Phoenix Point Weapons Guide - Tier 3 (Legacy of the Ancients)

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At launch, Phoenix point lacked true weapon 'upgrades'.
There were sidegrades at tier 1, and situationaly superior tier 2 weapons, but ultimately humanity was doomed to be outgunned by the evolving Pandorans.
Legacy of the Ancients changes that, introducing a separate tier of ancient tech weapons.
They're horrifically expensive, they require their own economy system to support, complete with dedicated aircraft and infrastructure.
Invest in them though, and you'll find that finally, you've got a brand new set of gear to fight the enemy with.
This video, we go through these tier 3 weapons, the economy that support them, and how i'd suggest using them.
Welcome back to Phoenix point.

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  • @Self-replicating_whatnot
    @Self-replicating_whatnot3 жыл бұрын

    Finally got my hands on Ancient tech. My impression is as follows: "I AM A GOD OF EXPLOSIONS, WORSHIP ME OR GET EXPLODED"

  • @isaacmcmanus3666
    @isaacmcmanus36663 жыл бұрын

    Yayy, I love this game and am happy to see your return!

  • @Dorkrust
    @Dorkrust3 жыл бұрын

    Phoenix Point DLC 3 - Powercreep of the Ancients :D :P Nice video man, good to see some of what I can look forward to next time I install.

  • @jacobussmit1453
    @jacobussmit14533 жыл бұрын

    This is a fun surprise! I love your videos, sir!

  • @Setnja92
    @Setnja923 жыл бұрын

    I buyed this game with the "Year one edition" on the Steam. I didn't watch any guide or playthrough for the whole year. I had only minimal idea, how it works, what the differencies are there compared to the XCOM. All dlc enabled, somehow finished already. And now, 50 hours in the campaign, with last 22 % of surviving populace of humankind, i will found this about the ancient weapons?? I feel like i villager using the stone axe in the 17th century! :D Well, the blind first playthrough was unique experience, but it won't be the best one for sure :D The game is not really doing good job at explaining all of its aspects. I had no idea, what are these mysterious resourses and how to get them, until now ... :D

  • @MrMichaelBCurtis

    @MrMichaelBCurtis

    3 жыл бұрын

    do story missions !!

  • @oleksaderzybis9052

    @oleksaderzybis9052

    3 жыл бұрын

    I, actually, liked it. Playing for the first time feels grants a lot of exploring satisfaction. Also, I made it to the end on 3rd difficulty without Acient weaponry at all.

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot

    @Self-replicating_whatnot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I should try a playthrough without ancient weapons next time, should be a fun challenge. T2 has some fancy stuff in it, but as Perun pointed out by the time you get to build it you have ancient weapons too and so T2 gets kinda obsolete on launch.

  • @gagaplex
    @gagaplex Жыл бұрын

    When I first tried to grab an Antediluvian Site in mid to late game, the Guardians totally kicked my butt. I actually trained up a new team of Infiltrator-dual class mooks to deal with them piecemeal.

  • @gmradio2436
    @gmradio2436Ай бұрын

    A modern Perun video covering Phoenix Point sounds good. Military Industrial procurement against the sea squid. Maybe on PerunGaming.

  • @tryzydrate
    @tryzydrate3 жыл бұрын

    Solid video. Good answers, subscribed

  • @DarkVeghetta
    @DarkVeghetta23 күн бұрын

    A note about the Rebuke - beyond being an amazing weapon, it can also clear mist within its AoE. This is especially noticeable and useful during Scylla missions. Also, I really wish Ancient tech would have given us a pistol in place of the The Mattock (the 1H club).

  • @The1stDukeDroklar
    @The1stDukeDroklar Жыл бұрын

    Easy way to take out ancients as well as anything else in the game is War Cry and stun weapons. I use heavies with jump jet to get in close, war cry a group, and have others run in with neurazors to stun them. Easy peazy. Same thing with Chirons. I LOVE Chirons. They refine the best and one war cry without any stun makes them completely helpless. Only takes a few rounds of one troop to stun them to sleep.

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot

    @Self-replicating_whatnot

    Жыл бұрын

    Just make sure you don't end up in the LoS of the ancients, they can still fire on 2 AP if they stand still.

  • @sachad964
    @sachad9643 жыл бұрын

    after you do the Tier 2 guide, can you do a class guide, example Heavy what it mixes well with and how to use those abilities, also best way to equip those classes and which skills you should go for first, as in do you take up stats or skills first

  • @saschazapf5232
    @saschazapf52323 жыл бұрын

    I like ur superprofessional look at this Weapons, i i will get the new DLC atonce and start a new Round

  • @joelhackett6100
    @joelhackett61003 жыл бұрын

    Excellent videos, great expert advice. And I also learned the term "NBC" with respect to war crimes. Regards, a guy who has never played Phoenix Point, but watches these vids for some reason

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're not the only one apparently. Quite a few of the people who watch my dominions videos have said they don't play dominions, the same goes for Phoenix Point. I'm just glad you appreciate the content regardless!

  • @legendaryhero1835
    @legendaryhero18353 жыл бұрын

    there should be backpack mount slot item that gives me inventory space but takes up the body-mount slot, and a cyberware-body version of it. that is the same thing but a cyborg bodypart. And there should be a mutant bio part that creates mist. and a head that spits poison like the aliens do to you.

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot

    @Self-replicating_whatnot

    Жыл бұрын

    Would make the Neural Torso more attractive that's for sure. Double carry weight *and* extra inventory slots? Yes please.

  • @harveyjones6234
    @harveyjones62343 жыл бұрын

    hell yeah more of this!!, have you thought about making a patron acc ? as i would pay for more pheonix point strategy and tips as well as super in depth stuff like this its awesome

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am plotting out two weeks where I have a faster upload schedule of maybe three videos per week. if I can keep up with that then I'll set up a patreon but I'm not willing to ask for support if I don't think I can deliver content. I really appreciate the message mate, glad you found this one useful.

  • @szybkilewyprostyf231
    @szybkilewyprostyf231 Жыл бұрын

    Will you do tier 2 weapons guide? Ther was som update and DLC do you plan to make film about it? (new weapons, upgrade for armor cars...)

  • @td6460
    @td64603 жыл бұрын

    I said it when the game released, it's still true today: it is absolutely clear that there is no "math guy" on the balance/numbers side on the dev team. It shines through in all aspects of the game.

  • @teecee1827

    @teecee1827

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. You are given options which are basically useless next to options that are too advantageous to pass on, for basically the same price/investment. As a a consequence, lots of work the devs put in some aspects of the game are not taken advantage of and the game feels either unfair or railroady. I hope the Arkahm update set to release soon takes all these math problems into account and makes it more engaging to use some of the tools given at our disposition.

  • @MrMichaelBCurtis

    @MrMichaelBCurtis

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@teecee1827 what? I disagree.

  • @silent_stalker3687

    @silent_stalker3687

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which is why I love it The game is sheer chaos at times and some stuff doesn’t make sense- what else could be more fitting?

  • @Shadowing99

    @Shadowing99

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's right.Get scorpion,and you already beat the game

  • @TryHardTentacles

    @TryHardTentacles

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrMichaelBCurtis Normally people supply a counter argument, otherwise you stating your disagreement is needlessly antagonistic, doesn't server a point, and frankly just comes off... stupid?

  • @timblighton6216
    @timblighton6216 Жыл бұрын

    Was there a tier 2 video? I’m missing it.

  • @OdeeOz
    @OdeeOz3 жыл бұрын

    Is Legacy of the Ancients end game, and even the game progression, very different from the Cthulhu DLC? Different missions, objectives and so on?

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Ancients missions are all mid-game (unless you leave them for later), focused on storming and defending the ancient sites, or seizing blueprints. They don't dramatically change the mission types overall and the main impact on the endgame is the gear you'll have access to and the number of locations you have to defend on the map.

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot

    @Self-replicating_whatnot

    3 жыл бұрын

    All you get apart from site fights and weapon bp's is 3 new pandoran enemies - Arthron high on protean mutane gas who hulks out when killed, Siren in orichalcum bra(not sure what that does, probably just more armor) and a Chiron that has crystals growing out of his every orifice.

  • @sachad964
    @sachad9643 жыл бұрын

    Can you upload a video taking down a antideluvian site

  • @yomogami4561
    @yomogami45613 жыл бұрын

    just found these and love your work. sadly my experience with games are that they will nerf the antediluvian weapons to 'balance' the game and when the air game comes in i bet keeping sites mining will be problematic.

  • @camerancole8433
    @camerancole8433 Жыл бұрын

    can you please make a few more informational PP videos since the vehicle remake

  • @Raar5467
    @Raar54672 жыл бұрын

    Do you have full guide

  • @leandromoraisrodrigues8195
    @leandromoraisrodrigues81952 жыл бұрын

    what mods are you using? your interface is different and i 'd like to test yous

  • @josefrezek5630
    @josefrezek56303 жыл бұрын

    SCYTHER: You missed a lot if you didn't build it! "It's hard to describe the effect of the Scyther..." - PP research description Scyther is actually an AoE weapon, a club with a CLEAVE effect able to hit multiple targets up to 2 tiles away. It also works on BIG targets as it can disable MULTIPLE body parts at once. Eg: two swings to a SCYLLA from the front -> both smashers are gone! There are also caveats to this attack: It is hard to hit BIG targets, eg. SPAWNERY gets ZERO dmg unless you hit an EGGPOD. Assault/Infiltrator -> Ninja with 600-690 AoE dmg Assault/Berserker -> Game-breaking Monster with 300-540 dmg and up to 70! movement able to clear *any* map in the first turn!

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot

    @Self-replicating_whatnot

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vengeance torso makes berserker obsolete.

  • @smorensky4877

    @smorensky4877

    2 жыл бұрын

    Give it to any assault and you end back in pre patch days of 1 assault/zerker clearing the entire map (except now you only need an assault).

  • @josefrezek5630

    @josefrezek5630

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Self-replicating_whatnot Berserker has the extra move ability, which will allow for unrestricted movement around the map. And yes, he still needs that vengeance torso for the discount.

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot

    @Self-replicating_whatnot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@josefrezek5630 Maps are so small it doesn't matter. And any bonus speed berserker gets is pittance in comparison to frenzy anyway.

  • @josefrezek5630

    @josefrezek5630

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Self-replicating_whatnot zerker bonus moves from wounds stacks fully with frenzy, that's why you can end up with 70 moves. Might be an overkill on some maps, but on citadel or spawnery it is needed.

  • @KaijuAlert
    @KaijuAlert3 жыл бұрын

    Does Snapshot really hate assault rifles? I just finished my first playthrough and the Piranha rifle absolutely destroyed my enemies, not to mention the living assault rifle using rage burst against shredded targets, seems broken powerful.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    My problem is that you can usually find something that will do a better job, and because there's no ancient tech equivalent, there's nowhere for the assault rifle class to go to keep up with the launchers and shotguns etc.

  • @KaijuAlert

    @KaijuAlert

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU Have any of your videos covered the living weapons? I thought they were cool and powerful if used right, if not particularly "meta".

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KaijuAlert I don't have access to them in my game which makes them hard to analyse. Never tracked down why that is considering I was a FIG backer.

  • @michaelsedzikowski3669
    @michaelsedzikowski36693 жыл бұрын

    Okay, so I have killed all of the guardians, my ship is attached to the gas rafinery but I am not extracting any gas. What went wrong?

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Refineries dont create resources, they let you use the one you have. so like you get crystals at crystal mines with aircraft. but you cant use them unless you have the crystal lapidiary or however its spelled

  • @michaelsedzikowski3669

    @michaelsedzikowski3669

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU I see, so this is completely new economy. Thanks for answer 👍

  • @Minotaur5200
    @Minotaur52002 жыл бұрын

    Hey bro, could you get a tutorial vid on how to defeat the enemies in the ruins?

  • @Darksiege357

    @Darksiege357

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bring 3-4 snipers, make a firing line, take out the cyclops ASAP. use the assaults to deal damage after the snipers shred armor with their LVL 6 ability. flank the small guys with the assaults, and if needed, use concentrated sniper fire to take out shields, as it also cripples the torso, reducing their HP to 80. When you flank the hoplites, it can mess up how they deploy the shield, so even if you can't fire at them in the same turn, it pays to flank them. For a final tip, all the enemies only activate based on proximity, so take the mission slow and only attack when your squad is in position and always stick together unless you need to flank.

  • @adrian_86
    @adrian_863 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but how the hell are these new weapons build? I get that error "you do not have the required ancient processing site" and cannot build them, I have the resources for one weapon, but the "+" button is grayed out.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    I talk about this in the video. You need both an extraction site and a processing site for each resource. So for Orichalcum, owning the orichalcum mine and keeping an aircraft there will let you stockpile Orichalcum. You can't actually USE that orichalcum for anything though until you've cleared the Orichalcum forge, a separate site. You don't need to keep an aircraft at the processing site though. For each resource the sites are paired. Crystal mine is the crystal extraction site for example, and the crystal lapidiary or however you spell it is the processing site.

  • @adrian_86

    @adrian_86

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU ok, so where is the Orichalcum forge and the processing site? Cuz I can't find them

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adrian_86 Have you covered the world in archeological probes and excavated all the antideluvian sites?

  • @adrian_86

    @adrian_86

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU yes, on land, should I put probes on the oceans too?

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adrian_86 Every site I found was on land. It took me ages to find the Orichalcum forge, but i'm surprised you haven't found any processing sites at all. How many ruins have you found and excavated so far?

  • @gogogorrilla5176
    @gogogorrilla51763 жыл бұрын

    From what i understand the scyther is an aoe weapon bit i can be incorrect

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it has a narrow AoE, nothing mind blowing but it can come in handy. It's definitely a nifty weapon compared to the mattock.

  • @eviljoshy3402
    @eviljoshy34022 жыл бұрын

    "Almost counts in horseshoes and hand grenades" and the rubuke >.>

  • @zaidmohammad757
    @zaidmohammad7579 ай бұрын

    Shard Gun has terrific accuracy for a shotgun - i could swear the crystal travels dead straight

  • @stickydude8921
    @stickydude89213 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for playing the game in 5fps so we can appreciate the details in single frames

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Clearly a genius move on my part and not an interaction between my recording software and the game! :)

  • @andrewpan9565
    @andrewpan95653 жыл бұрын

    Game : gives me free unlimited grenades Me : so anyway i started blasting

  • @taomahNEGEV

    @taomahNEGEV

    3 жыл бұрын

    I Rebuke you.

  • @promain5328

    @promain5328

    3 жыл бұрын

    INCOMING!!!

  • @deadwolf2978
    @deadwolf29783 жыл бұрын

    what happened to second tier weapons vid?

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did tier 3 first because i unlocked them before tier 2 and I like being able to show them in game. T2 is coming.

  • @deadwolf2978

    @deadwolf2978

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU cool. will be waiting.

  • @mechzilla569

    @mechzilla569

    3 жыл бұрын

    Perun after t 3 please do ground vehicles or classes next

  • @onomastikon7975

    @onomastikon7975

    Жыл бұрын

    All done with phoenix point?

  • @TheAussieLeo
    @TheAussieLeo3 жыл бұрын

    "Wasn't finished" is a polite phrase... rushed out for epic's money grab is closer to the truth. But yes, it's so much better now.

  • @krellin
    @krellin Жыл бұрын

    was this merfed?

  • @ricktherock
    @ricktherock6 ай бұрын

    Where is the tier 2? Also don't have them yet but do have legacy and kaos weapons... Loving the game got it and all dlcs for $20.

  • @taomahNEGEV
    @taomahNEGEV3 жыл бұрын

    How do you take 8 soldiers on a 5 pax Helios?

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    you use two of them, flying together. One loaded with 5 and the other 3.

  • @taomahNEGEV

    @taomahNEGEV

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU Ho do you off load both of the aircraft for mission deployment?

  • @taomahNEGEV

    @taomahNEGEV

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU Does it mean if you use 2xTiamats you can deploy a 16 soldier team for a mission ?

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@taomahNEGEV if both aircraft are in the same place then if you go to deploy on a mission then troops from both aircraft will be available to tick for deployment.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@taomahNEGEV There is a limit of 8 soldiers for most missions. some rare missions have higher limits but never 16.

  • @filipesilveira5360
    @filipesilveira53602 жыл бұрын

    My problem with this game is the overwhelming numbers the enemy throws at you at one time. AI is surprisingly good. Enemies are varied but just too many to deal with.

  • @The1stDukeDroklar

    @The1stDukeDroklar

    Жыл бұрын

    Easy to deal with. War cry and stun weapons make groups of enemies helpless as babies. Works on all enemies.

  • @sachad964
    @sachad9643 жыл бұрын

    you seem to know this game well, any chance for a lets play to the finish. you seem to be alot further then me with alot more then i have, and iam struggling for tech and materials with not many sites left. i do all the havens i can for resources and have NOT built any ships. i have 3, 8 man teams 2 full squads in the Anu ships and 1 8 man squad with 1 vehicle in a telios and manticore. i would like to make a similar response squad using 2 telios as my men seem to be struggling killing pandorans with current weaponry. i only just built my first bionics which decreases melee Aps. all my weaponry seems to be Tier 1 i can build some New Jericho advanced weaponry but the struggle for resources. Have you and can you get all bases i think i have 7, iam sure i got a notice about extra scavenging sites available but that didnt seem to show much more on the map. whats another way for resources. iam allied with 2 factions(approx 95%) (Reached100%) and over 50% with Anu. any ideas.

  • @PerunAU

    @PerunAU

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would be keen to provide a video on strategic map tips, but it'd be great to have a few more details. What difficulty are you on and what are you spending most of your resources on for example? Are you overbuilding up facilities in your bases (activating 7 when you're under-geared seems excessive. I think I have 7 at the stage of the game you see me in). The one thing I will say is I suspect your teams have just been too slow. One team in a pair of Helios can get about twice as much work done as a tiamat crew, providing you're smart in how you set up your bases with living quarters. You can hit twice as many sites and missions per day, and since Pandorans scale up based on game time, moving quickly helps you get ahead of the curve. I don't have many more troops than you. I only recently got my third, 8 man team up, but my air fleet is 7 helios, a manticore, and a tiamat, with the slower stuff doing mining work. I'm going to get a Thunderbird soon just for low speed stuff close to home. As for gearing, I think trained soldiers usually matter more than gear. Tier 1s are fine though, especially the hel cannon, harrower, and pythagoras.

  • @sachad964

    @sachad964

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PerunAU Your special missions are further on then iam none seem familiar to me, iam spending on bases gettting operational, and repairing, built mist repellers in all, i think i have available 40 troops with med bay and training. i just recently have access through bases to most of the world. if iam correct i only have 3 sites left to explore apart from visiting all havens which i dont think is required. (started in Africa and recently cleared a site above Australia). mostly spend on ammo and buy new guns and armor and new recruits 24 men lost 7 i think and built 1 vehicle. stole all aircraft. tried to clear 1 of the antideluvian sites was going okay until i got flanked by another 4 guards. just downloaded update which apparently lowers this. Difficulty setting i think when i restarted i set to 2nd. my main issue seems to be weapons and armor to fight pandorans, i do win without too much reloading but the fights seem hard. pandorans are constantly evolving but my weapons which i do have ability to build seem out of reach as i need to build 3 squads worth. i have picked up alot of weapons through fighting, recently my first AP NJ sniper rifle. i have built mounted weapons though. A class matching guide would help to match with possible armor builds and weapons. cheers

  • @maxmagnus3793
    @maxmagnus37932 жыл бұрын

    Yeah so I'm doing my first playthrough without the Ancient weapons enabled. They just seem way too OP.

  • @namenotavailable
    @namenotavailable2 жыл бұрын

    25:50 "Its a war crime" Let me know when you get to it's downsides.

  • @greatkoyot
    @greatkoyot2 жыл бұрын

    Tough game

  • @thisguy35
    @thisguy353 жыл бұрын

    that made me reload and get this new dlc!! fuckin getting bored waiting for a discount on warframe. think ill drop it after 6 years!!! rather spend 9 euros on this dlc and play for about 100 h if i remenber corectly. thx for all that info! time to get to work

  • @vitoremanuel5349
    @vitoremanuel5349 Жыл бұрын

    I watched this video to decide if I wanted to play with the dlc on... I don't, looks like cheating, :v

  • @jimelliott8931
    @jimelliott89313 жыл бұрын

    Legacy of the ancient is garbage

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