Ned saved my great grandfather from drowning as a boy. The green silk sash presented to him by the Shelton family as a reward was removed/stolen by the doctor while treating his wounds after his capture. Ned would often exchange horses for a fresh mount from family’s horse paddock, no one was ever concerned and the horses were always swapped back at a later date.

@bradwilliams7212

Ай бұрын

Ned Kelly did not save Richard Shelton from Hughes Creek at Avenel. Fiction made up in 1929 by a pro Kelly author.

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 go to hell!

@davidharrison1572

Ай бұрын

A story that has been handed down is that my family in Avinel helped Ned and the boys to across hughes creek. My Irish family built the Royal Mail Hotel in the 1850s The some hotel the Shelton's owned. My G.G.G.Great grandad built it and held the license and Cob&Co stop.. Hate the gang or not they are still legends

Most people aren't aware that when Ned was 11 years old, he saved a 6 year old boy who was drowning. Ned was presented with a green silk sash for his bravery. He was wearing it around his waist during the Glenrowan siege and his arrest. The boys name was Richard Shelton. I worked with his great-great (+ another great?) grandson, who told me that at all of their large Shelton family gatherings they raise a 'Toast to Ned' because if he hadn't saved Richards life, none of them would have ever been born. And before l'm accused of being a Kelly fan boy, remember that l'm only sharing a little known fact about his younger years that l thought some people might like to know.

@bradwilliams7212

Ай бұрын

Ned Kelly NEVER saved Richard Shelton from a flooded creek in Avenel. Fiction made up by a pro Kelly author in 1929. Fictitious rot. He did not receive a green sash from the Shelton family. Again, made up fiction.

@mgreenesco9955

Ай бұрын

​@@bradwilliams7212have you got some sand in your fanny?

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 Sour grapes.

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 Read it and weep!

@michaelcroft813

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 Shelton was my great grandfather, the story is true.

Australia needs more Neds, especially these days.

@rosapane5576

Ай бұрын

I agree

Great presentation , something all Victorians should view - Congratulations Michelle & John & well done 🙏

@VictorianHistoryAdventures

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, much appreciated 🙂 - Michelle

Great video! It was a pleasure to meet you both, Michelle and John last Monday on the Murder Site tour. Yes, I have subscribed. :) Cheers Robert

@VictorianHistoryAdventures

2 ай бұрын

Wasn’t that a brilliant tour! Was great to meet you too 🙂 cheers! Michelle

Hi John ..very interesting video ..enjoyed that .

There are so many mysteries and missing artefacts from the Kelly Outbreak, the Melbourne Gaol E.K. headstone is just another of them. If in fact the E.K. initials stood for Edward Kelly, as there are some who claim that it may have been instead the initials of executed murderer Ernest Knox, who was hanged 14 years after Ned Kelly.

@rhondanankivell4647

Ай бұрын

There will be a date on it to tell them apart, my Great Grandfather Joseph Pfeffer, his stone is in the Brighton wall "JV 29.4.12"

Very good presentation. Thank you!

They’ll need the police down at Brighton now to control the crowds! Tomorrow’s headline - ‘Brighton walls mysteriously dug up overnight’. Great research, story and presentation. Congratulations.

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

Well somebody should put a few fake stones in the wall before they get there!

Great Stuff Michelle & Ross. Looking forward to more adventures!

Another great story, I will start looking on my next trip to Melbourne. Thanks Michelle and John.

Wow - that's just amazing - great research and information - thanks :-)

Absolutely fascinating channel, incredible to see history come to life in our own backyard. Thanks for your in depth research. Subscribed!

@VictorianHistoryAdventures

20 күн бұрын

Thank you, glad you are enjoying the videos 🙂 - Michelle

Well presented, and very interesting.

Oh my this is bloody interesting.. What a great video. Just sent this to a friend who lives in Brighton.. This is amazing. Thanks for all the research!

@VictorianHistoryAdventures

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing, glad you enjoyed the video! 🙂 - Michelle

@i_dig_it_melbourne

3 ай бұрын

@VictorianHistoryAdventures my friend provided a plausible explanation on the Ned Kelly blue stone .That the stone was turned inwards so that it would never be found..Speculation of course.

@VictorianHistoryAdventures

3 ай бұрын

@@i_dig_it_melbourne yes, that could very well be the case! 🙂 Cheers - Michelle

This is the history I wish they taught in school. Aside from a fairly basic introduction when I was in year 4 in 1988, and despite taking history for all of high school, and as interested in Australian history, I don’t think we even mentioned Ned Kelly, apart from in an English class with an old bushy teacher we had once a week for poetry, he referenced him and did some Australian poems about Ned.

I must admit I am always amazed by how apathetic Australians are when it comes to preserving our heritage and given the current political climate it will only get worse. Well done it’s important that people like yourselves continue to tell these stories

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

Very much like the English where their History is Mythology unless you are part of the Monarchy, Robin hood and King Arther for example, there is no way of knowing the true stories behind these names, that's the way we are heading, the establishment are presenting lies to obscure the truth to save face.

I wonder if it’s not at Brighton . As you’d think it would have been seen at some stage when the sand has been low . So possibly taken as a souvenir when the blocks were removed from the Gaol

Great Story, Thank You!

Nice find you two. Great vid.

Amazing video, soooo very interesting. I have always loved history.

My brother lives in Brighton, I'll get him to look for mine! (my name's John Wilson) Thanks for posting this team, another interesting Victorian story, I'm living overseas now and really enjoy them.

Great work...really interesting.

thank you. I didn't know this about the stones a brighton beach

Keep up the good work I love what you do as I love australian history and Ned Kelly. I'm from perth I'm Steve keep it up

I love it when you stubble across new and interesting channels like this one. Well done guys. Got a like and sub from me 👍

@VictorianHistoryAdventures

20 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙂

Very interesting indeed 👍 That's something to look out for

This is crazy I walked the wall so many times and never new the history of that wall or the stone it made of 🤯🤯🤯🤯

Awesome stuff, We subscribed watching 👀 from Cradle Mountain ⛰️ Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺 🤝🇦🇺🦘🦘🏔🏔😎🍻🍻

Criminals with death sentences executed in prison were buried in unmarked graves with no headstone

@philipdenner8504

Ай бұрын

As they should be.

Fascinating!

I remember reading about him when I was younger. But just started watching videos about him. He was definitely a handsome looking man. In my opinion. 😉I recently watched a video about how many times his grave was moved and that he was eventually given back to the family and is unmarked to let him rest in peace.

🇦🇺 needs 100 Ned Kellys, TODAY

The Kelly family lived on acreage in Avenel south of Hughes Creek stone bridge. I always wander if they ever lived on my place, before they went further north

Ned was trying to start a civil war against the Crown, the powers that be didn't want to promote the idea. My great great Grandfather was sir Redmond Barry,i have an uncle who is the grandson of trooper Fitzpatrick.

Wonderful information about grave markers.ABeautiful place to rest on Australia's sandy beaches.If you .Look in the sand along the beaches you might be lucky to find remnant s of indigenous Australians tools for opening shells for a once summer feast.

He wasn't hung. He was hanged. Paintings are hung.

Awesome story. Hope one day Ned's head Stone will be found. Whatever history says about the Kelly family, its history that needs to be remembered for the hard times back in early Australia. Im a 65 year old Biker & Ned & his crew have always been my hero's. ❤

@bradwilliams7212

3 ай бұрын

Why would you refer to a murderer as a hero? Strange attitude.

@boblouden6663

Ай бұрын

I hope it's never found and the murderer is forgotten.

@nearlythere1957

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 your a strange human .

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 I'd say you know very little about Ned's story, you should do some research and reevaluate your ideas in relation to the concept of murder as opposed to self defense.

@bradwilliams7212

Ай бұрын

@gogogeedus I am legally trained and know the true story very well. Ned Kelly murdered Lonigan, Scanlan and Kennedy and none of those officers had a weapon in hand. You have no idea.

Amazing that we can keep track of the area around SE NSW & NE VIC along the Murray River and All those Towns Like Beechworth, Wangaratta, Albury/Wodonga Tocuhumail,Swan hill,Euroa, that the Kelly Gang was able to hide and outwite the Victorian and New South Wales Police forces,but yet we aren't able to recover his Skull but at least we were able to recover the rest of his Body and repatriate to a proper Burial Spot.

l tend to think theres more to his story than we know

The last old newspaper I have is the Williamstown Chronicle, Saturday February 19th 1887.

So interesting

Great video, will follow the channel for more.

Hi I'm from Ireland ned Kelly's family were Irish thank you for making this about ned your great great grandfather deserves a mention. Thanks to the person who left the comment that ned wasn't a tyrant.

@bradwilliams7212

Ай бұрын

Ned Kelly was a vicious murdering swine.

@biggerthebetter

Ай бұрын

Learn his history the truth.brad😊

@bradwilliams7212

Ай бұрын

@@biggerthebetter I full know the history. You have no idea

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 you're a snake.

@johnblyth9787

Ай бұрын

Interestingly my brother has done a deep dive into our family tree. He says we are decendants of the Kelly's .

I have always been interested in the life and times of Ned Kelly , so much so that I called the house I built approximately 40 years ago Glenrowan ( the place that Ned was born) I mounted a brass plate bearing that name at the front door. My father all those years ago carved me a timber panel depicting the house that Ned grew up in and his guns , which still hangs in my present house, I also have a limited edition framed pic depicting Ned’s life and a statue of Ned in his full armour .

@bradwilliams7212

Ай бұрын

Ned Kelly was not born at Glenrowan. Your knowledge of Ned Kelly appears to be inadequate.

@johnstein948

Ай бұрын

My memory failed me again😂that should have read at Glenrowan Inn where the Kelly gang shot out was ..

@nearlythere1957

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 look its brad williams again, pops up everywhere there is a ned kelly post.

God bless Ned Kelly

Excellent work🙈🙉🙊

I never knew the blue stone with names on it at Brighton

he is a relative on my mums side she showed me in her family history book

@billybluerocket

Ай бұрын

It was always rumored in our family there was a connection from my mums side. An older relative once told me my granddads grandad was possibly a brother of Ned's dad.

@patriciapitt4228

Ай бұрын

I met Ned Kelly, who lives up on the Tablelands he has the full armour of the Ned Kelly you are talking about at his front door ,it was good to hear your story ,as what we heard Ned did a lot to help the poor just a crying shame others didn't think so Many Thanks *.

Always was a favourite saying such as life 🤘💯👁❗️⭐️🇦🇺⭐️🇦🇺⭐️🇦🇺👍

Most prisons never had any markers for the interred inmates.

Someone would have stolen it long before now if it was there. Isn’t his skull also missing? I might be misremembering the story, but I was sure I heard that only a few years ago.

@AW-pz3qc

Ай бұрын

If you are misremembering, then I am too because I've heard that too.

@thesausage351

Ай бұрын

@@AW-pz3qc cheers, good to have some reassurance there’s two of us that could be wrong lol.

The mentioned Joseph Pfeffer was my great Grandfather will have to take a shovel & go for a dig, I have a photo of the stone some took in 2012 100 years after he was Hung.

If they do any earth or sand works along that wall would be worth a look then.

wow brighton is only 10 mins from my house

Going to camp at Stringybark creek next week. No phone reception, the police will not visit.😅

Was there not one of the postcards the four riders of Kerry(copyright) Sydney landscape postcard photographer are there might have been one of the postcard in Australia at the time as coming from a photographer's career public photographers and police department to absolutely different areas and off the subject of Ned Kelly didn't mad Dog Morgan also have a photographer's run in too🧐🤔📸🖼️🎞️🎨🖌️🍺🍻

@VictorianHistoryAdventures

Ай бұрын

Yes there is the Kerry photo and one of Ned cutting timber but in both cases there is doubt that they are genuine - John

@user-dn7yw2he2m

Ай бұрын

@@VictorianHistoryAdventures yeah great thanks for that I like to think on the wood shopping oww the arts secrets of the trades of photography🍺🍻📸🎞️🖼️🖌️🎨💯❤️‍🔥

What's an 'original copy' ?

@spacemanOCE

16 күн бұрын

An original photo, developed by chemical process from the original positive/negative, usually by the original photographer. So basically not a reproduction/scan.

Wow, interesting story and interesting “comments”………

One thing's for sure, it's like a battlefield in the comments here with all the crap people are flinging. So watch out if you dare venture into it. But yes, ned was a criminal, and ended up gaining the status that he has, for the reasons he has. Whatever your opinion on him, he sure has become a part of australian history, for better or for worse.

Sorry but I can't listen to her after 1min, please speak normally.

@Kevin-oh2je

13 күн бұрын

Unbelievable!! Good on ya! ☘️♥️🇮🇪

How did your father lose his arms?

Thank you for the amazing history lesson, what a beautiful young lady aswell 😊

Neddie was a man of Honour .

@user-fb7qu8lu7s

Ай бұрын

No he Wasn’t………and He and his gang frequently robbed Chinese on their way to the Gold Fields , but never turned up at Court to identify them, they were Bandits, Pure and Simple.

Ned Kelly was a crook plain and simple, if he didn’t use armour he would only be a footnote in history.

@davidmackieson4609

2 ай бұрын

THATS WHY HIS NAME WAS CLEARED CAUSE HE'S A CROOK PLAIN AN SIMPLE

@bradwilliams7212

Ай бұрын

@@davidmackieson4609 Dumb.

@boblouden6663

Ай бұрын

​@@davidmackieson4609bullshit mate utter bullshit

@nearlythere1957

Ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 dumb.

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

Well all the knights of olde should be famous and be in the first feature Movie ever made but no, that honor was bestowed upon our boy Ned, he is the most famous knight of all.

the police stole Ned's horses he wanted his horses back learn the truth

Lets all remember. Ned Kelly thief and a murderer.

@Aaron_Hanson

Ай бұрын

You spelt iconic folk hero wrong.

@boblouden6663

Ай бұрын

@@Aaron_Hanson na mate he was nothing more than a thief a drunkard and a murderer. Then again you probably think captain Cook discovered Australia.

@mgreenesco9955

Ай бұрын

​@@boblouden6663I suspect if you and your family were treated (abused) by the vic police and gov that you might feel differently and have some grievences to correct.

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

We'll never forget Ned, I guess that's your problem.

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

@@boblouden6663 We all know the Chinese did it but they didn't want to eat dust so they cleared out.

Ah yes Ned. Murderer, Thief, Standover man. The Apple of his mother’s eye.

@romemancer7905

Ай бұрын

Your also describing those in Government...!

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

and don't forget fashion designer.

Talk about click bait. What a waste of time

Ned wasn't the fiend in this story tyranny was excpecially if you were Irish Catholics

@bradwilliams7212

3 ай бұрын

Ned Kelly was a vicious, murdering scumbag. He always stated he was Australian and stole from poor Irish Catholics.

@mondomacabromajor5731

3 ай бұрын

If Ned Kelly was a "vicious, murdering scumbag" like a lot of these modern social justice warriors proclaim - why did Ned Kelly have hundreds of Sympathisers across North East Victoria, why did the Kelly Gang remain at large for 18 months with a £8000 reward, and why did 30,000 (some say up to 60,000) people sign a petition asking for a reprieve? These comments from biased 'law enforcement officers' are without any base in reality. I recommend 'The Kelly Outbreak 1878-1880: The geographical dimension of social banditry' by John McQuilton - which goes into great detail about the tyranny that poor impoverished Selectors like the Kelly, Quinn and Lloyd families were put through by the landed gentry Squattocracy and a brutal penal system driven government.

@davidmacfarlane9943

3 ай бұрын

@@mondomacabromajor5731 OH Stuart I thought you were interested in facts? The petition is still there and you can count the signatures on it if you could be bothered - its around 30,00. And they signed it because they were opposed to capital punishment which is why they sought a reprieve ratter than an exoneration or a new trial. They just wanted him to be locked up for ever. I thought you would have known that Gaunson, who launched the petition was a famous anti-capital punishment crusader. As for nobody collecting the reward : in such a small community where there wouldnt have been any certainty of secrecy about who claimed the reward, who would want to risk the wrath of a known brutal mass police killer who family were known to be violent, drunk, arsonists rapists and horse mutilators? And that book you recommend? Its 45 years old and way out of date….so I guess that explains why your views are out of date too… Try reading some new modern research based stuff…anything by Dr Stuart Dawson and of course my namesakes book, the Kelly Gang Unmasked.

@bradwilliams7212

3 ай бұрын

@@mondomacabromajor5731 Your suggestion that Ned Kelly had hundreds of sympathisers is fictitious rubbish. One editorial, written in Wangaratta in 1878, claimed his supporters were 125, in a population of 14,500. You have been reading Ian Jones rubbish. The reason they remained at large with the £8,000 reward was because the Kelly mob had cowed the population into silence. They feared being murdered by the thugs that the Kelly mob were. John McQuilton was a mad Kelly fan, and he wrote a load of fictitious nonsense. The Royal Commission of 1881 found no tyranny. If they could not find tyranny, how come John McQuilton could find some. In reality, he just made it up. The Kelly's, Lloyd's and Quinn's were well known criminal families. The squatters had all but disappeared from the Greta, Moyhu, Benalla district when Kelly was at the peak of his thieving, often taking poor settlers only working horses, effectively sending them bankrupt. If the penal system was brutal, as you claim, show us some examples?

@mondomacabromajor5731

3 ай бұрын

@@bradwilliams7212 Your painfully pathetic attempt to discount the amount of sympathisers and Petition signatures just illustrates your continued blind bigotry. Any argument you propose to explain why no one attempted to take out the £8000 reward on the Kelly Gang, falls flat on its face with any easy research. Only the middle and upperclass Protestant Squatters and landed gentry feared the Kelly's and their relatives, many of the North East Victorian Selectors were sympathisers and aided the Gang over the 18 months they were on the run. You and DEE cannot explain away the historical facts with the 'arguments' made by Dawson and his ilk. 'The Kelly Outbreak 1878-1880: The geographical dimension of social banditry' by John McQuilton, remains a great book on the subject and a great record of the time, regardless of your flippant comical remarks. Why for at least a century after convict transportation ended in 1868, did the Australian colonies try to hide their founding legacy? It is well known that the Colonies of Australia used a severe punitive system where cruelty and deprivation prevailed, ramped up deliberately to give the colonies a fearsome reputation as a place of terror for those contemplating crime. The resulting injustices, the struggle between poor rural Irish Catholics and the repressive British Protestant ruling class, are clear and profound for any one bothered to research beyond a few biased modern revisionist authors. Judging the behaviour of historical people through the standards of today is nothing more than modern social justice prejudice and a distortion of history.

I’ve never understood the fascination with this chicken rustler.

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

I'm sure this sort of stuff happens very often where you come from. every bush ranger has to start somewhere and Ned was fortunate to have lots of motivation to start a carrier in that field at a very young age.

@vangard3415

Ай бұрын

the fascination with ned is he an his family were treated like shit to the point he couldn't take it anymore from those inbred cops .p

Can we have a human voice not AI

Was this not a myth?

@FirmNo

Ай бұрын

Are you joking?

@Aaron_Hanson

Ай бұрын

How dare you! 😳🤨

@rhondanankivell4647

Ай бұрын

I take it you're NOT Australian

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

Ned's story and the Kelly gang was the first movie, that's how important this story is world wide.

@patriciapitt4228

Ай бұрын

That's just blowing my thoughts! Here I was thinking everyone knew about Ned Kelly,and there's Kelly families all around Australia to remind us of Ned, it's like the wedding vow (for Good or for Bad )Cheers All ***.

Is the female in the video or AI?

@Aaron_Hanson

Ай бұрын

Michelle is the woman in the video and narrating.

@NOGOODHOODnz

Ай бұрын

@@Aaron_Hanson She talks and walks like something Elon Musk has made.

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

I think she does a great job, she is having a go so give her a break, or go watch some fakes on TV.

@patriciapitt4228

Ай бұрын

Everyone loves a winger 😅

Ned Kelly was just another convict

@romemancer7905

Ай бұрын

Its a shame Australians are so ignorant to the truth...Especially Rural Victorians in the north of the state ! Backward attitudes like you would not believe...

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

He didn't come to Australia as a convict, he was born here.

@blastermaster2383

Ай бұрын

@@gogogeedusThat’s right . He was born here long after convicts arrived .

Ned was NO Hero, just brought up in a Criminal Family. …My Family were also Irish Immigrants, and also from Tipperary, just like the Kelly’s…………..and lived about 10km down the road from the Kelly’s, the only difference was that my family weren’t Criminals…….He was No Freedom Fighter.

@Jeff-ty4oi

Ай бұрын

So very true I honestly cannot believe people idolise a murderer that's all he was a criminal and killer and yet he looked at as a hero he was an outlaw nothing more a pure criminal and we are led to believe he is a hero..

@user-ef4jj7nr1z

Ай бұрын

No, he wasn’t he became who legend said he was because of the rape of his sister by a policeman

@Jeff-ty4oi

Ай бұрын

@@user-ef4jj7nr1z there was zero evidence his sister was raped by a policeman, he was always a criminal he stole horses robbed banks and killed innocent people but people like you fail to see those things only what you want to believe..

@MuffinTheCat2023

18 күн бұрын

Nah Ned was the grand and great and he was put through some crap and held up for a while being a bush ranger. And the history is great.

@Kevin-oh2je

13 күн бұрын

user-fb7qu8lu7s- Get back in your box you IGNORAMUS

YET DIDN'T MENTION THAT IN THE END THAT HIS NAMED WAS CLEARED OF ALL AN ANY WRONG DOING

@bradwilliams7212

2 ай бұрын

GARBAGE comment.

@20bluelilies

Ай бұрын

Because it never was? Whatever any of us might feel about the fairness or lack thereof of his sentencing, he broke the law.

@boblouden6663

Ай бұрын

Bullshit mate utter bullshit.

@AndrewDean-rt8cv

Ай бұрын

The law was very corrupt back then

@bradwilliams7212

Ай бұрын

@@AndrewDean-rt8cv If you are claiming the law was corrupt, let's see some evidence?

I dont believe Ned Kelly 2as has bad has the police made out, i yhink the police hounded ned they set up ned and family the my personal opinion

ned was not a criminal the police were the real criminals and they still are today ned died a true hero

How Un-Australian talking about Ned Kelly using a computer voice how disgusting

@VictorianHistoryAdventures

Ай бұрын

Sad and Un-Australian that you can't tell the difference between a computer voice and a real one. John

@thesausage351

Ай бұрын

Do you not see the lady with red hair talking? And how her lips match up with the words being said? And how the voice is exactly the same when she is on screen and when she is not? It’s called a voice over mate.

@thesausage351

Ай бұрын

@@VictorianHistoryAdventuresalways got to be one mate. And of course it makes total sense that you would use a computer voice and have your host mime the script.

@James-kv6kb

Ай бұрын

@@VictorianHistoryAdventures so you're saying I'm unable Australian because I can't tell the difference between a computer voice and yours what a wanker . The fact that I don't like artificial intelligence makes me more Australian I think

@OzzieJayne

Ай бұрын

@@VictorianHistoryAdventures Ignore the trolls; they pick a fight to then make it all about themselves, starve em of O2 before then. Block em.

Awful narration

@Aaron_Hanson

Ай бұрын

Better than AI narration you numpty 🙄

@MetalMania3DTV-TAS-AUS

Ай бұрын

Like all of us gotta start somewhere, congrats to them having a crack 😊

@gogogeedus

Ай бұрын

I recon it's great!

@Aaron_Hanson

Ай бұрын

I love how my encouraging comments are being deleted, negative comments remain and yet I’m still being notified for this comment thread 🤷‍♂️ My previous comment and another comment replying to my comment had mentioned the artificial component. Maybe that’s the reason?

Go Ned good on ya for standing up to those bastards that's why you are a legend 👏 🙌 not for being a crook for standing up for everyone 👏

One of them work in East Bendigo quarry I believe. This person was a Kelly who was believe dead in the fire. Stop make John work, he is to old for it. lol😂