✅ *🛒HERE: **bit.ly/3y4rfAq**, **bit.ly/3RTvlTb* 🚨 *CORRECTION: I mistakenly say in this video that the Marantz Cinema 60 receiver will ALSO get DIRAC. This is not accurate and I apologize for the mistake.* ✅ *CLICK ❤THANKS to highlight your question &/or support the channel!* ✅ *If it’s in the video, it’s in the desx ☝CLICK “SHOW MORE”* ✅ *RULES: Please be respectful. NO outside links, email addresses, etc.*

@zachariahadams

Жыл бұрын

A mistake 😱. Unacceptable

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

@@zachariahadams I hate when I make 'em, though there appeared to be conflicting info regarding the DIRAC roll-out. In the spirit of full transparency, sometimes getting "firm" or "precise" answers from the manufacturer is a bit like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall. All that said, the mistake was still made and it's on me to be better next time.

@zachariahadams

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinsonreviews is that a challenge? Jello it is.

@zachariahadams

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinsonreviews that's respectable anyhow.

@thiagodelgado3128

Жыл бұрын

So this Marantz can be sound good with klipsch? I like the high of klipsch afraid to lose that,

Good morning, everyone. Thank you again for all the ❤ you've shared with me regarding the loss of my grandmother. It's meant so much to me. 🙏

@carnell73

Жыл бұрын

❤

@Prerich45

Жыл бұрын

I've been out of pocket lately (VA stuff)...and I also send my condolences and prayers you you and your family 👪 🙏 ❤

@rehn1kri

Жыл бұрын

Kristi, thank you for sharing your story and for always having an additional fresh take on these reviews...we’ve found that my wife usually agrees with your preferences and we both enjoy your perspective.

@AldrianCG

Жыл бұрын

🙏🏼

@Nearest_Neighbor

Жыл бұрын

❤

I was watching a different content creator's review of an avr and compared to a pro like Andrew Robinson the video was a joke. Andrew gotta say thanks for not wasting our time filming unboxing, going through on screen settings, and other nonsense. You get straight to the point and giving good information, but more importantly you keep the video engaging and entertaining.

I have the Marantz SR6015 and it has served me very well for almost 2 years. I see no need to upgrade. Thank you Andrew for all you do.

*I would like to further weigh in on the plastic vs metal thing. I know Marantz is saying metal design and if true, it is the among the most plastic feeling metal ever. It may be aluminum with a coating that is giving it a plastic like feel, I don't know, but when you run. your finger across the front of the Cinema 50 it feels like plastic. When you run your finger across the 40n, it's cool like metal. Perhaps I played it too fast and loose with the phrase "all plastic" but if you have both units next to each other as I do, there is no doubt which one is metal-metal and which one may be the cheapest metal available while still allowing one to say it's metal. Apologies to anyone who may be upset by my remarks. I stand by what I said though, in that the Cinema 50 is well made, it just isn't AS well made as the 40n. Oh, and while the Cinema 50 and 40n have largely the same remote, the 40n's remote is metal whereas the 50's is plastic.*

Andrew / Christi: Bought the Marantz Cinema 50 based on your review to replace my Marantz 5012. As my media room, has an odd HVAC intrusion, I can’t get proper atmos so I have to rely on speaker virtualization in the Marantz app. I must say I am quite impressed with it as it - significantly - opens the soundscape. A major upgrade to the my 5012. Indeed, I would call it much more sophisticated and the overall sound, to my ears, is delightful! As you said: “It is almost perfect”, and I would have to agree. Nothing is perfect in this world. For me, it just has to do what the engineers say it will do . . . and if it does (often it doesn’t, as you know) I am thrilled! Wow it actually works?! Really! Well the Cinema 50 does it for me and I couldn’t be happier!!!

Top shelf presentation guys, most enjoyable and informative, just brings a smile, many thanks. Can't wait for the next Denon review and maybe at some stage the Denon AVR-A1H 8K Receiver + DIRAC. 🎶

This is my favorite channel yall a hero for this niche

As a person actively shopping for a receiver to power a Polk 5.1.2 system I put together (w a svs sb-1000) and relative noob in the mid level av range, I find it nearly overwhelming trying to figure out what I need to power what I have effectively without breaking the bank to pieces lol. Every time I’m decided there seems to be something new or a comparison I forgot to compare. This certainly seems like a winner and marantz quality has proven to be very much above average and this would allow me to upgrade in the future should I move to a different space. Dirac as an update also is annoying but idk what I’m missing, sooo I can get by with manual settings on B and Audessy on A like Andrew here. Not to mention the ability to bi-amp my R700 fronts as well and this seems like a front runner. Thank you guys again for taking the time to share this review with us as you grieve, Kisti and Andrew… not all hero’s wear capes ❤! Much love for you all as you cope with this loss as watching you all has certainly helped me earlier this year when my father passed.

Hey Andrew, great review! It would be cool to see you go back to this receiver now that Dirac has gone live. Also, it would really be cool if you could give an explanation of your manual setup approach with these receivers over Audyssey.

I can say personally that Marantz honors their warranty. I had a freak problem occur with my AV 7705. Couldnt be fixed. Marantz shipped me a new unit, and to my surprise, it was an AV 7706. Thanks to them for honoring their word.

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

THAT'S HUGE! Appreciate you sharing!

@maxpower78-15

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinsonreviews 🎉

Thanks Andrew! Great review. I found it to be very informative and well organized. I also love that you compared the Cinema 50 to the competition. I have a Marantz 9.2 SR7013 (got a great deal at the time) and love it! The only thing that seems to be missing from your Cinema 50 review (unless I missed it; sorry if that is the case) is that, not only is Dirac Live not included at launch as you and Kristi both highlighted, but it also requires the purchase of a license (US$259 - $349), at least as of 8/23/2023. You might want to add that fact in the notes at least as this could be a determining factor for some prospective buyers who are looking at other Dirac Live receivers. I only found out about the license fee after reading one of the comments below. Keep up the great work! Subscribed to your channel.

A little off topic, I purchased an NAD 700 on your recommendation, just like the Hersey IV’s I pulled the trigger on, again thanks to you. The NAD is for my wife in the living room. I came home tonight and discovered she had connected her iPod to the NAD via USB. Behold my amazement the NAD and BLUOS could control the iPod. It turned the iPod into a mini hard drive! Did you know it could do that! And it sounds like we are listening to the DAC in the 700, bypassing the iPod DAC. What a fantastic little perk to have!

I was waiting on this review to buy the Cinema 50 and finally have mine set up with KEF R3s. Yup - def takes a little bit of juice to wake things up. Music sounds flat at a volume of "58" but then at 62 it just opens up and sounds amazing.

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

You should get an SPL meter (or APP) to learn what "volume" level that really is in your room so you know for future reference when you experiment or change equipment. Unless you've "recalibrated" the receiver to accurately reflect the SPL in your room, 58 could be 70dB or it could be 40. Just a fun experiment you may want to try out. Thanks for watching!

@pcfreakx

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Yeah, great advice. I don't really know what type of dBs I'm pushing. I'm looking forward to the DIRAC update cause these KEF R3s sound a bit bright to me (I've pointed them almost straight into the room to be about 30 deg off axis to roll off the highs a bit). HeOS is janky as hell. And HDMI CEC is a major joke (full disclosure, I'm a coauthor of the Blu-ray disc spec so I have some background in AV technical specifications and, more importantly, validation/testing). I turned on my C50, it turns on my Nvidia Shield, turns on my LG OLED . .. then turns on my PS5 (Why?!). THEN, everything turns back off . . . one by one. THEN it all comes back on again! There is no testing with some of these groups. When I ran a studio tech team (at a company with a mouse as a mascot) my team was in charge of writing the 3D Blu-ray spec. We put in the spec that you MUST pass a verification disc my team wrote. I had them write a disc that tested EVERY SINGLE FEATURE in the spec and produced a pass or fail log. If you failed any of the 30 tests, you did not get that blu-ray logo. HDMI folks need to invest in the testing verification part cause it's a joke. Also, mentioned to Kristi before - love your video work. Love the beautiful pans across a speaker where the grill magically appears. Beautiful stuff.

Hi Andrew, love all your reviews, just wondering when are you going to review the cinema 40? Really thinking about buying one, but been waiting for your review to get your thoughts :) Thanks Chris

I was trying to replace my Yamaha RX-A2A with a Marantz 8015 after watching your review of it. Then Sony finally came back and after watching your 7000ES, I ordered the 5000ES. It arrived Saturday and installed it yesterday (3/12). Love 360 sound. Thank you. Perfect with RP-8000F!

@cafiveohsrockbandremix9254

Жыл бұрын

How do you like it compared to the A2A? How did the room correction do with your subwoofers?

I have been waiting for this review!!! I don’t have space for a dedicated home theater system, but I love watching you review the AV systems!

@KristiWright

Жыл бұрын

😊

Just ordered the Marantz Cinema 50 from Best Buy and saved $500 thru the Marantz promotion. Can't wait to get it and hook it up.

@vladyslav1987

7 ай бұрын

How?

@Nytewolf718

7 ай бұрын

Marantz was having there 70th Anniversary promotion where you can trade in your old avr and get 20% off the purchase of a Marantz receiver. The promotion ended Nov. 10th. @@vladyslav1987

Would love it if you guys also did the AV10 review when it comes out and how standalone sounds vs Cinema 50/40. Thanks.

2 channel is my priority but I did get a preamp with HT pass through to easily link a pro/receiver to my system. My Pioneer Elite from 2009 is getting a little long in the tooth and the Cinema 60 ticks all the right boxes. I'm currently running a 4.1 system and have a center channel speaker in storage so 5.1 is about as far as I go. Thanks for the review.

Literally just got back from the store with mine after grueling analysis paralysis, had to replace the T-778 after sending sending it to be serviced twice in two years… thanks for the review, much love to you, Kristi and the family ❤

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

Sucks to hear about your T778, but enjoy your new Cinema 50!

I've spent the last few days listening to my new CINEMA 50. Initial impressions are good. High quality construction. (Painted aluminum face plate, knobs, and doors, not brushed and anodized like most front face plates but not plastic either aside from the textured side accents.) The GUI is logically laid out and looks great though the Web UI is much faster for initial setup. The remote is high quality and well organized with good key feedback and clear markings. I was able to get an incredibly flat room response using the MultEQ iOS app. I followed the advice of many to spend the extra money for the app to access the curve editor. It was good advice. I find the sound without Audyssey room correction to be disappointing-somewhat dull with rolled off highs and a smallish soundstage. With Audyssey, the sound is transformed. It expands and snaps into focus. However, it is necessary to add back the bass punch that is lost during the room EQ. This is best accomplished using the app. Even after Audyssey, I find vocals to be a little recessed compared to what I'm used to. Fiona Apple usually sounds like she's standing in front of me during "The First Taste". Less so with the CINEMA 50. Overall though, my experience mirrors Andrew's. This is a great sounding receiver. For anyone who, like me, is new to Audyssey, Audioholics has a great, nearly two hour KZread webcast about best practices. The TLDR version: Start the adjustments from the app, not the receiver, or you won't be able to access them from the app later on. Take a minimum of five measurements, preferably eight. The first measurement is from ear height at the listening position. The seven subsequent measurements are also taken from ear height no more than 20" away. (The software will tell you 24".) Midrange compensation is an outdated setting that should be off. Dynamic Volume should be off. Dynamic LFC is just a high pass filter and should be off for best sound. Dynamic EQ should be off for the most neutral sound. (Your choice though.) It is usually best to limit Audyssey to the frequencies that are affected by the room. This is done in the app. The appropriate setting is almost always between 200-300 Hz. (As an aside, this is the reason you may not want to pay for a full range DIRAC Live upgrade.) Finally, after uploading the Audyssey correction from the app to the receiver using the Share button (iOS), set the MultEQ XT32 setting on the receiver to "Flat", not "Reference". My CINEMA 50 defaulted to Reference. On iOS, the MultEQ app saves the measurements and settings in a file that can be tweaked and re-uploaded. Better, you can copy the measurements file and create multiple Audyssey configurations that can be uploaded at any time to the receiver. The receiver has two Speaker presets allowing you to upload two different Audyssey curves to directly compare them. Theoretically, we will be able to load a DIRAC correction in one and an Audessey correction in the other at some point. Andrew may have mentioned this. It's been a few days since I listened to this review. It would be interesting to listen to the X3800H and hear what you're getting for the extra $800 beyond improved aesthetics. Side by side without room correction, I wonder if I wouldn't prefer the DENON's sound signature, though I find DENON receivers intolerably ugly so it was never an option for me.

@nafnaf0

Жыл бұрын

I think the Denon X3800H is the main competitor, I get that it is old school looking. On the X3800H they changed out the DAC, which apparently isn't as good as the original 3700H but still has nice amplification. The 3800H has a lot of nice features though, for music you could run an external DAC. One question, on the Marantz Cinema 50, can you run just a couple of the channels (like left front and right front) in the Pre-Out, while all other channels run through the receiver? This feature is available on the Denon X3800H but was not available on the 3700. This is important if you want to use a separate stereo amp for stereo.

@timothylinn

Жыл бұрын

@@nafnaf0 The CINEMA 50 divides the speakers into three groups: front, center, surround. For each of the groups you can choose either "speakers + preout" or just "preout". I believe (though I haven't tried it) that you could configure this in multiple ways and store each of the different configs in different presets.

@playcold32

Жыл бұрын

2 questions: 1. Can you turn ON Dynamic EQ while Audyssey is OFF? 2. What was your previous receiver and how does it compare to the marantz?

@timothylinn

Жыл бұрын

@@playcold32 #1. No. Dynamic EQ is a feature of Audyssey and requires it to be on. Is there a way to create an Audyssey preset w/ no adjustments as a work around? I'm not sure. As I've said earlier, I think the CINEMA 50 sounds awful w/o Audyssey so if Audyssey ever quits working the CINEMA 50 hits eBay the next day. #2. My previous receiver is an NAD T778, which also sounds fantastic-probably better than the CINEMA 50. The T778 sounded so good out of the box that I never even got around to trying Dirac. That said, I am reluctant to recommend the unit. I bought the T778 a year ago to replace a Yamaha RX-Z7 that worked flawlessly for 13 years. The T778 worked flawlessly for four months. Then it started malfunctioning and [long story short] NAD finally sent me a brand new replacement after making me wait without an AVR for *eight months*. It has been the worst customer service experience of my life, as much for the complete lack of concern and empathy on the part of NAD customer service as for the wait time. I have the new, factory sealed T778 sitting on the floor in my theater room. I can't decide whether to open it and do a comparison or just throw it on ebay and eliminate the chance of ever having to deal with NAD again. Based solely on sound quality, I strongly expect I would prefer the NAD and want to return the Marantz. That said, everything else about the Marantz is superior. The CINEMA 50 feels like a refined, fully finished component. The T778...well, let's just say that the remote has an "Audyssey" button on it but it doesn't have Audyssey. It has an "Enter" button that doesn't enter; it duplicates the functionality of the down arrow. And the right arrow button serves as both the right arrow and enter. Worse, the T778's expansion card is inexplicably glued into its slot, eliminating the one big advantage of its modular design. I could go on. Frankly, the only feature the T778 has that I miss on the CINEMA 50 is Center Spread.

@johnornelas9769

Жыл бұрын

Ya I bought the cinema 50..listened to the video..and took your advice..running 7.1.2... Thank you for taking the time to explain your setup. I am extremely happy with this reciever. I bought the app...cut off correction at 250...sounds great...I still might experiment some..buti can definitely be happy living with it now.

eager to see a review of the Arendal 1961 towers!

Great episode. it's cool to see the Model30 look taking over. Nice video.

I agree with you on the manual tuning, currently I have the 8012 and love it maybe its time to upgrade. I am an installer and in the pass used quite alot of denon products because of good value for money but started to get multiple failures due to a bad hdmi board so I stay away from them now like covid, lol. Doing a home theatre for a client now and I am using JBL synthesis.

I'm virtually already bent on getting the Cinema 40, which apparently is the Cinema 50 on roids, built in Japan instead of Vietnam, has video component input so can still hook up my beloved Wii, and slightly more juice and few other goodies. Can't wait to till their available with Durac!

Glad I managed to snag a Arcam AVR20 for 3100€, the Cinema lineup is just too expensive for what it offers. The X3800H seems like the sweet spot to me.

@nafnaf0

Жыл бұрын

The Denon X3700H is on sale for only $1200 right now. Worth considering the older model, same power output

@craigjohnchronicles2504

Жыл бұрын

@@nafnaf0 - That sale price is nearly the same original launch price. They jacked up the price from $1,200 to $1,600 last year.

❤ this advice since it’s exactly what I’m focused on now. I want an AVR that does great surround audio and has Dirac and costs between $1K & $2k. Our Denon AVR 1500 was put to shame when I plugged in a stereo tube amp for playing CDs and vinyl to the same speakers. The amps are on a switcher going to our commodity Klipsch R820Fs and the low powered Reisong tube amp turns those speakers into actual hifi boxes. I want a multichannel AVR receiver that can do that for my surround sound audio discs. ❤ your channel btw!

And I just ordered one today! Super excited for my first AVR

@andrewrobinsonreviews

8 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

Thanks for the great content. 👍🏻

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for tuning in!

Onkyo's RZ50 is tough to best when it comes to Value, and is much better suited for Beginners. (especially since they won't charge you for DIRAC Live) then again for people who can afford more, the Marantz may be the better brand in terms of critical Music listening. How big of a difference would you say is it in Music ? Really noticeable ? I like Warmer or Neutral to Warm tending sound.

Almost 300k 😊 Thanks for another great review!

Great review!! Love the breakdown and comparisons between other AVR’s.

100% dead on again! This looks to be a Denon X3800H with better styling and Marantz' HDAM "richness/warmth". From my experience with the x3800h, everything you said, except for the "Marantz richness", matches up exactly. Im looking forward to your X3800H review to see how you compare the two. Its a great time to be in the market for a AVR! (minus the post pandemic prices, of course). Thanks for another great review! P.S. - Have you tried Audyssey MultEQ-X? I think you would really like it.

I have a Cinema 50 and I really enjoy it, however it should really say DIRAC '*'. Although is supports DIRAC, it obviously does not come with it, and for the price that DIRAC wants for the software (not to mention a microphone), it is hard to justify its cost, especially when Audessey's software upgrade is only $20. After running Audessey Muti EQ, and adjusting a couple of curves, I found it to work better than I expected, and now have little to no desire to shell out the money for DIRAC.

Andrew for the older receivers like the 8015 and 6015, you can use MultEQ-X by Audyssey. Its different from the XT32, you should check it out. The upgrade is $200 per person per receiver

I love yall reviews, but I especially love a marantz review. Definitely one of my favorite hifi brands.

I am wondering if Andrew could elaborate more on his selection of the cinema 50 over the rz50. They seem pretty evenly matched and have a big price difference. What about the cinema 50 performance was better? I am looking for a new reciever for a dedicated theater room for video games and movies. Is the sound quality really worth the $900 premium? Seems like the answer is yes but please elaborate 😊. Great video I love the detail and amazing production quality of your videos. Top notch!

How big of a difference is this model when compared to cinema 60? Considering that I have a 7.1 setup(5.1.2) and the room size does not require additional 2 speakers? Specs wise this just have 10 watts more than the cinema 60 model.

As always, another great review! Looking forward for the review on the Arendal 1961 towers and center.

I’m really liking the new Marantz receivers I’m glad I held off and just upgraded my display first. In my case I’d need to go Cinema 40 to meet my needs and I’m probably going to get the soon to be released Denon X4800H instead as I can get that one for much cheaper than the Cinema 40. Marantz sure has nailed it again with a great line up though.

It would be great if you could create a video of your setup when going via Audyssey and configuring it manually so I can compare. Also when you setup your Xbox do you have to turn on the amplifier in order for the Xbox to work? I was attempting to set mine up so I could play games on the Xbox One without needing the amp on for it to display the game

Hello, would you please do a review for the Cinema 40? We know cinema 50 isn’t far off but we would like to see a comparison on the performance. I have not found a review for the Cinema 40 in depth

I've just bought the Cinema 50 and pairing it with a Monitor Audio 7.1.2 speaker system and a Samsung 85" Qled TV, as I'm a longterm MARANTZ user and like their products sound and quality. Regarding the omission of DIRAC I view this a a win-win. I get some new tech to play with at Xmas which will be lovely and then in 3 months I get the DIRAC firmware upgrade so it will be like having new kit again

@PetrKrenzelok

Жыл бұрын

I have Monitor Audio Silver 200, recently at 5.0. My Cinema 50 arrived yesterday and I need to test it against my cca 4 years old Denon x3500h. As for the Dirac - while it might arrive in 2-3 months, it is going to be a paid and quite expensive feature, no? It will surely be interesting to compare it to the Audyssey paid app.

@123_45EpicFortniteFloydnite

Жыл бұрын

Hi, How do the monitor audio sound with the cinema 50 ?

I was excited to see your review pop up in my feed, Andrew. I just ordered the CINEMA 50 yesterday. It's probably worth mentioning (if I didn't miss it) that unlike the Yamaha situation, the Marantz DIRAC update will be a paid upgrade. It is currently expected in ~March 2023 and best pricing estimate is ~$350 for full range DIRAC Live (timing and cost have not been fully nailed down). The standard partial-range DIRAC Live upgrade is expected to be about $90 cheaper. Owners will be able to start with standard DIRAC Live and upgrade to full range later if desired. DIRAC Live Bass Control is also on the docket but with no time frame. DIRAC spatial correction has not been ruled out but is not on the docket and there is no guarantee that these new receivers are capable of implementing it. In addition to the cost of DIRAC itself, users will need to purchase a microphone like the MiniDSP UMIK-1. The included Audessey mic will not work with DIRAC. Speaking of the T778 (which I own), that widely hated dongle is literally just a USB hub with Bluetooth and WiFi adapters plugged into it. Nothing more. Anyone who can run wired ethernet into the back of the T778 doesn't even need to plug the dongle in. It says "Bluesound" on it but it is not required for Bluesound functionality. One last thing as a long-time viewer, first-time commenter: I love your channel but it drives me crazy not to actually _see_ Kristi when she speaks. I assume she's camera shy but this approach is awkward. Cheers and thanks for the review!

Really looking forward to your Denon 3800h review. I want to see how it compares to the Marantz cinema 50.

@ChrisCiapala

Жыл бұрын

Yes, same here. On paper they look almost the same with the specs. The 3800 might even have a bit more power. Listening to the review and looking at specs its a bit hard to understand why C50 is a $1000 more.

Question Is it possible to connect the Denafrips Ares II DAC to the Marantz Cinema 50 without using a computer? Thanks in advance

Hi! Great review as always. I bought the 7015 two weeks ago. Hopefully i will not regret the decision to not wait for the cinema 50 or 40 :)

If I've learned anything from his page in the 48 hours I've been infatuated with, it is that I you've dreamed about it, I probably won't ever be able to afford it. However, I stick around or the Mrs. perspective pretty much everytime. Great page and you have 1 new fan. Keep up the great work.

@bobsimmons1470

5 ай бұрын

Alot of what you see featured can be found open box from reputable sources.

Hi Andrew and Kristi, in the review you said that the sound between the Cinema 50 and SR8015 is close enough, but you said that the Cinema 50 has worse dynamics compared to x3800h, and in the SR8015 you said that you never heard better dynamics before in a receiver, so one key difference between the sound of the Cinema 50 and SR8015 is that the SR8015 has much better Dynamics?

After watching your review the other day I ended up buying the Marantz Cinema 50

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

Nice!!

@aspjake123

Жыл бұрын

Well, feedback please! How do you like it?

Love Kristi's comments "I have questions" LMAO. Thank you both for a great review. I will buy the Cinema 50 as a much needed upgrade from my Integra 9.9.

Lol, Im still rocking a Marantz 6.1 channel SR5300. Quality of sound still holds up, nice and rich and clear over the Mission MX2 and Sony speakers. Not high end, certainly not these days but a nice subtle clear sound that can easily annoy the Neighbour's easily enough. One day I'll upgrade the AVR, just havent really felt the need yet, would like Atmos but dont really have the room for it

Hi Andrew- when you review the Denon X1700H can you please compare the 2-Channel audio sound quality to the Marantz Cinema 50? Thx!

If you guys could do us a favor, please like the video and share it with your friends if that feels right. The YT algo is being pretty fickle this morning. Thank you!

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they're shaking up the algorithm (again), so smashing the like button helps A LOT.

Nice update, especially for HDMI supporting complete 2.1 set and Dirac where's provided... Said that internally it's always same stuff, Dirac is not a game changer for me and I'd save money with old lineup, unless HDMI 2.1 is required for whole setup. I'd never give 8015 into for Cinema50...

Nice review, Andrew and Kristi. I know that the "incompleteness" of releases these day is maddening, but I think they wanted to get this one out for the 2022 holiday buying season. I suspect that the lack of Dirac probably has something to do with a pending software release. Looking at the Dirac web site, there hasn't been a new download posted there since Spring of 2022. That suggests to me that a significant revision is in beta test right now. Dirac support will probably come in the first quarter of next year once that update is generally available.

I don’t love HEOS by any stretch, but I use it because I don’t know of any easier and better way to stream lossless audio from Amazon Music. If there is a way, please somebody tell me. I know there are options that add equipment and in turn cost money. As mediocre as HEOS is, it’s free with the receiver.

How does this compare with the NADT778 for music? Also has Dirac actually now been made available for this? Thanks!

Hey Andrew, good review on the Cinema 50. Now I have yet another new AVR to consider…whew! Actually, I do believe it’s great to have choices, of course. After your review and fondness for the RZ50, I have been stoking my AVR piggy bank for that fine Onkyo. I have long been a fan of Pioneer Elite, my current VSX-90 has served me well for 6 years, with the eARC beginning to get flakey. That port just seems to always be the first to go on AVRs. I feel that the RZ50 will be the perfect replacement for my Pioneer Elite, as I auditioned one last week. Strong even-keeled amplification, and ALL of the features I want, including DIRAC. I know that both Pioneer and Onkyo belong to PAG. I appreciated your perspectives in your discussion about Onkyo’s filing for restructuring. It’s always best to go into a purchase with your eyes wide open! One note on the Yamaha AVANTAGE: It’s such a shame that they skimped on the DIRAC being part of the package. Normally I wouldn’t probably worry about it missing. I just feel like it was a somewhat of a patronizing move on Yamaha’s part, like “oh they won’t notice it missing”. So, after all of that winding road, I don’t feel like the Cinema 50 is worth the extra $1k, and the RZ50 having noticeably more power (on paper anyway) is enticement enough for me. Thank you for the continued quality reviews Andrew and Kristi!

Sir I just watch this video Andrew you are effing crazy I absolutely love the face that you made for the advantage comment!, it’s one of the reasons why I like watching your channel being a lot more real and having fun with it……

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Cinema 40 is out! Curious how much better it is.

I have a Marantz SR6012 and have been wanting a pre-pro upgrade to the 7706 before replacing. AV10 is out of current budget and overkill for me. This looks interesting to replace mine and MiniDSP for my 3 subs. I am waiting however until reviews of Dirac and spatial bass with using multiple subs. As is I will stick with what I have Yes Marantz tripped up. If Dirac was available I would have upgraded. Now competitors like Emotiva have time to get their bleep together and me save more for other competitors. I think anyone in this price market is going to wait whether new purchase or upgrade existing. Why spend more on a competitor if Dirac makes a huge improvement? Why spend less on potential inferior product when Dirac is around the corner?

I just received my CINEMA 50 yesterday still trying to set it up and so far, I love it. I am replacing my old Sony STR-DA7100ES.

@sindhukannan154

Жыл бұрын

How do u like it?

@chrishessey9733

Жыл бұрын

@@sindhukannan154 Hi I haven't really had time to set everything up yet. but so far it seems to be great. Stepping up from that Sony is massive. I'm getting the Samsung 65" S95B OLED 4K Smart TV coming in a few days. Can't wait to get everything up ang going. And I got the Polk R700 R400 the R200 and 4 of the R900. I'll get a high power 3 CH amp for the front 3.

I have the t778, BluOs doesn’t need the dongle if you use the Ethernet port. I believe same for Dirac. You do need the dongle if you want Bluetooth but I don’t think that’s important unless you want to us3 it with your phone. And I have up used a Wi-Fi adapter with no direct wiring to my router.

What abou the new Denon 4800H compared to Marantz cinema 50 ?

I wish some brand would just make a good 5.1 AVR with pre outs. Thats all most people need

@battermann2

Жыл бұрын

anthem mrx 540!

@ekimandersom4478

Жыл бұрын

@@battermann2 an affordable one !

great review as always thank you.

Looking forward to your review Cinema 70s!!!

Please, can you review and compare the Arcam AVR31

How does it compare to arcam avr20 or 21?

Just got the Cinema 60 in. Love the sound but after hearing the 60 won't get Dirac, it's going back. And since the Onkyo RZ50 is not available in Europe, Denon all of a sudden becomes a really good option.

I’m waiting for the AV10 Processor. For me it’s between the Anthem AVM90 vs Marantz AV10. If you can, please get a pre-pro for review. I find that balanced connections take music and movies to the next level.

I want you to know I come to your channel for your cinematography. It can't be easy setting up and doing all of those B-roll shots to such a meticulous standard. But it sets your channel apart, I appreciate it and it's what I come for. If ever you're frustrated, or run into problems with the B-roll and think "does anyone even care?". Just wanted to let you know I care, I see, and I am grateful for it. That's all. P.S. Also for Kristi. She's great. You should marry her twice just to be sure she stays.

@KristiWright

Жыл бұрын

😂 love this comment so much

@E4xtream

Жыл бұрын

@@KristiWright love what you do.

@ACDGibson

Жыл бұрын

I was always impressed with how clean Andrew's videos are. Both in in B-roll, A-roll and.... Kristi-roll? 😁 Professionals top to bottom 👍

The thing that burns me about DIRAC isn't that it's a later update, but that you have to pay for a license. They're selling this product with the DIRAC logo. I shouldn't have to buy separately what they're telling me I'm going to get. If it was a free update later, that's fine. Not great, but ok. But to have to buy a license as well, there is nothing about DIRAC that comes with the Cinema50 other than the capability to add it later. Other than that, it looks like the Cinema50 is a perfect fit for what I'm looking for, but that whole DIRAC issue is really bothering me. I can't decide if that's a deal breaker or not.

@parupudiphanindra3126

4 ай бұрын

Dirac came to picture now. But prior to dirac also maranz did well. And audissy is also there. Heard it is updated I don't know. Got the Marantz50

Well done as always!!!!!!!!!

At least you're being honest about 'it' - as in the dirac live implementation.

Marantz is waiting for the brand new Spatial Dirac software to be completed by Dirac. If you only wanted the current NON Spatial version, the yes, It would have been included in the release of the Marantz 50.

@Wozzaatwozza

Жыл бұрын

Someone else who gets it!

@JohnSmith-qi6co

Жыл бұрын

@@Wozzaatwozza Makes sense. Let's hope that's it and that there isn't some technical hurdle in the way as well.

@JohnSmith-qi6co

Жыл бұрын

oops I should have added: Yes and what if the new Dirac software is delayed? Don't think software projects aren't delayed!

@minos64

Жыл бұрын

This would make sense. But how do you know it, is this just your guess?

@Wozzaatwozza

Жыл бұрын

@@minos64 During the press release of Dirac they mentioned the new version will be available on the new Marantz processors. Then during the Marantz release at Cedia that the units Dirac upgrade comes with the new Dirac version to be released. What’s very interesting is how MIMO Dirac approaches room correction very differently. Revolutionary!!!! All other room corrections will now be like the difference between SVHS and HDMI

This vs 8015 vs cinema 40 in terms of 2 channel audio quality

yeah! perfect timming !

I just bought the Denon X3800H, which is also a 9-channel AVR with 4 sub-outputs. The difference is: the Denon only cost $1700, while this Marantz 50 Cinema retails for $2500.

@walterstrikes

Жыл бұрын

same

What about the cinema 40??

I have an SR7013 and an SR6014 (two different rooms). I could care less about DIRAC. I don't need 8k. I am not in the market for an AVR. So it does not bother me DIRAC was not functioning with the release. Thanks again!

Love your review very nicely done. I still have a problem with the tiny display and color of the unit it should be more pleasant to show in an audio rack.

Nice but it should have a screen at least as large as a S22 or iPhone 14 max. You can get an android table with a 10" screen for $120 - that includes the battery and computer - an AV receiver in 2022 should have a better screen than your fridge.

@gregmax

Жыл бұрын

Other than some potential interference issues with the onboard electronics, I don't see why these products continue to look like something from the 90's.

Marants Cinema 40 is on it´s way to my location. Can´t wait to have it.

As a sales person and an installer, yes. Marantz, what are you even thinking. As a consumer, (and former Yamaha instruments intern) it triggers me exactly to the same place and I have no doubt we're about to see the same mistakes.

These damn reviews somehow put this invisible pressure on my arm to pull my wallet from thy pocket.... hahahaha.... Cheers.. Our drink this evening was the original James Bond Martini, known as the Vesper... :)

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate your support ABX. I enjoyed a refreshing mix of Limoncello, Elderflower liquor and Prosecco at lunch today.

@abxaudiophiles

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Well played Sir. Well played. :) Hope you both have a fantastic evening.

Hey Andrew. Which one, Arendal 1723 or Polk R700?

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

Nope, not giving that info away until the Arendal review coming up.

QOTD: Normally I would say yes they absolutely did but the fact that they do have the decently comparable Audessy available at launch I think makes it ok, at least in my book

My initial first choice was the Lexicon RV 9 but could not find one so I settled for the Cinema 50

For over 10 years I’ve been wanting to love a Marantz AVR, but I really REALLY hate that little port-hole display!! Nobody could possibly read that from their listening/viewing position.

@lilcha85

Жыл бұрын

On screen display…

Besides Dirac and the 4 sub outs, etc., does the Cinema 50 actually sound better than the SR6015?

It is interesting that your experience with the Yamaha RX-A8A has been so different from mine. The build quality on mine was impeccable. I was an early adopter of the unit so I received mine prior to yours. Perhaps quality control was better on these earlier units prior to the Covid buying craze and chip shortages. As far as the promised 8K support with VRR and ALLM firmware 1.73 will give the unit those features. I have not seen DIRAC support and you are right YPAO is not all that. I wound up re-calibrating everything by ear after running it. In my room, it did a terrible job at adjusting the bass levels. As far as recommending the unit after living with mine for nearly a year. If you want an AVR that is one of the best for movie watching Yamaha makes a good choice. For music I like the Anthem and Marantz AVRs better. If you looking for 8K gaming with VRR support. I think it wise to shop around and compare your options. The thing I hate most about owning Yamaha is you are an UN-paid beta tester for an receiver that now cost $3549.95. I find that their patches and updates have been coming out way too slow for an expensive flagship product. Which IMHO puts a lot of egg on the face of Yamaha. That being said, you are lucky indeed if you are able to get a hold of one. So they must be doing enough things right. Even with all of Yamaha's failings at providing timely customer support, whenever a dealer manages to get a shipment in, they usually are immediately sold out.

Great review, Andrew! I instantly clicked thumbnail, even though this model is out of my price range, and beyond my needs for my small condo. Hoping that you guys can review the Cinema 70s in the near future, since that's definitely more suitable for my needs and space (I nearly bought the NR1711, but I'm waiting for the 70s now cause I love the design).

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

We may give the 70 a look soon. Thanks for tuning in!

Speaking as someone in the firmware development industry. We don't know why the execs make these decisions either

@KristiWright

Жыл бұрын

😅

Andrew is obviously much more qualified than I am, but unless you just have to have a Marantz, I wouldn’t get a Cinema 60. It won’t have Dirac support, it’s only 7 channels with no additional pre-outs, and the two sub channels are not independent. For the same money you can get the new Denon 3800h or the Onkyo RZ50 which is back in stock, and spec wise they are closer to the cinema 50. If you can afford to splurge for the 50, god bless and enjoy. Otherwise I’d get one of those 2. Actually I would love to see a comparison between the rz50 and the 3800h. They one up each other in different areas and I would have a hard time deciding between them. Also, I might be wrong, but from what I’m gathering, Dirac is going to be an "optional upgrade", meaning it’s going to cost money. That’s messed up if that’s the case. You can get $1000 receivers now that come with Dirac so I really hope this isn’t the case.

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

DIRAC is an optional upgrade on most devices. This is fairly standard.

@spizzlo

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks for the reply Andrew! So what does dirac support even mean then? Or do you need to use something like a minidsp to use dirac on most devices? And it's built in on these? It has to be something lol.

@timothylinn

Жыл бұрын

@@spizzlo I've owned multiple devices with DIRAC. There are different versions. The basic DIRAC Live version covers the frequency range that is affected by room interactions. Check for yourself on anything you're considering, but my impression is that this is usually included for free. This is definitely true of the NAD T778. The upgrade from the free version with limited frequency range to the version with full range is $99. DIRAC Bass Control would be even more though it is irrelevant for the T778. My understanding (from other commenters) is that Onkyo's RZ50 gives you the full range DIRAC Live free out of the box. I haven't confirmed this.

@andrewrobinsonreviews

Жыл бұрын

The RZ50 comes standard with DIRAC LIVE but not the full version of DIRAC. As with most products, the full version of DIRAC is an upgrade ($).

@timothylinn

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinsonreviews Thanks for the clarification.

Dang they finally gave the design a refresh to something modern

Stellar review as always. Looks like a definitive upgrade to the SR6014/6015. Btw, any chance for a Cinema 70s review as well? It's basically a NR1711 successor but now with proper 5-channel pre-outs. Could be a banger for smaller size venues.

@techsamurai11

Жыл бұрын

How so?

Should we technically call this a "Receiver" given that it does not have a tuner built in?