100% the new 4cyl eng in the tacoma will prove to be garbage

@371kenny

20 күн бұрын

Yep just like the tundra

@ChrisGarcia.25

19 күн бұрын

Big shame to no longer have a Naturally Aspirated engine that always gives you peace of mind

@ChrisGarcia.25

19 күн бұрын

Exactly, damn Toyota..

@sompasongs

18 күн бұрын

I agree, who wants to pay that much for a 4cyl!

@lionsgarage

18 күн бұрын

the turbo is just another faliure point, if you blow the turbo off roading that is not fun even if you can make it back.

The 50k 4 popper Taco, the truck nobody wanted. And the rear door is at least 4 inches shorter.

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

What can we do now, they couldn’t listen to their customers so it may just get worse before they can finally choose to make it better. As for the Tacoma Pro I’d purchase it to really put it to the limits and test it for everyone’s sake.

I have a 2021 Tacoma, TRD off road, When I bought it I had a 21 Frontier out for a long test ride I'm 6'1 and the Frontier just didn't have the legroom other than that I liked the truck. I know the new ones are larger and definitely sharp trucks. Good Luck with your new ride !

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

If the Frontier had more leg room would you have bought that one over the Tacoma?

@1blkgsd

18 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 I don't know. I definitely liked the truck, a good friend of mine had a 2000 or 2001 Frontier that he got a ton of miles out of dependability IMO wouldn't have been an issue. If the new style was out in 2021 I probably would have bought one just for cost savings alone.

@ChrisGarcia.25

7 күн бұрын

Understood regardless the Tacoma is still a great truck to have despite some of my ‘negative’ experiences compared to this current Frontier

Haven’t had the chance yet of driving a frontier however I test drove a 2024 Tacoma trd off-road and currently owning a 2022 third gen Tacoma, wasn’t impressed. Yes, the 2024 Tacoma has great low end torque and the 8-speed transmission is a change for the better but the rest of the 4th gen Tacoma is cheap in my opinion. Glad you like the Nissan over the Tacoma.👍🏻

@HiPlains1

18 күн бұрын

It may look cheap but its very expensive lol. The biggest drawback on the new taco is the price. Its simply not competitive in the segment. When you can buy a ZR 2 for 49K and a TRD pro cost 65K then there is a problem. Basically a low trim SR 5 at 45K cost the same as nicer Ranger XLT with FX 4 package for the same price. I've seen those two side by side and the taco looks like a cheap work truck in comparison. To get refinement on the new Tacoma you have to spend about 55K. Insanity. And probably why the only ones really selling well are the top trims with the premium package. Because everything else looks like a bucket of cheap hard plastics.

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

You think you’d ever test drive the Frontier to find out? 👀 I like them both but I wish Tacoma was just better besides the reliability

@HiPlains1

18 күн бұрын

Sorry to say Toyota in North America is crap. Import an older JDM or buy the remaining 4 runner here now. Or buy last year's GX 460. If you have bucks buy a model 200 land cruiser. Last year made was 2021. Used prices are around 60 to 90K. And worth every penny. And will out live you. Yes, its that over built.

@ChrisGarcia.25

17 күн бұрын

I do want a 4 Runner there’s no doubt in my mind that I want the 2024 model. But having a JDM would be awesome too!

@HiPlains1

17 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 I test drove the 22 frontier and it was very nice. But not enough to move from my low mileage 2019 PRO 4X. There were some things I didn 't like. The front seats no longer have tilt. My 8 way power seat on my 19 is more comfortable for me. Plus they took away the power seat for the passenger side. I mean WTH? You seat a bit higher on the second gen. The back seat lost almost an inch on the new one. Basically they had the ergonomics nailed down in 2005 and should have left well alone. Put in the bigger center stack/gauge cluster etc.. into the old truck would have been perfect for me. I do like that my truck is port injected. But no getting around that with the CAFE restrictions.

You know you can edit out the parts where you’re figuring out what to say

@ChrisGarcia.25

19 күн бұрын

I’ll leave it out for future videos. I figured I’d leave it to show what I’m like sometimes in my natural state because I’m not perfect

@Sarge226

19 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 Ignore the comments, this is fine

@ChrisGarcia.25

3 күн бұрын

The car content shouldn’t be about me, however I was also unhappy that it was on the wrong settings which made the original video look dark during the test drive.

@stephenshowell

3 күн бұрын

A little roughness around the edges is nice, it doesn’t need to be a super-polished News Anchor presentation but you kinda pause and re-start several times to the point it’s distracting, imo

@ChrisGarcia.25

2 күн бұрын

Roughness is seriously what I want to include into my videos because I would love to show others that even starting KZread it does not have to be perfect! Plus I know some just prefer when it’s more raw and authentic rather than taking out most of what the video is missing. I appreciate your input, Thanks a lot 🙌

Haven't seen anything in this video to make me leave the Toyota brand. Each to his own.

@ChrisGarcia.25

6 күн бұрын

It’s not supposed to I know everyone has their preference no matter what. It’s difficult though even for me as much as I liked the Frontier I still really love Toyotas because it’s what I’m most comfortable with

I love the Frontier and I haven’t even got to test drive one yet but I love them cause of N/A nothing will break unlike turbo engines sorry not sorry but I give props to Nissan for keeping the tride and true v6

@ChrisGarcia.25

10 күн бұрын

Not even exaggerating, the test drive of the Frontier really allowed me to feel the difference compared to the Tacoma which made me fall in love with the Pro4X. As long as people have driven it they will see what I mean if they’ve driven the Tacoma enough

@tommcdonough6086

3 күн бұрын

Nissan was absolutely genius for keeping their naturally aspirated V6, and not jumping on the turbo bandwagon. If I was to buy a new midsized truck today Frontier would be a no brainier for me. I bought a new 22 Tacoma 4X4 that is paid off. Didn't want to deal with a turbo, knew what was coming for 2024. Nissan will be stealing business from Toyota. Naturally aspirated all the way,

@ChrisGarcia.25

2 күн бұрын

We love the V6 because I also hate turbo lag, when I foot is down I want to go! But wow @Jeffry I wish I could have done the same with my 2021 Tacoma that isn’t in my life anymore. 😕 Hopefully Nissan will hold on longer to the V6

the Tacoma is great, just looks too long of a vehicle to me.

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

The Long Bed too long that it made me uncomfortable lol. I needed somethig that was easier to off-road so the short bed Tacoma was good 👍

@lionsgarage

18 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 yes side by side Tacoma and Tundra not much difference in lenght

Where is the roof racks?

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

No roof racks here. I guess Nissan didn’t think the majority buying this truck needed it 🤷‍♂️

@HiPlains1

18 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 Yep the 2021 was the last year with the D40. Probably to save on assembly costs. They took out the rails on the bed floor as well. Just on the sides now.

@ChrisGarcia.25

7 күн бұрын

I appreciate the comment HiPlains1 because I had no idea this was done to the Frontiers, it makes sense though to save costs

Just hope they don’t use turbo in that engine. Once they do vehicle will become troublesome

@ChrisGarcia.25

8 күн бұрын

Same Vince! I just want them to hold onto the Naturally Aspirated engine as long as possible!

People say the 3rd gen Frontier copies the 3rd gen Taco. That's absolutely NOT true. The third gen taco has an inferior 6 speed transmission that shifts early, torque starved and endlessly searches gears. Then they bolted that up to the 3.5 Camry motor that was something they had on the shelve that was never developed for truck applications. Its was always a shit drive train combo. The seat position was also horrible making the driver sit too low. Ergonomic nightmare. Whereas Nissan spend the time and money to develop a new VQ 3.8DI motor for truck applications. Used a Daimler Benz 9 speed that was proven and did a great job mapping and tuning it for the frontier. As for Yota's 4th gen its a better truck in many ways but insanely overpriced for the mid size segment. I don't think it will sell nearly as well and they already have to discount to move them. Something unheard of for Yota. Not sure how reliable it will be as their 3.4 is having bearing failures and they already recalled 100K motors. Which is just the tip of the iceberg. A complete design defect IMO. My advice is don't buy a taco unless you can find a clean second gen (without rust) or buy the current 4 runner before they convert that to their TNGA platform.

@shooks555

19 күн бұрын

Yeah, I had the 21 Tacoma and have to agree with your assessment. I hated the 6spd tranny it was always shifting or hunting for a gear. The seating position was awful, legs almost level and straight out in front of me.

@ChrisGarcia.25

19 күн бұрын

I wish more could’ve been done for the third gen Tacoma to be a better truck, especially with all the negatives that you pointed out. I would love to have a forerunner again if you hadn’t seen mine and got repossessed, but just seeing them more and more now really makes it clear that it is exactly what I want for my future kids to grow up driving in for road trips

@ChrisGarcia.25

19 күн бұрын

Only thing I did to fix the gear hunting was get the KD max tune and that alone really solved the problem, but then I’m still driving a truck with not enough horsepower

I’m considering buying a 2015 Tacoma, a new Frontier, or a new Ridgeline.

@HiPlains1

20 күн бұрын

All good trucks IMO. And the 2015 was the last good Tacoma year using the bullet proof 4 liter and 5 speed auto. Just make sure it does not have rust issues. Also the Frontiers from around 2015-2019 were bullet proof with the VQ 40 motor and 5 speed. It was even better then Yota's 4 liter IMO. I have a 2019 Pro 4X and that truck is a tank. Can't say enough good things about it. Unlike the Yota it uses a fully boxed frame and has rear disc brakes. The dana 44 rear locker is rock solid. My 8 way power seat is still much better then the second gen Yota. The best thing they make is the current 4 runner. Better seats, more room in back, and still has the 4 liter. For now. But not for long as it will be converted to that miserable TNGA platform.

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

If you absolutely need a truck bed, I’m more on the side of Frontier because as I mentioned in the video you get, more horsepower power plus a transmission that makes accelerating when you need it a breeze, no gear hunting which was annoying with the Tacoma unless you get it tuned like I did, the Frontier also feels more like a truck because of heavier steering. Test drive both a 3rd Gen and the Frontier for some time and you will see.

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

I appreciate the help and do you have a 4 Runner or would consider getting one?

@HiPlains1

18 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 If I were in the market the current 4 runner would be the only Toyota I'd consider. Once it converts over to the TNGA platform i'm out. But in all honestly I would probably pick up a low mileage GX 460. Its based off the same J150 chassis as the toyota Prado land cruiser and there are many lift kits available if you want to mod. Its got more room, power (4.6 V8) and better ride then the 4 runner. Its a beast. But they quit making new ones. They just keep killing off the bullet proof body on frames. If you got some bucks go all he way and buy a 2021 Land cruiser model 200 with the 5.7 V8. I think 2021 was the last year made. That is the real deal and its so overbuilt it will outlast human life. Used prices for a 21 are around 60K-90K and worth every penny. They will never build anything like that again. The model 200 is uncompromising quality in every way. It has zero weaknesses.

@ChrisGarcia.25

3 күн бұрын

I would love if the current 4 Runners came with an optional V8 at least but I agree because once I’m in the position to do so I want the 4 Runner in my collection forever. I haven’t driven a GX so hearing that there’s some more space and that it is more comfortable than the 4 Runner has me curious 👀

I went to see a frontier 1st before seeing the new Tacoma. It was actually more expensive than the Tacoma…..here in Canada anyway. Going with the Tacoma. Mostly because it offers a manual transmission and nicer interior. The frontier felt “old”

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

How are you liking the Tacoma?

@M85Iroc

18 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25I liked the one I test drove (which was automatic), but as for mine, it arrives next month (manual)

@ChrisGarcia.25

7 күн бұрын

Congrats M85lroc! Will this be your first ever Tacoma?

@M85Iroc

6 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 Yes it will. I've had GM trucks before. And currently a Tesla (I know, its odd) which i'll be trading in.

@ChrisGarcia.25

3 күн бұрын

Hope you enjoy it! I was ungrateful and traded in my Tacoma like a dummy. Odd is fine though nothing wrong with that 👍

why are people making it seem like toyotas i4 are trash engines? When the i4 is highly comparable to their v8 in reliablity. I get it if you dont want a turbo but toyota has a great track record with their engines. Me personally I'd want the v6 and if toyota went crazy one day possibly a v8 for shts and giggles but that aint happening.

@ChrisGarcia.25

10 күн бұрын

If the Tacoma came with at-least 300+ horsepower like the Frontier Pro4X does, that would be one negative off the list of things I don’t like about the Tacoma. But I do trust the reliability of Toyota engines which gives me peace of mind.

Third generation Tacoma is the most uncomfortable truck I’ve ever driven.

@lionsgarage

18 күн бұрын

I have a 2015 camry that I use for Uber, the seats break my back after 30mins and when I sat in a 3rd gen Tacoma flet like they used the same seat foam material

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

I speak from experience and can agree to this 100% I even tried to put a seat cushion to get through a road trip, barely made a difference. This should be something everyone considers especially if you travel a lot

@HiPlains1

18 күн бұрын

Back when I was in the market I test drove a Tacoma two times. There were two showstopper deal killers. First was the low seat. Second the crappy transmission that endlessly searched for gears. I only test drove it a second time because I could not believe the mighty Yota would build something that terrible. But they did.

@wethepeople7629

18 күн бұрын

That’s why I drive a 2019 Ram 1500. I drive 4-5 hrs a day and before bought my next truck I tried the Tacoma and it felt like I was seating on a plastic seat.

@deantrainr

17 күн бұрын

Each to their own I reckon. I guess my torso and 6 foot psychic are all messed up because my 2022 Tacoma pro seat feels more comfortable than most other vehicles I’ve driven throughout the years. Maybe I got a defective drivers seat; who knows? 😳

Nah over 3rd gen, but over 4rd gen def

@ChrisGarcia.25

10 күн бұрын

3rd gen Tacomas is great but I just couldn’t settle for it if I had to pick between these two now

Test drove both, but the reliability of Toyota is the reason why i went with the Tacoma.

@MTG9878

19 күн бұрын

With that turbo 4 cylinder no thanks hard pass.

@Shibalba

19 күн бұрын

@@MTG9878 I went with a 2022 for that reason!

@ChrisGarcia.25

19 күн бұрын

3rd Gen Tacoma?

@Shibalba

19 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 Yes, Im a Toyota guy and im still scared of the turbo 4

@ChrisGarcia.25

3 күн бұрын

I’m sorry Shibalba I just realized how dumb of a question I asked! “3rD GeN TaComA” DUHH!! Anyway honestly I think it’s fine sticking with the V6 because these will be future classics now especially and at-least for the time being you have peace of mind!

As aTacomaa driver, I agree the suspension is super stiff but I personally would rather invest in a truck that is known to last longer. Frontier will last around 150,000 miles whereas Tacoma is 200,000-300,000 miles. And that is what sold me, but great video!

@MechE11B

20 күн бұрын

Not these new "Toyota" trucks... quite a few of them aren't even making it past their warranty period.

@gerardogonzalez1217

20 күн бұрын

I see 200,000 mile plus frontiers all the time. I’m in the automotive industry btw

@AmericaFirst069

20 күн бұрын

More than likely you will not keep it that long, anyways like the modern millennial you trade cars in constantly.

@outidenine7611

19 күн бұрын

@@AmericaFirst069 ok buddy

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

Honestly I’d have to say my main gripe with the 3rd Gen Tacoma over the Frontier is the lack of power plus more comfort when taking long road trips. How are you liking your Tacoma though?

No Android Auto / Apple Car Play this late in the game?

@gerardogonzalez1217

20 күн бұрын

Android auto and Apple CarPlay is standard in the frontier even the base model gets it

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

I’ve seen that the trucks come with wireless Apple Car Play / Android Auto

More people should not buy these overprice trucks, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Ford, Chevy, GM, etc... Let them sit on the lots!!! Dealers have been ripping people off for decades, let them sit for a year or two or more, until an affordable brand comes by...

@Sarge226

19 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t call the Nissans overpriced. Their fully loaded frontiers are like $37k brand new

@boiler2147

19 күн бұрын

I agree. Fully loaded Nissan Frontier is $45k msrp. Can find most on discount for $5-10k less. All other brands midsize fully loaded trucks are $52k or more. Nissan is not overpriced.

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

The definition of overpriced trucks is now owned by Toyota which is unfortunate for everyone. Most of the prices I’ve seen on the Frontiers are surprisingly cheap compared to other brands are.

i decided on a used 3rd gen taco over the newer frontier due to toyotas reliability

@ChrisGarcia.25

19 күн бұрын

I just wish Tacoma had what Frontier does, more horsepower, truck-like steering, no gear hunting, more comfortable to drive because on long road trips it wasn’t so pleasant. Still love the Tacoma though!

Nice walk around and Great sales talk... but a BIG NO😅

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

Not trying to sell anyone the Frontier but if it helps people understand where I’m coming from if they test drive both, hopefully it can help make up their mind. In the end I know the majority will always go Toyota which I can’t blame them for.

Uhhh no. Get your facts straight

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

No what? I stated my personal opinion and maybe even some hurtful facts others don’t want to accept that the Tacoma isn’t all that great despite it’s reliability

@hayden8693

18 күн бұрын

@@ChrisGarcia.25 true, good on ya

@ChrisGarcia.25

7 күн бұрын

No hostility here, I was rather a little upset at the time of replying but Hayden8693 seriously take care dude whatever you’re doing 🤜🤛

Stay away from the 9 speed transmission!

@ChrisGarcia.25

18 күн бұрын

Cries because I may not know, but what’s wrong with the 9 speed?

@antoniocognato5023

11 күн бұрын

​@@ChrisGarcia.25 it's a great transmission. Built in japan. Nissan 9 speed is fine

@ChrisGarcia.25

7 күн бұрын

And that’s all, just fine I’d agree because long term I have no experience with the frontier minus the first impression with the test drive I did which feels good already