Nonduality: Challenging the "I Am the Body" Idea

This video challenges the #1 problem I, as a spiritual unteacher, and all nondual teachers face, day in and day out. Of course it's the "I Am the Body" idea. Listen up closely here! I haven't heard it, but I sure felt it as it came out, and this video is clear as a bell!
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  • @rezamoradi4073
    @rezamoradi4073 Жыл бұрын

    As soon the clock appears it is the lock that we get condittioned to follow, therefore thought is time. Thank you for your humanitarian work sir!

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    Жыл бұрын

    Well said! Time is an experience of the character. In other words, it's an imaginary experience as seen by an imaginary character.

  • @youarewhatyourelookingfor4496

    @youarewhatyourelookingfor4496

    8 ай бұрын

    Douglas Harding had an exercise to do regarding this. He said “If your wearing a watch or can see a click on the wall, point at it and say: “Time, is out there.” Then he said: “Now point to your face and say: “No time here.”

  • @mMark65
    @mMark65 Жыл бұрын

    This was amazingly helpful, Fred!

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Mark!

  • @capfail4524
    @capfail45245 жыл бұрын

    Nisargadatta said that one of the hardest parts about realising the true nature, is for the ego to try to Believe in something Sincerely. You say at 18:17 with such assurance that I'm not my body, and my experience with psychedelics and the subsequent short time ego loss, combined with your words, corroborate with each other at some level. But man, it's so fricking hard to stop identifying with the body. Ego thinks that you and other nondual teachers are liars, or in delusion, because how can I not be my body, or at least not be heavily dependent on it? I'm only 22 years old, and my desire to stop worrying, stop being fearful and resistant to life, to become Enlightened one, is really high, one day awakening will occur, maybe not in this life but inevitably so, and for the moment I'm almost content with my level of clarity, so thank you, Fred-Not Fred, for your words, they do resonate with this one at the other side of the screen, pretty deeply.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you're reading Nisargadatta and listening to my videos I'd say your odds of awakening are quite good. Don't count on your 'next life' to conduct business you can attend to here and now. Ego/story is never going to understand this, and ego/story is never going to wake up. What if you didn't believe the thoughts that are arising for even just one minute. What if you questioned them instead? What are you without ego/story. What survives the loss of ego/story. Who/what are You - really, really?

  • @XRPcop

    @XRPcop

    Жыл бұрын

    Checking back in with you 3 years later. Your body is 25, how old is your mind now?

  • @karen6778
    @karen67788 ай бұрын

    Thank you 🙏 ❤

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    7 ай бұрын

    You are SO very welcome!❤️

  • @edward2175
    @edward21755 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the back to basics talk Fred. Clear as a bell. Its like taking to the guy next door over the fence, no mantel of holiness, not quoting masters and gurus endlessly. Direct and personal.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @susanadams8896

    @susanadams8896

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed Arthur. Fred gives/teaches in a manner perfect for receiving, if there is presence.

  • @jugglyhead
    @jugglyhead5 жыл бұрын

    This is great. Bingo re: the zillion levels of clarity - that's true over here, and the clarity's always fluctuating. It's such a basic truth that 'you are not the body'; although as you've said in another video, that could also be amended to 'you are not limited to the body'. It's really hard for people to grasp that, but once you get it; it rocks your world - but what world? :) Thanks Fredness!

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @tomidavidson3902
    @tomidavidson39025 жыл бұрын

    Excellent Fred. Thank you 😊

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome, Tomi!

  • @joseaguilarbataller3637
    @joseaguilarbataller36373 жыл бұрын

    Loved this one. Thanks❣🙏

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙏

  • @phoenixrising1675
    @phoenixrising16755 жыл бұрын

    Fred that was such a good explanation of how the separate self is born... I am seeing it in my Grandson just recently, he just turned 2... He never said "mine" before a couple of days ago. I remember crying... he's just been such a little being of not knowing and now he know's he's a "me." I guess we all have to go through it! Love your great clarity and sense of humor Fred!

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Phoenix! Yeah, you have to condition them to thrive as humans, and then if they are so drawn, they can turn to you or for proper unconditioning. Love to you both!

  • @celebratinglife6075
    @celebratinglife60755 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Fred ⚘

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're so very welcome! For some reason KZread did not see fit to show this comment until May! ??? :-)

  • @celebratinglife6075

    @celebratinglife6075

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FredDavisNonduality 😊 no problem !

  • @jameswaterhouse-brown6646
    @jameswaterhouse-brown66462 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much again!!! I needed that…again. Well I think even the unit needed that because it was feeling shitty. Or something like that.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    2 жыл бұрын

    Keep coming to satsang, James. :-) ♥

  • @mrnibelheim
    @mrnibelheim5 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha! You hit the nail on the head with "this unit is incorrigible, and has been a big disappointment." For me that lends much credibility to your argument - which I will listen to again, with much pleasure, after my lifetime of futile effort at reforming this recalcitrant unit. Thank you very much, Fred.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're totally welcome!

  • @SinVVV
    @SinVVV5 жыл бұрын

    Such a good video. Fred is so helpful and an absolute snack to boot. Oneness did great too!

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @robbin4720
    @robbin47205 жыл бұрын

    True hi-fidelity.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Robbin! That's a real compliment coming from the clarity over there. :-)

  • @rc1446
    @rc14465 жыл бұрын

    Hi Fred, I love your videos because they are simple and brilliant! When I try the Neti-Neti method and challenge the "I am the body" idea, I feel a strange pressure in my head. The more I think about how I am not the body and not the mind and that I am just experiencing those, the pressure in my head intensifies and my whole body begins to feel chills and the feeling one gets when going down quickly in a roller coaster. Is that a sign of me getting close to awakening? If not, what is it? And, can it be dangerous for me to even do Neti-Neti?

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Who is the "I" that's trying neti-neti? Are you sure you have a head? If you aren't the body, then what's left? Forget the pressure thing; it's unrelated.

  • @wesleymorton7878
    @wesleymorton78784 жыл бұрын

    I notice the body does what it does...crying in the street, it collapses onto its knees; smiling arises (with laughter at times these past days) spontaneously; the mind hits a second later and has stories to tell; before it can stick, something beyond mind (that is nothing at all) reorients awareness back to the direct quiet experience of the smile/laughter and it continues to bloom; it is as though a comforting response to mind saying, "shhh darling, it's ok...didn't you notice the smile on his face, the walking legs, the air moving past? He (this sweet body) seems to really be living a sweet dream, let's tune in"; there is seeing which is no seeing; leaves no trace; no time sense; how bizarre

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    The sweet dream is Yours. You are dreaming that You're a Wesley.

  • @praveenjha1298
    @praveenjha129810 ай бұрын

    This has been a very clarifying video. Thank you. A few questions popped up. Before this "me" idea is developed into the child, you said there is only "experiencing", not anything experiencing nor anything being experienced. But everyone else can clearly see that there is child's body and he is looking around and perceiving things. His brain may not be developed enough yet but he is a body, even if the child doesn't grasp it yet. So the child doesn't identify but that doesn't mean that child is not the body, isn't that true? When his brain becomes capable, won't the child develop "me" even without anyone telling him anything? Second, if the infant, before the "me" idea develops, gets hurt in some way, doesn't the child feel pain or wishes for the ability to do something about it? Meaning that isn't a sense of me already there to feel pain? Third, is it possible to raise a child without inserting the idea of "me"? Because if even memory is not possible without "me", then is it possible to even survive and function in this world? Fourth, when this sense of being emerges in the child, is it in the form of a thought? If so, is it mentalized in a language? Is there any thought at all prior to "me"? And finally, you said, everything comes and goes but ME. But people are dying everyday and there is no trace of them left. There doesn't seem to be an evidence of this higher ME that survives. Everything seems to die with the body. Then how am I not the body? Even if I am not the body, how does it follow what I am? Or that I am space or awakeness?

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi, Praveen. You might notice that this is NOT a quick KZread-type question. It's about 40 questions that go nowhere. lol Bear with me, I'm laughing at ego, not you. Promise. When I say, "Quit trying to figure this out," I'm talking about exactly the short of thing you have just written. I understand why. I did this sort of thing myself. And it is a waste of your time and effort. The reason you can't wake up is not because it is so difficult, it's because it's so simple! It's not hidden; it's right in front of you. And behind you. Everywhere and nowhere. Do yourself a favor and read a couple of my books. The Book of Undoing or Awaken Now are good starters and Beyond Recovery is a GREAT starter if you can release any bias you have about a book that also discusses recovery's 12 Steps. Come to Satsang prepared, or empty. Either is fine. Listen closely. You're moving in the wrong direction and I can help you with that if you let me.

  • @vernonhawkins8357
    @vernonhawkins83573 жыл бұрын

    Awakeness😉

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙏

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is nothing else, even when it looks like there might be :)

  • @modernmountainmonk9666
    @modernmountainmonk96665 жыл бұрын

    Fred, do you think it is our hardware or software as humans to believe we are the body? Nature or nurture?

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    What is the hardware or software of God? It's written in; that's about all we can say.

  • @N8teyrve
    @N8teyrve5 жыл бұрын

    If I fall asleep in your home and then wake up the next day and ask you: “where were you (as in that physical body) when I was in deep sleep?” What would you answer? Would you suggest that the universe doesn’t exist if I am unconscious? Or does it keep going and I’m merely unconscious? -thanks

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is pretty good, but there is no Nath. Consciousness is experiencing itself objectively through that unit. It's not unreasonable to say It's 'playing with Itself', it just isn't quite true. Any application of there being a given 'reasoning' behind this, is an empty human addition to What Is.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    See my response to the comment that commented on your query, Nath.

  • @Primeaux182
    @Primeaux1824 жыл бұрын

    Was it intentional that you named the kid "Bobby" and you talk about the body. Almost sounds like the same :D Thank you, Fred, for the challenge and the elaboration. This topic of not being the body is something I seem to get at some level but there is quite a lot resistance to it.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who's resistance is it - REALLY?

  • @Primeaux182

    @Primeaux182

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FredDavisNonduality I don't really know. My best shot would be "the resistance of the body/ego". To not lose its meaning. I really find it hard to accept this notion that I am not my body. Also asking myself the question whose resistance is it really doesn't seem to work.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who is it that finds it hard to accept that it is not the body? That's the only question that counts.

  • @RealMe-ju9hh
    @RealMe-ju9hh5 жыл бұрын

    I find it difficult to “hold on” to the sense of being when I’m “trying” to wake up. It feels like I’m getting close but in the end nothing happens.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awakening can only happen when the ego is not helping. Don't be fooled by "close". I've had sessions with people who have been "right on the cusp of awakening" for 40 and 50 years. No kidding.

  • @paulanderson346
    @paulanderson3465 жыл бұрын

    Fred , would you say that non - duality is a state of life ?

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    There is only That, which when expressing Itself as relativity, includes, but is not limited to all life.

  • @paulanderson346

    @paulanderson346

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fred Davis ... so are we saying it exhibits the qualities of existence & non existence ?

  • @paulanderson346

    @paulanderson346

    5 жыл бұрын

    Felt a really strong connection with ‘ taking total responsibility ‘ for my own life & grasping non - duality .

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    What qualities would you say that non-existence has? Let's make a list together, I'll go first. #1 - None Your turn. What's number 2?

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Paul, you're problem is that you don't know who you are. What you are not, which is Paulness, cannot possible discover what isn't, because what isn't ISN'T. (Your questions are fatally flawed, is what I'm telling you.) Quit trying to understand That which cannot be understood. You grok it, or you don't, and presently you don't. P.S. Awakening only happens when Paul is not trying to help.

  • @revoksfn7354
    @revoksfn73545 жыл бұрын

    I dont think ill ever get it cos i cant stop my thinking mind trying to figure it out and i know ....there lies the problem...too conditioned to believe

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Who is that "I" that doesn't think it will ever get it? Are you certain it's a Sergio? Are you really, really certain? What if the thing that thinks it'll never get was Conscious Awakeness Itself? [Notice that Awakeness is a VERB and not a noun.] What if there was no Sergio to get it, and getting it was seeing that there was no Sergio? If that were the case, who would I, Conscious Awakeness, be writing to right now?

  • @susanadams8896

    @susanadams8896

    Жыл бұрын

    Been there.

  • @mrsmith7741
    @mrsmith77415 жыл бұрын

    Clearly their all wrong and they should be able to see that I am the center of the universe. HAAAHhahahahahaha. Oh God your so funny. I love it. Thanks Fred.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    ;-)

  • @blakelarson4261
    @blakelarson42613 жыл бұрын

    Only one body experienced at a time by awareness right?

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is just the one consciousness that can perceive only itself through infinite forms. :)

  • @blakelarson4261

    @blakelarson4261

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FredDavisNonduality This is true but it seems to me that consciousness can only "use" one body at a time to perceive itself. So consciousness has to live every life at some point or another. This can only be done one at a time it seems to me. Maybe I'm in total delusion.

  • @jjwolfeday
    @jjwolfeday5 жыл бұрын

    😀

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey, JJ!

  • @jjwolfeday

    @jjwolfeday

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hiya Fred! Thanks again.💎

  • @barbarahemming3841
    @barbarahemming38415 жыл бұрын

    There are senses....toe stubbing hurts! 😁

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Barbara!

  • @barbarahemming3841

    @barbarahemming3841

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@FredDavisNonduality ❤ blessings

  • @kevinpersia5201
    @kevinpersia52014 жыл бұрын

    but we depend on objects and this body form to experience consiousness otherwise we would die and then there would be no experience.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who is this "we" you speak of? I know nothing about a "we" and nothing about "death." I understand on a practical level what you're trying to say, but such statements won't be made clear until we have learned who it is that's making them.

  • @zerbel
    @zerbel5 жыл бұрын

    "I am not the Mona Lisa with a Mustache." How does that not get denied (if Awakeness doens't take that as Its awakening experinece right then)? What if I "knows" that it's not that (MLwM), as the special that (or special not-special that that can't "get it" or "keep it"). What if instead of stating, or chanting, or having repeat like an ACIM lesson ("I'm not the body" - or MLwM)), what if we suggest to just pretend at it? OK, I "knows" that game now, so what if it's suggested that we're running around like Mona Lisas with Mustaches? "Oh!, what if this whole being a character centered on a body sharade is as absurd as calling a Mona Lisa with a Mustache the Mona Lisa?" Shazam (no buts)! Or: "But, there IS a real Mona Lisa". Then what? Mabye just point a finger and see if Awakeness still plays unconscious and takes that as an order to get out. Or if Awakeness stops playing separate cat and mouse and takes the bait: "Oh, there's just pointING, nothing to point AT by Nothing!" Then, just thanks for the game. Thanks!

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @Pnep6210
    @Pnep62105 жыл бұрын

    Am I the one moving the body

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    No one is moving the body. It's part of the the totality.

  • @Pnep6210

    @Pnep6210

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@FredDavisNonduality ok thank you sir

  • @chromakey84

    @chromakey84

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ask until YOU discover the answer. Dont rely on trusting others

  • @jmerrick2012
    @jmerrick20123 жыл бұрын

    "One day, I made the terrible decision to check out the spirituality section of a bookstore..." Funny how so many of "our" stories start out that way! Sort of a running joke of Oneness!

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    3 жыл бұрын

  • @susanadams8896

    @susanadams8896

    Жыл бұрын

    That is how this unit started, Barns and Nobles:-)

  • @Anders01
    @Anders015 жыл бұрын

    While listening to this video I came to the realization that the body is a part of the ego! And the ego is necessary as a development tool for us to develop as unique individual persons. But it comes a time when the ego has served its purpose and needs to be transcended, not only mentally! I believe that the glorified body in Christianity is the transcendent ego on a physical level. This is similar to Satya Yuga in Hinduism and the new earth in the Bible and actually in all major religions. So mental enlightenment, then, is only a partial kind of enlightenment where only the person's mind is enlightened and not his or her body. Similarly collectively, the whole world at the moment is still in an "ego" state which at some point will be transcended into a new earth which is the same earth as now I believe but with the ego transcended both mentally and physically.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sadly, your theory is incorrect. There is no such thing as mental enlightenment, and there is no such thing as physical enlightenment. There is not anything OTHER THAN Enlightment. Awakening is not an achievement. No one "gets" it. You are correct, however, insofar as ego is necessary to keep the biology alive. However, there is no "us" for it to be a tool for, and there are no unique individual persons. This is an attempt by mind to "understand" nondual truth. Won't happen, can't happen - ever. Stay tuned, and leave your theories by the side of the road. You cannot grab hold of something new until you let go of what you think you already have. Good luck.

  • @Anders01

    @Anders01

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@FredDavisNonduality Okay, but I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of a higher level of physical reality about to emerge. Our whole world is still in an ego state, including physical reality, including my physical body (which is one with reality not separate from it, I AM the body including all of earth etc). This is reflected in all major religions: Christianity "See, I will create new heavens and a new earth." - Isaiah 65 "Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea." - Revelation 21:1 Judaism " HaOlam HaBa, or "the world to come", is an important part of Jewish eschatology " "The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot[9] (commandments) He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)" Islam "Allah creates new heavens and a new earth. Upon their completion, the third trumpet will be blown. It is “the trumpet of resurrection.”" Hinduism "In Hindu eschatology the current age is the Kali Yuga, a period of decline. Kalki ('Destroyer of Filth') will appear to purge all evil, beginning a golden age of Satya Yuga." "Kalki ... is described in the Puranas as the avatar who rejuvenates existence by ending the darkest and destructive period to remove adharma and ushering in the Satya Yuga, while riding a white horse with a fiery sword." Buddhism "Maitreya's coming is characterized by the decreasing of the oceans in size, allowing Maitreya to traverse them freely. The event will also allow the unveiling of the true dharma (Law, Teaching) to the people, in turn allowing the construction of a new world."

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Anders, no hard feeling at all, but I can see we'll get nowhere, so I'll not be responding further. But I'm afraid I have to disappoint you: there is no physical reality (although there is a grand experience of one!) and you don't have a body at all. Such is the way of the Unborn, Unbound and Untouched. Nonduality is not the field for you to follow - it'll just frustrate the hell out of you, and the life-ing experience is short enough as it is.

  • @Anders01

    @Anders01

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@FredDavisNonduality Sure, reality is information being observed in the now moment. BUT, that information is a part of the Self, not separate from it. I am my body, and I am also YOUR body! You can see that, right?

  • @informationwarfare8744

    @informationwarfare8744

    5 жыл бұрын

    You seem to be interested in a range of spiritual traditions. Perhaps the following teaching from Advaita Vedanta will assist you to conclude that, just as Fred has described, you are not the body. (Start at the 10 minute mark). kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYGbsNaGeK21f7Q.html

  • @monkeyvizion
    @monkeyvizion5 жыл бұрын

    Capacity for all that is perceived.

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @revoksfn7354
    @revoksfn73545 жыл бұрын

    Enlightened meat ...i LOL

  • @FredDavisNonduality

    @FredDavisNonduality

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I love that!