win this debate.

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

Who was angry and triggered, wasn't piers or the chef, I'd say the vegan lost lol. 😂

@ClosedEyeVisualisations

10 ай бұрын

@@emmahowells8334 Yeah most people would be angry too if they were being cut off when they are providing evidence. He got spoken over during each point he made. Triggered is something people say too frequently, must be a tik tok thing or something, because its far overused, its more of an insult if anything because its rarely used appropriately anymore. And no im not a vegan AT ALL. I just understand his point and im sick of the mental left and right to everything, all things are nuanced. And there is an issue of suffering here to eventually be significantly addressed.

@michiel4686

10 ай бұрын

No one won this tbh

@PauIdenino

10 ай бұрын

@@emmahowells8334 Appeal to emotion

@Ahmedahmed-mi8dr

10 ай бұрын

Joey was lying about the bees killing thing. Sadly it's true that millions of bees die during the process and it's kind of hypocrisy to deny facts like this.

PIERS MORGAN! Get Earthling Ed on your show, it would be incredible! Everyone like this comment if you agree ;)

Grab that water from a vegan guy, it's fish home and he's drinking it.😂😂

@anushrikshatriya

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

Piers, this is not your best work. You were out debated very soundly. Your guest was well prepared and I’m afraid that you weren’t. Quoting the guardian is like using Wikipedia in a bibliography.

@AlexEMF

10 ай бұрын

I googled it. Piers is right about that. Vegans that say they care about animals are just a bunch of hypocrites.

@fauzo

10 ай бұрын

U don’t win by being angry like a spoilt brat. Pierce and the chef able to maintain his composure and the vegan guest is not.

@tinaleanne8230

10 ай бұрын

But quoting a publication from your opponent has merit. And did you notice that Joey did not deny it was true?

@radiocorrective

10 ай бұрын

@@tinaleanne8230 Because he didn't have to. If you listen closely, you'll hear him explain how the honey industry is responsible for this exploitation and how the bees die from natural causes most of all, apart from 7%.

@cultserpent4501

10 ай бұрын

@@tinaleanne8230 did you manage to listen to joey at all? cause what you said proves you didnt hear joeys answer, maybe piers interrupting him non stop was a good reason for you to not hear what joey said 🤣😂

Piers lost badly here.

@lumpystilskin5367

10 ай бұрын

Nope he just expose the vegan guy on how he acts

@tomcoop9750

10 ай бұрын

@@lumpystilskin5367 nope. Piers interrupted him and ignored his statistics.

For several years now I have been following the science around bees and what we can do to help. Like planting Sun Flowers and other flowers / weeds in our garden etc. Anyway ... I saw a documentary about bees and almonds in California. You're 100% right about the bees. Humans don't need to eat almonds and I certainly don't eat them as part of my Keto lifestyle. After the Almonds and Avocados you speak of what about the amount of tinned produce that vegans eat... no pollution making tinned products eh.

@Mandalorian92

5 ай бұрын

Some of us do. I can't have dairy, soy, or oat milk because of my stomach, so I stick with almond milk. I've seen other milk alternatives, but they can be around double the price, and it doesn't fit in my budget.

@cookiewild

2 ай бұрын

I drink oat milk, I don’t eat almonds at all and I’m a vegan. Meat eaters eat avocados and almonds too. Atleast vegans aren’t paying for 80 billion animals to be killed every year.

@cookiewild

2 ай бұрын

I drink oat milk, I don’t eat almonds at all and I’m a vegan. Meat eaters eat avocados and almonds too. Atleast vegans aren’t paying for 80 billion animals to be killed every year.

@cookiewild

2 ай бұрын

I drink oat milk, I don’t eat almonds at all and I’m a vegan. Meat eaters eat avocados and almonds too. Atleast vegans aren’t paying for 80 billion animals to be killed every year.

@cookiewild

2 ай бұрын

I drink oat milk, I don’t eat almonds at all and I’m a vegan. Meat eaters eat avocados and almonds too. Atleast vegans aren’t paying for 80 billion animals to be killed every year.

These types always hold contradictory ideas like a chiken egg has personhood, but a human en vitro doesn't.

As a non-vegan, Piers got smoked today by a vegan.

@sausageman4706

10 ай бұрын

You're definitely a vegan mate lol otherwise why mention it?

@dalegreening6476

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think he did. This vegan got really angry and Piers stayed cool and wrapped him up 😆😆

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

​@@sausageman4706Exactly lol. 😂

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

​@@dalegreening6476indeed he did, spot on lol. 👌

@dalegreening6476

10 ай бұрын

@@emmahowells8334 thanks 👍🏼

Richard Dawkins: "I would like everybody to be a vegetarian... In 100 or 200 years time, we may look back on the way we treated animals today as something like we today look back on the way our forefathers treated slaves."

@lukej7283

10 ай бұрын

Depends on the race of the slave, certain races belong as slaves and cannot actually be trusted with freedom. Same with animals, some animals are meant to be food for other animals, that's just the nature of things. I feel absolutely no guilt over slavery and I fully believe certain races should be forced to work, should they be treated poorly? Absolutely not! But forced to work? Absolutely yes.

@robdee9341

10 ай бұрын

Bur vegetarianism is also very cruel. I saw the interview with Richard Dawkins where PM didn't interrupt or talk over him. He should show Joey the same respect..

@robdee9341

10 ай бұрын

@@lukej7283 Speachless.......

@RisingSimba

10 ай бұрын

​@@lukej7283Damn, you a True racist dude😂 Just admit you racist to blacks and want to rape them, take totally advantage of them. But you racist LOVE "Rock and Roll" which come from black music.

@nay.sen20

10 ай бұрын

@@lukej7283 Another race decides u should be forced to work. Not bad.

“Joey you were literally in a gang” I’m fukkin dead 💀

8:06 Him- "i am 100% against animaI crueIty AIso him- *eats and serves the murderd animaIs

@SteversChed

7 күн бұрын

"Murder" is illegal and uniquely human. Livestock aren't human. You're making things up. There is a difference between cruelty and animal farming. Being against one doesn't mean you can't be for the other. Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?

Pierce: Bees get murdered. Bees get murdered. Bees get murdered. Chef: vegans are quick to throw the term murder around 🤡

@jawsjaws4018

10 ай бұрын

He was saying bees get murdered because the whole point of vegan arguments is that animals get murdered which they say is wrong but yet doesn't matter when it's other smaller beings for vegans food. Piers was pointing out the hypocrosy by saying bees get murdered. That's obvious to anyone and an easy point to understand, but obviously not for you! How are you this stuipid?

@moe5201

10 ай бұрын

hes pointing out the irony

@robdee9341

10 ай бұрын

Chef "I'm 100% against animal cruelty" But he pays other people to be cruel to animals !!!!

@joeycmichael3206

10 ай бұрын

The only reason Piers was saying it was to point out the hypocrisy of vegans, not because he actually thinks bees are "murdered" he was just using the vegans slogan against them. They claim killing an animal is murder. following that logic then they are all mass murderers as well.

@tazuk01

10 ай бұрын

Vegan hypocrites

I’m sorry piers but your debating sounds like the kind of debates my little brother used to have with my mom about eating sweets 💀😂

@neilduarte1986

10 ай бұрын

If your mother is debating your little brother, then your mother needs help lol

@Empathy4Animals411

10 ай бұрын

But bees get murdered, bees get murdered, bees get murdered, bees get murdered, bees get murdered. What, you didn't find that to be a brilliant argument?

@Zanne11

10 ай бұрын

Agreed! Incredibly immature.

@joshpettersen5560

10 ай бұрын

Sweets are delicious like meat. Reasonable debate Id say....

@cultserpent4501

10 ай бұрын

​@@joshpettersen5560 FINALLY found someone to agree with! Thats what im saying to them bro! I 100% agree with you. I always say : if human meat is so delicious, what is there to debate about bro? I wanna eat human meat, why are you all trying to debate me for it? Meat is delicious but when it comes to human, dog and cat meat ITS GLORIOUS, so why are they all trying to debate me that its morally wrong to eat human meat? There are is no morals and ethics when it comes to what you eat, wear, do in your daily life. If something tastes delicious you eat it, if something look gorgeous you wear it, if some girl is sexy on the street you grab her and r*ape her, whats all about that "not being moral" boring stuff that these people talk about right? Im so happy we both agree on that!

Evidentally Veganism popularity is in the basement with vegan manufacturers and businesses going bust, left right and centre and the argument for a balanced diet is already won. Game over !

I love almonds and on the surface they seem like an eco friendly alternative to some animal based products. The sad truth is they come at a huge cost to the environment from the excess groundwater usage and pesticides needed to grow them. Whole ecosystems are being destroyed. A single almond needs approximately 12 litres of water to grow. We all love cotton as well, but it's another crop that's water hungry and needs vast amounts of pesticides to remain viable.

@Burner01-my7vz

10 ай бұрын

You are right almonds do take a lot of water,however all plant milks are more environmentally friendly than cows milk,including almond milk. The website "Our world in data" is used as a teaching resource at Harvard, Oxford, MIT etc and has a huge amount of info on the impacts of food choices on the planet. Pertinent to the above comment is the page titled "Dairy vs. plant-based milk: what are the environmental impacts" which has a breakdown of the effects of a range of milks on climate change across Land use,Greenhouse gas emissions, Freshwater use and Eutrophication. All the research shows that dairy overwhelmingly exceeds the others, including soy and almond. Also a plant based diet in no way requires almonds in any form. And,most importantly plant milks do not involve the hideous rights violations and cruelty that all animal products require. Have a look at Dominion,a documentary that came out in 2018,or even just the trailer Dominion we will rise, it's under 5 minutes. They will give you a good idea of what you are responsible for if you buy any products that are animal based, who pays the true price and how.

PIERS, YOU JUST LOST TO A VEGAN LOL

@Aitch2020

10 ай бұрын

He's lost many times before. Got booted out of cnn and America for being a BSing pompous toff git

@allandm

10 ай бұрын

He didn't lose harder because he is always constantly interrupting, there's no good argument against veganism apart from 'i dont care about harming animals for my own taste pleasure'. He doesn't want to say that so he just shouts 'bees bees bees' cuz there's literally nothing else he could think of

@zachattack9801

10 ай бұрын

Nah

@pepperpig649

10 ай бұрын

Piers sold his soul for money and attention and does not care for the outcome of the debate intellectually. He literally does it on purpose because I know he is not that dumb.

@Aitch2020

10 ай бұрын

@@pepperpig649 I agree. He's become a master bullshitter. He's obviously on the payroll of the royal family and maybe MI5. He is so one sided regarding the Russian Ukraine war. It seems like he's a propaganda machine for whoever slips him money.

Bro, let your guests speak 😂

@Pakinov

10 ай бұрын

You can't loose if you don't let the other guy speak. He knows if he doesn't do this he will get destroyed

@codysample6884

10 ай бұрын

They speak nonsense though lmao 😂

@Vermin82

10 ай бұрын

Even if you're vegan, you don't want this turd to speak for you. How desperate are you people?

Should make a movie "PIERS THE GUARDIAN OF THE BEES" 😂

@sweetmask2744

5 ай бұрын

gangsta is a guardian of cows and chickens ?

Calves are taken from their mothers to be slaughtered, when they are so young they cannot walk. What does that say about people? Piers Morgan? John Mountain?

Wrong title there. It literally happened the opposite.

@ruiiziinhoo

10 ай бұрын

Factos 👍🏻

@MrKanyeZ

10 ай бұрын

What???😂😂😂

@dumbo701

10 ай бұрын

i will say piers or that restaurant guy had awful arguments but that other bloke destroyed himself by being a complete asshat who wouldn't shut up

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

Who's getting triggered and angry, it wasn't piers or the chef, so I say the vegan lost by getting angry.

@ruiiziinhoo

10 ай бұрын

@@emmahowells8334 It was 2 vs 1 and Joey still won this. Whoever thinks otherwise is just wrong, pure facts

You cant be against animal cruelty if you eat them 🌱

@McInna

10 ай бұрын

@@TB-tc5zb denial is a terrible trait

@McInna

10 ай бұрын

@@TB-tc5zb you’re funny, humane way 😂 how compassionate of you to kill an animal for taste, it’s also funny you think animals either gassed, shot, or throat slit is kind to animals 🤦‍♂️ i must of missed the part where animals enjoy to be on our plates 👍🏼 Killing any animal is cruel, if it was a dog or cat you’d be shouting out cruelty, the same goes for all species

@glennbishopbishthemagish

10 ай бұрын

A typical vegan propaganda post, again laughable.

@glennbishopbishthemagish

10 ай бұрын

@@McInna Your funny in a vegan way😆😆😆😆 when there IS proven science that plants feel pain. And all plants contain toxic chemicals that plants use to defend themselves from being eaten.😆😆😆😆😆

@NullifidianYT

10 ай бұрын

@@McInna In china they eat dogs & it fine with me.

Piers got his arse kicked severely and made a fool of himself.

@hongliu8459

2 ай бұрын

I spy a hangry vegan

Ironic ex gang getting pissed because a picture of a pig. Tell him most of Asian countries they still eat dogs and cats as delicacies.

piers calling bees 'the little guys' always ends me 😂

@orielgb

10 ай бұрын

Bees are primarily female: only the drones are male, and only used to fertilise the queen bee! They are kicked out by the females in the Autumn as if you don't work you don't eat in a Bee Hive! The workers make sure that the honey stores are not eaten by the lazy Drones!

@user-he2ou2ex2f

10 ай бұрын

@@orielgb guys covers girls and boys

@EvenTheDogAgrees

10 ай бұрын

@@user-he2ou2ex2f Not always. See "Dude, where's my car?" 😂

@Allsportssss

10 ай бұрын

@@orielgbcorrect, i just done a bee keeping course lol

@BDub2024

10 ай бұрын

It was great viewing meant to aggravate the vegan whacko. But unfortunately annoyed him too much so he just shouted over everyone. So poor tv. We want to see whackos acting crazy, but not that crazy.

Piers, when presented with a study, dismissed it as nothing and continued to interrupt Joey over and over. Why does he even invite vegans onto his show if he is just going to ignore everything they say and interrupt them constantly?

@jonnybyrne989

10 ай бұрын

In this case he's pointing out your man's utter hypocrisy, if I showed up for school back in the day with one article to prove a point, my teacher would beat the shit out of me

@1776_Garage

10 ай бұрын

Awe, you poor snowflake.

@r_l966

10 ай бұрын

​@@jonnybyrne989a study from the US department of agriculture ,2020, lol . Stop capping , piers couldn't even address that study cause he knows he's wrong abt it lol

@jonnybyrne989

10 ай бұрын

@@r_l966 a study from the department of agriculture from the u.s.a. about a restaurant in perth Australia 👍

@r_l966

10 ай бұрын

@@jonnybyrne989 good lord , your comprehension skills are bad . No that wasn't a study abt a restaurant in Australia. That was a study about bees dying from the production of almonds , piers clearly states "90% of the almonds come from California " . What has a restaurant in Perth got to do with this ? Watch the whole video in 0.5x

100,000,000 sharks killed per year for almost no caloric value

Does he not realize when they spray pesticides on their vegetables that its a gas chamber for anything in its path

@SteversChed

2 ай бұрын

He does, he chooses to pretend such things don't exist for his narrative.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

@lewisfromspain2915

10 ай бұрын

You'll never win because people will continue eating meat and enjoyining it, it's so f_cking tasty!!! mmmmhhh!!!

@Totenkopfstyler3000

10 ай бұрын

Then they eat a steak

@PauIdenino

10 ай бұрын

Then they die of heart disease

@alexfen14

10 ай бұрын

@@PauIdenino then they die of malnutrition

@PauIdenino

10 ай бұрын

@@alexfen14 Yup

Piers is entirely incorrect here, he was not prepared to look at the scientific factual data, but rather quote a newspaper article that he would love to cling to in order to support his ludicrous argument.

@Innocence44

10 ай бұрын

he's just another mouth piece troll

@julienfroidevaux1143

10 ай бұрын

He doesn't even like the Guardian , he really is pathetic.

@MoreBrush

10 ай бұрын

Vegans are out in force lol

@taynitram

10 ай бұрын

quoting a newspaper article , just like all those vegans and people on the left. its dispicable what piers is doing

@blitty6048

10 ай бұрын

Doesnt change the fact that vegans are bitter and hateful and off putting almost every time ive ever met one

Pierce Trying to justify bee deaths when the bulk die in the honey industry is ridiculous. The chef cant handle 1 womans fish complaint. Geez

I met a crazy vegan activist near the Glendale Galleria in la. I was sitting outside the McDonalds and enjoying a quarterpounder with cheese and this lady walked towards me holding an ipad with a gas chamber footage saying this is how that burger was made. I looked at the screen once and looked at the burger in my hand and said 'It's a bloody brilliant transformation, so efficient!' She left blabbering how insensitive I was.

When Piers goes personal you should just bring up the phone hacking scandal.

@eddiebaby22

10 ай бұрын

👍

@pauldavies7251

10 ай бұрын

He wasn't even working for the news of the world 😂

@janet5846

10 ай бұрын

He was cleared

@poisonproductionzz

10 ай бұрын

going for someone's sobriety is even low for Piers....

@allandm

10 ай бұрын

He brought up that he was involved with gangs 10 YEARS AGO, how is that even relevant now to this debate.

Lol imagine naming your own video this, then preceeding to completely lose your argument for 12 minutes...

@horsepower523

10 ай бұрын

You mad vegan? Seems that Piers was right, vegans are angry and bitter. Why is that I wonder?

@Empathy4Animals411

10 ай бұрын

But bees are murdered, bees are murdered, bees are murdered, bees are murdered, bees are murdered, bees are murdered, bees are murdered, bees are murdered

@tomtildesley3675

10 ай бұрын

Lol that vegan was such a tool

@therandomguy1088

10 ай бұрын

Looks like vegan doesn’t care that they also kill animals to protect their ‘vegan’ food.

@Pentrainst

10 ай бұрын

Shush. The vegan is correct piers is wrong like usual.

These BS argument just made me MORE vegan 🌱

@Raceswap

4 ай бұрын

You must feel so tired.

@SSStofu008

3 ай бұрын

@@Raceswap I feel great why would I feel tired?

@Raceswap

3 ай бұрын

@@SSStofu008 you aren't eating real food lol

@SSStofu008

3 ай бұрын

@@Raceswap how so?

@Raceswap

3 ай бұрын

@@SSStofu008 because you're "vegan"

Pierce should have said "its not people killing the pigs, its the gas"

@SteversChed

20 күн бұрын

Who is Pierce?

Joey Carbstrong made vegan bacon out of these two

Piers' argument is pathetic

@markmorris7123

10 ай бұрын

How, I just googled it..And billions of bees get killed in the production of almond milk...No cow gets killed for its milk

@allandm

10 ай бұрын

It's not even an argument, he's just shouting 'bees bees ' at this point xD

@sbeast64

10 ай бұрын

Nonvegans NEVER have good arguments. Only excuses.

@lazarusdouvos

10 ай бұрын

PATHETIC

@sausageman4706

10 ай бұрын

​@@allandmsounds a bit like meat bad meat bad

"Vegan Bible" got me good

Don't trust USDA, trust Piers and the Guardian instead. And supposedly he destroyed the vegan 😂😂

@cynicalidealist11

10 ай бұрын

The level of cope from Piers and some non vegans in the comments is just amazing to me.

Joey just exposed your little almond/bee line like a straight champ. He made you look straight silly lol

@ZealVD

10 ай бұрын

But what about the other 40% that aren’t killed by mites - lets say 20% die of natural causes, 20% die due to land clearing for growing vegetables. Then vegans are killing 1/2 the population that could have died from natural causes. Simply saying ‘its not true because 60% die due to mites’ does not disprove Morgans statement. Morgan also did not say that mites ‘don’t kill bees - both statements are true. Two sides, one coin.

@Gillozz

10 ай бұрын

You are right joey is a fool 1st grade😂😂

@bigt9374

10 ай бұрын

Just because a certain percentage of bees did from mites doesn't make the death of bees from almond agriculture void . Learn how to interpret studies pal. Bees are certainly killed in there millions because of almond trade . Anyone can cherry pick a paper

@Pengochan

10 ай бұрын

Actually he didn't, because so many bees being carried to the orchards for pollination of course results in spreading those mites and more colonies getting infected, so the bees are being killed by mites as a *consequence* of the "almond milk" production. Also without the bees from the "commercial honey industry" he so detests the "almond milk" production just can't keep up with the vegans demand.

@stevep119

10 ай бұрын

actually he didn't he presented data with out context. he keeps saying it is mites killing bees and yest that is true. But he is either ignorant of or worse purposely avoiding the fact of how these mites are being transmitted to wild bee colonies. He neglects to mention that due to the vast size of the monoculture plantations created to grow what he eats. The use of migratory bee keeping has become necessary in order to pollinate the crops. and it is this migratory bee keeping where hives are taken from one place to another then another that spreads mites an diseases that causes wild bee colonies to be killed off. but he choses to ignore that of wilfully choses to neglect to mention that because it doesn't support his ideology. And it is not just bees these monocultures grown for human consumption are effecting monocultures destroy ecosystems and bio diversity and even destroy the very soil they are grown in. and it is not just almonds and avocados either it is many crops after all orangutangs are not on the brink of extinction because of meat farming are they. It s due to monoculture plantations to farm a plant based product that is used for human consumption and in particular as a plant based fat in many vegan substitute foods.

It made me cry when he said about the pig gas chambers..that's horrendous..and wtf that chef cradling a dead piglet?that's sick..I don't eat meat..and it's upsetting that people don't care..it's so sad

@karlosb964

10 ай бұрын

Just mind your business. We will keep eating 🥩

@ruthhadfield9726

10 ай бұрын

it is very dramatised...talk to a farmer and they can put your straight

@digitalian99

10 ай бұрын

"and wtf that chef cradling a dead piglet" for photo?

@Ragglesnap

10 ай бұрын

But you use animal products. Can you tell me what the difference is? An animal still has to be killed for your enjoyment. You are on your computer, which is run on animal cholestrol. So are you saying that if you can't see the animal, it doesn't count?

@digitalian99

10 ай бұрын

"I don't eat meat..and it's upsetting that people don't care" you want people to care that you don't eat meat???? what's wrong with you?

Just read a study that shows that 60% of all US bees are used to pollinate Californian almond fiels (which supports 80% of world’s almond market needs) and that this is the main reason bees die (pesticides and substances used in agriculture, and agriculture means not only almonds, but lots of plants)…

I bet that the activist has never even stepped foot in the US.

@cazzawazzadingdong5139

4 ай бұрын

Not true, Joeys been around the world promoting his activism including U.S. This is a global issue. Even if he hadn't, it not grounds to dismiss his argument. The activists in the US gain enough horrifying footage to back up joeys claims. Standard practice is a worldwide concept.

"I'm against animal cruelty" most hypocritical thing I've heard in years.

@BDub2024

10 ай бұрын

His show involves getting people on with opposing views and set them against each other. He loves getting the whackos on like the vegan as it means good ratings. Don't take it too seriously, so i wouldn't get sucked in. Piers is making tv and boosting his popularity, because he is so good at getting these idiots on that rant and seem totally intolerant. For many thousands of years people have eaten animals while treating them as pets and with kindness. They don't believe in animal cruelty either. We all know that people CAN have different views. Values DO change over time. We can have different views and be tolerant. Not like the vegan guy that kept screaming over everyone. Remember this is entertainment!!!

@Didier-cu6cb

10 ай бұрын

@@interesant7 Do you mean Piers Morgan yeah ?

@BDub2024

10 ай бұрын

@@interesant7 Vegans are in the most absolute minority. No doubt Piers wanted some light entertainment from the funny farm.

@okaynope5197

10 ай бұрын

@@BDub2024 You should know then that the only way you get a word in edge wise on this show is to speak over the man who is speaking over you. So if Joey was docile this would somehow have gone better for him? Get real. Hilarious to call Joey the intolerant one. How is fighting to protect animals anything other than being tolerant???? Try tolerant toward other species. It's only intolerant if your definition of intolerance is someone being passionate about something you disagree with. You want people to just roll over and speak kindly when they disagree with you, and on the Piers Morgan show of all places. And it's not "kindness" to cut a pigs throat when you have the option to eat something else. Plain and simple.

@TenTempeh

10 ай бұрын

​@@BDub2024is it entertainment to you to talk about mass murder of sentient beings? Plain simple.

You lost on this. Piers. Sorry!!

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

No he didn't lol, who was angry and got triggered, the vegan but piers remained calm, were you actually watching lol. 😂

@flower80818

10 ай бұрын

@emmahowells8334 noo. He keeps bringing up the bees and almonds, and he's wrong.

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

@@flower80818So bees lives aren't important, without bees plants can't grow, so where are the vegans gonna get their veggies, the bees pollinate the plants lol.

@flower80818

10 ай бұрын

@emmahowells8334 Why do you want to argue a stranger. Don't you have something better to do.

@emmahowells8334

10 ай бұрын

@@flower80818 You're are doing exactly what you're complaining about, problem is I wasn't arguing just stating an opinion lol.

Q: "Why'd the Vegan cross the road?" A: "To tell you they are a vegan, and to beat you up if you aren't also a vegan."

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent

8 ай бұрын

Q: Why did the carnist cross the road? A: To tell this joke to the vegan and then get all offended when the vegan makes intelligent arguments against flesh and secretion consumption.

@Chrisfragger1

8 ай бұрын

@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent Actually most people are Omnivores, lol... You're joke is boring.

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent

8 ай бұрын

@@Chrisfragger1 Says the one that told the most unoriginal, overused joke of the last decade 🤦‍♀️ Omnivores are carnists.

@Chrisfragger1

8 ай бұрын

@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent Well, I've never really heard the made up term Carnist... I have heard the scientific term, Carnivore, which means to subsist off meat... I would assume that Carnist, coming from the word Carnivore, that it means a diet of meat only or the vast majority of your diet consists of meat products. I am not such a person, lol. I suggest you grow up, and maybe lay off the emotes? Makes you look like a 5th grader.

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent

8 ай бұрын

​​@@Chrisfragger1Lol, ah yes, insecurity leading to the use of insults and personal remarks...the true sign of immaturity. The term carnist was first used by a psychologist to describe the invisible belief system, or ideology, that conditions people to eat certain animals. Essentially what allows them to remain hypocritical. Instead of just assuming things, look them up. There's enough misinformation in this world. 😉

Can we protest on vegan restaurants??? For not serving meat.. if fhey are acting stupid, why cant we?

@Burner01-my7vz

9 ай бұрын

You don't really think that Tash and the other protesters were there just because they banned vegans do you?

@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent

9 ай бұрын

​@@Burner01-my7vz Lol, carnists are hilarious...😂

@Burner01-my7vz

9 ай бұрын

@@annoyingbutmorallyconsistent Yep, gotta laugh,its just too messed up to do otherwise!

Im not vegan but would never have a moan at them for caring about animals

@dalitsomz

10 ай бұрын

I think a lot of people would agree with you. The problem is when they start bombarding your business with negative reviews to the point where your bottom line is affected. Or they come to you (without invitation )as you are eating meat just to inform you of the ill-treatment of animals.

@user-ed7pu5uj3q

10 ай бұрын

PM is actually ganging up on Joey with the help of his guest. He will never, ever, have an equal number of astute vegans to match him and his carcass-guzzling friends.

@user-ed7pu5uj3q

10 ай бұрын

@@DisagreeinpeaceExcept that you are. In the days of slavery, do you think you would have been the sort of person who would denounce slavery when nobody else was doing it? No need to answer, because we know.

@veganelduderino9392

10 ай бұрын

@@Disagreeinpeace body parts , it is murder

@veganelduderino9392

10 ай бұрын

so why not be vegan then?