Noam Chomsky - The Israel/Palestine Conflict II

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  • @snuffying
    @snuffying7 ай бұрын

    20 years later, this comes back up. chomsky had words of wisdom... all he said is true.

  • @MalAnders94

    @MalAnders94

    7 ай бұрын

    Same goes for Ukraine. Kind of frustrating.

  • @missinginaction2856

    @missinginaction2856

    7 ай бұрын

    3 kings!!!!! The three ideas….the three options……!!!!! And I saw the second beast rise from the sea 🌊??????? Didn’t the United States send the biggest aircraft carrier to the region ??? To aid the first beast which was wounded?????????

  • @missinginaction2856

    @missinginaction2856

    7 ай бұрын

    Damm Chomsky’s must be saying Well fuck it !!!!!!!😂😂😂😂

  • @JK12518

    @JK12518

    7 ай бұрын

    Bad thing is y'all elected and kept for 17 years a terrorist group that committed one of the worst attacks against randoms, g'ed out and set y'all up for total failure. It is amazing how dumb the general populace is. Please act and vote in your interest and your children's future interest. Failures as parents. But thank you future generations will learn from your stupidity.

  • @JK12518

    @JK12518

    7 ай бұрын

    Dude need to apologize for this idiocy.

  • @humanraceisonefamily.7944
    @humanraceisonefamily.79447 ай бұрын

    For every action there is a reaction and for every occupation there's a resistance - living by the gun on occupied land that belongs by right to someone else will forever be a very risky business!

  • @rt-uh6mt

    @rt-uh6mt

    6 ай бұрын

    Gaza is not occupied. The West Bank is "occupied" but it wouldn't be if Jordan hadn't declared war on Israel, and then after losing the war launched hundreds of suicide bombing attacks from the West Bank. Israel is heavy handed in their security, and yeah, they cross the line sometimes. You would too if you lived next to people that wish to commit barbaric atrocities against you. It wasn't Israel that decided to go to war in 1967. Nor was it there decision in 1948 to go to war. The Arab states literally tried to commit genocide against Israel in those wars. Thankfully they lost, and lost miserably. The "Palestinians" were offered their own country but they declined because they were unwilling to share the land. That kind of makes them bigots. Don't it? Anyway, that was a big mistake, under international law, Israel has no obligation to give them any land at all. But in fact, they have offered them land.

  • @christopherdonaghue2461
    @christopherdonaghue24618 жыл бұрын

    I like this video. You usually either have to take Chomsky's word (which I do, admittedly, hold in high regard) or go searching for the sources yourself, but this shows visually that of which he speaks.

  • @hamsahamdan484

    @hamsahamdan484

    3 жыл бұрын

    5 years on Israel killing innocent babies and blowing them up into smithereens.

  • @hamsahamdan484

    @hamsahamdan484

    3 жыл бұрын

    When will the world wake up

  • @randallmadison9910

    @randallmadison9910

    2 жыл бұрын

    His works are heavily footnoted.

  • @christopherdonaghue2461

    @christopherdonaghue2461

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@randallmadison9910 not the couple I'd read back then, which were probably just speeches transcribed and published. I don't hold his linguistics work in anything but contempt, but I still haven't found much in his political work that's concerning.

  • @justworship0570
    @justworship05707 ай бұрын

    Free Palestine

  • @JK12518

    @JK12518

    7 ай бұрын

    It is getting freed now.

  • @ayebee652
    @ayebee6528 жыл бұрын

    I wonder whose going to be Chomsky's successor?

  • @LoveAllAnimals101

    @LoveAllAnimals101

    8 жыл бұрын

    Norman Finkelstein.

  • @ayebee652

    @ayebee652

    8 жыл бұрын

    Rayed Darwish On the Israel/Palestine issue, i would agree that seems like his inevitable successor. But I mean on a more holistic interpretation of politics/culture etc.

  • @LoveAllAnimals101

    @LoveAllAnimals101

    8 жыл бұрын

    Aye Bee Zeus

  • @pigzy9807

    @pigzy9807

    8 жыл бұрын

    Cenk Uygur (minus the amazing accomplishments in linguistics and computer science)

  • @ayebee652

    @ayebee652

    8 жыл бұрын

    Eve Pigzy Cenk? I should hope not. The man is inarticulate.

  • @abooswalehmosafeer173
    @abooswalehmosafeer1737 ай бұрын

    One Day,Justice will prevail.

  • @Semapho0ore

    @Semapho0ore

    7 ай бұрын

    When?

  • @josefwurzel5072

    @josefwurzel5072

    7 ай бұрын

    You think so? There are enough examples of the other way: Native Americans, Aborigines, Armenians etc. They lost their land. And the perpetrators live or lived their lives unharmed.

  • @abooswalehmosafeer173

    @abooswalehmosafeer173

    7 ай бұрын

    @@josefwurzel5072 Perhaps I take solace in deluding myself in a world that is delusional...

  • @rt-uh6mt

    @rt-uh6mt

    6 ай бұрын

    @@josefwurzel5072 The fact is there were Jewish people living in Israel, even before Zionism. They were a minority but they were there. How is it not there land too? The people now known as Palestinians were offered their own country, one bigger than what the Israelis were offered. But they refused and instead went to war with Israelis, in an attempt to annihilate them. How is it now that the people that started a war to commit genocide against Israelis and take their land are the victims? They were intolerant bigots.

  • @dodleymortune4312

    @dodleymortune4312

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@josefwurzel5072 In 2000 years if all these obtain "justice" people will call injustice.

  • @seanwhitehall4652
    @seanwhitehall46527 ай бұрын

    Thank you Algorithm

  • @Navillus.55
    @Navillus.557 жыл бұрын

    *Remember the U.S.S. Liberty !!! Israel's Navy and Air Force attacked the United States' ship Liberty, a technical research ship, which was sailing in international waters in the Mediterranean on June 8, 1967. Thirty-four American sailors died and over 170 American sailors were injured. Israeli war planes dropped napalm bombs on the ship, used iron-piercing ammunition, and even strafed the lifeboats the sailors had thrown over the side when the ship's commander ordered the ship to be abandoned. Israeli torpedo ships attacked the Liberty and one torpedo exploded, immediately killing twenty-five sailors. The ship was flying an American flag and was there to intercept information, which might have been 'inconvenient' for the Israelis. This was during the week of Israel's invasion of Egypt, Jordan and Syria in June 1967, known as the Six-Day War. President Johnson and McNamara covered this up and many parts of the information only recently became public. Johnson later called the tragedy an 'accident' because he was running for election and couldn't afford to aggravate the Zionist Lobby. We are only a convenience for Israel -- they like receiving our money and weapons -- otherwise, they have no more consideration for us than they do for the Palestinians.* (You can see videos of the U.S.S. Liberty disaster on You Tube.)

  • @fuzzydunlop7928

    @fuzzydunlop7928

    7 жыл бұрын

    That's literally ANY Nation-State. There are no friendships in Global Relations.

  • @servus_incognitus

    @servus_incognitus

    Жыл бұрын

    You're delusional. The USA isn't a tool for Israel; Israel is a US colony to expand power in the Middle East and destabilise the region.

  • @ericsbraun

    @ericsbraun

    10 ай бұрын

    @@fuzzydunlop7928 Yeah, um.. They knew Kissinger and Nixon were on the other end of the deal.

  • @Steven-gn9vr

    @Steven-gn9vr

    7 ай бұрын

    @@fuzzydunlop7928 No friendship between France and Germany? Or the UK and US?

  • @babyyoda3694

    @babyyoda3694

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep. Lavon Affair, Dancing Israelis, etc. Israel is not the ally our government and media would have us believe. We need to cut off all funding to Israel and weed out all Zionists in our government. We might not be able to solve the Israel-Palestine conflict, but we don't need to keep making it worse.

  • @justworship0570
    @justworship05707 ай бұрын

    From the river to the sea Palestine will be free

  • @MassimoAngotzi

    @MassimoAngotzi

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, sure… keep on dreaming

  • @justworship0570
    @justworship05707 ай бұрын

    Salam from Dagestan ❤

  • @sunny_zeddy_cy
    @sunny_zeddy_cy6 ай бұрын

    Noam is the greatest scholarly socio-economic mind of our age, he's not seeking support or following, he's just great also his brain is an encyclopédia nowadays they have to invent AI just to have something to replace him

  • @lugal-zage-si4782
    @lugal-zage-si47828 жыл бұрын

    Chomsky has never been more right

  • @coreycox2345

    @coreycox2345

    8 жыл бұрын

    He is always sort of like this...right.

  • @CMO999

    @CMO999

    8 жыл бұрын

    He's missing an important point: the 67 lines leave Israel in a compromised security position where they could be easily attacked. Remember, as soon as Israel existed, it was attacked from all sides. Their neighbors want to kill them.

  • @CMO999

    @CMO999

    8 жыл бұрын

    Aethion I'm not getting your angle here. You are obviously making an attempt at sarcasm, but for that to work, you kind of have to have a concise point to go along with it.

  • @CMO999

    @CMO999

    8 жыл бұрын

    Aethion Study your history a bit before making such statements. The UN agreed to reinstate the nation of Israel, which was disbanded by the Roman empire.. Then, Israel was attacked from all sides. If you don't believe me I'll provide links, I don't have time to at this moment. Let me know.

  • @CMO999

    @CMO999

    8 жыл бұрын

    Aethion You're not making any sense buddy. There is no doubt that Israel was the historical land of the Jews before it was disbanded by the Roman empire. As far as the history recorded in the bible, or Torah, that is irrelevant. The Torah is not a historically accurate document by any standards other than those with faith. The existence of Israel as Jewish state, on the other hand, is a historical documented fact. Why do you hate Jews so much? I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I'm happy to see the Jews return to their ancestral land. There's more going on than you realize, it is centuries of religious hatred started by the mass murdering, raping, pillaging, torturing "Prophet Mohamed" Peace Be Upon Him.

  • @RGMDG
    @RGMDG7 ай бұрын

    He says the solution is easy. No the solution is simple. But it will never be easy.

  • @JK12518

    @JK12518

    7 ай бұрын

    Dude is stupid. Can't even think of another system of government but rails for a known failed type of government.

  • @jhegre

    @jhegre

    6 ай бұрын

    @@JK12518 give your hasbara bs a break

  • @LailaAhmed-re5co
    @LailaAhmed-re5co23 күн бұрын

    “This is a relatively easy one to find a solution”

  • @ABetcetera
    @ABetcetera8 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Chomsky has a list of folks he thinks equal his passion and understanding on these topics. I imagine he does. It would be interesting to know what community he stands in when looking for support from like minded fellows.

  • @chomskysphilosophy

    @chomskysphilosophy

    8 жыл бұрын

    Norman Finkelstein (also a friend of Noam) has done important work on the Israel/Palestine conflict.

  • @ABetcetera

    @ABetcetera

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Chomsky's Philosophy Noted, thanks

  • @LOLerino1

    @LOLerino1

    8 жыл бұрын

    He doesn't need support, that's the point, he is not a politician. He is simply expressing his objective opinions, and a good one at that. We should all learn from him and stop following, stop trying to fit in in some predefined group, and just be true to one self. specially young people of today, which I think he would call "owned"

  • @jessebaker3099

    @jessebaker3099

    8 жыл бұрын

    Objective? With Vanity Fair as source he cites for his thesis that the USA planned and controlled the aftermath of the election Hamas won in 2006? Government is a nasty business, where we should not think the actions of US leaders above criticism. Yet Chomsky's burning hatred for the country which has given him lifetime tenure on a high salary at one of its best academic institutions astonishes me. I've never heard him propose an affirmative program to deal with the many problems of power and poverty in our world; cynical deconstruction is all we expect from Chomsky as he labels former US presidents as war criminals, not to mention his ridiculously inflated casualty counts.

  • @jessebaker3099

    @jessebaker3099

    8 жыл бұрын

    Aethion - It's not a matter of who is smarter. No doubt Chomsky would win that contest; indeed I would respect his expertise when it comes to linguistics or AI. But smart people can be wrong even on facts; and here we're dealing with political opinion anyhow. I don't have to play the game of finding Google search results to link to because I haven't made any claims of fact. In this video Chomsky accuses the United States of war crimes in Palestine. Therefore, he has the burden of proof. To be fair and clarify, Chomsky probably does not hate ordinary Americans and does not seem to have an anger-driven personality. What he hates is the US government, its presidents, its military staff, and the executives of its larger private corporations. However, I conceded that the US system is far from perfect and that being suspicious of government is often justified. We have no shortage of violence in our history. But I'm gonna challenge Chomsky and his Marxist friends to come up with something better. The one experiment to date in total rejection of capitalism in the world, the USSR, had far bloodier internal affairs than we've ever had.

  • @yabbadabbadoo8225
    @yabbadabbadoo82257 ай бұрын

    Nowhere in the Bible is there a Star of David, but this form did exist in pagan Egypt and Babylon. God never gave His people flags or symbols, these are all 100% pagan in nature

  • @zerobyter
    @zerobyter8 жыл бұрын

    0:36 then why didn't they agree before the 1967 lines changed?

  • @scroobly6018

    @scroobly6018

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@xzShsjmwnj What? That map shows the Jews getting a tiny portion of coastline (much of it being shared with the proposed arab state) then 70% of the proposed Jewish state is almost uninhabitable desert. How in the world does that map favour the jews? Not to mention that the piece "hilly, barren land" you claim has no use contains some of the most culturally significant landmarks and locations to both arabs and jews. Your argument and use of that map to support it is terribly flawed. "they thought it was their country and their land. They had fought off the Ottomans during WWI, put up with British rule for 30 years, and were finally getting 'freedom', why would they accept giving up half their country to a bunch of new, European settlers who had just moved there?" It doesn't matter if they THOUGHT the country was their land. That just means they are ignorant to the history of the land, or chose to ignore it's history. "Palestinian" arabs are not indigenous to that land. They are the results of several different civilizations who took that land by force, many of which expelled the people living there before them. One of those expelled groups just so happens to be the ancestors of the so called "European settlers" you referred to. This can all be backed up by both genetic and archaeological evidence. lawrenceschiffman.com/history-and-genetics-ashkenazic-jewry-in-the-rhineland/ "historians have maintained that the Ashkenazic communities of medieval Franco-Germany (Hebrew: Ashkenazi) were developed as a result of a process by which Jews came from the Land of Israel to the boot of Italy, moved up further to the north of Italy, and then moved further up into areas that are now parts of northern France and Germany." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/ "Four founder mitochondrial haplogroups of Middle Eastern origins comprise approximately 40% of the Ashkenazi Jewish genetic pool, whereas the remainder is comprised of other haplogroups, many of European origin and supporting the degree of admixture observed in the current study."

  • @AL-op3ue

    @AL-op3ue

    3 жыл бұрын

    i think its because before 1967 gaza was part of egypt and west bank part of jordan, so the Palestinians didnt have the self-determination to agree or disagree with anything

  • @freenational
    @freenational6 жыл бұрын

    It is amazing that he repeatedly say America have unwavering support for Israel despite world opinion but does not recognize that American politicians could be corrupted by Israel and its agents in the US.

  • @doccarter5283

    @doccarter5283

    10 ай бұрын

    Comes to the same thing so your point is moot.

  • @isaacc154
    @isaacc1547 ай бұрын

    No one

  • @danprump72
    @danprump727 ай бұрын

    Did anyone ever ask him..where he gets his information from?

  • @JK12518

    @JK12518

    7 ай бұрын

    No one. Old dude thinking his experience is better than obviously genetically better humans. Trump, bidden...etc...all the same.

  • @louisgottlieb3148

    @louisgottlieb3148

    6 ай бұрын

    Good good question. He is an independent thinker and has been interested in this subject for decennia. BUT is that the whole story ?

  • @ho-mt7pn

    @ho-mt7pn

    6 ай бұрын

    for sure not mainstream media

  • @DonkNinja
    @DonkNinja7 ай бұрын

    He. Speak like bill gates

  • @sonarbangla8711
    @sonarbangla87117 ай бұрын

    US knows PLO won't accept Israel, yet Chomsky fail to quote the scripture calling for their homeland in Egypt. Bibi was mart enough to propose Hamas to be shifted to Sinai. When will Chomsky follow the scripture?

  • @intuitionz1198

    @intuitionz1198

    7 ай бұрын

    religion of any kind has no place in this world. it should not be the basis of any foreign policy.

  • @MnyFrNthng

    @MnyFrNthng

    7 ай бұрын

    F your scripture. We care about peace and humanity, not demonic bullshit written by goat herders.

  • @MnyFrNthng

    @MnyFrNthng

    7 ай бұрын

    By the way it may be news for you but PLO has accepted Israel's existence since the Oslo accord. You showed the regular religious ignorance as expected.

  • @sonarbangla8711

    @sonarbangla8711

    7 ай бұрын

    How glad are you that PLO accepted Israel's existence? PLO,s stand was engraved in Palestinian constitution by Arafat and now it is too late to change (Chomsky admits Arafat's solution is one of three possible) . If you are not ignorant of the Judaic scripture you suffer the same fate as Chomsky suffered, ignoring the scripture earns God's wrath.@@MnyFrNthng

  • @MnyFrNthng

    @MnyFrNthng

    7 ай бұрын

    @@sonarbangla8711 again F your scripture. I don't give shit about your religious bullshit. Religion is the hand of the evil on this Earth. And you are a member. F your god, f your religion, f your Jesus or whatever prophet you accept, f your holy bullshit.

  • @JK12518
    @JK125187 ай бұрын

    This dude need to publicly apologize for this. His shortsighted thoughts gave less advantage people false hope. And look what happened.

  • @MnyFrNthng

    @MnyFrNthng

    7 ай бұрын

    Which shortsightedness? Do you mean he saw what to come years earlier?

  • @JK12518

    @JK12518

    7 ай бұрын

    @@MnyFrNthngI mean the type where you have an ambassador condemning an attack when it is thought to be one side...but the moment he finds out it is from his side cannot DO the same. These are the exact people you don't won't in leadership roles.

  • @MnyFrNthng

    @MnyFrNthng

    7 ай бұрын

    @@JK12518 which ambassador? I missed that news apparently. Inform me please.

  • @JK12518

    @JK12518

    7 ай бұрын

    @@MnyFrNthngNot my responsibility to inform you. Inform yourself. It socially the least you can do.

  • @jhegre

    @jhegre

    6 ай бұрын

    @@JK12518 you make no sense

  • @petedeiler9431
    @petedeiler94318 жыл бұрын

    THERE IS NO CONFLICT EXCEPT HIS

  • @rationalobserver3675

    @rationalobserver3675

    3 жыл бұрын

    What?

  • @NasserShakaa

    @NasserShakaa

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. What?

  • @gonz0314jon

    @gonz0314jon

    3 жыл бұрын

    ???

  • @hamsahamdan484

    @hamsahamdan484

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is no conflict Only oppression of the Palestinian people

  • @hamsahamdan484

    @hamsahamdan484

    3 жыл бұрын

    And self defence

  • @Mevlinous
    @Mevlinous7 ай бұрын

    Of course Chomsky suffers here from near sightedness, forgetting all the prior history of the muslims in the region, who conquered through holy war, against the original Jewish inhabitants.

  • @snare804

    @snare804

    7 ай бұрын

    so we should give all people their land back who ever lost it through war?

  • @Mevlinous

    @Mevlinous

    7 ай бұрын

    @@snare804 I’m saying understand why they might want to hold onto it.

  • @Lethargie55

    @Lethargie55

    7 ай бұрын

    have you ever heard of the Roman Empire?

  • @MedojedKapsky

    @MedojedKapsky

    7 ай бұрын

    You need to go back to school. By the time Islam even came to exist, jewish people were already scattered out of the Palestine for 500 years.

  • @KazantheMan579

    @KazantheMan579

    6 ай бұрын

    Is this what they teach in Israeli schools? This blatant ignorance to basic historical facts is genuinely surprising for me.

  • @Mevlinous
    @Mevlinous7 ай бұрын

    If you want to learn about oppression read the old and New Testament bibles. Nuff said. Then shut your trap about the Israelis. I’d say they have earned a place on the map.

  • @tonisimeunic7717

    @tonisimeunic7717

    7 ай бұрын

    You will believe those hokus pokus books that were made in first place to control people at that time lol. Man made stories and fairytales. This is like me saying Germans have to move out from Germany because Roman Empire existed there and Italy is a true successor for Germany 🤣😅 LOL why we just don’t move all out because earlier there were Dinos like millions of the years back.

  • @tari8134

    @tari8134

    7 ай бұрын

    Your source is the bible? A non-historical fairy tale book. Come on, you can do better than that.

  • @Mevlinous

    @Mevlinous

    7 ай бұрын

    @@tari8134 if you don’t believe the bible has some historical value you are ignorant. The people (races) and places are reflective of history, though many of the events may have been embellished.

  • @stephenlasko9217

    @stephenlasko9217

    7 ай бұрын

    Sure a place on the map just not an ever-increasing one that gobbles up more Palestinian lands every decade.

  • @rt-uh6mt

    @rt-uh6mt

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@tari8134 non-historical? What an ignoramus you are.

  • @jeffinjoy17
    @jeffinjoy172 жыл бұрын

    Jerusalem is the first holiest site of Christians and Jews like Mecca and Medina is to muslims. So let the Jews and Christians have it

  • @nataliekhanyola5669

    @nataliekhanyola5669

    Жыл бұрын

    Al aqsa mosque is Jerusalem so your comment is completely stupid. Also... Palestinian Christians exist! Bethlehem is a Palestinian city.

  • @jeffinjoy17

    @jeffinjoy17

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nataliekhanyola5669 mosque was built later on by invaders, so who's comment is stupidest?

  • @brandonszpot8948

    @brandonszpot8948

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree! Christians, Jews, and Muslims may all share Jerusalem when the Zionist genocide+occupation ends!

  • @doccarter5283

    @doccarter5283

    10 ай бұрын

    Plenty of Palestinian Christians.

  • @najlaaismail4792

    @najlaaismail4792

    7 ай бұрын

    Shut up

  • @murielpaslard5690
    @murielpaslard569022 күн бұрын

    Israël has discreetly supported Hamas and let it throw out the Fatah from Gaza… and the politic was specially to weaken the Palestinian in order to block the 2 states solutions, because terrorist cannot be acceptable as a state. This was always the strategy of Bibi since 20 years.