Nicol Bolas vs Kozilek vs Golos vs Breya EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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  • @kurowasanabe
    @kurowasanabe4 жыл бұрын

    Trevor vs. Cyriaque, and also two other guys are there.

  • @armoric

    @armoric

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like Clayton actively helping Trevor, by preventing Jerkis from playing while also taxing resources from Cyriaque who tries to keep him relevant... only for him to keep wasting stuff.

  • @xpandor_6914

    @xpandor_6914

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dude cyriaque was one of the first to die

  • @redcar28
    @redcar284 жыл бұрын

    As soon as I saw Clayton choosing to begin going after Jurkis instead of Trevor, I said to myself "welp Trevor is going to win". Sure enough...

  • @MayhemMessiah

    @MayhemMessiah

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that was a terrible misplay. Trevor was already established as the strongest player on the board and Annihilator is essentially the only way you slow down Golos at that point short of MLD.

  • @RabidHamster89

    @RabidHamster89

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea, that was the some of the worst threat assessment I've ever seen.

  • @infamous0ne789

    @infamous0ne789

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had the same thought. One swing at Trevor would have changed a lot of the game.

  • @ashsmith1913

    @ashsmith1913

    4 жыл бұрын

    Trevor had a Glacial Chasm Edit: my bad, doesn't stop attacks

  • @redcar28

    @redcar28

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@MayhemMessiah Well, a second annihilator attack at Trevor certainly would have helped, but that's not actually where I saw the problem start. Let me explain. Basically, anyone who's ever faced off against Golos lands (or really most lands decks) knows that once the lands player gets to critical mass, it's hard to stop them. This means that either A) the table kills the player or B) kills enough lands that they can't get rolling long enough (which is hard to do since removal that targets lands isn't common and mass land destruction is verboten). Now, when Trevor got Glacial Chasm at 8:10, that started setting off alarm bells in my head. Basically, Trevor was attempting to head off one of the two ways he could be stopped; the smartest thing was for someone to spend precious land removal on chasm then the table dogpiles him while he spends time loaming it back. At 9:11, when Clayton played Spine of Ish Sah, I momentarily sighed in relief since it seemed like he was trying to enact this plan. But instead, he targeted...someone ELSE'S land removal. If I'm Trevor at this point, I'm dancing on the inside, since my opponents are canceling out each other's scant land removal, which makes me much more likely to win. Then of course, there's also the thing with Kozilek. Clayton did attack Trevor once, which went some distance towards solution B. But then he attacked Jurkis 2 times as well, instead of sending all 3 at Trevor. If he had done the latter, it most likely would have sufficiently nerfed Trevor to make him a little behind the other players at the table, but still with a chance for coming back. Instead, Clayton chose to essentially knock an ally against Trevor out of the game, yet again giving Trevor an out to one of the only ways of stopping him. tl;dr threat assessment is important and actively hurting non-archenemies is bad (you should help them instead!)

  • @Quroe_
    @Quroe_4 жыл бұрын

    You blew my mind when you connected the dots comparing Golos to Sad Robot.

  • @HighlanderHipster
    @HighlanderHipster4 жыл бұрын

    I keep strongly advocating to people I talk to that land hate is essential for checks and balances in EDH. I tell my playgroup and others that they should run blood moon, spreading seas, and non basic land hate at the very least. They say "they don't want to be mean." You just have to be able to interact with lands more then just one ghost quarter or strip mine. Look I'm always the "play more basics" guy, but I've become intentionally over the top greedy on my Mana basis to help show the problem. Hopefully change will come soon in peoples minds. Side note: Armagheddon can be a legit win con but if you sling it around without purpose, you aren't going to make friends. 👍

  • @peewee130946

    @peewee130946

    4 жыл бұрын

    I disagree on a lot of this there is no greedy mana base because you have to run 40 lands it doesn’t matter how many basics you play either you won’t be able to cast your spells consistently or you’ll never draw out of that blood moon in your three color deck because you didn’t draw your 15 basics. Also about the other land hate the issue is decks are already so stuffed full of other things that making room for a spreading seas just isn’t worth it to cut off one land and any problematic land can be answered by strip mine or ghost quart or tectonic edge or beast within or generous gift and finally armageddon is not a win con ever even if you ulamog then armeggdon somebody can still go land swords and now you’ve pissed everybody off because now the game just got reset for nothing

  • @trentonpreston3463

    @trentonpreston3463

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@peewee130946 Armageddon is very much a wincon in decks that rely upon artifact Mana or if you have a way of protecting your lands. Armageddon + teferi's protection or just simply having 7+ Mana in artifacts ends the game, and it's really just the other players own fault if they don't scoop to such a clear and decisive advantage. I don't understand why people get salty about mass LD when it's used properly as a wincon, but see no problem with the mono blue turns deck stuffing their list full of 15+ counterspells. I would rather someone have a stall card that can possibly just end the game

  • @peewee130946

    @peewee130946

    4 жыл бұрын

    trenton preston the people who hate land destruction also hate the Counterspell deck

  • @peewee130946

    @peewee130946

    4 жыл бұрын

    trenton preston and again that wouldn’t be a wincon I have 7 mana worth of rocks and armeggedon you don’t win it takes multiple turns to win after that

  • @peewee130946

    @peewee130946

    4 жыл бұрын

    trenton preston also they way you bring up counterspells and extra turns makes me think you get salty over those so does that make you any better than the people who get salty over Armageddon

  • @permafrost2064
    @permafrost20644 жыл бұрын

    This may be an unpopular opinion, but with Golos and Windgrace decks running around, i think its time we embrace land destruction.

  • @eliakimrodrigues

    @eliakimrodrigues

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is not unpopular - people just like to whine

  • @afspeellijstnaruto

    @afspeellijstnaruto

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@eliakimrodrigues Numot the devastator it is. Dragons and land destruction :D

  • @apophis456

    @apophis456

    4 жыл бұрын

    Run nonbasic land destruction like from the ashes or wave of vitriol. They let you replace the lands with basics, but most Golos decks (mine included) run only 1 copy of each basic land. Meaning that even though they get to replace their lands they don’t get any more than 5 max I’ve been telling my group to do this for a while with “my deck is built greedy until you guys punish me for it” which they haven’t.

  • @Starcraftgamer97

    @Starcraftgamer97

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@apophis456 I mean if you run in a consistent play group with varying decks or the same ones, then it's only their fault they don't build Dex to combat yours. I usually don't like land destruction but that's case where it's fair game because it's a viable tactic against a certain deck

  • @peewee130946

    @peewee130946

    4 жыл бұрын

    The issue is it’s not land destruction that people hate strip mine is fine it’s the armegedon thats the problem because it hits even the players who aren’t playing greedy

  • @randomguy2113
    @randomguy21134 жыл бұрын

    Cyriaque is such a cool name. Everyone had such a cool deck

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-32624 жыл бұрын

    Clayton going after jurkis was a dick move. Jurkis did nothing to deserve it and he was not winning either.

  • @jaredgarden2455

    @jaredgarden2455

    3 жыл бұрын

    In claytons defence a deck like kozilek can be rather explosive and disruptive, however jurkis had a terrible starting hand he should never have kept.

  • @bobby45825

    @bobby45825

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jaredgarden2455 What a deck COULD do vs. the board state they're currently in are two VERY different things at times. Jurkis wasn't popping off to get 2 annihilator swings at him while the golos player was burying the board. It felt like a "aiming for 2nd place" series of plays on Clayton's fault. Jurkis DID keep a trash opening hand though, like you pointed out. Who keeps with 3 lands, no ramp, and 7+ drops in hand? That was an easy pitch and he kept it.

  • @Googleflax
    @Googleflax4 жыл бұрын

    The threat assessment was really poor this game; Golos was popping off from the get-go yet Clayton kept throwing his removal and Kozilek at Jurkis instead.

  • @lallypop4

    @lallypop4

    4 жыл бұрын

    The dude had a vendetta or something against Jurkis, or the deck Jurkis is running gives him nightmares

  • @SamiGodHater

    @SamiGodHater

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was pretty bad

  • @yichong777

    @yichong777

    4 жыл бұрын

    I kept thinking that I must be missing something. This game was hard to watch and not really entertaining at all..

  • @seasnek7024

    @seasnek7024

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeh and Karn exiling something from hand rather than field was another huge misplay

  • @bobby45825

    @bobby45825

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mgarratt101 That counter stopping path was like "wtf is going on? Is there another player on board that wants kozilek to stay alive other than the kozilek player?" The threat assessment this game was on par with what my group does usually. I could have an empty field and one card in hand and they'd be like "swing at the golos player with an empty board state cause he COULD top deck something".

  • @XxTheWillxX
    @XxTheWillxX4 жыл бұрын

    Narrator: Clayton looks over at the large board that Trevor has, Clayton enters battle and attacks Jurkis. Trevor then pops off. Clayton then draws for turn staring at jurkis almost empty board. He then enters battle with kozilek and attacks Jurkis again. The entire table is confused.

  • @a77ack69
    @a77ack693 жыл бұрын

    How have i not discovered you before!! Such good content. Its usually hour and a half long videos for edh but the editing and swiftness of these videos is just superb.

  • @wafflesporq
    @wafflesporq4 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this game showcases the issues people have with 5 color commander design now. If you told me someone was not only reliably getting cabal coffers, urborg, and field of the dead in a 5 color deck, but also using them without any issue to their consistency, and I didn't know Golos existed, I'd call you crazy. The fact a 5 color deck can reliably do this is just wild.

  • @roflsnpwncakes

    @roflsnpwncakes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Open ended 5 color commanders are extremely detrimental to the format and I really hope they stop printing them

  • @SeniorAdrian

    @SeniorAdrian

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to play with my friends but when i started testing Golos i saw how broken he is to the point of not having fun playing with it.

  • @wafflesporq

    @wafflesporq

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SeniorAdrian I built Golos because it seemed like a funny meme, but it accidentally just turned into 5 color archenemy playing all the greediest spells. I think the only game I didn't go nuts by turn 6 was the one where someone (very wisely) named Golos with a Pithing Needle.

  • @bobby45825

    @bobby45825

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've found urborg and cabal are way too greedy in my golos deck. Field of the dead is a bit underwhelming unless you're playing the land's strategy. Now it's awesome cause I always get world tree and every land is a command tower now. It's super cool. Getting people salty with big value good stuff bombs is absolutely the most fun way to play.

  • @Devilish420
    @Devilish4204 жыл бұрын

    That's the first time I ever seen a Golos deck work off of land interaction. Golos is so busted you can basically make almost any kind of build with him.

  • @peewee130946

    @peewee130946

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like the golas lands deck it’s a lot of fun the other golas decks are just good stuff decks

  • @noalindqvist9826
    @noalindqvist98264 жыл бұрын

    I can hear Toccata and Fugue in D minor in the background and I have stopped paying attention to the game and just listen to the music.

  • @TheGeekZeek

    @TheGeekZeek

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup, he liked my comment also. It's nice to have a good mtg content creator who has also a good taste in music.

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger33354 жыл бұрын

    Also, Trevor must make really good money because every deck he has is completely blinged out and full of the most expensive cards in magic.

  • @ryoujizero2909

    @ryoujizero2909

    4 жыл бұрын

    Those players are usually the scariest too.

  • @kingfuzzy2

    @kingfuzzy2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryoujizero2909 yep spikes to beat them you combo out with mono b or make their threats irrelevant consistently

  • @bobby45825

    @bobby45825

    3 жыл бұрын

    Proxies babyyyyyy.

  • @cesarpiedra9165
    @cesarpiedra91654 жыл бұрын

    Who plays thoughtseize in EDH? Don’t understand why the Spine of Ish Sah targeted a lux cannon with all the stuff Trevor had on board, and yeah, that Kozilek had to keep attacking Trevor.

  • @tmakalpha1
    @tmakalpha14 жыл бұрын

    Price of Progress would have done some serious work at this table, which is why it's in every xR deck I play

  • @truetbird1730

    @truetbird1730

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, Price is a surprisingly good card that doesn't see as much play as it should

  • @miikkas4723
    @miikkas47234 жыл бұрын

    I was just about to brew Sidisi and Breya.. And here you are, providing two games a week apart with these as the commanders. Love ya!

  • @AllHailBlobs
    @AllHailBlobs4 жыл бұрын

    It's nice seeing a non-insta combo win Golos deck. I can't tell you how many times I've seen that budget Golos deck

  • @blinky101

    @blinky101

    4 жыл бұрын

    You mean like using scapeshift... which he had... in combo with prismatic omen... which he had...and valakut... which he had.. to instantly win?

  • @eliakimrodrigues

    @eliakimrodrigues

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@blinky101 Maybe he/she is talking about Maze's End.

  • @apophis456

    @apophis456

    4 жыл бұрын

    Blinky101 D that’s not an instant win, it’s a win condition. That’s like saying any deck that wins by combat damage, regardless of life total just “plays a creature and instantly wins”

  • @TehFoamy
    @TehFoamy2 жыл бұрын

    "Clayton plays Spine of Ish Sah, blowing up Jurkis's Lux Cannon" What "Hmm, should I blow up the 4 mana artifact that destroys one permanent every 4 turns, or the land that makes 15 mana every turn? The cannon is easily way more threatening, I'll kill that one" I'm also not sure why he targeted Dark Depths with the second Spine, especially considering that Trevor could just make the 20/20 in response. Clayton could have chumped the token for days with his Thopters, so I'd much rather use the Spine on that goddamn coffers

  • @timhodes2685
    @timhodes26854 жыл бұрын

    Doesnt ral scry 1 instead of 2?

  • @ErikTheRedd1

    @ErikTheRedd1

    4 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think I misspoke. I mentioned that he keeps one on top and puts one to the bottom.

  • @Devilish420

    @Devilish420

    4 жыл бұрын

    If its ral storm conduit then yes it's only scry 1

  • @freya002YT

    @freya002YT

    4 жыл бұрын

    Massive misplay

  • @MadcookieBG

    @MadcookieBG

    4 жыл бұрын

    In the video even though there is a brief cut, it looks like he does exactly that, put 1 card on bottom and 1 on top. :/

  • @williamschaefer1822
    @williamschaefer18224 жыл бұрын

    Great videos! I was just wondering if we could see how many cards in hand for each player. Love your channel!

  • @grantbosworth6418
    @grantbosworth64183 жыл бұрын

    Clayton threw so hard. He could have disrupted the player about to win but instead kept hitting the player in last.

  • @isaacgurney1927
    @isaacgurney19274 жыл бұрын

    The Nici B deck be hella pimped

  • @germanyjones2700
    @germanyjones27004 жыл бұрын

    Oh I’m such an addict thanks mudd too bad I don’t get to see you stomping tomer anymore

  • @rabbituckmann8146
    @rabbituckmann81464 жыл бұрын

    pretty nice golos deck! good game!

  • @quentin847
    @quentin8472 жыл бұрын

    Quality video! 😍

  • @Roozsta_
    @Roozsta_4 жыл бұрын

    Wow Trevor had a great start! Golos is quickly becoming a commander with a reputation, and I feel that the only play that would have stopped him from winning was being attacked for another annihilator 4 trigger.

  • @rorykitchen2727
    @rorykitchen27274 жыл бұрын

    Ral, Storm Conduit is a Scry 1 btw!

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    4 жыл бұрын

    Whoops! I may have misspoken. Sorry.

  • @hans202008
    @hans2020083 жыл бұрын

    around 16:40 it seems there is an urborg in play making all lands swamps, aren't you missing a bunch of dread presence triggers from the fetchlands?

  • @shayneweyker
    @shayneweyker4 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see wizards make several versions of fairly low CMC blood moon lite effects that nerf all non-basic lands in play. Making each player decide which one kind of basic their non-basics will be until the thing generating the effect leaves play. So people are still able to play many of their spells (except for the most color-diverse decks) but can't steamroll opponents with critical masses of high-power stuff like cradle, coffers, depths, maze, Khans fetches, etc. Lands decks can do with having to give up some more slots to removal. Mono-green ramp is kind of a separate issue and we could use a extra lands played per turn nerf effect that makes lands played in excess of the first one each turn return to hand right after entering play or gain a counter meaning the additional lands only untap under some moderately challenging condition.

  • @TheGeekZeek
    @TheGeekZeek4 жыл бұрын

    I approve of the Toccata and Fugue in D minor.

  • @knightfromlordran
    @knightfromlordran4 жыл бұрын

    WOW trevors Golos was awesome! great game and great music

  • @forerealz
    @forerealz4 жыл бұрын

    When I saw that Trevor was playing a land's matter deck, and knowing my playstyle is similar to his, I was hoping that this was a 5-color Valakut deck. I've made 2, 3 and 4 color Valakut decks before, but have yet to make a 5 color one.

  • @jonnystorms3310

    @jonnystorms3310

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dryad of illysian grove probably makes that feasible no?

  • @dwightpatch4441
    @dwightpatch44413 жыл бұрын

    how does he scry 2 with Ral? I thought you could only activate planeswalker ability once and it's scry 1.

  • @notsuspiciousthejudgmental2423
    @notsuspiciousthejudgmental24234 жыл бұрын

    Some big boi commanders And bolas

  • @TheHolyWarz
    @TheHolyWarz Жыл бұрын

    Clayton's threat assessment hurts my very soul, sometimes I wonder that some people simply doesn't look at the board state and just swing at random

  • @breteubank
    @breteubank4 жыл бұрын

    great game

  • @nathanielh.6711
    @nathanielh.67114 жыл бұрын

    Countering Path targeting Kozilek instead of tap draw. some proper threat assessment right here.

  • @awrenfaussa8887

    @awrenfaussa8887

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kozilek would have dealt with Trevor's value land en masse if Clayton actually threw it his way.

  • @armoric

    @armoric

    4 жыл бұрын

    Annihilator forces Trevor to lose lands, which helps against Valakut and slightly with Coffers, especially if he could do it multiple turns in a row.

  • @glenkabotie8708

    @glenkabotie8708

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly pretty sure bolas player stopped that in hopes it would allow for an annihilator attack on Golos who had no way to stop at that point. But instead he attacked the guy with nothing going on. Again!

  • @admanios
    @admanios4 жыл бұрын

    Oof. It feels like every Golos deck is either a lands deck or a value deck these days. There's no panache.

  • @kingfuzzy2

    @kingfuzzy2

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've seen golos cycling, zombies (no fotd), group hug, 9 cmc tribal, Eldrazi, wuburg tribal, squirrels and a few others.

  • @bobby45825

    @bobby45825

    3 жыл бұрын

    I play golos good stuff bombs. It's fantastic. Super fun.

  • @Braum_Is_Here
    @Braum_Is_Here3 жыл бұрын

    what was in jurkis kozilek deck???

  • @Ianoxen
    @Ianoxen4 жыл бұрын

    Trevor's decks are always impressive.

  • @kingginger3335
    @kingginger33354 жыл бұрын

    My Windgrace deck is tuned and ready to make a showing on the channel! I think you'd be impressed

  • @Threadoflength
    @Threadoflength4 жыл бұрын

    eye-let

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good to know! Thank you

  • @mattman8436
    @mattman84364 жыл бұрын

    That was appropriate music for that game.

  • @gapeape3895
    @gapeape38954 жыл бұрын

    A thoughtseize in edh? Wut

  • @DiabloTommaso

    @DiabloTommaso

    4 жыл бұрын

    People think it's good cause it has no restriction..

  • @kingfuzzy2

    @kingfuzzy2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DiabloTommaso hymn to touroch is better ; )

  • @samk73
    @samk734 жыл бұрын

    Muddstah strikes again

  • @amethystwyvern
    @amethystwyvern4 жыл бұрын

    I run a Kozilek eldrazi deck, lots of fun to play but it makes you a target

  • @benyura
    @benyura4 жыл бұрын

    Didn't Trevor have Urborg? Wouldn't dread presence trigger everytime a land entered?

  • @tenzinchosang6737

    @tenzinchosang6737

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think youre right, its similar to www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/c637cs/question_about_urborg_tomb_of_yawgmoth/

  • @andrewlawton7447

    @andrewlawton7447

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cyriaque had the Urborg

  • @justinisorange
    @justinisorange3 жыл бұрын

    Ah it was nice to come Bach and listen to the audio

  • @TehFoamy
    @TehFoamy2 жыл бұрын

    I would be so unbelievably mad if I was Jurkis in this game lol, especially after the second Kozilek swing I would've just picked up my cards and told Clayton "Okay have fun losing to Trevor"

  • @Moose00019
    @Moose000194 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure how familiar Jurkis is with Big K, but I wouldn't keep a hand without at least one form of ramp. Every game I have sat by watching others play was because I had a slow start.

  • @Jensees901
    @Jensees9014 жыл бұрын

    Cyriaque sounds like a legendary Dimir creature.

  • @damnjekyll
    @damnjekyll Жыл бұрын

    Now I understand why my Golos needed to become a Garth library. Dude just 2v1 those brothers with lands.. Didn't even hit anything crazy off activations 🤣 It all makes sense now

  • @paulantoine4283
    @paulantoine42834 жыл бұрын

    I need a deck list for nicol bolas 😊 Theme discard or? Need help mp me plz 😊

  • @jacobgherardi3793
    @jacobgherardi37934 жыл бұрын

    I wish there was a good showing of Kozilek here, I just built the deck, and It would have been nice to see what works and what doesn't

  • @jansenmayfield6317

    @jansenmayfield6317

    4 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen the episode of Game Knights where Ashlyn Rose plays Kozy?(:

  • @infamous0ne789

    @infamous0ne789

    4 жыл бұрын

    And here is a great example of why Lux cannon is not a good card. Four mana, two turns of doing nothing, then blown up. It attracts unrealistic levels of anxiety from the table and should be avoided. Also - need to mulligan and run every mana rock under the sun. Turn 4-5 Kozi is the goal.

  • @jacobgherardi3793

    @jacobgherardi3793

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jansen Mayfield yeah it’s fantastic

  • @kvetchenfinks7044
    @kvetchenfinks70444 жыл бұрын

    Cyriaque is the name of my dnd campaign villian lmao

  • @jmanwild87
    @jmanwild874 жыл бұрын

    While Mass Land destruction is Taboo I'd say something that destroys all nonbasic lands would have been lovely in resetting the archenemy state the game was in. I understand that MLD is taboo because people can just play it for the lolz but it would be lovely to be able to do something against Lands decks. Because unless you have them effectively dogpiled or they draw like garbage they can just go off over and over again because lands are the most permanent ramp in EDH since Land destruction is so rare.

  • @horribleville

    @horribleville

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @kingfuzzy2

    @kingfuzzy2

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's a few 4 Mana sorceries and blood moon/ back to basics effects that hose non basics if it's a real problem in your playgroup

  • @user-pw8ot8kp8z
    @user-pw8ot8kp8z3 жыл бұрын

    What the heck did cyriaque tutor for?

  • @arc486
    @arc4864 жыл бұрын

    Oooooh, these colorless decks

  • @BinJim31X24
    @BinJim31X243 жыл бұрын

    That was a commander game alright!

  • @xgxwills2857
    @xgxwills28574 жыл бұрын

    I just looked at the Golos deck and saw 47 lands. My Windgrace deck doesn't even come close to that XD

  • @user-zq7qs8hs5f

    @user-zq7qs8hs5f

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same. Thought my Windgrace is land/greveyard deck. Greater Good into Living Death win con.

  • @bobby45825

    @bobby45825

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's more embarrassing that he won. You just can't have that many threats or ramp when your manabase is that large. It's like...doubly embarrassing that Clayton didn't just take the golos player out of the game with kozilek. Ugh.

  • @NewOldEBM
    @NewOldEBM4 жыл бұрын

    But why didn't Trevor cast scrying THEN seasons past to get the scrying back as well?

  • @dennisyoung6122

    @dennisyoung6122

    4 жыл бұрын

    He probably wanted to shuffle seasons past away from the bottom.

  • @NewOldEBM

    @NewOldEBM

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dennisyoung6122 When the game was that locked up? It's certainly possible but I'd imagine getting an extra value land to close the game out would be better. Not like he picked a wrong play pattern though, obviously haha.

  • @marceloquejinho
    @marceloquejinho4 жыл бұрын

    Don't get me wrong but it was somewhat satisfying seeing the Golos player practically going solo agaist the other three

  • @edhrand8273
    @edhrand82733 жыл бұрын

    please please get the decklists i like bolas deck and kozz and own an breya deck

  • @Schiedog
    @Schiedog4 жыл бұрын

    Edh!!! Have you had a chance to play lately in person or still on lockdown?

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    4 жыл бұрын

    We're still unable to play in person in Ottawa. I probably won't be filming with people until things settle down even more.

  • @Schiedog

    @Schiedog

    4 жыл бұрын

    At least it’s safe. Things are getting pretty dicey in the USA.

  • @WindLizard

    @WindLizard

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MTGMuddstah I've been really into this channel for a while now, and seeing you say Ottawa just got me all excited. Is there any chance you play with viewers? Is that a patreon only thing like other KZreadrs do? I love your music choices during these videos too. Classical music just makes the game seem more dramatic.

  • @BIueharvest
    @BIueharvest3 жыл бұрын

    shouldve used cryptic command to tap everyones creatures, so they could kill Trevor. but i expect Clayton wouldnt have even done that

  • @sasukeds
    @sasukeds4 жыл бұрын

    Annnnnd I still think Golos is fundamentally broken as a commander. Just my shit opinion that no one asked for. Took the whole table plus being hit by Annih 4 to keep it at bay. Ridiculous xD

  • @afspeellijstnaruto

    @afspeellijstnaruto

    4 жыл бұрын

    Y well. My jodah deck used golos at the helm last time i played (and for me it was the 1st time actually using golos). I was not able to golos his ability once cuz he kept being removed by 'destroy target creature' AND destroy artifact effects. But the trade off was that i just recast it for hitting more land drops and getting fist of the suns + jodah on the table and used THOSE abilities to win. Golos is only as broken as the rest of the deck. Mainly the shit i see on KZread with all those expensive ass cards in it 'break' him.

  • @apophis456

    @apophis456

    4 жыл бұрын

    Golos Lands decks are usually unfairly balanced just because you don’t attack lands in commander as an unwritten rule. What I do is run non basic land destruction in all of my decks, like from the ashes or wave of vitriol. Most Golos lands decks only run 1 of each basic land so even though those cards let you replace the non basics with basics, the Golos player can lose 20 lands and only get a maximum of 5 back

  • @sasukeds

    @sasukeds

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@apophis456 I agree that non-basic LD is an answer. The problem with that is Golos decks usually run extra turn spells and ways to recur the lands you destroy(Life from the Loam, Sun Titan, Crucible of Worlds are just a few) making you have answers almost every single turn. Golos also brings a land with him so even if you remove him all the player needs to do is play his land for turn to cast him again. Im not saying he is unbeatable, I just have the bad opinion that Golos breaks commander tax and doesn't get punished by being removed (actually nets a land tutor when he gets removed) which are huge problems when you tie in his activated ability as well on top of that.

  • @afspeellijstnaruto

    @afspeellijstnaruto

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sasukeds I can see where you are coming from. Maybe it's just cuz i am not in a competitive environment (i only use basics and cheap taplands) and the lands themselves simpky don't pose a threat

  • @apophis456

    @apophis456

    4 жыл бұрын

    Asarei I agree. Annihilator is another way to deal with it but you are correct, Golos does feel “cheaty” in a way because his commander tax goes 1,3,5,7 instead of 2,4,6,8 AND he can rip 3 cards for free just for having 7 lands

  • @arjundargula9355
    @arjundargula93553 жыл бұрын

    The I thought people dealt with golos is enchanting him with something grasp of fate or darksteel mutation. I am also in artifacts so I have acess to torrmods crypt in case they get recurring value from grave as seen here.

  • @kingfuzzy2

    @kingfuzzy2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mudhole : D

  • @arjundargula9355

    @arjundargula9355

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kingfuzzy2 I've never head of that card! Ty for recommendation.

  • @kingfuzzy2

    @kingfuzzy2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arjundargula9355 my pleasure ( :

  • @christiangrosen1979
    @christiangrosen19793 жыл бұрын

    Ral Storm conduit upticks 2 only Scy 1, huge value difference

  • @Kokonutzlz
    @Kokonutzlz4 жыл бұрын

    Ral is just Scry 1 :( I know this from playing his infinite copy-spell combo kill in Standard

  • @SeeingGreenDevils
    @SeeingGreenDevils4 жыл бұрын

    Cyriaque sounds like a Marvel super vialian name. and on theme playing Nicky B. also, Breya player's threat assessment is pretty off tonight.

  • @mrdude8416
    @mrdude84164 жыл бұрын

    Cyriaque scry’d 2 off of Ral, but Ral’s +2 says scry 1...

  • @diarrhearulz
    @diarrhearulz4 жыл бұрын

    Where did the first marit lage token go?

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    4 жыл бұрын

    All is Dust made Trevor sacrifice it

  • @diarrhearulz

    @diarrhearulz

    4 жыл бұрын

    MTG Muddstah ah thanks, forgot it was sacrifice and not destroy

  • @Macattack1023
    @Macattack10234 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love that Golos deck! It’s awesome!

  • @pabloballesteros6712
    @pabloballesteros67124 жыл бұрын

    Golos vs the world!

  • @Conward632
    @Conward6323 жыл бұрын

    Is Clayton upset with Jurkis for not exiling the Marit Lage (due to hand motions)? If so, I don't think that Clayton has any footing for being upset as he is pummeling the kozilek player.

  • @horribleville
    @horribleville4 жыл бұрын

    The threat assessment was ridiculous. Trevor should've been targeted by the kozilek annihilator most of the game, it's obvious his deck is the most powerful. Also I hate that land destruction is looked down upon, the guys deck was seriously half lands!

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR4 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else notice that Cyriaque had cards that were facing the wrong way when he shuffled one time?

  • @anix712

    @anix712

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you're meaning at the 11:21 mark, It wasn't that he had cards facing the wrong way, it was that his deck was upside down while he was searching through it at that moment.

  • @mastershake42019
    @mastershake420193 жыл бұрын

    Life from the loam did so much work this game

  • @thedeadfool1
    @thedeadfool14 жыл бұрын

    4:41 The dredge hit a land, so why didn't gitrog draw again?

  • @aarong2606

    @aarong2606

    4 жыл бұрын

    There wasnt a land? Mirage mirror, on nixilis the fallen and lord windgrace are not lands sir

  • @thedeadfool1

    @thedeadfool1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aarong2606 mirage mirror looked like gemstone for a second. My bad

  • @TheStoneAxe23Animation
    @TheStoneAxe23Animation3 жыл бұрын

    I was watching this and I heard my name and I thought, "Wait what's going on." And then realized that was the name of the 4th guy.

  • @combosarefun4449
    @combosarefun44494 жыл бұрын

    Cyriaque sounds like the name of a villain in a game.

  • @rickers2011
    @rickers20114 жыл бұрын

    7:40 jurkis didnt put a charge counter on Lux Cannon?

  • @luna6315
    @luna63154 жыл бұрын

    path to exile being countered was unexpected

  • @afspeellijstnaruto

    @afspeellijstnaruto

    4 жыл бұрын

    y that was a lame move. But i guess we did not hear/see the politics behind the camera? :/

  • @luna6315

    @luna6315

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@afspeellijstnaruto i guess yeah

  • @lock1863

    @lock1863

    4 жыл бұрын

    This was almost certainly a political move, Cyriaque probably countered only if Clayton never swing Kozi at him or something like that. What really surprised me was he headed at Jurkis next turn, seemed like a great way to team up against Trevor's boardstate.

  • @Chuubii
    @Chuubii4 жыл бұрын

    Ciriaque, Jerkis, you Canadians have crazy names

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cyriaque and Jurkis both live in New York City.

  • @sharkattack1218
    @sharkattack12184 жыл бұрын

    The brothers vs trevor is what i saw lol

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar4 жыл бұрын

    I don't criticize Clayton. If I can keep a Kozilek deck out of that critical Kozilek mana, I will do so. Never forget Ashlen Rose and her Kozilek deck at GameKnights...

  • @rickimes453
    @rickimes4534 жыл бұрын

    Clayton isnt the shiniest marble in the jar now is he??🙄😂

  • @Grimmy_UA
    @Grimmy_UA4 жыл бұрын

    Heeey, Valakut can't target planeswalkers! (7:00)

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    4 жыл бұрын

    They have errata'd it so it can target anything. You can confirm that with the Gatherer page.

  • @nicksegreti8133

    @nicksegreti8133

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MTGMuddstah Did he have the 5 mountains in play before the Skyshroud Claim to trigger the Valakut? It didn't seem clear from the video that he did.

  • @ThreatLevel9
    @ThreatLevel94 жыл бұрын

    Oof. There was some real painful choices that game. The Kozillek was saved... and he chooses to attack JURKIS?!?

  • @IamJoshEast
    @IamJoshEast4 жыл бұрын

    Besides Andrew himself, Trevor is my fav part of this channel, his decks are always powerhouses and the games are just great to watch.

  • @shayneweyker

    @shayneweyker

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think high power decks are only fun to watch if paired against similar power decks. Which wasn't really the case here.

  • @p1k4nurxp13sr
    @p1k4nurxp13sr4 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure several Ob Nixilis triggers were missed.

  • @pianowithDaniel
    @pianowithDaniel3 жыл бұрын

    Looks like the two brothers hate trevor lol

  • @germanyjones2700
    @germanyjones27004 жыл бұрын

    GO JURKIS GO GO GO!

  • @uriahatkinson2103
    @uriahatkinson21033 жыл бұрын

    Gg all..golos wins..keep these games coming

  • @benyseus6325
    @benyseus63254 жыл бұрын

    Fiery *ISLET*

  • @davesharp9800
    @davesharp98004 жыл бұрын

    Put 6 cards that say take an extra turn in the golos deck, then activate golos with a nyxbloom ancient on the battlefield and lastly make sure you have a consuming abberation on your battlefield. Some fun mill.

  • @SLJB8
    @SLJB8 Жыл бұрын

    Watching this post Golos ban makes me a sad panda.

  • @tetrisgoat
    @tetrisgoat2 жыл бұрын

    Field of the dead ETBT, so it can't be activated to Coffers.

  • @assassinLOLGASM
    @assassinLOLGASM4 жыл бұрын

    "Time sieve" is pronounced "siv" (not "seeve", hope this helps!)

  • @MTGMuddstah

    @MTGMuddstah

    4 жыл бұрын

    It does! I appreciate the help on pronouncing things correctly (except for Chulaine, he is Chuck forever now).

  • @assassinLOLGASM

    @assassinLOLGASM

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MTGMuddstah I'm glad to be of help! (and I agree, having a chuck edh deck it is just better to say that then to get into any pronunciation fights!)

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