Jedi: "Only a sith deals in absolutes" Sith: "Are you sure about that?" Jedi: "Absolutely" Sith: >:) Jedi: :O

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

The line is ignoring the context of Anakin making the absolute you are with him or his enemy. In other words join me or I will kill you. That is dealing ie negotiating in an absolute. Jedi wouldn't take close-minded approach.

@daviddaugherty2816

3 жыл бұрын

The Jedi were pretty much nothing *but* closed-minded, especially in the prequels. That doesn't make the Sith or the Empire good, or the Rebels bad, but basically the only things the Jedi said that entire trilogy amounted to either, "Na-na-na, we're not listening! If we don't know about it, it can't hurt us!" or "Don't do that, it's bad because we say it is."

@Random_Traveler_

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 All you really need to do to see the flaws of the Jedi is check out the Knights of the Old Republic games, specifically KotOR II. The exile was banished from the order for fighting a necessary battle, the Jedi simply wanted to wait out the fighting and make a decision _after_ the damage was already done by the Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders. I always liked this approach to the Jedi better, they shouldn't be the *ultimate good* whatsoever imo.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@daviddaugherty2816 Except that is not true. They were acting on their available information. They specifically sent Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan back to Naboo because they were willing to look further into his claims of facing a Sith on Tatooine despite how unlikely it appeared at the time. Also the things they say are bad we see why in this trilogy.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@Random_Traveler_ Except you forget the Exile in the process destroyed a planet and a good chunk of her own forces in the process. That would get you kicked out of any position.

“Is this the sith janitor?” *one comment later* “This is the sith janitor”

@kabob0077

3 жыл бұрын

All I had to do was look at the thumbnail to say "Oh boy, first Henderson now the Sith Janitor!"

@wp9310

3 жыл бұрын

“The true Sith Janitor does not clean up for others, they clean up only for themself!” - Palpatine or something idk

@elijahhayter3026

3 жыл бұрын

Darth Skuije

@SolemnHeretic

3 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for a long time for this story to show up on this channel, it seems my patience has been rewarded :)

@legion4902

3 жыл бұрын

Dude same!

Character: *Gets harrassed* Character: *Retaliates and defends themself* Party: *Yo wtf we need to kill this manz that ain't right*

@iBloodxHunter

3 жыл бұрын

This is why I don't trust the judgment of other people.

@JRBDWD

3 жыл бұрын

Precisely why democracy doesnt work

@iBloodxHunter

3 жыл бұрын

@@JRBDWD worked for longer than any monarchy or despotism. No, it's far more deep-seated and sinister than simply that. It's corruption.

@Norlan4u

3 жыл бұрын

@@iBloodxHunter em the whole worked longer part is quite funny please take a look at how long history reaches back Democracy while in principle an old greek concept is still quite young as a government i prefer the statement that Democracy is Shit but the others where worse we do not have found a form of ruling ourselves that we can call good for more than a decade before things start going to shit because we cant agree on anything other than that we disagree

@JRBDWD

3 жыл бұрын

@@iBloodxHunter lol,you have the nickname i used on my CS team years ago. Answering your comment "longer",lol mate. You know that electoral democracy has only been practiced for almost 200 years and the most stupid version,the one you know doesnt even have 100 years,meanwhile monarchism,republicanism,imperialism or "despotism" literally have thousands of years. Why democrats always say that? Corrupted democract is still democracy.

Ms. Princess was the instigator, how she wasn't punished too is baffling to me. ...i need to hear that "year & a half" speech in a building rage tone, he had his moment snatched from him & he's pissed.

@Blaze-nm1uh

3 жыл бұрын

Look up the tale forge, they did this story a long time ago and their narration of it was fantastic. Should be under “the Sith Janitor”.

@tylercoon1791

3 жыл бұрын

Punished Creepswork also did a version of this. I remember his rendition being real good

@JoshtheOverlander

3 жыл бұрын

"I'VE DONE MY WAITING!! A YEAR AND A HALF OF IT, IN AZKABAN!!"

@genseven4616

3 жыл бұрын

Women rarely are punished for instigating or flat out attacking men. Look at the Amber Heard situation.

@TinyShaman

2 жыл бұрын

The reason for "Ms Princess" not being punished might be fairly simple: the whole story is probably bullshit. Don't get me wrong, it's an adorable revenge fantasy. But it raises way too many questions as to the motivations of the real people involved, the convoluted character of the role-playing in the game, the logistics of the whole betrayal business, as well as the reactions of the narrator to the events.

The Sith Janitor story is always a classic.

@kabob0077

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed it is, it's something we should look at as a guide.

@ATSucks1

3 жыл бұрын

Punished Creepsworks, read it the best. Like the very best. He's quit now but his work remains. Look it up if you don't know already.

@rossnorris2351

3 жыл бұрын

Sith Janitor? Ahhhhhh now I understand.

@hunterrhoades1813

3 жыл бұрын

“A year, and a half...”

@SupernaturalDetective

3 жыл бұрын

@@hunterrhoades1813 a year and a FUCKING HALF

Oh, I remember this story. "Have you ever heard the story of Darth Custodius? It is not a story the Jedi would tell you."

@Corsair2092gaming

6 ай бұрын

Is it possible to learn this power?

@VlRU7S

5 ай бұрын

@@Corsair2092gaming… not from a Jedi

@fleshdadbot6852

5 ай бұрын

​@@VlRU7S fuck it then, long live the empire.

Apparently this story is old, but I've never heard of it. I like it. A good RP of being treated badly by supposedly "good" characters allowing for a character to grow.

@malal4751

3 жыл бұрын

It's called the Sith janitor, lot's of people have covered it surprised you haven't heard of it.

@hubbabubba2570

2 жыл бұрын

The DS is cool

All bad guy stories start with the line similar to "I laid dormant and watched as they..." And incorporate a closing line of "... Now it's my turn!" tend to be great.

@daviddaugherty2816

3 жыл бұрын

Just the ones where the bad guy wins. I just got an idea...

@williamfalls

3 жыл бұрын

@@daviddaugherty2816 Not necessarily.

@willparry530

3 жыл бұрын

@@daviddaugherty2816I don't think the bad guy winning is necessary for the story to be great. Just have him or her survive to be a continuing threat later.

The thing about the Jedi is you have to look at what they used to be. The only reason any Jedi got involved in the Madalorian Wars is because Revan and some followers went rogue, after that they really only fought the Sith Empire until the Prequels started. A thousand years of nothing really happening allowed them to be corrupted into what we saw. In Legends, it's made clear that the Sith had been orchestrating things in the background for a really long time, they made the Repulblic dependent on the Jedi, and the Jedi Order changed in response to that. The Jedi have even had a civil war over the right way to do things, and before that even allowed a marriage and a limited use of the Dark Side.

@truekurayami

3 жыл бұрын

People also need to remember neither the Jedi nor the Sith were the original teachings. It was the grey order that taught the virtues and sins of both light and dark, then a schism formed between a faction favoring the light and one favoring the dark leading to the Sith and Jedi we know.

Ah yes Darth Cleanex

@SupernaturalDetective

3 жыл бұрын

His master Darth Cloroxus

@osiristheexile5457

3 жыл бұрын

Darth Drain-o

@TheLytable

3 жыл бұрын

Of the line of Darth Comet, who instigated "The Rule of Two Cloths" which states: "Two there shall be; one to scrub and bubbles, the other to rinse."

@twinodoom

3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Cleanex the mad?

@phaethos

3 жыл бұрын

Darth Ajax more like

Considering the council's only response to anything is:"It's not the jedi way."

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Only things that are bad ideas.

@kingwildcat6192000

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 its more anything that the council deemed as bad ideas. after all it was a bad idea how they treated Anakin yet they did only then to say something about what he thought was a bad idea

@subjectdelta7210

3 жыл бұрын

To that I say that is not the Jedi way

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingwildcat6192000 Except how they treated Anakin was treat as any other Jedi Knight. He wasn’t a special snowflake

@kingwildcat6192000

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 he was the "chosen one" who was supposed to end the last of the sith. While yes he wasn't a snowflake doesn't change the fact anything that would do actual help or was something they didnt agree with was what was considered "not the jedi way." Actually helping the galaxy put end to horrors in the universes "was not the jedi way" yet letting slavery happen was? They were peace keepers but did no peace keeping

“You underestimate my power, Hank.”

@Subreon

3 жыл бұрын

yup *light saber sounds*

@TalonSky

3 жыл бұрын

Goddang it Bobby, do I look like I know what a Sith Lawd is?

@huntermeldrum6444

3 жыл бұрын

*janitor walks out with blaster, datapad, and backpack* Me: wait a moment, che che sha! *puts a pair of sunglasses, and hat on the janitor* Me: Now you look like Dale!

mfw i accidentally break an entire intergalactic economy when trying to stop evil space wizards

@CodeVagrantVods

3 жыл бұрын

So s2e1 of Rick and Morty lol

At the end of the Day, The Force is just tool. Whether used for vengeance of a janitor or the snarky justice of arrogant Jedi. It is just that a tool to be used by those capable of doing so.

@EskChan19

3 жыл бұрын

That's what the Sith want to think. I'd suggest looking into the motivations of Kreia in Kotor 2. It's a great story about the gray areas of the force.

@SupaSillyThyme

3 жыл бұрын

well, no, yes, no, at the end of the day either jedi or sith refuse to completely study either side, and the only sithish to ever use the dark side as a true tool was revan.

@lockskelington314

3 жыл бұрын

@@SupaSillyThyme And the more you take from the Force the more is taken from you.

@SupaSillyThyme

3 жыл бұрын

@@lockskelington314 ... thats also not how it works.

@lockskelington314

3 жыл бұрын

@@SupaSillyThyme The Sith, The fiercest of them that abused the force got turned into monsters quite litterly. Such as a Force Vampire or enteral Rage Man. The opposite is also true the more you embrace the force the more it embraces you until you are noting but a shell of your former self such is the way of Jedi as they give up emotions and sense of self to become one with the force.

From this? No not particularly. The jedi were running lawful stupid paladin types. "I am good so anything I do must be good." Was the mechanic justified? Yes. If the Jedi had honestly handled the situation. Mediated as they should. Then the janitor would not have sunk like that and perhaps the others would learn a lesson in even handedness. From the Old Republic, I believe the Sith way is not inherently evil, but the way it is practiced and the way they are hunted by Jedi forces the hands. Jedi on the other hand tend to be too absolute.

@romankvapil9184

3 жыл бұрын

There's a good argument to be made that light and dark sides have no real moral justification as that falls on the actions of the individuals. There's a SW EU comic where it entails the story about a sith lord that rather than using his powers and knowledge for conquest, he still retains his moral standing, but uses his powers and understanding to help him be a shrewd and ruthless businessman where he later dies of old age, surrounded by his friends and family. The thing about the DARKSIDE itself, is that most people that are weak-willed fall to it's temptations and become arrogant and evil individuals that think their power justifies their actions or something. Though, we have seen that with the Jedi as well. The force itself is just a tool that can be used for good and evil purposes. Both have their temptations, it's a matter if the person that wields it understands the responsibilities in how they wield it and Sith generally believe that that they don't have to have such a responsibility when using it the way they do.

@trinalgalaxy5943

3 жыл бұрын

This Sith Code contains the reason they are bad in my opinion: "Through passion I gain strength; Through strength I gain power; Through power I gain victory; Through victory my chains are broke" The last line is the goal, break whatever chains are holding you back. This could be a desire to end slavery, bring peace, or any noble or ignoble goal. but to achieve this, they need strength. but in their code, strength alone does not break the chains, strength gives power. power is itself a chain, one that grows stronger the more power you obtain. They may have long gained the strength to achieve victory and break their chains, but because they never have enough power to break that ever increasing chain, they dont seek victory, only more power. it is this desperation for power that makes them evil, not being sith alone. The jedi are no better however. They have a cultish dogmatism that cannot bear any dissent. and for this reason, they drive those that need help away. They do not listen to what is really happening, only dealing with the surface level problems. In this case, it was to punish the one that used the dark side and not bother even trying to find out WHY he had lashed out to begin with. moreover, the jedi didnt even stop and consider the consequences of his actions (did they ever in any material?) might drive someone to the dark side rather than stop them from falling to begin with. The janitor was CLEARLY distraught over what he did, so could be kept from turning to the dark. instead they forced him down that path without any other option, and it sounds like they never even gave him an opportunity to rethink that desire for revenge. Honestly, your mentor at the sith temple in KOTOR is the best example of this. She was a slave, but was freed by the Jedi with the hope of coming back and freeing the rest of the slaves. She accidentally "killed" her friend, causing her to run and fall to the sith. As a sith, she wanted to gain enough power to free the slaves, and she did gain that strength. but the power was never enough, so she continued to try and rise through the ranks of the sith training temple and beyond. only at the end (if you chose to spare her and save her) do you find out how broken she is. what her goals were. how sorry she was for what caused her fall. And the real kicker? the friend she "killed" was only injured and held no ill will towards her. She was just a lost soul, failed by the jedi, consumed by the sith, but not beyond redemption. sorry for the book...

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Except that is not true at all. The Sith played god and that never is someone a Jedi would do. They don't protocol droids impersonating deities because of what the Sith did on Korriban

@RuBoo001

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say the Jedi are evil. Just bureaucratic hypocrites. Then they get almost entirely wiped out, then started anew. Better, stronger... And then the years pass, they become more and more bureaucratic, more hypocritical. And then, the cycle begins again. The cycle of the Jedi, and their Order. Rise, corruption, and fall.

@sleppingbag7357

3 жыл бұрын

@@trinalgalaxy5943 i liked this book :D

Jedi: "The Sith are evil!" Janitor: "From my point of view, the Jedi is evil."

@sharlharmakhis280

3 жыл бұрын

~laughs in Unexpectedly-Force-Sensitive Mando~

@archmagetyler

2 жыл бұрын

From my point of view: “ya’ll are both fuckin evil in your own ways.”

@tysondennis1016

6 ай бұрын

Agreed

The age old story of the sith janitor, one of the most legendary tales out there.

What I've learned from playing Star Wars The OId Republic, as well as all of the various movies and novels, is this: The Force makes you STUPID. You're Force Sensitive? Great! Your choices are Cackling, Murdering Batman Villain or Self-Immolating Pacifist Buddhist Monk Hermit. Variances from this are simply your character's journey to one of these two goals. Deviations from these paths are punished, and inevitably will cause you to be dragged down the opposite path, whether it makes any sense or not. Trying to become a Hermit Monk, but also have a girlfriend? Sorry, you're now literally Two-Face. Dark and brooding servant of the Dark, but you're not *totally* into murdering children? BAM, you're now a Force Ghost in white robes spouting philosophical nonsense to the next generation.

@chongwillson972

3 жыл бұрын

@Polenicus to be fair being a force ghost IS a sith wet dream.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Except there is a reason the Jedi can't have girlfriends. Because they need to rational arbiters who aren't biased to any group. You can't make rational choices when you let personal feelings get involved. And the Jedi are like Vulcans their emotions are incredibly voliatile.

@chongwillson972

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 "Because they need to rational arbiters who aren't biased to any group" except that is total horseshit they are REALLY bias to the republic.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@chongwillson972 Except they aren't they rebelled against the Republic back during the Plus Deia because it was turned into a perversion of itself a hereditary theocracy.

@LeavanDragon

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 yet inevitably end up still joining the republic, serving as generals in war who also trained padawans to he child soldiers. leading to the order being destroyed as a Sith lord in hiding literally builds his own empire in front of them. Chong is right, the jedis principles are inherently shit and the hubris they embraced led to Palpatine corrupting the chosen one and obliterating the order for decades. I don't know about the Plus Deia era, but if it takes place before clone wars than Chong is right, simply due to the events of the Clone Wars era. There were literally only a few TRUE jedi left in the actual order.

The moment that noble attacked him from the rear, literally because he would NOT FIGHT, the GM should have had HER fall to the dark side. Seriously, how could ANYBODY on that ship, or IRL, think that she was justified or good or "light" at all? How could the JEDI think that? IMO, while this story was great, and I loved that the GM worked with OP, I think the GM handled it wrong there at the beginning. And then, after all that working behind the scenes, he did, as OP said, take a year and a half from him. And he didn't give OP a chance to explain to the "Jedi" how they had been evil, all along. I don't blame OP for being angry with GM at that point. The title doesn't seem to actually be applicable. I don't think the players, let alone the Jedi, learned anything. The Jedi didn't even get a chance to learn anything. They just died.

I'm glad the other players at least checked to see if the narrator was having fun with his character.

@mattchamp1541

2 жыл бұрын

If only they knew

this story reminded me of that one time i played a star wars campain. All the jedis in the party were acting all cool and smug while a friend and I would often do all the heavy work (even in fights) i dont remember the class names but we were the equivalent of fighter and roge. At one point those bastards starte to dable into the dark side, tha was when my friend an i had enough, talked to the DM to tell him as soon as we got a hint of them turning to the dark side we would blast their backs with no hesitation. And thats how that campain ended. 4 smug jedis killed by a barrage from 2 blaster rifles, it was amazing.

@starsetgamer8914

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes the order 66 maneuver

"from my point of view the Jedi are evil" Anakin "I don't like sand" Skywalker.

their ship was named Ebon Hawk in my headcanon best ship in the universe ;D

@jamiedanielvincent6940

3 жыл бұрын

Love that ship

I've always wondered what is like to play with the guy on all of these stories. OP even said: "one of the players even confronted me, asking if I was having fun or if I wanted to create a new character...". This sounds like a red flag. I feel this tale is either exaggerated or the events were quite different from the other's perspective. so basically: Cool story bro

@MegabombGamer-rb5kh

29 күн бұрын

This. I'm tired of people stroking this jackass's ego. Sure, the noble girl was the wrong, but the DM should've given punishment immediately for attacking someone who refused a duel. Instead, he enables this jerk to scheme for a year and a half to ruin the game for everyone else. You thought he was mad when his vengeance was taken from him? Imagine how everyone else felt.

The Jedi were always self serving and and self righteous. "Maintaining the balance" by snuffing out all the sith while bolstering their numbers into the thousands. That being said sith were bad just because their take on everything needing to be about gaining power. Conclusion both sides suck for different reasons

I really liked the story, but I’m not sure how the title fits.

@TalonSky

3 жыл бұрын

From his point of view, the Jedi were evil.

@hellspawn3200

3 жыл бұрын

even canonically ppl didn't like the jedi much.

@TGymer

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with op. I feel like 'Sith Teaches the Jedi They Are In Fact Space Terrorists' isnt something that happened in this story.

@JoshtheOverlander

3 жыл бұрын

@@TGymer Yeah, what happened was the Jedi mistreated OP and ended up pushing him to the Dark Side and he took revenge on them for it. Nowhere in the story outside of that one throwaway line about Jedi being bullies does it ever claim the party were terrorists

@CodeVagrantVods

3 жыл бұрын

Terrorists? Nah. Douchebags that deserved everything they got? Hell yea

This has a similar vibe but darker ending to another story on this channel “How a street thug beat a god.” Look it up if you haven’t already seen/heard it and compare it to this one.

@geknechteterknechtinknecht8334

3 жыл бұрын

WhateverhisName was vs "Olympus" or how this unfunny Homelander-Clone was named, right? ;-) Saw that Story, too. x'D

@overlordtealover1128

3 жыл бұрын

@@geknechteterknechtinknecht8334 but I don't think he tried to be like homelander

@allenr316

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah... "How a street thug beat a god." is a great story too.

@geknechteterknechtinknecht8334

3 жыл бұрын

-but I don't think he tried to be like homelander- @@overlordtealover1128 Yet he was similar. He was ready to kill someone who is absolutely no Threat to him at all.

@firestorm165

3 жыл бұрын

That last move he pulled was worthy of grand admiral Thrawn himself

In this case definatly on side of the Sith. I just say count doku. ALOT of warnings were given. Who didn't listen? The Jedi that there is a big threat going on. What did happen? BBEG won.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Dooku was part of the problem.

@hellspawn3200

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 how so? dooku was trying to be vigilant in his abilities to ensure when the sith rose that they would be defeated. Yoda constantly berated him and insinuated that he was simply preparing to fight against the jedi, since yoda staunchly refused to believe the sith were extinct.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@hellspawn3200 Dooku has a very social Darwinist might make right only the strongest should be Jedi idea which is contrary to the Jedi Code. Jedi don’t seek power or prestige

This is a fantastic store that shows that Jedi aren't infallible and have flaws, without going into the Cannon and Legends reasons! I've always viewed myself as a Sith, if a bit more Grey in my ways, and so I very much reason with this.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Except they aren't Jedi just players who a made a mistake. Also I should note the Sith are always evil.

These jedi might not have been in the right, but calling them terrorists is a bit of a stretch given the info we have to go on.

@Underworlddream

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, like didn't a Sith destroy his own planet one time because he consider it 'Art' or the few time a Sith during the first Sith War blew up a few suns and in turn destroying who knows how many species and planets around it, or suck up all life on a planet, or that time they assasinated politicians, or that time they made a bomb that trap people souls in it, or the time the Sith made a magical sith bioweapon that turn people into monsters?

@ssfbob456

3 жыл бұрын

@@Underworlddream Yeah, Darth Nihlus was the Eater of Worlds, Darth Vitiate sacrificed the entire population of his home world to become the Immortal Emporer, and the Sith Empire in general heavily practiced race-based slavery and a murder-your-boss promotion system. Even the Galactic Empire was extremely racist and openly practiced slavery. After all, name one alien Imperial Officer besides Thrawn.

@AzraelThanatos

3 жыл бұрын

@@ssfbob456 In legends, you had several that were Inquisitors such as most of the group of them that faced off with Kyle Katarn in Jedi Knight. You also had the Prophets of the Dark Side/Secret Order of the Emperor who had a few in their ranks.

@willparry530

3 жыл бұрын

@@AzraelThanatos There are also canonically some alien dark siders serving the Empire in Jedi: Fallen Order

@AzraelThanatos

3 жыл бұрын

@@willparry530 Was mainly aiming at Legends continuity stuff since the Sith Janitor was pre-Disney

Heard this story before and loved it. I'd argue this guy wasn't even going to the Dark Side. It more looked at him and told him "Oi! Even i know this is messed up! Want actual honest vengeance?"

Don't go attacking anyone in your party. Because they might turn into the TRUE BBEG of the game and TPK the rest of the party. But seriously, the Sith Janitor story is an absolute classic in what NOT to do.

I've been watching your channel sense day one and wow! Great job! The quality, the narration, the enthusiasm while you tell a story are so gripping. Keep up the amazing work for all us nerds! 🤓

It's funny. As a kid, I considered myself closer to the Jedi than the Sith. Now, I am on my own side. I walk the gray path.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

That isn't really possible

@Cron04

3 жыл бұрын

@Ember Fist Look up the Original Jedi , they practiced both equally. (I can't remember the spelling but they are basically just Jedi but spelt slightly different.)

@willparry530

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 Cron is correct. At least in the EU, the original force users practiced both light and dark. There was no conflict until they split into separate sects.

@WolfLewis47

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 in the new Disney Verse, perhaps. Then again, it may still linger in the shadows. I know before the "dreaded" Episode One, Qui-Gonn was actually on a planet that saw equal parts creation and destruction in a symbiotic balance and so too, he came to understand the delicate balance between the light and dark sides of the force. He even went against the better judgement of some on the council so as to learn more.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cron04 Except they split after a civil war showing why it is bad idea.

I was just watching ,,empire was right in Star Wars" when this showed up

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Well the Empire wasn't right.

@TheNecromorphkiller

3 жыл бұрын

Whoever made that video is a bad person lmao

@lorando-hx3or

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheNecromorphkiller it is a parody of empire propaganda

I would have been honored to be one of the party members killed by the treacherous mechanic…how epic would that ending have been?

Glad to see this gain. Still remember the first time Darth-Janitor won it all

I side with the Mandalorians.

@gamejunky3040

3 жыл бұрын

It is the way

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

So a fractured society of hypocrites that see all non-warriors as subhuman?

@AJStarhiker

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 none of the groups are perfect. Mandalorians don't restrict to a trait (Force sensitivity) you can't choose.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@AJStarhiker Yes they do if you aren't fit enough to be a warrior under their standards you become target practice for the next batch of recruits. Not to mention all their genocides

@zackdawgz8398

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 a lot of people don’t know about the mandalorian wars when the great revan led a army of jedi to defend the republic from the massive amount of deaths they were causing

Sith in my opinion more cool than Jedi because their emotion literally gives them power. Imagine being literally too angry to die.

@joseestevezhernandez558

3 жыл бұрын

You literally described Vader

@TheMightyBattleSquid

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like that power of love/friendship everyone hates and calls cliche lol

@RZSFvOrigin

3 жыл бұрын

There's a sith called Darth sion who literally resurrected himself with pure hate and was in fact too angry to die for a long while

@eggsandmoonshine8066

3 жыл бұрын

@@RZSFvOrigin that alone sounds epic.

@ragnarthorson2066

3 жыл бұрын

in old comics there was a sith that was just a head in a jar because didn't feel like dying so he didn't

I been taught by my mentor Kreia. So I only see gray now. Like Jolee and even Atton. You can learn alot from Kreia, Atton, and Jolee. Too bad the fans see gray jedi, light sith and anything in between too weak. Heck even being a bounty hunter is not worth the credits. Too bad Kreia doesn't get the recognition she deserves. Break the cycle, stop both the light and dark.

@obsidianblack7249

3 жыл бұрын

Apathy is death

@articusramos808

3 жыл бұрын

@@obsidianblack7249 worse then death, atleast a corpse feeds the beasts and insects.

@kabob0077

3 жыл бұрын

*[Influence gained: Kreia]*

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Kreia is an idiot. She isn't grey and you can't be grey because of how the force works.

@trinalgalaxy5943

3 жыл бұрын

KOTOR gave us 2 characters that show the problems of the sith and the jedi. Kreia is one, the other is Yuthura (your sith mentor from the first game). Kreia is obvious, she tells you flat out and forces you to look at your actions (be they light or dark) from a different light. Yuthura on the other hand is much more subtle. its less what lessons she gives as more it is her story that tells the failure of the Jedi, how a slave that was freed fell, and her consumption by the sith, she wanted to free slaves but became a slave to her desperate need for power, power that was never enough. only by walking on both sides can one truly understand the price of taking a side and try to find the balance between failure and success.

Yes!!! I remember this story, it's the Sith Janitor!!! I love this story

That's crazy I was just looking for this story yesterday.

At this rate, I expect to be seeing the stories of "Sir Bearington" or "Los Tiberon" in the next few stories.

My character was an aide to Senator, later Chancellor Palpatine in a SW game decades ago. This was set between Ep. 1 and Ep. 2, so no Clone War as of yet. I was a low-level functionary...essentially I was actually the person who got the space coffee and made space photocopies for the Chancellor's office. My character wasn't sure about Palpatine and his goals, especially concerning the Jedi, who she thought of as heroes. At the start of the campaign, the GM had Palpatine come to my character and put on his best, "My young friend..." act and told me that he had an important mission for me. He was sending me on a mission with the Jedi to make certain that a particular planet was cleared for colonization. Apparently, there used to be a colony of Jedi who had been cast out by the Council for dabbling in forbidden Force techniques and I was going as the representative of the Senate to make sure they were removed. Peaceably ideally, but if not the Jedi would handle things. I was to be the representative of the Chancellor's office and he said that if I did this job well, I could undoubtedly expect greater things in the future. The rest of the group consists of our Republic soldier pilot, his Wookie companion and one of the worst Jedi I have ever seen played. He was insultingly cryptic whenever I asked for his outlook on how the mission would go, saying things like, "If the exiles are there, I will take care of them. They're beyond your meager abilities." So, we get to the planet, begin scouting out the colony site and stumble across several of the Jedi exiles. They seem guarded, not quite friendly but definitely not hostile. They ask what we're doing here and I explain that they have to leave and that we have provided a ship for them to go where they will, when the "Jedi" steps up and begins insulting them. He says that he can sense the dark side on them and that he can't allow them to leave the planet and that they will all either have to surrender to him or die. The rest of the party is...astounded...to say the least. After a bit more goading, a fight breaks out between the Jedi and the exiles. Not being anything remotely resembling a combat character, I run away and try to find my way back to the ship. I get lost and end up in the exilecompound, which looks a little cultish maybe, but in a Jim Jones way rather than a Colonel Kurtz sort of way. They ask me what the problem is and why I'm there. Just as I begin to explain, the Jedi shows up, walking out of the forest with a smug look on his face. The leader of the exiles comes up and asks him what's going on. The Jedi pulls out one of the exiles lightsabers and...I kid you not...this would become a legendary catchphrase in our gaming group for years afterwards...throws said lightsaber down at the feet of the leader and says, "One of your boys dropped this..." Needless to say, a fight broke out and my character runs yet again, this time finding my way back to the ship. The Jedi and I had gotten separated from the pilot and the Wookie, who were off fighting some hostile fauna and I found them, told them what was happening in a panic and we ran back to the ship, leaving the Jedi character to his fate by blasting off. My character went back to Palpatine and told him *everything* that had happened. I even had video images of the "Jedi" picking a fight, which later got leaked to the media...somehow...staining the Order's reputation. I told him that I had had doubts about his intentions before, but that it was clear to me now that the Jedi were a dangerous threat to the Republic and that I would do all that I could to help him protect the Republic. The GM and I envisioned that...down the line...my character would have become a Senator or something similar in the Republic and one of Chancellor Palpatine's staunchest allies, moving on to become a power in the Galactic Empire...all because of Jedi arrogance.

Those jedi were playing checkers, while the janitor was playing 4D chess 🤣

Excellent story. I do wonder what the look on the players' faces was when their trusty mechanic TPK'd them and the BBEG.

I’m just happy that the actual players were trying to help irl

Oh yeah this one is a classic, i recall hearing it a couple years ago.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

@Gala-yp8nx

3 жыл бұрын

And it is so very cold in space.

Whoa... Cool story, bro. Love this kind of story, already sick with those good doers Jedi for a long time. Need this kind of story.

Oh I've heard this story before, it's great, I love it

Love it!

If I remember correctly, it was Dooku who said the Jedi were complacent against corruption, not able to help even the slaves of Tatooine, but they can help the slavers

Ive ALWAYS loved this story

i remember listening to this story from the story teller channel

The Tale of the Sith Janitor has a good moral to the story: If you are good guys, act like it. And if you're allies are acting like villains when they are supposed to be good guys, call them out on it. Cause the main kick off of EVERYTHING here was the entitled bint trying to goad the janitor who did not want anything to do with training into a fight. Then the JEDI, the one who was supposed to represent order and peace, rather than lecture the entitled bint for her actions because that is not how true jedi act, gave the janitor who, again, was happy to just mind his own business and maybe even have his own Han Solo moment later on, essentially a lecture about how he wasn't living up to his potential and how he should take this on the chin.

Never mess with the janitor

Wow that quick

Now that's a reveal!

This was an awesome story

its nice that out of game they made sure he was having fun. it meant if he wasn't doing this they would still be a fun group

In the end Sith & Jedi are one side of the same coin. Potentially dangerous individuals favoured by the higher forces of the StarWars universe.

@kabob0077

3 жыл бұрын

[Influence gained: Kreia]

@Masaru_isamu

3 жыл бұрын

this is why i'd roll as a Grey Jedi there is no light or dark..only the force

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@Masaru_isamu Which ignores how the force works.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

Except that is not true. The Jedi aren't dangerous.

@FreedomAndPeaceOnly

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 -Except the Jedi aren't dangerous- Tell that to the normal people that died in some of the civil wars depicted in either some kind of lightnovels, or other storys which were all signed off as canon. The Jedi's are f°cking stupid, selfrighteous c°nts who are just the more smug and narcistic side of *'law of the fittest'.* If some kind of government or group asks them to help them cut down violent protestors on their planet, the average Jedi's logic will be _" In order to bring this civil war to an quick end 'and safe even more lifes ultimately' we will just go there and use our demi-god like abilitys to cut the rebells down. "_ Is what has really happened quite a few times in official StarWars history. So how nice that must be huh, for the less previliged side? To see *'a f°cking ALIEN'* that is not even from your planet, maybe not even of your species, a god damned outsider come to your world AND HACK YOU DOWN LIKE AN ANIMAL FOR NOT SUBMITTING TO HIM. And in addition ° let yourself be imprisoned by the regime you maybe tried to dethrone ° or executed anyways Cool huh? The Jedis are smug arrogant goodie-two-shoes wannabe-hero's. They look down on personal emotions of the actual rightful people of a planet and stuck their noses in the business of planets which they have no business truly being on. _" All in the name of peace. "_ Lightsabers are nice since no blood ever keeps getting stuck on them. But even Lightsabers that are not red are in the end just the butcherknifes of wannabe-peaceful tyrants. :) A true Jedi will never let themself be used. In the war against the Federation that used Droids, they have at least only attacked Droids, who were used as conscious free killermachines to begin with. But they were also more than willing to just cut down people who did not yield to them, even though they were the biggest outsider in existence in those conflicts. And they felt entitled to every force sensitive humanoid in the galaxy. To drill their doctrin into them. To influence and mindcontrol them. Just as Sith would do. But the Sith are way more honest in their approach and show their contempt for those not submitting to them way more openly. While the Jedi just call you _"immature"_ and _"pitifully disoriented"_ if you do not let their bullcrap convince you. And if they deem it too "profitable" for their beliefs and agendas, they will just use the force on you to bend you to their will and agree to them. Never trust a Jedi who thinks you might not be as "peaceful" as they wanna force you to be.

Jedi: "The Sith are Evil!" Janitor: "...It's my lawn."

Didn't I hear this story already? Anyway, it's so good that I did not mind.

@hellspawn3200

3 жыл бұрын

probably it was covered on multiple channels.

I heard this story years ago as "Sith Janitor"

Psychology 101, you don't tell a child/angsty teen to "get over it you whiny little shit" about his freaking mother, and then Surprise Pikachu Face when suppressed emotions hit boiling point and explode. You made the Sith, and it doesn't take a genius to understand. You don't get to be pompous and a bully and pretend like the Jedi are the good guys, then Surprise Pikachu Face when he kicks the crap out of you for a year and a half of abuse.

Awesome

"Give back my year and a half!"

im on neither side of the force, i only fight for myself…but i will occasionally help Siths and Jedi when it suits my needs

Just wish this channel would get back to stories.

If I ever run a Star Wars game, my intention is to use various web articles I’ve read and MatPat’s videos to point out the Mayer holes in the concept of the rebellion are the good guys and the Jedi are heroes.

This sounds like a player who was playing a different game than the rest of his compatriots.

We need this as some like a star wars au movie

GIVE ME BACK! MY YEAR! AND A HAAAAAALF!!!!

Darth Shackleford

The sith janitor rocks

“FORCE POCKET SAND!”

I love how this story went. 🤔😉

A Sith janitor... Darth Wilko...

Nice

Good story.

1:40 Yep sounds just like highschool.

Lmfao the fact that they blocked you irl is hilarious

so he made a palatine where they did all the dirty work behind sense

Darth Janitor, you are a fuckin' legend. Serves those Jedi pricks right.

This has probably already been said, but you could say that the janitor had seen through the lies of the jedi.

I would love to hear about a party of grey jedi 😍 😎 and maybe a mandalorian or something lol

And oldy but a goodie.

I like is one so much

The Grey Jedi are right, it takes both sides of the Force together to be a truly whole.

@murderousintent7838

3 жыл бұрын

no, these were just idiot players playing lawful stupid paladin archetypes in star wars lore, the dark side is inherent corruption, with the light side being balance, balance in the force isn't balance between both sides, but its just all light with no corruption that is the dark side the light side is the will of the force, the dark side is bending the force to your will, the dark side is corrupting because of this

@michaelcgrigori7823

2 жыл бұрын

Kreia and Revan are the perfect examples!

Been a while since I've heard this one.

Peace is a lie. There is only Passion. Through Passion, I gain Strength. Through Strength, I gain Power. Through Power, I gain Victory. Through Victory, my chains are Broken. The Force shall free me.

@SuperSaiyanD48

3 жыл бұрын

"And then *you* will be broken." -Kreia

A classic

Never mess with: clerks/administrative assistants, janitors, IT, or maintenance. These are the people who make the world function. They can make your particular part of the world function very badly, or not at all. Especially on a spaceship, where they control the life support systems. Also, it looks like the people who play paladins badly also play jedi badly in the same way.

Gotta watch out for the quiet ones...they go postal 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I think you could have gone into more of the specific terrorist antics they got into but otherwise I have no illusions about the Jedi being anything more than people with extraordinary powers that can influence the world and be influenced by it in turn: Sith are generally more emotional than Jedi while Jedi are fairly calm and while the cultures do play a part it isn’t like the force has 0 influence over you, after all even your body influences you with various chemicals and such so who is to say the Force doesn’t either especially since it is a part of your body in the form of midichlorians. I even have this little theory about the Force being this giant entity/“person” (whether it is sentient in the same ways as we understand or is more animalistic is hard to say) and each individual person (and living things in general) in the galaxy can be considered a “cell” of its body. Now since it is a huge entity, it can’t control individual cells any more than we can control ours, at least not directly. So it takes indirect action to move things in a way it prefers. This results in it taking the side of the Jedi more often than not as the Jedi are less destructive (on average) on a wide scale. The Sith can be considered individualistic cancer cells that can cause massive death and destruction (force wounds which happens when many people die in a certain space in a relatively small time) and so the Sith get shafted in the Star Wars afterlife (quarantining dangerous “cells”) while Jedi get to be force ghosts and influence other Jedi in ways the Force wants. Maybe the bodies of dark side force users degrading with overuse of the dark side of the force isn’t because it is “too powerful for mortal scrubs” but the Force making a concerted effort to punish rowdy “cells” that reach the threshold (like an automatic immune response). The force doesn’t care about “good” or “evil,” the “light” or “dark,” it just cares about the little “cells“ staying in line and not making its “body” a painful mess. At least that is my own personal head canon on the Force. Speaking of afterlife, people who don’t even reach the threshold of force user may not retain their individuality in the “afterlife” and the same may be said about those Jedi that don’t become force ghosts. Just something to think about.

If there is light there is darkness if one mastered both only then there can be peace

@articusramos808

3 жыл бұрын

Spoken as a true user of the force.

@kabob0077

3 жыл бұрын

Okay, but have you considered killing the Force?

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

That is impossible the that isn't how balance works either.

@emberfist8347

3 жыл бұрын

@@articusramos808 Nah that isn't how the force works.

@articusramos808

3 жыл бұрын

@@emberfist8347 its a strange thing but, how the current feeling I have with star wars in general..... I am more happy to listen to Kreia . She got the right idea

Jedi, Sith, they are two sides of the same damned credit.

What ttrpg is this?

new sith lord who overthrown the emperor, a janitor who mastered the way of the force fighting oppression and in the name of freedom and glory