Thank you, Lord! Thank you for my Brother’s and Sister’s in Christ, that we can learn from each other and praise and worship you! I pray for everyone who reads this, that you know Jesus and have been saved by his grace. I love you all and I am blessed that I am able to spend eternity together with you and our Lord Jesus Christ!

I appreciate your opening clip with the gears, etc. It is helpful to know that God has meticulously planned times and events for His own purposes and our benefit...

@ringlora2

10 ай бұрын

This comment gives me hope for what is going on in my life right now..thank you so much for this 😇

@aprilfinniss3946

10 ай бұрын

God has NOT appointed us to wrath! Those who are born again DO NOT go thru the tribulation.

@tarlakramer258

10 ай бұрын

Do love the intro

@chadrourke7745

10 ай бұрын

@@aprilfinniss3946 Biblically, there is no specific period of time referred to as the "tribulation." There is the "Great Tribulation," also known as, "Jacob's Trouble." That time is not God's wrath. It is the persecution of Jews and Christians (and of those who don't take the mark of the beast), perpetrated by satan via the anti-christ. We have been promised that we will face persecution in life. True - we are not appointed unto God's wrath. His eschatological wrath begins with the blowing of the first trumpet.

@flcougar

10 ай бұрын

​@@aprilfinniss3946The tribulation is NOT God's wrath any more than the plagues of Egypt were His wrath. God's wrath WILL be after the rapture which happens after the tribulation. The great and terrible day of the Lord (wrath) will be directed at the Antichrist and his armies. We will be tested.

The teacings are always excellent. I'm sure all involved at FAI realize that there's other teachings on end time events. Many are sure they're correct and never ADMIT that they could be wrong. One can listen to great teaching all day long on these things BUT if you die in the middle of the night without Jesus as savior the teachings mean nothing right?. I appreciate it when Joel says he's willing to be shown where he's wrong. Thanks to all who make the broadcast possible. ❤❤

@aprilfinniss3946

10 ай бұрын

He is wrong, GOD has NOT appointed us to wrath! Those Born again DO NOT go thru any part of the tribulation.

@christinec1674

10 ай бұрын

​@@aprilfinniss3946The Most Highs wrath is NOT the tribulation. And furthermore, He can preserve us through the tribulation just as He preserved Noah. The "pretrib rapture" is a false doctrine. Yeshua explained in the gospels that the tares will be gathered up FIRST and thrown into the fire to be burned THEN the wheat will go into His barn.

@esperanza210

10 ай бұрын

You talking about the God in the Bible..God says He will blot your name out also...

@bugsocsollie1694

10 ай бұрын

​@esperanza210 That wasn't to the Body of Christ. It was to Israel but also includes any believer in Israel's 70th week. But the Body of Christ Church won't be in Israel's 70th week, it's for them, not for us.

@bugsocsollie1694

10 ай бұрын

​@@christinec1674Romans 2:8-9 both Tribulation and Wrath are for the unbelievers, not for the Body of Christ Church. It's Israel's 70th week, not ours. The only reason their 70th week didn't come right after their 69th week is because Paul was called and sent with a different message to the Gentiles. He was given a Dispensation of Grace. And this Dispensation of Grace for the Gentiles will be over (the Restrainer) before their 70th week begins. Romans 11:25 And we see that happening in Revelation 7 with the 144,000 Jews and the Great multitude. The 144,000 Jews are preaching their Gospel of the Kingdom all over the world before the end comes. Matthew 24:14. Pretty simple stuff with a little right division.

Even during my pretrib days, I had issue with the teaching that the Holy Spirit is removed. I knew there was no way someone could be a Christian and endure the tribulation without the Spirit.

@jessicaagallantt

9 ай бұрын

this is so true!!!

@archangel_one

8 ай бұрын

In a way, they don't. They are beheaded. Spiritually, they do endure to the end.

@donhaddix3770

6 ай бұрын

believers endured in the ot without the spirit.

@Praise___YaH

2 ай бұрын

Guys, here is The Savior HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins YaH was Crucified on an Almond TREE - Ancient Semitic Cuneiform of Moshe (Moses) - Isa Scroll (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.” Isaiah 43:11 “I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me.” Isaiah 45:5 “I am YaH, and there is none else.”

@josephkuzara2609

2 ай бұрын

Through studying the greek concerning this passage, it has come to my attention that a part of the passage in particular vs7 of the line: until he be " taken" out of the "way"is mistranslated, confusing greatly the meaning of 2 thess2:1-8 causing a plethora of false interpretations. Although I would say for many out of ignorance because every english version i have come across has universally used the mistranslation either deliberately out of there own presuppositional agenda and or in lacking wisdom ,copy and pasted the previous work of others without investigating in the greek. Everything we need to know of what and who the restrainer is and who is being restrained , is found in 2 thess 2:1-8 within the greek. the Great apostasy of the Faith must occur first before the antichrist comes out and reveals himself so the climax of the fallen away of the faith is what keeps the antichrist from revealing himself. but the focus of Paul is not who or what is restraining the antichrist but what and specifically who is restraining the 2nd return of Messiah Yeshua. sense the letter concerns the Day of the Lord as the parousia of Yeshua and our gathering to Him while reminding the thessalonians of that appointed time because many were sending written reports that the day of YAHVH had already occurred. A.T. Robertson explains that an idiomatic use of the neuter singular may appear when an abstract expression is used to sum up a whole mass of ideas or expressions. (A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, Nashville: Broadman, 1934, p.409 So Paul was reminding them what restrains(neuter) as a whole concerning both awaiting events and who restrains(masculine) in particular Yeshua's 2nd final and climactic return. the mystery of lawlessness is already at work in those two awaiting events and will not come to its climax until the masculine restrainer comes out of the midst into being of where he is(not taken out of the way) to then reveal himself. then Yeshua is no longer restrained to return to then destroy the antichrist. Which will be as a thief in the night during the 6th vial to catch the unforgiven off guard. How 2 thess 2:1-8 should be understood with the correct translation is: 1.Now we beseech you, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the Day of the Lord is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that Day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called god, or that is worshipped; so that he as god sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what restrains(neuter vs.3) that He(Messiah Yeshua) might be revealed in His time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he(the antichrist) who now restrains(masculine) will do so until he comes out of the midst into being(of where he is). 8 And then shall he be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

Thank you Joel. You're an excellent teacher and I appreciate you 🎉

If God the Spirit is removed,who gets saved in the period after He is removed...without the Spirit no one gets born again.❤

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

And that is why the Restrainer is Not the Holy Spirit ! 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. His own Time is the Restrainer !

@aprilfinniss3946

9 ай бұрын

The Bible specifically talks about the people who get saved during the tribulation ❤. They may be beaheded for their faith, but there are people who get saved.

@donhaddix3770

8 ай бұрын

no one was born again in the old testament or indwelt by the holy spirit.

@scott596

8 ай бұрын

@@donhaddix3770 they were still Saved By Faith just as Abraham Was Saved by Faith in God and Jesus Christ and the Word of God, and By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God and Jesus Christ, and what is the Promise of God and Jesus Christ ? Being Filled with the Power of the Holy Spirit ! And being Saved through Faith in Jesus Christ and the Word of God !

@scott596

8 ай бұрын

@@donhaddix3770 the Holy Spirit Lead those in the Old Testament from Without ! They were not Indwelt with the Power of the Holy Spirit, they had the Holy Spirit without, to Lead Them and Help them, ! We have the Holy Spirit Within to Empower Us ! No One can be Saved, without being Lead By God and Jesus Christ through the Power of the Holy Spirit.

Good job Joel. I remember the first time I heard Marv Rosenthal first teach about the restrainer being Michael. I thought long and hard about it. Also, when I read Reggie's article about the Devil himself being the restrainer. I learn more towards Reggie views but... hard to tell. Again appreciate the series.

@deanmuhl7417

10 ай бұрын

I love the discussion! In Revelation 12 when the dragon goes to war and Michael defeats him he is cast to the Earth and it seems like there are two opposite kingdoms that are released. The lawless Kingdom which is the beast that must continue for a short time is in power simultaneously as the kingdom of God is beginning to be established on Earth. It sure does seem like Satan being cast out with his angels is a necessity in order for God's kingdom to be manifest on earth.

Thanks Joel, as always, humble and sincere.

Joel Throughout the word of God things were shown in the heavenly realm and earth (Daniel for example) - sometimes in His word something can mean both - We shall wait on the Lord and see as it unfolds - Daniel 12 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter It is the glory of kings to search it out :) Praise Him

God bless you my friend. I really appreciate all of these teachings. They definitely help me stay rooted in the Word. Maranatha

Maranatha brother I love you

Absolutely phenomenal video, Joel. Love when you guys dive deep into the text and history, relentlessly digging for the truth of God. You're on point like the late great Doc Heiser! May the Spirit continue you to bless you with wisdom to spread truth and defeat inaccuracies as we approach the world to come!

The LORD reigns Blessed be His glorious name forever

The very question that has been on my mind lately. Nice timing. Tend to agree with this interpretation. Makes the most sense in light of what we "know," in my view. Well done.

Shabbat begins the morrow morning, after the evening watch ❤️ emet.

Thank you Joel. I appreciate the view that it ends up being, until God's appointed time, regardless of the detail. Nevertheless, He will be revealed at the midpoint , signifying the beginning of the Great Tribulation, prior to the 2nd coming of Messiah

Doing a word search on the Most High is a blessing :)

When future events do not unfold as interpreted by the novel dispensationalists, the faith of many will be utterly destroyed. ✔️

@maryrose6203

9 ай бұрын

Sad, but true

Awesome. Amen

Wow, you made me re-think what i believed about the Holy spirit restrainer, because i always wondered how the tribulation saints would get saved if the holy spirit is removed. Michael being tbe restrainer does make the most sense.

@benny-yj7pq

10 ай бұрын

Why do you think, that Michael is removed? Dan 12 says, that he comes to help Israel.

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time !

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

​​@@benny-yj7pqMichael the Protector of Israel, Stand's Up, Stand's Aside, Allowing the Antichrist and Beast to Invade Israel.

How interesting. I love these studies!

" Heaven is my throne and the Earth is my footstool". "Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet". The time is close!

The RESTRAINER will not be REMOVED by God... but it is like "CATCH (withhold) and RELEASE (free)" by/of the RESTRAINER in God's appointed time... the same analogy... Amen.

As I’m watching this my thought is whatever instrument God uses to do HIS will the ultimate source is GOD

Once again Joel you layout the scriptures in a very precise and thorough way…thank you for the way you teach with humility….there is indeed a good case to be made that it is the Archangel Michael…I love how you describe these heavenly battle scenes like something out of marvel..I have a chuckle and want popcorn with a front row seat…maybe in our eternal future we will learn more of these things…I do hope so…be blessed ❤️🙏🍿🥤

Seriously excellent teaching, brother. Thank you.

Rev 7:1 and after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Agree with the interpretation of the “he” being an angel… first it is written in lower case, whereas if it is the Holy Spirit it would have been a capital letter “He”.. secondly.. above scripture shows how our Father have angels restraining things.. after all, they are His hosts doing His will.. love in Jesus

Great channel and well articulated.

To simplify this: the devil is the one being removed while the Arch Angel Micheal is the remover. The restrained is the one being removed.

@benny-yj7pq

10 ай бұрын

And know you know, WHAT restrains, says Paul. What does Michael restrain? The coming of the Lord? No. The coming of the Antichrist? No. Paul does say, that the revealing of the AC, who hinders the coming of the Lord, is through the miracles of Satan. But that is the falling away, that comes first in the first 3 1/2 years and that triggers the revealing of the AC, not the casting down of Satan out of Heaven. The fact is, no one has to be removed, but contrary, the Greek word says, that the Antichrist comes out of the midst of the earth. Do not be deceived.

Himself up in the temple to be worshipped as god. All that will be necessary for him to get to that place will reveal who he is. So the tribulation needs to start 3.5 years before that. We don’t know the day or hour but will know the season. To many things will take place that will open are eyes to the truth through the Holy Spirit that will guide us into all truths, not just some truths. I believe God wants us to know and understand in time. So if you seek the truth even about end times you will find it.

And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” Genesis 6:3

I just listened to this whole message and came to say to Joel that he is my favorite bible teacher when I saw i wrote a comment earlier this year which means I already heard the whole thing and didn't realize it. These are such good teachings that they are easy to listen to again. In my opinion, the restrainer is either Michael or Satan. I thought Satan before this vid. Now I've added Michael. Lol

Goodness, such intellectualism.

@kenklein9228

10 ай бұрын

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(Psalm 90:12-17) So teach us TO number our days, That we (may) apply our hearts unTO wisdom. Return, Oh Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign, how long? And let it repent thee concerning thy servants. Oh satisfy us (early) with thy mercy; That we (may) rejoice and be glad all our days. And counting: ...1st day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...2nd day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...3rd day/night season of the WorkWeek ...4th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...5th day/night season of the WorkWeek, ...6th day/night season of the WorkWeek (double up): ...for the morrow’s morning IS the Seventh day/night sAbbAth's season. Emet ❤️

@robertofunk673

10 ай бұрын

7th day?what are you implying?

Rev 9:4. What are Gods people doing in the middle of the tribulation having the seal of God on their forehead? They were protected !!

Very informative. Thank you. There is also interesting takes on the Greek in 2 Thess. One has it saying, "He who restrains will do so until out of the midst it comes..." So nothing is taken out of the way. So what comes is the revealing of the Lawless One.

Would appreciate a link to Dalton's teaching on the restrainer please ❤️🙏

@heatherklees9583

10 ай бұрын

Came here looking for that…

@JoelRichardson

10 ай бұрын

Google Mystery of Israel Reggie Kelly and Restrainer.

@debrajohnson545

10 ай бұрын

​@@JoelRichardsonTY

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time.

@johntandy8918

10 ай бұрын

So I guess that's a NO then

who (the Son)being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had [c]by Himself [d]purged [e]our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high - Jesus upholds all things by the word of His power - Gods power in the consummation of all things Hebrews 1:3

Very precise. I love the way God has helped you brother Richardson to navigate through the scriptures humbly and soberly. The restrainer can be either angel Michael or satan himself.

@seanc2788

10 ай бұрын

The restrainer is the church. Once we are raptured, then all hell breaks loose.

@marleneguarneschelli9156

10 ай бұрын

@@seanc2788difficult for any of us to know for sure; however, as was mentioned by another in the comments, the Bible always refers to “the church” in the feminine sense - in the case of Paul, the restrainer is referred to in the masculine form using “he” as opposed to “she”. So I don’t believe that Paul is speaking of the church (believers) or he would’ve said “she”.

@seanc2788

10 ай бұрын

@@marleneguarneschelli9156 That's irrelevant the gender. It has everything to do with the real Christian story. Once you tap into that you will see that the church is removed. It is the only method of communication God uses on a daily basis to the world today. Angels and other signs are rare and infrequent. God works through his people and once that is gone, the world will have a Christian free platform. Why do you think they hate the Christians by the 5th seal. Because they have spent the prior 4 seals living in a world blaming the Christians for their misery in life. That is why believers who convert after the Tribulation are hunted down, because by that point, the world hates them.

I've also concluded long ago that Michael is the restrainer. I also believe a strong Scriptural case can be made that Michael is not a created angel and is, in fact, the Christophanic Angel of the Lord.

@jayjay-bz3rr

8 ай бұрын

Michael the Archangel as the Restrainer is an assumption on your part. Paul never stated that. You assume that Michael is the Restrainer because Joel Richardson said so.

@2Timothy2.15

8 ай бұрын

@jayjay-bz3rr Incorrect. I don't know when Joel started leaning toward Michael, but I came to this conclusion 12+ years ago. Here is why. When Paul told the Christians of Thessalonica about the revealing of the “man of lawlessness”, the one “Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God” (2:4) he was obviously alluding directly to the Prophet Daniel (Daniel 11:36-37) who spoke of the exact same event: Dan 11:36-37, “And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods … for he shall magnify himself above all.” Paul even continues by saying, “Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?” (2:5). Told them what things? The things that were written in the Book of Daniel. Up until then, the Old Testament was their only Scriptural reference to draw from, and after Paul reminds them that he told them these things from the Book of Daniel he then continues, “And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time” (2:6). So, given the reference to the end of Daniel 11, what else does Daniel say that would have caused them to remember? A few verses later Daniel writes: Dan 12:1, “At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book.” Archangel Michael has watched over the people of God throughout history, but a time would come when Michael would “stand up" or "rise up." What Joel didn't mention, however (and this is key for me) is the fact that the Hebrew word for “stand up” in Dan 12:1 is “amad” (H5975) and it means “to stand aside or stand still, stop (moving or doing), to cease.” We know that this is the intended meaning because after Michael does this we read about “a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time.” And wouldn’t you know it, this is exactly what Jesus said would happen after the Abomination of Desolation in Matthew 24:15,21, “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place … then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” Why? Because now “the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped …” (2 Thess 2:3-4). The fact that Daniel describes great distress after Michael steps aside is no coincidence, and I believe that this is precisely what Paul reminded the Christians of Thessalonica about so that they would remember. Because of this, I firmly believe that the Restrainer is the Commander of the Hosts of heaven, the one and only Archangel.

Neither the Holy Spirit the grace of the Holy Spirit, nor the church can be the restrainer in 2 Thessalonians 2:7 on Greek grammatical grounds - or on scriptural grounds. Because of the way Greek works, whoever/whatever the restrainer is would have to be a single entity having the same Greek grammatical number and gender as the restrainer has. The Greek grammatical number and gender of the restrainer is singular and masculine - which is why some translations use language like "he who now restrains". Spirit is grammatically neuter in Greek and both grace and church are grammatically feminine, so it can't be any of those. It could be an angel or government in a broad sense, both of which are grammatically singular and masculine - or something else that is grammatically singular and masculine. Although the Thessalonians apparently knew, that knowledge has been lost. Nowhere in Scripture does either the Hebrew text or the Greek text apply a masculine or feminine pronoun to the Holy Spirit. Only neuter pronouns are ever used. That's because Spirit in both languages is neuter and the biblical writers always followed standard grammatical rules when referring to spirit. In the NT, the only time the Greek text uses a masculine pronoun in connection with the Spirit is when referring to the paraclete - but only because paraclete is itself a grammatically masculine noun. For a detailed discussion, see _Greek Grammar and the Personality of the Holy Spirit,_ by Greek scholar Daniel Wallace. It's available online in PDF format at no charge. In Latin, however, Spirit has masculine grammatical gender and that's the path by which it came into English as 'he' and 'him'. Pronouns used in an English _translation_ of the Bible - which is not the Bible itself - have no bearing on the meaning of the Greek text. Likewise, the scriptural reason is that both the Holy Spirit and the church continue to be present throughout the tribulation period. Nothing in Scripture supports the notion that the Holy Spirit is ever present without grace. The saints are repeatedly referred to throughout Revelation and Jesus assured _us_ (not 'them', as in the supposedly differentiated 'tribulation saints') of the Holy Spirit's continued support then:- _when they bring _*_you_*_ to trial and deliver _*_you_*_ up, do not be anxious beforehand what _*_you_*_ are to say; but say whatever is given _*_you_*_ in that hour, for it is not _*_you_*_ who speak, but the Holy Spirit._ (Mark 13:11 RSV) Note all the references to 'you'. Other suggestions have included: • the Gospel (grammatically neuter), but that fails grammatically; • Satan/devil/serpent (all grammatically masculine), but that fails scripturally (Matthew 12:26; 2 Thessalonians 2:9); and • the prostitute of Revelation 17:1 but that fails on grammatical gender grounds, since the Greek noun πόρνη (porné), meaning 'prostitute', is feminine. What's going on in Revelation 12:7-12 is a war in heaven, not a restraining action on earth. Moreover, that battle and Satan's fall from heaven happened in Jesus' day (Luke 10:18, John 12:31). Evidence suggests the 'mystery of lawlessness' (2 Thessalonians 2:7) - which isn't Satan as such (2 Thessalonians 2:9) - is still being restrained. What 2 Thessalonians 2:7 plainly says is that the restrainer must leave the scene, before the man of lawlessness emerges (2 Thessalonians 2:8). The man of lawlessness will be slain by the returning Lord Jesus but, in the interim, will be empowered by Satan (2 Thessalonians 2:9-10). Empowerment by Satan wouldn't be possible if he's no longer on the scene.

@Mathetes1

10 ай бұрын

Great summary. Thanks

I’ve been told, for as long as I can remember, that the holy spirit will not be here, after the rapture.

I'd like to listen to Dalton's message you referred to at the beginning. The one where he talks about the restrainer. I can't find it.

Revelations 12:7-12 - I thought this was a verse that reflected satan was cast out of heaven back when he tempted Adam and Eve. From what you are saying, satan still has access to heaven and is going to be cast out in the final 3.5 tribulation? Help me understans.

@scott596

9 ай бұрын

Yes that's correct. Satan the Great Red Dragon the Great Serpent that Old Serpent the Devil Satan Lucifer Allah the Fallen Crescent Morning Star Cast Out of Heaven, Was Cast Out of Heaven Partially, and Satan still has Access to Heaven and the Counsel of God and Jesus Christ to Accuse the Brethren, and to ask Permission to Persecute the Believer's as he did with Job ! He will be Cast Out of Heaven Permanently loosing all Access to Heaven and the Counsel of God and Jesus Christ. And he will be Cast Alive down to the Earth for a Short time. Then when Jesus Christ Return's Satan will be Cast Alive into the Pit for a Thousand Year's, and Released again for a short time to Lead astray a Third of the population, and then Satan Lucifer Allah will be Cast Alive into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone Forever where the False Prophet and the Beast from the Bottomless Pit are, and Cast into Outer Darkness Forever and Ever Without End. When Satan is in the Pit for a Thousand Year's, the people will look upon Him and say, This is the Man Whom The Nation's Did Fear ?

Which video is it that Dalton did on the restrainer?

Agree with yourself

Please post link to Daltons video on the restrainer. Have looked and looked? What is the title?

The word arise I've read can translate not just as get up, stand up, but to move out of the way...He gets out of the way, to arise out of the way. So the Arch angel michael moves out of the way.

@benny-yj7pq

10 ай бұрын

No, Michael comes to help Israel. Paul tells you who hinders WHAT, the coming of the Lord. Stick with the text and do not read something into the text, what is not written. The "he" in verse 7 is a masculine article in Greek, that belongs to the Lord or the Antichrist, no others are mentioned.

@JCneverFails

10 ай бұрын

@@benny-yj7pq you're using a limited understanding of the greek to interpret scripture and your conclusion is it's either Christ or the Anti-christ? Thanks for narrowing the scope. How about taking Jesus' advice and using scripture to interpret itself. Using Daniel 12:1 1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered. Notice it says EVERYONE. It's not just for Jews and Michael is the he who arises that kicks off a time a great distress (great tribulation). People get caught up in bad dispensationalism thinking that end tim events are only for Jews. And come up with weird theology like the Antichrist is his own restrainer.

@benny-yj7pq

10 ай бұрын

I never said, that the Antichrist is his own restrainer, nor did you understand my comment. Everyone of Daniel's people is very clear, who they are. The Great Tribulation is 3 1/2 years and not 7 and is a worldwide event (Rev 3:10).

@Locustandhoney

7 ай бұрын

The Greek word in question can also mean sit down or to cease/desist. Michael’s war is ongoing and has been being waged since creation right? So it only makes sense that when he stops restraining or takes a back seat that the adversary then seizes his opportunity to destroy the saints.

@benny-yj7pq

7 ай бұрын

@@Locustandhoney As usual, you create a wrong argument, to twist the whole message of Paul. The subject of 2.Thess 2 is not, who restrains the Antichrist, but His arrival, advent with the Rapture and what hinders it (verses 1-3). It is not about WHO hinders, but What (neuter) hinders IT, namely the coming of the Lord. You twist the whole subject to take somebody out of the way, but that is not scriptural, to take is a far stretched meaning, out of the way is an invention, not in the Greek. And the previous masculine article has to relate to a Person, mentioned before. This can only be the Lord or the Antichrist. The AC is the one, who hinders the coming of the Lord, he has to be revealed, before the Lord can return. The Greek word means to come, to arise or to go. The best translation is the literal one, He (the AC) comes out of the midst.

Is it Jesus? In God’s time. We have Jesus. We are to be sheep 🐑 of Jesus. Jesus and church together married as one ? Then we go to marriage supper 🍽 and in this time we inviting other's to come also. The invitation to Supper. When he was in his tomb he folded his napkin and place it where he has Risen for when he comes back. He send us the helper the Holy Spirit. So he is within the time of Our Father in Heavenly realm.

One thoery is the restrainer is the abyss, as the beast arises from it

The church is always spoken of in the feminine and the restrainer is spoken of in the masculine. So, the restrainer isn't the church. Ultimately, the restrainer is God. If Satan is any influence then it's because he belongs to God and even God commands him as he sees fit.

@marymcmullen5644

10 ай бұрын

Agree

@seanc2788

10 ай бұрын

The restrainer is the church. Once we are raptured, then all hell breaks loose. God can't be the restrainer, because he cannot be removed from anywhere, otherwise he is not God.

@wjdyr6261

10 ай бұрын

@seanc2788 got scripture? The church is always spoken of in the feminine. The restrainer is in the masculine. God can do whatever he wants, including removing his restraining power. Has nothing to do with a removal from a space or area

@seanc2788

10 ай бұрын

@@wjdyr6261 Gender is irrelevant. It's all about the true Christian story. Once you understand it you will be set free. God can't contradict his own nature, otherwise he is not God. He can't be removed from anywhere. So that means the Holy Spirit is still on the earth during the Tribulation. How else do men get drawn to Jesus and convert after the church is gone? The Holy Spirit has to remain at work on this planet. When the church is removed that creates the economic collapse around the globe that is necessary for the Anti-Christ (man of lawlessness) to arise and start to take control. When 40 million people get removed from the USA, and mortgages, cars, credit cards all default within 30 days, that will send the stock market into a depression from which is probably won't recover. Once the USA implodes then the rest of the world gets taken down with it. That allows the Anti-Christ to partner with the Vatican to stabilize the new world monetary base. But it all starts with the hard working tax paying Christians who are suddenly not contributing to the economy. And that by the way, is why the world hates believers who convert after the rapture, because everything will be blamed on the Christians who are not around to contribute to the 33 trillion dollar debt payments this country has amassed.

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. His own Time is the Restrainer ! His own Appointed Time, Appointed By God and Jesus Christ !

The Restrainer Paul speaks about may be the restrainer Isaiah speaks about in 42:14.

One of the definitions of falling away is rebellion (God will give them over - they reject the truth (Jesus) and believe the lie (Satan/ac) and worship his image ( idolatry- 1JN5 ) Rev 13 Just thinking out loud :)

Can someone explain the belief in a 7 year tribulation?

Hey Joel, good to see you. Hope all is well. So i wanted to ask you if you have ever searched thro your massive app? Sending us to an older vid about the restrainer may prove difficult without a vid title, location, section heading. When i open the app there are half a dozen options. -When i open just 1 of those: Maranatha Study there are 8 SECTION titles. When i open just 1of those there are another 5 Section titles. If i open Daniel section it has 16 titles. So Is it possible to give the name of that vid please.? Tks much.

After reading and praying- the restrained is Michael. The Archangel messenger of God. So God is withholding until he sends Michael

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

The Restrainer ? 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. His own Time is the Restrainer. His own Appointed Time, Appointed By God and Jesus Christ !

Is it my app, didn't see the study notes in the App Please

@jeannet7443

10 ай бұрын

They aren't always posted concurrent with the video. I just check back later. 😊

@themaranathaplumbline2023

10 ай бұрын

@@jeannet7443 THANKS

@cjohn316

10 ай бұрын

Joel have you ever read the book, The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea, by Tim Cohen?

If the Holy Spirit is the restainer and leaves at the rapture how would anyone be saved after the rapture since it's the HS that draws them and is an inner witness they are saved.🤔

@jamescole3152

10 ай бұрын

Actually after the rapture the wrath of God begins. So no one is saved. Just like the days of Noah and Lot. Rev 6 shows the wrath of God starting. The day of the Lord. The world has watched as Christians were killed. They saw the rapture.

@mikehaney6922

10 ай бұрын

@@jamescole3152 I think Stormy is talking about those who believe in the "pre trib" rapture of the HS and church and why it makes no sense for all those left behind having no chance to be saved.

@stormypuurl

10 ай бұрын

@@jamescole3152 I'm referring to those who believe pre trib

I like the way you presented various views and lean towards the most logical views, but keep an open mind. I wish God didn’t make this so hard to discern, but He must have reason for keeping the details hidden for now, perhaps to keep His plans hidden from Satan, until the last minute.

@seanc2788

10 ай бұрын

The restrainer is the church. Once we are raptured, then all hell breaks loose.

@benny-yj7pq

10 ай бұрын

@@seanc2788 That is right, the intercessors and the prayers of the church restrain the spirit of the Antichrist, who is still working. When we are raptured, according to Mat 24:29-31 after the Great Tribulation, all hell breaks loose, because the moment we are raptured, the great earthquake happens, the cities of this world are destroyed, big tsunamis roll into the land, large stones of hail are falling to the earth, the planet is moving to and fro, even coming out of its place, mountains and islands are moved, the surviving people see the Lord on His throne and hiding fearful in caves, wonder what will come upon them. That is what the bible says, study it. After the AC is coming, there will be 3 1/2 years of peace, you can read it in Dan 8:23-25.

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. His own Time is the Restrainer

This version muddies things

👀&👂🏼👂🏼 ... What is it that evil is trying to get rid of in the World, today⁉️ What has always been in the cross hairs of the enemy⁉️

Can christians attend family secular parties?

sWORD Spirit and Truth -- 7th day sAbbAth's Seal -- Covenant IN Loyalty The Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah= Spirit= AbbA Creator Father. Yahu'Sha Hebrew Anointed SonShip= sWORD and Head(ROCK) to body(stones) of congregation covenant loyal (be)living IN earth, that adhere TO His voice: (Yashra'Al) ...The Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign saves. Emet ❤️ Praise and thanks to the Most High Ahb Yahu'Ah for His 'Saving Will' Testimony IN His anointed Hebrew Son Yahu'Sha Messiah. Prayers, blessings, and peace (restoration) of the ❤️, for those that adhere TO His voice, covenant, and commandments. Love you Ahb Yahu'Ah sovereign of my breath, soul, and the blood IN my veins (DNA).

I’ve thought it’s Gods moral agency in the minds of mankind.

@user-mh9rs9ti5h

7 ай бұрын

Edom is MANKIND IN THE SEPTUAGINT BIBLE. JEREMIAH 7, GOD DON'T HEAR PRAYERS FROM THE ABORTIONIST, IDOLATORS OR THE OPPRESSORS NOR THEIR INTERCESSORS PRAYERS ARE NOT HEARD OF BY GOD FOR THEY NEVER REPENTED YET JEREMIAH 7 STIPULATES. LUKE 13;3 WITHOUT REPENTANCE WE SHALL ALL PERISH. I AM A EAGLE PROPHET OF THE TRIBE OF SIMEON. The RESTRAINOR is the Bread of Life, OUR Holy Spirit, saw the Holy Spirit represented by Shredded wheat standing waist tall waves his arms and leads me around the corner to a wheat harvest, on Purim in the year 2020. We fly soon.

I think the restrainer is either Alfred E. Nueman or Peregrine Took (as noted on the outside of your laptop computer).

But the Holy Spirit came at Pentecost and was not there at one time

The blood of Christ. When the arch of the covenant is unearthed and the blood 🩸 of Christ that was spilled on the arch of covenant connection is broken - Ron Wyatt believed he found in a chamber in the cave of Zacharia at Cavalry where Jesus was killed and pierced and his blood and water spilled into the earth, his theory is VERY compelling !! There is an entire documentary about it called The Abomination Of Desolation on KZread

A restrainer in law is an order, not necessarily a person.

"Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness-the son of destruction-is revealed. 4He will oppose and exalt himself above every so-called god or object of worship. So he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. 5Do you not remember that I told you these things while I was still with you? 6And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed at the proper time." In context it's the Coming of the Lord Jesus and the gathering that is being restrained by the revealing the antichrist and the apostasy.

@patriciadavid3197

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree WHAT is being restrained is Christs Return/ Day of the Lord, by reading in context from the beginning of the conversation.

I appreciate your balanced approach, but I think you are mistaken. The restrainer is the Holy Spirit, not that He will be taken out of the world or out of the Church, but His influence as the One who convicts the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8) will be removed so that the Antichrist will be unrestrained in deceiving the world into following and worshipping him (Revelation 13:4-8). Michael's job, according to Daniel 12:1 which you mentioned, is to protect God's people Israel, which he will do when he stands up (for them) at the time of the great tribulation. It's not to restrain the false messiah before that time.

Why do you disconnect the last week of Daniel from the other 69 weeks?

@JoelRichardson

10 ай бұрын

The Scriptures do.

Why do we need to endure to the end if we're going to be raptured?

@lindseywalker6925

10 ай бұрын

If there is a pretrib rapture, what happens to the dead lost as the graves are bursting open? Do they stay in the grave? What happens to Israel? Are they left to fend for themselves? By the way, this FAI guy is either lost or confused.

@logiciskey7

10 ай бұрын

That is when the rapture occurs AFTER the tribulation

@seanc2788

10 ай бұрын

That's correct. The only thing we are enduring is to the end of the Age of Grace. Which is probably within the next 36 months.

@ringlora2

10 ай бұрын

@@seanc2788 All the best..we can't let evil win

@seanc2788

10 ай бұрын

@@ringlora2 I have news for you. Jesus is who defeats evil. We just sit on the horse and ride back and watch. Notice that our robes are not stained with blood. That's because the battle is over in 3 seconds and we don't even get dirty.

I thought that the gods and objects of worship are restraining him from being in the temple

@josiahkerr2900

10 ай бұрын

He says “NOW” you know what’s restraining him, indicating that he just explained what restrains him in the previous verse verse 4

@benny-yj7pq

10 ай бұрын

@@josiahkerr2900 The one in verse 4 is the same as the one in verse 7, Greek "ho", a masculine article, refering to the AC.

He got it right. I tried to explain it to pre-fibb and they wanted to scrap

Im leaning on your theory Joel of Michael being the Restrainer

@scott596

9 ай бұрын

I like Michael as well ! However. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. The Moadeam Appointed Time's.

@jayjay-bz3rr

8 ай бұрын

@@scott596. The Apostle Paul never clearly stated that Michael the Archangel is the Restrainer. That is an assumption on your part.

@scott596

8 ай бұрын

@@jayjay-bz3rr that's Correct My Friend, there are only a few Choices ! Daniel 12:1-4 Michael the Protector of Israel, Stand's Up, Stand's Aside Allowing the Tribulations of those Day's to come to pass, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. The Falling Away Comes First When that Man of Sin the Son of Perdition is Revealed Sitting in the Temple Showing Himself that he is God In his own Time. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time ! The Moadeam Appointed Time's ! That He May be Revealed Sitting in the Temple in his own Time, His own Appointed Time, Appointed By God and Jesus Christ ! And of Course The Least Likely is the Holy Spirit is Removed ! Not Possible or Absolutely No One could be Saved through Faith through the Power of the Holy Spirit, as Jesus Christ said Flesh and Blood has not Revealed this to you, but My Eternal Father in Heaven, Revealed Who Jesus Christ is ! Through the Power of the Holy Spirit ! Upon this Rock I will build My Church, the Rock of the Revelation of Jesus Christ through the Power of the Holy Spirit. Without which No One can be Saved ! And of course as many teachers Teach, Satan Lucifer Allah is the Restrainer, Who continues to Restraining until he Satan Allah is finally Cast Entirely Out of Heaven and Down to the Earth and having a Little Time, stops Restraining, and Empowers the Antichrist False Prophet the Man of Sin the Son of God and Empowers the Beast from the Bottomless Pit Apollyon Abandon, He Empowers the Antichrist with a Demon, and the Beast from the Bottomless Pit with a Beast from the Bottomless Pit. And they Lead the Army of Darkness Carrying Black Flag's with one word Punishment to Invade Israel and Stop the Sacrifices and take over the Temple and to Kill the Two Prophet's of God and Jesus Christ. These are the Best Options so far ! Which one is your favorite opinion My Friend ?

@scott596

8 ай бұрын

@@jayjay-bz3rr the Beast evidence from Paul is 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. His own Appointed Time, Appointed By God and Jesus Christ. The Moadeam Appointed Time's ! But which Option is your favorite option My Friend ! Hopefully Not the Holy Spirit !

Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as He in the book of John

Michael the Archangel

@jayjay-bz3rr

8 ай бұрын

No. The One who restrains is not Michael the Archangel in 2nd Thessalonians 2:3-7. The Restrainer is the Holy Spirit .

@thetreasureinthefield

3 ай бұрын

@@jayjay-bz3rrdid you listen to this video?

Could the apostasy be the rejection /departure from the truth Rebellion against God They believe the lie -God gives them over

Hi, my brother love to listen to you. I am however going to disagree with you on this point. The answer is in the text. He is the man of lawlessness. What is restraining lawlessness? The law. This is the reason the falling away will first take place. The church will become lawless. By taking away God's law in our consciousness and each person do what is right in his own eyes the world will become lawless. The reason that is first something then a He is that it is God's law in the conscience. By denying the conscience you will deny God and will remove Him from your life like He is being removed from the government, schools and our houses. Lawlessness paves the way for the man of lawlessness. Think about the mystery of lawlessness. It is all in the text. It will be like the days of lot and of Noah.

@mikefortier3476

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Satan has been working on the lawlessness, and it shows in society and in the church

@maryrose6203

9 ай бұрын

The Church has already fallen away. They've chosen pastors and teachers that tickle the ears and false doctrines.

I feel that God is the restrainer. He allowed Satan to test Job. He has a hand of protection and eventually that hand will be removed

@stevenwithaph9785

10 ай бұрын

So Satan could not do anything until God allowed it

@joeeliyah2090

10 ай бұрын

You are 100% correct! Christ has the keys . Revelation 1 "18 and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades." Christ is restraining the antichrist in hell right now.

@MamaNewGuinea

10 ай бұрын

​@@joeeliyah2090are you saying the antichrist is in hell now?

@mcgeorgerl

10 ай бұрын

I suspect that is correct. All along there have been appointed times and times upon which we had to wait until they were fulfilled. I can only accept that out Lord God is the one who is making these determinations. I suspect also that there will be a time when He removes Himself and the full force of Satan is turned upon Israel, the saints and mankind until the time appointed for the Beast (1260 days) is up. In scripture, this is described as God "hiding his face" until such time as He decides to act.

@joeeliyah2090

10 ай бұрын

@@MamaNewGuinea He is, Christ is restraining him in hell right now. Revelation 11 "7 And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit[a] will make war on them and conquer them and kill them, ..." Revelation 17 "8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come. " When is the pit opened? Revelation 9 (The 5th Trumpet 1st WOE) "And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit. 2 He opened the shaft of the bottomless pit, ..." Beast can not come out of the PIT until it is opened at the 5th Trumpet. The anti-christ is most likely NIMROD. (((Keep in mind the 6th seal has not happened yet...))) Revelation 6 " 12 When he opened the sixth seal, ......15 Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave[d] and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, 16 calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, " The anti-christ is most likely NIMROD.

What verses would lead you to believe that the Antichrist is not revealed until three and a half years into the tribulation? It seems that Daniel clearly states that the Antichrist will sigs a seven-year agreement with the many and that's when he is revealed

@JoelRichardson

10 ай бұрын

He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” Dan 9::27

@seanc2788

10 ай бұрын

That's correct. The Anti-Christ comes on the scene in Revelation chapter 6, when the white horse is released from the barn. That way the Anti-Christ can lead the world from the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation. He doesn't get possessed by Satan until the mid-point of the Tribulation.

@onejohn2.26

10 ай бұрын

@@seanc2788 I personally think the Antichrist is Satan incarnate

@onejohn2.26

10 ай бұрын

@@JoelRichardson Exactly I believe the temple sacrifices will begin as part of this seven-year agreement with the many and that is when the Antichrist will be known Watch for a mass UFO landing and then you will find out who the Antichrist is who who I believe is Satan incarnate

@TheRgordon16

10 ай бұрын

It doesn’t say he is the one who actually signs any covenant or that he himself is the architect of some peace treaty. Rather it says he shall CONFIRM or AGREE with an already existing treaty. And when they say he will not be revealed until the middle of the Week, they mean the defiling of the temple and his demand to be worshipped as God, that is when his true nature is revealed as the antichrist. The first 3-1/2 years he is NOT seen as the antichrist, but just a king of a particular nation who makes war and conquers his enemies. Eventually he will invade Jerusalem and that’s when the great tribulation period begins.

Correction: The "Abomination of Desolation" is set-up 1290 days after the daily sacrifices have been terminated (at ~3.5 years). 1290 days places the Abomination near the end of Daniel's "Last 7 Years", NOT the middle,

@Jo-Fe

6 ай бұрын

The Abomination of Desolation is, according to Daniel, halfway through the 70th week i. e 1260 days after he confirmed the Covenant with the many.

@alanlietzke5738

6 ай бұрын

@@Jo-Fe My Bible disagrees with you. The "Abomination of Desolation" is set-up 1290 days after the daily sacrifices have been terminated (at ~3.5 years). 1290 days places the Abomination near the extreme end of Daniel's "Last 7 Years", NOT the middle.

@Jo-Fe

6 ай бұрын

@@alanlietzke5738 And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him. ” -Daniel 9:27

THEE saints ARE induring that evil that came out of the bottomless pit that was opened by Urial I witnessed that Fact he came in the clouds and he had keys in his hand and within the same hour or so he opened thee bottomless pit and the apostasy is underway as we carry on

Whoever the restrainer is (Holy Ghost, angelic being), he is clearly from God. I believe the more important truth, which is constantly misunderstood, is from who, or what, the restrainer is removed. It seems pretty clear that the restrainer is removed from one man; the man of lawlessness. i.e. Judas. Not removing restainer from an area or the world. Just one man. Just like Judas, "...and satan immediately entered him".

@scott596

10 ай бұрын

2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. 6. And now you know what is Restraining that He May be Revealed in His own Time. His own Time is the Restrainer,. His own Appointed Time, Appointed By God and Jesus Christ.

Paul used other phrases in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 to describe this same antichrist, such as “the son of perdition,” (vs. 3), “ the mystery of lawlessness” (vs. 7), and “that Wicked” (vs. 8 Kjv). In Daniel’s parallel prophecy, this same abominable horror is also called a little “horn” (Daniel 7:8); and in the Book of Revelation it is labeled “the beast” (Revelation 13:2). Almost everyone agrees these words and phrases apply to the same thing. The question is: Do they all apply to only one “Evil Dude,” as is commonly taught, or do they point to something wider and deeper to something most prophecy teachers aren’t telling us about? Notice carefully, Daniel did not say the little horn would be a man, but rather it would have “eyes like the eyes of a man” (Daniel 7:8, emphasis added). Eyes of intelligence. In the Book of Revelation, the same horn is called “the beast.” Here’s a question: How does Daniel 7 define a beast? There is no need to guess or to pull an interpretation out of a that. An angelic interpreter explained to Daniel, “.. .the fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom on earth (vs. 23). What is a beast? A man? A giant computer? No. A beast is a KINGDOM! That’s what the angel said. And once again, just like the angels in Acts 1 who watched Jesus ascend to Heaven, this angel had his theology straight. Let’s go back to Paul’s prophecy. A careful study of 2 Thessalonians 2 actually reveals the utter impossibility of “the man of sin” applying to only one Mr. Diabolical. First of all, Paul said that in his own day this very same “ mystery of lawlessness [was] already at work ” (vs. 7). Thus this predicted antichrist was already becoming active in the first century. Paul was also very emphatic that this “mystery” would continue all the way down to the second coming of Jesus Christ (vs. 8). Put the pieces together. How could this refer to only one human being? He would have to be 2,000 years old! When the Roman Empire collapsed in 476 A.D., there were still rulers in the East. One of them, named Justinian, believed the key to peace in Europe was the uniting of all religions under the leadership of the Roman Church. So he issued his famous decree which made the Pope the legal “Head of all the Holy Churches.” This decree fully established the papacy’s political power over all of Christianity in Western Europe. Justinian’s decree went into effect in 538 A.D.,“ which was shortly after 476 A.D.! That key date-538 A.D.-marks the beginning of the time of the antichrist. Roman Empire is the restrainer, the papacy is the antichrist

"but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way." If Satan is now restrained by being in heaven, and not cast down to earth, where his arrival would reveal the antiChrist, then he is fighting to stay in heaven where he can accuse the brethren night and day. The revealing of the antiChrist is then a consequence of his defeat, forcing his hand in a last desperate act. Makes sense, but Michael is not removed, he is victorious (Revelation 12:7-9). So satan is not being restrained now, he is where he wants to be, and needs to be defeated to be removed, and Michael is not taken out of the way, he is victorious. Satan is not restraining evil now (1 Peter 5:8), but it is his removal from heaven that seems to reveal the antiChrist. Neither seem to fit with Thessalonians, where one who is presently restraining evil on earth needs to be removed (from earth?) for evil to be fully revealed. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated, God bless, Colin

Michael is he who restrains!! It also says for the Elects sake,, he hath shortened the days to ""5"" months!!

Start with the basics...something is removed. What does the Holy Spirit do? Convicts the world of sin and unrighteousness, so that people accept Jesus Christ and salvation. Will there be people saved during the Tribulation ? Yes there will be...so the Holy Spirit won't be removed. Then what is the most likely answer to the question "what will be removed"? The Church...the Holy Spirit working through every believer in the Church. That means there will be a rapture before the Tribulation.

The Biblical context and meaning of "TAKEN OUT of the WAY" does not mean "TO REMOVE"... Remember the original manuscript was in the Ancient Greek Language and translated only into ENGLISH... most appropriate translation is "RELEASING" ... The analogy... The Accountant is WITHHOLDING your Tax Account for some time then afterward RELEASING your assessments, assets, and liabilities in due time... or a Policeman is WITHHOLDING you for questioning, but afterward, you are been RELEASED... the same analogy... The RESTRAINER is not going to be REMOVED but he (male gender according to the scripture) is "WITHHOLDING the I.D. of the AntiChrist and the Power of Satan UNTIL eventually he will be RELEASING the I.D. of the AntiChrist and the Power of Satan be allowed to inflict his persecution in the RIGHT TIME (Due time/God's appointed time)... Archangel Micah-El/Michael who once defeated and threw Satan (former Lucifer/Highest Angel) out of Heaven... I believe he is the one who is still now WITHHOLDING the I.D. of the AntiChrist and Satan's Power from unleashing his anger to God's People and Michael will be the one who will be RELEASING in due time (in God's appointed time). In conclusion, the CONTEXT of the passage 2 Thessalonians 2:7 is not about the Restainer "HOLDING and REMOVING"... but instead... "WITHHOLDING (hiding) and RELEASING (revealing) of/by the Restainer... it is like "CATCH (withhold) and RELEASE (free)." Glory, Praise and Thanks be to God in Christ Jesus' name... Amen and Amen...

To me your time line is off quite a bit. Referring to the devil being loosed for a short time as the last 3.5 years of the tribulation doesn't add up. Rev 20:3 refers to this time as at the end of the 1000 yr reign. Now if you are not on board with a literal 1000 year reign then yeah I guess it makes sense. Also, the fallen angels of Satan, the ones who created the giants, God has reserved in chains in outer darkness unto the judgment of the great day. I'm a little confused to say the least.

The Restrainer is most likely Arch Angel Michael

Interesting scripture In Thessalonians and you know what is restraining HIM so that HE may be revealed at the proper time. The One who now holds HIM back will continue to do so until HE is taken out of the way The He is not the Holy Spirit The HIM and HE is the same person- the anti christ The One who now restrains him is God- in Jesus Daniel 9:24 Seventy sevens are decreed for your people and your holy city to Restrain transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place. Who restrained transgression and put an end to sin- Jesus The devil is thrown down to the earth to roam free and is no longer Restrained as it is said in Daniel 9:24 He is set free to do his mischief. I believe this is the correct interpretation.

If “He” who restrains is the Holy Spirit indwelling the “church” or “Bride-of Christ” wouldnt the personal pronoun SHE instead of HE be used??? Pre tribulationists always say it is us, The Church, The Bride of Christ that is restraining by the Holy Spirit indwelling us. Another thing, although I personally have believed for many years that it is Michael that restrains I have now thought that it could be Jesus as the One Worthy to OPEN the scrolls and that as He opens them one at a time and ALLOWS judgement NOT WRATH to fall on mankind, as He opens that last seal and the scroll UNFURLS the antichrist takes his power Thoughts???

@scott596

9 ай бұрын

No God speaks in the Masculine, in Fact All Believer's are Refered to as Son's of God ! Their is Neither male nor female All son's of God ! Just as in Genesis The Fallen Son's and Daughters of God the Watcher's came down unto the son's and Daughter's of Man and Married them and had Children with them. No it says the Fallen Son's of God the Watcher's came down unto the Daughter's of Man and Married them and had Children with them. Even though We know that they we're both Son's and Daughters of God the Watcher's, from Addisonal Writings, Books, and Written on Temples Even written on Temples hundreds of feet below Sea level.

Inshallah

Anyone trying to understand the rapture mentioned in II Thess 2 : Try substituting RESURRECTION for RAPTURE. No RESURRECTION, NO RAPTURE. Read Daniel 12: 1,2,3.....theres your rapture. Daniel said there'd only be 2 resurrections. One for the just, one for the unjust. If pretrib rapture doctrine is true, this would mean that God hid it from the church for 1500 years. Pretrib rapture rescue is a pulpit doctrine. Its Darbyism.

HIS Name Is [YEHOVA SAPAVOVT] HIS ELoHIM The Most HigH Our Mighty Creator: Glory To The Alpha And Omega: Glory In The Highest Our ELoHIM And Savior: Glory To The Lion Of Judah: Praise YAH, YEHOVA, HalleluYAH: The Wise Will See YOUR NAME; ~ Micah 6:9 HIS NOT: lord god mod jesus mesus: The Voice Of The Most HigH Calls The City And The Wise Will See YOUR NAME; " Pay Attention To The Rod And Who Prepare. “ Micah 6:9 I Have Been "YEHOVA" Your CreatoR Ever Since The Land Of Egypt; You Know No CreatoR But ME, And No SavioR Exists Besides ME. ~ Hosea 13:4 If You Believed Moses, You Would BELIEVE M E, For He Wrote ABOUT M E. But Since You Do Not Believe What He Wrote, How Are You Going TO BELIEVE WHAT I S A Y ?” ~ John 5: 46-47 There Is No One Who Calls YOUR NAME; To Wake Up And Find Strength In YOU. ~ Isaiah 64:7 THE LIES END: This Is Proof From My Armenian HOLY BIBLE. Judgment Of Babylon: And I Will Not Accept Anyone's Mediation: “The Name Of Our Savior Is “YEHOVA SAPAVOVT. HE Is The HOLY One Of Israel:” ~ Isaiah 47:3-4 YEHOVA Is The Same Forever: ELOHIM NAME Can’t Translated: >Names Never Translate. Your Name Is The Same In Every Language In The World.

And why is "the man of sin" the antichrist, an individual??? The Greek does not say that.

I have a new theory that runs parralel to much that's being said. In the Book of Daniel Chapter 9, it's clear that the angel who is speaking with Daniel is Gabriel, as he is named. However, the one who appears in Chapter 10 is described like Jesus from Revelation Chapter 19. In typical Jesus fashion, He doesn't answer Daniel's questions directly, He simply tells him not to fear. It is He who was fighting against the Prince of Persia (a demon), and was returning to do so again. He also must resist the Prince of Greece this time around as well. He states that only the angel "Michael" had joined him in this fight. So, could it be Jesus himself who is restraining (albeit with angelic help)?

@dwellinj1513

10 ай бұрын

Are you saying that Jesus (God the Son) needs help from an angel in defeating a demon?

@tonuiben4136

9 ай бұрын

You are almost right except that the person talking to Daniel in chapter 10 is Gabriel. Many people don't realize it, but Daniel encountered two persons in this chapter. The glorious person in the middle of the river( who is Jesus) and one ' like the sons of men' who is besides the river and who came to give Daniel explanation. So Gabriel is the restrainer helped by Michael. This is the one portion of scripture that should clear all doubts as to who the restrainer is.

@tonuiben4136

9 ай бұрын

You are almost right except that the person talking to Daniel in chapter 10 is Gabriel. Many people don't realize it, but Daniel encountered two persons in this chapter. The glorious person in the middle of the river( who is Jesus) and one ' like the sons of men' who is besides the river and who came to give Daniel explanation. So Gabriel is the restrainer helped by Michael. This is the one portion of scripture that should clear all doubts as to who the restrainer is.

@vwbustube

9 ай бұрын

@@dwellinj1513 His words not mine. Does He NEED our help?

@dwellinj1513

9 ай бұрын

@@vwbustube - No, not Jesus. A glorious heavenly being for sure. I never said Jesus needed our help. Where did you get that idea?

Interruptions are too many sorry

Yahshua must Conquer in heaven and earth when he Comes The accuser of the brethren is kicked out of heaven. To the Earth. Where he knows his time is short and he will be revealed. Working through the lawless one with all lying signs and great wonders. Satan did not want to be dethroned from heaven. Where he could accuse us. And be hid. Then you see what tells us how he will deceive the world. When he is working through the ant messiah brother.