I am glad you are safe Gene. Ian was devastating. I hope Don is okay too. The new look looks great. I got tired of the Deno-Mar look of years past. I am not shocked at all on the prices. Prices were up last year easily as much as 35% in dealer costs! So of course we the consumer are going to get pinched. I am so glad that you and Don are doing the great work there. You both are way above my pay grade on what you are doing. The Emotiva and Parasound amplifier and the Denon AVR I have is doing great. I may run my Anthem pre pro again. Got to see how that goes. Curious on the difference.

Another fine review. Very thorough and relevant. I have been curious about the newest Marantz and Denon products coming out lately. They do look great and possess desirable features, components, and specs. Thank you for your review.

@demonreturns4336

Жыл бұрын

How’s this a review? It’s more like a preview more than anything

This makes me so glad I waited, it's been a while since a whole new line-up with a really big set of changes like this has happened lot of features for the price in the 50. Are the amps you chose to disconnect in favour of separate power amp reassignable as well? Think dennons new range was. Need a video that shows which models these are targeting in dennons new line up. That 3800h or maybe 4800h whatever was recently shown on here sounded amazing for the price but I love marantz design look over dennon

Thanks for this Gene, I’m very much interested in Marantz vs Denon receivers for 2023 actually-the Japanese models. Ultimately for me it’s a battle between Marantz 40 vs Denon 4800 -the £2,400 band in the Uk, so I’m looking forward you your reviews and waiting for the February 23 releases. Ps - fingers crossed for the storm victims

Great video Gene , I know Denon and Marantz receivers are both great but what would be better for a home theater receiver in a room that's like 11ft / 14ft thank you

Great information Gene looking forward with your review on the Cenema 60

Please find out if we get some advantages of audyssey when also using dirac with these new units. I think it was mentioned before that there was a possibility and it would make these new Marantz and Denons very interesting.

I'll just keep my Marantz SR8015! No thanks marantz, these prices are getting crazy. 🤪 I gave 3199 for mine and last time I looked I seen it going for 3899. That's 700 more plus this year's price hikes. There has to be a point where you say no, and I think I'm there. 😕

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

No reason to change the SR8015. It's still 🤴

@ddcrocky3831

4 ай бұрын

When running Audyssey Deos that change the warmth sound signature of Marantz thank you

Hey, do you know what DACs they're using in these receivers?

Question regarding marantz cinema 70s What are Pre out selection option available in setup software 1) is it just FL or All channels Or 2) can we select specific combo Eg fl, rear lr and leave rest channels for the receiver

I'd love to see a top receiver comparison for around 1k or under. We are forced to replace our old high quality equipment for 4k and 8k compatible receivers.

Confirmed: All Denon/Marantz AVRs/AVPs with 4 independent subwoofer outputs (starting from X3800H and Cinema 50) will later support Dirac live bass control and the upcoming spatial roon correction.

Hi Gene, thanks for the info! Audio Advice says that SA2 HDAM version is also in the Cinema 50 - is that true? Their description states, "Amplifier: Discrete Power Amp Unit and HDAM-SA2". Also, you say in your article, "Both units use the HDAM SA-2 tech which you find in their more expensive units." Which two units were you referring to? Thx

@therealmitch-a-palooza7262

Жыл бұрын

Wondering the same thing.

Gene. Any chance you can ask about when Marantz will be shipping the A10 and AMP 10?

Good review, very informative 👍

Hope u see my question here Can u control the bass and treble manually on the marants cinema 50 or how dous it work with this AVR and if I use a sep amplifier can u adjust the bass and treble with as well

I just bought a new Anthem 8k receiver. It doesn’t have individual bass management though. Should I return it for Marantz, or can I use the SVS app to compensate?

Gene sir , can you do a comparison between Yamaha Advantage rx- A8A or even rx- A6A ,with the Marantz cinema 50 model please because i have to update my surround sound system.

Does the 3 HDMI outputs acts as a matrix, splitter and switcher? or one can only view one output at a time?

Any info on the Dacs for the 40 and or the 50 series? Thank you, JCT

Great overview, thanks! Quick question: I drive a Rotel RB1590 (needs 2.2 volt to reach max power) with a Marantz SR5015 as a preamp. No subwoofers. Am I OK with the 5015 as a preamp to deliver clean 2.2 Volts?

Is the phono input in the cinema 40 the same as what’s in the Model 40n integrated amp?

Thanks for update! Hope everyone is safe and doing well with clean up....Getting back to The Marantz products.... Class D in that big power amp thats great! Way to go Marantz!... my question is what DAC are they using in the processor and receivers? I have a SR 6011 with a 24 bit DAC and not sure what is in the new products as I dont see that listed .Thanks and stay safe.

@Espiritiv

Жыл бұрын

I too want to know the different DACs between models of these and Denon. Just knowing its made in Japan doesnt cut it. Now it seems most of the info that was given to audioholics on the difference between the 40 and 50 were based on the amplifiers. This tells us nothing of those wanting to use them for preamps

@jimhamlin6551

Жыл бұрын

@@Espiritiv I did see somewhere that they went to a 32 bit DAC from Texas Instruments in the 2022 models and was trying to confirm this for the new Cinema Series ,but I guess we won’t get an answer from Audioholics unless you pay and become a patron

@Espiritiv

Жыл бұрын

@@jimhamlin6551 ahh thats how it works. Pay to play around here.

I don't regret getting a Denon AVR-A110... but I kinda do because now I want one of these babies 🤩

Quick question: Does anybody know the release date for these? Best Buy has the Cinema 50 up on their website for a store pickup on Oct 6th Is this correct?

Will there be a cinema 30 to match the sr 8015 in terms of channel processing?

@audioholics... Hey Gene... Question regarding those with the SR8012, SR8015, or even 8805. Considering the hefty price tag to jump up to the newer "latest and greatest," outside the DIRAC and perhaps additional sub outs, do you see a lack of benefit with getting these newer units?

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

If you already have last year flagships from the brand, I wouldn't jump ship just to get DIRAC. SR8015/8805 are still great units!

@caczech

Жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics... Appreciate it, my friend. Those aforementioned units also pack so many other features (legacy inputs) that I fear folks will begin to miss before long. Yes, my Wii still gets good use time to time! 😄

Gene...do you know ( or can you find out ) if the 7015/8015 can Dirac be added? I know there last years models.but just wondered if I could upgrade rather than buy a more expensive receiver thanks

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

I don't think the older models are upgradeable to DIRAC but I will definitely ask.

Understood. Great Review. 👍

Any word on what Dirac versions will they have and on which models? Apparently, DLBC will be on all Denons with 4 sub inputs (3800h and up) while its rumored the A1H will have the upcoming SRC as an option.. can you get info on that and these models?

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

I am hearing full DIRAC support including coming Spatial Dirac. We will know more in November.

@mroldgreg

Жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics Awesome! I REALLY hope SRC is on something besides the A1H behemoth and 7k processor. Price aside, I really dont want a 70lb AVR. Very excited for your guys review of SRC in November.. if im remembering your old fourm post correctly.

Can't wait for your official reviews of these Cinema Receivers . One think I want to know has Marantz CINEMA series has Marantz solved their heat issues

Hi Gene, would you be able to recommend a five channel amplifier to pair with an SR 8015, driving a 9 channel Sonus Faber speaker layout. Olympica 1 bookshelves for main left/right, center is Olympica. Thank you and glad you survived the storm ok.

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

Monolith is the best bang for the buck with a rugged time tested design. Thanks

I have a Marantz 6015 and absolutely love it. The sound is crystal clear with great separation. That said, Marantz and others have went up too much on prices.. I understand the covid supply chains, but we're talking nearly a grand from when the 6015 initially came out. I purchased it at $2099, now it's $2299, up from $1699 upon release. The Cinema 50 is $2,500!

@chloeleedow7250

Жыл бұрын

That's outrageous especially the old amp price bump they are on drugs. We pay huge taxes on these good in Australia too so we are stung even more and importing it from US doesn't usually save anything and they are normally 120v power stages too not multi region as its 240 here and then you have to spend more on a super high quality step down transformer, bah humbug 😂

@L0rdSk1ll

Жыл бұрын

I got the sr7015 for 2000€ in Belgium, and the price for the cinema 40 is 2799€ (in the same shop). That's an increase of 40% in one generation!

@MrPreet23

Жыл бұрын

All corporates are getting greedy… Still using shortage as excuse for price gouging… I will never pay my hard earned to these greedy corporate even though I can afford…. There are many brand alternatives in the market

@chloeleedow7250

Жыл бұрын

@@MrPreet23 yeah think I'll wait for a second hand one to come up or maybe a big sale like black Friday for it maybe the price being brought down to planet earth 😂 or just stick with my 2019 onkyo that has most things I need, I just wanted to treat myself to something a little more high end after I got a payout but even with my payout I can't justify that greed.

@MrPreet23

Жыл бұрын

@@chloeleedow7250 right , get open box item with huge discount . No need to spend 7k on a pre amp

How many zones will the Cinema 40, support?

Thanks for the clarification on the Japan-built models...

If I already have a separate amp, is the 50 going to be overkill over the 70? I'm currently on a 5.2 speaker setup with an Av7702 and matching MM8077 but I want to upgrade for the latest video codecs and processing that my 7702 doesn't have. I do want the dirac feature but not sure that alone is worth the $$.

@nachowifi2181

Жыл бұрын

Does the 7702 support Atmos?

@gorokhovsky1

Жыл бұрын

@@nachowifi2181 yes, it supports all current audio codecs, including atmos. More of a video limitation and also, it lacks eARC, only has ARC. But I'm only running a 5.2 setup anyway so not sure if it's that big a deal. I might add a couple of atmos speakers at some point and then (lack of) 3D audio would become more of an issue.

I bought the Kinki studio ex-m1 integrated amplifier last year, this year they decided to increase the price because of overhead costs and price increases of many of the parts, the unit went from $2898 to $2,998, an increase of only $100, this amplifier is built like a tank with premium parts and impeccable sound, Sound united on the other hand, with the power to buy bulk, has been raising prices indiscriminately for the last 2 years, and the new offerings from Marantz and are just confirming this further.

Are you doing any serious bench testing on the cinema 40 soon?

I am extremely happy with my current separates set up which are marantz av 8805 + 2 mm8077 power amps , i’m not going to move to 8K anytime soon

Hi Gene, about Denon & Marantz, I am set with XLRs were with these units are only using RCA connection. I only want to get an AV with XLR connection. The real question is? I'm I being silly for only wanting to stick with XLR? You may enjoy this? I have a Denon AVR 4800, to this day, when it first came out. I love it. I have gone to separates and they are, Parasound a21+, a52+ & P6, I also had the Anthem AV 70, but I returned the Anthem. Must people hate to give recommendation, but what would you suggest for an AV? I will be waiting for your reply, Thank You Gene.

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

These are AV receivers and don't have XLRs for the preouts other than the sub channel. The Anthem AVM70 is a great pre/pro, not sure why you returned it. Maybe try the coming Marantz AV10 but it's $7k! Otherwise try the AV8805a.

@noemontalvo2305

Жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics Thank You Gene, for your reply so soon. I would of love to have kept the Anthem, but I wasn't getting update apply or updating to the unit, it would also shut off when I turn it on, (not all the time) remote did not respond all the time, and everytime blu ray played the Anthem would go to mono setting. Even people that has experience setting these units up would also have issues with the anthem. So even if I didn't know what I was doing it was all my fault. (I just think that I got a used unit because it didn't look like all the other video of opening box. It also the box was dropped and wet. FedEx refused to paid for damages, good thing the dealer refunded my full payment) But I'm not sure about your reply. Should I be hooked up with XLR connection over RCA. I do understand that you said not on AVRs. Ps, sorry for the long story. Thank You once again Gene.

I really like the aesthetic. I will wait until some testing has been done on them .. and see how the tech actually performs. How do you think these will fair compared to Denon versions? Thanks, Gene!

I need some genuine help. 1) If a receiver has say 110wx2 and you have a couple amps and use preout + amp for all speakers but one speaker (center). Can I hook just the center into the avr and get 220 w? Receiver is Marantz Cinema 50. Center is Polk Legend L400. 2) If you have speaker that can be biamped and the speaker is rated 300w max. Can you bi amp it at 250w a per set of terminals since the power is separated into high and low speakers? or is the speaker (for 300w max) 150w for high and 150 low or is it 300w max for the high and 300w max for the low. Any help would be much appreciated and I have been unable to get advice.

Speculation, I know, but when do you expect a C30 with 11 power amps, Gene?

I've just gotten the cinema 60 this week, upgrade from an old Marantz NR1504. Was trying to get the previous gen on the end of line sales but just missed out and needed a replacement. Sounds good so far, big improvement in music, remote is nicer (it's still a plastic remote but has a backlight, hope the buttons don't stop working like the previous marantz remote), on screen setup is a big improvement too. Have had one annoying bug already, when using Spotify connect with the screen turned off audio will drop out every minute or so for a second - doesn't happen if you leave screen on. It was expensive, considering I was trying to get the SR7015 for 50% less in the sales but I was already committed to the upgrade as I needed the 4k avr to fix the delay in the Xbox Dolby digital tv pass through.

@libertalian_8415

Жыл бұрын

Are you satisfied with sound in movies? Is bass good? Im planning to buy one for 5.1.2 setup. Thank you

@ByronWWW

Жыл бұрын

@@libertalian_8415 I have bowers asw10 in a pretty small room and the bass is good (tight and the sub can output more than the room can handle). Overall pretty happy with the receiver, the cinema 50 is meant to be the best bang for buck and I think I'd rather have gotten that for just for the extra atmos speaker capabilities it would have provided.

@libertalian_8415

Жыл бұрын

@@ByronWWW I have Wharfedale DX 2 5.1 with 2 atmos speakers, so think this will be sufficient...I,m thinking between it and Denon x3800h as an option for 100 euros € more (think it is around 100 dollars more also) but saw that Denon has HDMI issues and probably older DACs (not sure) but some say that is better for movies and bass is better. Agree with you for Cinema 50...all that you said, but here in Europe it is nearly 500 € more than Denon (same channels) and 600 more than Cinema 60.

@libertalian_8415

Жыл бұрын

@@ByronWWW i tried here also to get one of those older ones- SR6015 Marantz but also sold out...now you can find only newer models. I'll go with Marantz 60 also- it will me sufficient at this point. Cheers friend.

Audioholics, I have a fun idea for a video. Can you run the numbers (and some critical listening) to some Cat-5e cable, and to some cheap car jumper cables (big gauge right?) as speaker cables? I think it would really reinforce what is important in an audio cable. I've seen your videos in the past and I know you have the right equipment to test these sorts of things, and it wouldn't take too long.

Retrotink products are highly acclaimed for their analog video to digital conversion (in regards to your mention of needing a Cinema 40 for legacy inputs)

But no XLR preout on any of them?

Nice article, and video, on the Cinema series, thank you. As I watch this video (8 months after it was made), I'm wanting to upgrade the Denon 4700H in my HT and take advantage of the 4 independent subwoofer outputs on the Denon and Marantz AVRs. I currently take advantage of the 11 channel processing on the 4700H and am connected with the pre-outs for all channels. Have been looking at the Cinema 40 and 4800H ... honestly, I don't see the $1,000 price difference. Both designed and built in Japan and the specs ... close to identical. Where they differ is slightly in the THX measurements, but that is a moot point for those of use using external amplification that is better than the built in AVR amplification. Anyway, thanks again for the information, as always ... I believe the 4800H is basically a Cinema 40 in Denon "clothing" ... or vise versa. Enjoy your gear!!!

Now in my area sr8015's price Should I buy 8015? Anyway my system is only 5.1, but I would like to get better music sound. Please give me some advice.

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

8015 is still the most powerful Marantz AVR currently in production. You could go with a lower end unit and buy a 2CH amp since you're only doing 5.1CH.

@_RunRunRun_

Жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics thanks. As your advice, how about sr 6015 + Hifi Rose rs520? anyway It need pay more to get the streamer.

Great review Gene. But honestly the prices of the Marantz line is way out of my ball park right now. My thoughts and prayers go out to all in Florida for what you guys just went through.

I’ve heard the 40 has better bass sound than the 50. I’ve read a couple reviews saying this. I did have the 50 and the bass did seem tuned down and hollow. Can you attest to this?!

The cinema 40 is reported to have 7.1 inputs but the back panel on the video I’ve just seen didn’t have them? Admittedly I couldn’t see the whole left hand side but I think I’m correct and the Marantz specifications are wrong and I’m disappointed with that loss.

I can't figure out how Marantz didn't separate the sub outs on the Cinema 60, would have been the perfect receiver for 90 percent of the planet.

Is the new Denon x4800H built in japan?

@hoguga

Жыл бұрын

Yes

Gene do you have a protege to train up in the ways of the force for Audio skills? You could either have informal students, or maybe create a training course. I'm sure people would benefit from from being "certified"

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

Haha I have trained a few but then they went on and got full time jobs in the industry which I'm very happy for them. I've always wanted to organize college level home theater relates course work but never enough time to make it happen.

@myhiddennewsreport7238

Жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics That time thing always gets us! The site has plenty to learn from, but glad you've thought of it! Keep up the great work.

Looks like it’s time for another Phil Jones interview please!

i'd be interested in knowing how much the price increases have impacted audiophiles purchasing habits

Noticed you said EI core Transformer. Packaging has caught up with these guys with all the stuff plain is not enough room for a Toroidal anymore. Plus costs. Way way more money for those vs. an EI core transformer. Kind of cheaping out by necessity I suppose. But hopefully you are running external amps before long anyway.

New proccessors?

Gene, how does this compare against the Onkyo TX-RZ50

@ivan4626000

Жыл бұрын

I want to know too :)

@joemarz2264

Жыл бұрын

RZ50 has just 2 subwoofer outputs (in parallel) vs. 4 outputs in the Cinema 40 (also in parallel? 😄)

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

@@joemarz2264 the Cinema 40 and 50 have 4 independent sub outs, not parallel.

Just pre-ordered the Cinema 50 to replace my Denon X3700. Hopefully it’s a nice worthwhile upgrade

@PetrKrenzelok

Жыл бұрын

So, have you got your Cinema 50 already? If so, how does it sound? 🙂 I have x3500h and thinking about the upgrade to x3800h, or switching to Cinema 50.

@seriouslyaye

Жыл бұрын

@@PetrKrenzelok Honestly it sounds very similar to the 3700. Even functions exactly the same. Difficult for me to tell the difference. Maybe when it gets the Dirac Live update in March that will change

@PetrKrenzelok

Жыл бұрын

@@seriouslyaye Ah, sorry to hear that, because I was really considering the Cinema 50 and expected it to sound better, especially for a stereo music. New model - x3800, got more expensive than x3700h and provides on-par functionality (4 subs, Dirac upgradability, HDMI stuff, selective pre-amping, etc.) to Cinema 50 for a cheaper price. The reason why I considered switch from Denon to Marantz is, that I expected machine like Cinema 50 to sound much better, than Denon of similar functionality.

@seriouslyaye

Жыл бұрын

@@PetrKrenzelok The 3700 is a fairly new receiver so I didn’t expect a huge jump in performance. Plus I haven’t listened to music through the Marantz so maybe that’s where the real difference is. I must say, I don’t regret buying the Cinema 50. It’s a very nice bit of kit and I think it will warm up and grow on me

@PetrKrenzelok

Жыл бұрын

@@UnitedRedDevil13 Not sure. I have Denon x3500h and bought Cinema 50 too. Marantz has more clarity in mids and heights,wider sound stage. But Denon had more punch and I am missing a bit of bass. Bought Rel sub, as I was at 5.0 only. Not sure how Cinema 50 and 60 compare. Try to get some good deal and go Cinema 50.

Questions, what if u want 6 Subwoofers?

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

There is little benefit beyond 4 but you can ysplit out to more subs if you need it.

Marantz was supposedly "Turning a new leaf" or "starting over" with the design language and upgraded componentry of Model 30 being the "New look" to start a whole new 2-channel high-end integrated type universe which was supposed to be completely separate from their usual AVR stuff.... Well, it now looks like Marantz just couldn't resist the temptation to carry this new "design language" back down to their older and lower-end AVR series, thus reducing effective product differentiation... Instead of two different 'legs' of products, their back to one again! :)

@BobFrostV

Жыл бұрын

It's all high end now. Just add the pretty faceplate, 1k usd to the price and poof.

Please help Denon 4700h ore Yamaha a6a ore this one

Surprised there is no AV 7706 replacement at this point

These AVR's look really good. But are they better value than Anthem? I love Anthem for sound quality and bang for $$.

@BobFrostV

Жыл бұрын

I'm leaning the same way. At this point the MRX1140 is looking like a good deal when compared to Marantz. It's funny that the Denons are slated to crush Marantz in value and performance by a landslide. It's going to be impossible to recommend Marantz I think. Unless someone wants to spend $1800 extra for a pretty faceplate.

@borlach321

Жыл бұрын

@@BobFrostV I agree.

Great overview Gene ! No replacement for the flagship SR8015 yet.. 'Cinema 30' rated at 150 W probably ? I guess this will be released next year, no less than $7K I reckon.

@stephenjacks2785

Жыл бұрын

Cinema 50 will kill the 8015 on assignments alone do your research before making a statement, i too had my doubts until i found out what this series can do

@JJJ-dz1he

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenjacks2785 ok who cares about the assignments?🤔 Agreed with all saying there is no replacement of the flagship 8015 and once it will be we'll see... And the 40 is a 7015 with some minors changes and the hypothetical Dirac thing... Not convinced here... Maybe after some reviews 😔

@AchillesEconomou

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenjacks2785 I'm not talking about assignments, but Power and Number of Channels. Denon's new flagship (AVR-A1H - $6,499) is rated at 150 W x 15 ch, so Marantz should release an equal-spec flagship AVR. This is how the market works, every brand has its own flagship model in every category. Cinema 40 is rated only at 125 W x 9ch, similar to the current SR7015, so this is NOT their flagship model so far. That's exaclty what Gene's written in this overview i.e Marantz's flagship AVR is still the SR8015, (140W x 11Ch )

@TomBartol

Жыл бұрын

@@JJJ-dz1he If you can buy xx15, or denon x7xx, do it, new C40/50 or x8xx, are not worth the price bumb, not even close, you get almost nothing.

@AchillesEconomou

Жыл бұрын

@@JJJ-dz1he Exactly ! The 40 is a 7015 with a different faceplate + 2 additional sub outputs, no major changes here. With the same money you can still get the 8015 anyway..

Glad the storm didn't affect you guys.

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

We got severe winds and rain but manageable since we hurricane proofed prior.

But how many boxes in one room... 20.4.20?. Lol. I'll love to have one if I got dedicated home cinema room. Must say loving the new look.

@Rene_Christensen

Жыл бұрын

No walls, all speakers 😂

If I have to spend 7k on marantz and then pay additional for dirac live room correction.. I would rather go for jbl sysnthesis av or arcam 90

My man gene really said the Wii Had to make me do a double take and look to see what the year on the calendar says 😌

Great review as always Gene THX. Question: If Marrantz has a 70% power guarantee over 5 (or 7) channels, what realistically gets sent when you run 5.1.4 ... 9 channels? Would you surmise an RX A2080 Yamaha alo be capable of 70% over 5/7 channels? 50% over 5.1.4 channels? For science! God Bless... I'm glad you and the FAM. were spared from Ian... :)

@TomBartol

Жыл бұрын

My opinion is that every receiver should have 2 data, 2ch and all channels driven.

In honesty is 8k really relevant to home cinema? Is there any real difference over 4K?

@avsystem3142

Жыл бұрын

If you have a 200" screen in your home theater then 8K might make a visible difference in resolution.

@andrewjackson9417

Жыл бұрын

@@avsystem3142 Just what I wuz thinking. I don't know anyone with a 200" screen though.

I'm so interested in the Marantz Cinema 50. But after this video, I want to hold out for the review and actual listening comparison between the Cinema 50 vs Cinema 40. I would love to know is it worth it to spend an extra $1000 to upgrade to Cinema 40 or not when when it make sense to do so. I love both movie and music and that why I consider Marantz now instead of Denon because it seem like I can get both with Marantz. Can't afford McIntosh yet lol

@phamthuongbvna

Жыл бұрын

The extra $1000 I could really spend it on second subwoofer SB3000 on the front. Then latter on adding two more white SB3000 Micro for the back that also work as decoration stands as well since they are so silent(no vibration) and no body know they seating next to a subwoofer lol

@demonreturns4336

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you got yourself a great plan there 👍

I bought an Onkyo TX-SR500 5.1 Home Theatre package from Circuit City back in the day 2002 (Remember that place, haha). Anyways it Died... and I have been using a Denon AVR-S540BT as my receiver while still using the speaker set-up and sub ( SKF-100 BKshlfs, SKW-100 SUB,SKC-100 Ctr,SKM-100 SRnds). How do you feel about this set-up, and what advice would you give to a very budget type of guy that may want to upgrade? I think I can get a better, more crisp sound from this receiver and I just don't know the speaker/sub to be looking at.

The problem I have is my sr7012 just died and I bought it new and I had it for around 3 years. I feel if you pay that much for a receiver it should last more than three years.

@thepracticalaudiophile

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I have the AV7705 surround processor. it died after very minimal use. Also had an Onkyo receiver that died and I repaired that one but fortunately still works after repair.

@jasonsullivan8001

Жыл бұрын

@@thepracticalaudiophile well mine has been abused. So I don’t blame it. I did a factory reset, and it seems to be working for now.

@thepracticalaudiophile

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonsullivan8001 I did that but didn't do anything. Still shuts off intermittently.

@jasonsullivan8001

Жыл бұрын

@@thepracticalaudiophile bummer they don’t make these build avr’s to last anymore.

I can't understand WHY don't have a Cinema 30 for SR8015, I can't even choose the SR7015 cause ins't power enough like my CHEAPER X6500H 😒

I’m really glad to see that the folks at Marantz are phasing out old-school analog connections. I like the simplicity of that. These look like beautiful receivers but those prices! Wow. This is a really helpful overview Gene, I appreciate you making this video.

sadly....No silver option for the C40 Update. In Europe still a silver option!

Waiting for class D receivers >_< aka Pioneer & Onkyo but still no word on them yet

interesting for home use: Cinema 40 = 7015 = Denon 4800 / Cinema 50 = 6015 = Denon 3800

I would like to settle at Cinema 50 but it does not have the front panel display as the 40. Kind stupid to pay $1000 just to get the display.

Expected move from Sound United. It was obvious that MARANTZ would go PREMIUM. They want to appeal towards a different target group as well as marry their products with their B&W speakers. They target a clientele who like design & looks along with great audio quality and can afford more expensive gear. For those who cannot, or don't care about design they offer the Denon / Polk Audio alternative. I don't imply that Denon AVRs are inferior in sound quality than Marantz , their main difference is the exterior ( aluminum faceplate) which is more expensive to produce, hence their price difference. Finally, for those that money's not an issue they offer ULTRA-PREMIUM systems as well (e.g B&W 800 series with Classe Amplification)

@chloeleedow7250

Жыл бұрын

I'd be happy with a dennon x4800h and a full set of polk r700s and matching surrounds I think that would make a very good system for the money although their subs don't look much chop and never have and im a bit of a polk fan boy I like their sound signature more on the warm side but you're totally right what you're saying with who they target dennon amps look ugly and old but I'm not wealthy so I might have to swallow that pill at some point 😂

@AchillesEconomou

Жыл бұрын

@@chloeleedow7250 Check out SVS Subs. Top-Notch specs and very fair prices.

My SC-LX901 continues to prove the beast. No need for 4K 120Hz yet... or 8K for years... so no need to upgrade as long as my Elite keeps pumping. But these are very nice, and LOOK VERY NICE. So glad they got rid of the rounded facia... I wasn't a fan.

@boomerscs9193

Жыл бұрын

I'm still rocking my 901 as well. I see no reason to upgrade until a better class D receiver comes out. Too bad it looks like Pioneer is giving up on ICE.

@ryanfuller5

Жыл бұрын

@@boomerscs9193 The Class D3 amplifiers in the 901 are not ICE amps as far as I know, but proprietary amps to Pioneer. I believe they dropped the ICE amps after the SC-3X line back in 2013ish... I may be wrong, or misunderstood your comment. Feel free to clarify or discuss :)

@boomerscs9193

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I just meant Pioneer is giving up class D in general.

@ryanfuller5

Жыл бұрын

@@boomerscs9193 That's an interesting piece of information, I hadn't heard. They sort of "pioneered" it, pun absolutely intended, in the AVR world. I know ONKYO and INTEGRA adopted the Class D3 amplification since acquiring Pioneer, so it would be interesting to see where they all go next...

@ddcrocky3831

4 ай бұрын

Would you say the 901 has a warm sound thank you

8K is the best !

This is a Gamechanger

Dammmm!!!!!!!!! Time to sell my Marantz 8015!

Doubt I could hear the difference between the 40 and 50.

Great receivers, but the value preposition is off.

I'm not a prophet but it seems we would see a Cinema 30 and 20 to propose 11.4 and 13.4 respectively. The SR8015 needs an upgrade!

You can get an aftermarket connector for the Nintendo Wii that has an HDMI plug instead of component.

Kind of uninspiring. Feels like Dirac and the front facia aesthetic are the biggest changes.

Damn marantzs cinema 40 price point for dennon competing x4800h is massive 3500/4500 $ for marantz vs 2k for the dennon competition wtf is with that can someone tell me why that maybe? The specs are identical at face value like every spec

@BobFrostV

Жыл бұрын

Marantz and Denon were bought by a medical company on 800 million credit for specific benefits and they are squeezing the AV companies to pay it back. So I heard 7 months ago. Marantz making 1 sale probably brings in the same profit as Denon making 10 sales. Squeeze. We consumers aren't benefitting are we and the Marantz customers are especially taken for fools.

@chloeleedow7250

Жыл бұрын

@@BobFrostV well that's intriguing bud I knew some weird stuff had gone on with sound untied ofte the recent years but not that, of course it's us to foot the bill down the line lol no surprise there, another thing could be marantz seems to be preferred by audiophiles who are interested in dual purpose amps for financial reasons I think too so if people love the brand they will probably pay more for its alleged more musical sound, don't get me wrong I have liked their stuff for a long time myself but yeah this really doesn't add up unless it comes down to what you're suggesting which it may very well. I love the new look but I'd probably choose dennon for the price point or just go the 50 that extra 1000 isn't worth it to myself at least I'd like the 40 of course and the bump in wattage is always good for headroom in cinema but be keen to see genes tests when they happen and see what the pre out and amp stages are by comparison to the dennon and marantz with the same specs that my just sway my vote and I'll just have to deal with the outdated dennon looks lol still has a lot of features for the price 😊

Needs a large OLED display - not some tiny portal. It is a home theater unit right? Strange when refridgerators, gas pumps, phones all have more flexible displays than home theater equipment has. Please dump the portal tiny fixed display.

@cpa889900

Жыл бұрын

👍

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

There is a larger display under the trap door.

@boedilllard5952

Жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics Thanks - still a static display like they've had for the past decade (IMHO).

I’m Anthem guy. This is good for starters

I wish I could get an HDMI-only receiver. Pass with the analogue and the music streaming so they can lower the price. Just need Bluetooth 5.x, AptX HD, and two independent subwoofer outs. Some ppl have very simple setups and very simple needs, but still want good quality.

It not the room size really most AVR can handle that size room. Its speakers wattage and sound preference. Personally i would go with Marantz over Denon. Marantz has better build quality IMO. Denon has issues with bad HDMI boards. I would not go back to a Denon.

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

Thet have identical HDMI boards. 😆

@scotttild

Жыл бұрын

@@Audioholics They have different production lines. Also Denon runs much hotter and seem to burn out with the smallest amount of heat.

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

@@scotttild the HDMI boards are identical so what you're saying isn't true. Denon often packs a little more tech for the money than Marantz but they are more similar then they are different. I have not seen any proof of differences on reliability between the brands. This again is unsubstantiated.

@scotttild

Жыл бұрын

The most certainly have different production lines which is my point, they have different build qualities. There may have been an issue with the Denons that i had but find it odd that both of the units I had had the exact same issue with the HDMI boards going out within less than two years. I had two Marantz units and have had zero issues. I am just pointing out two different builds and two different production lines. Maybe Denon fixed this issue just saying they are different build qualities and they perform different which is not untrue.

@Audioholics

Жыл бұрын

@@scotttild you're a statistical outlier. The HDMI boards are identical in both production lines. The slight component differences between the lines should have no bearing on reliability. If you've had better luck with Marantz, then stick with them. I own an SR8015 and many Denons in the past. They typically don't break.

I really don't understand why they still put 'legacy ' connections on the back panel? Who use them unless you want to use a Lear Jet 8 track player! take so much real estate ☹️☹️

Why are we even talking about 8k? There is zero content out there. Just more marketing to get us to chase and upgrade. They need to up the bar every year, otherwise there's no reason to upgrade. More snake oil imo.

Guys and girls, Arcam Avr20 blows Marantz SR7013 out of existence, it's not even close. Even my good old Harman Kardon AVR 370 blows Marantz out of water, possible even more. Bass performance is so much better and theres is no "vail" over speakers. No Audyssey app can fix that - and belive me, I tried for a year. My 2 cents. 🙂