My biggest complaint about the 3rd Gen is that I don't have one...

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 күн бұрын

😂 I wish more people were like you.

@rockkstah2550

7 күн бұрын

😂

@ntb9548

7 күн бұрын

Just got mine and I love it

@Blue-moon12

7 күн бұрын

😂😂 Join the club...it's great!

@secretasianman7622

7 күн бұрын

I’m about to get one. Hard to find a fully loaded Pro-4x in Baja storm for less than $47k where I’m at

2024 Frontier Pro-4x here. Love this truck. Heavy steering? No telescoping wheel? Grow a pair. It's a truck. Wouldn't even consider a new Toyota. Frontier is a keeper.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Yep!

@nicksmith8166

5 күн бұрын

Problem is most trucks now days are just luxury sedans with a bed and a lift. I love the Frontier. The last true truck out there

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

@@nicksmith8166 Agreed!

@glow4417

5 күн бұрын

Except if you have a pair, you care about off-roading ability and Frontier is horrible off-road -- even with a rear locking diff.

@BigAltimaEnergy719

4 күн бұрын

Test drove a new tacoma it felt so odd that it came with electric steering, so light and doesnt have good road feel, glad this one still offers hydraulic steering that feels heavy, but good road feel

I just bought a 2022 frontier pro 4x…my only complaint is that I dont own 2.

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 күн бұрын

👍 love it

@glow4417

5 күн бұрын

The Frontier is horrible off-road, that is the main problem with the truck. Even with a rear locker, the wheel braking to assist in difficult situation is horrible. And this is a fact, if you search online -- you will find this is the work midsize truck off-road out of all the major brand trucks available.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

@@glow4417 Have you ever driven one off road? Because I’ve had a couple and shown up 80 and 200 series land cruisers. Most people I wheel with are constantly surprised how well they do so maybe you’re just reading something from people on the internet that don’t actually know what they’re talking about.

@sydgerald

5 күн бұрын

​@@glow4417​ over the curse of the two weeks I've watched several videos of third gen Frontiers and I saw no problems with the truck doing going road.

I was speaking to my tech at Nissan. He said he’d recommend the new Frontier to family and friends. Says it’s been extremely reliable…no consistent issues cropping up so far. My 2022 has 21K miles. Zero issues. It’s been a great truck so far.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Yep!

I think it’s a great looking truck. As an owner of a 2013 Xterra PRO-4X my only complaint is that I can’t get a 2024/25 Xterra PRO-4X.

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 күн бұрын

We all want a new Xterra. Totally with you on that!

@johnnyreb1475

6 күн бұрын

I saw somewhere that there's a 2025 in the works but who knows.

I have a 2023 Pro4X and the transmission shifting was wonky and the cruise control was almost unusable. I took it to the dealer and told them about the tech bulletin. They were not aware of it but looked it up and after a couple of hours I got my truck back and it was a completely different truck. The cruise control works perfectly and the shifting is overall more consistent.

@AllThingsOverlanding

2 күн бұрын

Good to hear!

@meanstreak1170

Күн бұрын

I have a '23 pro4x and I seem to have the same issues. What is the tech bulletin?

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

@@meanstreak1170 here’s a post about it with the TSB number: www.clubfrontier.org/threads/2022-intelligent-cruise-control-fixed.388239/

@joemarchand8313

Күн бұрын

@GSPDUCKDOG: Prior to the tech bulletin, was your transmission wonky, specifically at lower speeds? Mine seems to act up and can be fairly harsh shifting between 20 and 35mph. Zero issues highway driving, very smooth. Did the bulletin correct the problem?

@BrentKrugh

Күн бұрын

Yes mine shifted harsh a in the 15-25 MPH range and occasionally at other speeds in addition the the cruise control shifting being a complete nightmare. The tech bulletin procedure fixed it all.

I bought a 2024 about a month ago. My complaint is always having to remember to push the auto stop-start button every time I fire it up. That feature should be defaulted to OFF and only turned on if the driver wants it. Also I'm 6'3 and my knees are hella close to the dash with the seat all the way back. Other than that, no complaints! This truck is awesome

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Yeah, I also turn off the auto start/stop every time I get in. Unfortunately, that's not a Nissan thing and more a governmental regulation thing. Seems all vehicles in the next 10 years or so will have that feature and it won't be able to be disabled, :(.

@3RAN7ON

4 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding that's just crazy, it causes way more stress on the starter & battery to literally save only milliliters of fuel

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

@@3RAN7ON Agreed. I turn mine off every time. They say that the starter’s more robust and the battery is bigger and that is supposed to offset it but I still feel like you’re gonna be replacing a starter every 50 to 60,000 miles.

@vauclainwalschaerts5424

Күн бұрын

To easily defeat the auto stop start, cut a sliver of thin plastic and slide into to area between the button and it's surround. It holds the button in. I cut a black plastic push on clip around it head used that and it's almost invisible in place.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

@@vauclainwalschaerts5424 Heard that! It hasn’t annoyed me that much that I’ve messed with it but that is an option.

Bought a a '24 SV because I wanted a king cab. A 6' bed is more valuable to me than a little backseat I would never use. Having said that, I wish the SV had a rear locker and LED headlights. I used to own a 3rd gen Taco, and getting used to the Frontier turning radius is hard. Love your vids.

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

The LED headlights were a big draw for me to the Pro-4X too (and the locker). Appreciate you watching!

Considering this vehicle above others. Thank you for this video.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

No problem! Glad it was helpful!

The limited turning radius is to keep you from flipping. It’s not corvette kids also old hydraulic steering is great so everyone back to the gym that’s complaining or go drive an old 90’s hardbody with no power steering then you won’t complain.

@RickRatchetTvJames_Bytch

6 күн бұрын

Exactly

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Agreed, :D

@jeanclaude7018

4 күн бұрын

My 1987 Hardbody has antique hydraulic steering. I cruise in raw luxury.

I appreciate your review and it confirms my choice to buy it in the future !

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Your timing is impeccable. Going to take a look on them now.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

Nice! They're great trucks, but just make sure none of these little quibbles are problematic for you. I love mine.

I currently own a 2022 Tacoma. I had a 2022 Frontier as a Co vehicle, as well as older Frontiers over the years. Head to Head the Frontier is a great truck that doesn't get enough credit. Even though I'm a Toyota guy, the Frontier redesign is a great truck. Their previous Frontier models were great trucks. You're right, a truck is a truck. Nice rig by the way.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Appreciate it and no hate to Toyotas at all. Both great trucks!

Thanks for the video. I absolutely loved the info, and it addresses some of the concerns I was hearing about. Great content!

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

Appreciate it!

2023 pro4x owner here..i love mine…yes the steering is heavy at first (coming from a sedan) but after a few days of driving it, I actually really enjoy the steering…yes, turning radius isnt great but oh well, the 360 camera helps with 3 point turning etc…i love it!

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Agreed!

@stephenhumma4772

4 күн бұрын

Is the turning radius any better than the previous model the second gen?

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

@@stephenhumma4772 Basically the same.

@nvpoolshooter

2 күн бұрын

​@@AllThingsOverlandingWrong. Not even close. Gen 3 turns on a dime compared to the Gen 2. I know because I've owned both.

@AllThingsOverlanding

2 күн бұрын

@@nvpoolshooter I have one of each sitting in my driveway right now and swap between them a couple times a week and they seem pretty similar to me. 🤷‍♂

Most of the complaints I think come from people driving other vehicles instead of this one. Great breakdown

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

Agreed.

Heavy steering... I'm a very petite 5 foot woman and I have driven these and its so easy... and I hear guys complain its "heavy" lol... The Frontier is easy to drive and drives great. I do hate small beds though... 6ft bare minimum for me, but I don't care to do crazy off-road stuff where it matters.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

Need you to come show these guys how it's done! :D

@jeanclaude7018

4 күн бұрын

I hope the "men" are listening to this!

Just bought a 2024 Pro-4X. Bluestone Pearl. I understand the steering concern, but not a focus. All in all, mine will never be an off-road grinder. Totally a boat hauling machine [4K I/O boat] with the looks and accessories that fill my demands. The Fender sound is a must have! All in all, cruise and shift pattern is not anything that grabs me. Yet. at 1,500 miles... I'm still feelings things out, but totally in love! Great video! Thanks!

@rcb361

6 күн бұрын

I bought a 24 Pro4x with Bluestone Pearl as well. I love it.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

I love that color. I also like the Fender audio. For the money, sure you could buy speakers and replace everything, but I'm not in high school anymore and just wanted it already in the truck and it's good enough for me. Congrats on the trucks guys!

@lolotus4borderless

6 күн бұрын

@@rcb361blue pearl❤❤❤❤

❤ the heavy steering!!

@axellness

7 күн бұрын

Lift more weights pu55y

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 күн бұрын

Me too

@garetwhitney760

6 күн бұрын

Me too! Feels like a truck 💪

Thank you for the video, I’m also enjoying your podcast has been great.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like it!

I have a p4x, zero issues! Love it!

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Awesome!

Steering on these is awesome, compared to some other options I test drove. The people who disagree probably should invest in a gym membership.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

😂

@jeanclaude7018

4 күн бұрын

Remember, Taco boys now can't even lift their own tailgates now.

this NISSAN truck is GREAT!!!

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Agreed!

@jeanclaude7018

4 күн бұрын

Most NISSAN trucks have been since 1959.

I have a 23 SV long bed. Love it. I agree with everything you said. Thanks.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

Appreciate it!

Test drove a 23 and loved it. Think I'm going to buy it. FUN truck to drive!

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

They're great!

I have a 2023 Pro4x. I installed the OEM Titan # 2016951 aluminum diff cover I think it is from a 2015, made by Spicer, on Ebay for around 110.00 shipped came with the bolts and fill plug. I also used the Lube Locker gasket # LLR-N44D. I have zero leaks and the cover looks really good. You will have to fab a bracket for the brake cable, but that was easy, I went to Home Depot in the lumber deck section got a galvanized small L bracket for 2.00 and trimmed it down and drilled 2 holes, worked great.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Yep, that's the move.

I just got a 24 Frontier and I love it! Gas is so good for being a truck. I got the long bed Crew Cab SV. It’s a beauty to drive 🙏

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

Congrats!

I have had a 2023 Pro-4X for a year now and love it. Thanks for the great review. The Pro-4X did come as a king cab with a 6' bed up until last year and that is what I really wanted to buy, but it was only sold in Canada. That Sucks! I'm guessing it is gone forever now.

@ABullet2Die4

7 күн бұрын

Yeah I really wish we could get a 6ft bed in the US

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, sorry that they changed that. I think it's partially the "offroading" thing makes the breakover angle worse with the long bed, but honestly, I'm sure it's mostly packaging from Nissan to reduce costs and simplify production.

@user-JBT

6 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding The king cab with a 6' bed is the same length and break over angle as a crew cab with a 5' bed. Nissan just won't make the extended cab with a Pro-4X option anymore. I really don't get this because a lot of offroaders would prefer a smaller cab (no back seats), and a larger bed.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

@@user-JBT Gotta be a cost/packaging thing then.

the worst complaint is the small back seat. Really?? don't buy a midsized truck then...right?? Buy a 4 door sedan or a full size truck if rear passenger leg room is important to you. seems stupid to complain about.

@DarkComputer9090

6 күн бұрын

It has 4 doors so people expect the backseat to be useful if no they why even have those 2 extra door. It might not be as spacious as a previous gen tundra which is massive but if a backpack is wider than the seat then that’s probably what they are complaining about. Last time I checked one out I was able to fit 2 car seats back there but I am very short so my seats are closer to the front 🤷🏻‍♂️

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's a midsize truck backseat, so despite the 4 doors, it's not got a ton of space. But, I've had 3 people in the backseat and it's tight, but you can definitely do it. I probably wouldn't drive across the country with 5 passengers, but it's possible, haha.

@fj209

2 күн бұрын

Or maybe manufacturers can simply extend the cabins by 6 to 8 inches. However, they won't do that in order to milk ppl of all their money. The only other option is to buy a full-size pickup, but that costs an extra $15k to 20k. Also, most ppl dont need the power of a half-ton pickup anyways. A midsize truck with about 38" of rear legroom would make a lot of ppl happy.

In Canada for 2022 and 2023 they made a PRO4X King Cab version with a 6ft bed. It is the same overall length as the Crew Cab + 5ft bed. The only sacrifice is the space in the back of the cab is smaller, but there is no offroad sacrifice as it has all the same approach and departure angles. I have this version and I love it. It's great for hauling lots of gear and plenty of room for my wife and I to sleep in the bed. The most common major issues I read about this truck is the e-locker switch goes faulty and grenades the rear diff and it's cheaper for Nissan to replace the entire rear end. This will be very pricy once warranties are up. Another one is the screen on the head unit delaminating and that will also be several thousand dollars once out of warranty (they replace the entire head unit) ... dash and cowl warping and paint peeling are a few other common issues.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

Good info. Thanks!

Very well said!

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 күн бұрын

Thanks!

I've had my 22 S model for a yr and a half, and have been very happy with it. Does everything I need it to do. Most of the complaints you mention are just folks jumping on the bandwagon when they see other people complain. I couldn't care less about "heavy" steering, turning radius, lack of telescopic steering wheel, etc. The rear diff will need to be addressed at some point, but like you, I don't see it as a major concern.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Exactly.

@usnr5950

6 күн бұрын

Well said! I have also a 22 S 4x4. The people complaining need a car not a truck.

@johnnyreb1475

6 күн бұрын

Lubelocker gasket or arb cover problem solved.

@johnnyreb1475

6 күн бұрын

​@@usnr5950do you watch 4WD Adventure, that's what he's got but got a big lift on it. He's still adding to it.

@johnnyreb1475

6 күн бұрын

​@@usnr5950 do you watch 4 W D Adventure he's got one with a big lift.

Loved my loaded Pro-4X in Baja Storm. But I had trans issues and a rear diff whine. It was an 18mo lease, so I didn’t really care too much. But clunking shifts, delayed shifts and a CE light at 2k mi and trans valve body was replaced, but same behavior remained until lease end. Rear diff whine 40-45mph on decel. I never had that addressed. Absolutely loved this truck even with its little quirks/issues.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

That's so strange. You're definitely not the first I've heard, but then I've had my truck for 17K miles and offroaded it for probably half of that time and no whine, no lights, no trans issues. But there must be some percentage that have the issues since I've seen it more than once. Thanks for sharing!

Awesome review The important thing about any steering configuration is THAT it steers. I have the Frontier S 4x4 & I LOVE IT. My advise for some would be, to get what you like and works for you - Me? I want light trails get through the snow functionality over gadgets, electronics and cup holders what I have is exactly what I want a mid-size 4x4 with a V-6. I love Toyota I own 2 a Sienna and Camry. I looked for a Tacoma 4x4 with a 6 cyl which are now unicorns for all intents and purposes. My only other choice would be a Ram which is just too much vehicle for my purposes. It all boils down to preferences and everyone has their very own -

@St.Irenaeus

6 күн бұрын

Agreed! I also love my Frontier S 4x4. Pretty much the perfect midsize truck!

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Yep, they're great for those uses.

Absolutely agree with your assessment on all. None of these are actual problems. I absolutely love my pro 4X and I think nitpicking and comparing to the new turbo 4S with all the new crap there's going to be a lot of interest in the pro 4X in the Nissan and I think people are going to have great luck with it

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Right. Agreed.

I just bought a used 2023 Pro-4x 3 weeks ago. I took it out on the K-Trail in Oklahoma and the only issue I had is clearance. I see a lift in the future. Since I bought this strictly for trailing and camping, it's the right size for me. There are a couple of hills that I have to go up getting to our place in OK that every vehicle I have shoots up to 4000+ rpm if I have the cruise on so that's not a big deal. Since I have to drive 4 hours or more to get to any good trails I wanted something that felt as good on road as it does off, and gets good gas mileage. I am getting about the same mpg as I do in my modified Forester. I did consider an SV king cab but the price for a used base SV was only 2K less than the fully loaded Pro-4x I purchased.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

I felt fancy springing for the Pro-4x until I looked at the difference in prices too. Seemed like a good deal for all the extra features of the Pro-4X plus then I didn't have to add or modify anything as it had everything I wanted.

I have a 24 s 4x4 and absolutly love it

@AllThingsOverlanding

2 күн бұрын

Congrats! They're great trucks.

I have a 2022 Pro-4X and I love it. I have 32K miles on it now, many of them driving from Phoenix, AZ to Homer, AK. And then from Homer, AK through Canada to Montana in January. I had a full U-Haul trailer the whole time both directions and was in 4 Hi the entire way through Canada in January on the Alcan since it's entirely snow and ice covered almost the entire way with plenty of mountain roads. This was right after the polar vortex when everything was around -20 F. It's been flawless. And those seats are magnificent. Also I'm 6"3' and I've never needed a telescopic steering wheel.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

That's an awesome testimonial! Cool to see them do extreme stuff like that. I took mine through the Wyoming BDR last July for 2 straight weeks withonly 2500 miles on the truck and it was awesome throughout that (and those seats were a god send driving 5000 miles in 2 weeks, haha).

I have a 2023 Pro 4x in Glacier white. My first ever brand new vehicle. Bought it in November 2023 and I love the truck. Install an oil catch can, the TSB update for the transmission sorted out the cruise control high shifting.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Good tips! Congrats on the truck!

@RickRatchetTvJames_Bytch

6 күн бұрын

This is probably a stupid question, but was the TSB update covered under warranty?

@joemarchand8313

Күн бұрын

@Blue-moon12: My transmission seems to act up and can be fairly harsh shifting between 20 and 35mph. Did you have that issue, prior to the TSB update? Wondering if the update would fix my '23. Zero issues highway driving, very smooth.

Love my 2022 Pro-X, as you can tell by my pfp. I like the heavy steering and have always been used to it since I owned a 2006 Titan for 8+ years as my first truck. This is my second truck/vehicle, and I never had any issues so far

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

Nice!

Have the forest green 2022 Pro-4X and love it. Super capable of any forest roads and light off-roading here in my neck of Utah. My only complaint is some of the build quality in the cab. Like last weekends camping trip managed to shake loose a plastic channel insert where the rear window slides open. I replaced the diff cover with the ARB one for Dana diffs because the one from factory was leaking. Otherwise, following service notices and recalls, the truck has been perfect.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Nice! I love that color.

If you’re having trouble parking this truck in a parking spot, there’s a good chance it’s lack of driver skill. I’d also imagine you would have the same trouble parking every truck

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Right, :D

Hey, I’m sitting in Zambia right now watching your video. On my 2023 Pro 4x my issues are the drivers seat reclining back after turning the truck off, the radio randomly turning on and one of the USB-C stopped working. All these will be sorted out at the dealer when I return. I’ve had my truck since February and have put 17k miles on it. One trip I drove from Nashville TN to Santa Fe NM and back in 2 days. This is the most comfortable vehicle I’ve ever owned. I had zero aches and pains after driving all day. Zero problems with the truck and I averaged 21 mpg. I guess the only issue that I can’t fix is you really can’t do a proper U-turn because it doesn’t turn sharp enough. Love the truck and would buy again.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Good feedback! I've heard of the seat thing, but never experienced it. Thanks for sharing!

@BroncoManiac777

6 күн бұрын

I realized it was actually my leg hitting the recline button when I would get out of the truck. The longer it took me to get out of the truck, the lower the seat would go 🤣 I am not sure if that is the case for everyone, but that is what happened to me.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

@@BroncoManiac777 That's what I've heard is that somehow people are hitting the power buttons on the side of the seat and that's moving it. I've never had it happen in mine.

@rambling4x4adventures92

6 күн бұрын

I’ll have to pay attention and see if that is what I’m doing. Thanks!

The steering is perfect. Bring a King Cab Pro 4X to the states like they get in Canada.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Agreed!

@user-JBT

6 күн бұрын

It's gone from Canada now too. Sucks, I just don't get Nissan on this one. If they bring it to the U.S. I'll trade in my Pro-4X crew cab for one.

As a guy who love long drives, i love the steering of this truck.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

Me too!

Great video! I don’t own a truck yet but I’m definitely in the market. I saw a few reviewers complain about the front skid plate having too big of a gap? Is that even notable or an issue?

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

I haven't had any issues with it. If you're really going to offroad these trucks, you'll want aftermarket skid plates anyways. If you're mostly hitting forest service roads and want some protection but don't plan to use it much, the stock stuff is nice piece of mind.

@Frenchfry_McFlurry

3 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding wow that simple lol it seems really hard to hate these trucks, idk why they don’t get a better spotlight. Thanks for the info

Love my 24 pro4x. Steering, ride, power, mpg great. Always drove Toyota trucks 35+ yrs. No turbo 4 crap for me.

@AllThingsOverlanding

15 сағат бұрын

Glad to hear it! I think they hit the nail on the head with this truck.

I have a 22 P4X, 85K miles, no issues. Love the steering. It isn’t heavy, it’s feedback. Plus it only feels heavy at slow speed on pavement. Parking, you do gotta plan ahead, cut a little wide. The update for the CC is awesome. Love my cruise now. Works like it should have from the beginning. The complaint I hear is camera resolution. Back up cam is fine, I don’t need it to be 4K. The front cam, would be nice if it were clearer. Fine for parking, but on the trails, sharper would be nice. But steep climbs where all you see is sky out the windshield, the cam does its job.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

All great points. I've tried to use the front camera off road and the resolution is so bad that it's tough to tell a rock from a puddle, haha. Also don't need 4K but just a little better would be nice.

Great looking truck

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

Thanks

Hee for all the camping and frontier videos 🧐

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Let’s goooo!!!

Thanks for your insight Love the looks of Frontier and Drive Train. But I purchased a 24 Ridgeline B/E Because Frontier was just missing so much. Living in S Ga. I needed A/C vents in the rear and Front Ventilated seats, Ridgeline has the most interior room for a Mid-size and also has power fold side mirrors, the Driver seat has more settings and, pass seat also is powered I Love the Frontier but for me, it was missing too much

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 сағат бұрын

No problem! My wife has a Pilot and we really like it. I probably have slightly opposite needs from what you described. I didn't care as much about the options or tech, but more about ruggedness and offroad worthiness. Plus, I had a Frontier previously and a lot of the modifications will transfer over.

I have a 2024 pro x got a great deal on it . The truck has been good I dont have any complaints at all with it

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

Congrats! Mine's been great so far.

I want one may get the SV and add the locker. Very smart.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

Glad it helped!

Took one for a test drive about two months ago, really liked it. I can't remember that I ever used hydraulic steering (oldest car I had was a 1996 Cavalier), but it only took a minute to get used to it; the weight threw me off because I've never had to put the gas down in my sedan as much as I did the Frontier. It should fit into the garage considering it's maybe a tad smaller than a 2014 Silverado, and we crammed that thing in there. It might take a minute to practice parking again but if people can do it in a full-size then I can do it in a midsize (would already have that down except the dealership has a small lot so I wasn't able to practice much). I hope to get a '22 model by the end of the year (I want to improve my credit a bit more for a better rate even though it's already good, because why not try for a better rate?). Given that the ones in my area are ~$40k, and my annual income can't easily cover that, I'm thinking to either get lucky on a sale or lease it and then finance later. I'm trying to be as smart as possible since I can't afford to screw this up, and hopefully once all is said and done I'll have a forever vehicle.

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

Sounds like a solid plan! Good luck!

I like the steering on my 2024 pro. Something about it feels strong 😊

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

I like it too

My truck has a hard life and I’ve had zero issues with the truck (that wasn’t self inflicted). It’s as solid as they come..

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 күн бұрын

I’ve seen you beat in yours so I believe ya, 😀.

@jmathre44

7 күн бұрын

I have the red alert S just like you, and I've been super happy with it. It does what I need it to do.

I thought I would add another comment. I just wanted to say thank you for your videos on the newly designed Frontier and thanks for answering my questions last year, which helped me a lot to find the one that I purchased. You post great information about our trucks.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

That’s awesome! Thanks so much for the kind words and glad the info is helpful!

i am happy so far with the sv and diff cover move the vent

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Nice

Jason, get that TSB done ASAP. It makes the transmission so much better. Not only the cruise control. Everything including gas mileage

@MrOri

7 күн бұрын

My transmission got worse after the update. And it was perfect before. I did the update because of the cruise control. Worst part it didn't change it. Still shift down like a mad man.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

I'll call the dealer this week, :D.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

I'll get mine done and do an update in a few months to report back on what it does for my truck.

100% agree with Fletch about the steering. Heavy steering was what I had on my '69 &' 78 Chevy C-10's and 65 Mustang which all had manual steering. Man up America! Don't be a wuss.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

SO many complaints and I'm like "What are you talking about?!" :D

My 24 pro x feels solid. Super truck like. V6 kicks 4 banger turbo. I don’t care about mpg

@Scroll_Lock

7 күн бұрын

24 Ford Ranger 4x4 - 20-24 mpg 24 Colorado 4x4 - 19-23 mpg 24 Tacoma 4x4 - 20-23 mpg 24 Frontier Pro4x - 18-22 mpg I don't think you lost anything but the potential longevity problems of a turbo-4.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Good points!

@RickRatchetTvJames_Bytch

6 күн бұрын

Most '24 Pro-4x gets 24-25 mpg, which is better than advertised. So, I cannot complain

I have a 2023 pro4x. Got it new it has everything offered on it my Nissan leather sun roof fender tech package everything I gave 41,500 before taxes. No other brand came close to that price i love it. Plus it'll be on the road when ford Chevy in a junk yard.

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

Wow, that's a great deal!

@dennyhobbs6977

3 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding I had to travel little over 500 miles to get it. Gotta look to find the best deals.

I test drove a 2024 frontier pro4x the other day and the first thing that got me was the steering. I was like whoooaaa. But I actually liked it

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

It's nice once you get used to it, I think.

I too find Nissans fun to drive. It’s a subjective intangible but it’s also real!🤷‍♀️ Granted, until my 2024 Pro4x they’ve all been manual transmissions which enhanced the driving experience. Been driving Nissans for 40 years. And take granted that you get in, start it, and it goes. Every time.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

Love this and agree totally!

I have a 2020 Ranger and have been shopping for a Frontier. I’ve test drove a few and didn’t notice anything about the steering, but the brakes are definitely heavier than my Ranger. Almost ran a stop sign on my first test drive. Once I got the feel it was fine, but it was immediately obvious on every test drive. Otherwise I really like the truck and plan to get one once I find the right deal.

@AllThingsOverlanding

2 күн бұрын

Nice! I'm sure you'll find a good deal. Sounds like the market is kind of flooded with these trucks now, unlike when I bought mine for basically sticker a little over a year ago, haha.

I have my first Nissan 2024 pro 4x same color as yours boulder gray I put a bed cover on it I love mine so far but I only have 1200 miles so a long ways to go

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Nice! The color is growing on me and I like it a lot now.

I am the owner of a 2001 Toyota tundra SR5 V6 2 Wheel Dr. truck. It is still to this day, my daily driver. I will never sell it, but I am looking to get another truck as well. You cannot go wrong with this Nissan pro 4X.it very well could be the last reliable midsize truck we ever see

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

Agree with you!

Whats your take on the Rust issues some people have been saying they are experiencing?

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

No rust for me on this truck or my last Frontier (08 with 218K). I did have some rust on my 05 Xterra in the rear wheel wells, but it was also almost 20 years old and I live in the Midwest, so that wasn't surprising. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Cruise control fix is nice. Get that done at the dealership.

@AllThingsOverlanding

15 сағат бұрын

Will do!

I have a 5th gen Ram, I love it but the only thing I miss in my 4th gen is the steering. My 5th generation is too light and over assisted.. Love that Nissan , It would be my first choice in the midsize category

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Right? I always liked the weighted feel of truck steering personally.

I’m loving mine it’s a good honest truck, it’s what I wanted my Tacoma to be.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Agree on it being a simple, solid truck!

I got the 2020 pro4x I'm wondering if I have the same parts as you do like the rear dif.

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

Pretty sure the engine, trans, diff, etc. is all the same.

For anyone who hates their new frontier ill trade ya my truck for yours lol

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Haha

What type of tires do you have on that!!? It doesn’t look like the stock hankoks that came on my 23 pro4x !? I might have to get those tires!

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

They're really great. They are Kenda Klever RT's in 285/70R17. I've got a video I'm editing that will be coming out in the next couple of weeks that talks about what I had to do to get them to fit without rubbing (not bad but requires a little bit of light cutting).

I would need the 6' bed of the SV, and I had been wondering if the locker could be retrofitted. Do you know if it's set up with wiring to plug and play, or do you need to add your own wiring?

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

I don't know for sure, but I would assume you'd have to run your own wires and switch.

@jeanclaude7018

4 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding That's what I'd think, unless they run a universal harness in all of them to keep it simple. Probably could get the factory switch and snap it into the dash. The pro-x 2wd could benefit too. Nissan should offer the locker as a nismo conversion or a factory option to order.

Does it have a rear window defroster? Do you really need it ? Looking at buying a used one now prices are great

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Mine does not have a rear window defroster. It has a sliding rear window, but it's not powered so I don't use it much. I also have a roof top tent that hangs over my cab so it basically acts as a roof and nothing gets on the rear window to defrost.

I had a 98 4Runner when i was in highschool and the power steering went out on it and i never got it fixed. So the hydrologic steering feels great to me especially since ive gone almost a full year without power steering before lol. I have a 2012 sv king cab which i got because i needed a longer bed and i just swapped the axle for a m226 off a pro4x and wired up the locker and couldn't be happier i did all the work myself though i cant stand getting ripped off by shops.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Haha, it probably feels like a sports car.

@thedude828-ed2nn

6 күн бұрын

​@@AllThingsOverlandingyes it does I remember going around sharp turns in that thing I literally was more tired driving that thing than being in my weight training class.😂😂😂

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

@@thedude828-ed2nn 😂😂

You are a strong man. Of course the steering is just fine! I am also a strong man and loved my older Hardbody SEV6. My wife needs to be able to park the truck in tight quarters like Costco. We are in our 70s and are waiting for the 2025s to be released. Hydraulic steering is a deal breaker ever if we pay more for the Tacoma trd off road trim. Only if electric steering is available will we consider the Frontier top trim level.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Makes sense to me. I'm more talking about young people that are simply complaining about it, but somehow bought the truck anyways. :D

@jeanclaude7018

4 күн бұрын

My goodness, how did America survive with that horrible hydro steering for so many decades? My old F150 steered with one finger. My 87 Hardbody with original hydro PS steers easy after nearly 40 years. Why when some complex new gizmo becomes available is it suddenly a "must have?"

What lift kit or leveling kit are you using?

@AllThingsOverlanding

Күн бұрын

All Dogs Offroad RC Killa kit with a longer shackle in the rear. Here's a vid I made that walks through the whole thing: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6auj5Wmpb3gj5M.html

I'm a big fan of the steering...as someone who has owned many trucks over the years, with both hydraulic and electric steering, I can tell you first hand that over assisted steering of either type is way worse than a slightly heavy feel. As far as having a manual...the only vehicles I've ever wanted a manual in were sports cars and muscle cars. Never once have I driven a manual 4x4 (I've owned a couple) and said to myself I was glad I had it instead of an auto. There might be 1 or 2 scenarios where having a manual in a truck is a benefit...the rest of the time it just makes drinking coffee on a cold morning a pain in the ass.

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

I'm with you on the manual in my 4x4's. I also prefer the auto for that application. Now give me a Z with a manual any day and I'm a happy camper, :D.

I have a vehicle with telescope steering, it's the only one I've ever had with that feature, I forget it even has it. Set and forget. Back seat area, isn't any smaller than the Taco, Ranger etc. I own a 2024 Pro 4x, I think of the old trucking song "I need 40 acres to turn this thing around" 😂. It is what it is. Yeah the 9 speed trans has some low end gearing, when you slow down it means less braking and low speeds when needing to go slow.

@AllThingsOverlanding

11 сағат бұрын

Agreed, :D.

Nissan has kept their trucks more traditional and less techy and its proving to be their advantages vs all the competition.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Agreed.

I love the heavy steering wheel, it doesn't bounce when u hit the path hole or bumps on the road, like other light weight steering wheel...🤣

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

Yep

I want to be able to sit comfortably and be able to read the speedometer without shifting my head. Every newer vehicle seems to put it in line of sight with the steering wheel. Is there a Heads Up Display you recommend?

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Never thought about that. Is there a way to get the combo of your seat and steering wheel in a spot where you can see better?

@stevenfrisch7205

4 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlanding No and that goes for every vehicle I've driven for about 20 years, except my 2014 Jeep GC on the right digital setting. Either the steering wheel needs to be too high or the seat needs to be too low. I'm 5'11 and fit so it's doubtful I'm the only person with this bad experience.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

@@stevenfrisch7205 sorry, good luck finding one that works!

I had the front skid plate bolts cross threaded that others have mentioned. I had two dealership oil changes and then discovered it when I did my own change a few weeks ago. 23 Pro 4X, 12,000 miles. I don’t know if it was factory or dealer screw up

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Ugh, likely dealer screw up. I don't let dealerships touch my vehicles anymore because I had problem after problem back in the day when I had a 350Z so I just started doing my own oil changes and no problems since.

@DEEZEEMTB

5 күн бұрын

99% chance it was the knuckle draggers at the dealer. Also the chain oil change places have been a nightmare for me over the years.

i mean i have a old 99 sonoma, and all the problems dont sound bad at all compared to what i have now.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

I bet, haha

My biggest complaint is the 5 foot bed on my 2022 pro4x.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, you pretty much just have to buy the SV or lower and deal with some lack of features in exchange in the current options from Nissan.

I got a 22 p4x about 6 months ago. I love it, first truck I've owned. I love it. Steering door feel stiff, but I'm used to it now. My only complaint is the fucking ghost seat. Not sure if it's on the 23 or not, but the seat will just go back to its stock orientation.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

I've heard that but never experienced it. Could you be catching it with you leg when you get out? Or do you think it's doing it on its own?

@sideflop9529

6 күн бұрын

@AllThingsOverlanding there's always that chance. I thought I was at first but I don't have anything in my storage thing so I'm not reaching down there, and I vary rarely slide off the seat getting out.

I liked many aspects of the Frontier, but it doesn't have enough ground clearance for off roading from the factory and I didn't want to put aftermarket suspension on a brand new truck. Now, I'm sure it's sufficient for maintained forest roads and I know Nissan claims 9.5 inches of clearance, but in reality, the Frontier has low "rocker clearance," esp compared to a TRD Off Road Tacoma or even 4Runner. I parked my old TRD Off Road Tacoma next to a Pro 4X Frontier at the dealer and the Tacoma's rocker looked 5-6 inches higher off the ground vs the Frontier

@AllThingsOverlanding

5 күн бұрын

I actually agree with you here. Not sure if it's a packaging thing or a cost savings thing or what, but the fact that it's so low is a bit disappointing. I put on the All Dogs Offroad RC Killa kit which is basically a longer coil spring up front and an add a leaf in the rear and it was inexpensive and easy to install and picked up the truck 1.5-2" and with the addition of 33" tires, I'm up off the ground plenty for my needs. It does suck though that other trucks have so much more ground clearance, haha.

The trans flash increases mpg too.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Nice!

@beexiong2995

6 күн бұрын

Every single frontier mpg test I've seen shows the computer is 2 mpg more than actual calculated mpg at the pump.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

@@beexiong2995 that’s pretty much been my experience.

How about the driver power seat, does it move a little unintentionally? I’ve read on the internet it does. Nissan says it’s the way the driver gets out of the truck. Sounds like a design flaw that Nissan needs to fix. The seat is also 1-1/2 inches narrower to allow for a wider center console I’ve heard. The rear seat is a waste of space, rather have area for storage, wish it was an option. Thanks for the review, the SV fits me better since I’m not an off road driver.

@AllThingsOverlanding

3 күн бұрын

An option would be to remove the backseat. In my 2nd gen Frontier, I did a 60% seat delete and built in a dual battery system and fridge slide back there and it was awesome. I don't have any issues with the seat but I've heard that. Might just be a thing you need to test getting in and out of the truck. If you're buying new and it's an issue (that isn't related to getting in and out) then it should be covered under warranty.

I have a 22 and the three things I've noticed: First, my infotainment sometimes freezes after startup. I'll drive for a few seconds and it locks up (I wonder if it is because it leaves WiFi range). It fixes itself but is strange. I also have the volume dial which must be broken and so far it's been a six months and Nissan doesn't know what they want to do about it. It's minor because I can just use the steering wheel but a little annoying. Second, the turn radius is a little poor and I find that parking is tough to get lined up. In my case, I wonder if it is just because the edges of the hood make it a little hard to see the lines relative to line up, but I also find that if you use the passengers mirror to line up that it will get you lined up wrong. I just use the camera to check and adjust it need be. I'm never not in the spot, just at an angle. Third, I found that when backing up at night the glare from the backup camera on the infotainment made it hard to really see the edge of the lights when backing up using the mirrors. I really had to dim the interior to its almost dimmest setting to help, and I added bright backup lights to my new offroad bumper to really allow me to see.

@MrNavidad

7 күн бұрын

I feel the same with my 2023, I definitely think the hood is the thing that makes parking a bit odd but i been better at parking it now than at first. Had similar issues with the infotainment, even restarted on me once while driving.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

The hood is definitely way bigger than the 2nd gens. It takes some getting used to but I've adapted after a bit. I also love the around view cameras for checking to make sure I'm centered.

With the new tacoma having transmission problems and tundra having engine problems, new frontier looks pretty good 😳. If definitely take a newer Titan too as Ik someone who has 320k on his 2009.

@AllThingsOverlanding

4 күн бұрын

Nice!

Does your truck making clicking sound ,rattling metal for a bit after shut off the engine?

@rambling4x4adventures92

6 күн бұрын

Mine does not do that. I’d have it checked out. Edit: sorry I was thinking it was running. Cooling metal does make a clicking sound.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, that sounds a bit weird. Could just be the sound of cooling metal if the engine is hot?

@Garlander

6 күн бұрын

Yeah that's normal, your exhaust system is cooling off

Currently own a 2016; was looking at a 2024, both Pro 4X. Went camping in the Canadian Rockies, towing a teardrop camper. Was shocked at the mileage. Curious what your “real world” mileage is like.

@AllThingsOverlanding

7 күн бұрын

Before I bumped up to 33’s in was getting about 19 on the highway. After the 33’s I get about 16-17.

@rambling4x4adventures92

6 күн бұрын

I have stock tires and suspension with a go fast camper, fridge, two lithium batteries in the bed and all my camping gear. I still average 21 on highway and 17 in town. I think I’ll add a 2” lift but keep the stock size tires to preserve the gas mileage. I take a lot of long trips so that’s important to me. Hope that helps.

I have just purchased a 2021 Tacoma Trd Offroad with 27k miles for 38.5k usd. I think it’s a better deal than going with a brand new Nissan, but the one big complain for 3rd gen Tacoma has been the gearing and shifting logic, Nissan felt smooth and predictable compared to the Tacoma.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Those are good trucks. That old 3.5 is a great motor but the 6 speed is pretty dated and boring to drive. But, it should be a pretty bullet proof truck hopefully!

@4WDisLife

6 күн бұрын

@@AllThingsOverlandingyessir. I traded in my “over modified” 2020 Tundra with 40k miles to the Tacoma. Both good trucks. Had owned a 2019 Nissan armada for two years and man it was the smoothest truck I ever owned.

I think since the Titan is being discontinued next year this may be my next truck.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's too bad about the Titan, but the Frontier seems to be going strong.

Why do you need to telescoping wheel? Just move your chair forward or back?

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

That's my thought, haha

this is a better alternative than the Gen 4 taco. The Titan is also a better alternative than the Gen 3 Tundra which is getting recalled.

@AllThingsOverlanding

6 күн бұрын

They are great trucks.

Small rear seat?? Have you been in a 24 Taco? I had 5 people comfortably in the frontier heading to a gig. All the equipment in the bed with room to spare.

@AllThingsOverlanding

11 сағат бұрын

Yeah, I don't get it. It's a mid-size truck so it's fine for me.