Doce Grande!!!

lol, imagine NC, Duke, and Gonzaga going to the Big 12. Even just one of those teams and the Big 12 would probably be considered a G-League. Just imagine, Houston, Kansas, Baylor, Arizona, Duke, NC, and Gonzaga…for starters. I cannot imagine the NCAA allowing that even if they all wanted to come to the Big 12 right away.

@tarheel7406

12 күн бұрын

I realize you're dreaming, but BAYLOR isn't an actual basketball brand.

Of course they’ve looked into the Big 12 option, but let’s not kid ourselves. That’s for benchmarking other options-not as a serious plan.

College football is wrecking college sports just so big conferences can get an nfl style league with playoffs. It will ruin basketball and all the less attended sports, forcing ridiculous travel schedules. Its putting 5lbs of crap into a 1 lb box.

The B1G presidents have a rule governing expansion deals--they must be additive. UNC doesn't have the football eyeballs to clear that hurdle. FSU has been on the B1G's target list for more than two years. They will be the #19 B1G school. If I had to guess, I would say Miami will be their Plus 1. That leaves Notre Dame as the last school on the B1G's target list. Pete Thamel has reported that UNC is at the top of the SEC's target list.

@tarheel7406

13 күн бұрын

a) Again, you always fail to think inside the future P2 world. b) The B1G has wanted UNC for a decade+. c) Worry not, as UNC will reject the B1G again in favor of the SEC.

@becks89

12 күн бұрын

North Carolina might be the only school that Big 10 would invite with a full share or risk losing them to SEC.

@wally8787

12 күн бұрын

@@becks89 (1) UNC doesn't come close to passing the "additive" test. (2) NC State is an albatross around UNC's neck. (3) BB plays no role in the B1G's mega-conference ambitions.

@becks89

12 күн бұрын

@@wally8787 I agree from a "football" perspective they are not additive, but they will absolutely be added as a full member. Both SEC and Big 10 want UNC in their conference because of their brand, footprint, academic stature etc. UNC is 1 of 1 that this regard. Both ESPN and FOX want UNC so the SEC, Big 10 and Big 12 will throw everything at them to join. NC State may get left behind.

@tarheel7406

12 күн бұрын

@@wally8787 Again, fear not. As things stand, UNC will again reject the B1G.

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UNC would be invited to SEC or B1G. Their problem is state politics, a certain Wake homer State Senator, a BOG of NCState boosters, and a certain Wolfpack Backpack

Big 12 homerism at it's finest.

@SportHawk717

12 күн бұрын

? Isn't this a B12 Channel ?!?

@scottyclayton2501

6 күн бұрын

Quite literally Locked on Big 12. Wouldn’t expect anything else

The Big 12's academics are not prestigious enough for a UNC.

@lundmt01

13 күн бұрын

But the SEC is? Haha

@eray27282

13 күн бұрын

C Wall school

@adamb6370

13 күн бұрын

@@lundmt01actually yes. Go check out the rankings these day SEC has almost as many as BIG. SEC has 5 schools in the top 20 public universities.

@adam6072

13 күн бұрын

@@lundmt01 The SEC has enough money to outweigh academics. Besides, UF, Vandy, and UT Austin are southern Ivy Leagues. I just don't think UNC makes a lateral move from the ACC to the Big 12 when the ACC is so strong academically.

@frontRunn3r587

13 күн бұрын

​​@@adam6072 sounds like you suffer from convenient virtue

Let's see, the ACC just added Cal, Stanford and SMU...who's delusional regarding conference strength???

@tarheel7406

12 күн бұрын

CINCY, HOUSTON & UCF?

@SportHawk717

12 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 All equal too or better than North Carolina in football or basketball. Stop holding FSU hostage in the crappy ACC!!!!!

@Joe-sm9qj

11 күн бұрын

@@SportHawk717 excellent point.

@tarheel7406

9 күн бұрын

@@SportHawk717 Trash talk, ignorance and/or arrogance from a typical unimpressive FSU fan? Not recognizing peers and betters is one of the things that may land FSU in the new BIG12, in which it can play CINCY, HOUSTON & UCF.

To where is CLEMSON going if UNC stays? The BIG12 is the worst (by far) P4 in athletics, academics, prestige and actual media value. If UNC stays for whatever reason, only FSU likely leaves. UNC is not going to give up its position of power/influence even in a lightly depleted then Tier 2 ACC to downgrade across the board in the new BIG12. The State of NC isn't going to force anything if that means such a downgrade and the end of the ACC as a conference of some relevance.

@SportHawk717

12 күн бұрын

Clemson and FSU have carried UNC for too long. My noles need out. UNC is so mid they aren't pulling their weight in basketball anymore either. Pathetic.

@tarheel7406

12 күн бұрын

@@SportHawk717 a) FSU agreed to be an ACC football tentpole. b) Though the ACC's history, CLEMSON has likely been carried more than carried. UNC just made the Sweet 16, was in the title game 3 years ago, and remains the biggest overall brand in the ACC. FSU is pathetic by comparison. I suspect FSU's failure to respect peers and scorched earth tactics was a factor in the CFP snub. There's a reason why UNC can have a more considered strategy for realignment while FSU reveals some desperation.

@SportHawk717

12 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 The crappy ACC kept us out of the playoff and preventing us from winning you guys yet another national championship!!! Unforgivable. Title game 3 years ago in basketball and you lost to a Big 12 team. Thanks a lot. You guys aren't getting it done in basketball. Stop holding FSU and Clemson hostage in the crappy ACC!!!!!

@Joe-sm9qj

11 күн бұрын

What's with all the nonsense trash talk?

@tarheel7406

9 күн бұрын

@@SportHawk717 'The crappy ACC kept us out of the playoff and preventing us from winning you guys yet another national championship!!! " Just moronic. FSU was CFP snubbed because of SEC bias, the need to get an SEC team in, and how FSU is apparently less respected. There's nothing the ACC could have done to hep get FSU in the CFP given those forces. ''Title game 3 years ago in basketball and you lost to a Big 12 team." KANSAS is another blue in the sport. When was the last time FSU made the title game in either revenue sport? The year before the 4-team playoff, ~10 years ago. UNC has made the Final Four 3x over that timeframe and won at least 1 natty. There are agreed upon procedures for FSU/CLEMSON to leave the ACC. There are no hostages.

Too many loser ACC fans in this comment section. My noles gotta get out. FSU and Clemson have been carrying that conference for way too long.

@tarheel7406

12 күн бұрын

Maybe. Lots of ignorant comments as well: a) FSU agreed to be an ACC football tentpole. b) Though the ACC's history, CLEMSON has likely been carried more than carried.

@becks89

12 күн бұрын

I largely agree that Florida State and Clemson have been the dominant schools in the ACC but same can be said for Ohio State and Michigan in Big 10; Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, LSU, Florida in SEC. Though not an historical football success, UNC is a heavyweight in eyes of media companies.

@SportHawk717

12 күн бұрын

@@tarheel7406 North Carolina has to get good at SOMETHING and good quick! They are too mediocre way too long. Not sure their basketball brand is that good anymore anyway. At least Clemson turns the dial in football . North Carolina doesn't. Lacrosse isn't going to cut it. FSU needs out!

@jansonroberts2616

9 күн бұрын

@@SportHawk717 cut the check by Monday and you’re out by August 15.

@tarheel7406

9 күн бұрын

@@SportHawk717 "North Carolina has to get good at SOMETHING and good quick! " UNC is a rare blue in men's basketball and overall sports. It would appear that FSU is a disrespected lite blue in football. UNC is a huge overall band with high and diversified value. FSU is not. There are reasons why UNC is the/a top expansion target of both the SEC and B1G while FSU is not. Yes, since the ACC couldn't close the revenue gap with a new media deal, all ACC schools with SEC/B1G options need to move. FSU is desperate. UNC is far more secure.