Open Loop vs Closed Loop Hydraulics

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A run down on 2 types of hydraulic systems and how they basically work.

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  • @brggmc
    @brggmc6 жыл бұрын

    A very well presented video, with clear uncomplicated use of English Language, and obviously well-prepared visual aids. 10/10 for this one!

  • @martynasvizbaras1180

    @martynasvizbaras1180

    6 жыл бұрын

    9/9 how do you fill the closed loop system with oil without tank, thats what i missed the most :(

  • @quentintaylor8254

    @quentintaylor8254

    6 жыл бұрын

    Brian Gillis Baie has

  • @carbon273

    @carbon273

    5 жыл бұрын

    13/13 I would like to reiterate the fact that THERE IS NO HEAVY TECHNICAL VOCABULARY! It is refreshing to watch an engineering video that is straightforward and visually aiding.

  • @carmichaelmoritz8662

    @carmichaelmoritz8662

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@martynasvizbaras1180 basically everything is built into the closed loop system . enough room for oil and the control valves. seems like the open system is more user friendly. easier to repair.

  • @joecvimedical
    @joecvimedical5 жыл бұрын

    This is the best, simple, practical explaination I have seen on youtube for this subject matter.

  • @samcorlsamuel9074

    @samcorlsamuel9074

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well stated👍

  • @millomweb

    @millomweb

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it is the best simple practical explanation but it's not bad for a beginner.

  • @googlebuchanan9047
    @googlebuchanan90474 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation how the hydraulic pump works.This gentleman makes it easy to understand

  • @VeryMuchBlessed
    @VeryMuchBlessed6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent demonstration. Thanks for taking the time to do this.

  • @jacksonvillereclaimedwood6709
    @jacksonvillereclaimedwood67093 жыл бұрын

    This is the best and most clearly explanation of closed and open loop systems I’ve ever seen. Thank you for the post!!

  • @raymond060
    @raymond0605 жыл бұрын

    Super nice presentation. Good understandable language, no dumb loud music. Thank you and keep up the good work

  • @teejay622
    @teejay6226 жыл бұрын

    Best explanation of this I've ever seen. Well done and thank you.

  • @victorsimukoko9304
    @victorsimukoko9304 Жыл бұрын

    The most excellent presentation ever. I've understood the concepts I've been missing for year.

  • @jaysonpiamonte.1010
    @jaysonpiamonte.1010 Жыл бұрын

    The best demonstration I found so far, it is really best to explain while showing the actual system work at the same time.

  • @Vgk36
    @Vgk36Ай бұрын

    The yeare is 2024 and this video is helping me with my A&P hydraulics class better than my instructor! Thank you so much for the amazing video!!!

  • @Akosyeah
    @Akosyeah6 жыл бұрын

    Really many many thanks for your your existence, and the videos you upload. I've been trying to understand the hydraulic system on the bulk carrier ships i work and you are definitely helping.

  • @prajeethk4348
    @prajeethk43486 жыл бұрын

    A very good video. Very well explained with the help of equipment. There are no clutters in the explanation and hence easy to understand. Thanks very much...

  • @romanibukharst9517
    @romanibukharst95177 жыл бұрын

    the best illustration of open and closed systems. thanks sir

  • @marvinguzman924
    @marvinguzman9243 жыл бұрын

    this was honestly a well made video. straight to the point. I learnt something today thanks.

  • @amitdevir5729
    @amitdevir57294 жыл бұрын

    Good presentation. In summary from my past experience as an ex hydraulic engineer. Closed loop systems primarily used in mobile applications where a compact design is needed and a direct, dual direction connection is required between a single pump and motor or motors. Advantages: compact design due to smaller tank, smaller hydraulic pipes, less valves. Disadvantages: expensive components, often variable dual direction pumps and/or motors, design limitations in adding additional end uses, unequal displacement end users users (such as standard cylinders). Open loop systems primarily used in static industrial systems. Advantages: lower component costs and unlimited design options, multi independent actuators from a single system. Disadvantages: bigger tank capacity required, bigger pipes on the return side, separate valves.

  • @amitdevir5729

    @amitdevir5729

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ask APT No, moved out of the field 21 years ago. Still very passionate about all hydraulic. While mechanically I would imagine the systems remained similar, I am sure on the control side, there have been good developments over the past 20 years. All the best.

  • @stephenlupanga1970
    @stephenlupanga19704 жыл бұрын

    wow i got this i thought it was going to trigger headache but the explanation has gone so well and i really enjoyed it thank you so much

  • @joshuastewart1718
    @joshuastewart17184 жыл бұрын

    Great video mate very descriptive. My favourite part was how you drew the hoses on the white board demostrating whats happening then showing us physically afterwards. Thank you for the content

  • @ingveldurst6297
    @ingveldurst62976 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely clear and concise. Brilliant. Thanks!

  • @capnchip
    @capnchip10 ай бұрын

    I taught hydraulics for John Deere techs at a Technical College. This presentation is SUPER GOOD. Every Tech should see this one. Great Job!!!

  • @philliphall5198

    @philliphall5198

    5 ай бұрын

    I also taught hyd and some folks just never really unstand how it works 😊 No matter how you explain it to them 😢 I loved working but had to retire at 68

  • @Brute750
    @Brute7503 жыл бұрын

    Very informative. Thanks for sharing. I just bought my first tractor and this will help me comprehend how to hydraulic systems work on it. God Bless.

  • @austensperry4163
    @austensperry41632 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful and informative! I loved the way you demonstrated your point: by sequentially adding parts and explaining the differences in the state of the loop as you went.

  • @ontheroadagain4773

    @ontheroadagain4773

    2 жыл бұрын

    But here is a flaw concerning the open loop system. Directional control valves are usually proportional. You can control the speed with the lever pretty well. You don't normally need any flow control valve that increases unneccessary pressure, energy consumption, heating and wear on the pump. On every tractor, loader, excavator etc with a fixed displacement pump for the working functions you control the hydraulic cylinders and even motors by the levers on the control valve and rarely any flow control valve is used. Controlling the speed of a cylinder is pretty much like controlling the speed of a motor.

  • @bobber5534

    @bobber5534

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ontheroadagain4773 Exactly. In most cases, you don't need a flow valve when you have a control valve that will do the same. The systems with solenoid control valves you do if you don't want full flow on part of the circuit.

  • @andrewf7049
    @andrewf70496 жыл бұрын

    This guy explains things so well. Natural teacher.

  • @YusufFitness
    @YusufFitness6 жыл бұрын

    Really well put together! learned loads! thanks dude!

  • @evolutionkorea8562
    @evolutionkorea85625 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. I learned practical things that i did not fully understand due to the limitation that i studied it through books only. Thanks. Keep it up please

  • @imeokon3818
    @imeokon38182 жыл бұрын

    A very excellent video presentation- clear, simple, and succinct. Many Thanks for this, really really appreciate it!

  • @Rajkumar_selvarajpandian

    @Rajkumar_selvarajpandian

    Ай бұрын

    Fantastic explanation,even a layman can understand ❤

  • @dptp9lf
    @dptp9lf3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome demonstration! Great job explaining this

  • @curtissiwak5349
    @curtissiwak53495 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video,,,like everyone said, very clear with vocabulary and visual aids and no annoying music

  • @sam111880
    @sam1118805 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation of the main two kinds of hydraulic system differences.

  • @36625366366
    @366253663664 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely perfect presentation!

  • @lukaskeremens2490
    @lukaskeremens2490 Жыл бұрын

    You the best hydraulics tutor on KZread right now,Respect🙇🏽‍♂️

  • @otiebrown9999
    @otiebrown99996 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation!

  • @behrozkohzadi314
    @behrozkohzadi3143 жыл бұрын

    It was clear, simple, and viable. Thank you so much.

  • @billomaticles
    @billomaticles29 күн бұрын

    wonderful accesible cogent clarity!

  • @billfisher3484
    @billfisher34845 жыл бұрын

    Very well done. I am fluid power certified hydraulic mechanic with 40 yrs. Exp. Best video i have seen. Here in the US we say Open Center and Closed Center. But great job

  • @michaelhenry4405
    @michaelhenry44057 ай бұрын

    Brilliant clear concise video. Thanks

  • @Nycalboy
    @Nycalboy7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Thank you 😊

  • @rafihussain
    @rafihussain4 жыл бұрын

    Great job. Loved it. Greatly appreciated.

  • @volador2828
    @volador28286 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video.... very well made! Easy to understand the basics!

  • @kendallcopp7443
    @kendallcopp74433 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation. Thank you for this!

  • @skater4life31683
    @skater4life316836 жыл бұрын

    Great video demonstration. Thank you!

  • @pedromorales2379
    @pedromorales23794 жыл бұрын

    A very well presented good job and thanks for the great information

  • @Dylan-ks9yi
    @Dylan-ks9yi Жыл бұрын

    Great video, I will definitely recommend this training to others.

  • @MrZeddy100
    @MrZeddy1004 жыл бұрын

    Visual learning is way better than theory training. Great job! Keep the vids coming.

  • @petruandreascondurachi7648
    @petruandreascondurachi76486 жыл бұрын

    Thank you ! Keep it up . appreciate it .

  • @tomvarcoe3100
    @tomvarcoe31004 жыл бұрын

    Good clear and simple explanation. Top marks

  • @JasonTheMunicipalMechanic
    @JasonTheMunicipalMechanic4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the well informed video. Came out great.

  • @rezafarjamirad5879
    @rezafarjamirad58796 жыл бұрын

    I learned in this 10 minutes more than those hours in the class!

  • @sathappanarunachalam8187
    @sathappanarunachalam81873 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation bro. I really appreciate the good explanation.

  • @faridkhan7854
    @faridkhan78546 жыл бұрын

    Have a good explanation. Very thanks

  • @markbroad119
    @markbroad119 Жыл бұрын

    Great job. I feel these would be awesome in cars and trucks

  • @just1life905
    @just1life9056 жыл бұрын

    I like it.. im a member to your channel now..

  • @crazyDIYguy
    @crazyDIYguy2 жыл бұрын

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  • @billthompson9595
    @billthompson95956 жыл бұрын

    excellent demonstration. THANK YOU

  • @sunilwijeratne1620
    @sunilwijeratne16206 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Infomation and clear understanding method. Thanks.

  • @keel23345
    @keel233456 ай бұрын

    Excellent explanation😀

  • @mostafamahmoud6486
    @mostafamahmoud64866 жыл бұрын

    Thanks you very much from Egypt

  • @VanCanhKieu
    @VanCanhKieu4 жыл бұрын

    It's so clear to understand, thank you so much

  • @Bihanshahi
    @Bihanshahi4 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou soo much.very easy and simple way of teaching.I really appreciated.

  • @pseudechis
    @pseudechis5 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video... thank you

  • @WildlingSailing
    @WildlingSailing2 жыл бұрын

    the best video on this topic, we learned so much

  • @gurudeohatwar6317
    @gurudeohatwar63176 жыл бұрын

    It clears the concept of open & closed loop pump

  • @tamilwargod
    @tamilwargod5 жыл бұрын

    thanks bro , it was easy to understand basics of hydraulics. Keep it up

  • @michaelcostello6991
    @michaelcostello69915 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Good clear training

  • @TheUstadim
    @TheUstadim6 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic Bravo simple and straight forward

  • @mbunds
    @mbunds4 жыл бұрын

    Wow, well done; thank you so much!

  • @urielalcantaramendoza2979
    @urielalcantaramendoza29796 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @7aez399
    @7aez3993 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much! your video is very easy to understan and clear.

  • @erneumann3136
    @erneumann31366 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @adriandarke5393
    @adriandarke539311 ай бұрын

    Just watched your Great video, very well done!. I learnt hydraulics 35 years ago, as a mechanical fitter working on presses and factory equipment, just a mention that the swash plate in a axial piston pump changing positions may not just change displacement volume, but also can change its relative position to the inlet and outlet ports on certain pumps!. What amazes me is the service life of some equipment may have been from WW2.😂 All gone now I imagine!

  • @yasinulazamuddan3656
    @yasinulazamuddan36565 жыл бұрын

    very simplified & helpful vdo, plz make more vdos like this. thank u

  • @rockandmeatroll
    @rockandmeatroll4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, thank you!

  • @Angel283
    @Angel2834 жыл бұрын

    Nice class!! My old tractor vs my new zero turn mower, Now I get it :) Thanks!!

  • @actorzone856
    @actorzone8565 жыл бұрын

    closed loop is used in transmissions in just about every construction, forestry and farming machines these days, open loop is for hydraulic cylinders where the oil needs to be returned to a tank as the oil amount varies to and from the hydraulic rams/cylinders.

  • @braddavis4377

    @braddavis4377

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why are they not used in cars: Is there torque multiplication, Can they be used for high speed?

  • @bruhmania7359

    @bruhmania7359

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wait why not use a closed loop since then you just have a pump on every ram instead of one with a complicated valve system?

  • @ryanking4247

    @ryanking4247

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@braddavis4377Automatic cars have a torque converter, comparable to this closed loop with a fixed swash plate angle. Pumping fluid creates drag so its really only good for high torque low speed

  • @Dr_Xyzt

    @Dr_Xyzt

    5 жыл бұрын

    On a car, the open loop system is the better choice for a lot of reasons! The variable speed ability is taken over by the engine, and gives you the ability to use sliding vane or gerotor pumps for simplicity and longevity. An example is a power-steering assembly. These systems pump fluid through an a little hole (called an orifice). At low engine speed, the orifice is too big to be a restriction, and the car is likely parked or has low duty requirements, so drag isn't a problem. You can turn your power steering pump with your hand! Pressure gain has exponential characteristics. Doubling engine speed will quadruple the pressure, and the engine often goes over 10-times the idle speed. Any shock loads against these systems are typically resolved with the tremendous amounts of momentum in the engine. For an Electric motor that rotates at a fixed frequency (60hz, geared down to whatever suits your nominal shaft torque requirements and pump speeds), the closed loop system makes sense, but has its own sacrifices. For example, we might need a sudden burst of speed. The motor often can't cope with this, or becomes a reactive load for the power source. The work-around is to have a huge flywheel on the motor. If you're dealing with shock loading, the flywheel will give you all of the load you could ever want, but the shock loads can trigger your safety valves, causing the system to go backwards.

  • @Dr_Xyzt

    @Dr_Xyzt

    5 жыл бұрын

    Automatic transmissions have open-loop systems that are optimized for the duty at hand. You have control over engine speed and should be mature enough to know what kind of gear shifting duty the transmission would ever need to do. Given that information, an open loop system can be made, such that its mode of failure is known and forced to happen for safety reasons.

  • @richpurslow3283
    @richpurslow32834 жыл бұрын

    excellent video, really helped me understand a few things. One subscription right here.

  • @darkness4382
    @darkness43827 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, thank you.

  • @sureshghimire3037
    @sureshghimire30376 жыл бұрын

    Thank u soooo sooo much!!! You made it clear .. Wow, simply awesome 😊😊

  • @cascadeanalog320
    @cascadeanalog3202 жыл бұрын

    Very informal. Thank you Very Much !

  • @blessingsamuel825
    @blessingsamuel8254 жыл бұрын

    i really love your explanation

  • @mohammedaslam3862
    @mohammedaslam38626 жыл бұрын

    Just awesome...thank you very much Sir.

  • @kellycolliver6718
    @kellycolliver6718 Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @Cobra427Veight
    @Cobra427Veight3 жыл бұрын

    Great video , can you make a video on how to correctly add a oil cooler , return side , with all the components and options like how much oil to put through the cooler , GPM flow etc . Cheers

  • @pedroalmeida5847
    @pedroalmeida5847 Жыл бұрын

    Great explanation !

  • @juansantos3620
    @juansantos36203 жыл бұрын

    Best explanation ever, Thank you.

  • @claudemaximus9409
    @claudemaximus94095 жыл бұрын

    This lad will go far. Thx

  • @ericpham5198
    @ericpham5198 Жыл бұрын

    This is genius design ...thanks

  • @RetiredPilot
    @RetiredPilot4 жыл бұрын

    a discussion about balanced close system and therefore very little heat could be included. Nice presentation.

  • @marcok.1078
    @marcok.1078 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the great explanation! What is the type of the motor on the closed loop system?

  • @mushtaqmirza9390
    @mushtaqmirza93907 жыл бұрын

    very nice info about hydraulic system thank you very much

  • @TheOne-jg7fd
    @TheOne-jg7fd Жыл бұрын

    this is soo cool and makes it simple to understand i had to download it

  • @ontheroadagain4773

    @ontheroadagain4773

    Жыл бұрын

    But this isn't how an open loop system works in practice. Directional control valves are usually proportional. You can control the speed with the lever pretty well. You don't normally need any flow control valve that increases unneccessary pressure, energy consumption, heating and wear on the pump. But in systems with solenoid control (on-off function) valves you need flow control valves if you don't want full flow on part of the circuit.

  • @anand8676
    @anand8676Ай бұрын

    Nice explanation

  • @jimbo-vw3sd
    @jimbo-vw3sd5 жыл бұрын

    well done ,thank you so much for this video and information

  • @eliasmackrodt1867
    @eliasmackrodt18675 жыл бұрын

    very informative and well explained

  • @tafadzwamulawa9347
    @tafadzwamulawa93472 жыл бұрын

    Great simplified lecture

  • @ontheroadagain4773

    @ontheroadagain4773

    2 жыл бұрын

    But here is a flaw concerning the open loop system. Directional control valves are usually proportional. You can control the speed with the lever pretty well. You don't normally need any flow control valve that increases unneccessary pressure, energy consumption, heating and wear on the pump. On every tractor, loader, excavator etc with a fixed displacement pump for the working functions you control the hydraulic cylinders and even motors by the levers on the control valve and rarely any flow control valve is used. Controlling the speed of a cylinder is pretty much like controlling the speed of a motor.

  • @sergioduran8948
    @sergioduran89486 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video ...

  • @callum8596
    @callum85965 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation . Closed loop systems would generally have some kind of top up or boost pump incorperated to keep a contant gpm. also without a top up a possibility of cavitation could occur. If there was some kind of drag/force holding the wheel then pressure would build up thats why a PRV would be installed to divert back to tank. hense the reason for a boost pump to keep the fliud topped up. and hense the reason the tank is still there.

  • @kashmirborewellaijaz6273
    @kashmirborewellaijaz62735 жыл бұрын

    There should be oil cooler in closed hydraulic system.. As the hydraulic oil on heating reduces the efficiency..

  • @Maikel1500
    @Maikel150011 ай бұрын

    Great video, it visualization gave me a better understanding with its explanation of course but als intrigued me. Like how fixed is the motor as it’s closed off and does the restriction valve boost the power too besides restrictions the pump?

  • @brentsmith5647
    @brentsmith56472 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video thank you

  • @elenadelgadoEHS1
    @elenadelgadoEHS15 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video!!!

  • @timothyohliger5888
    @timothyohliger58886 жыл бұрын

    Best explanation so far!!! How do I learn more? where? And thank you for sharing this!

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