Sounds like a personal problem. As a veteran I don’t feel bad at all, you screw people over and treat them like shit and wonder why the recruiting numbers are dog shit 😂

@reyesI165

5 ай бұрын

I don’t feel bad either. Spent over 2 years submitting countless RC to AC (Reserve to Active) requests when I was trying to go back to Active Duty. Years after giving up and starting my new dream career I constantly have prior service recruiters blowing up my phone and email

@danielwymer1580

5 ай бұрын

It is why I got out of the Navy after four years, they treat you like shit !! they have no respect for the enlisted personnel !! treat people with respect and dignity, and they will reenlist

@lpg12338

5 ай бұрын

🤣👍

@sithe7577

5 ай бұрын

@@reyesI165 and all the service members they adsepd because they wouldn’t get the COVID vaccine rebuilt their lives by now so coming back is the last thing on their mind 😂

@ottmatl

5 ай бұрын

I will continue to sour the navy for those who want to join. Honorable discharge and no drb/capt masts here

Medical standards are a much bigger issue than ASVAB scores.

@elizabethstokes9452

5 ай бұрын

I agree, my ASVAB score was just ok scored a 43. I got medical waivers and was ready to ship out, then they said to me; time has elapsed can you get an up to date medical blah blah blah..? 😮😡 at this point I’m thinking “does the Navy want me or not?” 3plus years with this back and forth… The Navy says they need people 🙄pssshhhhh 🥱😑 right…..

@alexd4566

5 ай бұрын

Yup. Got rejected for a shoulder dislocation that happened 3 years prior. I could appeal but the whole procedure would take 2 months. The fact that I had been doing MMA for 2 years AFTER my dislocation apparently wasn’t convincing enough that my shoulder was fine.

@elizabethstokes9452

5 ай бұрын

@@alexd4566 I climb cell towers for living, and you doing MMA, we would run circles around the new younger recruits. The Navy needs to start going through all their old paperwork of past potential recruits and get those people in the military.

@abyssusthechicken

5 ай бұрын

Dude a 43 is extremely low. They're probably sitting there going "so, they're not well-educated AND they want us to cover medical expenses?" You've got better chances convincing a bear to not eat meat then getting in to the service. Offense, or no offense, whatever your choose.@@elizabethstokes9452

@abyssusthechicken

5 ай бұрын

Guy doesn't understand what dislocations can do to your health. Once it's popped out the first time, it's always going to be easier every time after. Especially when you're aging with every year. Not a safe bet! And you're doing mma. You basically told them you've been injured and you're already in the process of injuring your self more by learning combativs from some dude who took classes 30+ years ago. The margin of error on your part is huge.@@alexd4566

Good. Screw the military I was denied Red Cross leave for my grandmas funeral while doing nothing state side.

@user-bu3zz2po6n

5 ай бұрын

AWOL would be justified

@Basement811

5 ай бұрын

We’re you in the marines

@poolee77

5 ай бұрын

@@Basement811 yes

@xXJOEVXx

5 ай бұрын

Dude same

@DapperSapper515

4 ай бұрын

I was denied leave for my own wedding…

So similar in Belgium. The military is bleeding dry. I applied for a legal job (officer position) and got medically rejected for a shoulder dislocation that happened 3 years prior. They told me my shoulder would cause issues in bootcamp, even though I was in perfect condition and had been doing MMA for 2 years. Now years later, I keep receiving emails from recruiters asking me to reapply. No thanks. Good luck filling in those 2500 vacant positions every year.

@checkoutmyyoutubepage

3 ай бұрын

Smart guy.

@urofan

3 ай бұрын

They are always telling people with disabilities that they need to get jobs, but they don't want them to join the military.

@overdrive7349

2 ай бұрын

What a bunch of stingy asses.

@Mike-br8zt

2 ай бұрын

Does the language situation cause problems in recruitment or do you train with people who speak your language (Dutch/French)?

@alexd4566

2 ай бұрын

@@Mike-br8zt All troops need to have a decent understanding of both Dutch and French. Language tests are part of of the selection phase and take 3 hours total. Pretty tough if you don’t prepare well.

How to fix recruiting and retention: -Stop treating lower enlisted like subhuman shit. -stop sending people of one rating to do a completely different job from theirs (S2, ER09)

@NicholasAdamDemonte

5 ай бұрын

-Stop anti-whiteism.

@robot5546

5 ай бұрын

And get rid of the bad officers

@Lonovavir

4 ай бұрын

I'm a 39 year old American and am scared that some branches of our military now allow 41 year olds to enlist (even if that's for support units). 39 used to be the last year you could enlist. How soon until 45 year olds can enlist?

@underratedcritic1983

4 ай бұрын

@@Lonovavir I think age isn't or shouldn't be such a deal breaker. I'm 40, and can out-PT most active duty 30 year olds. Only thing I can't do is the Marine Corp 3 mile run test. I can swim, but not as well as a PJ or CCT. There's that 42 year old E7 who graduated from Ranger school.

@SB0083

2 ай бұрын

​@@LonovavirI knew someone that age who got in, but it's highly dependent on what the MOS is.

They had a great opportunity to retain the GWOT troops and all that experience but decided to treat them like shit instead. Some real foresight in Military "leadership."

@GoonyMclinux

5 ай бұрын

True, they crap on everyone and then wonder why they don't want to stay in.

@AlwaysFknSalty

5 ай бұрын

Yup. Happened to me. I was 2006 - 22. They wanted us out. Now they got it.

@Watk72

5 ай бұрын

@@AlwaysFknSalty hell during the time frame 06 to 2015 if you were in anyway shape or form not combat deployable for any reason you were gone within 30 days in Marine Corps.

@scotteric8711

5 ай бұрын

​@@AlwaysFknSalty I'll never forget in Feb '22 Lloyd Austin said we were all extremists.. Little did he know he was now coaching an extreme sports team and didn't know how to use it.. OIR/OFS 16-18.

@solosix3991

5 ай бұрын

​@@AlwaysFknSaltySAME! NEVER looked back. Will never let my children join. It's a waste of time and talent.

As a veteran, when asked I completely discourage people from the military. I explain that too many military leadership types have screwed me over and smiled while doing so (actually caught them grinning while doing so)

@Mega_Maybit

4 ай бұрын

Hey man, I appreciate your service and god bless. Sucks those guys screwed you over, I feel that. But hey, someone’s gotta stay in or go in with a new perspective to make a difference

@TheRaininghope

3 ай бұрын

Sadly it’s pretty much past making a difference within.

@Mega_Maybit

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRaininghope with attitude like that, we’re doomed.

@Mega_Maybit

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRaininghope there is still plenty of opportunity to make change. Don’t give up hope

@atlashums

2 ай бұрын

Big facts.

“It’s sad that you’re getting out, you would’ve made a good chief” was the last words my leadership told me and I was no where close to that rank. It shows they don’t value the people they should

@carlsagan2607

4 ай бұрын

No civilian job will treat you any different

@Wandering_desert_guy

4 ай бұрын

@@carlsagan2607recruiter 🫵

@ChangYu-wi4ez

2 ай бұрын

A civilian job you can quit anytime. Military is years long term contracts. Everyone’s replaceable, no matter how good you are.

@themelonn6313

Ай бұрын

Lol sure... whatever you say pal.

@AmericanMight

Ай бұрын

It sounds like he was just giving you a compliment, dude.. no offense, but it sounds like you're the one making the assumption he doesnt care about them.. just sayin.

They're making it way harder to claim VA disability compensation. To all youngsters reading this, do not join unless you really have to. It isn't worth it anymore these days.

@unc1221

5 ай бұрын

😂. Yes sir/maam

@MrCuddleBear1

5 ай бұрын

What do I even do? I’m in 2nd year of college, majored in elementary education, and the more I do it the less I love it. I hear there’s so many benefits from the USAF, but I’m not in rotc, so my degree and time in college will not benefit me. But I don’t have much going on career wise in my life. What do you think?

@unc1221

5 ай бұрын

@@MrCuddleBear1 bro how you fck up in this day and age?😂 Redpill is everywhere regardless of your parents failed you. We told you not to go to college. Plus, you don’t even need a degree to teach! Either switch to Engineering and start over or drop out and go to trade school.

@Kryll2k

5 ай бұрын

honestly if its the USAF id say its worth but any other branch prolly not@@MrCuddleBear1

@Basement811

5 ай бұрын

@@MrCuddleBear1change ur major

Simple explanation: 1) no major conflict: high standards, small military 2) major conflict on the horizon: major drop in standards 3) active conflict: *knock knock* you're in the army now

@thequeenofbattle1555

5 ай бұрын

Wtf is a Milotary?

@kdaltex

5 ай бұрын

@@thequeenofbattle1555 well its the armed forces of the Milo chocolate milk brand.

@ranvorkvartec7358

5 ай бұрын

​@@kdaltexwith the amount of money corps have. This would not surprise me 😂

@thequeenofbattle1555

5 ай бұрын

@@kdaltex 😆

@DavidLLambertmobile

5 ай бұрын

Cough MacNamera Morons 🤪 cough cough ....

I was recruiting when genesis came out. They had to cancel the program temporarily because the entire Marine Corps missed its recruiting quotas at that time.

@A_Mind_For_Change

Ай бұрын

Genesis is going to be the death of enlistment at this rate. I was appalled at the stats they gave me at MEPs that 91% of people are disqualified (me included). Trying to get waivers now, but who knows if that will ever happen

@I_S_Chew

7 күн бұрын

At first I thought “Genesis” was an age based dig on yourself 😂 I was gonna tell you that I was in the Navy when Captain Crunch was an Ensign 🤣 Anyway; carry on and godspeed

@A_Mind_For_Change

7 күн бұрын

@@I_S_Chew I wish I could crack jokes at the state of affairs today lol

They have no problem getting officers. Why? Pay.

@robot5546

5 ай бұрын

And respectable living conditions

@bobcobb158

5 ай бұрын

officer is the way to go, for sure.

@Icarusdecending82

5 ай бұрын

@@bobcobb158 and that's why people should never enlist.

@foxtrotzekeyy

2 ай бұрын

This is the reason why I want to get into an AFROTC plan since I made the mistake of enlisting. Hopefully I can earn my way into it, I'd probably feel much more happier that way

@vincentalakija5515

16 күн бұрын

​@Icarusdecending82 Does the Navy need officers or not? I'm thinking if commissioning as an officer

Back in May of '01, I enlisted in the ANG without a diploma or GED. Got it about a year after enlisting. Did 6 years and punched out, but ended up getting my BS and two MS degrees since. It really is up to the servicemember whether the lack of a diploma or GED will hold them back or not.

@CRAZYHORSE19682003

5 ай бұрын

You make a great point, having diplomas or degrees is not a reliable way to measure intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I have ever known had Masters Degrees.

@GabrielMartinez-zu6li

5 ай бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better myself👌🏽

@Sevenspent

5 ай бұрын

I always said the military is a good way to get outta your moms house for those who can't do it on their own. It doesn't work for everyone but hopefully you learn enough or use the system enough to advance your life in a better direction. Good on you man.

@aeromtb2468

5 ай бұрын

way to take advantage of opportunities.

@richardrichard5319

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the anecdotal evidence!

Considering how shitty American public schools are nowadays, I really don't believe it's lowering standards.

@EckRD

4 ай бұрын

The standards were never the issue. A lot of troops come from broken families and only had a GED or HS diploma that I know from exp. Fast forward, they all have Master Degrees( Nurse, computer science, engineering). 😂 When we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, waivers were given out like candies. During GWOT, the standards and regulation weren't enforced. Folks were covering up dirt 🤨 and problems swept under the rug. The military wouldn't be in this predicament if we only had stayed in those countries for 5 years max.

@marcmeinzer8859

3 ай бұрын

The main reason American public schools are shitty is because they stopped flunking the idiots out over half a century ago. I’ve both taught and served in the navy. Many jobs even on submarines could be performed by chimpanzees in my opinion. Sailors can be so dumb that they think anyone who reads for pleasure is obviously queer. So what good does their shit diploma from some rural public school really mean? Probably even less than a GED where you at least have to pass a standardized test while being observed to prevent cheating.

I was in the Navy Reserve for four years. Everything was jacked up! My flight to Oxnard from LAX was never booked, all Petty Officers were treated like the sailors from boot camp in A School, constantly bullied by LPOs because they couldn't plan ahead, retaliation for reporting a sexual assault by a chief on an E3, and just overall low morale. In the Navy, businesse as usual

I think my 7 yo son broke it down the best. He said he wanted to be a soldier because it's an all boys club and girls aren't allowed, I told him actually girls can join and he said " nevermind I don't want to be a soldier now."

@scotthearts9634

5 ай бұрын

Damnnn... 😅

@abyssusthechicken

5 ай бұрын

Yeah a seven year old makes really insightful observations.......you're letting your kid back your biases instead of backing your own. A seven year old isn't convincing anyone except other seven year olds and people who are seven in the head xD I get where you're coming from, but wow..........this is not a strong argument at all. And as a joke, this is very, very low-hanging fruit. Do better.

@357_SWAGNUM_MAGA_X

5 ай бұрын

​@@abyssusthechickenLOL YOU MAD BRO ?

@sirwilliamhowell

5 ай бұрын

​@abyssusthechicken easy high estrogen male.

@piepolay2343

5 ай бұрын

@@357_SWAGNUM_MAGA_X Here's the other seven year old that kid convinced.

who would have thought that actively oppressed and demonizing the people who love the country then teaching the last 3 generation to hate their own country will lead to this.

@genericscout5408

5 ай бұрын

The actual troops are the ones oppressing and demonizing the country. Sometimes literally as agents of the state. The only good news is that you get paid.

@Jughandler12

5 ай бұрын

Pretty much.

@theguybehindyou4762

5 ай бұрын

Pissing away 20 years of hard fought gains by those who did enlist certainly didn't help. Who is to say that won't happen next time?

@cecilhockaday2286

5 ай бұрын

So I should send my kids overseas to fight for who ask nothing to do with the country. People are waking up. They're tired of fighting me senseless wars for the rich so the rich can get richer. Has nothing to do with patriotic I'm not sending my kid nowhere. I am not going nowhere to fight for A bunch of. Rich sons of b******

@BeefCake1012

4 ай бұрын

No one is teaching anyone to hate America… not exactly the flex you think it is there homie. Quit pretending 1% of “Woke Folk” out there that make current a-typical buzzword headlines on Fox News constitute the majority of the last three generations of Americans. If you think America’s fought a war for anything but oil, corporate interests, the military industrial complex and greedy cowardly politicians since Korea you’re on some strong stuff.

I'd say the military, including the State Department, has a massive toxic leadership problem. Even the navy has ordered people to suffer so much that they committed suicide. One of those incidents was an admiral that forced sailors to be housed on a ship in dry dock as it was being repaired 24 hours a day. As a result seven sailors committed suicide while serving on the USS George Washington. It required a massive navy investigation to realize that having those sailors there was a bad idea. Four other sailors at a different repair facility died from suicide. As many sailors die from suicide each year that are needed to man a frigate. Also the rate of desertions in the navy has doubled. This is what the young people see.

@honkhonk8009

5 ай бұрын

dying from actual battle dont sound too bad, but dying from suicide??? If the media was to advertise that story to the extent it should, recruitment figures will plummet beyond recognition.

@rasbot2

4 ай бұрын

19 years old autistic male at Navy Great Lakes ILLINOIS tried to commit suicide last week.

I dropped out of High School and joined the Navy at 17 years old. It was a minority enlistment and my mother had to sign the papers allowing me to join. Over the next 10 years of active duty I obtained a GED, Adult High School Diploma and a 2 year Associates Degree from a Community College. I advanced through the ranks to E-6 (First Class PO) and was promoted to a Chief Petty Officer in the USNR. I continued upper level college course work and graduated with a Bachelor's Degree. In addition, I completed Graduate level studies. So here's the point, the Navy took a chance on this High School drop out and it worked out exceedingly well for me and the Navy. So kudos to VADM Cheeseman for expanding the pool of applicants to include those that do not have a High School Diploma or GED.

@brianmurray1395

19 күн бұрын

THAT WAS THEN! Today they are looking to plug holes and as well have field fodder.

@warrenlewis3977

15 күн бұрын

So enlist people who can barely read...smh

@warrenlewis3977

15 күн бұрын

​@@brianmurray1395Are you a vet Brian?

@DarkMessiahh

7 күн бұрын

​@warrenlewis3977 Have you ever taken an ASVAB? I guess not. People with a high school diploma struggle to get a 50 on the ASVAB. The ASVAB ( for the most part ) is a variety of topics that you learn in high school. If someone without a GED can perform at the same level ( or even better ) than a high-school graduate, then what's the problem?

@warrenlewis3977

7 күн бұрын

@@DarkMessiahh "If they can perform...". We don't need people who can barely read in the Service not even in the Infantry. As far as the ASVAB is concerned I took it in 1989 probably before you were born.

MEPS is a huge issue along with Genesis. ASVAB is the least of their concerns.

Do more Drag shows Admiral. That'll do it. And don't forget Emma and her two moms.

@Kryll2k

5 ай бұрын

LOL

@rickysampson8759

5 ай бұрын

Send all democrats to the military including women and their children

@supremelyghost

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@americanedokko2782

5 ай бұрын

NO 💩. Bunch of idiots - Sorry I joined the Navy. Worst experience of my life, but got my Honorable DD214 and a V.A. pension to make my time count.

@kitzbhuel2059

5 ай бұрын

yeah man, lets discourage entire groups of people from joining. that'll fix the recruiting crisis. If they meet standards, they meet standards. Get over yourself.

The navy rejected my application because of a nasal surgery and IBS symptoms when I was a teenager lmao i had a 98 on the ASVAB the military reaps what they sow and they deserve the recruit issues, thanks GENISIS system!

@Flintlock1972

5 ай бұрын

It is good to see someone mention GENISIS. I spoke to the local Navy Recruiter, as a 31-year retired Army Veteran, to see how being so close to an Air Force and Army base affects their ability to recruit Sailors. He told me that his recruiting area recruiters put 300 prospects onto the floor at MEPS, and only 20 made it through the GENISIS screening. That is a huge issue for recruiting.

@illuminati7767

5 ай бұрын

Sounding mighty salty lol

@MASKEDMONKEY18

5 ай бұрын

@@illuminati7767 nah it's all good, im almost done with my degree and I've got much more profitable jobs lined up. I wanted to join the navy cause it sounded interesting and I would have traded 4 years for a security clearance. Navy just wasted several months of my time to turn me down and now I constantly hear that they're hurting on recruits yet they do it to themselves.

@kennytorres5233

5 ай бұрын

You shouldve lied about anything medical you’ve went through that doesn’t currently impact you of physically doing the job. Like if you had broken bones don’t tell them that because it’s not affecting you now you get where I’m coming from ? Because they have no way of finding out and if they do it’s a HIPPA violation and you can sue the government

@AlwaysFknSalty

5 ай бұрын

​@@kennytorres5233I used to be a recruiter.... This is true.

THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR GED BEFORE THEY GO TO BOOTCAMP, I am a navy recruiter, they haven’t lowered the standards for anything, you are allowed to go to MEPs and pick a job without a diploma or GED but must get one before you go to BOOTCAMP. If they don’t they are dropped from the program and shown the door. Like so others can see 👍

@mikecude4167

5 ай бұрын

I tried to John the NAVY last year. Prior service, they said 4 dependents was too much…

@CHIMERK

5 ай бұрын

I heard you could get one while in bootcamp

@Rickyboricky

5 ай бұрын

Ok,sitrep. I'm prior service USN PR2. I also have a class A CDL. I can wrench on gas engines, solder electrical circuits, cook better than my wife, and I have small-arms experience. I was loading B-61 nucweps on the deck of the Enterprise at 19..... ✌️

@briang.7206

4 ай бұрын

Problem is the higher ups don't care about morale..and that's important if you want to retain sailors. Our CPO stated letting leave early for liberty. Then some higher up put a stop to it made us stay until 4:00 and we had to look busy. Morale then went downhill.

@Sigurther

4 ай бұрын

@@mikecude4167 don't be surprised if they call you back, they're getting desperate.

In 2022 I was ghosted by 5 navy recruiters before I finally reached out to the Army and was shipped to basic two weeks later :x They need to look into how to incentive recruiters so that they're wanting to get people into the service honestly

Someone forgot to tell MEPS about the recruiting crisis

@scubasteveop3594

5 ай бұрын

Truth! Worst recruiting hurdle there is. Nothing like a kid taking to long to answer a question and getting kicked out to really bring home the point

@Bryce911

5 ай бұрын

@@scubasteveop3594whatever you do don’t tell them you had asthma in kindergarten cause apparently they’ll send u home and need a waiver.

@bobcobb158

5 ай бұрын

get rid of genesis, and the ability to DQ people over menial shit from their past that doesn't matter, and watch the recruiting crisis start to disappear overnight. The military was doing just fine before genesis.

@robertperez4992

5 ай бұрын

This is gold solid!!!

@kravkik7930

4 ай бұрын

M.E.P.S. aka the Military Entrance Prevention Station

They want us to live up to the highest military standards while lowering their standards. They need to update the UCMJ to reflect this. I’ve seen people get kicked out for the smallest things. i.e. failed room inspection, text messages, etc. The military impede so much unto an individual life that it is unbearable. Think about when you put in leave (vacation time) and you have to put in all the details you want to do on your day off. Doesn’t sound crazy, until you apply that to the civilian sector.

@ghostx141xgaming5

5 ай бұрын

imagine being kicked out over an anonymous statement made by a jealous 20 yr old young sailor saying you planned “to fly your cousins out and get your baby mothers friend (whos in the same command, same female whos been reporting me and harrassing me a year and 5 months!) to get her jumped ( while on deployment i was going to fly my cousins out ) they said it was true based off past chits of me defending myself against domestic violence rumors that i proved false in civilian court and WON.. on top of that they slapped serious offense with honorable conditions on dd214.. i fought hard for honorable.. adsep during deployment was the best thing that ever happened to me.. met my now fiance and getting into another field.. and dd214 should be able to be fixed soon, and boy i am going to get a good defamation case started, the dame dd214 got my job offer from boeing denied… The Navy was the worst mistake of my entire life, and the young sailor was friends with the girl who harrased me boyfriend.. on top of this a new chief used my domestic violence stuff to treat me like a threat and also lied and i cauvht him lying to a E8 and E9 twice and they ignored it.. Run

@PureSinaatraa

5 ай бұрын

I knew someone who almost got kicked out because of a singular failed room inspection. I helped him write his appeal letter and luckily his NJP was overturned. Everyone liked him except the higher ups and they had a fit when it got dropped. Deck department can be very toxic at times

@scotteric8711

5 ай бұрын

It comes down to accurate investigations. The Army is bad too. The minute you report or expose a NCO or Officer who outranks you, everyone is afraid to prosecute them. Then you get counseled and harassed every week until you leave the unit. I have lost respect for current leadership. We are dealing with the last generation of non-selects.

@justinhalloran5769

5 ай бұрын

In regards to the harassment case I know a different situation of harassment I won't go into details but if you get any other sailors from your unit to write a statement it will do wonders I wrote a statement for a female friend I served with and hers was overturned in 6 mo of me a 2 other soldier statements

@ghostx141xgaming5

5 ай бұрын

@@justinhalloran5769 i got a job offer from boeing and because it said “serious offense” on dd214 it was withdrawn after 2 months of waiting… even with providing court documents with civilians, and military documents off he say she say, character statements from females and males, statements from big dudes in the command who respected me and told me she tried getting them to hurt me and jump me, everything IGNORED.. and I was known as 1 of the hardest workers ever in the command despite road blocks and treatment, now a rumor got back to me from the young guy that the command “threatened him” to write a statement or coerced him.. amazing.. that branch is a lost cause

They reject everybody at MEPS…

Good, they get what they deserve. I was denied leave for my own wedding… not once, not twice… THREE TIMES! Had to rearrange my wedding three times for the Army while doing nothing on state side. Treat your SM’s like crap, you’ll get nobody to reenlist or join. 🤷🏻‍♂️

My son is Navy E.O.D. Not so safe but he loves every moment of it!

@kermitthecrog7262

5 ай бұрын

EOD guys are awesome. I’m a Seabee and have worked with them numerous times. Great guys. 🙂❤️

@PureSinaatraa

5 ай бұрын

I was sent on a working party while at TPU to Coronado to help out the EOD guys. We show up and the EOD are playing bumper cars with the bomb diffuser robots 😂

@jthencl

5 ай бұрын

Got to have big brass balls to work on something that can explode at any time

@AgentClaytonWebb

4 ай бұрын

Brave guy to do EOD, thank you!

@azmaddog6

4 ай бұрын

@@AgentClaytonWebb A proud moment as a father pinning on the "Crab" he worked so hard to earn.

They won’t improve wages and work conditions. So this is the next logical option.

@troyguenther7572

Ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. All vets know that the military is lying. It isn't standards, it's the terrible pay and downright inhumane standard of living.

As someone who enlisted to go to the Navy, pigment dispersion syndrome got me medically discharged I had college credit. So once I was discharged I was E3. The recruiting issue largely is on them.

I got a medical discharge from the navy but the admiral says he will take anyone 😂😂

I graduated with a 2.3gpa from high school. I was about to drop out. I scored a 92 on the ASVAB.

@Kervensthekid

5 ай бұрын

You’re smart eshi you was letting bad influence hold u back huh

@agamnon2619

5 ай бұрын

I did drop out and still got low 70’s on the ASVAB.

@acekhmer

5 ай бұрын

Any tips taking the asvab in less than a month

@bobcobb158

5 ай бұрын

@@acekhmer theres plenty of asvab study guides online/youtube. Also practice tests you can take online. I took the practice tests over and over for about a week or two and I managed to score a 98, which gave me access to literally any job I wanted in the military.

@DolphinKingDoIt

5 ай бұрын

I mean like 06Awake says you either got it or you don't. I got a 2.3 gpa here as well and was even in special ed classes but I still got a 92 on my asvab. My buddy who I thought was just as smart as I was, took his and scored under a 60.

Glad to hear they are struggling, back in 2010 a score of 92 wasn't good enough to get me into either rates I wanted so we parted ways. Now they can't even get people to score 50, fuck em

@kdaltex

5 ай бұрын

Adhd medication in 3rd grade? DQ'd! Thanks for wasting 2 years in college rotc kid.

Absolutely love this channel. Way to get the information out there, whilst giving each perspective 👌🏾

I'm sure the vaccination requirements (looking back four years) and extremism focus didn't impact re-enlistment, or even enlistment consideration, by traditionally reliable segments of the population that typically go Navy (or any branch). Oh no, not at all... So here we are. I will prepare my sons for the draft.

@cycologist7069

5 ай бұрын

The vaccination requirements are really not a factor, and no one really believes that, including those who say they do. The overwhelming majority of Sailors complied (as they should). Retention is a main culprit and that spreads to actual recruiting. I work at a C school command we often have Sailors cycling through here going through temporary periods sleeping in their vehicles. In many other cases they are giving false information about PCSing entitlements and that leads to anger. In the fleet, there are simply issues with draconian policies that often punish the victim. An example. One of our instructors went to CO's mast and was busted down a pay grade. Why? He was riding is bike in a designated bike lane and a car swerved over and hit him. Just like that, his chain of command decided he was participating in an unnecessary risky activity.

@RSKLove

5 ай бұрын

Definitely get all the sons ready.

@jonlanigan3439

5 ай бұрын

The only way there can be a draft is for females to be included. Can't draft just one for it to be legal anymore. Most (both genders) would simply not show up.

@Dennis-vm6lu

5 ай бұрын

@@cycologist7069 "as they should" when the covid vaccine religious exemption denials were declared unconstitutional, yeah ok

@ericAblair1903

5 ай бұрын

@@jonlanigan3439I think ALL (make up a number here) genders should be open to a potential draft.

Just bring them in as E-7s . It wouldn’t change current leadership much.

“Cutting edge technology”, like a mop or a fryer😂🤣😂

I recently tried to go into the navy as a commissioned officer with a masters and even called navy recruiting command to try and resolve something that current active duty enlisted and officers never heard of about, and basically got ghosted and never could get my issues resolved and at this point i already physically passed MEPs; and all i need to do is take the officer test. The recruiting system is inept they cant get people to sign up and those who want to get in cannot get in.

@meka1816

Ай бұрын

Same thing happened to me completed everything just to be ghosted after my recruiter missed the first deadline. It's like he didn't care at all and the other recruiters catch an attitude when they get called.

I enlisted after the principal of my high school and I agreed "a formal education isn't for everyone" No diploma, no ged. They put a statement on my enlistment saying they urged me to finish school and made my parents sign it. I was 17 in 1980. First Chief I worked for made me get a GED.

@Basement811

5 ай бұрын

Congrats you finished high school u must be big and proud

US Navy, Air Force, Army vet. Remember, everyone forgets…. It’s not all about your asvab score. Your rate, determines… your fate.

@SuperElite27000000

5 ай бұрын

Your rate can also be seriously fucked with by the brass...

@davidmcinnis154

2 ай бұрын

I can relate. My recruiter told me I should just take whatever job the Air Force wanted. I almost got tricked into EOD, but ended up with Aircraft Maintenance. The job sucked, and I wanted to stay in the military, but I wasn't allowed to cross-train so I left. Now I'm a civilian software engineer and I actually like it less than working on the flight line. You never really know what you like (or don't) until you try it.

I entered the Navy in 1975 to be a Corpsman. I had gone to Job Corps to learn a trade just months before. I was only there for a few months and during that time I took the GED at a local college and passed. We had daily classes in preparation for that test and after 2 months I took it and did pretty well considering nothing I was being taught to prepare for it helped even a little bit. The material was totally different. I had only completed 9th grade and quit school in the 10th grade. I STILL had to take some entrance exams as I remember and did well on most of them for the Navy. Again, my schooling barely had any bearing on those tests. Then, I went to school in San Diego for Hospital Corpschool for only about 10 weeks. I completed my 4 years as a Corpsman mostly on Parris Island and went to college after that. My point is my previous schooling had very, very little to do with what I was actually trained for although math, English, and the ability to read and write helped.

I joined the Navy in 1991 and at that time the navy was the only branch that would take a non high school graduate however you had to go into an apprenticeship program, Fireman Apprentice, Airman Apprentice, Seaman Apprentice or Construction-man apprentice. The required score on the ASVAB at that time was 70%, The Navy offers education and on the job training.

@whitehorse4318

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service Ship mate. Marine Corps 92'-00'. I served proudly alongside some strong sailors. Marines will always fight for sailors. You know why.

@warriorpoet8119

4 ай бұрын

@@whitehorse4318 Thanks for your service as well, 91’-14’ we have probably walked the same roads :)

I'm a Navy vet who is now a teacher who works with people who are trying to obtain their GED/alternative diplomas. Many of these people are smart and hard working so I support his action if it is implemented properly. It should also be taken into account that every year kids obtain their high school diplomas that are illiterate and can't do basic math. Some of these people then go on to join the military. My son who went through boot camp in the summer of 2021 would tutor these guys in hopes they could pass the required tests.

@NumberOneBlackGuy

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. If the ASVAB line scores are good enough then that's all that matters.

@timsmith1125

5 ай бұрын

Navy vet and obtained a GED due to the efforts of a recruiter that facilitated the process. It comes down to examining what might be required to have someone meet standards and what can be done to make it happen.

@micclay

5 ай бұрын

I've never heard of anyone not passing GED test on 1st try. How hard could it be?

@bobbyb4024

5 ай бұрын

@@micclay They study for it

@DavidLLambertmobile

5 ай бұрын

I was Army: 1990s enlisted 95B now 31B 🚔. 1989 MP school we had 40 troops. About 10-15 had regular problems with the report writing, statements, spelling, math etc. MPs & CIDC need some smarts not just high PT scores, put up a ⛺️.

My dad was drafted for the Korean War, and didn’t have a HS diploma. He got his GED in the Army. Although it was a very different time.

@brianmurray1395

19 күн бұрын

That's 💯% correct. That was then!

My ASVAB score was like... 70+. That was just walking in without studying and taking a practice test. The Sargeant there wanted to make me a mechanic (airforce). Wasn't interested in that, so never joined.

As much as Marines like to mess with sailors, I’ve seen some of them in action. Granted there are likely less combat MOS’s in the navy, but when feces strikes the oscillator they never failed to show up. An instance that comes to mind is when on a squad patrol we inadvertently jumped a reinforced platoon and were forced to lay down a base of fire and pivot ( run for our fuckin lives). A navy sea knight pilot heard our pleas for help and took it upon himself to divert from his supply mission and land in an extremely unfriendly environment to extract us, resulting in the sides of his helo being turned into cheese graters. He didn’t have to do that, but we called and he just showed up. Personally I think it takes inflated testicles to live on a hole in the ocean that is often hundreds if not thousands of miles from anything.

When I went to boot camp in 1996, we had several sailors in my division that joined the navy under the enlist or go to jail threat from a judge

@pixpusha

5 ай бұрын

There were several people I met in the army that it was enlist or serve time as well.

@sadlersquad

Ай бұрын

That’s how my dad got in back in the day. Ended up as a bubblehead and retired an E6 which he said he was proud of because they stopped promoting

My problem with all this is when the military rejects someone for having a low score is that same person has to go through the selective service process , and when something happens like a war the military then suddenly they’re forcing that same person to serve. If I was rejected, I would tell them to kick rocks, good luck I’ll see you on CNN.

Sup previous Navy recruiter here. Honestly if they really wanted to fix the problem they would fix MEPS. Cut down on required paperwork for things so individuals who want to join only need ESSENTIAL paperwork. Take a misdemeanor some kid got when he was 14. The courts usually expunge it. Just have the courts decision be the paperwork they need and NOT the arresting record, letters of recommendation from guidance counselors, and written statements. Same with medical injuries. If the doctor signs off on saying a broken bone is now 100% good then leave it at that. Why do the applicants have to get pre-op, post-op, follow-up, etc. to get through. It was one of the biggest headaches for the applicant and myself due to always needing MORE paperwork after we turn some in. Often the applicant just gave up. Until that happens we’re going to keep getting low numbers

@StormCentral1998

5 ай бұрын

I think they should do away from medical at meps and just have you go to a family physician. Simply give them paperwork when they go to recuiters have them go to a family physican or clinic then after its signed off they are good to go. would save so much time to at meps instead of staying all day at medical just to get denied and need a waiver

@honestliar9348

5 ай бұрын

I feel this. Tore my ACL and Meniscus freshman year of highschool, it's been a pain in the ass to dig up the paperwork for my recruiter, now we need meps to go through it...

It’s the medical part at meps that’s disqualifying applicants. Currently getting a waiver for medical. The process is insane

The reasons for the recruiting problems is entirely based in Congress, the White House, and the with the Officers. These kids today sit around and listen to their friends and relatives who have joined the service complain about the housing problems, the low pay, the soddy equipment, poor leadership, lack of support from senior leadership, lousy retirement program, constant deployments, and many other problems. They listen to all of this and then ask themselves "Why on earth would I want to enlist and have to put up with that?" This isn't the 1940' or even the 1980's when American youth still has a sense of patriotism and civic duty. Most of today's youth are more concerned about themselves and what they will get out of everything. THAT is what root cause of the recruiting problem.

@crazychase98

5 ай бұрын

Not wanting to die an work for people who hate you seams like vaid reasons

@trollmastermike52845

5 ай бұрын

And the group of kids that would join patriotic types get disenchanted by left leaning politics from leadership

@allthenewsordeath5772

5 ай бұрын

@@crazychase98 It’s not mutually exclusive, the current up-and-coming generation can be a bunch of selfish cowardly sissies, just as the current leadership can be a bunch of incompetent elitist buffoons, both these things can be true at the same time.

@Stillcountingracks

5 ай бұрын

Also we know politicians don’t have our back why fight a old men war when he won’t even send his family but will send you on the frontlines to fight

@sakuyaizayoi1746

3 ай бұрын

i agree with all your points but the root cause? some points sure, but it's merely a sympton and reaction to generations prior getting backstabbing and abused constantly its about time a generation said "no" hell why would any sude on the political spectrum if they follow their ideals and not what society or the hegemony demands would join. both have been betrayed and/or used to nullify idealistic/patriotic reasons

save your time, sanity and health, dont join a group of asses... who don't give a damn about you...

@kevinrowland5753

4 ай бұрын

Better start learning Chinese then. Someone has to do it

@zebulaun

Ай бұрын

@@kevinrowland5753 no chinaman ever called me goyim

@aar0n709

29 күн бұрын

China has no desire to attack the United States?

The standards are too high. MEPS are turning people away for information that's in their personal medical records -- something they didn't do in the past. If they see high cholesterol and A1C above 5.6 from their personal records, people have to improve that, even though it will likely improve in basic or boot camp. They are STRICT!

Genesis is what probably gets most applicants. I tried to enlist in 2001 after high school and was disqualified due to my medical history. I was honest and upfront but couldn't join. I can only imagine today it's higher, due to Genesis and people trying to hide their medical issues.

The Navy would be better served by trying to figure out why qualified people don't want to join the Navy. (Or any branch for that matter. )

@lpg12338

5 ай бұрын

👍

@DavidLLambertmobile

5 ай бұрын

I say like the late Richard NMI Marcinko ⚓️⚓️⚓️ O-5 ret; 🤖 get the new Navy vessels with small highly trained crews; robots, AI, 🛰 GPS. The US Navy only has around 110 ships: FY2024 . I think it was close to 500 in the Reagan era, 1980s.

@alexd4566

5 ай бұрын

No incentive to join the military if you have a decent head on your shoulders. Uni degree or trade school diploma? You have to be mad or a masochist to apply for a military job.

@svendays

4 ай бұрын

The Navy would have to solve long-standing systemic issues in order to fix that issue. And that ain't happening.

I know a bunch of business owners who do not have a GED or HS diploma, they make multiple 6 figures a year; a lot of smart people weren’t challenged in school and entered the workforce. I received a GED at 23 and make $300k a year.

@DialloMoore503

4 ай бұрын

Amazing! Keep up the great work! 👍🏿

I was a career recruiter for 18 years , we have done this before. The problem is not if they are smart enough (they have to have a 50) to be in the navy, the problem is that they have a high percentage of not finishing a 4 to 6 year enlistment. That becomes expensive and counterproductive when you have to replace them on a short notice.

Well said Nicky!

We need to look at our various leadership on capital hill.. Their choices are directly force feeding this recruitment issue.

@honkhonk8009

5 ай бұрын

ima be honest as a teenager, I never felt patriotic and actively shitted on the military, untill trump got elected. Kinda wierd tbh. I never thought America could ever feel like it has an identity. Everybody thought America was just some soulles corporation before 2015.

Leaving for Navy on February 12th as a (CS) culinary specialist at age 22. Wish me luck!

@Jawwzzz808

5 ай бұрын

Good luck and God Speed 🫡

@Basement811

5 ай бұрын

Ayyeee my man is a cook out back steak house gonna be knocking on ur door soon or military sealift

@kdaltex

5 ай бұрын

Cook well and keep morale high.

I freaking love you bro you was the reason I wanted to go to the navy.

@NICKYMGTV

5 ай бұрын

Appreciate the support man! Glad I could help.

Am in one of the soldiers getting out. Life and dreams are too precious for it to be taken in an instant with nothing more to give than a *pension* *thank you for your service* and *21 fun salute* no thank you

@honkhonk8009

5 ай бұрын

Alot of people are nihilistic and dont see much of the point in life. Unironically, alot of semi-suicidal people join up these days lmfao. Japan did the same strategy. They had their officers practically worship nihilism and its philosophers.

Dang, 10 ASVAB, recruiters will now need busses for their rock runs.

@celphalonred1999

4 ай бұрын

In defense for lower scorers, majority of that shit wasn't taught in schools. Especially all the tools listed in the test. Haven't seen nor hear most the tools even at my job.

Make it so that GI Bill can be used to eliminate student loan debt. That will bring new recruits.

@josephhakim2344

5 ай бұрын

Wait it doesnt

@sixgunsymphony7408

5 ай бұрын

@@josephhakim2344 An easy fix for congress, thing is that are loathe to do it.

@exquisitedelusion3925

5 ай бұрын

They have a college debt forgiveness program already, you have to serve an extra two years active duty though

@sixgunsymphony7408

5 ай бұрын

@@exquisitedelusion3925 If so then the military should be broadcasting that detail. When people are reading a news story about student debt, there should be a commercial about such benefits.

@exquisitedelusion3925

5 ай бұрын

@@sixgunsymphony7408 They should do a lot of things, but they don’t want to spend money on their people.

Meps and mhs genesis are causing these recruiting crisis all over the USA.

Genesis MEPS is currently keeping me and many others out. No recruiter wants to work with me to get waivers ntm why have them be disqualifiers if there are gonna be waivers just create a waiverless system.

To my fellow Veteran who derided allowing HS dropouts to enlist and was reluctant to say "Back in my Navy" ,"Allow me to retort"." Back in my Army" They not only allowed dropouts and GED holder to enlist ( dropouts were mostly dumped into "Combat arms", people with GEDs were treated as HS Grads) 3 years prior to my enlistment (1977) the military was drafting people out of jails , and chasing down dropouts. (HS and college). The reason why a lot of people dropped out back then was because a lot of urban HS's were fu*kin dangerous( and still are) , a war zone was safer because at least you could shoot back. Now rural, and suburban schools are the most likely sites of mass shootings . I tested so high on my entrance exam , that I got my requested overseas posting (S. Korea) but was made to go intelligence (INSCOM) which in hindsight was a great posting. My assigned secondary MOS was " Crypto ,intercept translator"(I still don't know what that is). Education is important. I finished my AA on active duty. My BA in a year after ETS. In 1984 the FBI (which required college) top pay was $27,000 dollars ,My first civilian LEO job ( requiring a HS or GED topped out at 37k). 3 years later going through my second civilian academy( requiring college) ,the FBI still required college , and still topped out at $27k) My new job topped out at $50K. It stayed that way for the feds until Clinton got elected '92 (I voted for Perot ,he was right about that if NAFTA got passed " you will hear giant suckin' sound of American jobs goin' to Mexico".)I stayed on that job for 23 years ,retired at 51, My salary was about what a FBI Special Agent In Charge(SAIC) makes now) . My combined pensions are 6 figures plus the 30k most working people in "Red" States earn. But I don't think a HS diploma is worth getting beat up or shot .GED= "Good Enough Diploma" .In most States a GED score of 275 out of 300 means your HS has to list you as a "graduate". I got 283. My college GPA was 3.75.

@honkhonk8009

5 ай бұрын

NAFTA would be good if it wasnt Mexico and was just Canada.

@curtisdavis8594

3 ай бұрын

Good Story of persistence & determination!! 💪

To be really honest. If you score a 50 on the asvab you really dont need a HS diploma lmao. I've seen more ppl with HS diploma barely getting 32 on their asvab.

@tresfordays9644

5 ай бұрын

As a current recruiter I even have college grads that can’t get above a 31 one on the ASVAB thinking they gonna be officer just cause they have a piece of paper

@Mr.Sanchez602

5 ай бұрын

​@@tresfordays9644 What's the age limit to join Navy reserve?

@agamnon2619

5 ай бұрын

I don’t have a GED, or diploma, yet my ASVAB is a 73. A diploma/GED is just a piece of paper.

@bobcobb158

5 ай бұрын

highschool today teaches you next to nothing, it's glorified babysitting. The smart kids will learn on their own and excel with or without teachers guiding them, and the kids that don't give a fuck just float through on the 'no child left behind' policy thinking they'll be the next tiktok star. American public school is bleak, a kids success ultimately comes down to the parents.

@jink1768

4 ай бұрын

College drop out here, scored a 98. Unfortunately I was rejected due to past medical diagnosis.

I was in from 2000-2014. I remember when they were forcing good sailors out. I was a chief, and by 2014 I was cutting out. Things got weird.

Yea, I don’t do well with comprehensive tests. I just completed my MSW and I was in the running for the social work program with the Navy but unfortunately wasn’t selected. They only selected 5 individuals) despite their being a recruiting crisis. I’m considering Public Affairs now but I’m just not motivated to stress my brain out relearning algebra to just not use it again afterwards.

its easy to look at it from the outside, but man doing the actual recruiting is the most unrewarding, thankless, and degrading shit ever

@C.P101

5 ай бұрын

who cares -

@WhatsNextFam

5 ай бұрын

That’s why theirs so many suicides in recruiting

@C.P101

5 ай бұрын

@@WhatsNextFam I could've killed myself every time life got hard but I haven't. Nobody makes decisions for you outside of yourself.

@WhatsNextFam

5 ай бұрын

@@C.P101 oh if your a actual recruiter than I’m truly sorry but I assumed you were just a person who’s never been enlisted saying who cares what they go through.

@C.P101

5 ай бұрын

3531 - U.S. Marines , Ad-Sep. My comment is more of a general statement - nobody cares in LIFE...even outside of the context of recruiting, nobody gives a shit except for yourself for the specific reasons you give said shit. Now - until people get over or accept that, they're gonna have a hard time pressing on or succeeding in life. Mindset is key.

Back in the pre-Nam days we had the draft and those w/o a GED of HS diploma could sign up. Those that scored high could get in a good A-school and a decent MOS/rate, I got a GED after finishing Navy Photo School (A). I was the top Marine in the class, third overall. Several guys who finished high school flunked out and went to the fleet. As soon as I got to my first duty station I passed the GED took the ACT/SAT and started taking college classes on the USMC nickel. Local results vary. left the Corps as a SGT, and after lots ore, taught college.

@brady4280

5 ай бұрын

Are you just telling a story with no fucking point at all?

Air Force recruiter here. You can join with without a HS diploma or GED but will require a higher ASVAB score. Doesn't mean you'll have all the jobs available, HS D and GED as some jobs still have that as a requirement.

@TomoFit

5 ай бұрын

@@hiskingdomcomeministries3539 bruh I can’t even get ahold of them. Not gonna even lie is actually easier to go EA can put a package in to OTS.

@hiskingdomcomeministries3539

5 ай бұрын

@@TomoFit okay you good mane I believe you

@bobcobb158

5 ай бұрын

@@hiskingdomcomeministries3539 Air force recruiters are notorious for never responding, and you never being able to get a hold of them or catch them in their office. Hell, half the people that join the army, join because they couldn't ever get the airforce recruiter to call them back.

Nicky is very knowledgeable and definitely knows his field, thank you for your service!

@NICKYMGTV

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate the support! When you do this almost 16 years you tend to know the culture.

Tight! I’ve been killing my self getting fit and strong to sign up at the end of the year.

The biggest issue is that they are turning away perfectly healthy people who want to join because they had a history of asthma when they were 6 etc. I had to get a waiver because I had rnhabdomylosis once. It was a pain in the ass. But they need to change the medical and they’ll have an easier time reaching some numbers.

@gm28jtr

5 ай бұрын

We don’t turn ppl away for people who have asthma in the past. They have to get a pulmonary function test, if they past that we can contract them.

@danielyarbrough5653

5 ай бұрын

I’d love to serve but I’ve got food allergies which apparently disqualifies me

@gm28jtr

5 ай бұрын

@@danielyarbrough5653 depends on the severity

@toyotawitha20mm35

5 ай бұрын

They are making me feel uncertain, I'm trying to get a waiver for ADHD (I have not needed ADHD meds since I was a YOUNG child) and Mild Depression (I have been off those meds for over 6 months) , do you have any idea why these waivers take such a long ass time to get? I tried joining the army, I got turned away for 2 years so I'm trying with the Navy rn, I've waited for a few months now for a waiver to join the Navy. I am still waiting for one.

@ninjaked1265

5 ай бұрын

@@toyotawitha20mm35I got my adhd waiver denied. Apparently if you ever had an IEP or 504 plan they’ll disqualify you

I was in the Marines and took a ship from Okinawa to the P.I. and some of those jobs a were seemed pretty easy. One thing about the militrary is they over staff the crap out of everything.

Lol I was separated from the Army post Desert Storm because I was an E4 promotable with an almost maxxed ASVAB and PT and PLDC Commandant's List grad with 7.5 years in in a maxxed cutoff MOS. They wouldn't even let me reclass due to newly established retention control points. I see them desperate to make their mission now and it make me laugh.

I am ex NAVY and I just saw where a non citizen was told by a recruiter he was guaranteed citizenship after his service, and then he was just discarded. Good Luck on sighning anyone up. By the way, when i enlisted in 69 my friend took the enlisted test twice and was told twice by the NAVY that he was denied. He then served 4 years in the AIRFORCE.

Oddly enough, I joined the US Navy’s Nuclear Power Program and went to bootcamp without a high school diploma or GED. I had enough credits at the end of the 11th grade, so I spent my senior year working instead of going to school. I went to bootcamp in March of my senior year, graduated in May and picked up my high school diploma in June after which I went to EM “A” school. Left the Navy at the end of my six years as an EM1(SS).

True story during the Vietnam War recruiting was drying up. Along comes the Program to draft men with a Mental category 4. During the Vietnam War that ment an IQ of 85. They started with 100,000 by the end of the draft in 1973 over 440,000 +.had served. Any one who served in the US Military during that time will say that those folks did not get it done.Not taking any thing away from them.But, there were guys who could not read a comic book or knew how to buy ,a bus ticket, or make a call home Do not say that I am not being truthful. Any one who served from 1968 to 75.Had some one or more then some one serve with them who should have not been there. This is a bad road they have decided to go down.

Have tried several times applying for Air Force Officer position. Heard back ONCE and got an extremely condescending and snarky email telling me I am better off enlisting first..the ol recruiter trick I guess..I have 2 Masters Degrees & work in high level management...but sure, guess my skills aren't of any use..unbelievable!

Because taking anybody to work in your organization is definitely a winning strategy. You reap what you sow; I’m an Army retiree who was on the recruiting trail for nine years, have fun!

I joined the USN in 1974, in boot camp I was tasked to teach reading,writing and math to two fellow boot campers. How can anyone perform any navy job without the ability to read???

I got an email today asking if I wanted to return as a recruiter. This is the second email I get within a week to go back to the navy.

"we'll take anyone" , I've been waiting 5 months to get my waiver and the Navy still hasn't gotten back to me, I've been desperately trying to join. I got a good asvab score, I passed all the hearing and vision test and physicals at MEPS, I have been off my depression meds for over 6 months. I am STILL waiting for a response from MEPS, I call bullshit on that one. I found the military as a great opportunity for me, i highly dislike schooling, i barely made it through highschool , and i finally found something that would give me an opportunity for a lasting career. Ive veen wasting over a year trying to get into the military, i do not want to quit trying, i dont see why ADHD and Mild depression alone should permanently disqualify me from ANYTHING. i am PAST physically fit enough to get through boot camp, i have no idea why they cant just give me a waiver now, if there are any actual recruiters reading this, can you please let me know why its taking me such a long time to get a waiver?

@Thelasthope063

3 ай бұрын

How is it going ??

@toyotawitha20mm35

3 ай бұрын

@@Thelasthope063 navy ghosted me, trying the army again currently

@Thelasthope063

3 ай бұрын

@@toyotawitha20mm35 I was just about to say I think the army or marines would be a better fit for getting a waiver for adhd navy deals with a lot of submarines and focus vs those 2 branches are moving and in the field how is it going ?

@toyotawitha20mm35

3 ай бұрын

@@Thelasthope063 just talked with an army recruiter a day ago, from the looks of it, I'm pretty sure he's going to work with me to get a waiver, there's a lot of stuff on my waiver though, more than even I thought. It's all mental, physically I am more than perfectly fit to join without a waiver

@clapperstunts1520

11 күн бұрын

Go coast guard. Submitted 6 waivers all got approved. 2 Criminal background waivers, self harm waiver, ged waiver, medical waiver, etc.. I ship out in two weeks. I’m enlisting as a boatswains mate and I’m going to try to get onto a DSF unit (deployable special forces)

In 2012, 2946 sailors were forced out as a result of the recession. I don't feel for the Navy. They did this to itself.

@jesuspartida5194

5 ай бұрын

What happened

@javengillam8435

4 ай бұрын

​@@jesuspartida5194 Sorry for being late but now I'm also interested

Pretty easy to see where this is headed !

@dingus6317

3 ай бұрын

Recruiters came up to me in their plain clothes when I was working a shift at Lowes one time 3 years ago, they were desperate even back then..

I dropped out of high school to do my sport professionally but did pass a high school equivalency exam before I left. There was a program for student athletes at my school but I chose not to participate. I scored 87 on the ASVAB and had to get a waiver to get in the navy. I now have a bachelors and a masters degree. I would have passed high school had I continued going but getting paid to do something I love and travel all over the world, no 16 year old is turning that down. I joined at 22 and I don’t regret anything. I honestly don’t think this policy is the worst thing the navy has done.

@setha360

5 ай бұрын

87 is what I scored in 1982 back when the test was harder and they gave me a free pointed hat and a corner seat.

I can’t truly tell you how the future on military recruiting will change but one is for sure. I did my time in service they can’t recall me now. The future looks so bright now.

Im a senoir in highschool and recently enlisted in the Navy back in november, im on set to graduate in late may and I leave for bootcamp on june 10th. The reason that drove me to enlist the most specifcally the navy was the travling aspect. One of the recruiters at the office told me hes been in for 5 years and in that time has been to over 25 diffrent countries and gets paid to do so. I feel like if more people knew this it would help a bit.

@ImpeccableMoment

5 ай бұрын

Most people already know this.

@foxtrotzekeyy

2 ай бұрын

Should have went to college and commissioned into being an officer. More pay, better treatment, a lot more respect.

Gee, I wonder where they’ll find tens of thousands of military aged men to fill the ranks?

@henrymosquera8646

5 ай бұрын

Drone army or army of illegals!!😂

@BillyraycyrusIII

5 ай бұрын

Watch, they'll create a foreign legion like the French.

@kdaltex

5 ай бұрын

Foreign mercenaries are disloyal and will backstab you

@rasbot2

4 ай бұрын

Chicago new York or post recruiters at Mexican and Canadian border

@ThunderStruck94660

2 ай бұрын

It happened with Rome also.

They should focus on recruiting veterans instead. Increase base pay, make it appealing so they make a career out of it instead. Increase age limit, get rid of toxicity in the military, more benefits etc.. I felt like most people only do 1 contract and gtfo cuz it aint worth it for most of us, too much bs

@goodassjob_

5 ай бұрын

This is 💯 .. I think most ppl can get all they need from the military on the first 4-6yr contract if they don't waste time. I left with a degree, a trade, experience, leadership skills, money, and all the benefits a veteran gets. The only thing I'd say I messed up on is letting my security clearance expire.... Idk bout focusing recruiting on veterans tho...imo, you gotta be down bad to go back to the military lol

@davidmcinnis154

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely! So many veterans want back in, but the military makes it really hard (frequently impossible) to come back. Plus many of the vets are really motivated.

I approve of this. There’s lots of reasons people wouldn’t have a diploma/GED, and most of those reasons aren’t the persons fault. If you have to take a test, it proves you have the knowledge/skills, so who cares what your life circumstances were

Maybe if medical background check wasn’t the most important thing 70% wouldn’t fail Meps. People use to be able to join reserves with heart defects (both grandparents in Vietnam had heart issues) Now if you had adhd meds at 17 good luck bud on your future in the civilian job market that pays 3x as much. with better retirement long term. I wonder what the problem is for recruiting. Good luck to all recruiters they have a hard job wish you guys the best not your fault the system is kinda screwed.

I heard their biggest obstacle is the medical waiver system. So why not reform it? Seems like a solution that makes the most sense 🤷‍♂️

@Knights_Oath

5 ай бұрын

There is a medical waiver for just about anything in the DOD. They had really strict requirements for asthma or ADHD, but a lot of that went away when they needed bodies back in 2007-2010.

@Knights_Oath

5 ай бұрын

There is a medical waiver for just about anything in the DOD. They had really strict requirements for asthma or ADHD, but a lot of that went away when they needed bodies back in 2007-2010.

@acewings221

5 ай бұрын

@@Knights_Oath They should remove the medical practitioner guy from the equation entirely...I think a candidate should be allowed to get a waiver simply by going to their family doctor and having their doctor fill out a form stating that the candidate is good for military service. The idea that a military doctor can over rule a family doctor or psychiatrist that someone has seen for years is ridiculous. The process to obtain a waiver is just a completely ridiculous and un necessary hurdle

@jamiezoe7663

5 ай бұрын

I’m currently struggling to get in because of an adhd diagnosis back in 2012, I only had 1 prescription filled and I got another one back in 2017. Plus two inhalers for bronchitis. They’re being a pain abt it….

@acewings221

5 ай бұрын

@@jamiezoe7663 I decided not to join because of the hassle. wasn't going to waste my time. Plus, i don't like the way they treat their people. Never met a veteran who was happy they served...instead the ones I met were all miserable and regretted joining

The enlisted are already here because we don't have a better option. If someone without a HS diploma or GED can meet the minimum score, THEN LET THEM TRY AND BETTER THEIR LIFE. I personally have a GED and currently have 21 years time in the Army. The Army wouldn't talk to me until I had a GED and I had to borrow money to pay to the test. Sometimes people just need a little help.

@acewings221

5 ай бұрын

Lol @ going into the military as “bettering your life”. You’ve really drank the kool aid

Exactly same issue here in 🇨🇦.

@NICKYMGTV, out of respect for you and your channel, I just wanted to let you know I did a reaction to this on mine. I dig your content homie and love getting different points of views. There were some things I agreed with you on and some I didnt. All in all, great video Brother!