They are trying to recreate the Xbox 360 moment where it launched earlier than PS3 and gained momentum. But that alone won't be enough. MS needs to have system sellers like the 360 had. Live service games don't sell consoles.

@Apec84

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, they’re going to need an actual good launch line up.

@G360LIVE

6 ай бұрын

If the next Xbox launches in 2026, they can get Gears of War launching with it on the Gears 20th Anniversary.

@Sand_1995

6 ай бұрын

@@G360LIVE they haven't started development on the next gears of war yet. Will take them 3-5 years to get it out on UE5. They will miss the launch window.

@cookingsauce8274

6 ай бұрын

They can hardly sell what they have now. It'll be worse in 2024 when switch 2 and ps5 pro drops. No one will be talking about series comsoles when those 2 come out

@XhoowieX

6 ай бұрын

​@@G360LIVEit needs to actually be good though. They've already had the next Halo, the next Bethesda (Redfall), the next 'real Bethesda' (Starfield). Nothing is even close to being 'that game' that they'd need at least 3-4 of on launch. Even Call of Duty dropped arguably its worst game ever immediately after they bought Activision.

I booted up my OG Xbox the other day and my 11 year old son’s reaction said it all. ‘This was Xbox? Wow, cool.’

A perspective from a third world country resident. Moving from the 360 era to the Xbox 1, the Caribbean can be viewed as abandoned. Xbox Live support just suddenly stopped leaving all of the Caribbean to only have access to games via PlayStation. After some research it was clear that this didn't just happen to the Caribbean but also to other countries throughout Europe and some other areas. Which are now only dominated by Sony.

@eldonpaul8761

6 ай бұрын

Facts!

@user-km7vf8ig7m

6 ай бұрын

Jelous mayby xbot fangirl😂 go cope some more

@Omar-kl3xp

6 ай бұрын

PlayStation is just becoming the standard everywhere, when I went to my country in a west African country to visit some family members ,I realise that PlayStation is the only console people were playing now , it was either ps4 and ps5 ,not once I saw an Xbox , however back when Xbox 1 and Xbox 360 were out Xbox 360 was quite popular ,now it is just dominated by the PlayStation

@hyperfocus4866

6 ай бұрын

That's a good point actually, do any of you guys know If there are any African games companies?

@Goldmaaaaan

6 ай бұрын

@@hyperfocus4866 I’m not aware of any that operate at a AA scale, though if there are I’d love to know about them, but there’s a small handful mostly based out of South Africa and Nigeria that focus on mobile games, which makes sense given the resources required to develop for mobile

One of the biggest failings of series x and s is that it doesn’t feel like a next gen console because they’re sticking way to close to the look and feel of the Xbox One. They should’ve done a big rebranding and a stellar new UI to differentiate it from the Xbox one which to this day is perceived like a failure.

@maksymfedenko1153

6 ай бұрын

They updated design, they just delievered an update to older consoles too, which does not impressive, but imo pretty pro-consumer behaviour

@thatssomegoodpie

6 ай бұрын

@@maksymfedenko1153 I know but they still didn't draw a clear line the sand.

@jonnysnipes3123

6 ай бұрын

Yea I felt like I was logging into my Xbox one lol In all seriousness they should have done xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox 720, Xbox 1080, Xbox 1440(2028)

@jpesicka999

5 ай бұрын

I don’t think that has anything to do with it’s sales. PS is always going to outsell Xbox globally. Xbox has a massive player base in North America and isn’t a failure just because PS is more popular. Xbox has a lot of games coming and I believe this gen is showing more promise than last gen for Xbox. Sony will outsell it no matter what, that shouldn’t be the benchmark for whether or not the Xbox Series X is a success. The S however is not very powerful and not offer a current gen experience in most titles compared to XSX and PS5z I’m not a fan of what the Series S brings to the table in the Xbox lineup, mostly because it’s not a good value IMO. The Xbox Series X offers more value than the S if you consider how much more powerful it is and the disc drive for older BC titles is clutch. People see that the S is cheaper and jump on it without realizing how much better the X really is.

@MichaelM28

5 ай бұрын

@@jpesicka999 Trashbox is objectively a failure. Cry harder

Microsoft was basically giving away Xbox’s this holiday in the US. Every retailer was selling Aeries X for $350 and some even came with the Diablo 4 bundle. Series S got as low as $138

@pjisleta1994

6 ай бұрын

and still people buy ps5, even the Switch

@cooltwittertag

6 ай бұрын

​@@pjisleta1994the switch is the only one that has exclusives, thats why

@Scisca1a2a

6 ай бұрын

Meanwhile the Series X is still $450 in Europe. Not gonna lie, I'd get it if it was just $350

@onii_meme

6 ай бұрын

Yup! I bought a Series X at $350... Some of my coworkers bought some too!

@Ecsa0014

6 ай бұрын

I scored the Diablo bundle for $350 and think the hardware is great, but the game catalog is severely lacking in compelling games.

i don’t usually watch conversation streams like this so i hadn’t noticed before now that Olie is an excellent communicator even when he isn’t reading a script. it’s a small detail but once you notice it you can’t stop noticing it, dude has _poise_

@dodgykebaab

6 ай бұрын

Olie is a great team member. Absolutely on the ball that lad.

Nobody EVER buys Nintendo hardware for the hardware. Ever. It IS all about the games. To this day there are people denying this and try to argue that some superior features of one device should make it more successful than the competition, but that is just not how this works, or ever worked. Exclusive games sell hardware (and subscriptions).

@jameswatson5807

6 ай бұрын

No 3rd party games sell systems. Exclusive won't make some one by a console for one game.

@G360LIVE

6 ай бұрын

If it's all about the games, then why did hardly anyone buy a Wii U? Heck, go back to before the Wii. The PlayStation sold 102 million consoles while the Nintendo 64 sold 32 million. The PS2 sold 158 million while the GameCube sold 21 million. It wasn't until Nintendo struck gold with the Wii motion control that they were able to sell 100 million units. No one liked the Wii U hardware, which is why that console tanked. But everyone loves the Switch hardware, which is why it's doing great. Plus, people prefer taking Nintendo games on the road, which we know because Nintendo has sold a ton of units of each of its handhelds since the original Game Boy. So yes, people buy Nintendo hardware for the hardware. If the hardware isn't right, people aren't going to buy it. They'll still sell a lot of games, though. I mean, the Wii U only sold 13 million units, but Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U sold 8 million copies.

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

@@jameswatson5807You're right. That's why consoles usually have more than 1 exclusive

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

@@G360LIVEWii U had no games lol

@jameswatson5807

6 ай бұрын

@@MichaelM28 when Microsoft bought Bethesda PlayStation fans said they would not buy an Xbox for Bethesda games.

PS5 sold off the hype of PS4/Pro. Hell it’s the reason i got one. The funny thing is im probably mostly playing indies or remasters of 20 year old games mostly or at least half and half on my ps5

One of the most important reasons switching sides is much much harder than the PS3/X360 era is the huge digital library most players have. Back then backwards compatibility was almost non-existent (except for first gen PS3s and extremely limited backwards compatibility of 360) and since all of the games were physical, you could easily trade them in. You can't trade your digital games in, so it's much harder to turn you back on thousands of pounds worth of games AMD switch sides.

@AnthonyTripoli

6 ай бұрын

Hoping PS6 is backwards compatible to 4 at least

@mutalix

6 ай бұрын

It almost certainly will, Sony knows one of the reasons PS4 was successful and spilled over to the PS5 is their digital libraries to totally nullify that going into PS6 (and future iterations of PlayStation) will be a major mistake, effectively isolating a majority of the player base.

@MansaMusa50

5 ай бұрын

True indeed

Sony with the PS5 is closer to the PS1 and PS2 with software releases in that theyre relying heavily on third party exclusives. Sony didnt have the internal studios in the ps1/ps2 era, so a lot of the games that people think of when they think of the early playstations arent sony games. One obvious example is crash bandicoot. Now, you have things like ff7r and ff16, which are beautiful games releasing like they were sony exclusives

@mitchjames9350

6 ай бұрын

Bro Sony went on spending spree buying up devs before the PS1 release

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

@@mitchjames9350cause nintendo gave them the finger … literally and mocked them thats diff thats real beef

@gtylerbrown2

6 ай бұрын

​@@mitchjames9350 never heard of this spree. How many studios did they buy? Which ones. I recall psygnosis

@Clay3613

6 ай бұрын

@@gtylerbrown2 Perhaps he's confusing exclusivity deals

@gtylerbrown2

6 ай бұрын

@Clay3613 possibly. They had a few preferential deals like tekken and ff7 from what I've found. But they don't own any of those companies 🤔

No good having a console with no genuine blockbuster console selling games.

@iconofsin4578

6 ай бұрын

And sony has them?

@GeneralS1mba

6 ай бұрын

​@@tukayz254I'd say problem with starfield is that the gameplay gets worse and worse the more you play it

@danielainger8666

6 ай бұрын

@@tukayz254 Did Starfield do well its average at best, story is terrible and the graphics are outdated its a typical overhyped bethesda game. It doesn't compare to something like GOW Ragnarok or Spiderman.

@x0Fang0x

6 ай бұрын

@@tukayz254 not well enough. With the hype it got it should've sold like elden ring. I'd say gamepass hurt it's initial sales.

I feel that no matter how much MS and Sony tout their acquisitions of Studio A or B as wins, all of this consolidation is strangling gaming as a whole. Nobody makes the weird, fun, and "unsafe" games anymore, at least games that are beyond the scope of a mobile game. Everything is just meh and a cookie cutter of 100 games before it.

@ogikay7056

6 ай бұрын

It is because games that are beyond scope of mobile games are expensive and most studios can’t risk a flop thus risking shut/lay offs. Indie games are better than ever.

@Ecsa0014

6 ай бұрын

@@ogikay7056 No doubt, but that doesn't make the situation better.

@johnconnorpliskin7184

6 ай бұрын

Makes me all the more appreciative of Death Stranding. I never thought it would get a sequel nor that Kojima and his team would be developing a game for Xbox too. It’s cool seeing so much budget injected into such strange products.

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

Yes they do you just dont have a ps5 lol 😅 and dont look at lower devs who dont have a name many games out there buddy just no promotion

@Ir-jq5kb

6 ай бұрын

No. Look at how Obsidian just made Pentiment. That's a weird and unsafe game and it's absolutely amazing. MS allowed them to have creative freedom and made that game. At least MS doesn't force them to only make big AAA titles.

The 360 was so freaking good,MS was so aggressiv in marketing and games,such a glorius time.After that all went downhill.Im not a ps or xbox fanboy,in the end i just buy the better product and in the last 10 years sony just delivered big time

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

Stuck in 2009 i see its 2023 buddy give it up you must be a middle aged man with no nostalgia

@f.9344

6 ай бұрын

Yes, bc Microsoft was dumb af back then. They created exclusive games with exclusive Studios and after the success they closed down one studio after another. After that Sony started making the same, but wasnt as retarded as MS didn't close them. This led to this outcome. NEVER TRUST MICROSOFT nor Sony, but but if I have to choose whom to trust more, it would be Sony.

One of the reasons why I don’t own a series X/S is because I own a pc and most of the games are playable on there so I got a ps5 instead. I’ve always been an Xbox guy since I got the 360 for my 8th birthday in 2006 prior to that I had shared a ps2 with my older brother. 360 is my favorite console of all time for it being almost 20 years old. I still use mine because of the fact that I have an rgh chip installed and can play any game I want from that era. there were a lot of games that were heavy hitters in that generation. Just the other day I was playing guitar hero and the rockband games. I wish they still made those type of games, what an era that was.

@hyperfocus4866

6 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree with you more. My favorite eras were the PS1/2 because of the shear imagination and genres of games. Nowadays with production costs of AAA games etc it seems more sterile, the games industry as a whole.

@antonioacm

6 ай бұрын

I bought my ps5 cause i have a pc with game pass ultimate, but in the end my experience with playing with pc was not so good in last year and i love the feeling the console give you, they are designed to let you play the game as fast as possible without all the drivers issues or a lots of waste time the pc that only windows can. I finished buying an xbox series x and now i use the most, i think people concentrate too much on exclusive games that they finish in 20 hours to realize the xbox series x can let you run emultators like ps1,ps2, x360, nintendo gamecube and games are working well. I love that i can play the some games on pc , cloud qnd xbox series x and shaing the same saves, i can simply grab a tablet (cable connected to a router for better experience) and play like it was a portable console. Whatever microsoft is doing i hope they continue this way any hardware can became a console

@hyperfocus4866

6 ай бұрын

@@jazzfan67 I think it can be a "age thing". There are only so many enjoyable melodies, cords etc before they become just a well tread pattern.

John hit the nail on the head I really missed the diversity of playstation 1-3 in regards to their exclusive games

@DrazenX195

6 ай бұрын

Pretty much this. It's why I don't have a Playstation 5. The first party cinematic games don't interest me. I'm not a big comic fan so Spiderman isn't interesting to me. There's just not much there. And the few things there are, I could get on PC if I wanted. Big reason why I have Xbox is mainly the ecosystem. Game pass games work in my Xbox, my PC, and my ROG Ally. It's just convenient. I was really hoping the PS Portal would at least have cloud streaming and it would be a good way to get back into the PS ecosystem without dropping the money on a console I don't necessarily feel sold on.

@DP12321

6 ай бұрын

​@@DrazenX195You're not missing much, my PS5 is basically a PS4 Pro at this point. Third parties are starting to come into their own, but it's so different from the early Sony studios days. I'd rather watch paint dry than give any attention to yet another remaster. They've milked TLOU dry.

@DrazenX195

6 ай бұрын

@@DP12321 aye. The PS1-3/PSP-Vita are some of my favorite systems. 4-5 just hasn't had that magic for me.

@zodiac909

6 ай бұрын

@@DrazenX195 100% why i dont have a ps5

@zodiac909

6 ай бұрын

@@DrazenX195 glad to hear that the "OG playstation" fans still exist

We've be already seen that the more powerful console doesn't necessarily win. Multiple times. I don't think a new console is going to do much of anything for them

@mrsasshole

6 ай бұрын

Indeed. Only thing that truly matters is great games. Something Sony & Nintendo have had in abundance and something that has been scarce on the Xbox platform for ten years now.

@Crashed131963

6 ай бұрын

The power difference between S-X and Ps5 is small . I seen countless side by side game comparison between the two and the Ps5 runs the games the same .

@eugkra33

6 ай бұрын

@@Crashed131963 because DirectX seems to be worse than what Sonny is using. On paper the Xbox has 20% more theoretical performance. 44% more compute units, but it's clocked lower.

@mrsasshole

6 ай бұрын

​@@eugkra33 I'm no longer in the game industry but was for many years, so I can probably offer something authoritative here. Three main issues here why PS5 is typically on par or slightly better than the X despite the theoretical differences: 1. GNM & GNMX do have a lower overhead typically than DirectX. Over simplification to some extent, but in general you're spot on with your analysis here, eugkra33. 2. The Series S is what I would call a very "pro consumer" move by Microsoft. As someone who is a bit older now (I'm 48) with a lot of disposable income, I'm not so old that I don't remember what it was like to be a broke college student or a young dad on a very tight budget. I love that a gamer can shell out $249 for a Series S and 10 bucks a month for Game Pass and have a ton of gaming entertainment at their disposal. However, the Series S has a significant negative impact on the Series X. Developers will ALWAYS code to the lowest platform and then scale up. Never the opposite. Devs being forced to code for the S have to make compromises on game design that the would not have to make if they were only developing for the X. Again, I love the series S as a consumer and a once poor college student/young dad. As a hardcore gamer, I despise the S for what it's done to X development. 3. Microsoft went "wide", Sony went "fast". High clock speeds are a big benefit for multiplat titles where studios are limited in the amount of customization work they can do for each platform. Both approaches are valid and as a nerd, I kinda love that Sony and MS took different routes to solve the same problem. But it's just easier to get performance out of a "fast" architecture than it is with a "wide" architecture. Unfortunately, we've had very few AAA exclusives for the Series X during its lifetime. Hopefully that will change as the generation goes on because a studio that's allowed to really focus on the Series X hardware is going to be able to build something beautiful. Ray Tracing scales extremely well across CU's and that's an area where the X has a large advantage over the PS5. Hopefully we'll see one of MS' especially talented studios like The Coalition produce something truly spectacular on the series X (Gears of War 6!).

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

Yeah and the pro will match it anyway and probably be cheaper

Your first question on why Sony has such a commanding lead. The answer is simple. They have the high-quality games.

@Viggen66

6 ай бұрын

which ones?

@oo--7714

6 ай бұрын

@@Viggen66 Spider-Man that’s it

@Sand_1995

6 ай бұрын

3rd party games are propping up the PS5 this gen. They need to pivot back to single player games and kill off all their live service titles .

@David-nd4to

6 ай бұрын

@@Sand_1995dev time is what’s killing this gen. You’re talking 4 years minimum to drop a good game.

@shoego

6 ай бұрын

I have to agree. Not that ps5 games are masterpieces by anymeans. It is just that XBOX games are HORRIBLE.

It actually very impressive what sony was able to do in the console space. Off the top of my head, i can't think of another company that came into an established industry and dominated with their very first product in that space. Sony didn't even want their name attached to the OG playstation, fearing it would damage the 'maturity' of the brand. Then the PS created an entirely new section of the market: for people who only thought games were for kids, they got true, mature 'cinematic' games. Some people are saying the iPhone. Not even close. The OG iPhone obviously laid the groundwork for smartphones in general, but it was not acknowledged by the public at large, being seen as a fancy, expensive, too complex gimmick. It also only found success in the states. There's an argument for the ipod, but I don't think it created the same social and cultural buzz as the playstation. And the ipod needed multiple iterations to break the first million-a-years sales.

@northfield3654

6 ай бұрын

It's easier when you are backed by a massive company and you are able to buy up what you need, they also were massive in consumer electronic devices at the time which made the physical production side easier as well as being a dominant player in the media side of things hence the push for CD, then DVD, then Blu-ray, papa Sony was able to bankroll the lot

@Cruxis_Angel

6 ай бұрын

They're the only console manufacturer that provides excellent 1st and 3rd party. This philosophy always made the PS brand the default console of choice excluding the PS3 but even that ended up coming around. Nintendo has unmatched 1st party but the 3rd party suffers cause of the hardware/online. Xbox has the 3rd party but dropping the ball on exclusives since the half way point of the 360.

@northfield3654

6 ай бұрын

@@Cruxis_Angel And now PlayStations biggest third party games are going to be from Microsoft

@JimmyNuisance

6 ай бұрын

@@northfield3654 Will they? Microsoft getting back into making games again?

@northfield3654

6 ай бұрын

@@JimmyNuisance they do own over 40 studios now

I miss the console era where we would get a magnitude of game releases. I feel like the PS5 and Series X have been a huge letdown.

@ArielCleirigh

6 ай бұрын

Cause for devs take more time delivering great games with quality not the same as development for PS2.

@DP12321

6 ай бұрын

​@@ArielCleirighThey are spending too much time on graphics, need more emphasis on physics.

@GeneralS1mba

6 ай бұрын

​@@DP12321physics is generally CPU dependant which consoles are pretty weak in

@DP12321

6 ай бұрын

@@GeneralS1mba We need more Teardowns and less Spider-Mans.

@GeneralS1mba

6 ай бұрын

@@DP12321 imagine spider man, where you could actually break the buildings and all 😂 instead of 2d effects on the ground when you attack

To me, one of the biggest issues seems to be Xbox is lack of innovation. I can’t get over how many features the Xbox controller is missing compared to Nintendo and Sony, especially gyro! No moves to any other forms of gaming like VR shows this lack of passion for pushing gaming forward. Feels like business men running it not gamers or tech enthusiasts. I feel this attitude is reflected in there software output. It’s quite disappointing and sad to see how behind they are from only a few small but incredibly important differences

@Zinkolo

6 ай бұрын

Finally someone mentions the controllers.

@jameswatson5807

6 ай бұрын

They tried that with Xbox Kinect, people just want traditional controller no gimmicks.

@noodles9345

6 ай бұрын

I really dislike the dualsense. I prefer to just use the xbox controller on PC. Then the times where I do rarely buy a console game I'll get it on xbox because I like the UI and controller better over PS5. But that's just a preference of course.

@tgreg9542

6 ай бұрын

Facts and the point the put out a considerable weak console this Gen with the Series S. It’s seemed like a good idea 3-4 years ago but know it’s holding that beast series x back just so Microsoft could make money.they knew if they just released the X alone it would’ve flopped😂😂😂

@youwatch2muchtv

6 ай бұрын

@@jameswatson5807its because the kinect was a requirement, which was a stupid thing to do.

If they don't have games, they wont sell consoles.

4:50 I completely agree with John here. I wish Sony would devote some attention to smaller-budget titles. Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Bleeding Edge, Minecraft Dungeons, Battletoads, Tell Me Why, As Dusk Falls, Grounded, Pentiment, and Minecraft Legends are all examples of Xbox published games that are smaller in scope and feel different and varied. Towerborne is another game coming next year. Also, while not Xbox-published, I also wanna draw attention to The Gunk as well. On that note, I could be here all day listing off the wacky and interesting smaller games that Nintendo funds. All that being said, I like big-budget stuff, but the smaller stuff is great too.

@Ir-jq5kb

6 ай бұрын

Pentiment is an amazing game for those that like the genre. One of the best games I have ever played. I love how MS doesn't force Obsidian to only make big titles and allows them creative freedom, which resulted in Pentiment which is absolutely amazing.

@x0Fang0x

6 ай бұрын

All of those games are equal to one AAA game in revenue if not more. Sony knows this and as greedy as they are they will follow the min/max revenues.

As soon as consoles go 'digital only' they have lost me forever as a customer.

Splitting up your console into separate versions. Didn't help

Is Microsoft really interested in a new system? Their idea is Game Pass on multiple devices and discontinuing their hardware. It's going to be bad for those who like Sony hardware, if Sony finds itself without competition it won't look at the prices and services tend to be worse. Any brand without competition becomes lazy and expensive.

@SimonM7TV

6 ай бұрын

I agree with you that Microsoft don't seem interested in a new system, but at the same time I don't think gamepass the way they expect to have dibs on the concept will survive letting go of a console ecosystem. I hope they realise that before it's too late, and they've let Xbox as a platform dissolve for no reason. Without that sort of foundational home for their stable of titles, gamepass is such a nebulous pitch all of a sudden. Why would you opt for gamepass on a playstation if Sony simply decide to get their own stuff on ps plus day 1? Would Microsoft at that point expect you to buy a gamepass sub and a Playstation to play Perfect Dark there instead of the newest God of War? There has to be something more to anchor the idea of being into Xbox stuff as a platform, even if they want to untether the platform from hardware. When game streaming gets good enough I think there's a big chance that PC remains but console platforms are completely transposed to an app on your telly or whatever. If you can just get a gamepad for your telly and there's no discernible lag, at that point gamepass without hardware obviously makes 1000% sense, but until we get there I think there needs to be an Xbox *box*, too. And honestly, I think Microsoft realise that as well.

@itsjusterthought7941

6 ай бұрын

The question is why would MS be interested in a new console system. They have been burned so often that it has become embarrassing. MS are a software and network business. Retail hardware manufacturing is not their expertise. They cannot out-console Sony. MS are retreating to what they know best. Software games delivered via a streaming network.

@RyanLBC

6 ай бұрын

the problem is sony is already behind microsoft in that regard. if you read the insomniac leaks, sony has huge concerns against microsoft expanding in the mobile space, where they plan to introduce game pass in the future. especially since microsoft now owns activision which also includes a huge mobile cache of games already made and doing really well. phil spencer has already stated they are not not in it to win the console war but are here to provide the xbox experience on as many devices as they can bring it to mirroring what microsoft has done for years with their windows software. for example, i only have a ps5 and a high end gaming pc. ever since i installed game pass on both my rog ally and pc, i have not touched my ps5. and the only time i use my ps5 is for spiderman 2. @@SimonM7TV

@fxlltxtsearch

6 ай бұрын

You cannot provide a top tier video game experience using streaming. It is not possible when gamers want 1000mhz controllers for the least lag/delay. Theres 0 chance gamers transfer over to computation as a service. Nobody wants to play GTA6 over “stream”. Not fun.

@dodgykebaab

6 ай бұрын

The competition is for entertainment time. So it’ll be Sony VS Nintendo-and that’s a battle that won’t be completely one sided.

If the next Xbox is cloud based and Xbox fans still buy it, I will be astonished.

@NostraSamus

6 ай бұрын

I won’t be that surprised. Xbox fans want the rest of us to share their misery.

@LAMB-CHOPPY-CHOPPY

6 ай бұрын

​@NostraSamus, it's truly amazing how delusional you are 😂

@puregarbage2329

6 ай бұрын

@@NostraSamus 🤣

@NostraSamus

6 ай бұрын

@@CameraGuy2000 Still a better product than anything in Xbox’s lineup lol.

@NostraSamus

6 ай бұрын

@@CameraGuy2000 And you can continue with your xbox fumes, probably some green gas of some kind. The irony and audacity of a pc/xbox supporter discussing games. Get back to port begging.

Despite buying a billion studios, games take so long to make that they still havent been able to put out enough great first party stuff. And the few that have come out have fallen flat. Things won't improve until these games start coming out and delivering

@TheUballe

6 ай бұрын

Bingo -- MS is playing the long-game, which likely won't reach its stride for another 5 years.

@blazer4185

6 ай бұрын

What games have fallen flat? Yes starfield has some lukewarm reviews but other than that what other games have fallen flat that Xbox has released there is redfall too

@iconofsin4578

6 ай бұрын

Forza 8, starfield, hifi rush this year was good

@GeneralS1mba

6 ай бұрын

​@@iconofsin4578didn't really like starfield, but Forza has always been pretty decent and hifi rush was fresh

@danielainger8666

6 ай бұрын

@@iconofsin4578 Starfield is so outdated but if you like that then fair enough but the game is average and will not make people buy and xbox. Forza is okay but not great either.

There's any chance that next gen consoles will be designed mainly for real time pathtracing like in Cyberpunk on PC with high end Nvidia cards?

@MrAden1307

6 ай бұрын

😂😂 They're not PC's and never will be

Let them create a 2nd 360 Era... Clear Generational Cut, New UI, Exclusive Games from the Start AND a MP Online Service that is FREE! I am *All in for THAT in 2026/2027!*

@ArielCleirigh

6 ай бұрын

Its a nice dream but you know devs will take at least 4 years to release a game so more likely will be cross gen you Cant pretend a Full exclusive game in 2026 cause we are almost 2024 so a 2 year game Not going to happen.

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

If they keep losing memberships and xboxs like this they will have no consumer to sell to cause by then the sony ecosystem will be like apples but in gaming

@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701

6 ай бұрын

@@ArielCleirigh That is why I wrote 2026/*2027!*

@gtylerbrown2

6 ай бұрын

Free online and and a clear generational cut (no cross gen) is a pipe dream but id support it if it happens.

@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701

6 ай бұрын

@@gtylerbrown2 I know.... But a Gamer can still *Dream* , right? xD

When you keep repeating "console sales don't matter", then of course people won't care about your console either

@WeeWeeJumbo

6 ай бұрын

they are always lying when they say hardware sales don’t matter. only their boosters in the media pretend to believe

@unnderneath

6 ай бұрын

💀

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

True

Gears of war and halo truly made the 360 era so great.

Sony and Microsoft get almost no money from hardware sales but from software and memberships

I think John hit it right on the head when he said. Microsoft is not concerned with high systems sales because that's not the only place their games are available. They also released them day and date on PC, which is the biggest platform for games. Sony, on the other hand, have to focus on systems sales because their games are available no place else like Nintendo's business model. And we're starting to see from Sony own reports that might not be a sustainable model for them in the long run. Which is why seemingly at this point, Wolverine will be released day and date on PC and PlayStation 5. It will be interesting after Microsoft finished implementing all their investments/plans and putting them in place. How this conversation will change over time?

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

Wolverine will not be day one on PC

@RekathonPrime

6 ай бұрын

@@MichaelM28 Then tell me how is it possible for people to be playing a hack version of it on their PC? I tell you how, because Insomniac was obviously working on a PC version of the game themselves that was playable up to 78% in its pre-alpha state. If it was the PS5 dev kit version, then it wouldn't work on a pc. If it wasn't planned to come out alongside the PS5 version of the game, then it wouldn't be that far long. That would be a waste of money and resources that could be going towards the PS5 version.

@jacobartzavia6096

6 ай бұрын

But don't tell that to fanboys. Let them celebrate and feel like they're actually winning something

@icedcapplord710

6 ай бұрын

​@RekathonPrime I'm 90% sure that wasn't actually the PC version but rather just a dev build they were using PCs to create. This is very common practice for most of if not all AAA games, including first party console games. Another thing is the build was for multiple disconnected levels that appear to be vertical slices to test out the gameplay systems, so this is probably well before they actually produced a playable alpha or beta designed for target hardware

@RekathonPrime

6 ай бұрын

@@icedcapplord710 That's not the case here. The videos were vertical slices but the PC leak is a playable pre-alpha build. The dev unit uses a version of the same Linux based software that a PS5 use. It's not a PC using windows, that's why they have Nixxes Software porting the games over for them. And that's why when they are making games, they have different dev teams working on different versions of the game simultaneously. Otherwise they would just make a PC version from the start and adjust setting across all platforms. Yes hardware wise they are very similar using x86 architecture. But software wise, they're very different. It's like how they have to make a Steam deck version of a game, not because the steam deck can't use windows. But because of the fact it don't use windows by default. It uses Linux and you need to port the games to Linux to get them to work with Steam OS. So the hack version of Wolverine that's floating around is a PC version of the game that Insomniac is developing in house. I would say maybe Nexus software was porting the game simultaneously while Insomniac was working on it, but Nixxes wasn't part of the hack.

First party games on PS5 just look and play very well. Sold my Series X and got a powerful PC instead. I imagine either people own a PC, or planning to get one, which makes modern xboxes pointless...?

@jameswatson5807

6 ай бұрын

Sony games on PC so PlayStation now is pointless.

@Uncagedpaul86

6 ай бұрын

@@jameswatson5807 but PS5 games look better on PS5 than they do on PC

@hanp2205

6 ай бұрын

@@jameswatson5807 not every game comes out on pc lol you talk like the last of us 2 or spiderman 2 are allready on pc they are not and a lot more exclusives wont come on pc day1

@jameswatson5807

6 ай бұрын

@@Uncagedpaul86 Err no I have a hi-spec rig PS5 games are no where near PC, 4k 60fps ultra settings. Sony first party games on PC so no point of PlayStation 5.

@jameswatson5807

6 ай бұрын

@@hanp2205 Did you not get see the insomniac leak they are not making money with AAA exclusives just being on PlayStation they cost to much to make. In the leak the new wolverine games is coming at the same time as the PS5 version, they are copying Microsoft.

I feel like an aggressive, faster, and upgrade driven release schedule would put Xbox ahead again. Consoles have always had a massive disadvantage in the second half of their life cycles and IF Xbox could get the pricing right...faster releases with marketing directly comparing their always newer system to the Playstation's older performance metrics could win back consumers over time. Pricing is key though and I would think some type of upgrade path or program would be needed, a loyalty program if you will to reward Xbox console loyalty across these faster releases.

@RobsRemixes

6 ай бұрын

It would be the dumbest decision ever, if Sony do go ahead and release the PS5 Pro this year which just so happens to be perfect timing for the biggest gaming release ever in GTA 6, everybody and their gran will own a PS5 Pro and have zero interest in buying a “next gen” Xbox a year later.

coming from pc what games does xbox have that warrant a purchase? none that i can see

When big N shunned Sony for Philips during the r&d cycle for the SNES cd drive, N created their own biggest competitor.

@WeeWeeJumbo

6 ай бұрын

i am forever grateful for Nintendo’s onetime-arrogance

@ArielCleirigh

6 ай бұрын

Thanks to Nintendo then.

@thelarry383

6 ай бұрын

@@WeeWeeJumbo "one time" 🤣🤣

@linkvagar2336

6 ай бұрын

They didn't shun Sony at all. They rightfully terminated a deal that would only benefit Sony.

I have an Xbox One S and PS4. I rarely turned on the Xbox One S cause I felt like I had no games to play. on PS4 I played TLOU, Uncharted, Spider-Man, Persona 5 Royal, GoW. Multiplatform games I played on PC. I only used my Xbox One to play old 360 games. I have a PS5 this gen. I would probably buy a Series X if it were super cheap, but even then I think I'd run into the same problem as the Xbox One and just never play it because it just feels like there's nothing play.

I know vr isn’t a Microsoft thing, but it is another option unavailable to you if you choose an Xbox. So perhaps they could do something there. Maybe allow third party manufacturers in, maybe let people plug their quest/rift/pico/lenovo etc in and make it so it works.

Lets face the truth, most people the ones who aren't fighting in comment sections, are playing fortnite, COD and whatever sport sim game. People will stick with whichever hardware has their library.

As much as I don't care about the Xbox or anything relating to it I really do think the Xbox Series X is a wonderful piece of hardware engineering wise and technologically. I really hope they aren't doing this also to make something that's much cheaper and worse quality just to not only get a head up on Sony but due to economical reasons as well. Right now it's probably too risky to lower the price of the Series X due to everything going up in price

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

They've already lowered the price and it's still not selling 😂😂😂

@vinyminotaur2694

6 ай бұрын

​@@MichaelM28Loser

@ryanb3908

6 ай бұрын

​@@MichaelM28Sales are even actually and MS is dominating last place Sony by 100 million subs. 🤦🏻

@xOwlStriKex

6 ай бұрын

10th gen Xbox console would be a smart move in general. It would be better to align with the PC space.

@lilpain1997

6 ай бұрын

@@ryanb3908 sales for consoles is not even at all???

PlayStation: for the players Xbox: power your dreams And dreams is all Xbox has at the minute

@Retro_Gamer_89

6 ай бұрын

PS for the payers get it right

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

@@Retro_Gamer_89 Trashbox for the losers with no games or money

@user-np7vp1ku4s

6 ай бұрын

@@MichaelM28With all that money you better pray Sony can actually compete in the future and not be bought off

@hanp2205

6 ай бұрын

@@user-np7vp1ku4s it would cost microsoft 500 billion atleast to buy sony and they would never do that nor apple nor microsoft would pay that much

@bluemarvel5970

6 ай бұрын

​@@Retro_Gamer_89I agree. As a fan of Sony it's such a shame how they've fumbled in recent years. Not as much as Xbox, but it still hurts to see. Especially with how much they've increased their prices overall.

i didn't know Klaus Schwab was interested in video games

4:25 John makes a great point here. This is the most dull generation we've ever had. Also very good point that this was a weak Sony that Microsoft failed to capitalize on. But in the end we lose for a severe lack of games.

@fcukugimmeausername

6 ай бұрын

It's probably because the consoles are just PC's now and combine that with the cost of game development, publishers are becoming hesitant to take risks. Practically every game is developed using one of the big four/five engines and the different hardware renders visuals so similar the differences are hard to tell apart. So, we have games that all run on the same engines, designed the same way and play and feel the same. Gaming is a boring as Hollywood now.

Well if MS would have led this generation they would have lost to the FTC. So I'm not entirely certain they were interested in being the console leader. Moreso the overall software leader. MS looked at the bigger picture. They are the cloud and device leader not the console leader.

@matthewmenteer5673

6 ай бұрын

FTC had no legitimate case, but I'll completely agree with everything else in your comment. I do think it is bigger thinking picture from Microsoft, with the Xbox One, and now Xbox Series... it's completely generationless, and they are trying to sell games to everyone. I think they just view the Xbox as a dedicated gaming PC amidst a myriad of PC hardware sold by them and the rest of the world. So, I don't think console numbers mean as much as they did as they did during the x360 and ps3 era, because many on non Xbox hardware can play the current games on windows, or steam, or on anything able to run a web browser with gamepass.

No games=no sells.

So how are sales of consoles up but profits are down 60%?

Why does Richard always look like Dr Evil in these thumbnails 🤫

Dude wtf really? PS5 is selling at a discount somewhere? I live in Portugal and just a few days ago walked into an electronics store and ps5 is 450€ for digital and 550€ for physical edition meanwhile Series X was selling at a discount for 350€ bundled with 4 games(Hellblade, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Bleeding Edge and some Minecraft game)

@bluwolf9357

6 ай бұрын

In our country Xbox was NEVER a thing. Sega in the 90's and Sony to this day - dominant brands due to the way the brand and products were managed here. Microsoft with Xbox did nothing for decades to fight for a place in the market so no wonder they are still to this day - after the 360 era - irrelevant.

The power difference between base ps5 and series S not being reflected in the the price is a huge problem

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

Yup. The PotatoBox Series S is terrible value when a PS5 Digital can be had for $100 - $150 more

@Crashed131963

6 ай бұрын

@@MichaelM28 Not if the S-S has a disc drive included for $300.

@madjoe8622

6 ай бұрын

The XSS if for those that don't know nor care about power.

@Incubusnut

6 ай бұрын

The Series S was a massive mistake.

@GeneralS1mba

6 ай бұрын

​@@Incubusnutit was a great move for Xbox, since parents will buy it for their children to play Roblox and Fortnite at 120 FPS, which is an easy way to get profit

s/o oliver, such a great addition to the panels

I own an Xbox One and a decent PC w/ AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT. With Gamepass I typically play installed games on PC, which is optimal. I ply a lot of the newer games with cloud gaming on the Xbox one, and have even enjoyed cloud gaming on my MacBook Pro using a Bluetooth controller. The future, in my opinion, is more effective cloud gaming. Either they enhance the cloud enough to not tell the difference, or they kill the cloud to improve console sales.

Xbox getting a new console so early wouldn't cause the same issue that they had with the Series S and X where developers were having trouble doing both?

@ArielCleirigh

6 ай бұрын

But devs still need to learn all over again how to develop for new xbox console so devkit should be ready for 2025 at least.

"we are removing access to physical games but charging you the same price" Same great value! K?

I'd like an option to run at native resolution with no frame generation. Just saying.

Lovedt series x console. Sold it for a ps5 after the "year of nothing" and then the "redfall" debacle/Phil Spencer interview. No regrets so far. Yeah, i had some games in my digital library with Xbox, felt like console games/customers arent a priority anymore and they lost my (and many more long tome console gamers) business.

@davidandrew6855

6 ай бұрын

Times do change, Microsoft is probably looking *much* bigger picture for the Xbox brand then just competing on hardware, which is why I'm ok with a 2026 release. Sucks a bit to be honest, been there since 2001 with OG Xbox, but I'm old enough to understand the business, for better or worse.

The launch of the Xbox one really hurt the XSX. One thing that surprised me is that people complain so much that xbox does not have exclusives. But before pc gamers were complaining that Microsoft should release the exclusives on PC. Now they do it and the same pc players now complain about xbox not having exclusives. Like what!!?! One way i think could help fix xbox that Microsoft could make try is have the disc games actually play of the disc. Make the console free but raise the price on gamepass a little. If its free people will get it once they get it they will buy gamepass. Make exclusives and not release on PC since the pc gamers want exclusives for xbox 😂.

@MrAden1307

6 ай бұрын

Make the console free is the part you messed up. Business people don't do that. Make it free 🙄

@dnegel9546

6 ай бұрын

@@MrAden1307 guess my mentality is how cellphone providers offer free iphones etc. they could use a similar strategy

Cant wait for phil spencer to step down

New Gen Xbox and ES6, possibly at the same time? Would be a great move by Microsoft if they can pull it off

For perspective, 2026 is a 6 year console generation. The series was launched after 7 years. It’s also possible that they were aware of the reliance on pc technology and that kind of cycle makes the consoles obsolete quicker, as discussed in this video.

@Raiyekiu

5 ай бұрын

The thing is, games will continue to launch on Xbox series, so if you have a game running on series s doesnt matter what next gen feature you have con the next gen, they wont be far off And if they drop the Series consoles the fans will be very angry

not even hackers are interested in cracking the xbox series consoles. ps5 already has multiple hacks and some homebrew.

@ArielCleirigh

6 ай бұрын

Exactly even mods leaving starFail

@SaxonFaust

6 ай бұрын

@@ArielCleirighcoping because it’s not on your platform lmao.

@ArielCleirigh

6 ай бұрын

@@SaxonFaust Time to face Reality pal, Nobody likes starFail

@styls2009

6 ай бұрын

@@ArielCleirigh No one loves you too.

@SaxonFaust

6 ай бұрын

it's a Bethesda game fool. It is definitely worth playing. @@ArielCleirigh

The new Xbox can have 40 tflops of power and still be a flop because of the lack of games. What Xbox needs is new leadership and someone that actually supervises the work of the studios.

@samsolis92781

6 ай бұрын

They have lots of games coming out now. Stop that!! They just need games that are polished and deliver a great GAMEPLAY experience which they haven’t been able to do.

@pjisleta1994

6 ай бұрын

like kick philochio spencer out?

@TheWolfCub71

6 ай бұрын

I have a similar view with my comment i had made. MS/XBOX doesn’t know how to mentor or manage studios, and they don’t know how to make games, so vacuuming up studios basically ruins the IP they end up with.

@Korpus_Draige

6 ай бұрын

Lack of games? Please get out from your rock, it has to be getting heavy by now.

@juanrubio6132

6 ай бұрын

@@Korpus_Draige you are right. Let me rephrase that. Lack of quality games.

Anyone who watches console repair videos knows that none of them are "extremely well-designed", we are going to see how bad SSD wear will be here fairly soon, on both sides.

@TheBotleyBoy

6 ай бұрын

I think it's going to be hard and costly for collectors to keep them running in years to come.

From the people who said they didn't care about the hardware any more? Besides, who honeslly cares that much? Their mythical 'best place to play' advantage never really materialised with the extra power, bar a far higher resolution bounds and the odd fps uptick here and there. I still play most of my multi-plat games on PC, or PS5, despite them sharing a desk space with a Series X.

Its ALL about exclusive games and playstation has a shit ton of them compared to xbox!

@marksilgram80

6 ай бұрын

Plus playstation 5 has the sense controller

@zap7759

6 ай бұрын

I don't see even one game on the PS4 exclusive list I'd go out of my way to play, PS5 list isn't worth mentioning yet. The games seem cringe tbh.

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

@@zap7759Cry harder you salty xbot 🤣🤣🤣🤣

My main issue with consoles today is the requirement, directly or indirectly, for internet connection to servers to download the patches/actual game. Unlike DRM free PC games (when talking about digitals like from GOG), where you can install the game and the patches and play the frelling game without requiring permission from the servers, you can't really do that any more with console games as most of them require patches to be made even playable. Patches which you can't download and save, but instead you have to download them each time you install the game. That for me is one of the reasons I just stopped caring much about consoles after the PS4/XBONE generation. If I am going to have to do all the online connection poop, why not use my PC which I already have and will always have? Why buy a console? For the handful of exclusives which take 6 months to a year if not more to patch to be made worth playing? I rather wait for the PC version and play a finished game. But that's just me. Clearly there are many others who don't think like me on this one. And whenever I post anything like this comment, there are those who come to the defense of said practices like if these companies were more user friendly it would take away from their games. Insanity.

@bellissimo4520

6 ай бұрын

Sadly, I agree very much. I do have a preference for physical media, but at this point, when it comes to games, it's become pointless. Because the game on the Bluray disc usually is buggy as hell and won't play properly without, as you mentioned, some big fat day-1 patches. It's a very sad state of affairs.

@JohnSmith-bt4lf

6 ай бұрын

​@@bellissimo4520physical media can still be resold or traded or borrowed for the most part. Even if the disc only has 1 MB of licensing data and requires a 200GB download, the transferability has not disappeared.

@cmelft2463

6 ай бұрын

As someone who is very much pro physical its a hard pill to swollow. Im not sure if ill be into the next gen but at this stage i try to keep all my games installed and updated in an attempt to future proof. I understand the hdd may fail but looking to clone it somehow Also hopefully by then there will be ways to mod them

In the past a new generation was more of a clean slate but thats not the case anymore. Getting someone to leave behind their game library, trophies and friends is going to take something drastic. Every ps5 sold makes that person more likely to get a ps5 pro or ps6 when they want to upgrade because it will be a drop in replacement for their ps5. its just more convenient.

Sony have proof from time to time since PS1 why they don’t need the most powerful console to win the war, you only need a good enough hardware with the best exclusive lineup which Microsoft clearly lacking.

Add in they can't just drop a new console in 2026. They have to ship out dev units sometime in early 2024 if they want anyone to have enough time to even try to take advantage of any additional hardware power. The one exception I can think of is if all they do is slam in more RAM and a higher clockspeed. Devs would have to do little to nothing to enjoy the new benefits. But the improvements would be limited compared to new beefier CPU/GPU with more cores.

I have one and I love it but everyone in the house says it puts out more heat than the XSX (I think that’s because it shoots most of its heat out laterally instead of straight up regardless of orientation) But we’re scared of the weeping liquid metal so we put it down on its side next to XSX so it takes up 4 times the space and looks ridiculous while it does it. But I really like the exclusives and flying in to an asteroid belt in VR is still one of the greatest moment in gaming I’ve ever had.

Sony proves marketing is key to sales, not the quality of products or services.

This is like a couple getting divorced and thinking having another kid is gonna fix the problem. Not speaking from experience lol

I don’t think this number is overly surprising. I think it’s just a follow on from the previous console generations. People sticking to their brands. They both do very similar things apart from each having a few AAA exclusive titles.

@RobsRemixes

6 ай бұрын

I have a Series X but after the absolute disaster that was Redfall I bought a PS5 in May 2023 and WOW does it feel so much better in almost every way. Came back to Xbox for a few weeks to smash out starfield but I am truly immersed in Sony’s hardware for the first time since the PS2 and honestly, given the option of picking only one “next gen” console I would chose PlayStation every day of the week. I couldn’t imagine saying that just 6 months ago but Xbox’s non stop screwups and severe lack of any first party titles pushed me to be a Sony Pony 😂

We'll, I think the reason Microsoft is targeting a certain date. 🤔 Is due to chipset manufactures like Amd and Invidia. Maybe they know that by a certain time some of these components will cheaper to manufacture eventhough they almost always have a custom chipset. In my opinion, what they should do is make consoles modular, like PCs where you can replace the GPU, or ECU.

We’re 3 years into the Xbox series generation and there are barely any proper current gen games still, they need to make games that actually take advantage of that hardware before they do anything else. If they release a new Xbox in 2026 with no games people will still prefer a ps5 so they can play Spider man 3

It seems Xbox has zero marketing outside of us, i barely see any physical Xbox games nor consoles on electronics shelves in Europe or Middle East shops, in the past piracy was an extremely powerful factor in selling PlayStation but now with no piracy and an expensive price tag PlayStation continues to sell based on presence and marketing

You know what Microsoft play was to compete for this generation was to buy Activision Sony can buy all exclusive games Microsoft buy company in Sony go to the regulators crying that is unfair lost all respect for Sony. And when you ask people why do they buy a PlayStation they have no clue

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

People buy PlayStation because it has objectively better exclusives

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

Microsoft buying Activision is significantly less consumer friendly than Sony buying 3rd party exclusive games as they have the power to make the biggest game in the world xbox exclusive

It comes down to high quality exclusives. Sony has always had that. Once Xbox gets those then things will start to stir up. You can have the ultimate machine to do 12 k or damn 20k but without software it’s nothing . I love Xbox and want them to do better. I love both but I lean more to Sony when it comes to exclusives and third party I get on Xbox mostly

@jukkapiispanen123

6 ай бұрын

This console generation I have only played on Series X.I agree that the first party games from Ms have been sparse,and not all that great,with a few exceptions.Gamepass is my reason for Xbox

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

@@jukkapiispanen123how you play baldurs gate ? And it runs better on the ps5 in perfomance mode xbox hits 37 fps avg wit sony around 45 and its less powerful.. be logical my friend

@jukkapiispanen123

6 ай бұрын

@@fabolousjada5070 I don't play it,not interesred.

That first year of Xbox 360 exclusives is my favorite time in gaming. Only time I ever preordered games. I have a faceplate for The Outfit and an extra large Dead Rising T-shirt that says “Chop till you drop.”

The fact that Xbox didn’t release a digital version with the same specs is what messed them up.

Living in a house with a predominantly ps fiance, as a historic xbox gamer, i can honestly say theres so little different its unreal. Cant fathom how these things have fanboys, its weird how theyre pitted as these great "rivals" instead of just trying to think of fun new stuff that might catch on. Other than 4k, fps boosts and ray tracing, all gens post HD dont seem to be innovating as was the case when i was a teenager. Xbox, ps2 and game cube had very different flavours.

@XhoowieX

6 ай бұрын

That's the big problem for xbox this time though, they're just the same. Sony built up a lead through terrible marketing from Microsoft on the launch of the previous gen, and consolidated that lead in the 2nd half of the gen with some great exclusives. Xbox needed either great exclusives or a much better, or at least different console to close the gap. Being basically exactly the same was the last thing their hardware needed. The stupid fanboys certainly exist, but they don't exist in their tens of millions. They're not the reason the PS5 has outsold the Series by so much.

@MichaelM28

6 ай бұрын

"so little difference its unreal" PS has better games, better controller, best value. Doesn't sound like a little difference

@deanobeany

6 ай бұрын

@@MichaelM28 the controller and games side is subjective, I'm speaking as someone who owns both saying they're such a similar experience. I don't think either one is the "wrong choice"

@Grimmjow86

6 ай бұрын

@@MichaelM28 I really struggle to see the "best value" part of the equation, especially considering that overpriced joke that is the Ps+ subscription when compared to gamepass, and the lack of backwards compatibility. Better games? Subjective. I personally have grown tired of Marvel stuff and the general formula of PS exclusives. Better controller? Yes, I'll give you that, absolutely. That being said, MS needs better direction, and that's a fact.

@solid_justice5855

6 ай бұрын

@@Grimmjow86 not sure where you are from but here both PS+ extra and GP are about the same price for a year. GP might have day 1 exlusives from MS but PS+ extra has more games. So i would say that is what you prefer wich is better value

Everyone is assuming the rumour is true, but I'm not convinced. I don't think MS have anything to gain by delivering another console. The leaked documents reinforced the belief that MS want out of the console race and think streaming is the only way they can build a user large enough to support the engagement they require. I think this idea of a new next gen Xbox console is just wishful thinking with the belief that Xbox would loose another toe to toe fight with Sony, so a release between PS5 Pro and PS6 would be a good strategy. But I don't think that is the plan. I think the leaked specs are for the Azure servers that will render and stream the games to a client app. It fits with Phil Spencer's message. He wants everyone on every platform to be able to play Xbox games. There is only one solution that can do that and it is streaming via a Game Pass app on every device. It's a lot cheaper that developing a next gen console and there is no need to port games to it. Phil does not believe in console gens. An app has no gen. It is just software that gets updated. The server hardware can be continually updated like PC without affecting the users. No gens client side.

@luckyrockmore2796

6 ай бұрын

Agreed, the last thing anyone needs or wants is another advanced tech console with day one broken games

@ 6:15 I completely agree with John. Xbox 360 has one of the best catalogs of games of all time.

Current consoles do and have 95% of the same games. Exclusives, subscription differences and whether your friends are on the same system is what makes a difference. I had a ps3/4 and got into the xbox bandwagon due to gamepass and backward compatibility. I dont feel neither console have created exclusives i really want (uncharted 4 was the seller for me on the ps4 era). Most of the games i have enjoyed recently are simply third party games.

Deadfall and StarField is the reason……… Sold my Series X

@Daniel189HLL

6 ай бұрын

Starfailed?

@Omar-kl3xp

6 ай бұрын

Crazy that at one point there was a lot hype around starField to the point I almost started to believe that Xbox might have been a good competition to the ps5 exclusive games but the way it flopped is insane ,even me as a ps5 player I expected more from starField .

@ArielCleirigh

6 ай бұрын

Again its starFail not starfield.

No exclusive games is killing the Xbox. The hardware is great, but you still need exclusives.

@dnegel9546

6 ай бұрын

I remember back when xbox had exclusives. All you would hear is xbox should release their exclusives on PC since its a Microsoft product. Now pc gamers complain that theres no exclusives. 😑

@transformersloverjon

6 ай бұрын

Exclusives are cancer. Consoles are a scam.

@fantoniumnitrous

6 ай бұрын

@@transformersloverjon Exclusives benefit dude.

Appreciate my physical copies. Games, DVDs, CDs.

Sony dropping further support for Dreams made me lose interest in PlayStation.

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

Dreams ? 😂😂😂 thats how i know you lying

@styls2009

6 ай бұрын

@@fabolousjada5070 I feel you are irritated by his comment.

@DrJones20

6 ай бұрын

@@fabolousjada5070 Don't you dare talk badly about Dreams

The issue with Xbox Series S is that Microsoft clearly didn't think Sony was going to release a $400 PS5. Coming out at that price point with the same power across both sku's meant that both the XSX & XSS were over priced, especially when you consider the more powerful console on paper in Xbox often gets outpaced or exceeded in stability & performance by the PS5. Then XSX with no major exclusive games at launch and now it was never going to be successful against PS5. Microsoft needs to drop the Xbox Series X to $400 and the Xbox Series S to $200 in major markets globally.

@adamkallin5160

6 ай бұрын

I think I remember reading Microsoft did expect the PS5 to come in at $400, and the strategy was to offer a cheaper and also a more powerful alternative instead. What they didn’t expect was that the PS5 would be as powerful as it was. Doesn’t matter much imo. The PS5 was only available in the the $500 version for a long time and Microsoft still got their asses handed to them.

@CreativeGeoff

6 ай бұрын

This is a good take. I also think releasing all of their first-party games on PC also hindered its success. Series X/S is both useless and a must-have console at the same time. I feel as though Phil is only concerned about selling subscriptions rather than actually pushing hardware. It's evident when you look at the design of Series X -- it's a boring black box, and nothing about it screams next-gen, same controller and UI. It's almost like they're being strategic at making the console fail to justify the acquisitions of other studios.

@Crashed131963

6 ай бұрын

The PS5 is $500 nobody in their right mind will buy a console that can't play disc games to only save $50 .

@ZeitGeist_TV

6 ай бұрын

@@Crashed131963 In 2020 the PS5 debuted with two sku's one of which was $400 which I bought and own and only only play 1st party titles. They only just increased the price to $450 on the digital only which can be converted into the full fledge blu-ray disc system. Also your statement of no body in their right mind would buy digital just to save $50 wrong again as when it comes to kids and in this inflated economy parents will buy what they can afford at the moment for their kids. You can make opinionated statements if you want but at least back up your assertion with facts in regards to what's selling and the ratio with facts as each market is different in regards to sales for each system and the respective sku. If it wasn't selling it wouldn't exist let alone get a price increase.

@Crashed131963

6 ай бұрын

@@ZeitGeist_TV You leave yourself out of the Used ps4 and Ps5 game markets. Example-) I bought a Spider-Man disc from a bargain bin for $15. that game is still $60 on PS Store digital . So many used Ps4 games that have the free 4k/60fps patch for the Ps5 . The extra cost for the disc version can be made up in buying 2 used disc games .

It's not new hardware they need, it's fucking decent exclusive games. Their HW is fine. They'll never learn. The differences between the cross gen GT7 and the 'built from the ground up' (😂) Forza are pretty embarrassing tbf.

@ArielCleirigh

6 ай бұрын

Yes GT7 kicking Forza ass all day.

So when you all find out that sony counts psvr2 & portal sales as a ps5 sale, and there are 15+ million sitting in warehouses, what's next? Moving those goalposts & narrative im sure 😉 Its why their exclusive attach rate isnt near expectations. There are Not 50 million Ps5s in homes. If you think sony gives honest #'s, you're beyond delusional. Ask their board members what they think about console sales compared to actual profits 😂😂😂

@fabolousjada5070

6 ай бұрын

Umm no lol Xbox doesnt sell period in other countries

Apple gaming strategy is the best. Make no games, but make 17 billion

A new generation of console two years ahead of time, the current console is being outsold by the other two video game companies....sounds like Xbox gave up on the Series consoles already.

Another xbox will not help Microsoft 😂 when will they learn? Microsoft after the 360 lost their vision of what gaming is and what its suppose to be. On top of that, their whole goal was to windows on a console which is thr dumbest idea ever because windows doesn't fit in a console economy system. Always online, DRM, no first party games, no new an creative games are being, I can go on forever from a hardcore gamer perspective and thrbmany things Microsoft is doing wrong. It's funny how I can see it but they can't 😂. You want to know why Microsoft isn't successful with thr xbox brand? Watch the xbox documentary power on. Once I seen that documentary, I lost so much respect for Microsoft. They were never passionate about video games. Only a handful of people within Microsoft were true gamers and were big fans of the playstation and nintenso brands that brought the xbox dream to life, which almost didn't happen because of Microsoft. Microsoft needs to bring back those true hardcore gamers back under their umbrella, that will lead them into a winning position.

weird, the ps5 hasn't been on sale once in the usa, always same price.

Wait till Sony put the game prices up,but eh it's up to you what you want to buy,,

I think that Microsoft is making a mistake assuming that everyone will jump on board the new system just like they did with X360. By the time X360 came out, there was a real demand for a new gen console, especially given that PS2 was severely outdated performance-wise just a few years after it released simply because it wasn't a very powerful system to begin with. And still it took tremendous effort on MS part to deliver games on top of X360 being one year earlier to the party, cheaper and more powerful than PS3 to challenge Sony. I just don't see it happening again.

@davidandrew6855

6 ай бұрын

I disagree, respectfully of course. A shake up in the gaming industry is what is truly needed. Having consoles released 12-24 months apart could work very well. I also don't think Microsoft care to compete on hardware, it is not something that provides a massive ROI. I could see a console released holiday 2026 time frame that is legitimately 4x the compute ability of Series X, that people would want. If Microsoft can find a creative way to bundle their services with the hardware, which we all know is what Microsoft really wants as they are not truly a hardware company, it could be something very interesting. At some point soon I think, we will have diminishing returns on hardware capability. If an XboxNext can hit 4k/60 with RT high, I think that is more than enough for most gamers. If it can do 1440p/120 for competitive gamers, I think that is a win as well, considering most will not have TVs that do more than 120hz.

It's rarely been the case that the most powerful console 'wins' a generation.

@Hi-levels

6 ай бұрын

Yeah ps4 pro runs games smoother than one x like in elden ring... despite having weaker hardware.. lol. The whole teraflop stuff was BS... i just spent 230 usd on a 7500mb tlc dram ssd 4tb for ps5. Good luck with xbox x... Also has an amazong vr headset now.

@RobsRemixes

6 ай бұрын

@@Hi-levelsThe same as iPhones getting much better benchmark scores despite having less powerful hardware than the likes of Samsung. It’s all about how you optimise. I’ve always seen Xbox as android and Sony as IPhone. Sony might be late to the party with certain things, but when they do it, they do it right.

@Hi-levels

6 ай бұрын

@@RobsRemixes same brother. Sony reefs of quality and stability. And they dont release software updates to lower performance to sell new devices ( as consoles last around 7 years) so even better lol. Many people in my country went with xbox x despite sony was dominant here in consoles, because of game pass. Then sony came up with extra and deluxe. Now they want a ps5 so bad... And i dont understand the hate for ps5 for not having more exclusive games. For many people buying a console isnt for exclusive games. I like playing cod in my ps5 despite having a 3090 pc...

I wonder if they’d ever abandon AMD for Intel and Nvidia.

Xbox 360 was fundamentally successful because it had AAA exclusives. Halo 3, ME 1 and 3, Bioshock, GoW 1 2 3, Forza series and much more. What is a AAA exclusive? 1) it's ONLY on console, and only your brand. 2) Even if there are PCs more capable, so much money and quality staff are thrown at a console project that it defines a generation in terms of what games can be like and uses peak technology. Xbox has pushed away pretty much all the devs that made those 360 games. I also can't find games like FF16 that have zero political ESG score BS in them, push the machine, and have unique and amazing gameplay and a captivating and incredible story/characters. It's simple Xbox. Make cutting edge games with focus on plot instead of politics, fun ganeplay loops instead of live service plans, and if games pass forces you to make cheap and boring games that focus on live service elements then drop it and sell real games again. Wtf happened to Halo, wtf happened to Forza, wtf happened to Redfall, wtf happened to GoW? I'll tell you what happened... chasing large audiences, no passion in management, "monetizTion" and making sure your games all meet ESG score friendly check boxes. Hint hint... diversity requirements and left wing ideologies didn't create Seargent Johnson. It's as simple as look at the real world, look at your audience, and make characters and stories that are relatable and consequential. Also, to Zag where Sony Zigs... make online gaming free, NOT the games.