Paladin dying Ark of the Covenant style is incredible. 10/10 DMing.

@pentheclickety

10 ай бұрын

Wasn’t kidding saying they were a high DnD vet

@schwarzerritter5724

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, it was way too late to stop Cleric from leaving. Yeah, she said "scheduling", but that is what people say when they don't want to say the real reason. I know that this is much easier to say than do, but Paladin should have been removed from the voice chat the moment he attempted PvP.

@monsunoguy19

10 ай бұрын

Insert Paralyzer.

@bouncycomix

10 ай бұрын

​@@schwarzerritter5724Ehh, there's a reasonable shot it actually is schedule problems. Life likes to throw curveballs at people and doesn't care about your plans. Schedule conflicts are commonly joked about as the biggest villain in dnd for a good reason.

@starofjustice1

10 ай бұрын

ikr?

I used to be confused when people said it was a red flag if paladin is your favorite class but seeing how theyre played in stories like this yeesh i guess i understand. And here i am playing all my paladins as big heavy metal teddy bears that want to help puppies cross the street.

@Arcticmaster1190

10 ай бұрын

Paladin gets a bad rap because there’s just too many players who like the power that Paladins offer but without any of the principles of what they embody. The players themselves likely need a talking to that reminds them that, irregardless, they need to be working with a group. If they are unable to do that, they need to fuck off. Same with the Rogue players.

@Nathan-ti9pm

10 ай бұрын

All my Paladin characters die lol it’s my cursed class I guess my clerics and rogues always survive and kick ass

@ArcCaravan

10 ай бұрын

Not even just in tabletop games, it feels incredibly common in fiction to treat paladins and religious orders as corrupt churches.

@The_Young_Lion

10 ай бұрын

As a fellow Paladin main, I hear you. Conquest is my favorite oath, but I tend to work with my DM to implement hard roleplay limits to them. For my first Paladin, it his Peace Cleric wife. For my current Paladin, it’s using his oath to establish and keep law and order

@ChrisHarperBooks

10 ай бұрын

My Paladin Teifling would have smitted that jerk's butt the second he tried to attack the cleric. Dude is giving Paladins a bad name. Glad he got Indiana Jones'd.

ANYONE who thinks Grave Cleric is a 'weak subclass' is not only dumb, they deserve whatever happens when the cleric doesn't heal them. Because if a grave cleric is in the party the only way you die is if they let you.

That Paladin was basically just a bully, ultimately glad he was killed as I would of been heartbroken if that Tiefling was killed.

@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259

7 ай бұрын

You feel sympathy for gta characters too?

@gregjayonnaise8314

6 ай бұрын

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259lol what’s that got to do with anything?

@SUPERSONICGIRLIFY

2 ай бұрын

Just a person that lacks empathy. They're not worth the time. Feeling for fictional characters is not weird or a waste of time, or whatever that guy's trying to get at. @@gregjayonnaise8314

That Tiefling story could’ve in theory been an interesting plot thing if the Paladin and Cleric talked about it and if he didn’t try to kill her

@ArcCaravan

10 ай бұрын

Assuming the player cared about having such a story. Or the Cleric were okay with a forced one-sided rivalry.

@danielcardona2714

10 ай бұрын

@@ArcCaravan right right that goes without saying

@amuro9624

9 ай бұрын

Honestly I feel like it was an overreaction from the dm trying too hard to control what kind of story is being told. I think having things like that can add spice to a campaign. Having a sort of antagonist in the party is interesting sometimes, maybe other players could have been more involved in defending the tiefling creating a sort of push and pull dynamic.

@pinkpugilist

9 ай бұрын

Okay, I dunno how the DM not letting the Paladin straight up murder his companion is "overreacting". It was clear the Paladin's player had it out for this person, either because they didn't like the character she made, or he just wanted to bully the new girl. No one gleefully says "it's not pvp if she's not fighting back" because they have the game's interest in mind. COULD a Paladin having to get over his close-minded views to accept his tiefling companion be a worthwhile story? Of course! I literally had a similar situation in one of my campaigns. The setting was a very church-led country, so my tiefling literally had to hide who she was. And there was tension when her secret got out between her and the Paladin. But with time, he realized she was still the supportive bard that she had been before her secret was out. That wouldn't have been interesting or fun if the Paladin just gutted my character immediately.

@SeleneDethly

9 ай бұрын

@@pinkpugilist I'm glad to see that others agree that the concept, has plenty of legs. It's almost natural that a Paladin might be racist or mistrustful of Teiflings. There is a whole lot you can do with that. Heck some of the best duos, start as people that hate each other at first and get over their issues. That said, this has to all be above board and agreed with with everyone. And just straight up killing another player is wrong in every possible way. The Paladin totally got the end he deserved.

okay so a little racism in game can be fun character development like "I don't trust because reasons" but shortly over time, like Gimli and Legolas, they basically have an epic bromance that's unshakable, but that paladin was a right dick and DM did well polishing him off.

The Paladin dying is probably one of the best ways of punishment I have heard in a while.

01:16 The real moral of that story is: Don't hit up random people to do your kink RP with. You can find communities with relative ease online for that, its not that hard.

@TheGhostFart

10 ай бұрын

yeah definitely don't expect random strangers to be cool with your degeneracy just because they don't mind nsfw

@Demongunner7

10 ай бұрын

@@TheGhostFart I mean, it’s a lack of common sense that gets me. Everyone has their interests, but with some you need to find the right crowd to divulge them with.

@nvzblgrrl

10 ай бұрын

These types are sadly recurring if you're any kind of creative- RP, art, fanfic. Put out any kind of open request? Someone who never interacted with you shows up to ask for something their hyperspecific thing (even if you set out rules beforehand). Post any kind of fic? 'Hey would you like to write this super specific thing that you've never done anything like tonally or in any fandom related to'? And they never want to pay for it. I've done 🔞 art and fic a few times, but for specific people - which I say. Still doesn't stop the choosing beggars from pulling up and then flipping you off when you say 'commissions aren't open'.

@nvzblgrrl

10 ай бұрын

Also if someone is pulling up to randos trying to get their fix, it's usually because they burnt up all their good will in the communities for that specific thing. Smart kinksters know how to behave and delineate the different parts of their lives.

@Deadpool-ri3rq

10 ай бұрын

I’m literally in a server for people to find NSFW games in. I’ve been running 4 games for a while, it’s going great! I’ve never met someone who’d be insane enough to bring up NSFW DnD up around people outside the server. It’s just weird.

I'm imagining a paladin trying to kill Jester from Critical Role, who is also a Tiefling Cleric. If she didn't kill his ass, the rest of the party would.

@mamba-do-u

10 ай бұрын

Jester might've been one of the Nein's strongest, insane versatility and stats that would put a lot of min maxed characters to shame

I made a summoning druid. Summoning things was my whole gimmick and the DM understood the "they choose" portion of the spell, but decided to let me choose to make things easier for themselves. I decided to make things easier for all of us and had a small list of go-to summons with stat blocks on hand and I made the executive decision to not be an a-hole about it and not to do cheesy things just because. We had fun and a lot of laughs due to animals just popping up out of nowhere in a multitude of settings. I even took a tip from Lord of the Rings and eagled us out of some trouble we were having and never used them again. Unsure where I was going with with this except that it can work, you just have to communicate and respect each other enough not to ruin other's fun.

@QueenElzaim

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. I played a summon focused Shepherd Druid from 3-20 and it was a balancing act a lot of the time but so long as you actually respect your dm and party it can be done well. Takes a bit more work on the players end to have stat blocks prepared and you have to be willing to not always choose only the strongest options but it can be totally reasonable even if the DM let's the player pick.

@Thrythlind

9 ай бұрын

I like the way pet subclasses have worked in recent publications. Like my battle-smith's steel defender is effectively a feature since I use my bonus action to defend her. Scion 2e also has Followers. Where Followers basically function as equipment for your character. For example, if my character were to order my secretary to go do a bureaucratic thing then I'd roll my attribute + the higher of the follower's rating or my leadership skill for the action with the benefits of whatever traits I bought the follower with. Likewise if I were to build a unit of soldiers.

That last group thought grave clerics were weak because they can't heal well in combat? Speaking as someone who has played one i cannot let that slide. First, it's better to let your allies hit 0 hp before healing them because you heal them for max when you do because of their level 1 ability. Second, making creatures vulnerable to damage at lv 2 and the ability to negate critical hits turning them into normal are game changing abilities. On top of being a cleric, one of the strongest classes in 5e, you know what you can do with 4 of them.

@chadnorris8257

10 ай бұрын

I've played in a group with a grave cleric. They are definitely not weak. 10/10 would gravewalk again.

@Drakon_Minaka

10 ай бұрын

I played grave cleric for a bit. I had a mix of healing and damage spells but primarily focused on healing with beacon of hope and my level 1 ability. I used healing sparingly, only saving it for the badly wounded and the downed, and thankfully due to their other first level ability, stabilizing anyone I cannot heal right away with distanced spare the dying. Grave cleric is amazing.

@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist

10 ай бұрын

I watched Critical role, and Talesin (I know I’m butchering his name.) Saved his group numerous times from crits, and then using Bane, and Death Ward. They did more healing as well than their other Cleric, nothing wrong with that, she was more a support Cleric as part of the Trickery domain, and used Modify memory once to a massive effect. It was pretty hilarious in one episode, where she had that one spell that lets you divy up 700 HP to characters, that spell cast one time was 30% of her healing over the course of nearly 150 sessions, which is something a lot of people were talking about. Haha came in clutch though. The guy that played the Grave Cleric though prevented a ton of damage over time, with the crit canceling mechanic alone. Haha. As they say, prevention is better than the cure.

@pink_parade2900

8 ай бұрын

Exactly if I was playing a grave cleric and my group said I was weak I would just single out the fighter, hold person, path to the grave, max upcast inflict wounds and take them down half health in a single hit. Then just keep b*tchslapping them ‘til they’re unconscious.

Always wild to hear about a paladin being played as if it was a chaotic evil character

@bthsr7113

10 ай бұрын

With more self moderation, I'd say lawful stupid evil.

@fukyomammason

10 ай бұрын

I assume anyone playing Paladin is like that until proven otherwise. A lot of people pick it so they can be tyrannical dickheads. “I’m a paladin, so I’m a good guy, therefore everything I do is good because I’m doing it.” The sort of person James Baldwin warned us about.

If you want to RP biases or negative relationships, run it by the other people in the party first so they know what's happening and to make sure they don't find that kind of thing annoying, reassure them OOC regularly that everything is chill and there's no actual ill will, listen when they say something bothers them (you could even work that into RP as a humanizing bonding moment if you're both down and it fits with their character), and OBVIOUSLY talk to them and the DM OOC before going down any routes that would drastically affect the story or hurt their character. If you aren't doing that you're not "roleplaying", you're being an asshole.

@realdragon

10 ай бұрын

Honestly that could be last minute decision tho

@Lanoira13

10 ай бұрын

@@realdragon In this situation it clearly wasn't. And even when it is, still no excuse to not say "Hey I have this idea for rp, what do you think".

@ethanrose9682

10 ай бұрын

I've had a rivalry in-character before that even went all the way to PvP (twice, we're 1 to 1 if you're curious, I lost the lower level fight and won the higher level one), and both of us have been having a blast with it. My character was nearly killed by Blood Hunters tricking her, so for most of the campaign, she's HATED the Blood Hunter in our party. We're nearing session 100 and she only really started trusting him like... Around session 70? And that's mostly because his girlfriend (the bard) got her to loosen up a bit and calm her down. The banter has been AWESOME.

weird thing i've noticed- i've been in a similar situation to black redacted in the intro, having someone's weird nsfw stuff shoved on me in rp, and there's this pattern where all the characters people like this have are named really jarringly mundane things. like, they'll describe something extremely niche and explicit and the character is named Mike Smith

@dancingbymoonlt

10 ай бұрын

The more mundane the name the easier it is for them to project themselves onto the character.

@tarotsushima3332

10 ай бұрын

It's because all the brainpower is used in fleshing out the kink aspects.

@TheWykedKara

10 ай бұрын

It's definitely used as an attempt to normalize kinks and fetishistic behavior (which in most cases is fine btw) it's to make you see that or Greg Phillips over there he could have a furry fetish, you just never know.

@pumpkinicing

10 ай бұрын

@TheWykedKara in my experience, it's more like "guys creeping on underage rpers are uncreative" lol

Interesting note: the scene you used with Aragorn. The actor actually broke his toe kicking the helmet. I can only imagine the DM "you are encumbered. Your movement speed is reduced by 10ft. Also you brake your toe for arguing with me. You lose another 5ft.

@sjninja

10 ай бұрын

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@LokiToxtrocity

10 ай бұрын

So he would be left with a movement speed of 5ft, since halflings have a movement speed of 20ft.

@emberfist8347

10 ай бұрын

@@LokiToxtrocity More life 2ft. Vigo Morten went through hell and back while filming. The two toes he broke were least serious of the injuries he faced (he also nearly drowned and most of the fight with Lurtz including the blows and the scene where blocks the knife were real, Lurtz's actor was basically half-blind under the all the make-up).

That first one wasn't a furry situation but specifically a fetish, part of it being a realistic but very badly thrown together dog costume weirdly commonly Dalmatians

@sinfulloccultist950

10 ай бұрын

Fully agree! Was gonna comment that it was more akin to pet play, _especially the collar_ , than furry. If the fetish _was_ furry related it would've probably just be an overt sexualization of one of the many anthro races DnD has to offer

I've got a bit of a recent horror story. It's not nearly as bad as some of these horror stories here, but it did leave me feeling very dejected and not having much fun at all. My character (Naive elven Druid) watched a young boy get his hand chopped off for stealing food because he was starving, and my character felt horrible for him. I spend 2 weeks IRL planning out a cool side scene with the Fighter (she wanted to vandalize the guard station for unrelated reasons so we figured we'd sneak out together.) Everyone at the table, DM included, KNOWS that I've been planning this scene where I go, find the boy, heal his hand, and give him food. I figure it would be a wonderful character growth moment for my Neutral Good Druid. The session starts, we set out, I Wild Shape into a tiny animal to get in, I pass many checks to get down and investigate some drunk guards. Empty cells. I search the holding cell for paperwork on the boy. Nothing. Confused and not sure where to go, I find Fighter outside and we start making more plans. I start asking if I can Wild Shape into something else to track the smell, etc, and so on. Every idea is met with a No. Finally, the DM sighs and goes, "You guys kinda made something out of nothing. This was never supposed to be a big thing. It's kinda just been a waste of time." Me, naturally frustrated and feeling like an idiot, just replies, "So I don't get any closure? I can't find the boy at all?" Dm just shrugs and repeats that I made a whole deal out of nothing. Angry about this (because DM KNEW I was planning this mini side quest for weeks now) I just concede and check out of the game. I give one word answers and am not feeling creative at all. I hardly even want to play because I feel like I've wasted everyone's time and my own, and I'm torn between crying at the table or just leaving. The next morning (in game) the DM has guards wake us up, looking for whoever vandalized the guard station, and Fighter quickly insists we leave town before they can find us. Only in the middle of town, as I'm sitting there at the table completely uninterested, does the DM make a note to me saying "you see the boy from before with only one hand..." So, in essence, he gives me the little 5 minute scene that I wanted. Only after he made me feel stupid for suggesting it. He allowed me to waste 20 minutes or so looking for clues, telling me it wouldn't happen, and crushed my creativity, just to give me the little scene anyway, with a kind of, "see? All you had to do was wait." sort of jab. It annoyed me a lot. It makes me not want to encourage role-play next time. What could have been a really nice scene of my Neutral Good Druid being a lovely friend to all, turned into a very sour point all because the DM didn't want to RP a quick scene. He's guilty of doing this a lot, actually. This was by far the worst one, but he's had many moments of grinding roleplay to a halt to try and correct me on something that's a non-issue. Like the time I was trying to fill a 10 minute roleplay scene by asking my character's best friend if he had any old photo albums. So instead of getting a cute little scene where we all talk about the past together until the session is up, it comes to a grinding stop so the DM can argue "cameras don't exist. It would be paintings. They don't have photographs here." Instead of simply hand-waving some kind of magic photography or whatever that would allow us to talk about fun moments in character. It's getting really annoying to me and he does not take any amount of constructive criticism, ever. He gets very moody and defensive. It's very childish.

@Nesseight

10 ай бұрын

As you leave town, you see the one armed boy hanging dead from the gallows. At the base of the gallows there is a "wanted" board with a painting of the boy pinned to it, among with those of other criminals, with the caption, "wanted dead for thievery." The boys painting has a freshly painted red X drawn through it. This hanging must have taken place as you were busy searching for him. The brawny executioner walks up with his great axe to cut the rope, but as he swings he slips a bit on some ice and instead servers the boy's head which lands squarely at your feet, his mouth slightly ajar and his eyes rolled up into the back of his head. Blood spills upon your feet.

@katieweasley4

10 ай бұрын

@@Nesseight I feel like I'd almost have preferred this level of in-depth improv to the condescending response I got just asking for a 5 minute scene lmao Also that is EVIL and I'm STEALING THAT IDEA

I wish we could have heard more details about the Paladin's reaction before getting kicked.

@wolfgam3rplayz

10 ай бұрын

He was going to say WTF when he got kicked

@Thrythlind

9 ай бұрын

same... ah well. Probably better he didn't get the chance.

Before you even finish the story with Jack, I could tell right away what kind of person he was. Just like a cheater frequently will often speak out against cheating and say they would have a 0 tolerance. Et cetera, et cetera. Their hate of the subject is a smokescreen for their own misdeeds.

I have a player who knows a lot of rules/monster stat blocks, and is a bit autistic/has ADHD, and he sometimes accidently speaks above the table on what's happening or what's going on. But, dangit, he tries his best and I can't fault him for it! He doesn't attack based off his outside knowledge even when it's obvious he knows it and I really appreciate him for it. I just draw the line at looking up stats during the fught but if anyone is curious they can look it up afterwards. My stance is if there's an issue with metagaming at your table, you can just change up monsters. Heck, it would be cool if you even flavor it like it's a mutant and irregular member of its species. If you're a DM, you can change whatever you want about enemies.

Thanks for reading my story Crispy

Tiefling being an outcast is an old school D&D thing. I believe it was in the books that, in Forgotten Realms, Tieflings are discriminated against due to their infernal legacy. They were literally seen as the spawn of devils, and a common backstory for a tiefling would be being born of normal parents and somehow born a tiefling and abandoned due to that. It would be similar to Drows due to how their empires looked down on others and enslaved them, hence why Drizzt is considered such an important character. *Anyway, the important thing is that racism is wrong.* Characters do wrong things, especially due to flaws. *As long as the player knows that and makes it clear their character is wrong, I think it's ok to portray that in the story.* Especially if they want to build a redemption arc. That can be a pretty powerful and fulfilling thing for everyone when it pays off. *And obviously, that paladin's player is an absolute prick if the OP is telling the truth.* It clearly wasn't even about the character being a tiefling. They just wanted to exert power onto others in-game, using "that's what my character would do" excuse in the form of the character being a tiefling.

Aragorn lost the movement speed caused he broke his toe kicking that helmet (in the clip used, he kicked the helmet wrong and broke a toe, it is a very real scream of pain there)

Nothing like listening to rpg horror stories while playing a pokemon nuzlocke.

@mentok1

10 ай бұрын

Same here, which pokemon you playing?

@basicallyseth6024

10 ай бұрын

@@mentok1 Inclement Emerald

@mentok1

10 ай бұрын

@@basicallyseth6024 nice, I'm running Y.

Racist Paladin Story: IMO the problem wasn't even that the character was a racist, it was that the player was an asshole. One of my current characters is a Hobgoblin Samurai who hates elves (except drow, because they also hate other elves) and spends his free time composing haikus about how much elves sucks and hobgoblins rule. But he also doesn't attack elves on sight, though he's still kinda a jerk to them. I've played with the same group for over a year now, so everyone I play with knows I'm not actually bigoted against elves in RL.

@davidtherwhanger6795

10 ай бұрын

Oh I don't know. If you find any elves in real life they probably deserve it. Those fast talking, stuck up, long eared galloots!

@realdragon

10 ай бұрын

I actually wanna play orc who hates elves but have no idea how elves look like

@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN

8 ай бұрын

@@realdragon Anything that speaks in rhymes .

@realdragon

8 ай бұрын

@@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN no

it would be funny if cleric and paladin had the same god

Interesting story, the clip of Aragorn used is one where Vigo Mortensen broke his toe kicking a helmet, so it fits

"The Grabber" sounds like (if you're not playing creepy D&D) a creature that specializes in grappling and incapacitating players/creatures, like an advanced version of some of those creatures that can already do that, maybe with the ability to grapple multiple individuals at once.

Story 1: There's a reason why Fireball is a meme spell, everyone uses it a lot. Its a good source of cheap damage in early levels. But there is a reason why when people aren't jokingly saying "I cast Fireball" to actually use other spells aside from Fireball. Cause what are you gonna do when you finally face an enemy that is resistant or immune to Fire Damage? Unless you're a Sorcerer or have Meta Magic Adept with Transmute Spell, Fireball isn't gonna help...

As soon as I read the title I was like, “I experienced something similar but with shorter races, except it was more of the lines of funny jabs (both parties are in agreement and didn’t take things too far in character) and small person tossing that ended in character fighting which my character intervened”. It was more of a Grimil and Legolas relationship rather than right out racism.

@realdragon

10 ай бұрын

Racism? Honestly why not, if whole table is fine with it

@allenfox7186

10 ай бұрын

@@realdragon my table is fine with rivalries/ slight racism, as long as it’s not disruptive and ok with both parties in said rivalry/ racist behavior towards. My character is a bit racist towards humans due to backstory reasons but if he had to work with them he tolerates them to a certain extent.

Nothing boils our blood as hard as betrayal. What the carp, DM? I would try to find that DM meself in their place and have a talk.

That intro. 😂 Can you imagine if magic was real in our world, potentially available by birth to sociopaths like that Bard whose tantrums apparently summon wolves.

Omg. “What, it’s not my fault. You’re the one who equipped it.” Had me dying.

That Dm with the paladin story was the MPV of all time, no cap

○Prologue: The DnD table is not the place for kink. Unless you make a group specifically for kink dnd, in which case you have an entirely differnt horror story in the works. ●Story one: Abusing summoning spells isnt "cheeky", it's often a boring form of powergaming ●Story two: More or these kind of problem paladins (probladins?) need this kind of ending. ●Story three: Not much to say. Im a big advocate for reskinning stuff, though. Fresh coat of paint cam do a lot for any monster/item/spell. ●Story four: Glad to see OP found a new group in the end. Abusive groups have made a lot of people leave the hobby entirety.

I'm glad the DM didn't just let the Paladin get away with attacking the Claric & not only kicked them from the game but dealt with their character in the perfect way too

I don't think the idea of hating Tieflings or massively distrusting them is inherently bad (it's spot-on, lore accurate for the standard settings). But I have always thought if you want to play a character like that, (especially if another player is the type of creature in question), it's something that needs to be discussed with the table so everyone can decide if they want to sign on for that kind of thing, and if anyone isn't down for it, then play something else (which is really how every mature or controversial theme should be introduced, with consent from everyone else at the table). And the player who decided to play that character to begin with needs to be ready to deal with the consequences that come from playing a piece of shit person. I had a duergar that was an awful bastard of a man and I made it clear with our group what he was going to be like and that it was fine with me if they just tossed his ass off a bridge at any point because of it too. If a deity had come down and smote him in front of everyone, it would have been hilarious (he got his ass roasted by a gold dragon instead).

@realdragon

10 ай бұрын

In paladin's defense, he might not know another player plays thiefling and it was last minute decisoin

I believe the real horror stories are the "friends" we make along the journey.

Paladin: All tieflings are evil! Tiefling: From my point of view the paladins are evil! Paladin: Then you are lost!

The tiefling story is hilarious to me since literally the only evil character I've ever played was an aasimar. And folks you better believe I used the groups' assumption against them. The following is just expanding on that some, so completely unnecessary to read unless you're interested in some character/game story: I don't usually go for evil characters but this was in my group where everyone else frequently did. I was going to be leaving the table for basic in a couple months so I just asked the GM what he needed NPC wise and made one of them as a PC so he could control my character once I left. The whole build was basically all about "looking" harmless and soft while feeding info to the BBEG the whole time (I did NOT have any additional character perks outside of a book that allowed me to communicate with the BBEG). The character was an aasimar druid (so, to that group's way of thinking, a goody goody healer), who looked like a girl (he was actually a guy, the art I drew of him looked gender neutral tho and they just assumed he was a she), who was "disabled" (the group thought he was mute while the character just didn't like them, and didn't hide it well at all, and therefore didn't want to talk to them), and was the child of one of the fairly important "good guys" (who abandoned his son where the BBEG could get his hands on him). The party assumption that my character was good in spite of exponentially increasing evidence to the contrary (I really did try to make it more obvious as the game went on, they were supposed to kill me or at least find me out before I left) was super frustrating for everyone involved and I'd never choose to go such a route again even if the GM begged me to. As a direct result of this game, I wasn't really able to play with this group again whenever I was home because they assumed every single character I played afterwards was also evil. Again, hilarious considering how many NPC heads these AHs had chopped off with zero provocation. If you looked up "murder hobo" in the dictionary you'd probably see a picture of these guys. But nah, the girl of the group kills one (completely sedated) NPC with her one evil character ever and it's just treated like "that's who she really wants to play." Spoiler alert, I'm team true neutral all the way most of the time, CN if the character (race/class) required it (not really an issue these days), and NG the rest. GM and I basically just assume they got butt hurt that I, a girl who got into TTRPGs after they did, "pulled one over on them." Never mind that I wasn't trying and desperately had not wanted to do anything of the sort. I'd been hoping they'd figure it out and try to/successfully murder me.

@ArcCaravan

10 ай бұрын

Sounds like a previous tabletop horror story on the channel where an unwinnable encounter lead to a player setting themself up as a sequel villain so the current villain would be defeated, which led to the other players to badger the DM into retconning it so the players won with morality intact while not only kicking that now evil character's player from the group but also making it so that player can't play at any table they can get their hands on. Really scummy of that table and your old table doesn't sound much better.

@ayceinquisitor190

10 ай бұрын

It sounds like to me they dont respect you. Murderhobos who blindly assumed you were good, then blindly assume you're always evil.....it's quite obvious theyve got some issues.

@connorjohnson8590

10 ай бұрын

That's a sucky situation. That being said, it probably wouldn't hurt to try to talk it out. Explain that it was a role presented by the DM and that you only played it to suit the DM's needs. If they are worth sticking around and playing with again, they'll understand. If not, no D&D is better than bad D&D, at least with that group.

@missingaria2503

10 ай бұрын

@@connorjohnson8590 Oh this was over a decade ago now. I moved on to PFS mostly which has no evil characters at all so we don't really have that issue. It was very much a HS/college group.

@missingaria2503

10 ай бұрын

@@ayceinquisitor190 at one point in the game we ended up the caretakers of 2 INCREADIBLY important kiddos for the game. ICly we knew they were important. The group (with zero coaxing from me) left the kids in my charge exclusively. When my character relayed this to the BBEG, the BBEG said "suggest bringing the kids to me" so that's what my character did. I assume the GM thought the group would at least start becoming suspicious of me when I suggested that but NOPE. Group thought it was a grand idea with minimal convincing. I'm assuming they were trying to turn it into an evil game where THEY became evil and maybe overthrew the BBEG in the end? Instead it just ended up being the most awkward, unexpected "group meets the BBEG for the first time" I've ever had. XD

Me in character: alright, have fun surviving without support.

Characters who start out hating each other can have a great arc where they come to accept and trust one another. Shame too many people do it the wrong way like Paladin

@linda-0587

10 ай бұрын

Naruto and Shinji/Sauske or Goku/Vegeta for example

@ArcCaravan

10 ай бұрын

It would probably help if players agreed to have characters hate each other and grow out of it instead of expecting it'd happen automatically.

I try to avoid metagaming by asking my DM if my character would know anything about the entity in front of me. He'll usually ask me to roll a history check. If I succeed, I'm not metagaming. If I fail, I'll try to do something less than ideal on purpose just to make sure I'm not metagaming. Or maybe my character's spidey sense is tingling and just wants to nope out of there. Sometimes the consequences of doing the wrong thing are just as fun as if I had done the right thing as long as the party isn't put in danger or overly inconvenienced. It also doesn't hurt to ask the DM if the action I'm about to take can just affect me rather than the party. There are also some cases where the DM ruled that based on the world we were in or my character's backstory, I would have some knowledge of the entity and tell me what I know about them.

I get if people don't like/trust Tieflings - Could be backstory reasons, or maybe their character had a rough time before. Completely understandable character elements that can setup great character growth. But to straight-up PvP a fellow Party Member just cuz "TiEfLiNg BaAaAaD" when the DM said to cut it out, its like utter brain rot. You're not there at the table to play DnD, you're there to bully another player for their character race selection.

“Trolls regenerate and are weak to fire” - “oooo you meta gamer”

I had a Paladin of a sun god refuse my heals in a game once, not because I was a half-drow, but because I was a cleric of the goddess of Magic and Death, and like Lawful Neutral. It was very strange. But I shrugged, and kept the fighter healed instead. Outside of a few unkind words, the Paladin put up with me, even when I used control undead instead, as I couldn't turn undead (he did want the undead disposed of after the first wave of enemies were dealt with). Heh. He died in a fight several sessions later, and I honored his wish by not trying to cast raise dead on him, or even trying to heal him prior when I saw him about to die (I didn't even perform funeral rites, as I had done with multiple NPCs at that point). The fighter lived tho! That was a fun character.

OK, wait, wait. Unless the "Only Girl" one isn't a 5e story, the "Grave cleric CAN'T do" bit is just wrong. Both Grave and Death clerics are just subclasses of Cleric, so both have access to healing magic, just like any other cleric. Now, perhaps it was some in-game homebrew rule for flavor reasons, but that line just threw me off.

Why is that so many paladin player feel the need to RP their paladins and mindless zealots that never have an actual thought in their entire lives? It may not be all of them, thank Luna, but one is too many damn it. And we're way over the number one.

@linda-0587

10 ай бұрын

The last Paladin I played, technically a War Cleric, was similar, but she was very shrewd, and always sought evidence before drawing her weapons for *any* reason, unless it was a hostile demon, then….yeah Holy Rage cometh, but if a Demon proved to be an Ally (Tiefling, Warlock pet, etc), she’d still be wary, but she wouldn’t be driven insane and go “DEMON BAD! MUST KILL!”….except that…one time where she briefly got possessed, but we don’t talk about that >.

@marybdrake1472

10 ай бұрын

@@linda-0587 In other words the opposite of said paladin. That is the kind of player I can deal with. I'd probably be annoyed at points, but I can deal with someone like that.

@ArcCaravan

10 ай бұрын

Probably a desire to play a villainous Knight templar archetype. Or wanting all the power and none of the responsibilities.

@marybdrake1472

10 ай бұрын

@@ArcCaravan That's a good point Arc. Regardless, I never want to have to deal with that. It just ruins the game.

Lmao peace cleric not being a worse healer than life is hilarious.

DMs who complain about "metagaming" don't seem to realize that, in universe, adventurers tend to share information about the creatures they face in battle; they even (perish the thought) *write whole bestiaries* on the subject. This is, like, the whole reason Volothamp Geddarme even exists in the Forgotten Realms, or the Van Helsing-type guy in the Ravenloft setting.

@demonic_myst4503

10 ай бұрын

No their is no established lore on that unless the world has a guild the average dnd character isnt an adventurer and the average player character is new to adventuring a lebel one means your new and never adventured before thats the intent

@robertbryant4669

10 ай бұрын

@@demonic_myst4503 So your level one adventurer has never picked up a book? Or hung around in taverns or shops or other public gathering places where seasoned adventurers are likely to gather and swap lies about their battle prowess? Or listened to legends and tales told by the village elders? Do you have any idea how isolated a person has to be growing up to have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of the world that they live in? Even someone living by themselves in the wild would have to have some knowledge of the local flora and fauna to survive.

@demonic_myst4503

10 ай бұрын

@@robertbryant4669 most likely not What use is a farmboy in learning to read in the first place you know anything about literacy rates before modern era

@demonic_myst4503

10 ай бұрын

@@robertbryant4669 you are ignorant of how t(e world worked before the 1900s in 1700s their was still beleif that giants lived in south america rumors and info passed by travelers is legendery for being 90% bullshit

@demonic_myst4503

10 ай бұрын

@@robertbryant4669 you realise most the world was ducking isolated

The sheer volume of stories I hear about paladin players who don't understand the nature of their oaths (or even any concepts of basic morality outside of black and white stereotypes) baffles me.

Normally, I would welcome the paladin/teifling animosity. But that was too far. As for the first story, I have an issue with people even answering someone like rhat back instead of immediately blocking them.

@Lanoira13

10 ай бұрын

FR, there's nothing necessarily toxic about RPing animosity or ignorance or biases. Those dynamics and stories can be super interesting to have characters work through... IF everyone's on board. It's all about making sure you're communicating and coordinating with other players and RPing in a way that furthers the story and makes the game fun... not ruins it like that guy did.

@kaemonbonet4931

10 ай бұрын

It's the kind of thing that can be fun but you don't take adversarial roles with people you don't know. Also it's the kind of thing you have to talk about, take opportunities to be friendly ooc: so there isn't any question that you're playing.

"1v1 me!" (Summons 8 creatures) "How dare you call for help! That's cheating!"

Wow, already had the BG3 pic ready!!!

0:27 reminds me of the dean from community “i hope this doesn’t awaken anything in me” 😂

"UnDurfed" is pretty great tbh

3:47 Not even the stuff on WikiDot is that annoying. Even if it's cringe as hell, at least it's not repetitive. 12:51 It's not the homebrew hentai item I'm sure you're imagining; it's a rare magic item from the DMG, and it's used to help with grappling and restraining.

I now need to know what a Glaive Cleric would look like. Lol

Guy in the first story reminds of the memes about Megumi from JJk and how he keeps trying to summon Mahoraga in every fight

...in fairness I don't think Aragorn would have 7 strength...

We Paladin mains get such a bad reputation because of Lawful Stoopids like this

Commenting just because it helps the algorithms. Thanks for the entertainment, crispy

At lest Joshua Smith was upfront with it instead of making the almatian costume a surprise.

"We completed Mines, and started SKT". I actually had that happen too, funnily enough. Like the MoP was just the intro part of the greater campaign across the Swords Coast.

I have to admit, this title made me think of Ser Charibert from the vault in FFXIV. When I was hearing the story of that paladin I just kept hearing Ser Charibert in my head “sickness must be purged!”

Fully expected an inserted clip of the Dean from Community after the Dalmatian story. "I sure hope this doesn't awaken anything.."

I... have no words and I did indeed make it to the end.

The Nalfashne was the first Puffin video I saw!

1:04 I have to agree. Joshua Smith? It's an OC who can have any name you want and you picked Joshua Smith... 6:32 My favorite class is paladin and I want to cry already

Ah another dnd storyteller to add to my collection.

Dude that first guy was fr Dean Pelton from Community

@CrispysTavern

8 ай бұрын

Dean a ling a ling!

I don't think I've met anyone who uses conjure animals as written. Most of the time it's faster to just let the caster choose. As for adding up to 8 extra creatures to the field I can see how that can get annoying.

@CameronsVideo

10 ай бұрын

Yes the problem with running the spell as intended is that it takes far too long to resolve for the DM in a fair and balanced way. If the caster cannot choose the animals, that implies, it is actually random what they get (or based on where they are) and this require the DM to have tables ready for such a thing as determining what they get randomly. Or tables based on all terrain and world locations (chult should have dinosaurs after all). If you just pick, you end up in a position where you either aid the player or hinder them based on your decisions which will make the player feel like they don't have agency with their own spell and possibly even feel like they are being screwed over when they summon rats and cows instead of wolves. Then they just never use the spell ever and it might as well not even exist.

@demonic_myst4503

10 ай бұрын

The sample list is given for the dm to choos thats why it exists

(From the DMG) Tentacle Rod Rod, rare (requires attunement) Made by the drow, this rod is a magic weapon that ends in three rubbery tentacles. While holding the rod, you can use an action to direct each tentacle to attack a creature you can see within 15 feet of you. Each tentacle makes a melee attack roll with a +9 bonus. On a hit, the tentacle deals 1d6 bludgeoning damage. If you hit a target with all three tentacles, it must make a DC 15 Constitution saving throw. On a failure, the creature's speed is halved, it has disadvantage on Dexterity saving throws, and it can't use reactions for 1 minute. Moreover, on each of its turns, it can take either an action or a bonus action, but not both. At the end of each of its turns, it can repeat the saving throw, ending the effect on itself on a success. Dungeon Master´s Guide (BR) → DnD 5e Magic Items 

My monk player is an in game nudist, and it's Matt Mercer's fault... allow me to explain. My players were on a boat to get to Waterdeep, and the monk reasoned they could save a lot of fresh water if he didn't need to wash his underwear every day, so he forgo wearing it altogether. They were in the middle of the ocean so i allowed it and even let him preserve more resources. Then they come to Waterdeep and the monk decides he doesn't want to lose his new bonus, and decides to continue monking about in the nude. I, being a great DM and in no way at fault, knew the dragonheist campaign had a legal codex for waterdeep laws. But guess which law Mercer forgot to include in the codex, that's right, indecent exposure. 3 different laws exist to outlaw mind control, but nothing on dress codes. So now my monk is walking through the wealthiest city in D&D in the nude... And then there's the enlarge spell tattoo, RNGesus is to blame for that one.

@ArcCaravan

10 ай бұрын

I take it homebrewing a "no public nudity" law was out of the question?

@bellumdorf3360

10 ай бұрын

So yesterday I learned not to tick off Groetus(PF2e) via google and today I learned this....I'm concerned as to what tomorrow will bring.

@rabbitsrevenge1101

10 ай бұрын

@ArcCaravan Telling someone they can no longer do something after they've been doing it for a couple of weeks is a surprisingly challenging thing to do. And my players also saw pictures of beholder beasts and lizardmen walking around in the buff in the streets which led them to believe that dress codes are actually a form of speciesism...so I blame Matt Mercer.

Peace Domain clerics are nothing to sneeze at tbh... they are very good just like twilight domain

I'll never understand why some groups have such a problem with characters respecing. I don't need the game's permission to let a character swap spells, all I need to hear is my player telling me their build isn't working out. Sometimes character concepts don't pan out the way you want when you start playing and tweaks are needed. I want my players to have fun and chaining them to a build that isn't working is stupid. Obviously if I notice people are asking for respec every time they encounter difficulty a talk may be needed but that wasn't what was happening with the fire arrow swap. Hell, I might have fixed the problem with one word, now it's Holy Fire Arrow and demonic resistances are useless. "The Dark Fire shall not avail you!"

I visibly winced at that pronunciation 18:38

4e Warden wasn't bad, conceptually. Also 4e had a cool feat that made fire immunity count as resistance. Only thing 5e has that is similar is Pyro Sorc 18.

7:03 I think Classist might be more appropriate

I played a game once we're one of the guys in the party like to read the monster manuals for fun. I guess he just enjoyed them lol he only suffered a little from metagaming he was real good about keeping the stats to himself whether in game or out.

4:33 the change was made SPECIFICALLY for these kinds of shenanigans. It didn't used to work this way but the meme of the 8 raptors or iirc the 8 pixies that could all cast spells of their own blew up too much to not get addressed. So while, yes, the DM chooses technically most DMs will allow most players to get what they want flavor-wise. It's just the issue of being able to cheese every encounter with not just the right tool for the job but 8 of the right tool for the job.

Shouldn´t the tiefling being on church grounds without any issues already be enough to absolve them from any suspicion?`But no, apparently the vestments and her taking care of orphans was not enough to convince that guy.

@ArcCaravan

10 ай бұрын

What do you expect from a racist paladin, good reasoning skills? Those jerks just want an acceptable punching bag.

I feel like or the first story the obvious thing is just talk to the player. Let them know that summoning in a bunch of minions is cool but slows the game for everyone and can really unbalance an encounter, making it harder for the DM and difficult for other players to get the spot light. I'd suggest to that player that if they want to be. A summoner type character, use the spell to summon big creatures instead of a horde. Sure it's not as effect as a swarm but it's still very cool, does just fine, and won't mess up the game for anyone.

@ArcCaravan

10 ай бұрын

While the DM definitely seemed annoyed by the swarm summoning, the bigger issue was the player whining about an encounter that couldn't be swarmed to death.

@remraven6443

10 ай бұрын

@@ArcCaravan true but I feel like with most people that could be resolved with just 'Its only fun for you and makes it annoying/difficult for everyone else' Annnnnnd frankly if someone doesn't care that everyone else dislikes them doing that, I wouldn't want to play with them. You are right tho, the bigger issue is the player being super fussy.

As a DM I don't worry about metagaming... because I homebrew/edit all monsters. I like a personal touch to my encounters, so I rarely, if ever, run a straight book-made enemy. Surprises are fun!

I’m confused by healing. Great reading tho!

Speaking of Apex I really like how this series' main theme has different renditions like how apex does with a lot of their themes I wonder whom the two characters were in question though. Loba wouldn't have let revenant die because he wants to die. revenant wouldn't let loba die because he needs her to destroy his source code so he can die. I would have argued about the lore with that damn random

Jack: "No, MeTaGaMiNg!" Me: "Doth the "LADY" protest too much?"

nobody: A Joshua Smith who just started watching the video: 😱

Bro could have a had an interesting charater arc of learning to be a Paladin but also seeing the world if grey. But nope.

Not racism if you aren't the same species as the other, also gotta keep it in the game not out in reality. Honestly I'd refuse healing at first but if Tiefling constantly prooved they aren't evil I'd make my paladin change her mind and she might even start giving other species a chance to be good. I'd see it as a chance to grow and I think that'd make a deeper bond ic between the party members At least I think it'd do that

@Gilsao157

2 ай бұрын

The only good Tiefling is a dead Tiefling, now let's make those Tieflings good (except Neeshka from NW2, Neeshka was an cinnamon roll)

I have a feeling Joshua Smith is an actual person and this is probably someone trolling them. 😂

you can't use that destiny music in the background there, Crispy. my heart hAHAHAHA

the metagaming guy was projecting hard

Tieflings are one of my top 5 races to create characters for others are: Kolbolf,Goblins,Warforged and if homebrewed propely a fairy

About the something cheeky (minor spoilers for STK) My first thoughts are that gathering ALL of Gruhd Haug's residents for a match is absurdly unfair, as there's no way that a party of level 8 ish characters can handle that many giants, orcs, hobgoblins, etc. That being said, if the party sauntered in thinking that they could cheese it by challenging the chief, that's also very much on them. This really depends on whether the DM changed Guh as she appears in the adventure or not. If they didn't then it would have been a cakewalk for a spellcaster, because Guh is stuck in her chair and can't move on her own. If that was the case, then punishing the bard for calling for help was definitely deserved, and honestly quite clever. However, if Guh was moving around like a normal hill giant, then it would have been considerably harder for a normal bard to handle that. Probably impossible. At the end of the day though, there are better options for handling players who spam conjure animals. Talk to your players about it first, and see if a compromise can be established so they arn't relying on it. One clever idea my DM has (we're also currently playing STK and just finished Gruhd Haug🤙) is to increase the CR of the animals conjured by 1 category. This incentivizes summoning stronger and fewer enemies. Even though this option exists, however, I must point out I don't actually use Conjure Animals even though I could (ima ranger), and I don't for the same reason I didn't take Spike Growth. To me, they are the equivalent of spell junk food, they are strong at the expense of bogging down combat. As a DM, I've seen them in play enough times to not feel the need to use them.

0:25 - OKAY, where the hell is this one going?

0:33 - Sure, if you play as a Barbarian.

10:47 I am playing apex whilst listening to this 🤣🤣

People getting super sensitive over what is allowed meta gaming and what not can sometimes go into insane levels. I absolutely love playing as a Thiefling and in one of the campaigns where I played, the dungeon master got beyond upset about the fact that my character knew not to try to use fire against Thieflings bandits during an encounter. "Man I think she knows that her own kin has that feature after 58 years trying to survive a Thiefling war, where she has fought nothing but other Thieflings."

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