The intro for this series with the turning gears seems so perfect. Everything is happening according to plan, like clockwork, and will occur exactly when it should. How very comforting to know the ONE who is in absolute control!

I am always thankful for these lessons. Not only do they bring clarity, but also encouragement to search the scriptures, see that what it said is true and only confirms more and more that God is sovereign over the last days, just as every day before and after. Maranatha!

Spring feasts where all fulfilled in his first coming, and the fall feasts will be fulfilled in his second coming.

Matthew 24;22“If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. Do we know with how many day's it"s gonna be shortened NO that's why the exact day is not known.except The Father

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Thank you for addressing this. I have always been confused about these different days and just resigned myself to being ready no matter what.

@easttexan2933

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Glory for the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The only one that is worthy is you oh lord. For you are the most pure. Reading the scriptures is like a breathe of fresh air that no mere man can give nor any earthly pleasure. Amen 🙏

@loweeization

10 ай бұрын

For sure. The scriptures are a breath of fresh air. Thanks for saying my feelings too.

@Leuthen57

10 ай бұрын

@@loweeization 🙏 ❤️

You all can figure out all the days you want. I don't count day's, I just know the return of the Messiah is coming very soon. I'm 66 years old and just might live to see it. Love you all MARANATHA

@onezapmariner.9943

10 ай бұрын

I'm few years younger. I hope to see that day. Nothing Scriptural.we may miss it completely . Praise God anyway. May we endure to the end.

@easttexan2933

5 ай бұрын

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Let's call it the FIRST RESURRECTION vs the rapture.

@preppingforprophecy7680

10 ай бұрын

The best biblical term to use is gathering... This term is used in two of the four rapture scriptures.. it is also used in Rev chapter 7; but most importantly this is the term used in dozen of places in the 'old testament', another term that ideally should be done away with.... Once one realizes that gather and gathering are the original biblical terms then one can find 'rapture' prophecy in a dozen places in the OT

@wjdyr6261

10 ай бұрын

There are only 2 resurrections, so they should only be called the 1st resurrection and the 2d resurrection. Pre-trib believers intentionally confuse people by separating the 1st resurrection from the catching away of the saints

@garypickering7981

10 ай бұрын

Let's not

@mikebremer3456

10 ай бұрын

Mathew 24:33 "Even so, when you see ALL these things, you know that it is near, right at the door".

@squirreljones3595

10 ай бұрын

The church rapture is at judgement day John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth There's a thousand years after the first resurrection Revelation 21 shows no more days Jesus is truth keep the faith

It's called "The Revelation" for a reason and it comes from the one who knows; the Father. Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which "God" gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

@robertvann7349

10 ай бұрын

If you believe the Trinity your decieved. Why no mention of the OMNISCIENCE HOLY SPIRIT not knowing if in fact God the Father is not the Holy Spirit. Joel will not tell you to read Matthew 1:18 and 20 that teaches the Holy Spirit made Mary pregnant and fathered the baby Jesus. Mary you are with child of the HOLY GHOST, that which is concieved in you is of the Holy Ghost. You better quit with the Trinity crap. Jesus said my Father is greater than I. Well if Jesus is God the Son and he suffered how is the Father greater than himself? Jesus can't be omniscience and non omniscience, that is A=B impossible contradiction God's law of contradiction A Jesus is omniscience and knows day and hour = B Jesus is non omniscience and doesn't know the day or hour. God invented logic science not men. Joel has no clue how to plug data into A=B impossible contradiction to learn what Jesus can't be. A Jesus was a pacifist and said thou shalt not kill = B Jesus was a non-pacifist that said thou shalt kill Friend please don't fight this equation and say God can be a contradiction. ISAIAH says Jesus did no violence look it up. He was a pacifist, lets plug data into A=B impossible contradiction A Jesus is PRINCE OF PEACE a pacifist to avoid contradiction = B Jesus is PRINCE OF NON-PEACE a non-pacifist This is A=B A war is just B non war is just This is A=B A isn't=to B EITHER A war is just OR B non war is just Not both to avoid A=B impossible contradiction in God's law. Logically if A war is just then to avoid A=B impossible contradiction non war would be UNJUST. Joel won't teach you logic science 101 Any doctrine that is A=B is false doctrine A Joel a liar is saved B Joel a non liar is saved This is A=B impossible contradiction A liars are damned B non liars are saved Now logically A Joel a non-pacifist that kills his enemy is saved B Me a pacifist that doesn't kill his enemy is saved This is A=B impossible contradiction no way is both Joel and me saved. Your so decieved dude. You should blow this false teacher off. Until he learns to plug data into A=B impossible contradiction and A isn't=to B objective absolutely true logic the law of non-contradiction. Peace out non pacifist heading for hell.😍😎👍❤

I like your personality...and your sarcasm Joel. I have that personality traits as well.😂 Maranotha 🙏

I understand the passion for getting the specifics of the Resurrection right when reading Scripture. In 2 Tim 2:17-18 we see Paul worried about it as well, so much so that he said an incorrect understanding of the Resurrection has the potential to “destroy the faith of some.” Every follower of Christ should be deeply concerned for the precious faith of our brethren, so we should model Paul’s example of contending with this issue until that great Day rather than sidelining a conversation in the spirit of “unity”. Paul says this truth matters. Yes, let’s do it in love, but we must help diffuse this idea of a pretrib rapture. Thanks for helping the body do just that Joel. Your work has been a tremendous blessing!!

@RealDefinitionsMatter

10 ай бұрын

Good points, though I will add... The Truth, no matter how lovingly delivered is very frequently received as hateful to those not wanting to hear it! This is particularly true when challenging the pretribulational stance. The vitriol that comes is baffling.

@RachelNichols-writer

10 ай бұрын

The Apostles continually preached about the hope of the Resurrection. Not the Rapture.

@hyeminkwun9523

10 ай бұрын

Catechism #675 and 677 state that, before the second coming of Christ, the Church MUST follow Her Lord to Calvary, Death, and Resurrection for purification and renewal of the Church and world. The fulfillment of this Dogma is here, as we are now living through the prophesied events in 2 Thes 2:1-12 and the mystery of the iniquity (2 Thes 2:7) -- that's why we have had two popes (one True -- Benedict XVI; and the other false, as seen in the vision of Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich and prophesied by St. Francis of Assisi, non-canonically elected and destroyer), and great apostasy (2 Thes 2:3) in the Church. With the passing of Benedict XVI, the restrainer, Katechon, has been removed and, therefore, the antichrist will soon appear in public (2 Thes 2:7-8), who will be the head of the 1 world religion, followed by schism after the denial of real presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist by a false pope, banning of the daily Sacrifice of the Mass (Daniel 12:11), abomination of desolation (Matt 24:15), and fiercest persecutions of the Church (Rev 12:17, 13:10) for 3.5 years (Daniel 12:11-12, Rev 12:14). But God will protect His Church as promised in Matt 16:18, "the gates of Hell shall not prevail against Her" and His faithful remnant (Ps 91). All prophecies of the end times will be fulfilled as written in our generation. We are the generation specially chosen by God, from the beginning of the creation, to follow in the footsteps of Our Lord to Calvary, Immolation, and Resurrection, for the Praise and Glory of His Name. Let us, therefore, be prepared spiritually for the coming events by praying to God for the graces we need, so that we may fulfill whatever tasks given to us in a perfect manner for His Glory. Let us not fear, but face the coming events in Peace, for He will never leave, nor forsake His faithful, and His grace will be sufficient for us to fulfill the task perfectly (2 Cor 12:9) and remain faithful to the end (Rev 2:10). Amen!

@easttexan2933

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The phrase 'no one knows the day or the hour' is based on ancient Hebrew verbage which was commonly used concerning Yom Teruah (the Feast of Trumpets), which was announced upon the VISUAL sighting of the new moon of the seventh month in ancient Israel. Because the announcement required an actual visual sighting, it was said that no one knew the day or the hour. Fun fact. And as Paul said concerning feasts, 'these are a shadow of things to come, AND the body of Messiah. This 'but the body is of Messiah'stuff is a twisting and mistranslation. 😉💜🙏. The greek word 'kai' is used in the bible about as often to say 'and' as it is for 'but'. And the 'is of' in that sentence is put in italics because it's added to the text. We can see that we may not know the day or the hour, but as the spring feasts, we have a hint here as to the time of year.

@Brii.Z

10 ай бұрын

Also, the know man knows the day or hour people neglect to read the verse before it. It's about Heaven and earth passing away, that happens at the end of the millennial reign after the 1000 years. It has nothing to do with the rapture. Revelation 3:3 tells us that if we do not watch we won't see him coming and he will come as a thief. The flipside of that means if we do watch we will see him coming.

@cognitiveimpact5929

10 ай бұрын

Unlike our modern engagements, being betrothed during this time basically meant you were married, only you had not yet consummated the marriage. So after they drank the wine and signed the Ketubah, the groom would return to his father’s house and would work to build an addition onto it, preparing a home for his bride. He would continue to work, sometimes for over a year, until the day when his father approved the work and gave him permission to go and bring back his bride. So the bridegroom would go for the bride, who was waiting expectantly, not knowing when he would arrive. He would bring her back to his father’s house where they would enjoy a feast lasting up to seven days

@easttexan2933

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The Spirit and the Bride say, 'Come, LORD JESUS'!

@YehovaSapavovt.HolyOneOfIsraeL

10 ай бұрын

HIS Name Is “YEHOVA SAPAVOVT:” HIS ELoHIM The Most HigH Our Mighty Creator: Glory To The Alpha And Omega: Glory In The Highest Our ELoHIM And Savior: Glory To The Lion Of Judah: Praise YAH, YEHOVA, HalleluYAH: The Wise Will See YOUR NAME; ~ Micah 6:9 Be Proud Of HIS Holy Name: ~ Psalm 105:3 Because He Has Affection For ME, I Will Rescue Him. I Will Protect Him Because He Knows MY NAME. ~ Psalm 91:14 HIS NOT: lord god mod jesus mesus: The Voice Of The Most HigH Calls The City And The Wise Will See YOUR NAME; " Pay Attention To The Rod And Who Prepare. “ Micah 6:9 “You Must Not Take Up The Name Of YEHOVA Your EloHIM In A Worthless Way, For YEHOVA Will Not Leave Unpunished The One Who Takes Up HIS Name In A Worthless Way.” ~ Exodus 20:7 I Have Been "YEHOVA" Your CreatoR Ever Since The Land Of Egypt; You Know No CreatoR But ME, And No SavioR Exists Besides ME. ~ Hosea 13:4 There Is No One Who Calls YOUR NAME; To Wake Up And Find Strength In YOU. ~ Isaiah 64:7 YEHOVA Is The Same Forever: ELOHIM NAME Can’t Translated: >Names Never Translate. Your Name Is The Same In Every Language In The World.

Thank you Maranatha!

New here. I like the way you lecture. Makes one think and solidify their eschatological position

Good video. Great job Joel.

Well done my brother - I've circled around each of these - still "waiting"...

The Hebrews were in Egypt when the Ten Plagues occurred. But the Lord spared them. Why can't He do the same with the Seven Bowls of His wrath?

I'd use the Hebrew Lunar Calendar... Not Gregorian. Days are literal Days, and Months are Moons (and the first day of each month is not known until it is observed by two witnesses. A yesr could be 12 lunar Moons (Months) or 14 if there is a Leap Year with an Adair Bet

There's no blessed hope and wedding in heaven unless you are Pre-Tribulation. I have done over 700 videos about the Pre-Tribulation rapture, and I am looking up for the Lord Jesus to snatch me up in the clouds in my glorified body. Rapture and then Daniel's 70th week. Maranatha.

@kenklein9228

8 ай бұрын

The blessed hope is NOT the pre trib rapture. I am looking up also, knowing that my redemption "is near". Before that, we'll be going through the Great Tribulation.

@easttexan2933

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Matthew 24 Verse 35, comes right before 36, no man knows the day or hour when the earth and heavens pass away, when God creates new Heaven and New Earth. Also we are to keep watch so our house is not broken up,

@WalkingbytheSpiritAlways

8 ай бұрын

You got it. Then Matthew 24:37-44 talks about the pre-Tribulation rapture just like Matthew 25:1-13.

According to the OT time lines the number of days used were exact to the day. So the numbers used in these last days are exact as well, which doesn't mean we would know the day or the hour when Christ Jesus will return, but I do believe we will know what month that it will happen.

Great teaching as always! Really makes you think. Not to throw another curve ball into the equation but I always figured that the sun and moon going dark actually will take place in the heavens and that will affect how days are calculated, according to genesis they are used for dates and seasons. I believe though that if we are alive that long trough all the persecution we as believers will have bigger problems to contend with

1260 days is quite precise. That the Bible uses idioms is no argument that 1260 days is not 1260 days. This is the argument that amillinnialist use to say that the thousand year millennial reign is not literally 1000 years but merely “a long period of time.” In the parable of the ten virgins, the Bridegroom’s coming was delayed. If the Bridegroom’s coming could be delayed, then we cannot know the day or hour of the Bridegroom’s coming. Now one could argue that the “delay” in the parable is inserted merely to make the point that we should super prepared for His coming, ie, that our lamps _and_ vessels need to be filled with oil. Yet in the parable, the Bridegroom’s coming was delayed. Maranatha!

@safequeenking2884

10 ай бұрын

1260 IS 1260 DAYS thats why he made it a point to say 1260 days 42 months and 3 1/2 years. This is a known fact. Also a day is a 1000 years to Jesus. That is why he said he would return on the 6th day. Your trying to twist the word of God.

@BobbyU808

10 ай бұрын

@@safequeenking2884 I did not disagree with any of his conclusions. In fact, I agree with his views on the “rapture” vis-a-vis the tribulation. I was merely critiquing his reasoning. And yes, Peter does say, in context of Christ’s return, that a thousand years to man is as a day to God, which means that Christ’s return will mark the advent of the seventh day, aka the millennial reign of Christ in which we who endure to the end shall rule and reign with Christ for one thousand years on earth. The advent of the first five days was marked by the appearance of men of God - the first day by Adam, the second day by Noah, the third day by Abraham, the fourth day by David and the fifth day by Christ. The “last days,” days five and six, constitute the church age. The advent of the seventh day will be marked by the appearance of not the Lamb of God but the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords who will come to rule the nations with a rod of iron and to tread the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Now, if a thousand years is as a day to God, then perhaps the “day of the lord” refers to the seventh day, or the last 1000 years, which would explain some of the _seeming_ scriptural contradictions regarding the same. Let the God be found true and all men liars. Maranatha!

post tribulation is clear in revelation . He says : when you see these things look up because your redemption draws near ! so obviously have to see the things happen ? I think it's post tribulation and pre wrath . Christians are persecuted every Day outside of the West , Murdered , everyday . and the west think they will escape persecution ? It bothers me , if I'm saved , the only thing that is stopping me from being with the LORD JESUS CHRIST is this body of flesh , ifil raptured or martyrd what difference does it make , I'm going home , isn't that already more than I deserve. and JESUS CHRIST did it all ! What I think is dangerous is if it is post trib ,pre wrath . a lot of people are going to be very very confused .. it might even cause a falling away . I am a sinner who by the Grace of GOD, through faith in the life Death and Resurrection in JESUS CHRIST has been saved . My life is NOTHING , no-one knows when ,His words ! That's enough for me .

@YehovaSapavovt.HolyOneOfIsraeL

10 ай бұрын

HIS Name Is “YEHOVA SAPAVOVT:” HIS ELoHIM The Most HigH Our Mighty Creator: Glory To The Alpha And Omega: Glory In The Highest Our ELoHIM And Savior: Glory To The Lion Of Judah: Praise YAH, YEHOVA, HalleluYAH: The Wise Will See YOUR NAME; ~ Micah 6:9 Be Proud Of HIS Holy Name: ~ Psalm 105:3 Because He Has Affection For ME, I Will Rescue Him. I Will Protect Him Because He Knows MY NAME. ~ Psalm 91:14 HIS NOT: lord god mod jesus mesus: The Voice Of The Most HigH Calls The City And The Wise Will See YOUR NAME; " Pay Attention To The Rod And Who Prepare. “ Micah 6:9 “You Must Not Take Up The Name Of YEHOVA Your EloHIM In A Worthless Way, For YEHOVA Will Not Leave Unpunished The One Who Takes Up HIS Name In A Worthless Way.” ~ Exodus 20:7 I Have Been "YEHOVA" Your CreatoR Ever Since The Land Of Egypt; You Know No CreatoR But ME, And No SavioR Exists Besides ME. ~ Hosea 13:4 There Is No One Who Calls YOUR NAME; To Wake Up And Find Strength In YOU. ~ Isaiah 64:7 YEHOVA Is The Same Forever: ELOHIM NAME Can’t Translated: >Names Never Translate. Your Name Is The Same In Every Language In The World.

@squirreljones3595

10 ай бұрын

Matthew 24 36 Jesus says no man knows the day except the Father John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth Jesus doesn't make mistakes Jesus is taking about two resurrections Revelation 20 shows two resurrections Revelation 21 shows no more days The church rapture is at judgement day Jesus is truth keep the faith

Another thing to throw into the mix is that Jesus prophesied that those days will be cut short. Steve Moutria has an interesting take on that.

We may not know the exact time of His Return but Jesus said the prophecies He set before us in especially Matthew 24 & 25 are to be as leaves seen on a fig tree that reveal the season unfolding before us as in a degree of Knowing!

As for not knowing the “day or the hour”, I think many miss the point that Jesus was making in Matthew 24. Look at Revelation 3:3 and pay close attention to what Jesus is saying: Revelation 3:3, “Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. IF therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.” This statement by Jesus uses the exact same language in the verses that many use to state that we can never know (Matt. 24:36; 25:13; Mark 13:32) and reveals something that is very significant and profound: IF we do not watch He WILL come upon us as a thief and we WILL NOT know what hour He will come upon us. If this verse is true, then the inverse must also be true: If we DO watch, He WILL NOT come upon us as a thief, and we WILL know. Jesus does *not* say anywhere in Matthew 24 or elsewhere that we cannot know or will never know. Jesus is merely saying, in the present tense per the Greek, that we do not know *right now* when He will return. A few verses later in Matthew 24:42 Jesus tells us to WATCH for the signs that He just gave us. Why watch? Watch so that we CAN KNOW, because today we do not know the day or hour of His return. His entire point was that it was a BAD THING to not know, which He repeated again in Revelation 3:3, and which the Apostle Paul reiterates for us in his epistle to the church in Thessalonica saying “you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief … Therefore let us not sleep, as others [do], but let us watch …” (1 Thess 5:4-6).

I never realized how complicated the calculations are for this… I always assumed the Tribulation would be seven literal years, beginning with the Antichrist's abomination of desolation and ending with the Second Coming of Jesus. All of this mathematical stuff confuses the heck out of me. I'm terrible with math.

@seventhousand

8 ай бұрын

Actually the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not-in the holy place which is the same as 2nd Thess 2 sitting in the temple of God-the man of sin son of perdition Satan appearing as God/Christ and doing miracles tempting the world he is Christ returned which happens on the sixth trumpet in the midst of the week-middle of the tribulation/hour of temptation. The tribulation starts when Satan and his angels/locusts are cast out of heaven to earth on the woe of the fifth trumpet Rev. chapters 9 & 12, which is when the one world Government/nwo/covenant with many emerges rises Rev. 13 that first beast there with Daniel chapter 7 fourth beast happens and is ran-controlled by them 10 of Satan's angel horn kings under Satan authority-command. That first beast in Rev. 13 Satan's multi headed government meaning Satan's one world government/nwo the covenant with many that rises from the sea-sea of people which happens right after Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven to earth the one word government comes into full. The one world governmental system/nwo does not will not come into full-fully emerge from the sea-sea of people until after Satan and his locusts/angels are cast out of heaven to earth, their going to be an army of deception. Then a while after the one world governmental system gets going one of the heads will be wounded to death, it isn't the false prophet Satan himself that is wounded-takes a hit but part of his one world government/the first beast. The Dragon/Satan gave him-the first beast it's power and seat, the power for it to sit over the whole world-the one world government/nwo... The deadly wound to the first beast the one world government/nwo Rev. 16 the fifth angel pours out his vial on the seat of the beast which is holding Satan back to be revealed-it causes Satan to rise up, from/above the earth and then will appear and stand/sit in the holy land the temple of God clamming he is God/Christ and doing miracles and then being worshiped as Christ-the abomination of desolation Christ also warned us of in Matthew 24 and the falling away becoming desolate of the true Christ.The deadly wound will be healed because the world will believe he-Satan is Christ returned, the hour of temptation. Satan the dragon is the second beast later in Rev. 13, being deceived by Satan that he is Christ and worshiping him is the mark of the beast, as written Satan is beautiful looking and a supernatural entity... In Matthew 24 Christ shortened the tribulation for His elect, Christ shortened those days-those tribulation days, He shortened Daniels time line so the tribulation is no longer for seven years...As we read in Rev. 12 Satan is mad because his time is short, Christ shortened it.. The seventh trumpet ends the tribulation, all that have the mark of the beast need to repent of it before it sounds, Christ returns after that on the trump of God the last trump..

12,4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Your cool brother. I agreed with you before. I heard you.

There are two days of the coming... one to Mount Sinai and one is the entrance into Jerusalem, so with travel time it could account for the extra days

"For the sake of the elect those days will be shortened" ?? another major variable to add to the equation

Proving the exact day could be counted or not really doesn't matter because Christ said no one knows the day or the hour and if you take him at his word than its settled no one knows! However why one choose pre wrath or post tribulation is the more interesting question. Personally I lean toward pre wrath however not dogmatic about either .

I'd be happy to just know with certainty when the approximate 3.5 year period begins. Beyond that, I don't need to know the exact day.

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

The Two Prophet's come After the Temple is Rebuilt on Temple Mount to measure the Temple and to Bear their Testimony for 3 and a Half Year's Tormenting the Nation's and to be Killed and Raised from the Dead and Ascend into the Cloud's of Heaven

@MariaGomez-yr1zw

10 ай бұрын

The middle of the 7 years starts when the Man of Sin (the Antichrist) enters the temple and deflies it, sitting in the temple as if he was God, etc . That's when Jacob's trouble, aka the great tribulation, will begin.

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

@@MariaGomez-yr1zw actually I believe it Starts well before that ! As Israel will Sign the Covenant with Many Surrounding Nation's of Islam giving Israel Permission to Build the Temple on Temple Mount so Islam can Break the Covenant and Invade Israel to Stop the Sacrifices and take over the Temple and to Kill the Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ, so it will most likely start when Israel Sings the Covenant with Many Surrounding Nation's ! Yes it will be well on it's way when the Man of Sin the Son of Perdition is Revealed Sitting in the Temple Showing Himself that he is God, In his own Time. 2 Thessalonians 2:6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. His own Appointed Time, Appointed By God and Jesus Christ. God Bless you Sister in Jesus Christ

@MariaGomez-yr1zw

10 ай бұрын

That happens 3 1/2 years after Israel makes an agreement/pact with several Middle Eastern countries in which the Antichrist is a part of.

45days to count according to Daniel chapter 12,,11-12

Not the abomination of desolation, Joel. The signing of the peace treaty. And we go by the Hebrew calendar!

Is it possible that there is 1290 days between when the sacrifices are abolished and then the AOD is set up? To be clear, not from AOD to the return of Jesus being 1290 days. Could that be what 12:11 is saying?

We know the enemy would seek to change the times and seasons, so 365 day year count is out. The 3.5 year measurement / 1260 day count is repeated in several references and refers to the same period of time, 1260 days: reign of AC, woman fleeing to wilderness, ministry of two witnesses, last half of Daniel’s 70th week. No where is this measurement cut short. All these descriptions will be fulfilled completely. No man can know the day or the hour because Yom Teruah requires sighting of the moon, but on THAT day it will be a day of darkness and gloominess and the moon will not fiver her light, likely because of haze/overcast/particulate etc. but the Feast must be fulfilled and there is no other claimed scenario besides the Day of the Lord, the Last Day, the Resurrection and Rapture that anyone argues to fulfill it. So if it is not THAT Day, how does anyone propose that Yom Teruah be fulfilled? What was it given to us for??? Study all the mentions of trumpets and you will see the pattern. Particularly the first mention of the word Trumpet was with Moses at Mount Sinai when the Lord came down to meet Israel, after two days, on the 3rd, they were to come up to the Mount as He came down.

How does it work the part - that people writing books and monetising Christians, the disciples were told to rely on the Lord for meet their needs others encourage payment to get more information on KZread. I’m curious about this. So many people monetising Christian’s. Is not God the same yesterday, today and forever.

Here’s something to think about. Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour (“know” Gk: eidò-be aware, behold, consider, perceive), not even the angels, but the Father only-and at the time he said it, it was true; HOWEVER, John did “see” the Day of the Lord, recorded in Revelation, so what’s up with that??? 😇 BTW-At the very end of Daniel 12 the angel says to Daniel in 12:13 “But you, go your way till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the END OF THE DAYS” (which would be at the 1,335 days mentioned in the previous verse). So then, since the “dead in Christ shall rise first” yet another proof of post-trib rapture. Also interesting, if the “strengthening of the covenant” occurs at COP28 with the signing on 12/12/23, if we add 1,260 days for the first half of the tribulation, and 1,335 days for the second half, then Jesus returns the day after my birthday on January 19th, 2031!!! Boom. Don’t forget where you heard it first! 🤣

Joel, about 3 years ago Dalton put out a video called DANIEL'S 2,300 DAYS, It was part of the book of revelation series- he goes over in detail the days and timing and one of the things he teaches is that from the time of the sacrifices beginning to the time that the temple will be cleansed will be 2,300 days. PLEASE PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Daltons teaching contradicts what you're teaching. Just wanting clarification on this. Thank you.

Wall up to heaven. City next to a mountain can have a wall that goes around the city and up and around the top of the mountain. I have been to a place that they did that in Turkey around 2000 yrs ago. I think we should look at this from out side of the box. We know that the day of return is the same day and that should be the starting point. Count backwards on each one of these. For example 1335 days is the start of waiting (maybe that is the first time heaven is seen by a telescope, coming our way to earth), 1290 days first time regular sacrifice is abolished, and 30 days later . Anyway each time frame could be talking about something that takes months to happen. I believe the word is correct on each account of the days.

One could argue knowing the exact day and hour is not, and cannot be known, because it's not all that important for us to know that in the first place. What's important is to know when Jesus return is imminent, or that it is "near," or "right at the door," as is indicated in Mathew 24: 32-33. We're to "watch" so when we see all the key signs that we are to watch for have been witnessed/occurred, we are "ready." At that point, we "know" his 2nd appearance to bring us salvation, that we have been patently waiting for, and have hoped for, is imminent, or "right at the door." The important thing is to know when the 2nd coming is imminent, or very near, in order to be ready for it. This is why "date setting" is stupid. See also Luke 21:29-36. "The parable of the fig tree," for emphasis.

Consider if Yeshua would return at 6:23 AM at sunrise in Jerusalem on 15 Sep 2023… In the US Eastern time would be 7 hours behind approximately 11:23 PM on 14 Sep 2023…. Many times across 2 days…

I cant help thinking that none of the rapture ideas even matters, because the odds are that going through the tribulation, the vast majority of of us will be killed. If we go through the wrath or not, there is nothing we can do, we are just along for the ride. If Jesus was saying we cannot know or that we should recognize the soon to be spring when the olive tree buds - what does it matter ? If you are alive when Christ returns and meet him in the air or are killed before, does it matter ?

Is it true in Israel that when the sun down it's the next day? So they gotta remember that.

The birds fly in mid heaven

Please make sense of 2 Thessalonians chapter 2

Daniel chapter 12,7 says time times and half plus the time to shatter the saints which=1332 then 3 1/2 days dead=1335which is the last day

No one knew the hour and day when JESUS said it. No one on earth now knows. We probably will have a hard time keeping track of time during the second half of the 70th Week, due to all that happens. But Jesus did say that we can know his coming is near when we see "all these things." And the hour and day statement is in the context of his second coming. He also said, "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near." So we don't know now, and we probably won't know exactly when during the "great tribulation" period until we see the things that Jesus said would reveal it is near.

Matt 24,36 Jesus is pointing to the Feast of trumpets, aka Yom HaKeseh. The hidden day or the day of hiding. This day is also known as the day of the bridegroom. In ancient gallilean weddings only the father of the bridegroom knows when he will send his son to take his bride home. Feast of trumpets is held on a new moon which was not easy to exactly determine in ancient times.

Very exciting topic in the bible "no one knows that day and the hour." There are really quite a few interpretations on this. My views on the verses 12 and 13 from the book of Daniel chapter 12 is: In Daniel chapter 12 Verse 11 talks about 1290 days... I think it refers to the end of the antichrist time frame but he will be not destroy yet at this day because at this day the Lord will not return yet...also, it can be refer to the end of the second day...we know that Jesus was death for two days and He resurrected on the third day that means He will return on the third day and not on the second day (if we take that statement from the new testament which says 1 day in God terms equal 1000 earthly years)...The verse 12 continues and talks about 1335 days which is 45 days later from the end of the antichrist power. it says "blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of 1335 days."...What I have noticed here and I was long time thinking and meditating on this is that this verse can refer to the beginning of the third day when Jesus was resurrected or in other word the beginning of the 1000 years of millennium. So, from 1335 days onwards the Lord can return at anytime because we entered into the resurrection day or the third day...and here can fit perfectly that verse when Jesus said no one knows that day and the hour...from here this verse became activated because we will know that His return is very very near actually just days away we reached that year, we reached that season and we reached the 1335 days but we don't know that day and hour it can be any day and any hour ...and why I think is going to be the beginning of the millennium is because the words of " Blessed is who..." it is very strong here in this context it can expressing something very very important major event or major change in the biblical time line it can refer to the beginning of the third day beginning of the millennium...that is indeed true that no one knows that day and the hour but we will do know the exact year and season..

Curious. Muslims say that Jesus cannot be God because He says that "No one knows the day or the hour, not even the Son, but only the Father." And they have a valid argument. They believe this. So, what would I say to a Muslim about this?

You forgot to mention that Jesus says that he’s going to cut that time short so that unless no flesh would be saved. So we’re given the appointed times but Jesus is going it short. So there is no way of knowing. We will only know the window or season as you said.

@kenklein9228

10 ай бұрын

Exactly!

I truly believe there is no pre trib rapture people are not going to have their lamps oil to many Christians I am afraid aren’t being taught deep learning I myself have been learning more from people like you not so much church 😢

In m opinion, Yahushua's return will be on a Sabbath. Now which Sabbath day? That I don't know. What month? I don't know either. Also the hour I do not know. I believe only when the Anti-christ has stood on a holy place that is where we start counting 1,260 (least) to 1,335 (at most) fo King Yahushua's return. Still it is gonna be a post-tribulation not pre-tribulation.

Part of the abomination of desolation is when Israel is surrounded. So nobody knows. That being said we’re not gonna know what day.

Joel and others, the Hebrew (Lunar) biblical-calendar you referenced here__ is the extra month there not for a single purpose? And that year stays 360-days... this month then not extra but the same month, revised for the ripening of the barley-harvest; alone. If the spring-harvest does not come in by Mar22, then this revised month is inserted; to accommodate the harvest.

Is Dalton Thomas planning on teaching again?

Jesus said only the father knows, not the Son of Man. I think he meant Jesus in his earthly form was not going to reveal that date and it's not for us to know ahead of time.Imagine if he disclosed the date, think about it.So he gave us indicators of the time of his second coming like a sun dial when the signs line up we will know it is upon us.

Even the scriptureual verse not until after the tribulation is confusing for churchyanity 😅

But a time window of 75 days is better than nothing, isn't it? Would Jesus than have emphazised, that he would come like a thief in the night? And that he would come, when we would not expect it?

@kenklein9228

8 ай бұрын

Yes. Christ's point was that as "these things begin to happen", we'll know that the time is getting near. He says "lift your heads and look up.....", meaning to press in and allow God to form a Christ like character in us so that we'll be clearly hearing from the Holy Spirit. The world will be caught unawares, and so will lukewarm Christians, despite the difficult times. Christ doesn't want us to be caught unawares.

I think that the fact that 42 months equal 1260 days equal 3 1/2 years mean that the years and months used in the Bible are 360-day years and 30-day months: 30x42=1260 (days in 42 months) 360x3=1080 (days in 3 years) 360÷2=180 (dys in 1 year) 1080+180=1260 (days in 3 1/2 years) Now, what day EXACTLY Jesus returns.... I don't think we can be DOGMATIC about it and insult each other, cause dividion, etc Really, it's not worth it. Maranatha! Let's unite around that word!.

You are correct to suggest that 1260 days are just and expression, an idiom. It could also be that when Jesus says "no one knows the day or the hour", is also an expression. It seems increasingly clear that most of prophecy is only knowable after the even has occurred. You can look back and make sense of it, but you cannot look forward and make sense of it, except perhaps in broad outline. I wonder if it would not be more useful to be trying to figure out if you should shoot the agents of anti-Christ as they come through the door to cut your head off (perhaps thats an expression also ?) or just go quietly...Im in the shoot camp because of Luke 22:36-37 (but when Jesus says "buy a sword", maybe thats an expression). Or perhaps weather you resist or comply is optional or maybe the HS will inform you when your time comes

One thought on Yeshua not knowing the day or hour is the Book of Revelation ► 🖌 Revelation 1:1 Revelation Chapter 1 The Revelation of Jesus the Messiah to the Seven Churches This is the revelation of Jesus the Messiah, which God gave him to show his servants the things that must happen soon. He made it known by sending his messenger to his servant John… ► So, it is Jesus Yeshua who gave John the entire Book of Revelation, so, I think he knew when he was to come back from after his ascension I guess😉

The different days esp. in Daniel are a mystery. Does it matter NO! Be ready whenever the rapture/res is. Its definitely not pre trib, but after that people are just guessing. Its Gods appointed time! NO One knows when that will be. It could be between the 6th and 7th seal, it could be after the 4th trumpet[ before the 3 "Woes"], it could be at the last 7th trumpet, after the 3 angles give Gods final proclamations to the world. before the bowls of GODS WRATH.... a time when no one will repent shaking their fists at God...as Jesus said when the LAST person [written in the book of life] comes to be saved, THEN the end will come, and perhaps THEN the rapture / Res. could[?] happen, seemingly before the bowl judgement's. And how close that is to end of the 70th week of trouble is anyone's guess. Again no one really knows the timing of the 21 judgement's either, except for maybe the first seal when the AC begins the 70th week by confirming[perhaps he and several others] some sort of covenant between Israel and many Nations. All we know is that he will be revealed near the midpoint of the 7days [years]. And 2 Thes 2 says very clearly that the "gathering" [rapture] will NOT happen until the man of sin [the AC] is "revealed", so i suppose anytime after the mid point.

Mat 24::36 refers to His 2.coming after THAT Tribulation, which is the 3 1/2 year Great Tribulation (Mat 24:29-31). The time of the Great Tribulation is given in Daniel and Revelation, it is the time of the Antichrist to persecute the Saints (Dan 7:25; 12:7). This time is fixed with an oath of the angel in Dan 12:7, a time, times and half (a time). How many days are that? Rev 12:6+14 gives us the answer, 1260 days. But this is a biblical time, we have to convert it into our 365 days.

@squirreljones3595

10 ай бұрын

The church rapture is at judgement day John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth Revelation 21 shows no more days

@mikehaney6922

10 ай бұрын

Like you said the bible is written with a 360 day lunar calendar, i'm not sure what good it would do to convert it to our modern calendar. Why?

The dispensational insistence upon a strictly literal understanding of ALL end of the age scripture is maddening. They insist upon it because without it, they can't support dispensational nonsense.

Seems that the exact day has some problems right off the bat based just on Matthew 24:21-22 For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. Then there is the Holy day that I have been taught the literal name is No one knows the day. This unless I am wrong the date was based on when 2 priests could tell this date for when the New Moon rises and that this is important as given that the months are based on a lunar calendar some years are longer or shorter than other years and that is based on when this day is recognized. Then there is Daniel 12:11-12 that speaks on 1290 in verse 11 but verse 12 adds 45 more days. From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! Daniel 12:11‭-‬12 I dropped this in at 5 minutes 43 seconds so I can see how far off I am .

And then of course, there is Matthew 24:22..."And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened." (NKJV). We don't know by how long the events of the second half of Daniel's 70th Week will be "shortened" prior to the rapture of the Church and the Second Coming of Christ (the Day of the Lord's Wrath). And we don't know for sure if the Day of the Lord is one standard day or some other translation of "day". All we know for sure is that we will be raptured away immediately before the pouring of the 7 bowls (vials) of the Lords' Wrath. Matthew 24:22 alone destroys the pre-trib assertion that we can know the day AND the hour, just by counting the "days" from the day of abomination that leads to desolation. One thing that I am not sure of is the sounding of the last Trumpet. Does it refer to the last Trumpet of the 7 Trumpet Judgements, after the 7 Seals, or does it refer to the last Trumpet of the Feast of Trumpets??? Can anyone provide any insight? I'm a "pre-wrather" myself.

We may not know the day nor the hour, but we can know the year (5881 AM), season (Spring), and month (Abib) in accordance with the Enochian calendar re-discovered among the Dead Sea Scrolls. #QuestionEverything

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

6 ? 7 the number of Perfection, 8 a New Beginning, 7 Perfecting the Saint's, 8 After the Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ, The New Beginning ! Long Way to Go Still !

No man knows the day or the hour of the rapture. However, we can count the days to the Return. You can get there from two points in time. First, from the first seal being opened (Rev 6:1) and the Muslim Anti-Christ makes a 7 year peace treaty with Israel (beginning of Tribulation marked by the white horse). Or when the Muslim Anti-Christ breaks that peace treaty half way through and goes into the third temple and makes the Abomination of Desolation (mid-point of the Tribulation). You can count 1,260 days from the beginning to the mid-point. And then you can count another 1,260 days from the Abomination of Desolation. It's basic math. I know that most people don't like math today, and now it has become subjective to some. But people coming to Christ during the Tribulation aren't going to be concerned about counting days. They will just be struggling to keep from being beheaded day by day. Any time God gives a number it is usually literal (not allegorical). 3 days in the belly of the earth. 7 days of creation. 6,000 years of man before the 1,000 years of the Millennial Kingdom. The earth has a total of 7,000 years life span. Then God destroys it and creates a new one on the "8th day." Numerology is the study of the significance of various numbers in scripture. Numerology also indicates that the return of Jesus Christ is very near. Luke 12:54-56 Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don't know how to interpret this present time?

what i tell pretribbers is the resurrection cant occur until the last person is saved and joel 2 says when the sun and moon wont shine then whoever calls on the lord will be delivered

@troyzebulon6996

10 ай бұрын

They believe people will come to God after the rapture and during the tribulation

@Azamat421

10 ай бұрын

How do you know that

@squirreljones3595

10 ай бұрын

The church rapture is at judgement day John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth It's very simple if you don't have one Bible verse that shows or promised the thousand year reign of Jesus to the church, stop adding the church Jesus is truth keep the faith The saints that overcome the Mark of the beast have Bible verses that promise them white people and the thousand year reign of Jesus Revelation 7 14 Revelation 20 4

@troyzebulon6996

10 ай бұрын

@@Azamat421 my sister is a pre tribber and that is what her church teaches her They say the church is restraining the beast and after the tribulation many will realize they were left behind and will convert

@user-qb7lu5ny5r

9 ай бұрын

@troyzebulon6996 Hi, perhaps this could change your sister's mind. If she believes that God's word doesn't confuse people but instruct them to the right path she will be enlightened. I was a pre-tribber but the scriptures showed me the truth. Present her the following verses: 1 Cor 15:52 where it says that "the dead will be raised" and then 1st Thess 4 where it says that, "those who are alive will by no means precede those who are asleep."

1st of Tishri ‎א בְּתִשְׁרֵי is hidden in the first word of the Bible… Bereshit ‎בראשית

It is almost logical that is the day. E1 quotes that "nobody knows nothing" verse. I think since e1 knows that verse it would be poetic justice, irony that is the day! Remember Jesus "knew" what would be done to His Words. Seculars, most denominations. If that verse isn't taken out of context (Trib verse), I stick with Jude 14, 15.

✝️🇮🇱✝️Between Genesis 12:3 and Matthew 25:31-46 is God's ❤️ for Israel;🇮🇱✝️ our aid & support to Israel in return blesses us✝️🇮🇱✝️

In the end, the clock starts at the starting of the daily sacrifice for the third temple. We kniw the time of the 2 witnesses in the first half. We know the time after the abomination of desolation until the end of the antichrist. We don't know the time period between the death of the 2 witnesses and the abomination of desolation at this time. Personally, I believe these discrepancies account for the time between events. Like the resurrection and ascendance to heaven of the 2 witnesses and the abomination of desolation. I don't claim to know for certain but that is my thinking on it based on study. In the end all that matters is that He is coming and He told us what needs to happen before He will come. My understanding has changed as a result. Based on that I see no evidence of a pretribulational rapture. This is coming from someone that used to believe in the pretribulational rapture because that's what I was taught but when you study/read the actual passages it seems to be not the case. I would love to be wrong but I think we should prepare to live through it. Too many just assume they will be taken out before and do nothing to prepare. That I fear is what will cause the falling away.

WATCH AND PRAY, while ignoring those prophecy fanatics who recklessly outline the precise details and sequences of future events. ✔️

How come whenever someone is teaching on this topic they never bring up this verse? And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. It seems to me that Jesus is recognizing that his prophets have "decreed" a certain amount of days for the tribulation but he understands that those days will be cut short. At the time he doesn't know exactly how many days but he knows that the Father has it taken care of. No one will know the day or hour because that day and hour will be cut short! Am I missing something? Why would Jesus say "those days will be cut short" if there wasn't already an allotted amount of days given? On another note. Even if you knew exactly when to start counting and you knew exactly how many days to count you would lose count after the first month during the great tribulation. No one will care what day of the week it is after the Abomination of desolation. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. Matthew 24:21‭-‬22 ESV

Joel-Tim Cohen said in a recent interview with Janie DuVall that he gave you a copy of his book “The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea” identifying the AC as King Charles, but thinks you haven’t read it. Have you read his book or tried to reach out to him to discuss? Maybe you could do a special segment with him in studio? I’m familiar with your position, but Tim also has compelling evidence.

@dustinnoel8371

10 ай бұрын

Tim Cohen is wrong. The Bible clearly states in Daniel that the Antichrist does not come from Royalty. Which means no Kings, queens, Princes or princesses. The Bible also clearly states it will be a common man from the Turkey. Syria area of today who rises up very fast and takes the place of someone else who was supposed to get that spot by using deceit. It is in no way Kjng Charles. I’m still shocked someone like Tom Cohen would even come up with this. Seems to me he may just be trying to make a lot of money off of his book. He should know in Daniel that it says that the antichrist is not from Royalty.

@logiciskey7

10 ай бұрын

I found Tims videos very knowledgeable, but when he started mentioning aliens on Mars, and space, thats pushing it too far

@ww3659

10 ай бұрын

@@logiciskey7 Agreed. As with any teacher, glean what you can and try your best to remain objective.

Brother this teaching is far to deep for a pre tribulation believer to understand. Most who I deal with don’t even understand the the great tribulation is 3 1/2 years. Most of them seem to believe the Bible teaches a 7 year tribulation. We both know they take this from Daniel 9:26-27 but in no way does Daniel ever teach a 7 year tribulation. Neither does any Bible text or verse teach such a teaching. Now this is simple math. God Bless you Brother for continuing to expose this lie.

@RachelNichols-writer

10 ай бұрын

That has had me scratching my head. 42 months is not 7 years. Nor is 2300 days--whether you use the lunar or Gregorian calendar.

@mikehaney6922

10 ай бұрын

I think if you re read Dan 9:24-28 you will understand that the Angel is referring to a week of 7 years, instead of 7 lit. days.

@tilltheendministries403

10 ай бұрын

@@mikehaney6922 The point is never does it say that the whole 7 years is Tribulation.

@MariaGomez-yr1zw

10 ай бұрын

​@RachelNichols-writer 42 months is 3 1/2 years. I don't think he said it is 7 years

@tilltheendministries403

10 ай бұрын

@@MariaGomez-yr1zwthink you are looking at the reply to the wrong persons comment. Yes, 42 months is 3 1/2 years.

It should be called "the keep e1 dumbed down verse". Nobody knows nothing verse. Except the constellation Virgo filling up with comets. And woman giving birth on day of Feast of Trumpets. Focus THERE.

It seems that many prophecy teachers continue to say that no one can know the day and the hour that Jesus will return. They fail to read that passage correctly. Jesus speaking: Matthew 24: 35 KJV Heaven and earth "shall" pass away, but "my words shall not pass away." 36) But of "that day" ( what day?) the day that heaven and earth shall pass away) knoweth No Man, No Not The Angels In Heaven, But The Father Only. The Day That Heaven And Earth Shall Pass Away. Pre-tribers miss quote that passage relating it to the Rapture. Here we see that FAI STUDIOS is also miss representing this passage. This passage has nothing to do with the Rapture, Nor does it have anything to do with when Jesus will return. It is a statement by Jesus telling us that Heaven and earth shall pass away, and that it is a day that No One Knows But The Father God Alone. Not the angels, nor the Son, but the Father only. We find this same passage in : Mark 13:31-32 KJV, and also in Luke 21:33-34 KJV We must keep the scripture in context. No guess-ta-mations. It is clearly stated, obviously.

As soon as I saw the word rapture I knew i couldn't take you seriously , and i don't need to read a book by travis snow , the only book i and everyone else need to read is the Bible.

No one knows [that day]...(Mt 24:36) is grossly mistranslated. The Greek text reads, "no one has-been-beholding [that day]....", because "on that day there shall be no light... a unique day with no light, except at even-time" (Zec 14:6-7). Jeremiah also reports, "It is a day like none other, a time of Jacob's trouble" (Jer 30:7). These verses describe "The day of The Lord" (2Th 2:1-2), when Jesus will come to gather His Elect from out of the extremities of heaven and earth with a "Great Trumpet" (Mt 24:31, Mk 13:27), within "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), shortly before the present heavens and earth will be burned-up with intense heat (2Pet 3:10-12). Clearly, it will be a day like none other.

If you're faithful to Jesus then let's go! Leave no soul behind!!!

Dan chapter 12 is an end of the millennium prophecy... The resurrection described in Dan 12:2 indicates a resurrection of righteous and unrighteous. This description does not match the first resurrection, which is called the resurrection of the righteous. Instead this description matches the second resurrection at the end of of the millennium as described during the great white throne judgement in Rev 20:11-14. Unfortunately most prophetic teachers do not recognize that their are two ends in front of us. One ending now at the founding of the kingdom and a second ending at the end of the millennium when the Devil (Rev 20:7-10) and death (Rev 20:14) are finally defeated forever. Read 1 Cor 15:24 where the end is defined clearly as when Messiah returns the kingdom to his Father at the end of the millennium and as occurring when death is defeated. Both these events occur at the end of the millennium, not in our age!

@squirreljones3595

10 ай бұрын

Christians that die before the Mark of the beast are the Bride of Christ Christians that overcome the Mark of the beast are saints The saints are promised white robes and the thousand year reign of Jesus Revelation 7 14 Revelation 20 4 There is no Bible verses that promise those things to the church You're reading it right The church rapture is at judgement day John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth Revelation 21 4 God wipes away the Bride's tears Revelation 21 shows no more days

The 1st resurrection is clearly understood to be after the tribulation of those days yet before the wrath of God. Only the vials or cups are specifically called the wrath of God. The seals and trumpets are not the wrath of God. The entire 7 yrs is not the wrath of God. Once you realize this, then it's quite clear that the 1st resurrection is immediately after the tribulation of those days and before the wrath of God. When the 2 witnesses are called up, that's the 1st resurrection or rapture of the dead in Christ 1st, then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up. It's not about knowing the day or the hour but the event There has to be a pause between the tribulation and the wrath of God.

This dude makes the weakest arguments. 1,260 days is not an idiom, might as well say 1,000 years is just a “long period of time.” How about stop harping post-trib like it’s gospel and admit that all eschatological systems make assumptions based on how they interpret scripture.

Joel, have been studying this subject for quite awhile and ran across this short video about the same subject and all of a sudden it all made sense......timelines don't mean a thing to unbelievers only believers and it is to the unsaved that his return will be as a thief in the night, not us believers/saved. And it clearly states that in 1Ths5:1-6. Have included a link to a video that brings this out so well. kzread.info/dash/bejne/in2Wmq-Pc9eqf6g.html

No Man Knows the Day or the Hour...That was before Christ ascended to heaven

(Mark 13:32) Do you not know Joel, the Father's Word is plain spoken and He does not make contradictory statements: which means you blatantly gainsay the truth (stop making stuff up)?

The church rapture is at judgement day John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth The church was never promised the thousand year reign of Jesus The saints that overcome the Mark of the beast are promised white robes and the thousand year reign of Jesus Revelation 7 14 Revelation 20 4

Daniel 12:11-12 The 1,335th day from the midpoint of the seven year period is a BLESSED day, it is a BLESSING to live thru the antichrist reign, the 1,335th day is the day we must leave the earth, it is the day of the second coming of Jesus to rapture the church out of the earth, and take us back to heaven, it is the BLESSED HOPE the return of Jesus for the church. This is hard for most of u because it's different, u give so many possibilities to one question u can't be settled on anything. U guys make everything happen in seven years, and because of this u will continue to be wrong on many things, I have told u this before, but u continue to teach the same thing. Everytime I have heard u teach on this u make it a grab bag for the answer to this question. U fail to understand that Jesus is coming back at least two more times, and that Revelation 16:15 is the secret coming that no man knows the day and hour of, but u keep putting up the grab bag it makes for interesting dialogue on your videos that will settle nothing.

I'm going to disagree with the 1260 days is just an expression thing., that's a copout and if that's just an expression and not the exact date count (backed up by the other ways of giving it, times, time, and half a time, 42 months), then the Millennium isn't a literal 1000 years either despite Revelation 20 giving thousand years 7 times and we might as well all be Amillennialists. As for Daniel 11, the 1290 days seem to be between the cutting off of daily sacrifices and the abomination of desolation, everyone assumes those two are the exact same day event and then mark 1290 days past that. Why can it not be, the sacrifices are cut off, then 1290 days later the Abomination of Desolation is set up, and then 1260 days later you have Armageddon/End of the Beast Kingdom (I believe Jesus returns earlier than that because the days will be cut short) Finally, Armageddon is a known date, the Beast has armies gathered waiting for Jesus. Ask the Russians about the logistics issues of having an army just set out in a place indefinitely.

Jesus doesn't come back at the end of the Tribulation. He comes back after, as he said, and it does not say how long. You don't need to count days and know if they are lunar months or anything like that. It could be years after. Yet the lingering Beast and his kingdom, decimated by the Bowls of wrath, will still be destroyed at Christ's coming. And it does not say that he is destroyed at the 1335 days, either.

Joel, God and the Son are separate. Jesus sits on the right hand side of God. Mark 16:19. So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (John 20:17) JESUS OWN WORDS...And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. (John17:3)

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

Yes and Jesus Christ the Creator of all things that were Created without Him Was nothing made that Was made, All things were made by Him Jesus Christ. In the Beginning Was the Word Jesus Christ, and the Word Jesus Christ Was with God the Eternal Father in Heaven, and the Word Jesus Christ Was God.

THIS IS WHY I DON’T LIKE JOEL RICHARDSON’s TEACHING! @ about 11:00 he gets us to DOUBT or QUESTION God’s Word. If God said 1,260 days and elsewhere 42 months and elsewhere “time, times, and half a time” … or 1,290 days (Dan12:11) or 1,335 days (Dan12:12) then it is LITERAL and NOT an idiom. ays (Dan12:12) then it is LITERAL and NOT an idiom.

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

Revelation 11:1-19. 3 and a Half Year's The Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ are Raised from the Dead & Raptured Up to Meet Him Jesus Christ in the Air Cloud's of Heaven

@MariaGomez-yr1zw

10 ай бұрын

This response, especially the Spirit of it, is not Christlike. It brings disunity. Ok to disagree, of course. It's how and WHY we're disagreeing that counts.

@Jesusexplains

10 ай бұрын

@@MariaGomez-yr1zw Thanks for your viewpoint, Maria.

I’ve corrected YT “teachers” to stop saying…. The book of “RevelationS”……it is only one Revelation given…. But those YT “teachers” still keep stating Revelations……I tell them check the chapter heading…Revelation It seems miniscual but let’s state what it is written…..