How to Identify a False Prophet // THE RAPTURE & ENDURANCE OF THE SAINTS

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  • @davidskomsvold7070
    @davidskomsvold70709 ай бұрын

    You are a man after my own heart, thank you. I have been a Christian for over 50 years, and a Bible teacher for over 40 years and have never been to a church that did not teach of a pretribulation rapture. But I knew from early on it was not supported by Scripture. To the point, the Lord showed me two separate revelations, the second clarifying the first. The first one was that the pretribulation rapture doctrine is to the church what evolution is to the world. There was no clarification at that time. Some time later He explained what was meant. It was that the theory of evolution gives the world an alternative view of God's creation. The pretribulation rapture doctrine gives the church an alternative view of His second coming. He further indicated that this would be, in part, for people to fall away in the great apostasy, through being disillusioned if they were not firmly planted in Christ. Those that are firmly planted will make the adjustments as a bump in the road. Keep up the good work.

  • @exposingfakechristianity5556

    @exposingfakechristianity5556

    9 ай бұрын

    The fact is, you are not a Christian. The Lord has shown you nothing.

  • @jwhiskey534

    @jwhiskey534

    7 ай бұрын

    I got what ppl call "church hurt", I left my former church after realizing nothing they or what the televangelists they follow say ever came to fruition. Long story short it made me question not God or Jesus, but the Body of Christ as a whole and I began my journey of deconstructing centuries worth of status quos in American Evangelism.

  • @AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed

    @AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jwhiskey534 ,....The fact is, everything called and known as the church is all 100% apostate. Including the fake christians in this video and the original commenter above. They are all outside the kingdom of God and just all steeped in the Godless worlds counterfeit (antichrist) christianity. Get away from everything called the church and real the Bible yourself only, and do not ever listen to anyone from anything called the church. "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." 1 John 2:27 KJV

  • @ednadiaz4193

    @ednadiaz4193

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@jwhiskey534 😆 "church hurt" same here. I just couldn't understand why love for believers was so cold. Was this all there was to church and going to church? Yehovah didn't care? If MY church was closest or the true church what more would I find out of it? Dispair then apathy. I just didn't care to return to my former church. Now since starting on this path to find Truth which was shown to me through Yehovahs doing, I'm now re strengthening my trust in Yehovah and Yeshua! Re learning and learning much things andar peace with my creator.

  • @alanalynn2023
    @alanalynn20239 ай бұрын

    Many will fall away from disappointment

  • @anneramirez6612

    @anneramirez6612

    2 ай бұрын

    Well, it's being taught that the falling away IS the rapture 😮😮😮

  • @uncommonunity787
    @uncommonunity7879 ай бұрын

    Thank you brother. This is timely and very much needed in this time. My continued prayer daily is: "Lord, do not let my love grow cold, and do not let me fall away" as well as "Father, do not let my brothers and sisters fall away, or let their love grow cold and prepare them with fire and zeal with understanding to endure to the end as You have commanded..."

  • @John_Lete

    @John_Lete

    9 ай бұрын

    Our Lord Jesus bless you continually with what He has for you. May it be that the gospel of Jesus; His finished work on the cross be stamped in each one of our hearts that with everything we can boldly go before our Father, knowing with assurance that His embrace never lets go of His children. Surely there is much comfort and rest supplied to us His children by being grounded on the simplicity of the gospel of Jesus. Holy Spirit surely moves mountains. Glory to Jesus for His gospel is like no other and being children in Christ, we can boldly approach the Throne of God, even in the midst of stumbles, our Father takes our hand and embraces us with a love which also is like no other. 🕊❤🕊

  • @exposingfakechristianity5556

    @exposingfakechristianity5556

    9 ай бұрын

    @@John_Lete ,....You don't even know what the gospel is.

  • @kimberleabene1373
    @kimberleabene13739 ай бұрын

    I opened the book of Mathew 24, prayed for help, at that time believing in pre trib rapture. The Holy Spirit came to teach me that day that when Jesus says "immediately after" that means AFTER. Sure it also says He will come when NO ONE expects, As a theif in the Night. Letting us know that so much will be happening in this world, we will not be watching unless we are ALWAYS watching. Post trib is the Day if the Lord. Thats when He comes for the remnant left.❤️🙏👋

  • @aftonline

    @aftonline

    9 ай бұрын

    No, Jesus said IF YOU DO NOT WATCH, I will come upon you like a thief. By the way, the rapture does occur in Matthew 24, but it's not the gathering of the elect at the end of the tribulation (FROM heaven, not TO heaven), no the rapture is "one will be taken, one will be left". Jesus teaches this clearly associating the rapture with the days of Lot and the days of Noah, the clear message being that both Noah and Lot escaped BEFORE the judgement came.

  • @sharonmeade2283

    @sharonmeade2283

    9 ай бұрын

    @@aftonline Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Lot and Noah never left the earth, sin filled as it was. The hand of the Lord guarded them through the escape and the storm. ❤

  • @toddott633

    @toddott633

    8 ай бұрын

    @@aftonline When Jesus says, "About that day knows no man..." He is not referring back to something that is not even in the text of the chapter. He is referring back to the coming that He just mentioned a few verses prior. Were the disciples able to read the mind of Jesus, and discern that He was referring to something that Pretribbers claim was not revealed until it was revealed by Paul ten to twenty years later? "They will see His COMING on the clouds..." "Just as in the days of Noah, so it will be at the COMING..." And if you want to compare the rescue of Noah and Lot with the rapture, they do NOT teach an imminent rapture. Pretribbers claim that the rapture comes without any warning, suddenly. Both Noah and Lot were warned, and neither were taken off the earth. In the story of Noah, the entire world was destroyed. There were no left behind tribulation saints. In the story of Lot, the entire city was destroyed and Lot, fleeing in fear, ended up in a cave raped by his daughters. Is that how the rapture works? No! Scripture is comparing Abraham who chose to dwell in Bethel (the house of God) and Lot, who chose to make his home in the world. Abraham was faithful, while Lot was lukewarm, saved as one who barely escapes the flames.

  • @jamesmcallister9645

    @jamesmcallister9645

    8 ай бұрын

    Preach it, for it is written Matthew 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. ( No secret or pretrib rapture, Glory to God in the name of Jesus Christ for the discernment from the Holy Spirit. )

  • @rogerboyd7185
    @rogerboyd71859 ай бұрын

    The deception that concerns me more than any other is The deception of my own mind. Absolutely the worst kind of deception.

  • @claudiagujbavarga4719

    @claudiagujbavarga4719

    9 ай бұрын

    May theLord be wt all of us and not let us fall inTo selfDeception or any kind of deception. LordJesus helpUsAll.

  • @John_Lete

    @John_Lete

    9 ай бұрын

    Yea, that is where Holy Spirit of Jesus comes in real handy as He keeps us in His embrace and rebukes the whispers of Satan that tries to infiltrate the mind so we would accept the lies and be troubled, But glory and thanks be to Jesus for our God keeps us His children through all the ups and downs of life. The gospel of Jesus; His grace; His finished work, truly is power beyond human words, that the deception is ultimately rebuked and sent back to where it belongs, the pit of hell. May our Lord Jesus always the comforter and no matter what may come your way, may His eyes be upon your eyes to see what our God sees and know with assurance that His love for us has defeated death already. Even though we are still having to ride on the bumpy road until Jesus rescues us, may His Spirit of truth always be the reminder of His truth which is His comfort and assurance that no one or nothing will snatch us His children out of His embrace. Glory to Jesus for He truly is our good God whom never abandons His sons and daughters whom believe His gospel of His grace is the truth. ❤

  • @caulanmiller3708

    @caulanmiller3708

    9 ай бұрын

    Same, brother. I have to rely strongly on God’s sovereignty and remind myself that my walk with Him is one that grows in maturity.

  • @reborndaughter445

    @reborndaughter445

    9 ай бұрын

    Ask the Holy Spirit to teach you each day the things you need to know and He will. A year from now you will be so so peaceful inside with no fear. Keep reading your bible and ask for discernment each day.

  • @venidamcdaniel1913

    @venidamcdaniel1913

    8 ай бұрын

    My greatest fear is if n when I am put to the test I will fail my lord and savior. LORD Give me strength to enDURE until the end

  • @CryptoComics
    @CryptoComics9 ай бұрын

    You are on fire these last few vids, Joel! Really appreciate how focused you are on drilling down into the text and relating it to the present and upcoming struggle, which no part of the body is prepared for as they struggle with each other rather than the enemy.

  • @robertvann7349

    @robertvann7349

    9 ай бұрын

    No. I simply ask Joel are you a non-pacifist that kills and breaks God's commandment thou shalt not kill. Joel says yes without regrets. Liars break thou shalt not lie. Thieves break thou shalt not steal. Amish are pacifists and obey thou shalt not kill. ISAIAH 53 says the Messiah did NO VIOLENCE. Show me one example in NT that an Apostle or disciple killed another man. No way both pacifists and non-pacifists are saved because both liars, thieves, non heterosexuals are saved. Your no Berian brother, your believing a false teacher straight up. 🤣😍👍😎

  • @Gazman67
    @Gazman679 ай бұрын

    Thanks again Joel and FAI. There is danger in that many will run out of oil and their lamps will go out.

  • @Keepitoriginalministry

    @Keepitoriginalministry

    9 ай бұрын

    I was just thinking that

  • @Charlotte-sc7cd

    @Charlotte-sc7cd

    9 ай бұрын

    Amen

  • @gtw4546

    @gtw4546

    9 ай бұрын

    As someone who has used a clay oil lamp on many occasions, I can testify that a lamp that is running out of oil puts out a very terrible stench! Believers 2000 years ago would have known that when hearing this parable, but most today don’t realize how offensive they can become if low on oil!

  • @anneramirez6612

    @anneramirez6612

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@gtw4546VERY WELL STATED! Thx.

  • @donniefreuden1994
    @donniefreuden19949 ай бұрын

    I always questioned the pretrib rapture. But I believed it because every preacher I ever heard said it was true. I’m happy to know I don’t have to believe it anymore

  • @mikebremer3456
    @mikebremer34569 ай бұрын

    The problem with a pre trib rapture is, when the "persecution even unto death" begins, they won't be mentally prepared for what is coming. The false messiah comes first, if you are looking for Jesus first...many will be decieved.

  • @wjdyr6261
    @wjdyr62619 ай бұрын

    Get ready and be ready. Those who are expecting the pre-trib will be disappointed

  • @minimalistmaximus6476

    @minimalistmaximus6476

    9 ай бұрын

    I think many pre-trib believers will deny we are in a tribulation.

  • @tonyubaka3810

    @tonyubaka3810

    9 ай бұрын

    Probably,the great" falling away" spoken of by Apostle Paul comes to mind with many believers disappointed on realizing the Church is gonna be facing d tribulation. Also,d five foolish virgins alludes to same story where many got tired of waiting bcos d Master did not return when they had anticipated.

  • @stormyweather3546

    @stormyweather3546

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@tonyubaka3810I believe the falling away has already started with the churches who agree with the LG..... . The Methodist are going thru this right now.

  • @anneramirez6612

    @anneramirez6612

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@tonyubaka3810 they are believing the "falling away" is their rapture. 😮 They've changed the definition of apostasy. 😮

  • @copperskycoppersky6074
    @copperskycoppersky60749 ай бұрын

    Thank you for directing us to sober minded thinking grounded in Him the living Word for this hour. God bless you and all of FAI. ❤

  • @duaneatsaltysixhomestead5405
    @duaneatsaltysixhomestead54059 ай бұрын

    Self-deception is often done without awareness… blindly accepting doctrines & dogmas of men that have been handed down as “truth” from our spiritual leaders. Be Bereans!!! 🙏

  • @koalabear19

    @koalabear19

    9 ай бұрын

    Easily done sadly in our sluggishness, especially in our comfort loving lives in the West. Too much emphasis on men, not enough seeking after God first and foremost. 'Let God be true and every man a liar'. The fact God does not lie and it's almost impossible for man not to is enough for me to trust blindly in what others say without fact checking the bible carefully

  • @aussiebushhomestead3223
    @aussiebushhomestead32239 ай бұрын

    Brother you are a voice crying out in the wilderness. Thank you for this great series. It is an excellent tool to share the truth with the many christians (sadly the majority I feel) who believe the pre-trib lie. Have a joyous Succot as we await the Messiah's return. Maranatha!

  • @ladyblue9278
    @ladyblue92789 ай бұрын

    AMEN! Thank you for this strong truth ❤ it’s heartbreaking to see all the people who are not prepared for the horrible things to come! 🙏🏼

  • @exposingfakechristianity5556

    @exposingfakechristianity5556

    9 ай бұрын

    If anyone is in/in agreement with any church, they are not a Christian. There are no Christians in the church.

  • @lisaagrios6062
    @lisaagrios60629 ай бұрын

    Haha, my fellow Bostonian... I had to pause the video because I was laughing so hard. I know exactly how you feel. I grew up in MA - north of Boston on the coast, but now live on the coast of Virginia. I'm a hand-talking Northern Greek gal who loves a healthy debate. Your defense is solid. : ) This is a very timely message for me - I love your teachings. I find I debate with my heart on a daily. One of my simple prayers is, Lord, I know you always lead me to the truth - don't let me get in the way - Your will always! Or some version of that.. but the one thing that I'm sure of is that He always does lead me to the truth, and I trust Him to get me there. Thanks for all you do, Joel!

  • @loveislight1995
    @loveislight19959 ай бұрын

    This is such an important message! It's when people that are in reputation and honour, such as those holding the title of pastor for instance, start teaching the pre-tribulation false "idea" that the most harm is done because people feel that they are in safe hands with a pastor and especially one that presents his beliefs in such a fluent and persuasive manner and so people will start flocking there in droves. It's very sad.

  • @eaglea657

    @eaglea657

    8 ай бұрын

    Revelation 22:18-19 DIRE WARNING IF YOU ARE A Teacher OR PASTOR REVELATION 20:4-6 FIRST RESURRECTION John 6: 39,40, 44,54 FIRST RESURRECTION

  • @stephensmith777
    @stephensmith7779 ай бұрын

    You have captured my heart and burden in this video.

  • @ot1974
    @ot19749 ай бұрын

    A lot of leaders have left the people of God open to trouble

  • @cblackink
    @cblackink9 ай бұрын

    Thank you brother for your dedication to truth. Keep running the race. I believe the finish line isn't far off.

  • @pieces200368
    @pieces2003689 ай бұрын

    I feel sorry for the people that believe in pre tribulation

  • @doloreslopez4241
    @doloreslopez42418 ай бұрын

    In the 70s I believed in pre-tribulation rapture. Until I read the Bible myself. I have understood since then that we were being lied to, by TV pastors. Y Bible is my best friend!!

  • @AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed

    @AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed

    7 ай бұрын

    You are being lied to (deceived) by all the churches preachers/teachers. All of them!

  • @user-cy5ym3ru4t
    @user-cy5ym3ru4t9 ай бұрын

    Preach it brother Joel. With more of the confidence of our Lord.

  • @jeffdavis7543
    @jeffdavis75439 ай бұрын

    I love you folks at FAI . Joel I appreciate your teachings. This might sound silly but I dig the primitive mechanics gears operating and that soundtrack. We are praying for all you folks atFAI be safe. Praise HIS name.

  • @laurenwolff3262
    @laurenwolff32629 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your dedication, it is appreciated. I have learned so much from Fai and it helps me to stay on track and keep my priorities straight.

  • @John_Lete

    @John_Lete

    9 ай бұрын

    May it always be that our Lord Jesus is the way maker in all things, as His Spirit always leads us His sons and daughters to His truth and His truth sets us in His comforting hands which is like no other. 🕊

  • @exposingfakechristianity5556

    @exposingfakechristianity5556

    9 ай бұрын

    You have not learned any Biblical truth from these guys. You have only been deceived by them.

  • @exposingfakechristianity5556

    @exposingfakechristianity5556

    9 ай бұрын

    @@John_Lete ,...There is no Biblical truth coming from this channel. You are all totally steeped in deception.

  • @christincommon5496

    @christincommon5496

    9 ай бұрын

    @@exposingfakechristianity5556your blanket slander holds no weight.

  • @exposingfakechristianity5556

    @exposingfakechristianity5556

    9 ай бұрын

    @@christincommon5496,....Blanket slander? I have only given you the truth. This man does not understand the Bible. The few who Jesus came to save understand the Bible.

  • @valeriemagrini1455
    @valeriemagrini14558 ай бұрын

    Thank you Joel for all the time you have put in to this much needed series! It's been excellent and I hope it has waken up many to the truth,

  • @callingallhandsondeck
    @callingallhandsondeck9 ай бұрын

    Joel, keep sharing the message. You cover this a lot. It shows you care. I'm thankful you do. Pre-tribbers are adamant about their stance. Can't count the times I've heard "when I'm flying out of here, I'll say I told you so." Wait, aren't I going too? You're so right about the Northeasterners. I laughed when you told that story. For years during the Holidays, I worked for an online fruit sales company. Pears, baskets, fruit, etc that were way too expensive. I could see the phone numbers of the calls coming in. I quickly learned the area codes of that area especially New York. Sometimes, I'd get tagged team (husband/wife) yelling at me because their pears were too soft. I was younger back then & it bothered me. I'm older & If I still worked there, I'd just go with the flow. It's how they are. It wasn't personal or hateful. Thanks, for everything you do. I need to self reflect everyday. I'm gonna share the scriptures you shared with us. Yes, the Orcs are coming. That's a good visual example.

  • @jpaulinc1
    @jpaulinc19 ай бұрын

    We appreciate your sound Biblical teaching. I have learned so much from you.

  • @AdriennesHaus
    @AdriennesHaus9 ай бұрын

    Im with you Joel!! I love a rousing debate over theology !! I wish more people speak and preach the truth!!! You guys have been my spiritual food since I had a Jesus encounter and came to Christ ❤🫶🙌

  • @Keepitoriginalministry

    @Keepitoriginalministry

    9 ай бұрын

    Amen and pastor Joe schimmel. Check him out

  • @LastDaysDetective
    @LastDaysDetective9 ай бұрын

    A necessary message that hopefully will bear fruit!

  • @branded648
    @branded6489 ай бұрын

    I enjoy your teaching Brother Joel. When you said in one of your videos to not be Dogmatic....it resonated with me because Holy Spirit impressed that on me prior to watching you. To me it was confirmation that I heard clearly from the Lord . Peace and MARANATHA Brother ✌️💯

  • @jawneethecurious
    @jawneethecurious6 күн бұрын

    Another session of excellent teaching Joel. I wholeheartedly agree!

  • @veronicanash270
    @veronicanash2709 ай бұрын

    Thank you Maranatha!

  • @callieferg
    @callieferg5 ай бұрын

    Reeeeally need a series that teaches us how to share these truths with different groups of people

  • @ginayedinak6036
    @ginayedinak60369 ай бұрын

    Really important teaching. Thank you!

  • @stevedoherty4680
    @stevedoherty46809 ай бұрын

    How bout saving your advertisements till the end of your teaching. They break the flow big time.

  • @deniserobertson7146
    @deniserobertson71469 ай бұрын

    Thank you Brother Joel, for all these lessons and your dedication. Your example of humbleness and a contrite heart have been a huge example of Christ to me. These videos have shown me that I need to seek the Lord more and pray for grace to be prepared and ready. God is faithful. I want Him to find me faithfully waiting and alert!

  • @HappyHolyHealthyLife
    @HappyHolyHealthyLife9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this awesome series! 👏❤

  • @cindysim4084
    @cindysim40849 ай бұрын

    Titus tells us our blessed hope is Jesus comes for us and keeps us from his wrath.

  • @bobthrasher8226
    @bobthrasher82269 ай бұрын

    "If I'm wrong, worst case, I'm pleasantly surprised... 23:50" - good application of Pascal's wager!

  • @timpennell1958
    @timpennell19589 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this blessing...

  • @vitalimpactsevengroup6324
    @vitalimpactsevengroup63249 ай бұрын

    Much love to you Joel your wife and Dalton’s Dallas warnings truths! (Judah

  • @corneliacarden4344
    @corneliacarden43449 ай бұрын

    Thank you brother Joel 😇 We are watchman on the wall, looking, warning, interceding, shedding light on the days we are in and the darkness and difficulties ahead. We must be prepared as a bride waiting for her groom, remaining Holy set apart, clothed in white linen, with the oil of the Holy Spirit in lamps of our hearts, keeping our eyes and focus longing for our groom, knowing how much he loves us❤️ Whatever I must endure until He comes He will hold me in the palm of His and tuck me under His wing. May I love Yeshua and Abba as much as they deserve and as much as they love me❤️ Maranatha !!!! 🕎📖✝️🔥🕊️❤️🙌🏻

  • @QueMari
    @QueMari9 ай бұрын

    This teaching was on fire 🔥 awesome!

  • @user-ty6mo3oj5n
    @user-ty6mo3oj5n9 ай бұрын

    From around the 18:14 minute mark until the 20:20 minute mark described me much too close for comfort lol. Thanks for that.

  • @ramkanjeenterprises5416
    @ramkanjeenterprises54165 ай бұрын

    Thank GOD for impacting on you the gift of teaching. This is in sound doctrine.

  • @claudiagujbavarga4719
    @claudiagujbavarga47199 ай бұрын

    GodBlessU Joel and your family ..love y'r hilariousStories:)) LordJesus helpUsAll.

  • @ladyblue9278
    @ladyblue92789 ай бұрын

    Thank you for speaking the truth!

  • @stacetriebwasser6425
    @stacetriebwasser64259 ай бұрын

    The person we lie to the most is ourselves.

  • @onezapmariner.9943
    @onezapmariner.99439 ай бұрын

    You are solid Brother.

  • @valeriemarysong
    @valeriemarysong9 ай бұрын

    Pre-trib people are very hardline, I've found. If I dare to suggest in the comments of their videos that they should at least tell their followers to prepare for the worst, just in case they are wrong, I get very hard replies back. They tell me how right they are and how wrong I am. I find it difficult to understand why they are like that. It's as if they are trying to defend their view to themselves as well as to me. I think that may be what it is, that they are trying to convince themselves that they will escape the suffering to come. How could Jesus let them suffer? I have listened to their reasonings and checked my bible. Nowhere have I found evidence of a pre-trib rapture. I just can't get through to them with my arguments. We must pray that they find the truth before they are confronted with what may overwhelm them. Like you, Joel, I would be so thankful not to face the horror to come. I would be laughing if I were saved in a pre-trib rapture. Just not expecting it. Praying the Lord will get me through it. Bless you for all you do. Maranatha.

  • @MeLrOsE429

    @MeLrOsE429

    9 ай бұрын

    My comments are usually deleted, no matter how respectful and lovingly I try to ask them to consider a scripture or ask the Father in the secret place for knowledge and wisdom..... The only thing I can come up with is 2 Thessalonians 2:10, 11. (my paraphrase) V10 they received not the love of the truth (their heart/flesh wants to fly away and not go through pain of tribulation) v11 for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. (𝙞𝙛 𝙞𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙂𝙤𝙙 who is sending the delusion because He knows their heart, there's nothing I can say to change their mind.)

  • @koalabear19

    @koalabear19

    9 ай бұрын

    I actually made some notes earlier, from my own study following this series. I believe that Dalton covered these in episode 3. Gathering Together (Rapture) of the saints to Jesus - Matthew 24:27-31 [lighting comes from East, so will be coming of the Son of Man, sign of the return of the Lord matches 6th seal, lightning matches 7th trumpet] - 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 [gathering at the Lord's return, dead in christ rise first, trumpet call of God] - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 [not gathered unless man of lawlessness comes first, i.e. antichrist] - 1 Corinthians 15:51,52 [changed in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet] Hope that helps a bit 😊

  • @chriscousineau4537

    @chriscousineau4537

    9 ай бұрын

    The reason why many pretribbers are very hardline is because sadly, for many of them, their faith is rooted in emotions and not facts. They NEED pretrib to be true. Emotions evoke a very strong response. I have spoken to several pretribbers who have gone as far as saying that if the rapture doesn't happen before the tribulation starts then they'll doubt the entire Bible. It seems for some, their faith depends on being kept out of harms way - and this is a perfect example of why the Church needs purifying through trial. It is not a coincidence that pretrib is the predominant belief in the Western world - Westerners with easy, comfortable lives don't want to contemplate persecution or to think about their lives being interrupted and so pretrib is very appealing to them. Imagine how appealing the promise is of hot meals, daily showers and your favourite ball game right up until the end. Pretrib appeals to the weakness of the flesh. I have debated many dozens of pretribbers and what starts out as a relatively cordial debate often degenerates into them name calling when they run out of arguments. I have been called 'pure evil' for questioning pretrib. I've been called 'unsaved' numerous times. All they have are slurs because they can't debate the plain fact that pretib is a patently obvious false doctrine that is so easy to debunk it really takes no effort at all and one must be willfully blind to deny it. I was ran out of a local church the day I questioned their stance on pretrib, having worshipped there for nearly two years. Their position was: "We're pretrib - either you're pretrib too or you're out". Pretrib is a cult.

  • @stormyweather3546

    @stormyweather3546

    9 ай бұрын

    Just ask them if they are willing to carry the cross and suffer for Jesus. Do not have to say they are going to, but ask if they are willing to.

  • @valeriemarysong

    @valeriemarysong

    9 ай бұрын

    @@stormyweather3546 I did mention standing for Jesus and enduring as he did for us if so called but I was accused then of a works-based faith.

  • @carolyndice2425
    @carolyndice24259 ай бұрын

    “The orks are coming over the wall”……?? Hmmmm…..That phrase must be similar to “there’s Klingons on the starboard bow, Captain…… “😅😅😅 Just kidding. Seriously, this is an excellent teaching and has me wondering in what ways I have deceived myself. Thank you.

  • @LoriMooreThompson

    @LoriMooreThompson

    9 ай бұрын

    Orks, of Lord of The Rings fame, and yes, much like Klingons boarding Starship Enterprise. Only worse.

  • @martinlieber
    @martinlieber9 ай бұрын

    Thank you Joel! It is indeed a very important teaching you have delivered, I have often wondered about those who believe in a pre-trib rapture, what a dissapointment it could very well be for them, will they then question their own belief ? Will they then fall for the strong delusion that will come? We must always pray, watch and be not decieved. Excellent Video!!!

  • @jerry7956
    @jerry79568 ай бұрын

    Amen. Well done. Amen.

  • @seandavis6262
    @seandavis62629 ай бұрын

    Great teaching, Amen and Maranatha !!!

  • @shirazisit
    @shirazisit9 ай бұрын

    Very well done my dear friend. I couldn't think of a better way to get across the message with a caring heart, with some "grit" in it - we need to be prepared to stand before the Son of Man at His Judgment Seat which seems to be introduced by the trials we face - the fire 1 Cor 3:10-15. Getting back into this excellent collection of teachings... Greg

  • @chrisnathanael6817
    @chrisnathanael68179 ай бұрын

    I’m agreeing with you that to be open minded we hope that it is a Pretrib yet be open minded that it may very well be going through a lot of the tribulation When you consider how many Saints have been in their own tribulation and tests and trials and persecution’s ending even in death When you look at how many of the apostles died killed for their faith You must be conscious of the fact it can happen to us aswell Thanks Joel and the crew for your efforts to enlighten us further 😀🙏☝️

  • @julianaallen8477
    @julianaallen84779 ай бұрын

    The last passage Joel read "who is the wise servant who the master made ruler over all his house.. to give them their food in due season.. I really think this is speaking litterally. Like the 7 years of plenty and the 7 years of famine with Joseph, he was literally able to sustain his family bc he stock piled food when there was plenty. I believe this verse is saying the same. I mean some oatmeal or rice may be the difference to someone who is thinking about talking the mark. I really really feel like while we can we need to do what we can, while we can still buy. Maybe just a couple things a week.. but start saving something (not cash bc it will be worthless anyway).

  • @MeLrOsE429

    @MeLrOsE429

    9 ай бұрын

    How do you sustain yourself though if they come and take your house because you can't pay the mortgage? Honestly asking because I don't know how to live off the grid. I would have to believe the Father to sustain me like He did Elijah.

  • @julianaallen8477

    @julianaallen8477

    9 ай бұрын

    @MeLrOsE429 I mean, yeah, trust in God is a big one. I have an emergency to go pack just in case. I bought a tent that i can just throw in my husband car if we see it come to that. Personally, I plan on being martyred and going home. Until then, though, having some extra water and non-perishable food to give to people who are unaware of what is happening is my goal. Obviously, having 3.5 years of food and water is not possible. But it will be the best time to get the gospel out. I really don't think most will make it to the rapture bc they will be killed before then. Who cares, all they are doing by killing people is sending them home.

  • @julianaallen8477

    @julianaallen8477

    9 ай бұрын

    @@MeLrOsE429 do you own your car?

  • @julianaallen8477

    @julianaallen8477

    9 ай бұрын

    @MeLrOsE429 we have no idea when this will all happen. I like the documentary Messiah 2030. Plus 2030 makes sense for Jesus's return, but still it's just an educated guess. Matthew 24 Jesus gives a huge clue about the abomination of desolation. That has not happened yet, when it does I pray we will be ready for what's to come.

  • @MeLrOsE429

    @MeLrOsE429

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@julianaallen8477Totally agree. I plan on being martyred as well. I pray I am counted worthy of that honor. My husband and I have talked about it. We could build up a storehouse of food (and we are but not a doomsday type of setup) because we also know that, in that day, the mark will be required for gasoline (so no travel) and, as I mentioned, if you cannot pay your mortgage.... but this is where I think getting alone with the Father and asking for knowledge and wisdom is what I must do because I can try to figure it out all day long but my peanut-sized brain cannot. Thankfully, we have the mind of Christ to help! 🙌🏻. Have a good day! Blessings to you!

  • @Cubpupsmom
    @Cubpupsmom9 ай бұрын

    Revelation 22:18-19 says: “For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:18-19 It may turn out to be a salvation issue. To have one’s “part taken out of the Book of Life” is devastating eternally. We know what will happen to those whose names are not found in the Book of Life and the Pre-Trib rapture is adding and taking away and there is a very real danger in doing that.

  • @belcardwell
    @belcardwell9 ай бұрын

    What a thought provoking word - thank you!

  • @burgo0019
    @burgo00199 ай бұрын

    Good Job again Joel, all so true.

  • @ladyhawkNone
    @ladyhawkNone9 ай бұрын

    I tried to warn ppl to be prepared in case they were wrong. I got attacked...vehemently.

  • @markellis7046
    @markellis70469 ай бұрын

    Thank you brother. That was refreshing.

  • @Doogiecdog
    @Doogiecdog9 ай бұрын

    What I can say with ABSOLUTE confidence about Biblical eschatology is this…Jesus will return when the Father says, “Go”!

  • @s.hicks7213
    @s.hicks72132 күн бұрын

    When my husband was young, he never heard of a “rapture” until the late 80’s early 90’s when pastors really started teaching it in the church . He ditched the pre wrath/post tribulation resurrection, and started to believe in a pre trib rapture. That lasted until recently, when I asked him, “why are we believing this? I think we’re afraid of the tribulation.” He immediately got defensive, saying “No way! It’s because it’s true, that’s why I believe!” I said “well, from what our pastor keeps saying, so much of the Book of Matthew, and Peter has nothing to do with the gentiles. In fact he saying that most of Revelation has nothing to do with the gentiles. He keeps saying over and over again; ‘we don’t need to worry! Because we won’t be here’ it’s all surrounding a teaching out of fear, and it doesn’t sound like the character of our Lord!” Our “blessed hope” isn’t the rapture. Our blessed hope is that we be counted worthy on the day we meet the Lord. Our blessed hope is Christ Jesus HIMSELF. That we’re covered by His precious and righteous blood. Whether it’s in death, or if we somehow survive the Great Tribulation, Lord willing, that we be counted worthy and therefore, saved on the day of the Lord. Praise God that he finally admitted to me that it was fear of having to go through the Great Tribulation. He did a lot of his own research regarding the early church fathers and came to face his own fear and no longer believes in a pre tribulation rapture. ✝️

  • @jordin83
    @jordin839 ай бұрын

    I am post rapture because I believe we should all be tested and that is all.

  • @sinew3166

    @sinew3166

    9 ай бұрын

    Being tested is testifying! A witness

  • @johntandy8918

    @johntandy8918

    9 ай бұрын

    What is post rapture?

  • @julianaallen8477

    @julianaallen8477

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@johntandy8918 they mean they believe in a post trib rapture, not a pre trib rapture.

  • @julianaallen8477

    @julianaallen8477

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@johntandy8918 something tells me you already knew that.

  • @johntandy8918

    @johntandy8918

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@julianaallen8477I hope so ❤️ because post rapture (and I asked because I don't fully understand it) is a pre-trib theology about leaving instructions for people who weren't "lucky" enough to be beamed up out of here and have to somehow "prove" themselves 🙏

  • @shadereed71
    @shadereed719 ай бұрын

    Powerful! Great message.

  • @melaniefafard1684
    @melaniefafard16849 ай бұрын

    Anytime I'm listening to a preacher...teacher or anyone and they say pre trib rapture I'm thinking they r deceived can't listen anymore

  • @user-hy2du8fg6l

    @user-hy2du8fg6l

    9 ай бұрын

    Same with RAPTURE to represent the 1st Resurrection (Rev 20). I know they don't know Scripture. Also, the word GLOBAL or GLOBE in their presentation. Enoch (Priest & Prophet)

  • @chriscousineau4537

    @chriscousineau4537

    9 ай бұрын

    @@user-hy2du8fg6l Yep. Also claiming the word FIRMAMENT means the 'expanse' of space. Also preachers claiming to know God's Word and his creation, then waxing lyrical about how amazing the Universe is and how it demonstrates God's awesomeness. Completely fooled and deluded.

  • @duaneatsaltysixhomestead5405
    @duaneatsaltysixhomestead54059 ай бұрын

    I can just imagine John the Baptist saying “Den of vipers… Bless your heart!” 😂

  • @jarrettjb
    @jarrettjb9 ай бұрын

    Read your Bible daily, daily be filled with the spirit, and associate around others that do the same. Pretty simple.

  • @gregkord6161
    @gregkord61619 ай бұрын

    Well presented

  • @arunamy362
    @arunamy3629 ай бұрын

    One of your most powerful teachings 🔥

  • @pristinepersians
    @pristinepersians3 ай бұрын

    I have also noticed how defensive they get when they cannot get us to believe these things not proven in scripture. This is not the holy spirit. I was a preterist all my life up until the reformed church got me out of fantasy land. I was teachable, because God allowed me to be open to correction, but they do not care about what is right in some areas. They have decided to believe what they want in spite of evidence.

  • @blackswanrevelations
    @blackswanrevelations9 ай бұрын

    Thankyou for sharing this video. I appreciate the time and energy it takes to make a video like this. But you do know I have to now make a video about this. But I promise to be respectful. And I have some thoughts about false prophets and what happens to the true prophets that are encouraged to not speak out. I think of Jeremiah. How many prophets came against him because he was saying destruction is coming. Jeremiah was abused. So sad. Anyway. Keep up the good work it helps me create my own content.

  • @gnarlynews5732
    @gnarlynews57329 ай бұрын

    Just however your teaching about 1Corinthians 15.52 and Ephesians 4.30, just wait till our mortal bodies, even Christ Jehovah had one as ours, and now clothes our souls, by grace, he will return Genesis 49.9, Isiah 63.1-3, Joel 3.4-13 Revelation 19.14, Isiah 30.26, and I totally agree in Christ with to be ready. Thanks

  • @ARenewedmind
    @ARenewedmind9 ай бұрын

    Thank you brother Joel for being a true shepherd! Now will you go one step further and tell us, what are we to do about CDC? How close is that to the "mark of the beast"? What do you do when your savings are turned into "tokens" without warning and without your consent?

  • @markmoore3530
    @markmoore35309 ай бұрын

    Greetings, anyone who teaches a rapture doctrine is a false prophet. Everyone who has listened to this video will stop breathing one day and never, ever, witness a so-called rapture event. There will not be a rapture today, tomorrow, in 10 years, in 100 years from now or ever. The point in this video that we should openly talk about things is an excellent point. We are brothers and sisters in Christ, even if we disagree. this message is sent in love, your friend

  • @janeylynn5934
    @janeylynn59349 ай бұрын

    Joel: I don't know how much you've heard about the soon-coming CBDC and digital ID"s, but I would really like to know your thoughts on how Christians are to handle these things.

  • @jacobusvandermerwe1922
    @jacobusvandermerwe19229 ай бұрын

    Revelation 20:4-5 [4]And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. [5]But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

  • @naomiTHErocker
    @naomiTHErocker9 ай бұрын

    I don’t understand why some say this isn’t a salvation issue….. or they are okay with “agree to disagree” this is gonna be so detrimental for many people later on if the church doesn’t get it together.

  • @markhaszoe-life6337
    @markhaszoe-life63379 ай бұрын

    I agree, if they would just teach it could be this or be that. But they teach it so strong if you don't beleive the pretrib, your not a real Christian

  • @LiddieJane
    @LiddieJane9 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the heart felt path. But evil is evil and lies are lies. Stealing is stealing. We see it. And the awakening is our own opportunity to repent and change. God spoke. People were correct in their words from the Lord. Satan is desparate in this hour and the church is waking up. And I don't see a future tribulation. Its happening. Our country is under covenant with God and we have to return.

  • @wjdyr6261
    @wjdyr62619 ай бұрын

    I'm one God Jesus name pentecostal and I know for a fact that what Jesus birthed after his resurrection in the book of Acts continues to this day. Of course we still have to be careful and judge accordingly

  • @janeylynn5934
    @janeylynn59349 ай бұрын

    Do the 10 kings arise before the beginning of the final 7 years, or after?

  • @3TheJesusCodeWebBooks
    @3TheJesusCodeWebBooks9 ай бұрын

    Ok so what do we do in a no pre trib reality,? Take a tip from the LDS. Preparation, food storage, self sufficiency, Remember the 10 virgins. Keep your lamps full physically and spiritualy.

  • @UrbanPovertist
    @UrbanPovertist9 ай бұрын

    Last thing. God knows times have changed. Very wise. The earth no longer speaks death. Laws have changed.

  • @OnyxStudiosInteractive
    @OnyxStudiosInteractive9 ай бұрын

    personally I think everyone should use their own discernment and intuition and not give their power away to anyone. I do believe that there are challenges coming and a great shift in spirit and consciousness is already underway. I've found the best way to evaluate any claim is to do your own research first, listen to multiple channels, look at their track record and be open to changing your mind if the information resonates within your heart and makes sense. While it still might not necessarily happen, you won't have just given away your power to unscrupulous, foolish or otherwise misinformed people.

  • @koalabear19

    @koalabear19

    9 ай бұрын

    I've found trusting in mankind to often result in frustration, confusion and disappointment. However, trusting in Jesus Christ I've found someone truly worthy of all my trust and loyalty. My life is in His hands and I strive to keep knowing Him better and to keep following Him 😊

  • @gailbrown9096
    @gailbrown90969 ай бұрын

    Between the two: the pretribers and the post tribers, are they strong enough in their faith and enough to go through the great tribulation . They think they are righteous enough to be raptured. Are they walking with God like Enoch and Elijah.

  • @MichaelThompson-qe2wg
    @MichaelThompson-qe2wg9 ай бұрын

    Wats with the music at the start

  • @triciabgirl3935
    @triciabgirl39359 ай бұрын

    I have no clue how to be ready for what is coming

  • @Follower_of_The_Way_
    @Follower_of_The_Way_9 ай бұрын

    So what would a person do to prepare for the great tribulation?

  • @uchennanwosu2488

    @uchennanwosu2488

    9 ай бұрын

    Receive the Holy Spirit and you will be prepared😂😂🎉😂😂😊

  • @timfinch7857
    @timfinch78579 ай бұрын

    I've been a Christian (Charasmatic) for 45 yrs. I know of no prophet during this time except possibly Kenneth Hagin Sr. Doesn't mean I don't believe in modern day prophets, just means if there have been any in the last 45 yrs, I don't know them. Thoughts?

  • @julianaallen8477

    @julianaallen8477

    9 ай бұрын

    Agree completely. I never gave it to much thought other than that if what a "prophet" says does not come to pass, then that prophet is not from God. Although the Bible says " your young men will prophecy and your old men will dream dreams, in the time of the end.. so..there absolutely could be, but people just need to be super cautious, and make sure they aren't being pulled into a cult.

  • @anneramirez6612

    @anneramirez6612

    2 ай бұрын

    My opinion only is that all the true prophets of old are resting in JESUS. There won't be any new ones until the 2 witnesses arrive. Anyone claiming to be a prophet today have MONETIZED the Words of JESUS CHRIST for their profit.

  • @UrbanPovertist
    @UrbanPovertist9 ай бұрын

    An angel disobedience to God. I refuse to raise the sword to the ignorant. I make all attempts to share wisdom

  • @tonyubaka3810
    @tonyubaka38109 ай бұрын

    If u understand d story of d five foolish virgins who grew tired of waiting bcos their timing doesn't tally with our Lord's return, symbolically represented with finished oil in their lamps coupled with Apostle Paul's warning about d great "falling away " and d coming of d man of lawlessness, then u can understand d predicament d pri-tribers are confronted with.

  • @lmorter7867
    @lmorter78679 ай бұрын

    I have a friend that insists that if I don't believe in the pretrib rapture I will be left behind. I gave up trying to discuss this matter with her.

  • @anneramirez6612

    @anneramirez6612

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, they call us "tribulation saints."

  • @takishasage-freebeautyzone
    @takishasage-freebeautyzone9 ай бұрын

    Say your gen x without saying you're gen x... "This one time in metal shop at school I made a mace...and I was in the backyard smashing stuff" 😂 I love our generation!

  • @rentlastname2824
    @rentlastname28249 ай бұрын

    Ps Joel you say that the pre-trib doctrine is false, and that those who preach it look and sound like the false prophets of Ezekiel’s time, preaching peace when there is no peace. Yet you want to make it clear from the start that you are not calling them false prophets?

  • @dhe777
    @dhe7779 ай бұрын

    Can you compliment this on how to identify false Pastor's or more Biblically, Shepherds?

  • @anda9690

    @anda9690

    9 ай бұрын

    yes!! how to properly test them with the Scriptures… remember satan also knows the Scriptures and he quoted from them to tempt Jesus, he is very intelligent and has been observing us for a long time, evil’s strategy is always either telling an incomplete truth out of context or a truth mixed with a lie… and false teachers will deceive you while quoting Scripture

  • @dhe777

    @dhe777

    9 ай бұрын

    @@anda9690 So if we take the Whole of the New Testament scripture and the examples of the Bible, how do you think the institutionalized church lines up with it?

  • @anda9690

    @anda9690

    9 ай бұрын

    @@dhe777 seems to me that the institutionalized church always ends up with corrupted leaders imposing an agenda … I don’t follow men… I don’t associate with any denomination… so much deception and disappointment and it leads people to reject God because of the fault in men… eyes and heart on Jesus and the Word that’s it…

  • @shirleychen7412
    @shirleychen74129 ай бұрын

    One day of the lord where all the dry bones then all that are left written in the book of life get caught up. The ones who are martyred are the tribulation saints. Directly read from the word. Heaven comes down to earth, we don't go to heaven. The Millinial reign.

  • @eaglea657
    @eaglea6578 ай бұрын

    Revelation 20:4-6

  • @rocdajacable
    @rocdajacable9 ай бұрын

    Isn't this a repeat? Or a part 2 idk

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