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@swnkyxoxo

2 жыл бұрын

You finally got sponsored! :)

@matthewbarnes1259

2 жыл бұрын

I love your content and have been following since < 9,000 subscribers although I've never commented until now.... I'm a serious night owl and am curious, is it possible, viable even, for you to do a video about what nighttime during boot camp or basic, even life in the barracks is like? Just asking, I seriously love what you do all the same!

@AutoSanchezMusic

2 жыл бұрын

god damn that game sucks

@just8192

2 жыл бұрын

no

@tedeitel8060

2 жыл бұрын

Sir I believe you play video games. As much as someone like myself would play that crap real men have better ways to waste time.

Not me in the video, but I like that Drill SGT’s motivation.

@damianmlamb

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 I wondered if you would see this lmao

@eachann_7507

2 жыл бұрын

Yooooooo acccc

@kamrynsmart9151

2 жыл бұрын

Love you ac

@jr-a-cat

2 жыл бұрын

They need to clone AC and let him do his stuff .

@jadensawyer3172

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t angry enough to be him

the drill sergeant trying to contain his laughter while saying "you shot it all, private" gets me every time

@UglyJaguar

2 жыл бұрын

Me too bro😂😂

@seankingsland

2 жыл бұрын

"How did that happen" You shot it all private 🤣😂 Not trying to Monday morning quarterback here but..I took tactical training under SF instructors. First thing we were taught was to keep track of every round we used. You can never recall a shot so you better be damned sure of where and how many go.

@johnhildenbrand2642

2 жыл бұрын

@@seankingsland Doing that while taking a class run by former SF is one thing, ratchet that stress up a bit and see how well you do with it. That's just a bit of stress, it gets even more difficult when your playing for real

@akulkis

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhildenbrand2642 The point is to make counting your rounds a habit. If the is formed habit under low stress, then done again during moderate stress, you should be able to continue it during high stress. In high stress situations, soldiers revert to their training (if it's been well-rehearsed) and habits, because it's difficult to think, so going with the ready-made answer reduces the cognitive load. This is why fighting doctrine is important, and why training doctrine constantly changes to reflect changes in fighting doctrine. During the Iraq War, fighting doctrine evolved continuously, and changes in theater were communicated to the basic training and ait drill sergeants on a regular basis.

@johnhildenbrand2642

2 жыл бұрын

@@akulkis Trust me, I know. I served from 06-11 in the Infantry and spent 2 deployments in Afghanistan, and I don't care how well trained you are, when the close ambush happened, you were not counting rounds, the tactical adjustment that was made after the first incident was to count the rounds AFTER the incident, and then stack ammo in the HMMWV to make sure we had at least 2 or more times that amount available so that counting wasn't a necessary thing in that moment again. There comes a time where the stress gets so high that certain things are just not going to be possible, and PKM'S and 240's going back and forth at less than 100 meters was absolutely one of those times.

Get two platoon of recruits starting on the same day. One platoon trained the old fashion way, the other the new 'woke" way. Ensure platoons AND instructors do not communicate with their counterparts. Ensure the instructors get a reward if their platoon wins. Then towards the end of their course, put the platoons head to head to accomplish tasks and see which method of training is the best?

@ArthurCallahan389

Жыл бұрын

I like that, but I agree with Kascio, the dress wearing idiots in charge would never allow their work ways to be humiliated!

@imperfect-creations.

Жыл бұрын

@@ArthurCallahan389 of course . How else do you think they keep that pointed nose's shined up all the time .

@mattm7798

Жыл бұрын

@@nahyeahwhatsahandle Exactly. I never served so I can't say from personal experience which is better but given the times of extreme stress they will experience in the field, getting them prepared for that and ensuring they can still function well seems to be rather important. Now, if new research has come out that has shown a more effective way of achieving that, then so be it but the woke ideology only goes so far if you start loosing battles because soldiers are not trained well enough.

@woodywoodpecker9408

Жыл бұрын

Good thought!!!

@TJ-ve8sv

Жыл бұрын

Nope. You're using logic. Stop it immediately!

I did basic at Ft Benning in 1987 at the age of 17. I have to agree with the commentator, the shark attack shocked the hell out of me and set the tone for the rest of the training.

@censorshipsucks9493

4 ай бұрын

Fort Sill, 1989. Same thing. Oh, and then when they were all done my platoon drill sergeant was not done with us. Oh, no private. We don't do regular pushups in my platoon. Diamonds! Diamonds are a private's best friend.

@rbyq6398

4 ай бұрын

Ft Leonard wood 1987 the Army is a joke now compared to the past.

@DocGTO

3 ай бұрын

Benning in 1990. Totally agree.

I was raised by a career military dad. When I went to boot camp in 1977, with all the yelling and screaming and insults, I thought I was back home🤣 Good times…good times.

@grimgoreironhide9985

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@nunyabidness2143

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I was 17 when I went to basic. I was laughing my ass off at the 21+ year old men that were crying because they were getting yelled at. Pops did 22 years, me getting yelled at like this was a norm. So yeah good times!! Lmao

@ErikPT

Жыл бұрын

Ah, a military kid eh? Lol I take it you felt right home eh!

@AbuHajarAlBugatti

6 ай бұрын

What a shitty dad

@madfoxgaming2493

6 ай бұрын

Lmfao

A quote I heard a retired Green Beret say about modern military movements "Should we come up against a worthy opponent on the battlefield and lose we will have no-one to blame but ourselves."

@dalechaney8466

Жыл бұрын

We've gotten too complacent

@GH-tp6vu

9 ай бұрын

As a former Green Beret he is absolutely correct. We have a military full of whimps and cowards.

In the old Army, TRADOC gave these NCO's permission to let out all their PTSD on these recruits and it usually worked. Some had it all together, while others really did seem crazy. But we came out stronger and with a better understanding of earning it.

0311 USMC here, while I do for the most part agree with your stance on the heavy weight waivers not being a good thing, I do have to say and give testimony to a dude I went it P.I. Boot camp with, guy was short. Maybe 5’5-5’7, weighed close to 200 lbs if I had to guess looking back 12 years. Not a single one of us or the DI’s thought he’d last through first phase. Not only did he graduate and get the EGA, brother lost over 60lbs. He was so unrecognizable on graduation day that his family didn’t even recognize him. I don’t remember what his MOS was or where he went but I will never forget that as long as I live. Semper fuckin Fi.

The shark attack sets the tone in my opinion. It's the first real eye opener for recruits and lets them know that they aren't civilians anymore. Sure, some drills may have enjoyed smoking Pvt Snuffy on his first day and yelling to the point of getting frog voices, but most know it's a developmental tool to make them respect authority and help mold the new guys into what the Army needs. The first 100 isn't a terrible idea either, but it definitely should be a developmental tool used in conjunction with or after the shark attack.

@desertrat7634

2 жыл бұрын

Now the absence of shark attack sets the tone.

@NicCageForPresident2024

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot about Pvt Snuffy. They would use that term.

@NicCageForPresident2024

2 жыл бұрын

Good old Joe Snuffy

@davidcraft4636

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree.

@zachgallegos6248

2 жыл бұрын

When I did this the shark attack was after in the cta it was complete chaos with drill running around and screaming and spitting in your face lol, we didn’t hold our duffels over our heads but we would go touch the tank and pay taxes before coming back into the cta and ungodly amount of push-ups lol like non stop for the first 3 days…

I agree with you about having more training vs getting more high speed equipment. I also think they should've never gotten rid of the shark attack. I remember being yelled at and running hills at Ft. Benning with my bags over my head until I threw up. Reality sets in and things get real. No one was worried about thier "feelings". They just want to survive and become strong

@thesocialistsarecoming8565

2 жыл бұрын

A good bit of shock always helps reality set in. Im only in rotc, joined this college semester. And while it doesnt compare to the shark attack, It really f*cking set in what i had agreed to do when i was standing in formation at 0530 in the apfu Tee and shorts in 35 degree weather getting ready to run for the first time.

@janaicrumity4615

2 жыл бұрын

I went through September 2021 , we did this but also the shark attack… I think it depends on the DS

@johnnyerazo2360

2 жыл бұрын

Great feeling of only remembering literally the first 3 hours of shark attack

@juggernaut8456

2 жыл бұрын

you get comfortable throwing up fast, thats why later you drink till formation the next morning and throw up on your run like its a walk in the park.... agree on all points

@Borat_Kazakh

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure the Ukrainian army and territorial defense forces have a lot of shouting, running in place, being called names before they go in and incredibly blow hundreds of Russian tanks, APCs, kill thousands of Russian soldiers, etc. If you want to go down that road-- the Russian army conscripts have the worst hazing experience of all modern armies. And you've heard how motivated those Russian conscript prisoners sound, when being interviewed. Hazing has nothing to do with being a good soldier.

This describes why the Army is the way it is. Bring back the discipline.

@DavidThomas-me6pi

2 ай бұрын

It's a joke.

Most important: extreme obedience, sharp wits, high level endurance & killer instincts

I'd propose adding more simulated combat scenarios where different teams have to actually shoot at eachother. I don't care if you're using simfire, simunition, paintball or even airsoft. You learn a lot about tactics when you're trying to shoot at human targets who are trying to shoot you first. Mock patrols while firing at imaginary enemies don't teach you that much.

@joshuaforbus5853

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot to knock MILES gear or whatever the abbreviation was. 1997-2006 Marine infantryman Sgt. and School of Infantry instructor. I like your imagination. Become a officer and utilize it. Semper Fi

@Aaron-rj7bv

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaforbus5853 The problem with MILES gear is that it hasn't really been maintained very well, at least from my experience in the Army before I got out. Batteries were never charged or the sensors had gotten damaged and they rarely worked properly if at all. I've been out for several years now so I have no idea if it's improved or not. I did take part in pre-mob training years ago where we used the paintballs (actually filled with olive oil then) and remember catching one right in the neck that ricocheted off the neck guard of my IOTV.

@sevenproxies4255

2 жыл бұрын

@@belliduradespicio8009 Airsoft BB's will hurt too, depending on range and tuning. I've done both. Paintballs to me feel like someone knocking you on the head with one of their finger knuckles really hard. It hurts but it's sort of a blunt sensation. Airsoft BB's hitting skin or thin clothing feels like a whip crack if the gun is tuned correctly. Either way, I like the fact that both give you direct feedback of when you get hit and have done something wrong. You learn from it quite quickly and start adapting your tactical thinking. I also see a lot of people in the armed forces doing both hobbies in their spare time, and they all say that it's good training which is why they keep playing. In some cases they even say that it's better training than the exercises they are put through at work, because a lot of their exercises are like "shadow boxing" (you mostly just fire at imaginary targets)

@PLONG12345

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, this is actually the reason why competitive athletes are better than Military soldiers at specific and individual task. While an Airsofter dont fire actual guns they probably are more experienced tactically and with opponents actually fighting back than soldiers fresh out of bootcamps same with an MMA or Boxer who fights real people and sparring a lot than just showing restraining and striking techniques you see the Military way of training soldiers in Bootcamp is like the traditional martial arts training Demonstrating techniques but never actually sparred or compete which is the most important aspect and the reason why MMA fighters are more effective than traditionalist this is even true for Military battles. Military should use a competitive environment where they make soldiers go against someone who will try to win against them battling with witts and things you will never learn in a book or presentation.

@TacShooter

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously! I've had more fire and movement training in the civilian world playing military-grade laser tag and airsoft milsim than I had in 3 years in the Army. I did two rotations at JRTC and we spent most of our time within our perimeter doing support soldier tasks and guard duty.

My nephew graduated 1 station infantry/AIT training in January. His father is a retired Msgt. His grandfather was a retired SFC. His brother and I are retired AF. My nephew knows his way around the military to say the least. He said the whole process was like summer camp for Boy Scouts and a joke. 'Nuff said...

@brokenfuzzy4427

2 жыл бұрын

Fort Sill in the winter was definitely anything but summer camp. It’s different, but it’s not a fun experience by any means.

@norton2757

2 жыл бұрын

The generation is soft so they have to soften the training for them….. I went through in 1984. We had one death during the training phase which occurred on the confidence course. It was tough but I’ll bet it was soft for us compared to the recruits that went through during the Viet Nam era.

@Secretsquirrel27

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your family history.

@bennettbrown5605

2 жыл бұрын

@@norton2757 lol, Ft Sill just had a death like a month or so ago, one of the sister batteries to the one I graduated from not too long ago. Things have changed, some for the better, some for the worse, but the soldier's who come out of it are still Soldiers.

@norton2757

2 жыл бұрын

@@bennettbrown5605 LOL?….. is a soldiers death that funny to you?

Veteran here. It's not just about the capability to fight, it's about the inherent ability of violence of action. I would rather have a squad with minimal supplies, but the mindset of ruthless warriors than a squad of well stocked pushovers.

@captaincool9636

Жыл бұрын

Ur not a veteran

@johncox2912

2 ай бұрын

SHAZAM!!! Spot on.

I'm 50yoa now and went through boot camp in 92'. Shark attack weeded out the weak from the strong, showed drill instructors who needed attention, and those who were fit enough to advance. We had requirements you had to meet in order to even go forward from MEPS. You had to be able to complete a certain amount of push ups, and sit ups to go down range. If you didn't meet those requirements you were sent to a different training area to get in shape before you could start boot camp training. They are sending our new recruits into service without the proper training and setting them up for failure if this is how they are sending them to their active duty stations? Surely they are not sending them without being properly trained?

I remember the days of Marine Corps Bootcamp. All the screaming, quarter decking, sand pits in the first month leading up to the rifle range. By the third month there was a great pride, everything is running smoothly for the most part, drill is perfected, you see all the new recruits looking like garbage. Anyway, the initial breakdown is essential for military training, break the person of old habits, and ways of thinking, teamwork comes later, couple months later.

@MichaelEhline

2 жыл бұрын

Army was always inferior. That's why they have Rangers to separate the army boot camp morons from the ones who actually want to be more like Marines.

@nexusdrop7863

2 жыл бұрын

I think so. I feel lucky to have been before this crap. Was Army, so I would say easier than Marine but still.... It used to be everyone remembered their Basic Drill Sargent (Instructor) and now they might be forgotten like your AIT ones.

@anthonymendez5768

2 жыл бұрын

Rahh!

@vagabondaloner5650

2 жыл бұрын

@@nexusdrop7863 I was Army as well. I used to feel bad for the marines and whoever their future spouses would be. They were definitely putting in work, going through it, and looking totally defeated during training😢😳 Fort Sam Houston, we trained on the same base.

@vagabondaloner5650

2 жыл бұрын

I actually remember my recruiters and AIT DS (all tried for sexual encounters, or gave me a fake bonus/deal,) more than BCT drills. My main concern with Basic was not hitting the ground after the first push-up 🤣🤷🏾‍♀️

just graduated infantry osut in december and i can tell you that yes it was hard , but when they extended the training there was no added training , they just had it more separated, which really was terrible for all of us because we had alot of free time and had nothing to do from thursday until the weekend , still couldnt see our families or get our phones so it didnt feel productive at all

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

congrats. i hate adding more training that is dead time. skip weekends off and just train for the same total number of days. no cell phones in training. What do i mean. if the training days are 120 jam that into 4 months instead of 6. No point in dead time for young men to miss Susie back home or get in trouble.

@ipman4715

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels i can't understand dead time.. When i went thru fort knox we were always on the move. They combined basic and AIT. Never a dull moment for us.

@KM-ew5rl

2 жыл бұрын

All of military is dead time. TRADOC is a joke, always has been.

@17sapun

2 жыл бұрын

" still couldnt see our families or get our phones so it didnt feel productive at all"

@TexasSurplusPro

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll be blunt my OSUT was mostly a waste of time. Besides the number of guys they’re tying to get primed to move onto a combat unit, there is no need for it to have been as long as it was previously. There were so many days we’d hear, “You’ll learn that when you get to your unit.” Then why are we there in the first place? Those were typically the critical skills that keep you from getting killed. It was such a basic primer, if you want quality training in most cases you’ll need to pay for it out of pocket.

Maybe I had it easy. Did basic in 1983 at 17. My drills were mostly Vietnam vets. I had a great time. The "shark attack" was a breeze. If you did exactly as they said as quickly as possible they never bothered with you. I was 6'4" then and about 190. Its funny how drills never seemed to notice one of the biggest guys in a training platoon. Why? Because if you go in expecting it to be a hell and determined to bust your ass, somehow its actually easy. I came out in great shape for my senior year of high school, and two-a-days for football in the 90+ degree Texas sun were a breeze.

I went to Army Basic a long time ago, long enough ago that my Drills wore CIBs and Combat Patches from Vietnam Nam. I do not remember any shark attacks even when we had knuckle heads ordering pizza delivered to the barracks or wear jump books at first formation. I remember lots of PT because of those events, returning to the building and the Drills disappearing so we could have a blanket party. There still seems to be plenty of yelling and PT to correct poor performance. Most old Joes and Janes forget how jacked they were as privates so it is easy to say today’s troops are so soft. Younger people are always softer than the generation ahead of them. Read ANY historical work and you will find even the Greeks, Egyptians, and Romans found this to be true. Nothing new. Just because something is new doesn’t mean it is better, worse, easier, or harder. It only means that change is a true constant.

@ManiacMeats

6 ай бұрын

Spot on & hard agree.

Jamesons travels as a soldier who is new to the army only 8 months in I wish things were harder during my basic I sure hell needed By the way great video

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

100% of the fine young men I have spoke with, like yourself, want it hard. they don't want it watered down. they want to test their metal. I do like the army increased boot camp/infantry 22 weeks. More training the better. Enjoy the ride and stay around positive people only.

@SimTippe

2 жыл бұрын

I almost wonder if the redesign was based on the rangers .... But army training used to be known as Basic Combat Training....with the shark attack designed (I thought) to prepare you for like a front line situation, with sargent's and such screaming for you to do the right thing the first time .... It's like they forgot the combat part of the training. But the rangers do a similar thing. As soon as you get their. It's nothing but team building exercises for the first three weeks or longer.

@SimTippe

2 жыл бұрын

But now. I want to figure out a way to do calvary in the army but go to marine boot camp instead.....

@SimTippe

2 жыл бұрын

@@sgtherk5432 I have thought about this. However I'm a local trucker and currently love the company i work for... So I want Army NG atm. So I've been thinking Calvary with Airborne. And I'm really wanting that. If I were to ever roll active duty. I may switch over.. not necessarily reluctantly either.

@matthewartiles3179

2 жыл бұрын

I went to boot in 2004 it ended up being my happy place hopefully your unit will turn up the tempo

The mentality behind the 1st 100 yards is that before we become soldiers we do the last 100 yards. It's going to be like herding cats but the last one shows us and the drills how far the platoon came

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

i like the idea may week 2. week one get them standing up straight, listening, moving with violence and intent. start working on military bearing. heck, get them to stop scratching bug at Benning.

@TheLH86

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone including you keeps explaining what the first 100 yards is supposed to do. Well, newsflash, everyone understands the words being used to justify its existence. What isn't so clear is whether it's actually a useful training tool. Lets be totally clear, not every military is structured like the US branches and how they break down their recruits with the traditional shouting and screaming, that comes down to the nation in question, it's culture and the culture of its military. However, even militaries that nowadays brand themselves with "quiet professionalism" still use methods time tested to break down their recruits *before* they begin to build them back up.

Jameson is just an amazing guy with an amazing channel. We gotta get him to 1 million subs!!! He’s slowly getting to KZread legend status

I went through Basic in 1985. I was older then most of the people with me but there were a few who were older. Oddly enough, they spent most of their time working with the younger guys. When I see videos of the people in Basic, I just smile. The instructors are there pumping it up for the cameras. Saw that when we have "visitors" come through. When I realized what it was I just played along.

The Shark Attack is essential. Essential. And it should be applied early and often. It, perhaps more than any other component of Boot Camp, transforms a recruit from a sniveling, wilting flower into a soldier who is beginning to be able to handle the hell of combat. The Shark Attack and a general uncompromising demand for attention to detail are cornerstones to building a soldier.

@JR-ez3zd

2 жыл бұрын

A WILTING FLOWER 🥀 INTO A VENUS FLY TRAP!

@johnedwards2759

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. One size fits all. Everyone is the same. spoken like an uneducated person.

@atlhoe564

Жыл бұрын

Seems like a very abusive practice. Glad it got banned.

@selftrue670

Жыл бұрын

@@atlhoe564 Not banned, but certainly toned down.

@DPSS808

Жыл бұрын

@@atlhoe564 I'd be willing to bet war is a very abusive practice. Probably should ban war.

I completed basic training at Fort Dix in 1983 when the two biggest differences between ARMY and USMC initial training was that the Marines had better marksmanship training, one shot one kill vs accuracy by volume of fire and the Marine Corp also had hand to hand which we did not probably because I was a howitzer mechanic. We did not say “one shot one kill” but we did say “as long as I have a thumb and a forefinger I can still shoot”. Combat should be as much about survival as it is killing the enemy, all basic combat skills are important to all military personnel.

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

The Marine Corps does a great job in a week at getting new guys to basic proficiency with the rifle. My 2 cents. Have every force do the same marksmenship training. Then add another 2 weeks of night, patroling and weapon system drills. (morters, saws etc). Considering even the most green supply clerk could be on a convey (Jessica Lynh) the more drills with weapons and of course live fire will never hurt.

@jtoad99

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, I was also at Dix in 1983. What month were you there? I was there from June to early Sept.

@christopherwood2796

2 жыл бұрын

Fort Dix 1988. Then again to process to go overseas in late 1990.

@remowilliams8118

2 жыл бұрын

My apologies for a typo, it was'84, July to September, after 11thgrade. Split training. Spent my summer at basic training C-5-5 under the expert tutelage of Drill Sergeant Smith, back for senior year and off to Fort Knox for AIT.

@jgt5463

2 жыл бұрын

In the Marine Corps, every Marine is first and foremost a rifleman.

Thank you for your honorable service! May God bless you and your beautiful family🙏

Concerning what the DS stated for the camera, as a retired Navy Chief, what the military puts out is still put out to the Sailors and the public are different from what is said in the Goatlocker. What's said in the mess stays in the mess.

I’m a firm believer (as an airman) that the Air Force needs more combat training. We should have at least the same amount of combat training (to include rucking, land navigation, etc.) as the Army has in basic training. Because when working as joint services in a deployed location, a solider or marine should be able to look at an airman or sailor and trust that we all have each other’s back should something go wrong.

@garywilloughby6893

2 жыл бұрын

1964-1968 I agree, those airman that was sent to Vietnam did not have any weapons training. I was lucky I was stationed at Kadena AFB for my last 2 years

@zorav1448

2 жыл бұрын

the only guys who have that type of training are security forces and all those special warfare guys. I do agree they should add it even IF you're working a desk job because at the end of the day you can be in a uniform where one person will look at you with murderous intent and you'll have to rely on some sort of training to get you back home,

@strawdawgs78

2 жыл бұрын

@@zorav1448 Air Force weather personnel doing Army support get some decent "combat" training as well.

@strawdawgs78

2 жыл бұрын

I just assumed all Airmen were badasses because of how they were portrayed in Battle: Los Angeles. Switched over to the Air Force from the Marine Corps and promptly found out that this was not the case.

@IAMDPP

2 жыл бұрын

I strongly agree

I remember day 1 of basic, I was scared shitless. Looking back at those drill sergeants in their 20s it seems almost crazy, but at the time they had my attention. I knew who was in charge, I knew my place as a private. These days I'm a chaplain and I can say without doubt the level of professionalism is down, courtesies lack, respect is lower. The purpose of the military is to kill, and so many of these kids are simply not in the right headspace for that. It is all a game for many of these Soldiers.

@JoshuaLandergren-kr9rz

6 ай бұрын

Don't worry they'll get weeded out 😂 there's still some tough SOBs enlisting today

@M5guy8191

6 ай бұрын

@@JoshuaLandergren-kr9rzthank god

Soldiers are more scared of "SHARP" than the enemy. This is what we have become...

I think the team building was in mind while setting this type of event up, but I also think that because we did this later on in marine bootcamp, we learned valuable lesson that just because someone is your "friend" you cant always depend on them to be on your level. Great way to boost moral in the winning platoon but we shouldn't be boosting platoon moral instead of individual confidence for the first few weeks. the first 3-5 weeks should be conditioning, then basic training of necessary skills, then team building. it forces the single marine or soldier to know their worth, prove it, then preform for their fellow devil dogs or soldiers.

Hands down more time at the range, and studying various weapon systems, and maintenance.

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

i could see 3 weeks filled with weapons systems, range time and advanced patrolling. worth every penny.

@Shadow-jm7ob

2 жыл бұрын

Ya can imply both. Not only did the stress continue with smoke session and yellin and drillen, we hand to know different friendly, enemy takes, capabilities, different weapons we would be usin , which we did in basic in my day, know everything, from weight, range, point Target, area target, employ them in a timely manner, which was always a impossible time hack, take em apart and put em together. We had to disassemble and reassemble out M16 in a lotted mount of time, blindfolded. We did get range time with every weapon at the time the infantry was using. Mk19, m2, m60, m249, M16, m9, tow system, hand grandes, even the bayonet and hand to hand combat, not this man love they do now days.

@olddog6658

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels In 1961 after 14 weeks boot we got 2 hours base liberty, then boarded busses to camp Pendleton for 30 days infantry training. All hands, we lived as grunts. Day & nite op's Weapons training BAR, .30 cal 1917 & M-2 .50 cal MG, 3.5 rocket launcher, flame thrower, grenades you name it we shot it. When I graduated from ITR infantry training reg. I walked on water. Later I was on Okinawa and there went to NCO school, Jungle warfare, Escape & evasion, ABC (atomic, biological & chemical school. Next stop Chu Lai 1st MarDiv. 1965-66. Left RVN on july 27th was a civilian standing on street in Anaheim CA. on aug 3....Semper fi pogues.

in 1981 USMC we did not do very much small teams work which is what I had to learn later after bootcamp and infantry school. Working as a fireteam is critical to success.

Mr. Jamison,.. your insight is spot on. My Dad is a 1944 graduate of paris Island and when he watches this is just laughs. I'm sure you can relate sir. Best Regards,...

I remember questioning every single decision I’d made in my short 17 years of life during the shark attack.

@joyriley5303

2 жыл бұрын

❤️

@mattm7798

Жыл бұрын

I'll bet. It seems the effort is to lesson the psycological scars military service has on people...I always though the act of being in the military meant to accepted that risk. I'm not saying we should go back to DIs punching people or slamming their head into a chalkboard, but come one, they are being prepared for war, not a casual discussion with the enemy.

@BattleGn0me

Жыл бұрын

As a Marine, I remember boot camp was a continuous shark attack all the upthough most of second phase. I was heartened and posotively to witness the Army had similar enculturation when I attended my son graduate OSUT as Armorcrewman about a decade ago. I hop the Drills find a workaround and keep up the cultural enrichment activity.

I love the idea of more training time. You can tell the renew first day of basic was thought out about by some college graduate who wasn't hugged enough, yes our fine officer Corp. Do you really expect a bunch of kids straight out of high school be able to organize, plan and execute the first day? As well as pay attention to detail? This is the whole process of basic. They are definitely putting the cart before the horse on this one.

@vagabondaloner5650

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you 💯 I joined the Army at like 28, with some education behind me. They had kids (even 17 y/o) coming straight outta high school, outranking me!! Like WTF😠

@matthewquintana3943

Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly this was the Sergeant Major of the Army's brainchild, not an Officer's...

You are 100% right on all of your points. Thank you sir.

How in the hell are those troops going to handle the stress of coming under fire, if they can't even handle being yelled at?

Had a friend who went 11b after leaving the navy (blue to green) . Anyways he said that one of the first weeks at benning his drill sergeant told him “ Pri you got 5 seconds to un **** yourself “ and he carried on. My friend sounded off “ Aye Aye Drill sergeant ! “ I’m sure it was just a force of habit but I’ll let you imagine what followed.

That guy being interviewed (SFC Summerlin) was my Drill Sergeant last year when I was in Basic, he was a crazy guy but he cared unlike so many others.

@ellarother2963

2 жыл бұрын

I believe I met him when I was there. He was in my brigade.

An old football coach in my Hi School on the first day of spring training, held up a football, asking us all to take a good look and remember what it looked like. He told us the reason that this was the last time we could see a football until the last week of spring training. Next we ran and did the most outrageous PT on this earth. (Half the team quite on the first day!) So I'm saying get the troops in shape, learn to follow commands, lean to march, the basic, the rest will fall into place.

I dont know what recruiters were thinking other than some are just destined for cannon fodder .we had guys that couldn't pour piss out their boots . One dude wanted to kick my ass for telling him milk came from cows .

I went to a military high school from the air force in Argentina until I've graduated in 2016, now I'm 23. And although we were never treated like in a real army because we were underage kids from 13 to 17, but still had the basic hierarchy and discipline expected from any army (although we were never officially IN the military, unless you followed the military career after graduation). Watching how the Drill Sargent acts In this new video reminded me how our own treated us when we were 14. So looks like they're transforming the US Army into a kindergarten indeed.

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

my take. anyone who joins wants the military stuff the new training is going away from on the surface. I do find bright spots in longer infantry training. Best call would be to cut cell phones, libo and powerpoints out of the instruction and pack it into the same training days but less wasted time.

@bouzzard4871

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels Indeed, As long as that extra time remains productive, I see no issue at all. I just keep comparing it to my experience in High School in a military school (because I haven't followed the military career afterwards, but I've always been interested in such things). Back in my time, cell phones were strictly forbidden, and PowerPoints were only used in during class. Since it was a high school, the basic stuff (Math, Science, English, Spanish, Economy, etc) was given during morning schedule, while the military stuff (Running through the field, Shooting at the range, Military Theory & "performance", etc) was reserved for the afternoon & evening. And it was this way through all the year, not a single moment felt wasted and you can say it was a challenge for a teenager at that time.

@batboy555

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good highschool

I'm a veteran. I remember the intense yelling and mind games inflicted on me. It wasn't pleasant, but I endured. It is a great tool to weed out the ones not suitable and hoan the ones who are. If you can't handle someone yelling at you, how are you going to be effective in combat or when your ship at sea is hit and you have to risk all to save it and keep fighting on. If you told a bunch of marines or soldiers in the 40's through the 80's that those who won an endurance test got to do 100 four count push ups (200 real push ups), while the losers were forced to watch in humiliation, the marines or soldiers would fight with all they had in their souls to win. I know because I was there. There was a pride I remember from times past. These kids today need to be instilled with that same form of fierce competitive mentality. Participation trophies fail to do this. I served with a navy Fleet Marine Corpsman who did 20 one armed pull ups just to earn a pack of dehydrated MRE strawberries. These days, new recruits seem to be readied to join the woke Cupcake Brigade. Whoever came up with this idiotic change away from the ol' esprit de corps needs to be retired to a nursing home.

@4catsnow

2 жыл бұрын

67 to 70 . Army. Government subsidized lunacy, on an industrial level...Keystroke of a typewriter or some lifer's signature on a piece of paper, you were dead...

@JackIronwood

2 жыл бұрын

The world we attended Basic Combat Training no longer exists...Now there is only woke power-point presentations, and worship of the almighty State.

@kimberlainodriscoll4781

2 жыл бұрын

@@JackIronwood I hope we can do better, because if not stopped, there may come a day when bullets are not needed anymore. The enemy will call our muffin cake warriors hurtful names to bruise their overly sensitive feelings so they run to their safe spaces and cry.

@JackIronwood

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimberlainodriscoll4781 I was already seeing troops coming in softer than 10-ply toilet paper before I recieved my honorable discharge in 2015...They weren't going to pick up my option for another 10 years of service, because I openly spoke out against the bullshit TRADOC was pushing. I'm glad I wasn't going to stick around to see the embarrassment the Army has become.

@oldnatty61

2 жыл бұрын

Preach it girl! What branch? MOS? OFFICER or Legit:)?

Dear gravy....we came off the cattle truck at Ft Sill line of drills .20 min shark attack/PT winner was guy who ended up in the wrong platoon...senior drill and top came and got him...I shudder to think...

Army can't fill its ranks so they lower standards for entry on hight weight and sometimes asvab. They get waivers, hence the term "GT waiver".

I just finished BCT at Fort Jackson 2 weeks ago. From what I have seen is that the first 100 yards does NOT established fear and discipline into people. So many guys in my platoon treated it like summer camp. And they stayed like that all the way to graduation. Still having no discipline because the Army has to be more gentle with people. Yes, Fort Jackson is one of the easier basics but it honestly wasn't enough as I and others had hoped for, it should have been way more difficult physically and mentally.

@danbrown3325

2 жыл бұрын

That's the biggest issue. I saw the chain reaction of one or two bad trainees, being allowed by policy to be miscreants, turning into demotivation and misbehavior amongst the platoon Once one trainee got to weasel their way out of something difficult, too many questioned why they didn't as well. And, despite the Drills efforts at group punishment, the excessive fear of bullying and suicide meant the Drills or us trainees could never say a damn thing to that delinquent soldier whatsoever

Would like to see more squad-based, small-team based activities (4-6 per team). Since you end up training like that later it would make it clock better and have people rotating in leadership roles more often.

Navy boot camp 79, eight weeks of ok....the tone was set on first week when our company saw another DI slap a recruit..."ok, guess these guys are serious" I always enjoy your videos, very insightful...thanks

Sept 1983 we were bussed from the reception station at Ft. Jackson to Ft. Benning ( Old Harmony Church ) arriving about 0130. We got the shark attack, went to our barracks, drew linens, ect until about 0430. Wakeup was 0600 for chow. Wore turtle shells, no soft caps till about 6 weeks in. No games, they PT'd us till we thought we were gonna die, tore us down to nothing, then built us back up as Infantrymen over the next 12 weeks. A few guys got chaptered out FTA, but most of us made it.

When I joined the Army, I was already about 28 years old, married (single)mother of 2 sons. Of course, I was thinking, 'these mofos must be crazy,' as I was even older than the drills who were over me. I remember overweight trainees being recycled until being sent home. I remember also, not having these gender/pronouns issues. I am now 43. From what I have learned, the military has changed the physical fitness standards as well, to have the sexes tested by the same physical standards😢 WTF is this country coming to😭

@ThomasBoyce5000

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know.......I really don't.

@austinhorton8103

2 жыл бұрын

Hey I'm 28 , and was thinking about joining, glad to hear you joined when you was older . Gives me strength

@dillfunk9479

2 жыл бұрын

@@austinhorton8103 not uncommon at all

@johnhildenbrand2642

2 жыл бұрын

I see no issue at all with both sex's being held to the same standard. That standard should be set to optimize successes and minimize failures on the battlefield, and when the two way rifle range opens, your genitalia aren't going to matter at all

@dillfunk9479

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhildenbrand2642 I think women should be held to higher cardio standards, being that they must work hard after hours to keep the platoon of real war fighters entertained. This is the best thing females can do to keep infantry platoons moral high and Yelp the fight.

At 5:24 my husband didn't believe I could take swats (yes even females) instead of suspension. Of course I grew up in Texas where we take corporal punishment a little more seriously than his growing up in Maryland. I'm showing him this. If I had the option of taking a few paddles at school and not having to tell my parents I got suspended, I definitely took it. My daddy didn't play games.

I learned more from physical pain then anything else at recruit training, more IT is what they need

Well, I've never been in the military, tried but it was the 80's and I was denied for medical reasons. My step dad served 17 years in the AF so I kinda grew up a military kid. The first thing they need to do, and I'm sure most would agree, is purge the system of wokeness. Go back to basics. Don't need to reinvent the wheel just mental and physical training.

We don't need a soft military, we need well trained warfighters. Bring back the Old Army!

@doingsomestuff187

2 жыл бұрын

Which old army? The one that was okay with smoking pot and using drugs in viet nam? The one with gang hazing rituals and gang ties during the GWOT? The one that it was legally mandated that you could not be openly gay? I don’t mean to say the military isn’t great, but it sure has hell never been perfect. Our soldiers have always been well trained. There’s just a lot of tik tok and Instagram to make the worst elements look worse.

@richardslaughter6652

2 жыл бұрын

@@doingsomestuff187 which ever you want guy

@johnwig285

2 жыл бұрын

The old army lost in Nam, lost in Iraq. Seems to me we have a much larger problem STRATEGICALLY than some debate over boot camp

@MichaelEhline

2 жыл бұрын

We have Marine cooks for that

@brokenfuzzy4427

2 жыл бұрын

Even the Drill Sergeants in my BCT laughed at people saying we’ve gone soft. It’s different now, but definitely not soft. We actually learn and retain useful skills now. Anyone who thinks it’s a cakewalk should give it a shot.

Last statement you made on the video is the one I can agree with you most. If they’re going to “replace” the shark attack, not a bad solution. Best reason to get rid of the shark attack is because society has changed. Not because the youth are softer, weaker, and less athletic - but because the leaders the army needs for the next war are the intelligent ones, who may look or think differently than a specific drill sgt. The nerdy glasses kid might just need weeks and weeks of PT to be a fire breather - and has the IQ to back it up since they studied computer science in their free time before joining. Discipline can be instilled at other times outside of immediately dismounting the bus, and ultimately if the drills want to do their best to teach and lead, they will earn the respect of their soldiers by the standard they maintain for themselves and for the subordinates.

@amytaylor5454

2 жыл бұрын

Hello there👋👋, how are you doing today? Hope you’re having a good day? God bless you!!!❤️

An excellency evaluation with a bonus reward would go miles. 20k a year is trash. Money speaks louder than yells. Work hard and get a 5k bonus. I’m just spit balling here. Incentivize leadership

I’m not old enough but I have been training and preparing myself for the army and now it seems like the army and army bootcamp is going downhill so I pray that the army will stay intact

I did this in early 2021 and trust me we still got all the drills in our faces like the shark attack but it was all throughout the first 2 weeks. They still put that fear in us they just ain’t doing it on camera😂

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

ah, great. as i suspect since the old DS are still there and want to train young men to be prepared.

@samkesler218

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesonsTravels i agree this video doesn’t do it justice, for us day 1-3 we got smoked in the bay because they had more control, also it rained all day one so we were soaked the entire day

@napalmstickylikeglue

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason, I suspect what you consider to be a shark attack wasn't an actual shark attack. 😏

@jasoncole8767

2 жыл бұрын

Your new generation of “smoked” is nothing compared to what the better generation went through 🤣 you guys are handed stress cards and have the mothers of America protecting you

@samkesler218

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasoncole8767 no stress cards man, the only thing they gone soft on is the drills can only smoked u for a certain amount of time at once, that being said they can rotate through the entire cadre and smoke you

Sadly I had a medic serving with me fresh out of AIT who told me they learned very little from Basic. We trained him up well though once he got to us.

I went through basic at Ft Knox in Jan/Feb 1961. I never had so much fun plus I got three good meals a day. We marched to the rifle range every day with our M1 Garands. It was so cold we wore pile caps with the ear flaps tied down; galoshes with the buckles; long johns and wool scarves. We were told to only fill our canteens 1/2 way so they wouldn't freeze and burst. I must have gained at least 20 pounds in basic. I went to AIT and volunteered for airborne from there. Spent most of the next nine years in the 101st and the 173rd.

Great video as always.

I remember in the 90s the term "helicopter parents" to describe overprotective parents get in the face of coaches and teachers because poor little Johnny couldn't possibly be third string or get a D. Nowadays I worry about the whole government being helicopter nannies. By the way I admire and appreciate the service and sacrifice everyone goes through. Thank you!

@alexmoonstar7974

2 жыл бұрын

When the parenting in this country goes down, the helicopter duties has to go to the government.

I was in one of the last cycles to go through a shark attack at Jackson about two years ago and it still felt pretty soft because covid had everyone so nervous and wearing masks so you couldn't even read a Drill Sergeants face. Took a lot of the intimidation that's meant to be there out.

The shark attack was great in the Nam era but nowadays it's a waste of training time when you can make the whole platoon sweat as to learn teamwork.

Good video. Now I know more about US Army basic training. With this information, if I do go, I can better succeed at basic training.

With the extension of training more time should be spent on basic marksmanship and maybe familiarization with soviet bloc weapons so they have more idea of the limitations of their opponents weapons

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

my 2 cents. more range time, live fire drills, advanced patroling, more night range time and weapon system drills.

@Justin-yt7pi

2 жыл бұрын

I actually scared of that option

@17sapun

2 жыл бұрын

"maybe familiarization with soviet bloc weapons so they have more idea of the limitations of their opponents weapons" maybe more importantly their capabilities

@Brecconable

2 жыл бұрын

@@17sapun Beat me to it. Like comparing an M-40 to an SVD. I'd go further, I'd start having more exchange programs and cross-training with foreign units. But also open the door for junior enlisted ranks to be part of the personnel exchange and not just officers and SNCOs, for example posting recon troops from 10th Mountain Division to the Canadian Rangers or the Royal Marines Mountain and Arctic Warfare Cadre or pilots from 160th Spec Ops Aviation Regiment cross-training with 7 Squadron RAF.

When I went though basic in the Canadian military, drill, drill and more drill you did basic foot drill and marching the first week and rifle drill and marching the second week, PT in the morning. No shark attack but total control by the NCOs, by the end of week week one we all knew what was required of us. I'm a big believer in Drill later on taught drill. A couple of years ago I was at Micky's Ds and a voice called out my Rank Name I immediately came to attention and said sir and I had been out of the service for over 20 years, it was a former Coy 2IC.

Day Zero is the first 72 hours in basic training that's when they'll do the shark attack relentlessly towards those that precieve as weak to break them down and build them as soldiers or figure out the weak links. That's a must have its necessary and your enemies would only love for us to be weak. That's a can't have. They need to bring back shark attacks.

I went through Naval Bt in 2008. The shark attack started the moment we got off the bus, it ended the day you graduated, good times.

I think team building exercises are the greatest way to improve and prepare soldiers for battle. Once they all feel that "we're all part of something greater than ourselves" you can begin to have a lot more psysical training as well as weapon training.

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

oh, yes i love the concept but not day 1 of boot camp. baby steps and team building is after they learn to crawl. most of these men are barely 18. selflessness is important in training. big fan of team building done right. i could think of worse new directions the Army went.

I've never heard any one in the army brag about how easy their training was. people want a challenge. by looking at this i'm glad i went through when i did.

@macalpha4099

2 жыл бұрын

this looks easier than freshman football practice

I think adding the shark attack to this operation would actually be the best thing cause it just adds another level of stress for the new recruits. Anything that builds a team dynamic in a military organization is a good thing.

More weight training including bench press. Works magic for pushups improvement on PT test grades. Conquering PT is 90% of the battle in army and perhaps marine basic training.

Nothing about the new ARMY is terrifying.

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

oh, i can see a few things. in particular the push to over think training and dump things like the shark attack.

@menopillion9853

2 жыл бұрын

Except being the rare individual who is taking it seriously. Then you should be terrified of the slack you have to pick up.

@bomcstoots1

2 жыл бұрын

Facts lmao. Made the walls sweat 9 years ago

When I got new guys in my unit, they lacked heavily on discipline. They would be sitting down talking to NCOs, not addressing them by their rank, not going to parade rest, ext. Clearly this new basic training is failing.

@21COKEISIT

2 жыл бұрын

Nick256 the first and last words out of your filfy sewers of a mouth was ALWAYS "sir"

@johnwig285

2 жыл бұрын

For the rank part, i fail to see how that's a discipline issue or do you have a certain kind of complex for ur rank to be acknowledged? I mean back in Fallujah, did I see my brothers as their rank or as comrades?

Anything that the Armed forces can do to stop those poor kids from panicking and getting themselves or others killed is #1

Overweight civvy here. A history lesson on warfare, and a survival exercise akin to spartan training. You have 48 hours to get to an extraction zone a set distance away, you have a knife and the clothes on your back. every gets there or everyone fails. Leaving the training area constitutes failure as a group. If you cause the group to fail, you will be individually weeded out and sent to a new training group. 3 Failures constitutes a wipe from the program, and a failure to commit to teamwork, and achieve basic goals on your permanent record of employment. No drill, half way through your training in B.C. As a mid term test of your applied use of skills. Set cameras in the training zone, and use drones. then dissect what they did right and wrong, viciously. Also yes bring back the shark attack.

When I did my basic in the Late 80's, there was one L/Cpl that was known to all the recruits. He was a total prick and milked his power for all that it was worth. We all felt sorry for the guys in his platoon. It didn't make them the best platoon. It didn't make them better soldiers. But he did make them hate him, deeply. Guys like that get fragged on the first day of real combat.

@JoshuaLandergren-kr9rz

6 ай бұрын

Nobody's gonna go in harms way to pull him to safety

When I was a squad leader and platoon Sargeant I used to tell my privates to forget what they were taught at Fort Benning. My job was to teach them how to survive and protect the man beside them. Rangers lead the way

@BackFromTheRoad

Жыл бұрын

And this is the reality. You’ll learn how to stand in formation and have some military bearing at Fort Benning. It’s your unit that turns you into a useful soldier. I was a medic so I went through regular basic at Benning and then AIT at Fort Sam. I could confidently do my job at the end of training but I learned 90% of my skill set in unit.

When I went through basic training in 2006 at Fort Knox, my class was given only 9 weeks to train. The class after us had 12 weeks. My DS had told my mother at that time at family day is that he wished he had more time to train my class. We all know DS will not acknowledge openly about which trainee was right about something, but he did agree that more time was better to have than what we got. Just more time training is what everyone deserves just to get a higher chance to survive a combat environment.

Feeding the alligator behind chow hall, playing with the crabs and fleas. Burying the said flea. Guarding the company's chrome domes while they eat, and you go without. Wake up the drunk ass DI at 4 am using boot on hatch method.

I served 24 years and retired in 2000 from the 82nd Airborne Division. To this day I remember SFC Wallace; my drill sergeant who got on my face and turned me from a street punk into an American warrior. This new nonsense will never work at producing the kind of soldiers and marines our country needs to fight and win wars. The sad thing is that we will only learn how ineffective this new training is when we start getting our asses kicked in the battle field. “Bring back the shark attack” and the awesome training that produced the best we ever had and stop listening to stupid politicians talk about stuff they know nothing about.

@rappingforjesus9630

2 жыл бұрын

Wow

@rappingforjesus9630

2 жыл бұрын

We need to get more people like sgt Hartman

@timrobertson4899

2 жыл бұрын

Yet you continue to start wars for reasons you know nothing about. Which is for profitable gain.

@maddmoxx6414

2 жыл бұрын

I as well remember the names of all my Drill Sergeants, Taylor, Robbins, Knapp, and 1SG Sharch... Sharch was the antichrist, that sob was possessed his eyes used to roll into the back of his head when yelling at you. Scared my ass into submission.... Funny thing is I only served with them for a small fraction of the all the years served, can remember their names but barely anyone else's I served with.

@johnedwards2759

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is not EVERYONE who goes into the military is a STREET PUNK who needs to be broken. I was a straight A student who took calculus and physics in high school. All the yelling did was made me HATE the Army.

I am so Glad I did my Basic Training and AIT in 97. It was hell on earth none of this Politically Correctness stuff. My Drill Sergeant were all Combat Veterans of the Gulf War.

Def missed this training by a mark but I was damn proud of my platoon in basic. Haha. We were the only ones in the company to never change PL/PS and SQL roles.

Another great video

About the only good thing you get out of this being done on day 1 after receiving (BTW how long is receiving for the US Army these days?) is that the Drill Sergeants can identify potential leaders within the platoon who can/will take charge during stressful situations.

@JamesonsTravels

2 жыл бұрын

i can see that. pick the guide and squad leaders. i dont think its a day 1 event. shark attack for a few weeks to get them listening and starting a bit of military bearing then push for group events.

@trebochet

2 жыл бұрын

You either , lead foliow or get out of the way . “Idiocrazy 101”

@samkesler218

2 жыл бұрын

reception at ft benning for me was about 8 days, but at the other bct locations they are three to four days

@jamesdouglas6977

2 жыл бұрын

@@samkesler218 it was 4 days for me at MCRD San Diego back in 1997.

@seattlesix9953

2 жыл бұрын

Tend to concur as the DS can get eyes on the rocks as well as the potentials. Keep the event short and emphasize PT since TRADOC has already declared this shortfall to Recruiting Command.

I went to Marine bootcamp in 1993 and served for 10 years active duty. I got to see the crucible Marines come in and what I learned from them was, the crucible was kind of stupid. Everything they did in the crucible was something we did in '93, between bootcamp and MCT, but they spent less time doing drill. So crucible Marines had two deficiencies that I could see. They were told that they were the baddest Marines the Corps ever produced and they believed it, which I think may have played a part in them being less respectful towards their seniors. And the other thing being , less time in drill where drill was the number one discipline builder. Suddenly I am dealing with Marines that, when I give them an order to do something they are trying to ask me why, and I was a POG so it wasn't like I was ever asking anyone to do anything dangerous or difficult or anything I hadn't already done myself. So, the two most important things are, don't tell recruits they are anything special and they should get in as much drill time as they can.

@imperfect-creations.

2 жыл бұрын

Well said sir .

@bruhholmes

2 жыл бұрын

- Bring back shark week - & having 72-hour capture the flag style games, either hand to hand or airsoft/paintball I think would be a big help. (I'm kinda iffy on the idea of "simunition" the difference in the speed of projectiles - learning to lead shots or react/dodge shot in unnatural ways) Doing extended training events that are team based, in harsh conditions, against people who have seen combat experience; preferably before recruits start learning tactics so they can understand the difference between a trained & untrained soldier, as well as get a tactile sense of how to behave in that kind of environment. As somebody who's looking to join I'm pretty upset about the changes in training & how well equipped certain unstable regions overseas are now. Terrorists with nightvison Vs COD junkies & McCasualties. _____ I'm hoping if I aim for the Ranger battalion I won't be stuck with a bunch of randoms that might get me killed, know if there's any validity to this idea? My grandfather & father served, now looking at the state of things I'm a little pissed

@noneya9784

Жыл бұрын

I can tell you 3rd battalion definitely does that.

@michaelkneringer3194

10 ай бұрын

Your full of it. And didn't 'learn' anything.

8 years in the Corps, here. Semper Fi. Seeing the whole mask thing in bootcamp videos..lol. blows my mind.

"it was a very different army, you had guys coming from prison and the drill sgts needed to assert that dominance"...as a Vietnam era U.S. Marine vet. I can tell you that is complete B.S., my platoon at Parris Island and my ITR battalion at Gieger were a bunch of very disciplined, squared away, lean mean kids but we got stress thrown at us everyday to prepare for life in combat.

@briang.7206

Жыл бұрын

No one wants to join today some branches are offering 10 or 15 $thousand dollars to enlist. And what I see of the Navy I wouldn't join again either. Look at the conditions on the USS Washington..its dirty..broken toilets and all you get to eat at meal time is a bowl.of cereal. I was on a 30yr old ship and we kept it running in tip top condition.

@theyoungfool.1895

Жыл бұрын

Army always had safety standards and a general standard to up hold, so to trust convicts with gear would be incredibly desperate and stupid looking for that to be signed off and their’d have to be uproar being lumped together with criminals from everyone. That story has always been a myth never tested.

I started losing respect for today's way of doing things in the army when soldiers started getting medals for using an Xbox controller the entire time and still dunno how a rifle operates 😑

NCOs are leaving the Army because it's impossible to instill good order and discipline into a formation when leadership cares more about feelings than lethality. My two cents.

@moonboy2941

2 жыл бұрын

NCOs are leaving because they don't want to get killed in ukraine over anal sex and feminism.

Parris Island 1981. 3rd RTC, Platoon 3089. Extremely similar to the basic training in Full Metal Jacket. Most DIs were Vietnam vets. A shark attack was a daily ritual. It becomes funny after the 3rd week.

The shark attack was horrible when it was happening, but looking back on it I kinda think it was funny now....I was fat when I went in 1996.. I could always do alot of push-ups from day 1 I had tremendous upper body strength but I couldn't run for nothing so. Drill sgt made me run everywhere we went I joined at 245 lbs by the end of basic i was 185

Compared to when I went thru at the start of the OIF/OEF war.. this is still way too easy. Hard living creates hard soldiers. It's supposed to be as hard and painful as possible to help them survive. We always were told the more you swear here, the less you bleed in a fight. It was definitely true. And we didn't get to use fancy optics until way later. We were trained to accurately engage a man size target at 300m with iron sights. Your suppose to be hard, hungry, angry. not this soyboy bullshit you see here. This is a giant game of grabass

@brokenfuzzy4427

2 жыл бұрын

CCO still comes way after iron sights. Only irons count towards graduation. I don’t know about other forts, but Sill in winter was a horror show. They did not go easy on us unless fingers were falling off. It’s not nearly as soft as they portray it. Nobody in their right mind would enlist if they showed the full BCT experience.

@richreaychowderclapback4866

2 жыл бұрын

Facts qual, 1st time go ironsights 300m Ol L wood in the snow ENGR's Lead the way hooah

@danbrown3325

2 жыл бұрын

@@brokenfuzzy4427 Yes, sir. Trained in iron sights from week 1 until qualification, and the record on my ERB is my iron sights score. This was 2021 It's not that BCT has become easy: it that if you don't apply yourself, the Drills are almost beholden to let you be piss poor and still graduate you. I saw the majority of trainees work hard, take things seriously and rush to complete the task with just the threat of yelling and corrective training -- but the shitbags could run their mouth or half ass, and the Drills (and us fellow trainees) had to play nice. That's the real problem

@bradchoi662

2 жыл бұрын

Back in my day, I had to put my head on the floor for over 1 minute and was kicked by my corporal. Bootcamp doesn't need to be yelled hard, hungry, and that's not what makes a soldier strong. disciplined, organised and teamwork missions etc. these are the core value that we should prioritise in the BootCamp,

@williamwaters6803

2 жыл бұрын

@@brokenfuzzy4427 still a joke compared to the good days. Stress cards are for failures

I remember leaving Fort Benning in 1982 after going through advance infantry training and it was complete hell no BS . Also I remember sitting at the airport waiting to go home on leave before I got shipped off to Germany , and I started talking to 2 Marines who just got out of basic training from Parris island and I remember them telling me like it was yesterday, that it was the worst thing that they ever experienced, but I’ll tell you one thing it made me a better man and person today also them . The young men now have no idea what it was really like back then things have changed a lot in the military .

@johnhumphrey9953

2 жыл бұрын

Harmony Church 1987-1988, the good old days. RIP Harmony Church.

@sgtdedhed

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnhumphrey9953 graduated from sand hill in 88. One shot, one kill. Not sure what they train now...

@Sandhill1988

2 жыл бұрын

Sand hill Bravo 2nd of the 54th 88-89 warlords.

@marcuspayne9744

2 жыл бұрын

Graduated OSUT Sand Hill in 84 then off to Airborne School then to Bragg, and later back to Benning for Pathfinder School. Back then Benning was a Top notch hell hole. Till this day cherished my time there.

Well said! The old way worked and is still needed!

I was placed in a platoon with no DI. We got a Staff Sargent who was a short Timer. Our final week, he bought the beer.