Great video as always. Some notes: - MPS and FE are based in Poland. TA Publishing is in France. - I doubt they're going to do anything with the voice acting since there isn't any reference material on Panzerese that could be used to record new dialogue. They'd have to do it all by ear and risk getting words wrong. - As bad as the blue dragon's homing lasers sound, the dark dragon's booming laser attack sounds even wimpier. :\

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4 жыл бұрын

Saturn Memories Thanks Mr Memories! Yeah, definitely missing some of those deep, bass heavy sounds in Remake. The location of MPS is confusing. I’m seeing some websites say it’s in France, while others say MPS S.A. is in Poland. FE is for sure in Poland.

@SaturnMemories

4 жыл бұрын

@@PandaMoniumReviews MPS is a subsidiary of Forever. I believe they're both located in Krakow and the studio head is definitely a Pole -- Artur Grzegorczyn. I'm not sure how TA Publishing fits into the picture. Co-publisher to help finance the game, I guess...?

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4 жыл бұрын

Saturn Memories Got it. That’s complicated. Thanks for the heads up! I’ll be sure to update this in the description and future remake vids.

Great review and THANK YOU for pointing out that the game was clearly not finished and possibly rushed out the door, it's something that I saw in a lot of reviews get totally ignored. It's fun but it still needs more work.

Off all the things I've said, you picked that 🤣🤣🤣 Side note, I know I've recieved a ton of flack from some for my "review", which really isnt even a review. But like I said there, I really do hope they can make this into the very best iteration of Panzer Dragoon to date. Those controls though, no sir...

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4 жыл бұрын

The Southern Sega Gentleman It was either that or the Mardi gras quote. 😜 Your review is excellent. It’s a heavy criticism, but your points are very fair. The controls desperately need to be fixed.

@TheSouthernSegaGentleman

4 жыл бұрын

That Mardi Gras and molasses quote were monumental for me. The best one was about the diamond in the goats ass though! 😂

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4 жыл бұрын

The Southern Sega Gentleman I’m pretty sure you’re the first reviewer to make that goats ass metaphor. It was excellent and accurate

@worsel555

4 жыл бұрын

Well you were among some good company in there, I also heard Maximilian Dood's voice echoing my complaint about not getting the 60 fps version Nintendo keeps showing off.

@robertdanker6193

4 жыл бұрын

Seeing the SSG in this review was epic!

It's cool to see you checking out modern games in the same style of your other videos, I'd love to see more stuff like this!

You're a legend, Nick. Such a researched and entertaining review, as always, and with the perfect dash of The Walrus to top it off. I agree with the sentiment, though after playing through the remaster and being frustrated with the laggy triggers and the dragon too often obstructing what I'm trying to see on screen, I went back to the Saturn version and I don't think I can go back. The Saturn game, even still, plays so damned well - when you lock on, it registers instantly and fairly with a less precision required than the remaster. Moreover, the camera rotation is quicker and smoother, making it much easier to manage. And as dated as the graphics are on the Saturn, I still think the art direction has more personality and style than the populated but basic worlds in this new one. I'm happy the new one exists, and I'll always support projects that aim to revive SEGA's classic IPs, but the best thing about this remaster was how it reminded me just how good SEGA's original was, and still is, and it's given my Saturn a whole new workout lately going through it all over again.

"SURPRISE! We're releasing an unfinished game!" such a Sega thing to do

@SuperSpindasher1991

27 күн бұрын

Sega didn’t make this though, megapixel studio did.

This was the review I was waiting for

This video made me so excited for your eventual Panzer Dragoon Saga review

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4 жыл бұрын

tveye363 “20 years later...”

@tveye363

4 жыл бұрын

@@PandaMoniumReviews 50 year old me will be ready.

Excellent review. I ordered the long box edition from limited run games. Hopefully by the time I get it all the patches will be done.

Great video. If you ever want to review any more modern games in between your Saturn reviews, than I will watch for sure!

2:39 a wild Southern Sega Gentleman appears! A shame he stopped uploading too, hope he's doing okay. I really liked his stuff.

PD on the Saturn still looks absolutely gorgeous. An ethereal mix of colors; such as copper, jade and onyx. You can't describe the colors as 'blue, green and brown' because they genuinely feel like beautiful minerals jutting out from the sea bed like a planet abandoned. The PC version especially looks absolutely incredible. So why the fuck does the remake look so awful? Why is it when these remakes come out, they think that upping the polygon count is a replacement for art design? I am not shitting on Sega by the way, Sony are guilty of these also with the abysmal Shadow of the Colossus. Another game remade without any consideration for the original art design. Great art direction will never age and yet it seems to be the thing that is so easily ignored in remakes. I can't think of any remakes that genuinely stay true to the original vision. The only ones that succeed are the ones that try something completely different because they know there is no way to recreate the magic that made the original so good (FF7 for instance). I understand porting a Saturn game is absolutely painful (just look at the cotton rereleases) but PD was released on PC with the Saturn card! Are you telling me you couldn't get a team together to port the PC version with hi-res textures and wide screen to switch? It would have looked glorious if done right. Treasure ported Radient Silvergun to the XBOX360 with enhanced graphics options and it's a fucking masterpiece. They should have given this to them. I'm sad.

@ryeb

Жыл бұрын

the RSG port is absolutely how all these games should be handled. i’m glad it’s on the switch now too. from the moment i saw this remake i was disinterested, it looks nothing like panzer dragoon. it looks like generic mobile phone game crap.

I appreciate this review. I pre-ordered from LRG. Hopefully it will be fully patched by the time it's manufactured. Great review and I appreciate the perspective.

Im glad i wasnt the only one who felt the aiming and attacking felt floaty. Of course I was likely fresh off the OG, but still. I dunno if anyone from the team back during Orta is still around, but i'd like to see another game from that side. These guys did an ok job, but i feel like they'd probably have been better tasked with a spiritual successor

The developers completely fucked up a port of a relatively simple game. They can't be trusted with the superior Panzer Dragoon Zwei. It should be given to M2 or Sumo Digital who we know would do it justice.

The reality may not be as simple as what I'm about to say, but with classic game remake like this, I just want to see it in modern graphics and leave everything else alone.Honestly, even the original still looks great today, because the developers maximized its potential within the hardware limit.One game I would like to see in current generation console is Road Rash 64, because it's an awfully good game that desperately needs decent graphics.

Thanks for such a great in depth review. As usual your your videos are very thoughtful and well put together. I pre-ordered the physical Switch version of PD Remake from LRG and ended up exchanging it at my local game shop without playing it. I really despise how the remake looks - the colors choices in the first level were not a limitation of the system, it was a decision based on the tone of the game. Panzer Dragoon is a somber series, and painting it with bright colors completely misses that tone. Beyond color I strongly disliked the overall art direction, sound effects, dragon animation and design and overall presentation. I never played it but read a great deal about the controls issues you had with it. I still have my Saturn hooked up and just played the original again instead. I think the developers fundamentally did not understand what made Panzer Dragoon special. Combined with the rushed release (which appeared to tank the sales, and doom the Zwei remake as well) this project was not handled with the care the series deserved.

My feeling is that the spirit is the same but the vibe is different. It’s difficult for me to articulate but you can’t replicate the atmosphere of Saturn games on new hardware. The limitations of the time give it a unique feel, as well as the era it was born into. If that makes sense

one of the things nobody is talking about is how in the original if you tapped the fire button, it wouldn't just fire a single shot. It was like a burst shot. You got several shots for each button press. The newer game your gun fires slower when tapped and it just feels awful. I wanted to like this but I simply cannot play it. It hurts my head to try to figure out the finicky lock on controls and the rapid fire is so slow no matter how fast you tap the button. The dragon is too large on screen and the reticule makes no sense.

As a newcomer to the series I was impressed it needs work but I will say the art is very faithful and for a game with its source code having been lost this remake is pretty impressive in that one regard the chapter 1 and 2 definitely could of gotten more work done on them in terms of visuals Chapter 3 and 6 are absolutely beautiful controls work but need refined I also think they could of added a bit more and maybe even make the story make sense for example maybe even make it a separate mode the second level should technically be the first level because the intro leaves off at the desert and the first level should be the 5th one as the ruins are seen closer to the city of chapter 6 The Dragons wings are to stiff in my opinion the dragon could of looked better however the Black Dragon is perfect also I see your a spyro dude a man of culture

I couldn't stand the modern controls, myself. I switched to classic, immediately. One thing that I found weird is that selecting the classic reticle made aiming an absolute chore. It just isn't accurate. I don't get why the closer camera is the default. I didn't care for having to pull it back at the start of every level. Definitely should have been a menu option. Also, I found the final boss laughably easy. Surprised to hear you say it was even remotely difficult. All you have to do is be extremely aggressive, spamming single shots like crazy in between lock-on beam barrages, and he goes down before he has the chance to drain your health.

I actually really like the new sound of the arrows of light. But I also have no nostalgia for the original. The remake introduced me to the franchise. Also the infantry on the deck of boss 1 were in the original. They're just sprites, but they're there. The camera rotation is triggered when the button is released, rather than pressed. The dodge roll in Dark Souls works the same way. I imagine this was done to avoid misinputs when rotating the camera 180 degrees by pressing both shoulder buttons. I gotta say I also really like the new compositions. I think that they can stand on there own because of the stylistic differences, and in that way they can match the originals because let's be honest it's very rare that remixes ever replace the originals. I also noticed that the remixes have a more technological feel to them. For example the synth section in "flight" that plays while you're inside the central building right before the boss. I think it works given the technological theme that runs throughout the series. I hope that Saori also composes for the Zwei remake. I'm itching for a new arrangement of "the unexpected enemy". Another thing you forgot to mention is that the new patch added new hit sounds for the arrows of light, and that the dragon's hurt screech was changed. I also think that the opening cutscene replaced one of the camera shots after the rider boards the dragon, and I also think that the cutscene before episode 6 also had a small change. Nevertheless, good review, I'm also anticipating the next few patches. But I wouldn't say the remake is a total loss. The Steam version will probably receive mods that change the visuals and sound, maybe even gameplay changes. Any chance you'll cover the future patches?

7:35 the infrantry dudes are there too in the original.

18:14 Hey, After Burner Climax is a PS3 game and I'm gonna be honest...PDRemake doesn't come close. Kinda glad the other versions are coming out later. The first game is a landmark title but the true test will be how they handle Zwei - an artistic achievement and a master work of the medium.

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4 жыл бұрын

I still need to play that version of After Burner. It looks slick.

Just got this for my PS4 Pro for 1.99 on a sale! Hopefully it's good enough to justify that price lol. Maybe they improved it over the last 3 years? I'm downloading it now, so I'll find out soon!

Damn dog we still in the refractal period from virtual cop

I'll have to strongly disagree with you on art direction. It objectively hits entirely different notes, if you subjectively enjoy that - that's another story. But it carries the shiny glib pastiche vibes of a disney VHS cover rather than any kind of japanese interpretation of franco-belgian art.

Are you sure the Sonic 2006 team didn't put this together? You know, I completely forgot about this as I was so swept up in gaming on the next generation consoles. That was a hellish undertaking that consumed most of my 2020 (it's a long story). It does however have a great ending as we (fiancee and I) secured both the Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 *physical at launch. We did it totally on the level through a GameStop hold the scalpers. ;) At any rate, I have always wanted to play this and I'm hoping it's now fixed as it's been a year. By any chance have you played it recently? I'm hoping by now it is fixed.

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2 жыл бұрын

A lot of the major issues were fixed, though it still doesn’t look like a current Gen game. I enjoy the PC version, its mouse controls are real comfy and the frame rate can get nice and high. I keep starting the process of making a follow up video about PDR without actually finishing it.

@Sinn0100

2 жыл бұрын

@@PandaMoniumReviews Thank you for the excellent reply. I have loved the Panzer Dragoon series since the first time I laid eyes on it. It was quite literally the first game I played to ring in the new 5th generation. I bought a Sega Saturn and PlayStation the day Sony launched their console. When I got them home the only thing I cared about was my Saturn. My brand new launch PlayStation sat on the floor of my bedroom unopened because I wanted to, no needed to finish Panzer Dragoon first. Too me, it was a true tour de force that looked hands down better than anything else out at the time. The music was absolutely sublime and so clear. Panzer Dragoon was such an experience in '95 that I thought Sega was poised to smack everyone around. Yes, their advertisements were batshit insane but this too me was the proof the Sega Saturn had the goods to deliver and that was its starting point. Unfortunately, not many people gave it a chance...

You still planning to do a Disc Two update video since the game's been patched a ton and has been out on other platforms for a while now?

@PandaMoniumReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s still on my to-do list. I haven’t gotten around to it yet, but it’s definitely time. I for sure want to finish it before the Zwei remake comes out.

@rkitchen69

Жыл бұрын

​@@PandaMoniumReviewsstill on the list? Lol. I hear the patches took this from okay to great. Just downloaded on PS5 for a whopping £1.99!Bargain.

well, it's $2.50 today, so I got it on Switch and Steam...

I've one thing to say: Panzer Dragoon Orta 4K on the Xbox One X. Five seconds of that game put this oversaturated cheap plastic toy looking mess to shame. And that's before considering major problems like the shadows having a seizure at 16:30 or the poor drawing distance. Maybe if Panzer Dragoon had never gotten a sequel I could understand the argument that this is what the world was intended to look like all along without the technical limitations. But it did get sequels, and it did go on into the next generation where they could go all out with their vision, which looks nothing like this.

I beat on Xbox. I like it

Nah that very first level was on the open water. It had a huge scope. This one just feels crowded and kinda dingy looking. If the original Panzer Dragoon never existed, and this game came out today as its own original creation, I don't think anyone would be praising its visuals.

Laughed at the genius SSG comment 🤣

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4 жыл бұрын

Frank Hardy He’s an absolute G.

Panzer Dragoon Intro Original Saturn Version in HD remastered here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZmVt1JqQYNe5n6Q.html

who is here in 2024? issues has been fixed? too bad they didn not retaines the moebius cover from japanese saturn release.

The dragon bobs up and down too much. Very distracting!

It's going to come out on stronger hardware. Switch is weak as fuck anyway

First! (Yeah, I am that guy.)

@PandaMoniumReviews

4 жыл бұрын

Good job dude!