I really respect Sir Chomsky and all Western FREE people who support the Just Causes. those who do not follow the herd and what the media say. they stand against their own nations to support oppressed peoples. You all deserve to be respected

@MegaGeneral1

7 жыл бұрын

Ayman Ssdfozedp I agree with you a hundred percent free Palestine!!!

@Wildcowboy64

4 жыл бұрын

Palestine was offered peace 5 times by Israel and rejected it every single time.

@paulconnelly4050

3 жыл бұрын

Austrian Zoomer you sound like a scratched record. A scratched record containing lies.

A great commentary on the current situation

Great interview. Polite and interesting questions, and Professor Chomsky points the way forward towards more information on the Palestine-Israel situation and a change in US public opinion. Against Israel.

@AlexGordonMusic

7 жыл бұрын

Stephen Hoare-Vance yes, it's israels fault that honor killing has doubled in the past year in Palestine...... or that hamas makes children's programming about completing the final solution..... or that genocide is explicit in hamas charter. Hooray, Noam. Deserves the nobel peace prize for Obscurantism.

People are so divided! Religion,patriotism,race,gender,class,politics. The elites love it.It keeps us from seeing what they do to us.

Like Norman Finkelstein says: Professor Noam Chomsky was a force of nature on so many levels 🎉 He is a phenomenon ❤

@Tesla_Death_Ray

5 күн бұрын

"Was"?

@DonVoghano Moreover, I'd asked you previously that, seeing as you said that settlers may take over any land provided it is "uninhabited" and "like water and air, nobody can claim ownership of land", will you therefore say that I can go to the vast, open and uninhabited areas of the US and Canada and set up my own country there, seeing as they're uninhabited? Will either country agree with the argument that because those areas are uninhabited, they therefore belong to no one?

@DonVoghano Or better still, show links to where you've challenged the concepts of home owner ship and "private property" in your country or neighbourhood.

@docakh Okay? Are you unfamiliar with the use of the word in the context of that sentence or are you just simply "blown away" by it?

Thank you Noam. For everything.

@Vierotchka wrong, you are mistaking Hebrews, a small Phoenicians group, with Jews.

@JerrySPsy The earliest historic (written) evidences of them are found in the Fertile Crescent, an area encompassing the Akkadian, Babylonian and Assyrian civilizations along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers (modern Iraq), extending northwest into southern Asia Minor (modern Turkey) and the Levant (modern Syria and Lebanon along the eastern Mediterranean.

Thank you for providing the sources in the video.

What a wise man I enjoyed listening, learned so much.

@DonVoghano Will either country agree with the argument that if I took over such uninhabited areas of their territory and bore children there, my children are therefore natives of those areas?

@JerrySPsy Early traces of Semitic speakers are found, too, in South Arabian inscriptions in Yemen, Eritrea, Northern Ethiopia, and after this in Carthage (modern Tunisia) and later still, in Roman times, in Nabataean inscriptions from Petra (modern Jordan) south into Arabia. I guess you don't consider what's happening to the Palestinians atrocious!

Truth must be told

Good morning, Libby. So why do you attack me instead of looking into Chomsky family history.

@Titoscudd I suggest risperidone (1mg), to be taken morning and evening accompained with good psychotherapic sessions with a serious professional for about a year. It might help with some of the rage and delusions, and then again it might not. If you are afraid of interactions and side effects of heavy antipsychotics allow me to direct you to a moderate consumption of cannabis which could also be of some marginal aid. Good luck with everything, bro.

@DonVoghano The import of your statement tells me that, what is happening in Palestine, which had happened in the Americas, New Zealand, Australia and was attempted in Africa can still happen in this day and age because, all it takes is for a group of settlers to desire to settle in a new place even if that means displacing indigenes and dispossessing them of land either through overt violence or some other means. So, your issue with Israel isn't the take over of land but the method used?

i love this guy's logic!

@888Kharami Absolutely...I totally agree!!!

Not that it needs to be said but Chomsky is the man.

@JBBlitz amen.

Noam Chomsky is a great smart honest man. Wish he could be Israel's prime minister!

@jamiemalokas3693

6 жыл бұрын

Amen O K . Wish he could be dual prime minister and USA president.

@nickodemo1

6 жыл бұрын

LOL israhell shouldn t exist in first place whatsoever

@diegobotto6245

5 жыл бұрын

They banned him off Israel

@harmonyvegan

5 жыл бұрын

And also UK Prime Minister too if he has time, cool thanks.

@DonVoghano Does it mean that because at this point in history, Siberia is considered part of Russia, Vladimir Putin can therefore claim to be a native Siberian or, absent the force of arms, claim to have greater right to Siberia than native Siberians? Does that not tell you that even Putin knows that, although he is Russian, he isn't a native Siberian?

@DonVoghano Are the deserts of California and Arizona "unsettled space"? Are the ice deserts of Alaska, the Sorth and South Poles and Siberia also "unsettled space"? Do you mean that anyone or group of people can just relocate to any of these places and set up a new country seeing as these places have no permanent human inhabitants? Do you also believe that no nation has the right therefore, to curtail mass immigration into its territory?

@StraussBR when a state is sanctioned, like in Iran, it is the citizens who are sanctioned.

@Titoscudd Secondly this bit about the Moors is just silly. Take Sicily, inhabited by Sicani and the Sicels (prehistoric people), then conquered by the Greeks, then taken over by the Carthaginians, then conquered by the Romans, then again by Greek Byzantines and only then by the Arabs - who got kicked out by the Normans, it then became Spanish and ultimately Italian. Each conquering people had a different ethnic cultural and linguistic background. So now WHO really is Sicilian?

@fleontrotsky Yes this is tiresome - allow me to walk you through this. It was not only Mark Twain who commented on his observations while traveling through Palestine (& please tell me why his comments don't count). Arthur Penrhyn Stanley, the great British cartographer, reached similar conclusions in 1881: "In Judea it is hardly an exaggeration to say that for miles and miles there was no appearance of life or habitation."

@ilikebac0n Norman Finklestein (spelling) is your man.

@EasternGateGuardian Phoenicians are a Semite people, as are Arabs and Jews. I am not mistaking anything at all.

@Titoscudd I'm glad you mentioned blacks. How would you define a black American today? According to your standards he's clearly not American, however due to intermixing and centuries of separation, he would not fit into any African population. So where do you fit African Americans? In Libera where black ex-slaves displaced the native Africans? Or is your discriminant simply the skin color, making you a contemporary Nazi?

@gunnerfan87 I couldn't agree more.

@fleontrotsky Now I see you couldn't refute numbers 3, 4 (actually I mistakenly numbered two items with #4) and 5. #6 There are plenty of references attested to the fact that scores of Arabs left their homes - including You Tube videos that show Palestinians admitting to this. #7 Most Arabs came from surrounding Arab countries to work for the British between WWI and WWII. Cont'd

Armistice lines aren't borders.

@JerrySPsy Sorry meant to write that the vast majority of so-called "Palestinians" came later - from other Arab countries -- mostly to work for the British between WWI and WWII, as stated by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1939: "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period."

@JerrySPsy 80% of the population living on less than $2 per day with unemployment at 45%

@Titoscudd So what about all the other peoples that passed through Italy with different ethnicity, language and customs? Or are they all alike because they were "white"? Are the Europeans really European or are the Basque people more European than the Europeans? Or perhaps the real Europeans were the Neanderthals that got killed off by the Sapiens Sapiens?

@EasternGateGuardian Ageed, along with many others. If only international justice were not just a system to condemn the enemies and ratify the crimes of the strong... But that is another sad truth that we have to swallow.

@JerrySPsy I understand that for biographical reasons you choose not to see certain things. However it's not up to you to determine whether an occupation is or isn't taking place. International AND Israeli sources are in agreement: the occupation exists. It is illegitimate, as is the Gaza siege AND the annexation wall AND the settlements according to any piece of international law and military treaty including the Geneva convention or the principles adopted against Nazis in the Nuremberg trials.

@adnanahmad23 "And where logic holds dominion over heart, there will be walls built; and subsidy will separate the meek from the plenty; tho' riches will be bestowed upon the poor, reward will destroy faith"

And if that money destroys Palestinian lives to make way for the settlements, then I suppose that doesn't matter?!??!

@StraussBR do you also believe that the war crimes and crimes against humanity of the state of isa'heil against the people of Palestine can go unpunished? truthfully, I'm more interested in justice then some peace at this point.

@coderamen666

3 ай бұрын

Retaliation isn't justice. Peace is justice

@JerrySPsy Like I stated before, this position could have had some validity tens of years ago, but at present the only ones not accepting a partition are the Israelis. Their logic at present is to keep through military might anything that is of value in the territories and to keep the Palestinians in social, political and economic disarray.

@fleontrotsky The British Consul General, James Finn, wrote in 1857 that "the country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants." He added that the land's "greatest need is that of a body of population." I could go on and on but let's move to number 2. Google “Redeemers of the Land” by Naftalie Greenwood and you will see documentation of the purchases of huge tracts of land in Israel by the Jewish National Fund, other groups, and individual Jews.

@JerrySPsy So what in your view, aside from the complete disappearance of the Palestinians or all 1.x billion Arabs, could bring about peace in the region? If it is true that constant military escalation and draconian security measures are necessary because "Arabs will never accept the Jews" then doesn't that put into question the whole idea of the viability of a Jewish state in Palestine? Note that this is not my position, it's a conclusion that your views entail.

@JerrySPsy I am afraid we could go on for ages with this. The historical record about Palestinian presence is solid, the claims that there were no Palestinians has been proved in more than one occasion to be a fraud, as in Norman Finkelstein's (

@DonVoghano There certainly is such thing as gambling and losing! It happens in casinos, card games, crimes, wars, etc. If I go in to rob a bank I my end up with bags of money but I also risk getting killed by bank security or ending up in jail and losing what assets I may already have, How is that different from the risks Arabs take when they repeatedly waged wars of "extermination" on Israel? Are they only supposed to win? What are the consequences of suffering a loss?

@DonVoghano LOL!! Don't feed me words. I did not say that a Black citizen of Scottland will never be able to call themselves Scottish. What I said is that such a citizen, is not a native of Scotland.

@JerrySPsy Now within Israel's fragile political equilibria such concepts are hard to accept: the politicians are hostage of the huge economic interests of the military complex and the need to flex their muscles against the Arabs to show off to the electorate. A situation that parallels the political stalemate of the US which also ends up resulting in permanent military commitments, to the detriment of the citizen's security and finances.

@EasternGateGuardian Haplogroups show that the original Nordic and Germanic stock genetically is closely related to Arabs and Jews. Hpg I1 is associated with the Nordic and Germanic peoples and where they have spread. I1 is most common in Scandinavia where 40% of the males belong to I1. Hpg I2 is found throughout Europe, except northern Europe, in most of the Middle East and the Magreb countries. Hpg I2 is most common on the Balkans.

@EasternGateGuardian I was not referring to the Bible - I agree that most of the contents of the Old Testament are borrowed from more ancient religions in those places where the Hebrews lived, such as Mesopotamia. Nevertheless, there is indeed a distinct DNA among Jews - practicing Judaism or not, converted to Christianity and other religions or not. Why don't you read the article to which I provided you with a link instead of spewing your nonsense?

@rajasmasala Plus look at how small this place is, development if handled with proper oversight would be ridiculously easy to enact. It's the Israelis who always stop the attempts, and this is just clearly either the third option in play or Hamas paying off Israeli soldiers (I strongly doubt).

Chomsky is my hero

@Titoscudd Bro, the one unwittingly Eurocentric is you with these notion about property rights. Land cannot be owned, air and water cannot be owned. But there is a difference between colonizing settled and unsettled space. As long as violence is curtailed there is nothing morally wrong about a population's migration. Sadly violence is rarely curtailed in human history, but this is quite independent from the brutal EU colonization.

@PrimateDynasty Obviously, I meant actual names, references to who these people really are. Are they Zionists? Are they Republicans? Questions as such. I will look into it.

@adnanahmad23 "Where there is only logic, there is no room for love"

@judithsochor9755

6 жыл бұрын

carefulcarpenter

Why couldn't Israel give up other land instead of West Bank, (because of it's Security importance)?

@DonVoghano Excuse me. Although I haven't followed this discussion from the start, but, I find this comment that "no human has a justified claim to any piece of land" rather disturbing because, it smacks of European colonialist intellectual distortion. So, you mean that the Native Americans, Aborigines, Maoris, Africans, etc didn't have "a justified claim to" their land? Would you be so certain of this if the tables were turned and technological superiority weren't skewed towards Europe?

@JerrySPsy Bro I think your moral compass is a bit off. Even if we assume that the Jews encountered a second holocaust in Palestine, once they established themselves as the dominant military power in the region (with nuclear deterrents even) within recognized borders, they cannot claim defense when expanding through those borders. Now, the recognized border IS the green line, whatever happens outside of it IS aggression, and no amount of sophism can change this basic fact.

@JerrySPsy The Lebanese took Lebanon back and Gaza was never given up, it was simply turned into an open air prison. About the Sinai, now that was really indefensible. But in giving back the Sinai Israel also accomplished peace with Egypt, removing the only serious threat to its existence. Today, apart from inflamatory rhetoric, no Arab seriously considers war with Israel. The only thing getting in the way of true security for Israel today is the continued occupation.

@DonVoghano Go and read about the Herero, Ashanti, Jaja of Opobo, Efunsetan Aniwura, etc. Those who opposed the Europeans were branded "savages", "uncivilized", "extremists", etc. Very similar to what was done to all native Americans who resisted European expansionism and the very same thing is happening today in Arab nations where those who oppose your policies are branded "extremists", "Jihadists", etc

@Itchhhh Please, put that away.

@fleontrotsky 1) Irgun was estab. in response to repeated Arab massacres of peaceful unarmed Jews. They did what they had to to defend Jews & prevent further attacks. 2) Homes of those who plan or carry out terrorist acts are bulldozed as are illegally built homes 3) Following a review requested by Harvard Law School Dean Elena Kagan, determined that no plagiarism had occurred in the Dershowitz-Peters issue. 4) Israel is NOT an apartheid state by any interpretaion of the meaning of that term.

5:30 US blocking settlements in words but not actions. 6:30 One state or two states? 11:10 Obama 30 billion military aid commitment over 10 years to Israel

@Titoscudd The European's advancements in brutality allowed them to more effectively do what every human group through history and geography had done. This nativist posture is just logically preposterous: according to this logic how should I go about determining the "righteous owners" of a land like Italy, where pretty much every population from 10k square miles has passed and settled and resettled?

@DonVoghano The relevance of the Moors is that when White Europeans gained the upper hand after the demise of the Moorish empire, the cleansed Italy and Spain of the Moors. PERIOD. And at that time, the reason why they singled out the Moors for such eradication was because, the Europeans knew who was a native and who wasn't. And at that time, people like you didn't raise doubts as to their definition of it.

@EasternGateGuardian Aryans don't come from India - they invaded India. Aryans were the Persians. You say you deal only in facts, but you sure don't have more than a handful, if that.

@boumar19721972 Yep, divided we fall.

@DonVoghano If world leaders remain silent in the face of French and German assertions that Turks and north Africans aren't natives of either country and must therefore "assimilate" as "integration" has failed, then, that tells you that world leaders do have an understanding of who is native to a country or region and who isn't. And who gives a damn what a prattling key board hero has to say about it?

@DonVoghano Off course no one can tell Israel to just disappear. But the fact is that in the charters of all of these Palestinian organizations call for the elimination of Israel & the Jews. It was the Arabs who did not respect the borders that were established by the international community & they were condemned by the UN for waging war on Israel.Every time Israel gives land back it comes back to haunt them. Don't deny that if the situation were reversed all Jews would either be dead or gone.

A question I'd like to know, who profits from Israel buying weapons from America?

@paulconnelly4050

6 жыл бұрын

GamerDudester they don’t even buy them. The US gives Israel foreign aid to the tune of 30 Billion US dollars, which the Israeli government uses to ‘buy’ weapons from the USA. So in effect the American tax payer is paying for all of this. It’s a nice racket for Israel and the defence companies. Why do you think no US politician would dare stop foreign aid, the majority of the allocated budget goes to Israel, the justification being its a key strategic ally and also one that needs to protect itself from hostile neighbours (despite being and for many decades the most powerful military force in that region and a nuclear one at that, ranked at various times at between top ten to top 5 in the world rankings for military power).

@EasternGateGuardian No, DNA cannot determine if an individual is Muslim or Christian, but it certainly can determine if an individual is a Jew. Jewishness is not just adherence to Judaism, it is a distinct people with distinct DNA markers.

@DonVoghano No developed nation or people in the world today would be where they are without having first established ownership of land and the resources thereon. Which is why Europeans made sure that they embarked on a concerted and determined effort to take over land and the ownership of its resources from indigenous peoples where ever they encountered them. Which is why such European settlers have prospered while their victims have been decimated.

@fleontrotsky They are NOT stealing Arab and there is NO occupation! Consider these irrefutable points (references can be provided): 1) So-called "Palestine" was quite desolate when Zionists started to return to their ancient homeland & join those Jews whose families had been living for centuries. 2) Huge tracts of land were BOUGHT by the Jewish National Fund & other Jewish organizations. Also individual Jews bought land and homes from Arabs & Turks - at exorbitant prices. (Continued)

@JerrySPsy You seem not to want to understand. There is no such thing as gambling and losing, and nobody is telling Israel to disappear. Israel has borders, a settlement must happen within those borders with minor land-swaps and adjustments which take into account security as well as territorial integrity. Israel simply refuses to accept them because as long as it has US arms behind it, it can continue to subsidize settlements and illegally build walls and buldoze houses.

@DonVoghano It is not an occupation and it is not illegitimate at all. There are few Israeli groups that would say otherwise and the one's that do are a bunch of peaceniks who have lost sight of the history of this conflict and the way things unfolded. Other international groups and the UN have never been fair in their dealings with Israel and are influenced by the Arab majority. I have many examples of this.

@DonVoghano My challenge to you still stands - direct me to a SINGLE comment by you where you have challenged the concept of ownership of land and territory by your national govt. or where you have spoken out against the designation of undocumented immigrants to your country as "illegal" on the basis that "land and water cannot be owned by anyone and therefore belongs to everyone".

@fleontrotsky As they waged wars Arab leaders have repeatedly used exact quotes such as "drive the Jews into the sea," Azzam Pasha announced: "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades" Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve." This is all Isalmic extremists know - they even find reasons to kill each other (e.g. Hamas & Fatah) but Jews are supposed to put up with it?!

@JerrySPsy This is just offensive. I will continue to assume that you are in good faith despite this and point you to the innumerable human rights reports by Israeli and international agencies which sketch out quite a different picture of life in Gaza.

@Vierotchka you did not investigate didn't you. from Phoenician letters came Greek, and runes. True hebrew called archaic is simple Phoenician. Modern hebrew is an 300years old invention. I only deal in facts.

@EasternGateGuardian You can pretend to dispel it, but if you had the first little bit of knowledge of ancient history, your pretense that all Germanic people are descended from the Phoenicians is ludicrous on its face and totally erroneous.

@Itchhhh It's not because people can see the future they just can see how history repeats itself! Not because of some divine magic.LOL!

@DonVoghano No, Israel withdrew from Lebanon just like it withdrew from Gaza. In Gaza it was painful since many Jews had to be forcefully removed & their homes destroyed. . Businesses and infrastructure was left behind for the Gazans - all as a gesture of peace. It is hardly a prison - it has luxury malls, among the highest rates of obesity in the world, and their markets are overflowing with food. You expect Israel to just allow free access into it by people who repeatedly vow to destroy it?!

"Perspective is broader than logic" ~~cc

Can someone explain to me who in the US has the right to control or vote upon vetoing UN resolutions? Does the directive come directly from the president's office? Or does all of congress have a vote on the matter?

@shyguy778

7 жыл бұрын

***** Could you link to a source that defines the veto power in the US being in the hands of the president, and that outlines both the power and limitations (if any) of how and when he is allowed to wield this power in the UN?

@shyguy778

7 жыл бұрын

Could you outline the specific part of the US constitution that you refer to? That which defines control over, or control over all legislation similar to that of the countries UN Security council Veto within US government?

@MegaGeneral1

7 жыл бұрын

shyguy778 www.un.org/en/sc/meetings/voting.shtml

I think if there is a God, he would be so angry at Israel and Palestine, for doing such things on the holy land. Whoever is keeping the situation there as is and blocking a reasonable solution should be ashamed of themselves. I mean look at what they have done to the place. Tall walls to segregate different sections, so many checkpoints with armed forces to block everything. The whole thing is a mess. God values love and harmony I would think. And on his holyland he sees none. Is this way to worship God? I think not. It is like you say someone is your favorite person and go piss at their front door.

@DonVoghano LOL!! I'm not surprised that you're so versed in prescribing psycoactive drugs and even the effects of cannabis. Frankly speaking, I wouldn't know anything about them because I don't take them and neither do I raid medicine boxes to avail myself of their "treats". Your detailed knowledge of these drugs and doses must come from experience, huh? Once again, I challenge you to furnish links to where you have challenged your country's claim to ownership of its territory.

this guy sounds perma stoned!

@DonVoghano The tides of history are gradually shifting, and in a few decades, we will revisit this issue and address the presence of Europeans on several continents in a more objective and even handed way. So, you don't worry, in a few years, you'll be a little more lucid and not so inebriated with your delusions of eternal Western dominance. Remember this, less than a hundred years ago, EVERY Briton believed that "the sun will never set on the British Empire".An inane statement today, yes?

@fleontrotsky UN resolutions will begin to mean something to Israel when the UN comes out with resolutions in Israel's favor for once - or condemns a country when they attack Israel - how come we never see that? When Syria relentlessly pounded Israel for years from the Golan Hts they appealed to the UN but they remained silent so Israel took the Golan Hts - and guess what - they were condemned for it! And show me where I made a racist - or a distorted - statement.

@JerrySPsy If the Israelis truly want to claim to be on a better moral standing than the Arabs, they should abide by international laws and the treaties that, borne out of horror, have been put into place to prevent further horror. Time has long been mature to normalize relations with the neighbors as they themselves have shown to want in the aftermath of the predictable early military conflicts. The treadmill of hate must stop, and only the stronger party can make it stop.

@DonVoghano The problem with New Historians is that they pick up on the action at a more recent point in time and are ignorant to the antecedents of this whole conflict. The irrefutable fact of the matter is that current day events have unfolded due to the history of murderous conflict between Arabs & Jews that was started when the Arabs started massacring innocent, peaceful, unarmed Jews in a number of towns, villages, *& settlements which predated ANY violence on the part of Jews toward Arabs.

@JerrySPsy You still have not told me why Israel cannot agree with a 2 state settlement on the green line that everyone recognizes. So they have a right to counter-attack and annex freely? Every international source agrees in condemning the wall and the settlements, even Obama has farsicle rhetoric moments in which he condemns them, yet you seem to condone it all because of a tribal right of "counter-attack," not defense mind you, cuz that IS accomplished....

@fleontrotsky 1) The Igrun was actually the predecessor to Israel's army. They had be undergound since the British would not allow them to have weapons. I guess you would have loved it if Jews never formed a defense group and got wiped out (as they surely would have due to all the Arab massacres). 2. Sure downplay rocket launchings and just call them fireworks (shows how you distort the murderous actions of the Arabs & never deal with the fact that they waged several wars of "extermination."

@ThinkerWriter Aggression is not always aggression. Sometimes it is rooted self-defense. One has to differentiate who started the aggression. Those who wage war engage in a gamble in which they either gain what they intended, gain nothing, or lose some or all of what they already have. Arabs have tried to wipe out the Jews several times & take their homes & land & yet Israel is faulted for being victorius?! The UN has never acted in Israel's best interests due to a majority of Arab countries.

@DonVoghano The wall is need to protect to Israeli citizens from terorrist attacks and has ben shown to be quite effective as it has reduced such attacks by 98%. The West Bank was part of Jordan, not so-called Palestine, There were Jewish communities there that were destroyed in 1929 and 1948 that were re-established & new settlements act as a buffer zone in case of future aggression. In both cases the Arabs are reaping what they sowed with their aggression (continued).

@DonVoghano And yet Israel has repeatedly offered land for peace - even they only have 1/10th of 1% of the land owned in the Middle East by Arabs. It's easy to condemn walls and settlements (and most condemnations were spearheaded or uttered by the majority of Arab nations) without a good look at why these steps were necessary (& they work for Israel). What is the converse of counter-attack? TO just sit by and let yourselves get annihilated? Yeah that really works for Israel!

Poor chap was probably abused by his father. Now gets even with his folks.

@DonVoghano The Soviet countries may have broken up by the Soviets are still a major military power and one which supports the Arabs over Israel. Allow me to not to care about people who want to destroy my people. Those Arabs who don't take such a view are treated as equals in Israel - can you imagine Arabs ever doing that for Jews?! The whole issue of the Palestinian Arab has been trumped up for political purposes and even Arafat and other Arab leaders have admitted this. Most were immigrants.