Let's pour one out for Leisuresuitrantfiend for introducing a generation to Nostalgia Critic. They were not the hero we needed, but the one we deserved.

@appleWhisky43

2 жыл бұрын

And for the people who remember this legendary channel

@neobogard

Жыл бұрын

Still my favourite for nostalgia critic. Nostalgia Critic wasn't the same after the Leisuresuitrantfiend era anyway.

I do have to defend Cinderella here. Her movie was NOT about getting the prince. Please be reminded that in the beginning, All she wanted was to go to a god damned party. Then she fell in love. Her original intention was to just have a fun night out.

@creativevisiongaming

8 жыл бұрын

+Angie Claire You're right the Prince was the one who was seeking a mate. That was the first time Cinderella was treated with Kindness from another human being besides her father and she really just needed to take advantage of the situation to put her step-mother and step-sisters in place.

@caitdurl9111

8 жыл бұрын

+Angie Claire Hell, more then that- she wanted one simple night of joy in her miserable existence. One where she is frequently abused and overworked. How is that not at least reasonable? And the Prince had showed her genuine kindness for once, and a chance to escape, even just for a night.

I can't believe this channel is still up. This was the home for Nostalgia critic for when he himself had none.

I wonder if all those evil queens started out as the innocent kind princesses...

At least in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, the children immediately become kings and QUEENS instead of princes and princesses

@yvonne.g458

10 жыл бұрын

Very true

@GideonGleeful95

10 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking of that.

@matrix91234

Жыл бұрын

But.. they are brothers and sisters though : I. I thought that was weird since you know what role of King and Queen is?. But i mean i love Narnia books though

I agree that Aurora is bland and forgettable and waits to be saved. But the rest of the disney princesses are independent in their own right(s). Snow White was a "waiting around" type, but she had a positive, never give up attitude despite everything that happened to her. Snow White did cry, but she had a valid reason to: she was traumatized after almost being killed. But afterwards, Snow White was able to pick herself up and looked for the positives in her situation. And yes, Snow White was going to wait for her prince, but in the mean time, she spent time with and didn't take any crap from the dwarfs. Snow White took care of herself and the dwarves without batting an eye or complaining. And I hate how every single time a new princess film comes out, that new princess is praised for being independent and not needing to be saved by a prince. And every single time, Cinderella and Aurora are mentioned as if all of the Disney princesses are like them. Has everyone seriously forgotten Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, Anna, and well pretty much all of the ladies of the Renaissance? I feel that comparing all of the Disney princesses, even Snow White, to Aurora is insulting and unfair.

A very well thought out, well drawn argument. I can't think of any criticism, only augmentations for his already existing theories. Well done : )

I agree, but why do we always forget Mulan! I know she's not technically a princess, but is still marketed as a princess. She saved China, defended her fathers honour, works hard to become a great soldier and saves Li Shang's life. Like how can we forget her arguably as a 'princess' she did the most.

I would argue the princes have even less personality in the older films. They are both bland as heck.

@banananutduckbread1279

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I love the older films, but not for the princesses and princes (which are pretty fuckin' bland), but usually for the villains and the side characters and the animation. In Sleeping Beauty for example, I wasn't really interested in Aurora and Phillip, but I loved the visuals, loved Flora Fauna and Merriweather, and of course, fuckin' Maleficent in all her badass glory!

God, I'd love it if someone made a film where the hero/heroine, who's nice and moral, just fails in the end. The lesson being that sometimes life is unfair, and the bad guys are sometimes victorious, being nice isn't enough to get what you want. It'd be true to life and teach a great lesson.

@zombifiedpariah7392

9 ай бұрын

Oof. Real glue eater take right there.

I think one more reason is that queens are either mothers or grandmothers. And while the grandmother might be wise she is already old and her adventures are over, the queen is in most cases dead - and neither sounds too interesting .... -.-"

Vagita says prince of sayans even though he is technically king

@SupraRage

9 жыл бұрын

I wonder why he never realized this.

@juckoosaurus

9 жыл бұрын

SupraRage to busy trying to outdo kakarooooot

Somewhat appropriate that Disney, the original company that led to the proliferation of the "princess" stereotype, was also the first to give an on-screen upgrade from Princess to Queen in a manner akin to that of real life. Let's be honest here: outside of Frozen, when's the last time you heard the word "coronation" used for a female character in a kids' movie?

How to make a mario game that would surprise everyone: Instead of Bowser kidnapping Peach, make him invade her kingdom. The Princess Peach becomes Queen Peach, and Mario like a general in the army or something.

@577deaththekid

10 жыл бұрын

That'd be a great set-up for a Mario strategy game.

Zelda in Twilight Princess now holds the Title of Queen, she's 20 years old, still young, pretty but took responsibility of a queen(unlike peach or daisy) Elsa from Frozen, again another young pretty queen, Garnet from Final Fantasy became queen at the age 19, so I don't think were 100% anti queen, I think it's about how they're portrayed

@boogaloo903

9 жыл бұрын

foxxy moon I want to see a Zelda game where she starts off as a queen. That'd be cool. Maybe Link with facial hair LOL

@nidohime6233

6 жыл бұрын

Nope, all Zeldas are still princess, even in Twilight Princess she wasn't queen because of the bad guys interrupting the coronation ceremony thing but even when they finally end all the chaos and she can rule finally the game had already end so we never see what happends after.

@themagicalfox6

6 жыл бұрын

Boo Galoo agreed, id too love to see an older rugged Link ;)

This was a good friggin video! Definitely should do more of these

You showed the Jadis, the White Witch in your lineup of evil queens, so I think it's only fair to note that Lucy and Susy were both the true queens of Narnia, while Jadis was just a powerful witch who usurped the original royal Narnian family.

Hey Vanelopie didn't want to be a Princess, she decided to start a precidency! And she did it! So look up the facts next time.

@PeninsulaPaintings

9 жыл бұрын

But she still BECAME a Princess, thus still marketed as one by Disney.

@venusinverted2488

9 жыл бұрын

Nabzarella Dare ya got me there, Disney can be idiots sometimes...

Actually, the Bridge to Terabithia example makes sense in terms of the "queen vs. princess" thing. If her brother is king, then unless I'm mistaken then she'd remain a princess, due to them being siblings rather than spouses (and thank goodness THAT never happened!).

Shout out to the fallen hero Lesuiresuit

When I was younger I never wanted to be a princess. I thought of them being dainty morons. So in 4th grade their was a Renaissance festival, and I dressed as Joan of Arc. All the other girls were princesses and the boys were knights, princes, and kings. But that's society.

@robotpanda77

9 жыл бұрын

Sarah Hollis That's badass but in fairness what else were they going to be? Peasants?

wow that was actually really insightful, i thought he was just going to be like "princesses are great. bye."

At least with Sally and Leia, there's a good reason: Sally knows her father is still alive, and refuses to step up as queen until he dies or willing passes on the crown. Becoming queen would mean (to her and the other rebels) that they'll never see their beloved and very well liked king again. As for Leia, it's because she was, legitimately, the princess until her HOME PLANET (and the nation that went with it) was destroyed. She's a 'princess' because she has no kingdom to rule over.

Of course Walt Disney felt like Cinderella. In one point in time he was poor like really poor like eating dog food to survive poor so he had to work hard for his success.

hooray for the first Disney Queen, Elsa!

@Rgoid

9 жыл бұрын

Actually, Kida from Atlantis the Lost Empire came first. Even if she hasn't been included in the lineup.

@xxTC-96xx

9 жыл бұрын

Rgoid I didn't know she was a queen O.o

@Rgoid

9 жыл бұрын

TheCoolperson1996 She was. After her father, King Kashekim, was killed by Rourke, Kida inherited the throne with Milo as her consort.

@JStryker47

7 жыл бұрын

Then there's also Rapunzel's mom (her real mom, not Gothel).

There's still Queen Amidala who became a Senator. It's pretty obvious why women prefer princess as you said they want to feel and look young. For queen you think of Queen Elizabeth and Princess you think Dianna or Kate. To be fair the main male characters are princes: Prince Eric, Prince Charming, Prince Phillip. Only Simba becomes King at the end but those are animals.

@creativevisiongaming

8 жыл бұрын

+eyevanime Oh yeah and Prince Ali

Well with Disney's Frozen the daughter with dead parents actually becomes Queen so I guess that's a good thing I suppose

In Star Wars' defense, the queen and princess titles seem to be a title to earn rather than inherit.

Bridge to Terabithia is a great movie. It's very touching.

@matrix91234

Жыл бұрын

I cried when that part happend in the movie, which i wont mention due to spoilers

MLP:FiM has the "Why Princess and not a Queen" problem too. Not once, not twice, but now FOUR times over... the only Queen that has appeared thus far has been a villain, same with the King who famously had like ONE line of dialogue (Seriously, the stairs were a more terrifying villain in that episode)

@augustwest5356

8 жыл бұрын

what the fuck is MLP:FiM? you can't go around making up abbreviations for stuff. after just that one I have to assume you are some kind of crazy weirdo

@Chobittsu

8 жыл бұрын

Wow, rude. Well since you're too lazy to use Google, here's the translation: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

@JayJayM57

8 жыл бұрын

the tittle queen was proposed, but rejected by Hasbro , because Disney had created a negative stigma around it.

But people don't realize this most of them are teenagers so yeah they're going to act as damsels in distress

"That'll be the first thing I change." "F**k." HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! XD

Genius. Seriously.

I'll give sleeping beauty this , in that one sort of sequel I like that she's learning how to govern. and she gave me one of the best pieces of advice I've ever heard: don't sign something before you read it.

I love these

Alice from Alice in Wonderland--in almost every version with "Through the Looking-glass" characters--never got the option of being a princess. She was immediately upgraded from little girl status to queen, and by the Red and White Queens no less, not the kings. What Alice is the Queen _of_ is anyone's guess. Anyway, why be princess or queen when you can become an empress? :D

@TheWinnipegredhead

9 жыл бұрын

That's because Lewis Carroll had a thing for young Alice pleasant and bemoaned her growing up into an adult

@thirteenfury

8 жыл бұрын

+Shy Kiagana Wait, where are you getting all this info from? I've never heard that Alice Liddell was schizophrenic, not even in the crazy fan theory versions of her life. I'm not saying it isn't true, just that I've never heard of it before. And in what version did Alice visit Wonderland multiple times in her lifetime? In the original books, Alice visited Wonderland once and Looking-glass Land once. Is this from the live action adaptation by Disney? Or some other adaptation? Although I agree that storybook Alice (not just the real Alice Liddell) was originally a brunette, as you can see in Carroll's own drawings from the manuscript he gave as a present to Alice Liddell. However, I've seen John Tenniel's drawings of Alice colored with blonde hair in editions printed before the Disney cartoon came out. Regardless of all this, my original post was entirely about storybook Alice from the official published version with John Tenniel as illustrator, not about Alice from any later adaptations/non-canon works.

@thirteenfury

8 жыл бұрын

+Shy Kiagana I'll have to look into this more, but from what I've learned over the years is that the alleged drug and mental illness references in Alice in Wonderland are mostly untrue, just ideas that leaked into pop culture during the 60s. Primarily from drug culture interpreting the Caterpillar's mushroom as hallucinogenic mushrooms a lot of people were into back then. Anyway, the silliness mostly comes from Lewis Carroll himself, afaik, and a lot of scenes seem unrelated because he created the book out of various stories he told to the real Alice and her friends during their visits together. Plus he added extra stuff to the story when people encouraged him to publish it for anyone to read. It would be like if your mom decided to turn all the bedtime stories she told you as a kid into a single story and let everybody read it. Most things wouldn't make sense to other people or seem like part of the same story.

Okay defending Leia not being Queen... her whole PLANET was gone, there wasn't anything to be Queen of.

Just pointing something out, a princess/prince can be a ruler. Look at Liechtenstein for example.

@Qsalis

8 жыл бұрын

+KamikazethecatII Yes, but then the state is I think a princedom and not a kingdom, a "king crown" is not around. Look at Poland's history - first known ruler "a prince", his son, "a king" because he was crowned by higher authority.

I agree with almost all his points here. But. BRIDGE TO TERREBITHIA WAS INCREDIBLE!

Sally Acorn did wind up growing out of the title, but also her parents did return so the title was actually legit. And, she wound up in two "what if" comics becoming queen. But this didn't happen till later in the Comics made by Archie.

Most Princesses are marketed towards little girls so it would make sense that the character is young Princess.

0:36- Ummm, I think he missed the ideal of "principality", "Grand Prince", "Imperial Prince", and the idea of regency.

Can someone please tell me the name of the background song? Thank you

@jesusluna-higuera6386

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!!

Eh, fuck the power and responsibility of being king. Like the girls who'd rather be princesses, I'd rather be a prince. Like, the 7th-born son who's probably never going to ascend the throne. Probably wouldn't be as big of an assassination target at least.

@reneelucero2923

7 жыл бұрын

fair point bro, fair point.

I'm probably going to get a lot of hate comments by even mentioning Elsa, but yet another reason to love her! Its only a stereotype, but she does hold the title queen. Even if she was the most awful and blah character Disney Studios has ever produced, she does have that independent personality, AND she holds the title queen, not princess, DOESN'T wait nor wants a prince to save her, yet people still hate on her. So its maybe the fact that Elsa, along with the other characters, are over advertised, or its just the royal stereotype.

Which is weird because she's often in the Disney Princess line of merchandise.

9:24 Laughed both of my ass cheeks off.

I've said this before. Some nostalgic princesses cannot call themselves queens due to certain legal restrictions. Like the lack of proof that the king is dead. Otherwise, the most they can be is princess regent. In Sonic, we were never flatout told that Sally's father is dead and in Captain N we see the King in a video feed. And in Princess Leia's case, ... her kingdom blew up. Who is she going to be queen of? Planet debris?

True, there are principalities. As far as the show goes, the land Celestia rules is never stated to be a kingdom, principality, or anything specific. But most assume it to be kingdom, from what I understand.

What is the backround soundtrack?

i prefer being the weirdo in the corner messing with his medical supplies until they are in alphabetical order.

I also thought, maybe in a more in depth sense. The reason people still refer to should be Queens as princess is because that is what they have always known them as, hence the word being a habit.

I got two words for why Jasmine barely gets any hate. ... ... ... ... ... She's hot.

Actually, Lauren Faust's Deviant Art account (just using this as an example) says that's the reason she was forced to change Queen Celestia to "Princess" because that's what their "market research" showed them. Even she felt part of it stems from the Disney movies and similar portrayals in media.

So, as it typically would occur, the oldest prince would inherit his father's kingdom (this is why sons were so important) and the princesses would be given to princes of other nations for dowry and diplomacy. When the princess married a prince from another nation, she would remain a princess until her husband became king at which time she would become a queen. If a princess remained unmarried, she would never have an opportunity to be a queen.

I always figured that the reason why the little sister from bridge to terrabithia is princess and her brother is king is because the dead girl is technically queen, since she pretty much made Terrabithia.

I could be wrong, but these Princesses are not Queens because they haven't had an official coronation. Although NC's points make perfect sense as well.

Another argument can be made that gentlemen align themselves as knights and princes due to their chivalry and honor but rarely consider themselves a king. Myself included in this assessment.

whats the background song called?

True, but maybe it's her characteristics that makes her classified as a princess. (As Nostalgia Critic points out). Plus, in China, marrying the general, or being a great warrior, was at that time akin to royalty. Plus, it's also marketable (again, I don't think that's the only reason she's included, but it's part of it seeing as how many people love her.)

Technically Princess Leia's entire planet (aka, what she would be queen/princess of) was put out of commission. albeit with an giant laser.

That was a great analysis.

I think he means to say that she was force sensitive, which she was. She was the alternative if Luke failed.

Well, maybe. But don't forget instances like the Chronicles of Narnia. The Penesive siblings are all refered to as King or Queen (King Edmund, King Peter, Queen Susan, and Queen Lucy) even as children and rule together even though they are not married to each other.

I'm not sure it's so much he doesn't consider the possibility himself so much as people who watch media don't really think of Princess Regent, just Princess. I don't think many people are aware of specific titles.

What music is playing? It sounds so pleasant.

. . . but Pluto isn't even a planet anymore.

Lol guys, how could Sleeping Beauty do anything of value in the movie.. She was asleep the whole time! Yes, from the times we do see her being awake and active her character isn't really established and is kind of boring but I don't really think we can expect much from her as the whole point of the story literally is that she was cursed to do nothing and wait for someone to save her. That's the plot of the story.

I can't help but think of Elsa and how she fixes a lot of these point, including the fact that she DOES actually become Queen

nicely put

9:40 Lola Bunny as "Funny" from the Looney Toons Show. He agrees that she went from that stick in Space Jam to a hilarious nut in the Looney Toons Show. No matter how many people hate that show... I LOVE IT! (P.S. GO KIM POSSIBLE!)

I don't think that's the case. I know historically there was always a bit of a prejudice towards the idea of having a queen rule on her own, and of course she needed to produce an heir, so princesses were very often married off early, but I've never heard of a rule saying that the princess cannot become queen until she is married.

I figured that Princess Sally wasn't queen because the land was in dispute with Robotnik trying to take over. But what do I know, I've never seen an episode of that in my entire life (I grew up w/Sonic X).

@Fickji

9 жыл бұрын

Davis Jensen Yup and it was in the comic books as well. At least until they brought the human world into it. Princess Sally couldn't be queen because her father was missing and Robotnik had falsely crowned himself king. She even almost becomes queen until her father shows up. (at least I think it was her father but could have been a robot in disguise)

I am totally on board with reviewing Bridge To Terrabithia!

I guess a princess is a princess until she marries a king or has children. I can't imagine a woman that has a child wanting to label herself "princess".

Check out the Nostalgia Chick's video on Disney Princesses, she explains that.

Azula almost became queen like she WANTED. So yeah she is the best princess

so sentimental

She's not a princess. She was born from a soldier.

A princess and prince have traditionally not automatically been promoted to kings and queens should the feudal lieges pass away. Typically, there will be a retainer or steward that will run the kingdom until the prince is ready to inherit the responsibility. Princesses do not become queens until they are married to a king. Princesses have traditionally been used as a sort of political currency to ensure there are strong family bonds between kingdoms.

thats why my favourite is Alice in wonderland...cats...and lsd.

people get upset when they take the title princess but they aren't old enough to be queen. Elsa only became queen when she was 21, all the other Disney princesses are under that age

anyone else go all supper happy crazy when Kim Possible showed up on screen?

*Highfive of victory*

i never wanted to be a princess

Fell asleep *^

Who wants to bet if he made this video today he would put Cersei in that anti queen lineup. He already mentioned Arya so it would just make sense for her to be there seeing as how she's now the official queen of Westeros (at the moment) p.s. Go Dany

Well, Kida from Atlantis the Lost Empire became Queen.

That's pretty cool.

I agree. And the same can be said of boys and the prince/king dynamic. Some kings are good yes, but sometimes the king is evil and the Prince is good. The same is true of women as you said. I think media thrives on taking advantage of black and white simplistic "morality" because they feel kids respond to it better. (Though, sometimes, but rarely, children are preceptive enough to catch it)

Not to brunette, her hair turns pink or purple. But after heavy looking I found out that they did make an exclusive doll of her in her wedding gown with short brunette hair, alternatively they still have a blonde Rapunzel in a wedding and/or princess gear. And still they aren't allowed to be brats and horrible people at the start of a movie.

She's a princess alright. The Princess of the Kick Ass Take Names Kingdom.

can't we all get along and hate one group/thing/role collectively.

insightful

This is why Azula is the best Princess.

While Arya is not a princess but she is considered one but yet she does things, she fights, kills and doesn't just wait for a prince and neither does Sansa she just has to do that so joffrey and Cersi won't kill her!

Yeah, I think the only thing to consider is making more positive Queens. Not a ton of positive Queen figures out there. But otherwise I'd say the hate is overblown. There are plenty of positive princess figures and they aren't severely limiting. Everyone has different ideals especially as kids. As many boys who want to be King, many want to be the Knight who frankly while saving the day doesn't have a lot of power and authority (King rules after all). Think people get too heated about things.

BRILLIANT video!!! Now if only someone would make stories about the Disney Princesses' time as *queens* (Elsa is a good starting point, since she's one in her movie;)...

Yeah, people like the Critic who never consider the possibility of the title Princess Regent.

As defence of princeses with no king and queen left, it could be that they can't be crowned. This works for princes Lea, but peatch(?) is with no exuse. My god my spelling is bad, sorry: dyslectic and dutch.