Great video! Thank you.

Excellent review and very helpful.

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I will have a bunch more videos coming out over the coming weeks and months on these shells as well as a bunch of others, so stick around!

Great pattern’s. I picked up 4 Boxes last week. Will Try this weekend. Shooting a Mossberg SA 410 Indian creek .385

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you got a good setup. I bet that .385 is gonna work well with them

When I bought apex ninja last year it was $60 for a box of 10…. It patterned awesome in my Stevens…. I liked the Winchester choke in your gun over the factory choke, much more even pattern with less voids.

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

The Apex loads are definitely on the list for shells I want to test out since I know they typically pattern well. I was surprised at what that winchester full choke did. Definitely a more open core, but less voids like you said

Great info. Thanks

They shoot great in my 20 gauge. Almost the identical pattern I get from Apex. I like the full in this video.

@matttyreeoutdoors

11 ай бұрын

They are definitely sleepers for what they are. That full choke shoots surprisingly well. I want to do some more testing with it to really see what it can do

What is you best choke/ammo combo with that gun? I have the same one.

Was hesitant on buying these until now.

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they seem to perform great, especially for the price and only being a 3/4oz payload

I sure do like my Winchester LB XR shells 12 ga. and no reason to spend the big bucks on Tungsten. But I sure am impressed what they are doing for the .410.

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I like them too. I have a video out patterning the 12 gauge longbeard 6s already and I have filmed a couple other longbeard tests that I'm gonna be posting soon. The problem with lead loads in a 410 is that you need the larger shot size to retain energy, but the pellet count and pattern suffers drastically, which is where the tungsten stuff comes in

@burkejones8277

11 ай бұрын

I agree 100%. The 3.5 inch LB XR #5 Magnums (1050 fps) is hard to beat out of my 12 gauge. But I set up a 20 for next season; probably use both along the way.

@juliusjames5577

11 ай бұрын

Yep, same shell I use out of a Winchester SX3 with a Rob Roberts .655 choke.

I have a REM 20 and a Winchester 20. Shoot TSS no 9 in both. I use the factory Full in both guns and the pattern is great in both guns. I think the patterns are more uniform when you don't use xtra tight chokes.

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I've seen the larger shot like 8s and 9s perform a little better through more open chokes while the smaller shot like 9.5s and 10s seem to like a little more constriction. It's something that I plan to test once I get my hands on some more loads and chokes

@mitchelldexter1901

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY I used to use a blackout turkey choke and the damn pattern was SUPER tight and clumpy and had a ton of fliers. I measured 300 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards. Now I use the factory full at of my Mossberg 20 gauge and it is a beautiful uniform pattern with a lot of leeway and I get about 200 pellets in a ten inch circle at 40.

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

@Mitchell Dexter yeah, I've seen similar things. I've got a Mossberg 835 ultimag that I run the factory full choke for turkey hunting. I have never even tried a dedicated turkey choke with it because the full just patterns nice and even out to 40 with no issues. It's another gun that I want to film some tests with at some point as well

Federal sucks with the flight control wad,I personally think the lower weight shells shoot better then the higher weight ones do,when you start shoving more pellets down a tite choke you will get a lot of flyers less pellets tighter patteren,I shoot a 7/8oz hand load with a great patteren at 40,tried a 15/16oz and it was spread way out there

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

You definitely need to find the balance that your setup likes. Too tight of a choke with a large payload can definitely blow open

@kevinward508

Жыл бұрын

I am shooting 9.5's out of my gun with a sumtoy customs choke.I am about to get Mt tristar viper 410 and I am going to have to do my homework all over again

Big name brands are usually lacking shot. It shot ok for what it is. Scoop up some Viper Ammunition, and a Patternmaster Code Black Turkey it's an insane combination!

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it wasn't bad for a budget load. I definitely have both of those on my list of stuff I eventually want to pick up and test out

@-B_G-

Жыл бұрын

What is Viper ammo website if you don’t mind? I can’t find em to order.

@littlejohnny210

Жыл бұрын

​@@-B_G- here's a link to their face book it has all the information you need. If you need anything else let me know!

@-B_G-

Жыл бұрын

@@littlejohnny210- thanks man!

@-B_G-

Жыл бұрын

I cant see the link. Idk if it’s a KZread thing or what.

I prefer the extrafull choke fantastic from the tested shots you made its shows alittle bit of groupin on the targets.like your shows honey.😊👍😳

@matttyreeoutdoors

6 ай бұрын

It's definitely a good pattern either way!

My factory choke likes the Wilson customs 10’s and apex. Indian creek choke in .390 liked 9’s better. Same gun.

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that makes sense. The 10s typically like a little more constriction like the factory choke, but the 9s seem to do better with slightly less constriction

Try the federal tss in the full choke. My 410 with full choke shot better with the full choke then the extra full

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

That's definitely something I have on the list to test out. Hopefully I can get it filmed soon

Impressive performance for a cheaper name brand load.

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Wow, I definitely didn't expect to see you guys in the comments! I definitely have the Cold Turkey loads on my list of shells that I want to get my hands on and test out of this setup

@saltcreekammo

Жыл бұрын

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It's my understanding that Winchester makes herters

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you would be correct. Herter's is loaded by Winchester for Bass Pro and Cabelas as their in house brand

For the money verdicts are better there the same price and better rounds

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

The Verdict stuff is definitely on the list of things I want to test out. The problem is when you order ammo online, I have to pay most places almost 20 bucks to ship it to me. So at that point, the ammo costs quite a bit more per shell then what the price appears to be initially

Apex, Rogue, or Verdict

@matttyreeoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Definitely all great loads that I'd like to get my hands on to test out

@troyrussell4733

Жыл бұрын

@@matttyreeoutdoors I have a Patternmaster Code Black Turkey in my set up. All three of those loads throw a ridiculous pattern. It is unbelievable what TSS has done for sub gauges. I may never take a 12ga again. I have a 410 and M2 20ga. No sense in taking a mule kick if ya don't have to. LOL

@joshsinglefooter

Жыл бұрын

I wont step down to .410 until TSS #10's are available in rouge or Apex are a main stay. Im just now stepping down from a 20 to a 28g because of rouge 1⅝ #9.5 TSS

@eduffy4937

8 ай бұрын

​@@joshsinglefootermec600jr buddy. Buy one for 250 bucks then roll your own for the rest of your life