Belgium - "a country invented by the British to annoy the French" Charles de Gaulle.

@moniquevanhooreweder6456

5 жыл бұрын

Leopold I was an English widower of the British princess Mathilda wasn't he???

@shawnchristopherwhite3271

5 жыл бұрын

@Monique Van Hooreweder - he was a German prince (a Coburg, uncle of Queen Victoria) who was the widower of Princess Charlotte who was the heir to the British throne but who died in childbirth. The next in line turned out to be young princess Victoria who would become queen years later.

@cinderelladevil1687

5 жыл бұрын

@@moniquevanhooreweder6456 the monarchies are in a world of their own. They do not care a fig peoples worries.

@jvdp9660

5 жыл бұрын

Well without the French Belgium wouldn't have been there at all.

@SundayHorse1

5 жыл бұрын

Belgium is not a "nation" except in the very loosest sense of the term, i.e. if we make it synonymous with "state", in which case the word nation itself becomes redundant. Belgium is a construct of two distinct nations into one state. Farage is right and the guardian by attempting ro take him out of context to male him look foolosh just shows its own ignorance. As usual.

"Belgium is not a nation, its an artificial creation" Hey, that rhymes!

@gaydolfhitler6310

5 жыл бұрын

It sounds like a rap

@Mario_1611

5 жыл бұрын

Krusty Krabs is unfair Mr. Krabs is in there Standing at the concession Planning his oppression!

@RemarhBsoul

5 жыл бұрын

All 'ion" words rhyme. That's the easiest rhyme scheme in the English language

@andreperusso

3 жыл бұрын

All nations are artificial creations. There are no nations in the natural world.

@Mar-vu8el

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreperusso China

Two halves of the country that dislike each other intensely? Sounds familiar

@AnonYmous-dh2zt

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder who *Bagpipes Play in the background*

@g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314

5 жыл бұрын

Korea?

@vagrant9414

5 жыл бұрын

Remembers Scotland in the back of his head

@davidcozmostendevadkjr8954

5 жыл бұрын

Flanders and Wallonia dosen't hate each other. They have a goverment, a royal family, a captial and some common cultures. So what's the problem with division of regions? I can tell you that here in Denmark we are also divided in regions with different accents.

@pbskillz9130

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidcozmostendevadkjr8954 its just u have no mational identity, no core values u arent really a country

"Belgium is a not a nation its an artificial creation" Thats a hard bar ngl

@sifuhotman1300

7 ай бұрын

I live in Belgium and he's right. Freedom for Flanders ASAP! Free the North!

@aidygooner

5 ай бұрын

​@@sifuhotman1300or reunification with the Netherlands which is what should happen. The Luxembourg region of Belgium should reunite with the country of Luxembourg and then the rest of Walloonia can either Dutchify or join the French.

@Calle28

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, its amazing that someone from the UK doesnt see how hypocritical that is.

Isn’t the UK an artificial construction? _Four_ separate parts that speak different languages and intensely dislike each other.

@adamisAswsomeish

5 жыл бұрын

Speakn diffrent languages. What are you chatting?

@ghostlierExpert

5 жыл бұрын

Not really intense is it. It's not like if you go to a different part of UK u are treated any differently. It's more friendly competition in sports and the like. Like idk which you are from but whenever I've been to another part of the UK ive never experienced "hatred" towards me. Some light piss taking at most

@ghostlierExpert

5 жыл бұрын

@Conor Quinn wasnt disagreeing with that, I don't like or agree with farrage, just disagreeing with this man. Fair enough if you don't like UK

@wanderer1955

5 жыл бұрын

Yes but not artificial.

@wanderer1955

5 жыл бұрын

@@ghostlierExpert And you don't like Farage because???

Let's ask Ireland and Scotland about how natural the UK is

@Eadric_The_Wild

5 ай бұрын

Ireland isn't part of the UK and Scotland voluntarily signed the 1707 Act of Union. In fact, Scotland wanted it even more than we did because they bankrupted themselves with failed colonial expeditions. We've been unified for over 300 years, and before that we shared a monarch. England and Scotland have fought countless wars together and built the biggest Empire the world has ever seen together. Today, we share a language, a culture and Lowland Scots and English people are genetically identical. Also, most Scots want to remain part of the UK. The only Scots who want to leave the UK are Leftists - and the only reason they want to leave the UK is so they can join the EU. The SNP is not a nationalist party at all, it's a far-left socialist party. Real Patriotic Scots, Scots who are actual Nationalists, want to remain part of the UK.

@diegorodrigovelasquezmeniz8026

5 ай бұрын

The UK is an artificial creation.

@dognut8211

5 ай бұрын

​@@Eadric_The_Wildthis

@NVDuster

5 ай бұрын

​@@Eadric_The_Wild absolutely

@markieboy1983

5 ай бұрын

@@Eadric_The_Wild Biggest load of nonsense I've ever heard. You, sir, are a fantasist.

At least Belgium has one football team rather than having 4

@geminix365

5 жыл бұрын

Because they are aware UNITED Kingdom is a union of 4 nations

@jmasters7515

5 жыл бұрын

geminix365 I know, I only mentioned it because that is exactly what he criticised Belgium for

@luxair1997andTAP

5 жыл бұрын

Well said!!

@TheGrandy123

5 жыл бұрын

🤣

@geminix365

5 жыл бұрын

@@jmasters7515 but Belgium pretends to be a nation...

Doesn't he realise that every nation is an artificial construct?

@wanderer1955

5 жыл бұрын

Please explain your insanity.

@Loostyc

5 жыл бұрын

@@wanderer1955 nations were created in the late 18th and 19th century. Before that we can't really talk of nations.

@hiddenknowledge2012

5 жыл бұрын

@@Loostyc There was empires though, which all the nations were made from. The heritage of the people is still there, it's just a different name. Doesn't mean you shouldn't have any pride in your country. Nations have existed far before the 18th century too, so that's totally wrong.

@nikoskanak6551

5 жыл бұрын

@@hiddenknowledge2012 People in these empires didn't have national consciouscness though. Nations did appear in the modern era. National groups of people existed long before but they are something entirely different.

@zrc6116

5 жыл бұрын

A nation exists wherever a people does. England, as the name suggests, is the land of the Anglo-Saxons. It has existed for as long as our people have. There is no Belgian people.

Being a Belgian myself, Nigel Farage is saying aloud what I think but cannot say aloud without ostracism.

@neverlookback1244

6 ай бұрын

Are you from Wallonia or Flanders

@Unity_Work

6 ай бұрын

but you are saynig this and there is no ostracism so what do u mean

@bluesclues132

6 ай бұрын

@@Unity_Workhe means off line in person .

@AlexanderLittlebears

6 ай бұрын

Belgium is composed of 2 nations: Dutch and French.

@jesusbermudez6775

6 ай бұрын

Nigel Farage may be right in saying that there are tensions between Wallonia and Flanders, but there are tensions everywhere. In the UK there is plenty of tension between the Scots and the English.

Despite the irony, he is right. Belgium is basically country which used to be part of the Netherlands, half of it speaks French and was created by the British as a "buffer state" between France and Prussia/Germany. And it was really a buffer state, Germany went through Belgium every time they wanted to invade France. The word "Belgium" comes from a Roman province named after the people who inhabited that region. It has the same etymology as the Dutch word "verbolgen," which can be translated to "angry." Yeah, the Belgians are quite angry at each other. :)

@waiz0231

4 жыл бұрын

" let me tell you about your country" Lol stupid anglo

@wyverntheterrible

2 жыл бұрын

Surely it was named of the 'celtic' Belgia tribe that originate from there (and populated southern england in the 1000c BC

@butwhoasked1821

Жыл бұрын

I'm afraid you're quite disconnected from reality. First of all, all nations are created at some point, and eventually disappear at another. Belgium was created in 1830, almost 200 years ago, far more than most nations in the world. No country has ever risen from ashes from a unity that tied the people together: the unity was built through generations of people living under a stable and common banner. Moreover, the borders of a nation were never clearly defined. But the spans are so big in comparison to human life that it is tempting to believe that "it is as it should be" Also your vision of history is poor and so incomplete First and foremost, within the Holy Germanic Empire (or Holy Roman Empire, in english), one must make the distinction between the "spanish netherlands" Spaanse Nederlanden/Pays-Bas espagnols, which for a while contained the netherlands, parts of actual belgium, and luxembourg (but someone you believe luxembourg is a nation, though ) and netherlands as we know it now. The capital was Brussels (so then, isn't netherlands part of old belgium according to your logic?) They weren't united by brotherhood or an abstract ideal of nations, (most were illiterate and were just obeying their landlords), but they got united by the dinasty of Hasbourg, which federated (again, not a nation) through MARRIAGE the different provinces of the region. During that time, pretty much all of what's above france and germany - the latter included - was a part of the Holy Germanic Empire, and there were only states, "provinces" you could say, governed by a member of the high clergy. It is the case of "Liège", one of Belgium's current french province, which for 9 centuries was apart of the HGE (netherlands didn't even exist as a nation!) before the French revolution when it became part of france. It had always spoken french as a part of the HGE for a millenia, and no one questioned it despite that? Then, belgian revolution in 1830 in brussels, they take their independance, and, mainly due to Antwerp/Anvers and Liège/Luik it became the second nation in terms of industrial developpment during the revolution of the same name. Belgium is as much a nation as england, france, the united states, netherlands, korea, viet-nam or kenya, and yes, like any another nation, the unity it implies is fragile and ephemerary. Don't slaughter the complexity of history with such a naïve comprehension of what a "nation" is. Prussia was one the strongest nation of their time, and look now, would you say lituania and poland (which was split between russia, prussia and the SPANISH NETHERLANDS you were referring to are not nations? Would you say that Kaliningrad, formerly prussian, is not russian?

@enthusiastisch1922

Жыл бұрын

@@butwhoasked1821Belgium Ultranationalist moment

@Ed-om9xy

Жыл бұрын

@@enthusiastisch1922 What a witty answer! The other guy does a historical deep dive, you come up with 30 characters. WONDER WHO IS MORE BELIEVABLE

So there we have from Mr Faredge's own lips that he is in favour of Scottish independence, the independence of Wales & the reunification of Ireland. At last, there will be four nation states in these islands. Never, ever thought I'd agree with this fella.

@ghostlierExpert

5 жыл бұрын

Why would you want that

@wanderer1955

5 жыл бұрын

Please tell me what part of that clip was the bit where he mentions Scotland Wales and Ireland.

@wanderer1955

5 жыл бұрын

@Conor Quinn let's hope they do.

@terrypietru8012

5 жыл бұрын

You wern't listening. He a no point said he was 'in favour of it' he just said 'it was'.

@stevetaylor4672

5 жыл бұрын

@@terrypietru8012 Do you actually understand English?

As soon as Farage mentions ”look at the election results” the guy in the back stopped laughing😂

@JL_Lux

Жыл бұрын

Now let’s look at the results lol a mess

@Jade-tf5kb

Жыл бұрын

@@JL_Lux COVID

@artvandelay6457

Жыл бұрын

@@JL_Lux Elaborate

@jfm0155

6 ай бұрын

Guy in the back is from Farage's own party

@jfm0155

4 ай бұрын

@@Jimmy-me3fe Welsh, then UKIP, later Brexit Party.

England, a country where french was the language spoken at courts for like 300 years and has more french words than old english words.

@koenstrobbe8101

9 ай бұрын

@@kruotube Sorry, wrong. At least 40% of modern english are words originating from french (and yes, you can search studies on that if you are inclined to do so). french is a roman language (roman languages are spoken in france, spain and italy predominantly) and has few words from non-roman languages.

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

Hush don't tell him.

@Afura33

4 ай бұрын

@@msmissy6888 euh no? Explain yourself then.

If what he said is true then surely he wants to break up the UK? I thought not

@EthanfromEngland-

3 жыл бұрын

The UK isn't a country. Its a political union so what's your point?

@Elijah-cy9do

6 ай бұрын

​@@EthanfromEngland-what is the meaning of a country?

@rtavan

5 ай бұрын

​@@Elijah-cy9doThere isn't a unified parliament. There are Scottish Welsh northern ire English parliaments. The only difference being that there is one king

@Elijah-cy9do

5 ай бұрын

@rtavan no such thing as an English parliament. While Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish Parliaments/assemblies are just devolved institutions running on power given by Westminster. Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish Parliaments only came to existence in the late 1990s

But Scotland can't leave its artificial creation.

@SurvivorIce

5 жыл бұрын

They voted stay couple years ago.

@marcysss93

5 жыл бұрын

@@SurvivorIce yeah that was before brexit

@SurvivorIce

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcysss93 so what? They voted stay in UK and this must mean honoring any UK national results and not use Brexit as excuse to hold another scottish referendum 5 yeats later.

@cjeam9199

5 жыл бұрын

SurvivorIceland Yeah I think the people of Scotland might have something to say about that. Like that they want a chance to express their opinion again after the country they’re a part of makes the biggest constitutional change in half a century. It’s not, “I have altered the deal, pray I do not alter it any further”.

@anthrmal9647

5 жыл бұрын

@@SurvivorIce so what? Conscious of the fact that Scotland is vastly pro EU during the referendum the British gov made it clear that in case of independence they would veto Scottish entry into the EU, and what happens one year later? We'll see how the next referendum pans out

Dude , every nation is artificial creation

@simeonsimov12

5 жыл бұрын

@Luís Filipe Andrade It is. It doesn't matter on what it is based , it still an abstract community . It is something that people imagine exists much like a fictional story . Nation is an imaginary order.

@willmahoney1545

5 жыл бұрын

Semka7a so if something is abstract its imaginary? Social hierarchies are abstract and so is culture but neither are imaginary but language is more concrete as a unifying characteristic of a nation

@jonasstoerfeuer4193

5 жыл бұрын

@Luís Filipe Andrade You could argue that their are no ethnic groups at all. Those "groups" always overlapped, and we all come from the same people. The concept of nations started getting popular around the 18th and 19th century; before that nationalities didn't exist.

@diavasmamevroxi

5 жыл бұрын

@Luís Filipe Andrade All of the things you listed are artificial creations. A nation is an artificial creation, that is that

@diavasmamevroxi

5 жыл бұрын

@Luís Filipe Andrade My dude, nation is a construct and a pretty new one, it doesn't matter what they share(language is also a construct and changes based on external factors), the concept of a nation did not always exist and flourished in the 19-20th century. People in the past did not care about nation, there were only two things, barbarians and us, empires were multicultural and the only thing that mattered was if you were a citizen. Greeks may have spoken the same base language and believed in the same religion but they were different tribes, with different cultures and political systems and only considered themselves Hellenes in the Persian invasion because it was practical. They still hated each other and had many civil wars, sometimes because they wanted to keep the independence of the city states. We may be both right wingers and have similar beliefs my dude, that doesn't mean that "the right" is not a social construct

I’m from belgium and I approve this message

lmao what does Farage think about switzerland? 4 different languages

@axsirlotl4334

5 жыл бұрын

Probably doesn't think it's a nation

@user-fi2fk2ei7o

5 жыл бұрын

See USA Hundreds of languages there

@stevetaylor4672

5 жыл бұрын

He thinks cheese

@joris8032

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-fi2fk2ei7o no just English and some southern parts Spanish

@arkaseth

5 жыл бұрын

@@joris8032 there's Cherokee and others as well

0:58 foreshadowing...

Could say the same thing for the United Kingdom

@user-bl4oq7fd8d

5 жыл бұрын

"We want to live in nation states, not false artificial creations." WTH Why do they accept the UK then? lol

@apefromthekitchen

5 жыл бұрын

UK is not a nation. It's a union.

@tommyshelby2872

4 жыл бұрын

England, Scotland, Wales and North-Ireland are nations in the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom is a union. Belgium is a country but no nation.

@EthanfromEngland-

3 жыл бұрын

no, because the UK isnt a country. Its a political union. read a book.

@robertdarcy6210

Жыл бұрын

@@EthanfromEngland- a political union, I.e. a false artificial creation

Sounds like England Scotland Wales and Ireland …

As a Belgian is can confirm he's right.

@s.v.o.579

8 ай бұрын

Something tells me you don't even live close to the language barrier and thus have no idea about actual communautairy issues at all

@joostpersyn

7 ай бұрын

ma gast

@sifuhotman1300

7 ай бұрын

True

@lander681

7 ай бұрын

As Belgian? Do you mean 'as Flemish' or 'as Walloon'?

@briteclanofficial6638

7 ай бұрын

nederlander hier? dus split luxemburg 50/50?

I think he might be talking about his own nation

@nickbell4984

4 жыл бұрын

I'm English and I 100 percent agree

I love Nigel’s courage under withering fire. The guy has a spine of steel.

@boereherp8705

5 жыл бұрын

He got caught on misusing funds. Way to choose your role model :-)

@marcoantoniogodoy9526

5 жыл бұрын

Farege forget it: United Kingdom is NOT a Nation UK is 4 Nations..or 3 Nations... when Scotland would say in a future referendum :"Yes the independence"

@Jones578

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah a spine of steel and a brain the size of a point of a pin.

@doppies2001

5 жыл бұрын

what a Plonker !

@3506Dodge

5 жыл бұрын

He admits that his wife left him because of the pressure of his political work.

‘Enjoy the European election next year!’... ha ha ha... ironic.

@SamuriLemonX18

5 жыл бұрын

"I'm MC doesn't know what irony is!"

@tomo24

4 жыл бұрын

Haha uk is out, how ironic

@marksavage1108

9 күн бұрын

You do know that even though the UK were leaving the eu, it was still forced to take part in the eu elections. The UK didn't see the point and refused to name an eu commissioner, the eu then fined the UK for not conforming to its idiocy. voting in something you just voted to leave.

UK is also not a nation.

a guy coming from a union ruled by a queen wants to tell people why being ruled from brussels is against the concept of free nations.

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

One which two members both Northern Ireland and Scotland supported remain yet the UK still left. Minorities in the UK have frequently been shafted as far back as before the union.

@enthusiastisch1922

Жыл бұрын

Belgium has a king what are you on about?

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

@@enthusiastisch1922 bro why you don't read a history book for once, the power in Belgium is not coming from the king.

@mrsentencename7334

2 ай бұрын

@@Afura33maybe look at the current world instead of history book. The king in the uk doesn’t have any power either

@marksavage1108

9 күн бұрын

@@oscarosullivan4513 Without the leave voters in Scotland and Northern Ireland, remain would have won. minorities???? we all get one equal vote.

Based and he spoke truth only

and now UK is dying

@marksavage1108

9 күн бұрын

How? or are you just telling lies?

R we gonna ignore that their tension is literally almost non existent and him saying that it’s not a nation because a French and Dutch side is literally just to divert the situation he tumbled up???

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

Why would he. He is a gombeen man who was privately educated and a failed City banker.

@lander681

7 ай бұрын

We are not violent, but many of us Flemish want our independence.

The UK is also not a nation.

@VoodooMadMike41

5 жыл бұрын

Well no it isn't. It's a union of countries.

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

@@VoodooMadMike41 an union of countries where no one wants to be in ^^

May I refer you to Benedict Anderson's "Imagined Communities"? You'd discover that an "artificial creation" is the VERY DEFINITION of a nation!

@newage1161

5 жыл бұрын

Not an argument

@atgx7950

3 жыл бұрын

@S. I. V. It would split as parts of France and The Netherlands. What does Germany have to do here, भाई?

@marksavage1108

9 күн бұрын

You confuse `country`` with nation. an artificial creation ``which the voters agree with`` is a nation, when the voters detest it, its just a country.

Pfft. I live in Belgium and feel like a Belgian. Just because you don't speak the same language doesn't mean you can't live together. Look at the Scottish and English. Both different people, and yet they form a nation together. If we start naming all peoples and ethnic groups, then half of the world's countries would be split!

@Demonex118

5 жыл бұрын

@@kincaidwolf5184 They indeed don't have a seperate language. They have two namely scot and gaelic.

@ikporu

3 жыл бұрын

I am Flemish, not belgian.

@acesgames5318

10 ай бұрын

@@ikporu Your id card says something different

@sifuhotman1300

7 ай бұрын

Vlaanderen vrij aub!

@acesgames5318

7 ай бұрын

@@sifuhotman1300 Nee danku ik heb liever dat den economie nog niet meer instort.

"We want to live in nation states, not false artificial creations" ... umm, Nigel? That's like saying "I want to live in London, not the capital of the UK"!

@divinesleeper

5 жыл бұрын

London city state when?

Wasn't their talk of another referendum for Scotlands independence and northern Irelands reunification with the Republic of Ireland?

@rubeniscool

5 жыл бұрын

@@frederickcubbins Ireland was united all the way up until 1920. Whether it was under British rule or not is not the point. Ireland was a single entity until home rule was granted to all but 6 counties in the north. As for reunification, there is definitely a growing sentiment amongst the Northern Irish since their views on Brexit have been completely ignored and feel that they are just bargaining chips in the UKs quest for self destruction.

@bmcg8888

5 ай бұрын

​@@rubeniscoolIreland was never United under British rule that's what all the rebellions were about

Says sb from a country that literally consists of 4 parts, that dislike each other intensely...

It's ironic that a Britishman states that

Nige relatively accurately describes Belgium, but the same goes for the UK, Spain, France, Switzerland, Italy, which are all ancient nation states in Europe. Then globally, China, Canada, USA, South Africa, Australia etc are all comprised in the way that Farage describes Belgium.

@pawion

5 жыл бұрын

Actually there are 6 governments in Belgium : 1 federal 3 regional (Flanders, Wallonia and Brussels) 2 communities (German and French, the Flemish one merged with the regional government of Flanders)

@Wendeta-hq2cp

6 ай бұрын

None of the countries you described were made as a geopolitical tool. Belgium should be part of the Dutch Republic/Netherlands.

@nuzayerov

6 ай бұрын

No, China, Canada, USA and Australia are mostly homogenous speaking a common language and no hatred towards each other.

@sanspeter9925

5 ай бұрын

@@nuzayerov clearly you've never heard of Quebec

@jirachi-wishmaker9242

5 ай бұрын

​@@nuzayerovChina is Mandarin, Mongolian, Tibetan, Turk

As Kenny Everett once said .... Everybody knows where it is but nobody wants to go there.

@s.v.o.579

5 жыл бұрын

scoppio07 How do you explain the 2 million immigrant people That came to live here?

@Dave-hu5hr

5 жыл бұрын

@@s.v.o.579 African or European?

@s.v.o.579

5 жыл бұрын

Leigh Pemberton Mostly people with italian acestry. Also a bit of Poles and today more and more Turks and morrocons. With the war in the middle east, a couple of thousand syrians and afgans also.

strange to hear that from a person whose country is pretty much itself an artificial construction

@dkpirie

5 жыл бұрын

You talk a load of Bull, and sound very uneducated. Great Britain is not an artificial construction.

If only there were more Brits with his courage. Sadly, there is not...just cows following the other cows.

@kodiakandgrizzlybears3787

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@robertwilson8702

6 жыл бұрын

Nigel is a Russian fifth columnist you gammon.

@fornosaxon8179

6 жыл бұрын

I personally don’t agree with him.

@jimmylees8560

5 жыл бұрын

you mean sheep?

@marcoantoniogodoy9526

5 жыл бұрын

Farege forget it: United Kingdom is NOT a Nation UK is 4 Nations..or 3 Nations... when Scotland would say in a future referendum :"Yes the independence"

Belgium? You mean Southern Netherlands/Northern France/Northern Morocco?

@baskapteijn

5 ай бұрын

Lol Morocco

Such disrespect... And then, they will tell us that nationalism is not about hating other nations.

Then what it the UK ? A few countries within one country ? A gathering of countries ? What ?

@Ed-om9xy

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. And I'm British

@catmonarchist8920

Жыл бұрын

There is a strong British identity with lots of national institutions and media and we all speak the same language and have similar cultures. 40% of Scotland pretending to be Celtic doesn't change that.

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

@@catmonarchist8920 dream on lol

@catmonarchist8920

8 ай бұрын

@@Afura33 The UK is a country in itself and a unitary state with a single language. Far more unified than most states could hope to be.

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

@@catmonarchist8920 Ah yea awesome unification ^^ where 48% of the scots, 47% of the welsh and the 45% of the people in northern ireland wanna leave the UK 😉

I love so much non-Belgians saying Belgium isnt a nation. Completely ignoring that Belgium got its indepence from the Netherlands with Mostly french help. Afterwards the Brits helped us too. Also How they ignore That back in WW1 every Belgian, french or dutch, would proudly wave our tricolore and shout VIVE La Belgique or Leve België.

@s.v.o.579

5 жыл бұрын

J Bagger I also like you discussing his with a person that is born and raised in Belgium. I have direct access to What is going on here.

@s.v.o.579

5 жыл бұрын

J Bagger No I only stated I live here and I know what vibe hangs around here and Its deffinetly not a bad one.

@robinwaeytens5637

5 жыл бұрын

Let's be real man, we are not a nation, we are two different people groups, living along side but not with each other...

@brentvercauter6252

5 жыл бұрын

Well I am a flemish as well and the sentiment of Flemish people after the elections this sunday couldn't be filled with anger any more then it is now. Belgium isn't a nation, we are not one people. In 1906 a Walloon politician said, "Sire, Il y a en Belgique de Wallons et des Flamands, il n y'a pas de Belges." translated, "Your Majesty(the king), In Belgium there are Walloons and Flemings. There are no Belgians." South of the country, not our people, not our culture, not our ideology. Signed a displeased Fleming. Zuiden van het land, niet ons volk, niet onze cultuur, niet onze ideologie. Gesigneerd een misnoegde Vlaming. Sud du pays, pas notre peuple, pas notre culture, pas notre idéologie. Signé un Flamand mécontent.

@PsilentMusicUK

5 жыл бұрын

@@jbagger331 Nations are obsurdities and the universe will be better off when the sun goes nova and wipes such meaningless concepts out of existence.

Farage is the only person in that room that knows the definition of the word nation... Belgium is not a nation at all, it is a state Free Flanders

@Ed-om9xy

Жыл бұрын

Let's hear that definition!

Nigel Farage👍👍👍👍👍👍

Imagine showing your lack of historical culture in front of a camera and the rest of european politicians….

britian is tired of not constantly being at war and managing colonies.

@johnmarston4012

5 жыл бұрын

Wrong. It's the rich that think this way. The people don't want to be at war.

I love how I get recommended a video titled “why Belgium isn’t a country” while watching this 😂

Every nation is artificial.

@BaumerPaulGefreiter

Ай бұрын

👍

Imagine being a British nationalist and calling another country "not a nation". At least Belgium isn't separated from part of itself by water and is only comprised of two distinct regions instead of four.

@marksavage1108

9 күн бұрын

The Northern Irish have voted consistently to be part of the UK. Japan has a separation by water, does that make one island less Japanese than the other? Separated by water, combined with a democratic vote.,OH and two distinct regions instead of four???? do you mean the 4 countries making up the UK nation???

@NoName-hg6cc

2 күн бұрын

​@@marksavage1108 uk is not a nation

Could the same be said of Switzerland?

@JDushime

9 ай бұрын

Yes.

I guess he agrees then that Northern Ireland isn’t nation.

@thomashall8701

5 жыл бұрын

Correct, it is part of the UK

@drumclaypete

5 жыл бұрын

Thomas Hall That wasn’t the point of the comment, but yes it is part of the UK

@thomashall8701

5 жыл бұрын

@@drumclaypete Long may it be

@hello855

5 ай бұрын

No it would imply that the UK is not a nation.

The thing Farage forgot to add is that his 20th century historic hero overrun Belgium in a few days and forced the British to withdraw to France. Belgium pilots came to Britain and flew with the RAF and were decorated for bravery and many lost their lives, not bad for a country that is not a nation. Farage never supported British interests in his entire period as a MEP. But years earlier brave young Belgium men came and fought along side us in WW2, but we know Farage would probably run rather than fight for Britain, probably because he would have had more sympathy for the enemy, then and now (Russia) lots of cash splashed by Putin to this side of our politics.

and Luxembourg?

Then the UK is not a nation also

@sonofportsmith4435

4 жыл бұрын

The UK isn’t a nation, it’s a union.

@albanianorthodox1612

4 жыл бұрын

Soyboy detected

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

@@sonofportsmith4435 an union where no one wants to be in ^^

@marksavage1108

9 күн бұрын

More education of the ignorant. The United Kingdom is a nation formed from the 4 Kingdoms of Scotland Norther Ireland , Wales and England, the 4 kingdoms are 4 ``countries`` that make up the UK ``nation``.Go read a dictionary once in a while.

I cannot stop laughing.

And they still have better beers than the Deunited Kingdom😢

@mrsentencename7334

2 ай бұрын

That’s why we allow you to exist.

i honestly thought the guy in the thumbnail is mr bean

Coming in from America, BOG BLESS YOU, YOU Magnificent Brit

@marcoantoniogodoy9526

5 жыл бұрын

Farege forget it: United Kingdom is NOT a Nation UK is 4 Nations..or 3 Nations... when Scotland would say in a future referendum :"Yes the independence"

@marcoantoniogodoy9526

5 жыл бұрын

The Kingdom of Hawaii is an invaded Nation too.

@killman369547

5 жыл бұрын

+it's a me Mario. appeasement never works, ask Neville Chamberlain how that went. when will europe learn? appeasement is how you got ww2. giving iran what they want isn't going to make them stop their nuke project. they. hate. you. they want you and me everyone like us DEAD understand? has thousands of years of war against invading muslims taught europe nothing? i guess not. oh and btw, i'm canadian, not american. Reagan was right "peace through strength" is the way. .

:( Oh, Nigel :'(

But this man kinda got a point. Belgium has, with the exception of the king and the football team, no national values or culture. A man from Flanders once was asked how you interact with Wallonians and he just said: Well we just don't talk to each other. Is that really a solution? Belgium really should seperate

He is right. Greetings from a German.

Well how does it feel now? After Brexit?

@marksavage1108

9 күн бұрын

Brilliant, Why ?

Why doesn’t Wallonia re annex themselves to France and Flanders re annex themselves to Netherlands ? WTH

@Revens1

5 жыл бұрын

buffer zone.

@commando2113

3 жыл бұрын

Well wallonia don't wanna be part of france and flander's not from the nederland's

one thing is for sure the only reason why belgium is in my search history is because Nigel Farage said it wasnt a nation, they literally do nothing

Wrong Nigel there are 3 parts, you forgot the German side.

Surely one could say that Britain isn’t a nation as there are 4 parts to it which despite all speaking English technically have different languages and hate each other

@chalice7322

5 жыл бұрын

We don't hate each other though?

@milo5395

4 жыл бұрын

The UK is a union of 4 nations

@joriskemper5392

4 жыл бұрын

@@chalice7322 We don't either. There are pollitical clashes now and then but the people don't hate eachother.

@nickbell4984

4 жыл бұрын

I can say that we don't hate each other but I hate people like him.

@spartanx9293

2 жыл бұрын

@@milo5395 three I don't think Northern Ireland counts as a nation

Joke: Belgium should be divided or partitioned into 4 zones, Wallonia to France, Flanders to Holland, Brussels to the EU and German speaking parts of Belgium in its east to Germany. No joke: Belgium doesn't have its own language (French from France, Dutch from Holland and German from Germany).

@ImperialDiecast

2 жыл бұрын

neither does america

@overgeared

Жыл бұрын

a lot like switzerland then. the 3 french, german & italian speaking parts could easily be gifted to their apropriate neighbouring countries respectively

@JDushime

9 ай бұрын

@@ImperialDiecastIn the US, English is de facto national language. Belgium has zero.

@ImperialDiecast

9 ай бұрын

@@overgeared so who gets the german part? austria, germany, or liechtenstein?

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

@@JDushime de facto? For your information The usa has no "official language"

This is stupid you cant just claim Belgium is not a nation it has a prime minister, a government, a capital city, a system of law, a national anthem ALL THE COMPONENTS OF A COUNTRY. And saying that Belgium is divided in regards to Flanders and Wallonia, well you could argue the same for England and Scotland.

@doppies2001

5 жыл бұрын

and Wales and Ireland with English and Gaelic and a few other little Languages !

@olikerridge4807

5 жыл бұрын

using his logic , Switzerland is also not a country

@mathieuhenry678

5 жыл бұрын

Mario French and Dutch speaking Belgians don’t hate each other. The main problem is that the Flemish region being economically stronger, the Flemish people are unhappy with their region financially helping Wallonia. Flemish and Walloon people that live close to each other get along well of course, why wouldn’t they ? And of course there will always be some who don’t like the others but personally I think that is sad.

@italiangarbageposting

5 жыл бұрын

belgium has no reason to exist

@lander681

7 ай бұрын

With that logic, you could call the EU a country, are you ready to sacrifice your national identity for a European one? I'm Flemish and it doesn't mather to me that I have an ID that says different.

The situation in great Britain last I check they had the highest GDB post covid the start was hard but. Long term hum it look to be tough but better

Nigel tells the truth even if it hurts

@dennissimmonds614

6 жыл бұрын

Ngongo Gongo What about the £350 million for the NHS, When's that going to happen.

@user-pk4sd9dd2w

6 жыл бұрын

prat.

@peabase

5 жыл бұрын

Ngongo, I assure you, no Belgian feelings were hurt during this speech. Farage is not exactly breaking new ground. But it's interesting to see if the UK falls apart before Belgium does.

@Khalkara

5 жыл бұрын

Ngongo Gongo Nothing he has said was true here. ALL nations are artificial creations, no it wasn't the brits who did that but he is trying to appeal to nationalists who are under the impression the UK gets blamed for stuff it didn't do.

@user-pk4sd9dd2w

5 жыл бұрын

you obviously havent seen the record levels of corporate debt in Belgium

Yes he is right

He's right, Belgium isn't really a country but a collection of smaller and culturally different countries bound together in a Union under a monarchy from a cadet branch of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha that changed its name to sound less German and more local after WW1. Were as the UK is completely different.

@freddyfreaker9255

5 жыл бұрын

With his logic. The UK isnt a nation

@MarloweMcAngus

Жыл бұрын

This comment is underrated...

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

According to your logic the UK isn't a nation either lol.

@denzelhobbs9982

6 ай бұрын

​@@MarloweMcAngusit's the most braindead comment here

This aged very poorly for the Brits. Look at you now.

"Enjoy the European elections next year, they're going to be fun" Lord Farage could see into the future

@Ed-om9xy

Жыл бұрын

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@Drugov78

11 ай бұрын

What a shame fartage couldn’t see a few years further heh ? How is it going now ？

@flitsertheo

8 ай бұрын

@@Drugov78 I think Farage did see a few years further and what Brexit would cause, an opportunity to enrich himself. Anything else that would happen was just collateral damage.

I live in Belgium and the guy is 100 % correct

@maxrolland3148

10 ай бұрын

are you flemish or walloon?

@learnjazzmusic

6 ай бұрын

​@@maxrolland3148he is british

Belgium fought for it's own independence. I don't get this 'British creation' aspect of it. The French defended our independence in 1831 and the Brits just recognized the country. They created nothing....

I like how he acts like nation states arent artificial creations

@pebblepod30

2 жыл бұрын

But they often aren't. Some nations are created by external Geopolitical forces where the people of the nation don't share much in common (esp langauage but also shared identity before , culture, history, mainstream politics). Langauge & Consent to become a nation are probably thw biggest ones. I cant imagine being part of a country which has three parts that has the same lanaguge as your neighbour, but is instead forms a country with two other languages you may not speak. I am not Belgium, but if someone else is, i wonder how many Belgians instead want to become part of the neighboring country that shares their language.

@pebblepod30

2 жыл бұрын

Plus the political differences

@pebblepod30

2 жыл бұрын

And it seem to me to fit nicely, because Brussels counld become it's own Local City State & permanent location of the EU.

@WizardofGargalondese

2 жыл бұрын

@@pebblepod30 None of those things are necessary for a nation, language does not make people significantly different. All those factors are still artificial

@pebblepod30

2 жыл бұрын

@@WizardofGargalondese And by "greatest countries in the world" I mean countries like Bhutan, Singapore; but also Netherlands, Finland. Or the other direction: are you telling me that countries in a Country with Civil War, that the lack of feeling of common sharing made no difference? No, they have been wishing those other people were not part of the country, for many years. So I don't know what your getting at other than if you are just trying to sound cool or being purely theoretical with such a point.

"We want to live in nation states, not false artificial creations" The sheer stupidity of that sentence cannot be overstated

@mrsentencename7334

2 ай бұрын

He’s taking the Micky out of the EU how can you not see that? 😂 He’s using the fact Belgium was made by a bunch of elites from different countries for geopolitical gains as a gag

Belgium is a multinationl state as Switzerland, it is normal, you can study now

@andrewjones-productions

5 жыл бұрын

So is the United Kingdom, but English nationalists like Farage want to ignore that blatant fact.

@willyoujustrelax8236

5 жыл бұрын

The UK is pretty homogeneous... and sure, the Welsh, Scots, and Irish should have their own sovereign nations too. What's wrong with being a nationalist, besides the ignorant leftist rhetoric about it being extremist or racist??

@andrewjones-productions

5 жыл бұрын

@@willyoujustrelax8236 That depends on what form it takes. In Wales, it has traditionally been to describe people who are in favour of self-determination. In that respect, I would be described as a nationalist. However, the likes of Farage border on the type of nationalist that is far right and has intentions of restricting others and seeing themselves as somehow superior. He has made it clear that he wishes to dissolve the Welsh Assembly and even let the Welsh language die. Same word - huge difference. As for your comment suggesting that the UK is 'homogenous' suggest strongly that you have very little understanding of Welsh culture which is entirely different even though lifestyles may appear to be much the same. We may be a small country, but we are just as valid and are unique in our way.

@ironhand9096

5 жыл бұрын

Andrew Jones Productions I’d be very interested to hear where you got this information about Farage wanting to stop the Welsh language. Any chance of a reference as I’m studying classical European languages and the resurgence in languages that nation states have previously banned? History would definitely suggest tyranny starts with cultural uniformity and the repression of language & folk traditions.

@lander681

7 ай бұрын

Stop comparing Belgium with Switzerland, it is a lot more complicated than language alone. There is no 'Belgian identity'.

So should we bring up the whole Troubles thing, or...?

here here!!

Belgium is not a nation? Same is the case for the "United" Kingdom: Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales don't belong to England either, and don't form a cohesive union at all. So what's his point?

@malph123

5 жыл бұрын

Belgium is a cruel joke.

@chesterdonnelly1212

5 жыл бұрын

That's why we have our own national football teams, rugby teams etc. We are four nations within one sovereign state. Where is your Walloon football team?

@matthijshebly

5 жыл бұрын

@@chesterdonnelly1212 I'm not Belgian, and I don't like football

@matthijshebly

5 жыл бұрын

@@malph123 So is the UK

@dickpound2485

5 жыл бұрын

Scotland ain't a real country anyway, they're just English men in a dress.

'We want to live in nation states not artificial creations' yes let me just check on my crop of naturally occurring nations, oooooo the English are coming along nicely, and it only took a couple hundred years of warring!

@oscarosullivan4513

Жыл бұрын

More specifically the UK is a union set up through undemocratic means.

Ok. Just keep insulting people. It is very mature...🤦‍♂️ every country is an artificial construction. He should open a book. How many wars between each part of UK through history ? We love Belgium and its population 👍 From France 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵

@ikporu

3 жыл бұрын

Farage is not wrong here. Many belgians dislike how the country is run. EVERYTHING is split apart from the belgian soccer/football team. I, as a Flemish citizen, would love to see belgium split.

@ramudasanjuu

2 жыл бұрын

Anime pfp, opinion discarded

@lander681

7 ай бұрын

As a Flemish, I don't feel insulted by Farage.

@matiasparedes9152

2 ай бұрын

​@@ikporuNice lip service to your overlord Van Grieken. Keep it up!

Not all ethnic differences should be decisive. But we Flemish don't speak French, are (slightly) different ethnically, we don't share idols (authors, artists, celebs) and I don't have a single Walloon Freind. I read Flemish papers, I take the Flemish public transport and look to Flemish TV. I speak a different language, I learn others things in school and when I cross the language border I feel in an other country. There is no Belgian identity, and Flanders could become a nation itself. I think this articulates what a lot of Flemish people think.

@Ballykeith

5 ай бұрын

And most Flemish would prefer independence over retrocession to the Netherlands?

Britain is not a nation either: Scots & Englanders do not seem to like each other too much, and the former would prefer to break free from the latter.

As a dutch I can conform this

@heldertorres4296

5 жыл бұрын

So Netherlands what it is? A village? I can confirm this.

@heldertorres4296

5 жыл бұрын

@@rickvanveluw981 😂😂😂😂😂that the British that u so defend separeted 👌

@yarpen26

5 жыл бұрын

@@heldertorres4296 It's the westernmost part of Germany.

@ignacehelsen7609

5 жыл бұрын

As a Belgian, you know jackshit.

@bruvyo8180

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up cheesefase

Technically, it's not. - Also odd to see Verhofstadt get so worked up when you'd think he'd want Nationhood in Europe to melt away, so Belgium's lack thereof is a like a headstart to European Federalist.

@lolaevan8979

9 ай бұрын

He surely does want to see the EU as a federal state of some sort, yet Verhofstadt is Belgian first and foremost. His ambitions for the EU don’t change this fact.

@hammurabii.3173

3 ай бұрын

A federal republic state still needs states that federate. Otherwise there is not much of an advantage in you know ... federalizing.

I am a bit puzzled here. If Belgium is not a nation, according to mr. Farage, then why did England declare war on Germany in 1914? In one sentence he has stated that England is responsible for the outbreak of the Great War.

To understand brexit just look at the big money bankrolling Farage.😉

Nigel goes of the far end here although criticism to Belgiums leadership is correct. Because 'leadership' hasn't been there in the form of a government for over the last 500 days!

@Ed-om9xy

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure there are wikipedia pages on the Belgian governments since Independence. That's a start!

You could also say the same about Northern Ireland.

Belgium exists so that European powers have a place to settle their differences.

Brexit meanwhile…

@Afura33

8 ай бұрын

Yea didn't work out so well right lol

0:53 ...

But the UK is? Please.

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