Have you ever loved a villain more than the hero? Where are our Thanos and Joker fanboys?

@UndeadSteampunk

4 жыл бұрын

How are you doing @All Things DnD

@allthingsdnd

4 жыл бұрын

@@UndeadSteampunk Nice man, pretty stoked with work but I'm trying to keep up

@UndeadSteampunk

4 жыл бұрын

@@allthingsdnd that is always good to hear people doing good in this trying time. Btw I have been the highest rank in membership for a few weeks now glad my money is able to help some

@Solrex_the_Sun_King

4 жыл бұрын

I’m early!

@ezrafaulk3076

4 жыл бұрын

Each side pulled the opposite turn from each other; the heroes pulling a face-heel turn, and the villains pulling a heel-face turn. I LOVE the kind of story in which you're given a legit reason to side with the supposed "villains"; there aren't enough of those stories in my opinion.

Sounds like Solomon was actually the real hero. He never actually put any civillian lives at risk, but managed to reveal the real villains.

@MsKeylas

4 жыл бұрын

Same thought. Dok and Solomon were anti-heroes at worst.

@rararasputin8608

4 жыл бұрын

It'd be a stretch to say that he anticipated that Olympian would not detect the lemonade, but goddamn was Solomon a chad.

@MsKeylas

4 жыл бұрын

@@rararasputin8608 it wouldn't matter if Olympian detected or not. He made a fullproof trap

@M4niacks2

4 жыл бұрын

At this point this was probably the kind of player to meta-game so far up to think the toxin was there even if he can't detect it.

@twisoul

4 жыл бұрын

@@MsKeylas i agree with you for Olympian player had his head so fare up his rear and was probably thinking how in game he will torture and kill Solomon just because he can and will get away from it.

"How do you kill the unkillable man? You give him nothing to live for."

@mdbgamer556

4 жыл бұрын

That's so true it hurts...

@WorldWalker128

4 жыл бұрын

The dude was going full narcissist. His head was so far up his own arse I doubt he actually saw anything he was doing was wrong.

@justabraziliandragonborn3642

3 жыл бұрын

Or just throw the fucker in space until he stops thinking.

@lerombus6020

3 жыл бұрын

Just A Brazilian Dragonborn I’m sorry but... IS THAT A JOJOS REFERENCE???

@justabraziliandragonborn3642

3 жыл бұрын

@@lerombus6020 *YES!* It is!

"He told the DM to shut up..." Me Who Usually DMs: EXCUSE ME??!!

@HerpDerp

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a player telling me to shut up when I DM is the way for them to get instantly booted from my games.

@lordbiscuitthetossable5352

4 жыл бұрын

HerpDerp1909 in all fairness, the resolution to this one was pretty satisfying. I think by this point the DM wanted to let solumen achieve his revenge, then crush him. That being said, probably better to talk about things like people, but I guess interesting stories don’t spawn from that.

@alvarox951

4 жыл бұрын

that's an inmediatly rocks fall in most campaing

@josh4590

4 жыл бұрын

Anyone who tells me to STFU in my game can leave permanently.

@mattk6719

4 жыл бұрын

@@josh4590 The DM or ANY player for that matter... That kind of behavior don't fly.

So no one noticed the perfectly chosen name of Solomon... Solomon, the King of Israel. Was a fantastic Judge. With his wisdom he was able to pose a solution to two women arguing about whom the baby was born to. His solution was to cut the baby in two, and give each woman half. Only the true mother showed fear for the baby's life and begged the king to not and give the baby to the other woman. Of which King Solomon decreed the baby to be this woman's child. Solomon. A name connected with Wisdom, and Judgement.

@ImitationJesus

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Coon or both. Could very well be both.

@CellGames2006

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was probably the intent of making a stealthy character.

@themrcrow2901

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Perfect name for it

@apollyon1987

3 жыл бұрын

Tyler Coon might be named after the god

@robertlombardo8437

3 жыл бұрын

I see it wasn't just me who appreciated that. I think 'King Solomon' would have made a fair hero name, had he survived.

That moment when your superhero game suddenly turns into _The Boys._

@mascotvt

4 жыл бұрын

Alright, I need some context about this. Can you tell me more, I've been seeing it pop up in this comment section a lot and now I'm interested.

@drakeford4860

4 жыл бұрын

@@mascotvt It's a comic series recently adapted into a show on Amazon Prime. TL;DR: Heros are massive dicks hiding behind good PR, and a few (somewhat) regular Joes get together to take them down. Really great show. Would suggest giving it a watch.

@BJ-bc7os

3 жыл бұрын

@@mascotvt just watch it

@mascotvt

3 жыл бұрын

@@BJ-bc7os thanks for reminding me of it but I don't feel like going through amazon to watch it

@warlock1080

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing!!

Most powerful beings: Thanos Darkseid Superman Galactus S O L O M U N

@RagnarokAvatar

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot Dr. Manhattan

@unnamedx2

4 жыл бұрын

Reinhardt

@unnamedx2

4 жыл бұрын

Look it up

@DoomsdayR3sistance

4 жыл бұрын

Flandre Scarlet Saitama Gok.... shoot, my inner weeb is leaking out.

@McSenkel

4 жыл бұрын

And Squirrel Girl. She legit defeated Thanos at one point.

“A street-thug against a god.” Ah, but which is which?

@o__o.6212

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Olympian kills and robs people, and Solomon is a stealth god.

@thatonepersonyouwontremember

3 жыл бұрын

Who is the monster and who is the man?

@boxtank5288

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatonepersonyouwontremember Sing the Bells, Bells, Bells, Bells, Bells, Bells, The Bells of Notre Dame!

@codysonic1

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh good memories

@caesarsosa816

3 жыл бұрын

Solomon is the street-thug, Olympian is the god. It said that the street-thug beat the god in the title. (Yes I get that this was supposed to be an insult/compliment to the characters)

At first i thought that the players where role-playing this "Heroes" in that way on purpose, but they seem to actually believe that they were in the right, that they actually were acting like Heroes That's scary, but like the quote says, if you want to test a man's character, give him power

@bryanwoods3373

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I thought it was just RP until they got called out for torturing the villain. And spending an actual hour of play on throwing him around. It's the kind of situation I probably would have discussed ending the game just for the villain players not to leave out of anger. But I guess they had a plan and told the DM they wanted to continue.

@trevorhirsch6734

3 жыл бұрын

Right. Kind of turned out to be an interesting social experiment almost

@adamnakamura8003

3 жыл бұрын

Olympian had all the power in the world and he crumbled like a dry sand castle.

@jackbishop8610

3 жыл бұрын

These were probably edgy nihilists who think that that IS how heroes work because "the victor decides the story" and stupid crap like that.

@GiantProcrastiNation

3 жыл бұрын

Power Corrupts, Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely

I love Megamind. This has the same premise: good guys and bad guys swap places. Except this time, it wasn't planned. And holy shit, I love this. Dark, real, visceral, and _very_ human. This was _real_ corruption, tainting the _human players_ and manifesting within their characters. And wow, that street thug was the absolutely _perfect_ foil for all of this, and was a truly noble man in the end. A human being down on his luck, given a better purpose to his life, and giving up his life to do it. Giving up his life to improve the lives of all of the city, and those after him. I love this story.

@mattk6719

4 жыл бұрын

Kind of like the Black Lives Matter "heroes"

@jackmafo832

4 жыл бұрын

Or a version of 'The Boys'

@aquabunny1992

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattk6719 when people are being kidnapped in unmarked vans by military forces, those people are the bad guys. Sounds like your advocating for Olympian here

@mattk6719

3 жыл бұрын

@@aquabunny1992 What movie are you even getting your news from?

@kaze0fox

3 жыл бұрын

Why are you mixing fiction with real life events?

“I killed the city’s faith in you. And now I’m dropping the world on you” that sent chills up my spine

@donovanlane7835

Жыл бұрын

YES. 100%

@lucas_vstheworld

Жыл бұрын

Same no matter how many times i rewatch it

When the DM asks if you're sure you want to do something, that's a red flag right there.

@NavyMonk89

4 жыл бұрын

Fact

@morganrobinson8042

4 жыл бұрын

Every time.

@MyriadSkies

4 жыл бұрын

But so often, it's also an interesting option to take =D.

@JoshSweetvale

3 жыл бұрын

Hubris. It was Olympian's flaw, and his player's.

@masterreaper115

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoshSweetvale olympian wasnt given that option. Adept was.

Solomon had already lived long enough as a villain, so he died a hero... I've heard this before, I LOVE IT! It's like "The Boys: The RPG"

“You can’t kill heroes. You’re a villain.” “Good thing you’re not a hero then, you bastard.” Dude. Holy shit. That was so good. Wow.

Instead of becoming the justice league they became the seven from the boy's

@falloutfallout2594

4 жыл бұрын

You absolute right

@Steinsbeck

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing.

@manticorephoenix

4 жыл бұрын

I think the DM and half the players just read too many edgy 80s comic books and had no idea they weren't being original but in fact being just the Seven

@zeymahdovulom392

4 жыл бұрын

@@manticorephoenix But here's the thing, this story is more than 3 years old. It's just a case of good players going bad instead if being unoriginal.

@bosunbill9059

4 жыл бұрын

@@manticorephoenix Hey the DM is one of the good guys here that is sick of Olympian's shite.

You know, there’s a quote for this: “But although the cliche says that power always corrupts, what is seldom said ... is that power always reveals.”

@R3GARnator

3 жыл бұрын

"If you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power. Any man can stand adversity - only a great man can stand prosperity." --Robert Ingersol, often mis-attrituted to Abraham Lincoln.

@fredslipknot9

3 жыл бұрын

Very wise.

@fredxvi

3 жыл бұрын

That Boys on Netflix essentially

@BrawnyStream

3 жыл бұрын

Sardec Xavier Amazon*^

If someone says a racial slur, “just slips out” you ought to know that doesn’t happen unless that person uses them regularly.

@funnynameforme4091

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. Everyone has racist or sexist or any of the "ist" thoughts. People who are those "ist" don't care when it just slips out and uses it as an excuse. Someone can be so angry they don't think straight and things so slip out but they are actually sorry about it. The guys you're talking about aren't those people

@leihamada4672

2 жыл бұрын

@@funnynameforme4091 OP didn’t say anything about -ist. You don’t need to be racist to say racist things just like you don’t have to be English to speak English. The thing is when you get upset you don’t say random dwarfism slurs. You say what you think will hurt someone. If you are so upset that you use slurs you need to really evaluate where your head is at. The truth is the more upset you get the fewer syllables you can use as you go to the more primitive parts of the brain. It’s one thing if you are just roaring at people it’s another to use duo-syllabic slurs.

Solomun: In-Game Villain Solomun's Player: Real-Life Hero

@somuchtocook9159

3 жыл бұрын

Solumun historically and in game: the one who does nothing reveals who they really are

"Oi. You see that god over there?" "Yeah?" "You know what we should do?" "Oh come on, don't say it. He's a god" "Oi. What are we?" ".....We're muggers" "And what do muggers do?" "...We mug people" "So?..." "Let's go mug im!" Haven't even watched the video, just immediately thought of this.

@dorianrobinette9712

4 жыл бұрын

this is the exact conversation every bandit has in an rpg when looking at the main character.

@shadowofthehitokiri5787

4 жыл бұрын

@@dorianrobinette9712 Essentially.

@gamingpandaboy

4 жыл бұрын

Mad respect bro

@madsam7582

4 жыл бұрын

@@dorianrobinette9712 like in Fallout, when Raiders, decide that their little switchblade is a match for the dude walking by in Power Armour, who carries enough munitions to level a city.

@dorianrobinette9712

4 жыл бұрын

@@madsam7582 Or in skyrim, when some bandits see the dragonborn, a being that's essentially a demigod walking by in full plate daedric armor, and who can literally bend reality simply by speaking words in the language of some big scaly flying lizards, when they are wearing leather and wielding dinky iron swords.

"In the beginning he was a villain but at the end he died a hero" I can see that being put on Solomon's grave.

@somuchtocook9159

3 жыл бұрын

I can also see that it could also contain the abrahamic legends of king soloman if it was someone who loved those tales made the grave

"I refuse to play against him in any form to this day" Smart move. That man is terrifying.

You know, there's an old saying that goes "Power can Corrupt, and Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely." i think this fits what happened to Olympian and others in this story .....

@razorflossrazor2937

4 жыл бұрын

I like this one better power doesn't corrupt it reveals.

@christianbarrett3040

4 жыл бұрын

You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain.

@technicallybread

4 жыл бұрын

And protocol actually repent. cuz he wasnt a god like Olympian. and also he wasnt a dick

@b.t.r.7464

4 жыл бұрын

@@razorflossrazor2937 That's probably a far truer statement.

@probablythedm1669

4 жыл бұрын

I believe the quote is: "All power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The more I’ve learned, the less I believe it. Power doesn’t always corrupt. What power always does is reveal. When a guy gets into a position where he doesn’t have to worry anymore, then you see what he wanted to do all along.” - Robert Caro

"And now I'm dropping the world on you." Most. Epic. Line. Ever.

A hero named Olympian overwhelmed by his own hubris. How fitting.

what I find especially interesting is that "Olympian" wasn't behaving that way because the player was out to tell a cool story. He was quite literally a "That guy" who saw nothing wrong with his actions, much like a schoolyard bully.

It seems the street thug gained the superpower of unnoticeability. Maybe give him the supervillain name "big brother" since he will watch you while never being noticed.

@somuchtocook9159

3 жыл бұрын

A villain and the hero can have the same skills but use those skills for different reasons . This battle would merely be a battle of the one who breaks first. Both are perceived as villains yet they show two ways a skill can be used.

@liamdalemon1525

3 жыл бұрын

so what, is he a boishock villain now?

@kylekyle4930

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamdalemon1525 It's a reference to 1984 where the dictator is called big brother

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ,Abraham Lincoln Olympian, you failed.

@theia2249

2 жыл бұрын

MISRABLY!

The protagonist being named Solomon is just the cherry on top since Solomon considered a wise king in most accounts of the abrahamic religions. When you think about, he didn't use brain nor brawn to defeat all three of the supposed heroes. He used their arrogance, greed, and pride against them to turn the people on them. He performed one miracle, but that was only proof of his wisdom.

@adamnakamura8003

3 жыл бұрын

True good and evil are different, yes, but both are determined true by one factor: both have no sin. No pride in what either are doing, no lust, greed, or gluttony for any type of power or goal, no wrath towards anything besides their moral opposite, no sloth in doing good or evil, and no envy of the other side, just righteous or dubious actions and attitude.

@datkhornedog899

3 жыл бұрын

I am a Lawful Evil vigilante, who basically works as a serial killer, starting with other serious criminals, then mafias and corrupt businesses, later even heroes who went too far. Villains are included, but by killing a Superhero _as an ordinary human_ (not including the "magical" form that this character comes). Slightly like the thug Solomon, only with more brutality and more visible and lasting changes. The character in question goes by two names: Hunter as the Serial Killer, Wraith as an Anti-Villain. More jovial, still no less deadly. Real Identity is already here.

@lisagaughan7154

3 жыл бұрын

@@datkhornedog899 I'm thinking of being a Professor Pyg type of character.

What a story. Just... amazing, and it makes you think. Solomon's player outplayed three overpowered heroes and it was just glorious to watch, and the meltdowns made it even better.

The superheroes in this story is similar to the Seven the comic series and the Amazon Prime series the Boys. The heroes seem to be good but are truly evil but to only be taken down by non heroic individuals. Taken down by their own hubris.

Sounds like megamind, but with extra steps

@pencilbender

4 жыл бұрын

holy shit, thats exactly what i thought!

@mikeolarte-torres2094

4 жыл бұрын

This happened before megamind you doof

@dgrunklesamiii4615

4 жыл бұрын

Quite the contrary. Megamind focused his intellectual talents towards the death of Metro Man, to only find the failings of Solomun's kin. Solomun fought a phycological war, one that only true heroes could win, and guaranteed victory against monsters rabid with power.

@jargozle5393

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikeolarte-torres2094 how do you know that. And he wasn't sying it was a copy

@liamdalemon1525

3 жыл бұрын

probably better than it too... I mean I like the concept of the film, done amazingly, but maybe take the romance out of it

is it hilarious that Solomon rlly acted like King Solomon The Doktor is just Megamind Olympian IS literally TITAIN from Megamind who bullied the Mayor by flicking him at the chin And Adept is generic mary sue hero And Protocol, supposedly Batman despite what he did in this campaign, is somehow the most rationale out of them all. Sorta just like in DC.

@darkposidon5464

4 жыл бұрын

Protical was probably more like owl man

@jackzed2020

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkposidon5464 you mean nite owl. Who actually is batman in the dire alternate universe of watchmen, where doctor Manhattan ist superman who has zero interest in mankind overall, rorschach is the question, a barely noted character and the comedian just the biggest good asshole you'll meet.

@angelreyes8714

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackzed2020 No. He legit means Owl Man. An alternate version of Batman that is seen in the animated movie, Crisis of Two Earths. Where the Justice League is against their own versions except Evil. In that version Owl Man wants to destroy "Earth Prime" (the first Earth and Universe to ever exist) because if he does, he can effectively erase every single multiverse ever created. His reasoning for this is that "Man" (humanity) has and will always be evil and chaotic, just like a cancer, and like cancer it must be stopped. Even in this "evil" version he still holds rational views compared to the original Batman.

@JaelinBezel

3 жыл бұрын

Adept sounded like he was built to be the logical conclusion to that kid on the playground who pulls the “everything-proof shield” bullshit.

@thefool1986

3 жыл бұрын

My opinion adent is car from Jojo's Bizarre Adventures

"What a fool you are. I'm a god. How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence.”

I've heard this story a few times before, but I love it every time!

@DavidShgo

4 жыл бұрын

Cloak and Dagger. Love that story SOOOOOOO MUCH.

@quenten5770

4 жыл бұрын

Same love Cloak and Dagger

@dragonjames4500

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@johnnysizemore5797

4 жыл бұрын

@@DavidShgo hey, that's where i first heard it too! I was waiting for another installment of The All Guardsman Party, so i found this as i nosied around...

@kharijordan6426

4 жыл бұрын

So it is the same one. Ok.

This story shows what happens when laws don't apply to powerful people, and why a world with superhero-like people would most likely crumble.

@Orange_Swirl

4 жыл бұрын

But what about that universe's version of the Justice League?

@kabob0077

3 жыл бұрын

*Looks at Worm* Yeah, it can go downhill in a lot of ways...

I always wondered what would happen if true villains actually used their knowledge of the heroes strengths against them. "I want to adapt from feeling mental pain" (brain shuts off) 😂😂😂

I love the concepts at play here. Not sure what the goal of the campaign was about other than a hero/villain romp fest from the sounds of it but, what Solomon did was truly clever. He most certainly wasn't a hero but was a man with the means of mayhem. I loved Solomons character concept, I love how well it played into "the end game." Well done!

@liamdalemon1525

3 жыл бұрын

he was a hero, just a douche bag one

*starts the vid* wait... is this the lemonade farce? "named Olympian" it is!!

@maifa9922

3 жыл бұрын

Where'd you read this?

i kinda see why solomon was a fitting name. solomon was incredibly wise and thoughtful and a inpressive judge. he is one who masters all,he is one who masters all and he is eternitys begining. the solomon in this game was thoughtful,quiet and a voice of reason. this character in spirit was solomon himself and he beat them with smarts. when solomon won he "surrendered the world" aka he let himself die knowing hed win

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain This story fits the quote not only to a T, but is one of the best possible examples of it put into action It's a wonderful story to tell

This is my favorite story on your channel, even above the false hydra one. It's also what led me to realize that it's the social observation of what players do that fascinates me the most, merely perceived through the medium of RP. THAT is a rich experience for me.

Ohhhh shit, I haven't read this one in a long time. *sits back with popcorn*

Oh yeah, one of my favorite green text stories! Everyone loves hearing about That Guy getting his come'up'ins, but for me this is one of the best ones. The amount of forethought and planning that Solomon's player would have had to put into all of this is admirable. I know that old green text stories should be taken with a grain of salt, but part of me likes to believe that this one truly happened, especially since I've never heard of anyone trying to refute it.

i'm getting megamind vibes. give superpowers to the wrong nerd and you'll get a villain that makes actual villains cringe.

@corsaircarl9582

Жыл бұрын

Oh they become villains alright, just not super ones.

Suddenly, I recall a description for "Irredeemable" (or maybe it was "Incorruptible"?) where it was stated "When someone like Superman, or Spider-Man or any Superhero, really, gets their powers we always assume they're ethical and emotionally mature enough to handle their power responsibly... but what if they weren't?"

@JoshSweetvale

3 жыл бұрын

Trouble is, when Superman has a psychotic episode and goes on a killing spree, nobody can stop him. Thank god this setting had a bigger fish.

@liamdalemon1525

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoshSweetvale not a bigger fish, a smarter one. like how batman knows how to kill superman

@JoshSweetvale

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamdalemon1525 Lol. No. Batman just goes _splat._

@liamdalemon1525

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoshSweetvale I mean like someone who would know how someone fights and how to exploit them to achieve whatever kind of victory over them that's possible that doesn't involve nukes or anything of the sorts

Solomons plan reminds me of the ending of Doom Patrol. They were given a similar choice, except explosives on both sides. They choose better.

This sounds like a prequel to 'The Boys'.

@mattk6719

4 жыл бұрын

Some of it sounds like those AntiFa/BlaLivMatr "heroes."

@mattk6719

3 жыл бұрын

@Clone Rayne Right... you have to be OUT of touch with reality to do that...

@dogwaterjoe3783

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattk6719 what about that heroic kid who crossed state lines to use a gun he illegally had just to shoot protestors? Is that a hero to you? You're adorable.

@mattk6719

3 жыл бұрын

@@dogwaterjoe3783 lol. "Protesters"

@sophiehatter3111

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattk6719 stfu snowflake

Reminds me a bit of Eve Forward's "Villains By Necessity" where, after the War of Good Versus Evil, Heroes had closed this portal that let Evil flow into the world. Problem is, unknown to the forces of Good, Evil is needed for the world to survive, and the world is unknowingly put into jeopardy. A hundred years later, a leftover group of villains finds out that the world will be destroyed unless the forces of Evil are released back into the world, and thus set off to save the world. Along the way, it's revealed that the Villains are, mostly, decent enough people, with even the most Evil member of the group having once had a family, which had been murdered just because they were of a species that was usually Evil. As for the Forces of Good, they aren't so nice, with more than a few not taking "No" for an answer, especially the woodland prince whenever he has the Villains lovely female druid in his clutches..... And it's revealed that the Big Good Guy (an elven wizard who was one of the Original Heroes), had committed an act that really upsets the main Bad Guy (an assassin with an uncanny ability to throw daggers and other objects accurately at great distances) to the point that he's able to use a Holy sword to kill him.

@pambronson4467

3 жыл бұрын

I am so happy someone else has read this book!

@lockwoan01

3 жыл бұрын

@@pambronson4467 Ah, you read Villains by Necessity too?

@christopherbravo1813

Жыл бұрын

no disrespect, but that doesn't sound NEARLY as cool as this scenario. Solomon didn't actively go out of his way to make himself seem sympathetic. heck, he arguably only acted out of a desire for personal vengeance. this just sounds like stereotypical "evil heroes, good guy villains" writing, which in my opinion lost it's novelty long ago.

@lockwoan01

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherbravo1813 To be fair, "Villains by Necessity" by Eve Forward was written in 1995, so it's 27 years old.

@christopherbravo1813

Жыл бұрын

@@lockwoan01 OH. well in that case, I have MUCH less to complain about. though my point about the differences still stands.

This story reminds me if the quote from Dark Knight Rises from Harvey Dent "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

@somuchtocook9159

3 жыл бұрын

But if you die a villain you won’t live long enough to see yourself become the hero

These stories make me wish my schedule was better for dnd. Still trying to find a group though. Loyalty Tarrenshadow will serve his liegelord/ half-sister.

@silverknight0871

4 жыл бұрын

Heck you are trying to make your schedule work for dnd while I'm here just trying to find people that will stay in a session for more than once and would like to play my home brew campain

@jacobcrumpton4643

4 жыл бұрын

@@silverknight0871 the struggle is real man for both of us

@silverknight0871

4 жыл бұрын

@@jacobcrumpton4643 I had a dnd club at my school and I had to compete against a really good and ingaging dm so I stood no chance

@jacobcrumpton4643

4 жыл бұрын

@@silverknight0871 you had a dnd club at your school? damn. wish I had that. well, good luck to you man.

@silverknight0871

4 жыл бұрын

@@jacobcrumpton4643 I graduated this year so I can't go back

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Solomon: *uno reverse card*

"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely", such is an all too accurate quote to go with this story.

Nothing is more terrifying than when a vengeful man goes quiet

“Power always corrupts, and absolute power corrupts... absolutely”

These are no tears, this is something stuck in my eyes

I'd like to say this is the core example of "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." story.

The Olympian sounds a lot like Homelander from the Boys. I'm always in for some superpowered sociopaths, just love them

This is one of my favorite stories. When a genius of a player, makes a great move. This is a gem

Aaah Sorry Nothing quippy this time i’m in a malaise...might have a song fir y’all next time though yirbel lives *throws confetti*

Wow, this story actually made me realize that, maybe just maybe, the villains are more right than the hero's, Solomun, a thug that was about as strong and a normal guy just a bit smarter, proved to his entire city, the hero's they praised were doing worse than the villains they hated, that's how I love to see storys play

@Arcticmaster1190

3 жыл бұрын

Not every time, but there’s always the aspects of doing bad things for the sake of doing the greater good. The heroes can always turn on their morals, hence the saying you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain. There’s a million and one ways that twist the perspective but it’s always the perspective that matters. Olympian, even though he ended up being the villain in this story, believed (and even said so via his player) that he was the hero. While most (myself included) would agree his actions were truly barbaric, it ultimately matters to what sort of lesson one wishes to teach with the tale. After all, most of everyone in a story often have a point in what they do.

Years later and this story still sticks with me. Definitely my favorite story on the channel

Slomon, despite being a criminal, is the hero the city deserved

Y'all know the channel "cloak and dagger" posted this exact story years ago, right? It actually inspired me to play some super hero ttrpg's

@aricbasner8172

3 жыл бұрын

I recommend mutants and masterminds 3rd edition it has the most expansive character creation mechanics I've seen

"Absolute power corrupt absolutely" this story really reflect so much on this quote...

Did you know that this story has its own page on TV Tropes? This one’s an old story, but an old story that is still a fantastic story, no matter who tells it I always have a blast.

I've heard this story once, both times were unique, each one conveyed the emotion and theme of the story in a way that made the story interesting.

This is the biggest Rove reversal I've ever seen

(Sees title) (Reads comments) "Hey I've heard this one, it's a classic!"

I always enjoy playing a sneaky thug and I loved this the most,I hope to hear more characters like him

Honestly this man is playing 6D chess

@tcrpgfan

2 жыл бұрын

Naw man this guy is playing Dwarf Fortress... and winning.

This story is probably still the best I've heard from when I first heard it on cloak and dagger's channel. I'll be honest though, cloak and dagger did this one better. You DEFINITELY have stories you've done better because the voice acting was perfect such as the one with the one with the murderhobos destroying the world led by an old man necromancer.

@firestorm165

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@flyboy6392

4 жыл бұрын

could you link his video?

@dutchvanderlinde248

4 жыл бұрын

@@flyboy6392 just type cloak and dagger how a street thug killed a god. Idak know how to link videos on mobile.

@flyboy6392

4 жыл бұрын

@@dutchvanderlinde248 I found it, thanks, and that's fair.

@dutchvanderlinde248

4 жыл бұрын

@@flyboy6392 you're welcome.

Definitely your best story so far good sir, keep em' a comin'

This is legit my favorite TTRPG story. It's always nice to see another tell it. Great work.

Ah, has someone found Cloak and Dagger's channel? (Ton of great stuff on that channel too, also covered this. Both of these are great!)

@firestorm165

4 жыл бұрын

Cloak and dagger is one hell of a storyteller

@nexustragoon1920

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed I originally heard this story on Cloak & Dagger’s channel

@Zulk_RS

4 жыл бұрын

I love his story telling.

@theorderofthefrontmostlawn4546

3 жыл бұрын

OLD MAN HENDERSON...

@firestorm165

3 жыл бұрын

@@theorderofthefrontmostlawn4546 my god that one was balls to the walls insane. And a 300 page backstory? I've got a reputation at my table for my long backstories but that's just plain crazy

DC: "Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!!!"

Saw this on Cloak and Dagger's channel long ago, but I'm glad to hear your rendition.

@IamaPERSON

4 жыл бұрын

Same, and it's still just as good as before!

I remember hearing this one on Cloak and dagger.

Mirror: A villain who’s life has been filled with struggle and torment. He sees the world as a dark cruel place and thus decides to reflect that in his actions. He turns to Olympian and behind his mirror like mask that hides his face he smiles as he stands over the broken body of Doctor. “You see? We are no different. Regardless of the reasons why, we reflect the world around us, cold, cruel and uncaring... So go ahead and kill me. Because in the end, that single action... will shatter your mask.”

Every new D&D story is making me impatient to begin my experience with the game in person. Maybe over time I'll give in and try an online/ Discord-like game if things don't get better in the U.S.

What a mighty fucking legacy. That guy has the most tabletop cred I've ever seen and I would legit be so pleased to play alongside him.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE STORIES, I really hope this makes it to be part of the intro.

I´m a sucker for villains. Most of the heroes in movie are the marry sue typ of person without any deep and meaningfull background. In my opionion it is the villain who makes the hero shine in the end

@MRCrazyKorn

4 жыл бұрын

I can't agree more

@emberfist8347

4 жыл бұрын

Nah only Rey is a Mary Sue. They are rarer than you think.

@dgrunklesamiii4615

4 жыл бұрын

Or, in this case, the villain shines light on the actions of the "hero".

@liamdalemon1525

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 at one point in the films SHE GET'S SHOT AND THE BOLT BOUNCES OFF HER! I BET 99% OF THE JEDI WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORD WITH YOU!

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamdalemon1525 No Jedi could do that. Plus 99% of Jedi were killed in Order 66

This is my favorite story on here, I’ve been rewatching this for months.

I’m just amazed, not only did the player become horrible but I think he fell like his hero did

Hey oh ello everyone how you all doing

@michaelbohannon527

4 жыл бұрын

eh, i'm alright. just got my first DUI and totaled my van on mothers day. have 5 kids, the older two boys are disabled, so the not drinking is stressing me out. need a bit of release. i DM for my wife in our games, but i can't really focus on the story at the moment. with my physical disability i'm in constant pain, so i still drink. have to go to online classes before my next court date. 20 hours of it. not great man. there's more, won't bore you.

@UndeadSteampunk

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbohannon527 I hope things get better for you

@michaelbohannon527

4 жыл бұрын

@@UndeadSteampunk money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy security if things go tits up. pro tip.

@michaelbohannon527

4 жыл бұрын

@@UndeadSteampunk thanks for the good vibes too. sorry if that sounded dickish. didn't mean it. i'm find. dude asked, so i told em half.

@michaelbohannon527

4 жыл бұрын

FINE. shit. nother bad day mate.

Man...I can’t help thinking about the connections of this story to the recent social injustices taking place in America and beyond. The “Heroes” turning on the citizens, The “Villain” being nothing but a smart man with modern technology and access to video evidence. The cream on top was the toppling of the “Heroic” statues! What a great story!

@JoshSweetvale

3 жыл бұрын

This is nothing new. It happened in the 90's. Ramparts, Rodney King...

He has the planning of the jocker and the smarts of the riddler and as blunt as batman...I feel like he could take out every army in the world with one attack

@liamdalemon1525

3 жыл бұрын

rumor has it that he actually succeeded in sneaking into area 51

@Slashernate

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamdalemon1525 :O

It takes a grand and intoxicating innocence to kill a god

This story gave me chills

Moral of the story: Good rolls are good

“Look at the power they need to match just a fraction of ours!” Or something like that.

It's amazing how absolutely personal these defeats were to the "heroes". Solomon destroys Protocol by outsmarting, outstealthing, and outteching him with his own computer. He destroys Adapt by forcing him to choose to adapt into a vegetable. And he destroys the charismatic, bold, brave, Olympian by shattering his image and showing him to be a weak, cowardly, and blind, moron. Poetic. Justice.

Finally your like the third time ive seen this story Edit not mad just love this story and want to see it get more attention same with boxcar joe the magic hobo

Perfect. Just... perfection. Playing RPG's really lets people gauge who they really are by exploring the stories they present. A bunch of douchey dudes playing heroes doesn't make heroes less douchey. Badass points to Solomon and his player. Perfect execution!

my god, Soloman is such a genius, he is literally like Batman or Billy Butcher from the boys!

Wow. Just wow. I hope Solomon's player sees this. Great job!

Loved this 👌

@RedDawn430

4 жыл бұрын

10 minutes early?

Beginner DM looking for advice: My current campaign has two issues rise of late, revolving around one sorcerer. 1st is that the Sorcerer is way higher level than the rest of the party thanks to the deck of many things, and the second is that the "DM vs players" mindset seems to be growing. I've been accused of bringing monsters that are too strong, but the party has not struggled with ANY of their encounters.

@scottmcalister3235

4 жыл бұрын

It may be a bit of a bastard play but you could homebrew a sort of anti-power magic circle? Like on that negates some of the powers so the sorcerer has to rely on wits then that deck. Just be creative and something will appear for that opportunity. Just be sure to have fun.

@nyctalopus3911

4 жыл бұрын

The two probleme are linked, your monster can be too strong for the players other than the sorcerer but with the sorcerer is stronger than the party, he can solve the problem with ease. If you are beginner and the group know it, explain you have difficulty to balence the encouter because the difference of level et talk to them to find an solution : put all the party to the level of the sorcerer, ask to the sorcerer of create a new character or nerf this one. If you chose one of the two last, you must explain the problem and offers something to compensate the loss : an epic death to protect with a avantage of the party, the transformation of the sorcerer as a friendly pnj who can help sometime ; but you must talk with your player in all case. And please, try to not use the deck of many thing, it's tricky or be inventive in its use.

@Landis963

4 жыл бұрын

@@nyctalopus3911 I would also advise talking with the sorcerer to get their input on a sendoff arc for the character, leading up to whatever the group decides would be best.

@witherwolf3316

4 жыл бұрын

Split the Party, with the Sorcerer at the head no creature at their level will serve a challenge, so have the sorceror and the Party separate, it does not have to be permanent, but if you can raise your players at a faster rate than the sorcerer you may be able to even the ground. I would also consider having some kind of main antagonist for them to come into contact with, if so, imprisoning the sorcerer could work.

@jamesbryant5106

4 жыл бұрын

never dm'd but just an idea if your campaign has some sort of magical college like the Cobalt Soul or w/e, have a group of elite (vastly higher level) wizards/sorcerers track down the party. upon contact the wizards without warning cast mass crowd control on the party specifically on the sorcerer for any skills that have to be single target. Once subdued they teleport away with him to w/e college and have it explained as a precaution. He gained knowledge to quickly and they had to be sure he has the wisdom to use it properly. keep him gone till the party catches up. have him play another temporary character, or pilot an npc till then also have the college take away the Deck of Many Things, at least until hes allowed to leave. also i've never played so this could be a pointless idea

Olympian sounds like Homelander with no Uncle Ben to teach him about Trains and responsibilities.

That, was dark. Jesus, mad respect to Solomon as a character and also the player, that was intense and honestly genius, the line of hero blurs fast.