Penn Spinfisher V 4500 fishing reel retreive issue problem diagnosis and repair

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This video takes you inside the Penn Spinfisher V 4500 spinning reel that was performing poorly. It details how to do problem analysis and fix the reel.
I have been servicing fishing reels for over 20 years and am sharing my experiences here. If you enjoy the video, please like it and subscribe to see more.
Questions? Comments? I reply to all.
Thank you for watching - Dennis
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  • @MakeItHappenOriginal
    @MakeItHappenOriginal Жыл бұрын

    my reel has this issue, I tore it part 10 times and it works for about 5 minutes and ends up going stiff again on the retrieve. it did this out of the box. glad I finally found a video to get this taken care of

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad the video helped. Thanks for the note - Dennis

  • @64vmax
    @64vmax3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dennis for another great video and sharing your expertise. The diagnostic and repair portion of this video was great.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! Just trying to pass on some tips for you to use - Best wishes - Dennis

  • @armandorjusino
    @armandorjusino3 жыл бұрын

    One of the best instructional videos I have ever seen, much obliged for sharing your awesome knowledge and experience on the field.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words. Best wishes for great fishing - Dennis

  • @totalnoobfishing1753
    @totalnoobfishing17533 жыл бұрын

    Another awesome vid Dennis - I have the Spinfisher VI 4500 and they have changed the design on the crosswind block.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes - they continue to improve on their designs - Dennis

  • @DC-sy9uz
    @DC-sy9uz Жыл бұрын

    Good video 👌. That exact wear is caused by still reeling while the fish is taking line or when drag is working ... Try to only crank reel handle when gaining line , not when loosing line ... 👍

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tip

  • @briankelly434
    @briankelly4343 жыл бұрын

    I have a 4500 with the same problem. Looks like I can fix it now. Thank you!

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that this may help - Best wishes on your repair and on fishing - Dennis

  • @mikemcelveen2973
    @mikemcelveen29733 жыл бұрын

    I have two 3500 spinfisher v's for all my inshore fishing. I work these reels very hard when I'm at the coast so if mine start to bind up I'll know what to do. Thanks Dennis!! Enjoyed!

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help. Best wishes for great fishing - Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis

  • @byoungizzle
    @byoungizzle3 жыл бұрын

    Love the channel! Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! Please stay tuned for more - Dennis

  • @edbaggett5656
    @edbaggett5656 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I’ve been having this same issue with my V4500. Very frustrating. Although I have not ordered the replacement part I was able to smooth the flat spot and returned it to working much better.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped. These go out of round for some reason. I don't think the roller ever makes a full revolution so that may cause the flat spot. Sounds like you found the solution. Thanks for the note - Dennis

  • @shakeme3290
    @shakeme32903 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed the video. Thanks Dennis

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis

  • @davidcarrillo6318
    @davidcarrillo63182 жыл бұрын

    I have the 5500 and love it, the only thing I’ve done is upgrade the handle knob to a Gomexus. The bigger knob helps me pull Stripers up with ease and looks more like a slammer. I haven’t opened it up but now I’m going to have to just to regrease and lube it. Thank you Dennis

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing - best wishes for great striper fishing with your freshly serviced reel - Dennis

  • @joycedimaggio3816
    @joycedimaggio38163 жыл бұрын

    I always wanted a Spinfisher, just not sure how I feel about today's models. Thanks for the video.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are still good reels. Every now and then something goes bad. Keep that one on your Christmas wish list - Dennis

  • @brandondethrow4834
    @brandondethrow48343 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate it brother. Thanks again

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any time! Thanks for watching - Dennis

  • @christopherjenkins2373
    @christopherjenkins23733 жыл бұрын

    Dennis, do you remember my 706Z of mine that you serviced? It also had a problem when load was applied to the reel. Turned out the noise was the line roller on the end of the bail. You know I am so used to surf fishing with vintage reels with an anti-reverse switch or lever that I don’t like reels with an always on AR. I like being able to turn the reel in the opposite direction such as wading in the water to cast and then backing out of the water. It allows me to leave the rig where I cast it as I get out of the water if that makes sense. This video goes to show how close the tolerances are on fishing reels. I think it’s great that this problem could never happen on a Luxor No. 3 or my Mer 52. Great video Demi’s. By the way I am still in a lot of pain but haven’t had to go back to the hospital. I think I’m gradually getting better. --- Chris

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good to hear you are recovering. Ditto to the always on A/R - I don't like it either. It is a cheap fix to developing the A/R clutch over-ride. Be well - Dennis

  • @christopherjenkins2373

    @christopherjenkins2373

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@2ndChanceTackle you are so right!

  • @davidmcilveen5013
    @davidmcilveen50133 жыл бұрын

    Great job Dennis,well done. Nice to see an unusual problem.....helps me to TRY and remember to inspect parts more closely,if there was a problem. Your instructions, hints and tips,are once again so usefull,thank you. Stay safe and please keep posting. One quick question,would you have any links to get schematics for Okuma reels?I am having trouble finding the schematics for the ones that I have,thanks.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks you for the kind words David. Best wishes - Dennis

  • @samevans4525
    @samevans4525 Жыл бұрын

    Had this problem, used the spacers that were included with the reel that go under the spool that are there for this very reason. Under tight drag the spool hits the carriage.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    Жыл бұрын

    THanks - yes - the reel can bottom out without the spacers

  • @MaverickCompany
    @MaverickCompany3 жыл бұрын

    I love the Spinfisher V's

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are well made and durable. Best wishes for great fishing with them - Dennis

  • @user-me4xm1fe3j
    @user-me4xm1fe3j3 жыл бұрын

    Thanx uncle Danny 😉

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome

  • @sasha.djordjevic3071
    @sasha.djordjevic30712 жыл бұрын

    Hi, great video and very informative. I have brand new Penn clash CLA4000 ( it’s been used for couple ours in total for lure spinning ). Now, I have noticed since day one some strange behavior- when reeling under load I have a very rhythmic knock/vibration and stutter sound. You can also feel this sound. It is worse the faster you retrieve and if reeling super super slow you can’t really notice it at all. Any idea what to check ( return to shop isn’t an option because it’s bought in Australia and I’m in Europe ) Best regards

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    2 жыл бұрын

    It may be a rotational or stroke problem where the reel knocks at a certain position and in the same place every time. That will usually indicate a bent axle shaft or a worn main gear - Hard to say more without seeing or hearing the knock. Also, if the knock is occurring at the bottom of the stroke, then try cranking the reel with the spool removed. If the knock goes away, the fix may be as easy as adding a shim washer on top of the ratchet on the axle shaft - Dennis

  • @sasha.djordjevic3071

    @sasha.djordjevic3071

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@2ndChanceTackle Thank you for reply. It’s strange that reeling without load or very slow reeling with load, clash is smooth and no knocking but under the load ( medium or high cranking speed ) it starts - from middle. After opening side plate and “repositioning” main gear and retightening all visible internal screws, knocking despaired ~90% barely noticeable anymore. Just for the record I have zero experience with maintaining fishing reels - it was first time ever to open one. And second: according to my humble opinion, Penn was cheap with grease, will it hurts if I add little more of it?

  • @DIZZYHALE
    @DIZZYHALE3 жыл бұрын

    First comment Award......Seems like the older spinfishers were built better.

  • @christopherjenkins2373

    @christopherjenkins2373

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree! The older Spinfishers are better. I have seven of them from the first 1961 Spinfisher 700 to my favorite 706Z this particular problem couldn’t happen in one of these older Spinfishers. (Unfortunately other problems can happen but they are easy to fix.)

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    They were built different, but there are arguments for either. Changes in materials and manufacturing make the comparisons distant cousins. Thanks for watching - Dennis

  • @wesoliphant8466
    @wesoliphant84662 жыл бұрын

    Great video.what is your favorite generation of the spinfisher..I like the 4500ss with old style anti reverse..red bearing cap..

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like that generation too. I think the current line is nice as well

  • @wesoliphant8466

    @wesoliphant8466

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@2ndChanceTackle I want try one .. but I got about 20 of the first second and third gens..good problem to have I guess

  • @anthonygregorio2208
    @anthonygregorio22083 жыл бұрын

    Dennis do you know if the Battle 2 has that similar design for the crosswind block? Mine acts exactly the same way and I thought maybe it was the shim washers between the main gear and side plate. Could that be caused by the track that the crosswind block rides in?

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, it is not the same - the Battle II has the traditional crosswind block without that bushing. Check to see if you have broken line in the reel or weak drag washers. That may be the cause -Thanks for asking - Dennis

  • @ktpzima892
    @ktpzima892 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining the inside to Penn! Unfortunately, mine broke today and I found you here! Disruption of the left main drive and the crank turns! the throttle lever rotates freely!! Can you help me, what can be done? Is this a common problem due to the small/tight thread? (Penn clash 3000) The thread came out of a gear. Is it worth replacing the main gear? I would be grateful for the advice!🤞🙏

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    Жыл бұрын

    If the gear threads were stripped by cross-threading the handle and that is the only damage, then it is worth replacing the main gear. It is not a common problem, but it happens. Thanks for asking Dennis

  • @ktpzima892

    @ktpzima892

    Жыл бұрын

    @@2ndChanceTackle Thank you very much for the quick reply! The part is expensive (to Europe) and that's why I asked (+30 days for delivery).. It is on the right side, intact, but on the left side the reverse left thread is dead.. Penn produced a very, very small thread. I just cut a strip of plastic as a thread insert and screwed the crank!+Loctite 270 (30Nm-)! RUNS GREAT! Massive (bull) TIP-POP!👌 I will order one anyway and I hope it will last for a long time! Thank you and good health! Greetings from Hungary

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    Жыл бұрын

    Greetings. I hope you did not loctite the handle into the gear. It may never come out! Best wishes - Dennis

  • @ktpzima892

    @ktpzima892

    Жыл бұрын

    @@2ndChanceTackle Thank you for your concern! Engineer Penn drew a very small cnc thread..I cut a thin strip of plastic so that I could insert the winding arm (A small piece from a soft drink bottle) +1 drop of Loctite on the intact thread of the winding and screwed it into place..I was able to screw it in place tightly. It's holding up great! Until the part arrives, it's great.. An emergency solution can be great! Thanks again! Have a nice day!

  • @Bobby59
    @Bobby592 жыл бұрын

    good informative vid! I maybe buying two brand new (never used) penn spinfisher V 6500 and an 8500 for fishing from the beach. Just curious on how these hold up and if they are worth it? $280 for the both of them.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    2 жыл бұрын

    These hold up very well. Just keep them serviced. $280 is a fair price. Not a great deal, but a deal - Dennis

  • @Bobby59

    @Bobby59

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@2ndChanceTackle Thank you for the response

  • @bobmennel137
    @bobmennel137 Жыл бұрын

    I have a spin fisher VI 4500LL with similar problem. Typically used in river with 3-4oz sinker. If I catch even a small perch it is troublesome to reel in. I haven't used in about a year due to this. Do you have any idea what causes this problem?

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    Жыл бұрын

    My first guess is a bent axle shaft. You need to take the reel apart and "see" what is going on - Dennis

  • @nicholassabella8338
    @nicholassabella83383 жыл бұрын

    Hey how are you doing I just updated my 4500 v spinfisher to cnc gear and pinion now it’s hard to turn I had it apart many times any ideas and I do have instructions on what I have done

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check the main gear shims. Those are installed at the factory and the original gear may have needed more than the new one that you have installed. If there are too many shims, the main gear will bind and be difficult to turn. That is the first thing I would check - Dennis

  • @wilbertbenjamin9928
    @wilbertbenjamin99288 ай бұрын

    Well friend you can take the little bushing and order a barring for this

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the additional information - Dennis

  • @tudoan1079
    @tudoan10792 жыл бұрын

    What is the name of the part you changed the name of and where did you buy it. Thanks sir

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is the crosswind block bushing and is available through mysticparts.com

  • @rubenromero4988
    @rubenromero49882 жыл бұрын

    Is this a good reel

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes - the SpinFisher V series and the following VI series are good, solid and dependable reels - Dennis

  • @rubenromero4988

    @rubenromero4988

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is it worth $100

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is all about if it is clean and lightly used, in good condition and kept serviced then it is worth it. If it is beat up, needs service, has something broken, etc. then it is not - Dennis

  • @rubenromero4988

    @rubenromero4988

    2 жыл бұрын

    The reel appears to look good I found it on craigslist though I haven’t bought it yet

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's worth checking it out with the seller. You don't need Toby it if you don't like what you see or you can negotiate with the seller if repairs need to be made

  • @samuelschawl349
    @samuelschawl3493 жыл бұрын

    You know the world has really gone cheap when a company like Penn starts making reels with no anti reverse release.

  • @2ndChanceTackle

    @2ndChanceTackle

    3 жыл бұрын

    The elimination of the A/R was the easy way to make a continuous A.R without worrying how to over-ride the clutch. I guess they figured out that most folks did not use the over-ride and voted for the easy option - Thanks for the note - Dennis

  • @samuelschawl349

    @samuelschawl349

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@2ndChanceTackle I'd like to have a Luxor Salmon Mer like the one you worked on the other day. I could see myself fishing with one of those.

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