1. I’m sure this is 99% marketing speak 2. I guarantee this is referring to AI

@arcadeportal32

3 ай бұрын

I almost 100% there going to add a snapdragon in there and add Windows arm edition. So they can bolster Windows ARM support

@TimDespairBear11

3 ай бұрын

they said the same thing about Xbox one x and Xbox series X.

@BasePuma4007

3 ай бұрын

So much AI talk these days is nonsense marketing speak.

@SirSomnolent

3 ай бұрын

AI done well with a good sdk would alone be pretty amazing. Just actually speaking to NPCs even if they were occasionally insane would be a game changer.

@jbway86

3 ай бұрын

3. A wholeheartedly agree with both points 1 and 2.

It's simple: if the next console has, for instance, 20TF, then no console has ever increased power by more than 8TF.

@leoncarter9641

3 ай бұрын

It really is that simple and I don't know why more people cant understand this.

@AzaiaMonota

3 ай бұрын

Tflops mean nothing like 20 of what exactly just saying 20 means nothing

@adonisds

3 ай бұрын

@@AzaiaMonota That's my point. They can always claim it's the biggest jump by some meaningless but accurate bullshit metric

@elchemyst

3 ай бұрын

ya, you are right

Ps1 to ps2 was the biggest shock in graphics to me. When i first saw gran turismo 3 i shit myself 😮😮😮😮

@robertcarr4172

3 ай бұрын

Some good times back then. My teen self was convinced that silent hill 2 looked like real life 😂

@utternonsenseproductions2415

3 ай бұрын

I bet that stunk as well

@jbway86

3 ай бұрын

Same with GameCube. I'll never forget Nintendos Space World 2000 show. I'll never forget that footage between Link and Ganondorf fighting. I thought that was the most technological advancement in rendering I've ever seen. In my mind that was far better than Dreamcast, and im lifelong devoted Dreamcast fanatic. I watched that demo an innumerable amount of times. Crazy we have rendering now that far exceeds that.

@stickboy8219

3 ай бұрын

Mine was going from snes to N64 as a kid I said this can't get any better when playing Mario 64

@Blasko86

3 ай бұрын

That era in general. Going from N64 to Xbox was crazy lol 👍

Gears of war on xbox360 was pretty impressive

The biggest tech leap for consoles would be less ads and free online gaming.

@vandammage1747

3 ай бұрын

Nah just remove forced pc crossplay...

@tupadre6433

3 ай бұрын

We never getting free online play back

@d8l835

3 ай бұрын

Less ads? Ads on console?

@tupadre6433

3 ай бұрын

@@d8l835 XBOX UI is full of ads afaik

@d8l835

3 ай бұрын

@@tupadre6433 has it gotten that bad? Jeez I haven't booted up my Xbox in a long while now, I mostly play my Xbox games on PC gamepass now. That's a damn shame. Trillion dollar company has to run ads on their platform to stay 10000000x richer than everyone else...

It means games with ads, always online DRM, and no physical media.

@saesang352

3 ай бұрын

@user-yc7ws9jp9g aka always online drm

@jeandelafuente1

3 ай бұрын

That was the plan with the series X/S but then they "change their mind" because people where not happy

Gaming since the NES in the late 80’s, at this point I don’t care about graphics just about the games.

we don't need big leaps right now. with UE 5 we have enough graphics, we need BETTER GAMES. something that smells fresh

@cargorunner9960

3 ай бұрын

smells fresh and doesn't have a million loading screens !

@TheCrazeturk

3 ай бұрын

We need leaps in physics, draw distance and anything that actually enhances the gameplay

@cargorunner9960

3 ай бұрын

@@TheCrazeturk 100% agree. And no more jarring pop in. Especially whole object pop in like you see in Halo Infinite. You fly around the open world and all these trees suddenly appear out of nowhere. Totally kills any type of immersion.

@AnDre-fj5lb

3 ай бұрын

@@TheCrazeturk UE 5 already solves most of those issues

@Teja

3 ай бұрын

@@cargorunner9960loading screens is an issue only with Xbox games

Whatever it means, I don’t believe them. Their whole schtick on the Series X being the most powerful console has realistically been nothing but a letdown. It doesn’t do anything particularly better than the competition, they haven’t done anything to instill confidence, and they don’t do anything to try and innovate. Just on paper specs that sound impressive but are just hot air in practice.

@Hdio99

3 ай бұрын

very tipical american vs the reliable japonese

@billpogi23

3 ай бұрын

💯💯💯

@Decadent_Descent

3 ай бұрын

@@Hdio99 Like WW II? Oh wait, too soon?

@JO-hs1ue

3 ай бұрын

​@@Decadent_Descentbooooo

@squiddly007

3 ай бұрын

I think this year we are going to start seeing what these new consoles can do. The problem this gen has had so far is covid plus the longest cross-gen period ever.

Simple answer. They measure the leap in absolute and not relative terms. 10TFlops faster is still the biggest leap (which holds for any generation in absolute terms).

@shamanahaboolist

3 ай бұрын

Gotta be. I'm pretty sure marketing is happy to forget about the diminishing returns.

My hesitation is Sarah was also the person who called Starfield “the most important RPG ever made”, so I get the feeling her comms team just likes hyperbole and don’t really care about delivering on it

@jackd6148

3 ай бұрын

I really enjoy playing starfield on my series x.

@glenmcl

3 ай бұрын

Sarah is not good for xbox. She's the xbox version of Kathleen Kennedy (Star Wars)

IDK why people take these marketing speech so seriously

It means less exclusives, as always.

I think people are getting a little tired of Xbox overpromising and under-delivering. They promised the "most powerful console" this generation but the Series X performs identically (for the most part) against the PS5, sometimes better and sometimes even worse. What we need is more games and better quality games, then they might actually sell some units. What's the point of having the best hardware if there aren't enough games to play on it? Enough with the marketing gimmicks and give us what we want.

@vandammage1747

3 ай бұрын

Also the low standards. Xbox needs to mandate 60fps like sony

@bradleylansiquot298

3 ай бұрын

Well of late it's been crazier because their own xbox owned studios are releasing games that have better visuals on ps5

@cun7us

3 ай бұрын

@@bradleylansiquot298 true, but we're talking very minor differences like shadow detail and draw distance you would only notice side-by-side and zoomed in. It's still not a good look for Xbox and they really need to improve their quality control if they want to be taken seriously.

@bradleylansiquot298

3 ай бұрын

@@cun7us yeah but it's not a good look for the worlds most powerful console. Their messaging/marketing needs to improve. However I do believe they need that head start next generation and they will win it once they can output proper exclusives on a regular basis. With the amount of studios they own now that should be achievable once managed properly.

@cun7us

3 ай бұрын

@@bradleylansiquot298 yes. I'm fairly optimistic about all the new studios under their wing, I just hope the games deliver and run well. The announcement of Hellblade 2 being capped at 30fps is kind of disappointing, but the graphics look incredible so I'm still going to play it.

Microsoft claimed the same about "the world's most powerful console" yet here we are...

@MrBeefTot187

3 ай бұрын

It is but devs suck Sonys c&ck

@bamban_garcia5562

3 ай бұрын

@@MrBeefTot187 Just saying it's not Sony forcing devs to build around a weaker system as the foundation they must work on or risk not being funded, sponsored or promoted solely due a console parity clause

@Pointman11111

3 ай бұрын

@@MrBeefTot187 and other devs dont suck MS' c0ck enough

@halofreak1990

3 ай бұрын

@@bamban_garcia5562 the problem is Sony's parity clauses, banning improvements to a game by virtue of it running on more powerful, competing hardware. Looking purely at the numbers, the Xbox Series X holds a 40% advantage over PS5 in graphics processing power, yet you see none of that, no higher resolution, no smoother frame rates, nada, because Sony doesn't allow it. Microsoft didn't/doesn't have such clauses, which is why last-gen games virtually always looked and ran better on the PS4, compared to the Xbox One. For me, if I were a game developer, such clauses would mean dropping PlayStation as a platform, sales be damned, because I refuse to produce a game that doesn't make the most of the hardware platform it runs on. For last gen, that would have meant, assuming I limited the platform support to just Xbox and Playstation, I would have four slightly different versions of a game, with Xbox One X running at 4K60, PS4 Pro at 1800p60, PS4 at 1080p60 and the base Xbox at, probably, 720p60, depending on what the actual hard limits are for the game in question. If you approach this situation like you'd do for PC games, which have countless hardware variations, you won't necessarily be doing any extra work outside of QA testing each version, so it's not like it's too much effort (unless you're not planning a PC version, though just taking the PC approach even for consoles may make sense if you'd want to optimize for each configuration)

I wonder if this relates to the talks about “Xbox as a PC”, with more open system to include other stores. Especially if they figure out a way to run PC-only and DOS based games on Xbox… That could arguably be a huge leap from the console perspective (tho obviously not from PC perspective)

@G360LIVE

3 ай бұрын

"Xbox as a PC" would simply be a PC with the Xbox name on it. Seriously, it wouldn't make sense for Microsoft to spend the money to make two versions of a game (Xbox version and PC version) when they only need to make a PC version. That would bring costs down a bit. And since Xbox One games are already available on PC, Microsoft would only have to do three things: 1) Make an OG Xbox and Xbox 360 emulator for PC to bring back compat games over to PC, 2) Give owners of Xbox One digital games a free copy of their games on PC to bring their Xbox One library forward, and 3) Merge Xbox Game Pass with PC Game Pass. That's it. And if Microsoft does do "Xbox as a PC", then the closed Xbox platform would be gone, and Xbox online gaming would become free (because PC users won't pay for online gaming, as they've shown Microsoft in the past).

@Mrtwistedblack

3 ай бұрын

Xbox could just become a new form of PC branding.

@saesang352

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s smart. Build a PC handheld, then everyone installs Steam and Microsoft collects $0. Or better yet they just install steam deck OS lol

@TechRyze

3 ай бұрын

@@G360LIVE 'only'

@jonathanhensley4883

3 ай бұрын

​@saesang352 this is just complete spitballing a scenario because I have 0 clue on financials of either company, but I wonder if there's a way this plays out where there's some kind of partnership between Xbox/Steam with revenue share where Xbox has both their store and Steam store on the platform. Xbox brings Steam to the all the millions of console players and the ability to play on their PC, their PC handheld, their Xbox on their home TV. Considering how small the Xbox playerbase is compared to PS, they may stand to make more revenue partnering with Steam than they will keeping their platform closed.🤷‍♂️

It is, as Alex says ‘marketing’. I mean how can anyone trust what MS says after the whole ‘power of the cloud’ nonsense.

@jackd6148

3 ай бұрын

You must be a pony.

It doesn't matter if studios make crappy games, most important is creators and quality of content, technical things is the cherry on the cake

@G360LIVE

3 ай бұрын

Yes, and creators are leaving Microsoft, like Shinji Mikami, Tameem Antoniades, and I heard a few Playground Games people left as well. Even Joe Staten doesn't want to stay with Microsoft, not even to work on Halo.

Whatever it is, it doesn't matter without the games to back it up. You'd think the last two gens would have made them realise...

@Drstrange3000

3 ай бұрын

It is why the Switch still is as successful as it is despite being very underpowered. It has a great library of games.

@spazco8669

3 ай бұрын

@@Drstrange3000 EA make more money than nintendo. Hugely successful console but they aren't even close to Ms and sony in terms of income.

@jackd6148

3 ай бұрын

Yes, for children.

@xburk550

3 ай бұрын

I guess Microsoft spending over 90 Billion on studios has nothing to do with learning from the past. Huh

@Teja

3 ай бұрын

@@xburk550yep. Because Xbox fans thought Microsoft buying abk meant exclusives and esp Call of Duty will be exclusive to stick it up to PlayStation But now they’re porting their best exclusive games to PlayStation 5 it’s not going to stop

"NBA Live 07 PlayStation 3 Video" on youtube displays what to me was perhaps the biggest generational leap. I was amazed by that back in the day.

That means we will finally get full 1080p in newer games which are less advanced than some PS2 era projects. It is modern gaming financial pyramid of an industry, nothing means anything

Lets face facts, between the DC, PS2, GC, Xbox, PS3, 360, Wii, was the greatest years of gaming

@sendpizzaplz6995

3 ай бұрын

Just say the 6th and 7th generations. Way less of a mouthful 😅

@cargorunner9960

3 ай бұрын

I have to give credit to Playstation the PS4 has the best software library ever. It has beaten the PS2 library and the PS4 is still going strong. The only competitor would be the switch. You can get excellent examples of any genre you want on the PS4.

It's almost like you think Microsoft has forgotten its gaming division.

@MilLFeuilles

3 ай бұрын

Microsoft is soon to be the biggest publisher in gaming in terms of games released per year

@spazco8669

3 ай бұрын

@@MilLFeuilles yup, they just beat apple and sony so only tencent left. Gaming is now their third largest business beating windows.

Micrsoft really should change their corporate motto to "Just keep waiting."

I'd figure they are pivoting to Arm instead of X86. Especially with that forward compatibility thing they recently announced.

@user-yd1qk9kw9n

3 ай бұрын

LMAO all Xbox consoles are windows 10 underneath

@orijimi

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-yd1qk9kw9n And MS has definitely got a portion of their workforce doing the same sort of work Apple did to get M1s working. But no, I doubt that the next console would use ARM. Sooner we'd see NVIDIA silicon in the next Xbox.

Xbox could put a 4090 into their next xbox, but what's the point if their first party line up is non-existent as their current output this generation?

@vullord666

3 ай бұрын

That's just... wrong. You can say their first party output is bad, but they've put out far FAR more first party games than Sony and I think even more than Nintendo since 2020 (in terms of first party exclusives alone definitely less than Nintendo but still more than Sony even with the four going multiplatform). Sony's first party output in comparison has been abysmal. Again, much greater argument in terms of quality which is subjective and Sony tends to please larger audiences more. But in terms of output you must actually be joking. Just search a list of first party games Xbox put out in the past 4 years. In 2021 they were metacritics highest rated publisher. And it's not like it's all AA or AAA games either. 2023 alone: Hi Fi Rush, Age of Empires 2 and 4 DE (ported to console/both also released this gen to PC tho), Minecraft Dungeons, Redfall, Starfield, Forza Motorsport, and that's all the while ignoring live service updates. In comparison Sony's ONLY first party release (again ignoring destiny 2 live service) was Spider-Man 2. Actually I think there was also Horizon DLC. Maybe something for VR too but that's it. Xbox has the output nailed to be honest. I think they need to stop all their studios from releasing in the fall (seriously forcibly delay games to have stuff in the spring if you need to 😂) and they need to do more for quality control (they seem to have trouble finding the sweet spot between hands off and micromanaging), but the sheer quantity is there. Especially now that the PC studios are unified under Xbox and games go both ways. 2021was similarly insane between psychonauts 2, Forza horizon, halo infinite, flight sim, and I think Minecraft dungeons (forget when it dropped). 2020 and 2022 saw quieter but still great releases. And no "that's from buying studios and publishers" isn't an argument against that. People seem to have this really incorrect memory with Xbox. Prior to their buying spree (which started around 2015) they had less than HALF the studios of Sony and Nintendo. Their first party and in house focus was abysmal and then so many of those were fragmented between Xbox and PC. Say what you want, but internally they really turned things around and that's really shined through in their current output. Microsoft went from wanting to cut off Xbox at every earnings call to investing more in it than any business, and now Microsoft Gaming (another unification effort) is the biggest game company by employee number. Xbox Game Studios alone (so ignoring Zenimax and ABK) has become a strong force to reckon with but even that is only because of studio acquisitions. Like even prior to their closing studios like Lionhead, they never had that much in-house development studios. Tl;dr: What are you smoking 😂

@dusermiginte4647

3 ай бұрын

Wow, what a pony joke. Microsoft own 34 game studios now and many HUGE IPs. Sony released 1 first party game lst year. Sony is releasing..... Is it zero(?) first party games this year.. How many first party games did Microsoft release last year and will release this year? You got no clue, do you? 😂

@Pointman11111

3 ай бұрын

@@vullord666 not reading all that shied but Ms said the most powerful cons- uhh Xbox ever made And after 2 yrs Horizon forbidden west on the weaker PS5 still hasn't been beaten visually by any open world game

Prob just means more marketing BS or it will have tech that will never gets used by the games made for it

Doesn't matter what microsoft do with the next xbox, the PS6 will still destroy it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Super Nintendo to ps1 ,N64 and dream cast is the biggest jump from pong in the 70s to 1994

A big technological leap for consoles and pc also would be to optimise game development to run properly on the hardware it was designed for. We have so many unoptimized games that could run much, much better than they do if they were well optimized. They're trying to run the games properly by brute forcing with hardware and that's not right. I can't understand how games from the previous generation can run at 60fps flawlessly and games from the current gen cannot even run properly at 30...

In order to really be the biggest generational leap ever, it would have to render next gen path tracing @4K 120FPS natively (NO upscaling/frame gen/ai reconstruction) in more than 80% of all the games launched during that generation. In late 2028/early 2029 Nvidia would have the RTX 7000 series in the market, so native 4K path tracing should be easy for that time, and 120hz TVs will have more than 10 years in the market, so they will be pretty much the standard/common tech.

If you're including all major consoles in each generation there have been few real notable "generational leaps". PS1 to PS2 sounds impressive but from N64 to Dreamcast to PS2 was a relatively smooth progression, evidenced by the number of N64/DC and DC/PS2 multiplatform releases.

(2013) Don Mattrick: Behold. The Power of the Cloud! (2028) Sarah Bond: Behold. The Power of the Cloud!

Everyone is talking about the consoles when it’s broken, unoptimized, incomplete, and boring games being shoved out the door that’s the issue. Power means nothing when the games are shit, or are not even there.

@sean8527

3 ай бұрын

So true!!

@spaghebbio

3 ай бұрын

Yea what happens when Microsoft releases the Series P or whatever in 2026 and then doesn't launch a single game that shows off what it can do until after the more powerful ps6 is out in 2028? It sounds ridiculous that that could happen but that's what happened this generation. Hellblade 2 looks like it's going to be the first Xbox exclusive that really looks and feels next gen and that's coming out 3.5 years after the series x launched. We're probably going to be getting Sony first party games on the PS5 pro that look better than what will be early cross gen games coming out on the new Xbox at the same time.

@Drstrange3000

3 ай бұрын

Their best games seem to be their AA lineup. All of their big, AAA games are as bland as stale bread.

@ARH0101

3 ай бұрын

All I’m saying is that the Nintendo Switch proves my point perfectly.

@Drstrange3000

3 ай бұрын

@@ARH0101 Yes! The Nintendo Switch snapped me out of the spell of being obsessed about power. It is my favorite console now.

There is literal no possible way they beat snes to n64, that’s a factor of 50. That would be enough to create perfect realism at 120 fps 8k with no optimization from the devs, they would never have to make another console again. They could do a tenth of that and it would be serviceable forever. Also, it’s impossible.

Here's my take: The next generation of consoles will play the games for you. You wont even have to play, you can watch your AI self smash those high scores and achievements for you!

This happened in '95-2001. Graphics improvements by comparison have been minor ever since.

They just mean you find the most powerful gun in the world on the battlefield. But it's got no ammo!

I don't care that much about next gen graphics since the current gen consoles are more than capable of handling stunning titles like Horizon Forbidden West. If the next gen is just an small percentage better than that, that would ok for me. It's how good games actually are what is important IMO.

I think that she speaks about IA, not IA in console, but IA in DEV KIT . Today the problem is the Time and the Cost to making Games, IA can help.

That long E3 trailer for Metal Gear Solid 2 will always be the "biggest leap in gaming" for me even if it's not technically true. Honestly the jump from 2D to 3D will never be surpassed in terms of being a technological revolution.

The leap they're talking about is bringing back VHS tapes, since there's no more technological progress that can be made.

@miguelroman4294

3 ай бұрын

Lol, damn VHS making a comeback! 😁

@theconsolekiller7113

3 ай бұрын

@@miguelroman4294 Can't wait to check out Black Buttcrack Tales again. Classic film.

@izaac7777

3 ай бұрын

Of course there can. In game Ai scripts for npcs, Ai procedural generated worlds and npcs. Anything Ai in game is the next technological advancement. Imaging Ai being so good and efficient at generating new and unique quests in game in real time. It would make the whole game come alive.

@theconsolekiller7113

3 ай бұрын

@@izaac7777 Not only that but bounce physics. People are totally forgetting about real time bounce physics. Imagine bodacious booties but with AI pixel sharpening around each nano molecular doohicky.

@ashtondillard6906

3 ай бұрын

That’s not entirely true, we are on like the breaking point of photo real graphics but we aren’t quite there yet. Mostly in true 4k and path tracing. We still don’t have the technology to run native 4k with path tracing beyond like a 2000 rtx 4090. So I think that if the next Xbox could be 4080 or 4090 level it’ll definitely be a massive leap.

If they havent shown you yet that their words are not to be trusted, i dont know how to help you

@jackd6148

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I agree. Sony lies a lot!

@Teja

3 ай бұрын

Yep xbox as always TERAFLOPS, VELOCITY ARCHITECTURE blah blah Meanwhile 90% of 3rd Party AAA run look and play better on ps5 While 100% of Xbox 1st party posted to ps5 so far are BETTER in every way on ps5 like Sea of thieves, Ghostwire Tokyo, HiFi rush Xbots love that snake oil Meanwhile Sony delivered what it promised 60fps standard, use kraken decompression greatly in games to reduce load times to a second *coighs* Starfield , games with RAY TRACING There’s not a single current gen Xbox game with Ray tracing and add to that load screen galore and 30fps, the next gen xbix will again be a smokescreen DOA

@bartonlynch

3 ай бұрын

@@Teja True words of wisdom, sir.

@dustineffler7658

3 ай бұрын

You're not 100% Wrong! But Xbox is Running more Games with Unreal Engine 5 compared to the PS5 using 4! Also I have nothing against Playstation! We're All Gamers at the End of the Day 100% :)

Imagine AI in a game.. having to wait 2-3 seconds after each input to get the answer back from the AI.

They refering to their mobile console, in reference to the current ones.

Maybe the don’t mean percentage but the amount of Tflops itself. Like 4 to 10 is 6 increase but 10 to 30 is 20. So 14 tflops higher jump than ps4 pro to ps5

Be interesting if they added a usb-c/display port as the primary video out in order to raise the fps passed 120 on monitors potential for 2k at 240fps for around $500-$600 sounds good to me but I’d imagine that would be an expensive upgrade 🤷🏼‍♂️

I think there is a marketing trick behind this.. We immediately think about a giant leap for the console as a whole, but all they need to do is improve significantly on a single functionality to render their statement to be true. Such as enabling AI (because no other console have had AI capabilities before, so therefore it is a big leap).

They say that every year

@bellissimo4520

3 ай бұрын

Just like "next year we'll have the most amazing games... just you wait!!!"

Never saw these guys mocking the Magic SSD rhetoric from Sony.

Microsoft will sell small hadron colliders as home consoles.

60 fps at NATIVE 1080p

They mean absolutly nothing by it it's nothing but marketing fluff and hype words

@jcdenton41100

3 ай бұрын

The next Xbox will have the biggest leap in technology ever. You console warriors will keep crying though.

@pixeljauntvr7774

3 ай бұрын

​@@jcdenton41100 "Leave Xbox alone! He's a nice guy!" 😢😢😢😢😢

@AzaiaMonota

3 ай бұрын

@@jcdenton41100 Every gen the leap gets smaller and smaller

@jcdenton41100

3 ай бұрын

@@AzaiaMonota Not for Xbox it gets bigger and bigger Xbox is gonna take over the whole market and dominate.

@AzaiaMonota

3 ай бұрын

@@jcdenton41100 It's going to be the smallest leap we've ever seen

It means nothing, and statements like that are becoming a joke coming from MS.

Means the same as "the most powerful console in the world" and "eats monsters for breakfast" and "high definition pixels" and "4K/60fps on all games" and… you get it, right? Same ol' Microsoft PR Bullshit.

"We won't be out of position on power or price this generation". That was partly true, but didn't age well over time.

Weve been striving for realism since the days of the first Xbox. Maybe its not becoming more realistic, maybe its finally the next breakthrough. We went from larger games, to 3D, to realism. Maybe its whatevers next, since motion controls and VR didnt take off like they thought.

They mean "resolution and frame rates we've never seen before, like never seen before" *YAWNNNNN*

In reality, it doesn't matter how advanced the next Xbox series consoles are gpu tech-wise if they can't deliver meaningful exclusives Sony will still win on a console half as powerful because they will deliver more meaningful exclusives like they have every generation prior since the ps1. It's like having tricked out luxury car with no one there to drive it. Xbox needs to put more RND into backing themselves and their developers into making quality exclusives that can only be played on Xbox like they had on the first Xbox. I mean they had the rights to some Sega exclusives yet they never capitalized on it.

I think the release of NES and Sega Master System - that was the hugest jump in history^^...actually games had visuals worth claiming they are visuals.

Imagine a personalized AI "Player" unique to each xbox that learns you and is able to play coop with you. That's the direction I see them going to show a true technical leap in our current world of diminishing returns on visuals.

@ekram1v135

3 ай бұрын

People as always will joke about it and say xbox players have no friends or can’t touch grass, people will always do that.

@G360LIVE

3 ай бұрын

That's nothing new. Even back in '70s, arcade games would have an attract mode in which the game would play itself, and there are some games that have an AI co-op player because certain objectives must be met in the game by at least two players.

Steam epic and windows on the next Xbox will be the greatest technical leap

@Guy_of_king

3 ай бұрын

Also possible Xbox hardware is a mini pc instead of console?

@Herringboner

3 ай бұрын

​​@@Guy_of_kingVery possible and I'd say likely. It you havent checked out SFF builds lately. Do it. They can pack power for size now. By 2028 i see a functional version of windows on console size PCs.

@jackd6148

3 ай бұрын

It's going to happen.

@rodm209

3 ай бұрын

PC2?

@HappyDiggers

3 ай бұрын

That's just a regular PC. That's not a technical leap at all.

Can you play now when internet goes down though on a console? I think I get a license message within minutes. And the game kicks me out.

@chris42069

3 ай бұрын

Yeah gamepass should give you 30 days of offline play

the TF discussion is fair since it was used for a long time by both gamers™ and HW manufactures as a metrics for performance. Even if it is a very flawed metric. The problem is taking the marketing BS scam in good faith. Most marketing nowadays are big fat lies, even if they are using _technically_ true facts.

Will we finally get a console that performs resolution and framerate wise like a good gaming PC is what I'd like to know?

A leap for Xbox will be the launcher console with some games I hope they can do that

Biggest leap in gaming was going 2D to 3D in the 90s.

Budgets are the issue now for PlayStation and Xbox consoles, not the hardware.

We are getting a handeld that plays series S spec.... This is why the S was made. When the Handheld releases it will already have a wealth of games available and the developers will be used to devving for the S spec console.

I'd assumed this was an AMD Zen 2 to an AMD Zen 5 CPU/GPU jump reference with Microsoft AI software rendering included for upscaling/frame generation type technologies. So we might be seeing a custom Zen 5 9500g CPU equivalent in the NeXt Box?

I enjoy my new xbox, but just because it's more powerful doesn't mean that I have the TV for it. Technology is expensive...

You'd think that at this point, Xbox has learned their lesson - that the vast majority of console gamers don't care about having "the most powerful" hardware - but much more about price, and about getting new games.

We are at a point of diminishing returns in the area of resolution, so it cant be that. Areas of improvement are with performance, features, physics, immersion, realism, portability, etc. I can see where AI/ML could help in each of these so it has to be with some advancements in AI implementation. Could be something that breaks down barriers between platforms that give people more freedom on where to play their games? Could be 100% marketing language too, so who knows at this point?🤷‍♂️

Apple demo'd a path traced game on M2 that you would never have enabled, and then on M3 with the additional hardware so it's definitely a possibility.

There is NO WAY that it can be by any metric bigger than the jump from GBA to PSP, that was a 2 gen jump in 1 back when the generational jumps were the biggest. Just compare GTA Advance to GTA Vice City Stories. Even if they trow Cloud into the mix it would still nowhere be as big of a jump, that's how big the jump from the GBA to the PSP was.

What does any of this have to do with the skills and abilities of the "Devs making the games? How long then do you have to wait for them to learn how to work this new technology? We are about to watch once again another Xbox put to pasture and not ever being able to see it power fully used.

The depressing truth is, this doesn't even need to be marketing speak. It just doesn't really matter anymore. Power has become somewhat of a joke. We reached a peak and it's just been diminishing returns since. Plus game developers just aren't trying to take advantage of the most powerful hardware available. They want to make their games more widely accessible, and the biggest money earners are on everything from mobile to switch to Xbox One to series X/PS5. People are probably more excited by the prospect of running console quality games on their iPhone 15 than any power gains the next Xbox can promise.

I'm so burned out on consoles. I want some cool new control method or exciting games with new levels of simulation. But we already know that it will be a small computer with the same controller layout as the ps1. It'll be the most powerful machine known to man, but devs will work hard to make games run at 720p 30fps within a year or so

The next "technological leap" will be doing away with all game purchases, and moving to a 100% digital rental model.

I think they could dedicate Azure resources to constantly learn and buff up the AI functions on the local Xbox. Power of the cloud without the need for a persistent and stable connection.

Yes the extra power is for all the ads, AI, bloat and data collection that Microsoft wants.

Maybe it’s going from flat to VR/XR, that combined with new tech could easily be a biggest leap. It would need to be old Xbox to new Xbox as the comparison since PSVR 2 is out there already.

Shenmue was my first graphical shocker.

Would mean "Nothing" if you got bad exclusives running at 30 fps. I say this as a Xbox user since 2009.

I'm still waiting for the "power of the cloud" for the Xbox One...

It means stripping everyone of ownership and control of their purchased content under the guise of being pro consumer and offering more ways to play.

@sodapopinksi667

3 ай бұрын

I can't imagine anyone but Nintendo doing this going forward, but you never know

@dusermiginte4647

3 ай бұрын

Meantime playstation removes stuff from your playstation.. You mean playstation..

@Pointman11111

3 ай бұрын

Lmao 🤣

@Pointman11111

3 ай бұрын

What you talking about

@Forte413

3 ай бұрын

​@@Pointman11111playstation fanboys never know what they're talking about

They're going to release a mid-gen upgrade and compare it to Series S. There, the biggest leap ever within a single generation 🤣

Starfield and hellblade 2 30 fps lmao

@jcdenton41100

3 ай бұрын

Only console warriors care about frame rate. Even pc won't be able to run hellblade 2 above 30fps

@PsYuSoFly

3 ай бұрын

​@@jcdenton41100speak for yourself, mine will.😊

Maybe Microsoft's next generation of consoles will cure cancer and T-virus

They need to stop worrying about hardware and put some games out...

I think they need to make a console that can actually do what they claim it can do

I'm of the belief that as long as there is an increase in graphics and new gameplay not previously possible, it doesn't really matter how it happened. If it's huge hardware increase, or fancy AI, it shouldn't matter if the end result is what they promised. Doesn't change that the previous gen couldn't do it.

1) Flops are useless in determining the overall capabilities of a chip. 2) Flops don't account for INT4/INT8/FP16/FP64/Geometry/Texturing and more. 3) Flops don't account for system memory or bandwidth.

Playstation is the console that delivers

unless they throw at us some fully immersive (sensory wise) vr thing, it will be hard to wow peoples

what headphones does Oliver have ??

@KopfdesRiesen

3 ай бұрын

Look like sony xm3 or 4s?

@sully8317

3 ай бұрын

@@KopfdesRiesen cheers bro il have a look

I just want to be able to play Little Big Planet 3.

You can throw the greatest tech you have at a console but you’re still gonna get the same old games ….its the games that haven’t progressed not the hardware

Yeah and Series X was supposed to be the 4K 60FPS standard 🤣 I’ll believe it when I see it

@shibaarmybrat5749

3 ай бұрын

Facts like Sony we believe in generations 😂😂😂😂

@dusermiginte4647

3 ай бұрын

Thats why Xbox have more games running at 60fps and 120 fps than ps?

@sully8317

3 ай бұрын

xbox have more games running native 4k where as sony is between 1080p to 1440p upscaled. As said xbox also have more games running 120fps and 60fps and most the features of the box isn't even being used.

@econoinner_force954

3 ай бұрын

​​​@@sully8317 name those games... 😅 backwards compatibility "boost" doesn't count. Third party games run same 4K on Series X and PS5, with better lights and better framerate on Ps5. All the first party from PS5 are MUCH more demanding (Physics, Animations, Effects, AI, Open World...) and give 1800p 60fps or solid 40fps with Raytracing on PS5, when we see 30fps Only on Series X first party on games Without complex Physics or anything... And the main console of Xbox is Series S... Do you want to talk about their games at 720p... Sure... Wait for the Tools 😂🎉 or Talents ?

@econoinner_force954

3 ай бұрын

​@@sully8317All the first party from PS5 are MUCH more demanding (Physics, Animations, Effects, AI, Open World...) and give 1800p 60fps or solid 40fps with Raytracing on PS5, when we see 30fps Only on Series X first party on games Without complex Physics or anything...

Biggest leap I've seen is the leap from the 6th to 7th gen (minus Wii)