*laughs in USMC* the only entertainment we had was going to church on Sundays to get a free 1 hour break while sleeping in the back

@baka1984

3 ай бұрын

I'll tell you a secret too. Become a prayer leader. I am atheist AF but I lead the protestant marines. You eat chow with other prayer leaders separate from your PLT on Sunday and get a few extra away in the morning too. It really was easy to do because the Navy Chaplains give you a prayer leader book that has all the popular verses for each type of emotion.

@HolyClownFuckarus

3 ай бұрын

One hour a week to pray to live another week.

@plumber_midge

3 ай бұрын

That's exactly what my kid said after graduating from Parris 😂

@T_81535

3 ай бұрын

I did Army basic in 2003 at ft. Knox. Sunday was no time to relax for us. Which ever drill sergeant was on duty was a mad prick and did all he could to make Sunday miserable for recruits.

@joshhume4307

3 ай бұрын

Used to pretend to tighten my rack, put my fingers between the metal springs and mattress so my arms would hang.. and sleep

Since it's not being strengthened by design it is being weakened by design.

@ericjohnson5617

3 ай бұрын

1000% either or.

@hazegrayprepper4396

3 ай бұрын

I've been saying this for years. I started to see it in 2009, and it got worse as the years went by. I'm so glad I retired in 2019 and now have the option to leave a job if it becomes toxic.

@JK-dv3qe

3 ай бұрын

ayy, well said!! Good one!

I guarantee you that there will be a black market for using the phones now. Overnight watches will be swiping keys and letting other sailors use the phones for money. That's if things go well. When things stop going well, we're going to see an instance of the phone locker being broken into and all the phones broken or stolen and that will become a huge cluster as well.

@fernie51296

3 ай бұрын

In BCT, our cell phones are in big metal chests in plastic bags with individual numbers. When Sundays came along, two trainees would grab each platoon’s chest and open them in front of every platoon. We would grab our phone bags and hold our phones above our heads. Then they told us we had 30 minutes to use our phones and we would spread out and sit down to listen to music, FaceTime or call. After 30 minutes were up, we put them back in the bags. Put them in the chest and they are locked away until next week.

@a.williams-mccray4483

3 ай бұрын

Shhhhh... don't give'em any ideas 😅

@rishnix

3 ай бұрын

@@a.williams-mccray4483 Oh I'm sure they'll come up with plenty of terrible ideas all on their own. They would be recruits if they didn't.

@LavenderSystem69

3 ай бұрын

@@rishnix You mean like running a grey market selling cough drops because AAFES refused to stock enough for people to actually be able to buy a bag, so there was huge money in having like 30 bags mailed to you a month and then selling them to your fellow trainees for a quarter a piece or five for a dollar? Because I totally didn't do that during BCT lmfao

Just graduate everyone to Chief Petty Officer. Current leadership won't know the difference.

@SR-ob3wn

3 ай бұрын

The chiefs won’t know the difference either. Chief’s Mess has become a joke.

Back in my day, we called collect, "One" time, after that it was "Snail MAIL" , & waited once a week for -"MAIL" CALL ! Oldy, times.

@RobayatRahman

3 ай бұрын

Yeap time changes, we don’t live in ancient times anymore, it’s a progressive society so like it or not the military has to progress forward if they wanna get out of this crisis

@a.williams-mccray4483

3 ай бұрын

Same here

@chronicandironic8701

3 ай бұрын

it was like that not even two years sgo

@davetdu

2 ай бұрын

inmates in prison get mail almost every day

@spexae

2 ай бұрын

Same brother

just finished Airforce BMT, phone calls are few and far between and any phone calls outside the mandatory 3 are given as rewards. We were there for 8 weeks, and probably only spent 1 hour on the phone talking to loved ones. It did not interfere with any training, and only served as an incentive for excellence. There is nothing soft about getting to contact your loved ones here and there.

@jimmy-iw3sb

3 ай бұрын

i feel so sorry for you, why tf would you join in 2024?

@golfery5119

3 ай бұрын

​@@jimmy-iw3sbwhy do you feel sorry for op? What is wrong about joining in 2024?

@Me-eb3wv

3 ай бұрын

@@golfery5119there ain’t nothing worth defending for in this country no more

@ct-xw9dj

3 ай бұрын

Just finished AF BMT last year. They give us an extra 5 mins if we did well. They really make all the minute count for phone time

@jimmy-iw3sb

3 ай бұрын

@@golfery5119 You really can't see it? The world is crumbling and ending on a spiritual and metaphysical level. Why join a malignant corrupt military that hates its troops? to you nothing is amiss, I feel sorry for you too.

By all means, I'm not a Mental Health Professional, but that clinical psychologist is basically admitting to being an enabler. They should know that what they described is what Nicky succinctly called an addiction, and his guidance is to basically just lean into it to reduce attrition. Because the best strategy is to kick the can down the road for when its time to go on their first deployment and then thats the time they claim mental distress because the phone is no longer a viable option. So now instead of losing kids a boot camp where investment is still minimal, we're losing them underway to MEDEVAC and the remaining crew have to pick up the slack. That won't have knock on effects because it's not like sailors aren't overworked as is. Unless you're someone like me who outside of KZread, and it barely counts, has no social media. If I don't have signal, or otherwise in a place where KZread isnt prudent, I pull up the kindle and read. Its so much better for one's mental health to maintain an inner monologue that doesnt get atrophied by constant audiovisual bombardment.

It's a failure of planning... If you cannot plan before boot camp to not have access to the outside world, how will you do it for any type of deployment?

@dajohn2504

3 ай бұрын

Sometimes things come up. I switched from Marines (E) to Navy (O) and during the first 3 weeks, the MC dropped me from deers and when my wife rushed my son to the ER, she was detained at the gate while he was bleeding and in pain. I verified with every entity that the Navy orders would suffice, but they clearly didn't.

@OutlawTwo

3 ай бұрын

@@dajohn2504 generally those are emergencies the command facilitates to ease. As a general rule, we should plan for the average and accommodate deviations when possible.

I went through Covid Boot Camp in 2020, got 2 phone calls during that 9 week time frame. Did most correspondence with letters in the mail

It’s 10 weeks now. Recruit heaven doesn’t really exist anymore. The phone center has many phones out of service. I’m an RDC, I’m not a fan of phones, it creates more responsibilities for us to safe keep them. But it’s basically just like their regular scheduled phone calls in the MTS as opposed to using the broken phone center

@RogueSeabee

3 ай бұрын

Someone pin this

@whenhen

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. They’re acting like this perpetuates some sort of addiction to phones. It doesn’t. The recruits were already getting these calls just on crappy pay phones that were notorious for being extremely hard to hear. Now they get to use 21st century technology to place the calls. The only difference is now they won’t be charged an outrageous sum of money to call loved ones, who may not pick up thanks to unknown numbers. And that’s if the landline was working which many were not.

@luevr2000

3 ай бұрын

Well you ain’t going to get 21st century technology when you go to combat….embrace the SUCK! This is a joke…

Bootcamp has nothing to do with the recruiting crisis its a quality of life and leadership issue

@golfery5119

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, even if you don't look at the fact that more young people nowadays feel the need to join the military since more people today don't have as hard of a time landing a job, more people today are just aware of how bad the military is. More people know more now how much the military as a whole sucks as it is. Then you add on toxic leadership, which while that exists everywhere in all jobs both military and in civilian world, is arguably worse in the military because a civilian employer can't throw you in jail for not wanting to bow down to his or her will, and you can also change your job if you can get another one. Then there's the quality of life, and more people nowadays know how worse the military can be depending on the branch you are talking about or certain aspects in each branch. So they are more aware now how bad being a flight mechanic in the Air force is while also knowing that the rest of the Air Force overall doesn't suck as bad. They know how rough life on a navy ship especially as a lower enlisted is. And they know how the Army (although less so outside of the forscom aspect) and Marines are overall the two worst branches of the military.

@gld1010

3 ай бұрын

Very true! And they hear about or see the aging equipment issue as well.

Nicky, the only logical reason I could see for this is that in two years those phone booths are going to go away. AT&T announced last month to its landline customers that the landline service is being discontinued in the US in two years. That means no pay phones anywhere. You can’t do VOIP without the Internet, and that would require a costly upgrade to the remaining pay phones out there. Personally, I hate this. When an emergency happens, that landline would be the only thing that would still work. After surviving natural disasters and not having power or clean water for more than two weeks, that land line was the only thing left to get help.

@wyldkat82

3 ай бұрын

For VoIP they have NMCI........ Ahahahahahahahahaha sorry had to. But they can put in VoIP phones to cover this. But like Nicky stated govt contract is the main reason. Someone getting paid. I'd say this, I went to great mistakes in 2013 and was the "cell phone out the bus" then mail it back home. I think it would be better to keep the cell phone in a lock box till graduation. Because trying to get your phone back at graduation can be very difficult. Especially if your family can't be there. That's my 2 cents.

Navy boot camp, brought to you by... Raid shadow legends! Was on a sub and laughing my ass off in 3 months of silence at a time. My phone calls were, "Love you guys, I'll call when I see the sun again." Boot camp is for training, nothing else.

my army bct, we got to make 3 calls, red, white and blue phase to update our progress and they were like 7 minute calls, it was also during a more holiday packed rotation so we only did it on those no training days.

In 2014 at MCRD we got 2 phone calls and that was on entry and like the last month to confirm travel plans for family going to bootcamp graduation. Everything else was letter snail mail!

Nicky, how do you maintain an actual fighting force without serious discipline?

@Jimmy.O.

3 ай бұрын

Watch the horrors of fellow shipmates die of incompetence during times of war and have it rekindle some newfound motivation to do better.... if that happens.

@ericjohnson5617

3 ай бұрын

​@Jimmy.O. to bad we are betting on "if"

@hazegrayprepper4396

3 ай бұрын

@Jimmy.O. or they'll force recall the retirees, like myself, back in like they're doing for the Army in the event the s*** hits the fan to bolster numbers up.

@JK-dv3qe

3 ай бұрын

Russian military have taken blows for sure. But they have gone up against the 'might' of the globalist west's mercenaries/proxies. The US military only have gone up against goat/sheep farmers in Afghanistan (and they lost that one)

@The_Black_Knight

3 ай бұрын

If the SHTF, Selective Service and recall retirees as trainers.

Let's issue everyone a cell phone, give them options if they want to deploy or not, required all subs to surface once a day so the sailors can call home and see the sun.

I mean we got ours usually every Sunday in OSUT, but that was also 22 weeks long

My how times have changed! Riki heaven I haven't heard that one in a while lol. Sunday was letter writing and slightly better grits for morning chow

We had a few people with phones in OCS and during the final phase (CandiO) we had them all the time. If you were caught not conducting official business on it, you were given 100 demerits (100x 10 minute training sessions)

@The_Black_Knight

3 ай бұрын

I don't remember time available to make many calls as a mustang anyway. Too many extra duties to prepare for future responsibilities. Maybe 2-3 total until the end. Exceptions were made for personal emergencies for family matters.

During MARINE CORPS Boot camp we got two phone calls one when we got there and one at the end to tell our families the day of graduation and how to get on MCRD. That was it, the Navy is soft.

RTC San Diego 1985. We had phone booths outside the barracks where we would sneak in calls. But most of the time we wrote letters.

Boot camp is not what is keeping people from joining.

5:45. I recently just got out of air force bmt and we only had two 15 minute calls. I have a couple of friends who joined the army and they get an hour phone call once a week.

We currently have wifi on our ship but with so many ppl from a carrier, good luck trying to make a call as the wifi is only rated for up to 400 people and they are not gonna pay for more. It came down after 8 months that we had 1 hr for khaki's and 1 hr for everyone else and rotated between the two. It even got to da point they would shift the location of the service and you would either go foward or aft of the ship. Until pedcon red is set and den everyone gets screwed 😅

I got two phone calls. One for in processing and the second for tell the family about the graduation ceremony and the first one wasn’t long the second one was 5minutes.

I actually liked not having a phone for 3 months. I felt like an illegal who just made the crossing into America 😂

ex-USAF 1980 to 1984. Boot was not hard for me was in Civil Air Patrol. So knew what was up.

That snow is for real! The base is north of Chicago; right by Lake Michigan. The red cord is worn by Recruit Division Commanders (R.D.C. / drill sergeant). Navy Boot Camp is 10 weeks long. A total of 5 calls seems right. You get one (30-second ?) "I have arrived safely," call, and a call about every three weeks - but you never know which week. So the family sits by the phone on Sunday afternoons. But if the recruits screw up, they delay that division's phone privileges for a week! No explanation given to the families. By the end, I had over two-dozen reasons to hate the Navy. You get two calls at a random time; first it's the, "I am a sailor," call after they complete Battle Stations. They switch hats from one that says "Recruit" to one that says "Navy"; it's a big deal! And one last call to confirm they are graduating so you can make final arrangements for your visit. Most of these calls are... I can't remember, a decent amount of time but always frantic because you miss them so much and you never know when they will have to hang up. I DO NOT BLAME THE BOOT CAMP COMMANDERS FOR ALLOWING CELL PHONES; Congress won't spend the money to fix the phone-banks and a bunch of the pay-phones do not work. This randomly cuts down on how much time is available to each sailor. It's a big pain in the ass to get them a phone-card - and they can't call home unless they have enough minutes. Those are no longer problems. The first thing my son did was call his family and friends as we drove off the base. The worse part is he forgot to call his girlfriend before he left and didn't bring her mailing address; had some explaining to do. Can you imagine getting to Boot Camp and not remembering your family's phone number?

In leery of the hargers, are they plugged into a computer that allows phones to be hacked?

Idk about the Army but in Air Force we didn’t get any 1 hour of play time lol, we used our personal phones to call home but we got 3 5 mins call during training. The rest were letters through sandbox. And if you got caught on any app instant revoke of calls home and possibly washed back 2 weeks in training to another squadron. I went through bmt last year in May

None of my family has email, so how would I do that?

Someone's relative on a armed forces committee just got that contract probably in Minecraft of course lol. In '88 I got 2 calls using an old-fashioned pay phone lmbo.

I finished boot in 1984. We were allowed to call home the night before graduation. That said, I did not care about calling home. I joined the Corpse to escape. As far as kids having cell phones, good for them. It will all work itself out.

Hey man, kiddos gotta call their two mommies.

I enjoyed being able to use my own phone to call love one, during basic training.

The financial problems issue has always been solved effectively on an individual case-by-case basis.

They are just using cell phones to make their calls home and it stays in a locker so they do not have free access. Also, they are trying improve recruitment and so the thinking more connectivity will help with that… so I was told by the CMC of Great Lakes in a CSEL briefing in DC I got last week.

My son was doing that during Army BCT 10 years ago

Hell yeah 😂 lets bring it down!

Bootcamp for me was in 2012. We had to ship our cell phones back home if we had them on us. We were allowed 2 calls, the first one being the one saying we made it safely. The 2nd one was right before battle stations to arrange for people coming to graduation. Other than that, it was letters only. At the rate bootcamp is being softened, our military will not be able to handle war fighting.

I imagine since this is brought upon the recruiting crisis and now trying even harder to retain recruits, you'd think they try to make the benefits and quality of life better for the general mass bc recruits don't want to come in or stay in for living conditions and benefits. This the main issue and you won't have to deal with cellphones as the answer

I used phone cards in 2022 boot camp. Also we were never given access to email in bootcamp, I don’t know where that comes from.

at parris island if you knocked another recruit out or knocked his mouthguard out you got a phone call home

Honestly having a cellphone break was the best thing that ever happened to me. I don’t have to depend on all the time. PD; Hurricane Maria prepared me for no service and no phone and I’ve earned my phone calls as well.

Long ago when I went to boot camp, there were no phones or computers. They made us write letters!! I am not making this up.

Crossing over from the Navy to the Army, I suddenly had zero caffeine, nicotine, etc. They can give up phones.

I’m glad I went to USMC bootcamp in 07, in parris island at that. Good times.

@HeyThereItzJessie

3 ай бұрын

Nah shit like this isn’t coming to the corp. the corp is getting tougher for the most part and SOI is improving.

@HolyClownFuckarus

3 ай бұрын

@@HeyThereItzJessie good, I hope they keep making new decisions for these new devil pups.

@HeyThereItzJessie

3 ай бұрын

@@HolyClownFuckarus I ship May 6th to MCRD at age 27. If the corp was becoming weaker I would have never enlisted.

@communismisgarbage

3 ай бұрын

​@HeyThereItzJessie dam n bro why so late but then again i know a friend who just joined the Army at 35.

@HolyClownFuckarus

3 ай бұрын

@@communismisgarbage the oldest dude in my bootcamp platoon was 27 😂 I think the max back then was 32 or some shit.

Pay phone didnt work... call a Wwwwwambulance

I’ve noticed in my experience with businesses that the successful ones have good employees , pay them well and treat them well. The ‘ Treat them well ‘ part is most easily done for the military. Basically, stop screwing people for general purpose reasons. It’s pissing people off and it definitely made me angry to the point that I still remember things today. The military is competing with the civilian sector for good people. The military is losing very badly. Some civilian companies are having real problems. I don’t expect the Navy to start providing hot tub spas and filet mignon and Dom Peringon champagne for dinner. How about shortened work days for people who had the mid watch or forming a actual investigation team to check out complaints of abuse’s of authority. This would work if it isn’t used to just cover up incidents or threaten people to remain quiet about everything. Be open to mistakes to learn how to not repeat them again instead of looking for the nearest E6 or below to blame. The failing civilian companies have the same mindset as the Navy and that why they’re failing. These companies go out of business and that’s it. I worked in a restaurant and the owner brought in a ‘ restaurant consultant ‘. This woman did nothing whatsoever. She was a complete waste of time and money. Military: Learn from that mistake. If there are ineffective or incompetent people ; Replace them immediately.

@rikoea6530

3 ай бұрын

Honestly, when I was joining the Army I thought it was going to be a professional, well-managed organization with good leadership and routines. Turns out none of that was the case. At in-processing I've had to deal with starvation, no bathroom breaks, no healthcare, toxic civilian employees, and just general incompetance. I got stuck with a bag with no towels, and when I told a drill sergent he told me I was lying. I also had to march to a new barracks everyday and leave my stuff out in the hot sun in the middle of summer because they didn't want to assign us one. After that I should've just asked to go home because since 2018 my entire Army experience was incredibly ridiculous and horrific and now I regret joining. The Army doesn't a give a f about their soldiers and doesn't deserve them.

@tyvernoverlord5363

3 ай бұрын

@@rikoea6530 Hot take of mine: prior to OIF kicking off, and whilst OEF was underway the professionalism of the services was drop kicked and/or shot out of the window...

@romannavarro1178

3 ай бұрын

@@rikoea6530yo bro do you don’t recommend joining the army ? I want join but I’m thinking no idk Is it really that bad how long u been there for

@rikoea6530

3 ай бұрын

@@romannavarro1178 I was in for close to three years and I don't recommend the Army at all. You will spend 99% of your time doing worthless details and never your MOS, have to do PT in the early morning everyday, and you will have zero ability to walk anywhere by yourself (even to throw trash in the dumpster) until your first duty station. You will get way more from joining the Coast Guard, Space Force, and Air Force than you ever will in the Army. The Army will also take prior service from those branches, but not the other way around. So for example, if you just left the Army and wanted to go Coast Guard they won't accept you. Nobody wants that toxicity within its ranks. My Army experience was really horrific since day one at in-processing and I think we all deserve better than that.

@romannavarro1178

3 ай бұрын

@@rikoea6530 thanks bro

What ever happened to writing letters??? 😮‍💨 That should be the only way to contact anyone, no cell phones, as a Marine serving sense 2016, this is a huge crunch and sad.

@whenhen

3 ай бұрын

Recruits still write letters.

@ct-xw9dj

3 ай бұрын

They got a service now where the family can get the letter and send it in back to trainee in a day. Wish I utilize that while in BMT

What are they going to do at river city. Or when shf service goes down.

I graduated nov 9 th and we had a 10 week bootcamp when we went they both dropped the number of weeks and added their phones as soon as we left

It will be difficult to make sure that the recruits are not using apps or other prohibited crap... I still remember the phones in the RTC Nex though. I went through December of 2016, and they were hit or miss. Some worked, some didn't. This could work, and could honestly be a better option in the grand scheme of things. I am definitely in favor of the email idea though. Despite all of the hate we catch, I would say that RTC was a decent enough representation of life in the fleet.

I tried to stay in but I got med boarded and I actually wanted to stay in and fought to stay in, but they try so hard to keep the shit bags in 🤷🏻‍♂️

@DCdrumz59

3 ай бұрын

1989 RIF: Damn good soldiers thrown to the wolves. 12 to 15 years plus in, you were gone. The US Army eats it's own.

@teannamartin156

3 ай бұрын

better to have a shitbag than a liability

Keep lowering standards until there isnt any. Ive been in for quite a while but im running circles around these new boots. They are so out of shape, its crazy

@hazegrayprepper4396

3 ай бұрын

I knew it was getting bad when I retired 5 years ago, but damn that is sad.

@EckRD

3 ай бұрын

The good ones won't make it pass MEPs. Due to financial debt or medical history or criminal offense. This would be waived during GWOT or future Ops. Remember, the military doesn't want THINKERS. There is a reason why a large number of troops were kicked out during GWOT. Good or bad, Studs or Turds. The DOD knew troops were being misled and knew it's all BS. Like in the civilian world, your employer makes you work a shift and fires you. 😂

@The_Black_Knight

3 ай бұрын

Standards do frequently change when recruiting suffers. However, it is true societal, development problem when a 50+ year old combat veteran can outperform an 18 year old high school senior in every way possible despite being injured.

Not a domino, just a pendulum swing... We have kids entering the military that have carried a cell phone with them since the 6th grade (if not earlier.) Now you are asking them to quit their digital addiction cold-turkey and expecting that to go well. (Heck, I go through withdrawals when I'm camping out of cell range!) Like all other policies of similar impact, this is going to take a few swings of the pendulum to get right.

Guess it makes sense as conflicts have changed from the old times

There wouldn't be a recruiting crisis if they'd stop denying people over little things like debts in collections, addicts in recovery, or forgetting one time when you were in the hospital, and being flabbergasted that someone would want to forget about a tough time in their past. There used to be a mindset of "someone fucking their life up can turn it around with the discipline they get in the military" which is gone now.

I was Army 1989-93. Were stress cards ever a thing in basic training? or is that all a myth?

Fort Benning has been doing this since what 6 or more years ago

how to get more people: pay enlisted more. I guarantee you that would increase enlistment by a double digit percentage.

Glad I was in in 2010 Fort Knox OSUT US Army. Didn't have to worry about this back then.

As someone that’s really optimistic in joining the Navy, this is going to be an easier transition for me. I can easily learn cell phone withdraw on the fleet, if they can also allow me to check on my phone to make sure my bills are paid on time it’s a bonus and for this.

@James-hs1eq

3 ай бұрын

As someone who's joining the Navy this year as well, I actually see this as positive. As long as there is still no regular access to phones and only limited to like an hour a week or something then I don't see the problem

I graduated Great Lakes in April 1984. I had 3 phone calls , i earned them from pt scores and test scores. 2 during boot camp and one the day before graduation. Of course we weren’t as connected as we are today. On the fleet i would write my girlfriend , she would get the letter 2 weeks later , same the other way , so a month out. Been married to her 35 years.

Let's say you have a business, a stack of credit cards and other adult shit to do. 2 months of not being able to handle your personal stuff can be detrimental. Not everyone that joins is 18-25yrs old. Please note they recruit up to 39yrs old.

@The_Black_Knight

3 ай бұрын

Wait and see what happens when Selective Service is activated...

Man what?!?😂 we had one call

This is not a new phenomenon. It has occurred during multiple times in military history when recruiting suffered or volumes of servicemembers were required. It was quite common in Vietnam, Gulf War, and GWOT. For example, one of my CMDs in early 2000s was OSUT, and we were forced to allow soldiers to wear tennis shoes on road marches even without profiles. I fought for the drills. Another following a FORSCOM combat CMD assignment was USAREC regional CMD and MEPS. This was a real %$#%storm based on ASVAB, graduation, and medical changes. We called it the "pool ball" IQ days despite higher levels of patriotism. All actions through directed choice have consequences.

@golfery5119

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for being a voice of reason instead of looking for some pathetic excuse to shit on newer generation as "soft" or "woke". I really haven't heard of basic training standards becoming more lax in order to attract recruits ( I don't get why really because it's only like two months) but of course I have heard of recruitment standards getting lax to make it easier to join when the military or a branch of it wanted more recruitment numbers ( like allowing people with GEDs without college credits to join , or even allowing those without even GEDs to join)

I got two five minute phone call after each phase of training. The second was optional by the drills but we got smoked for that second call.

Last week of boot camp I got lax around our cool Senior Chief until he caught me with hands in my pocket. Hey chuck! How many fingers in your pockets!? 10 Senior Chief! What's that's squared? Drop! 😅 Div 236 All male of course Battle E & Captains Cup 💪

Only on sunday after church and until lights out

Is it possible to get rp I'm 17 and looking to enlist but my friend in the navy told me it's next to impossible to get rp

@JohnJRambo-zi5fi

3 ай бұрын

thats bullshit lmao

This is just nuts.

Usmc if we drew blood in hand to hand combat we got to make a collect call

Logging into gmail is the worst. I have to use my phone number as 2FA. Then to log into my bank, i need to verify with my gmail. Whenever i get on a new ship. I log into all the computers in my shop so i wouldnt need to worry about it

I see this as a solution honestly, instead of using the payphones just let the recruits use their cell phones then recollect them after they have finished their calls.

I mean, shit, man... about the only thing keeping me from getting my waivers to go back in at this stage is the fact that AMEDD keeps refusing to provide me a copy of my records so I can provide them to my recruiter, seeing as my VSO saw fit not to return my originals to me. Otherwise, I would've been at Great Lakes like 6 months ago...

Nothing suprizes me anymore, the navy i served had respect but not anymore its a joke.

@golfery5119

3 ай бұрын

"back in MY day"

They have Starlink on ships now too. It’s really weird to see them FaceTiming underway. It costs the navy 50k a month

Well, I will say, with Gmail, if you try to log in to your Google account from an unknown device, it will try and use your phone or another secondary device to confirm that it's you. So YES you can use a computer to do banking, but if you need a two-way confirmation from your email, you'll likely need your phone to confirm that log in.

My goodness. Why not just have some quarters on base so "mommy" can come stay with Bobby or Susie during recruit training?!? During the 13 weeks of recruit training we made TWO phone calls. One at the end on first phase and one at the end of second phase. Plt 2083 got an extra call after the rifle range because we had the highest average during qualification, we got "maintenance" during "Mess and Maintenance" week, the Drill Instructors were very happy. Also, the recruit leaders, Guide, Squad Leaders and Scribe were given an extra phone call because of the extra responsibilities we had.

yeah they have wifi on the carriers now. deployment is LAF

Imo something that would help the navy (aside from abolishing mhs genesis) would be implementing a hybrid of job selection between the coast guard for certain ratings and army letting you choose your job

Didn't troops during WW2 get weekend passes to see family but apparently this is soft to some vet bros

@golfery5119

3 ай бұрын

I saw some video on army basic training from like the early nineties or late eighties. In the dfac or chow hall or mess hall (whatever you want to call it, I think the army called it "mess hall" then), they actually had a short order section serving burgers. Burgers for basic. I never saw burgers in dining facility until I actually got operational. And I have heard that up until the seventies or possibly later, trainees at some point during basic were actually allowed to have passes, which was something I could get until late in my AIT time (in early 2018). I have even heard, and I don't know how true this is and if so, when it ended, that trainees in basic were even allowed to literally smoke cigarettes. I'm not talking about "getting smoked" by a drill sergeant for push ups, I'm talking about literally smoking cigarettes. So definitely while there are some things newer generations can do that previous generations weren't, it also works the other way. I've been told by several old timers that barracks personnel were allowed to smoke tobacco inside their rooms, something that would get you into very serious trouble nowadays even if you are in the room by yourself with an open window.

@himehime1629

3 ай бұрын

@@golfery5119 Exactly my point, leave it to the previous generation to say something about the newer military generation and call it soft.

Put the whole squadbay on River City

Bootcamp is 10 weeks now. I guess all those letters we wrote to the LT paid off 🤣🤣 of course they’ll do it now after barely being able to hear my family with those shitty ass pay phones in the NEX

Rome went through the same phase when the empire was in decline. Rome's recruiting numbers were plummeting and they were forced to recruit from the cities instead of their usual pool of hardy recruits from the countryside. Quality of troops were a lot lower and they had make some equipment changes to compensate.

Phones? The only phone I saw was on the DI's desk.

We are waaaaay past basic training teaching any military discipline.

bootcamp is 10 weeks my boiiiii

Ima be honest I dont think they're addressing the real issues as to why recruitment is low.

@JK-dv3qe

3 ай бұрын

the ones at the 'top' are narcissists. they will never be able to 'analyze' themselves to why nobody wants to join. their solution will be conscription in the end. narcissists (especially with 'power') are the most dangerous people. the good thing about narcissists is that they don't stay in power for too long (Marie Antoinette)

@Navy8674

3 ай бұрын

Agree

@sylviamaresca8852

3 ай бұрын

Elmo Zummwalt is spinning in his grave

@EckRD

3 ай бұрын

It's low because there is no point in joining at this time and not appealing to the young crowd today.

@romannavarro1178

3 ай бұрын

They need to pay 20 a hour aleast and work only 8 hours 5 day a week

I didn’t have a phone for 2 years on a religious mission. Got to talk on the phone twice a year and emails once a week which I regularly skipped.

How about we have honor in the military or no dei?

Navy boot camp was 10 weeks long back in 2022

Shid we only got 30 mins n that went down to 25 mins after a recruit died then back to 30 the next week

I went through army basic in 2018 and all i ever got was the initial phone call, and the call you get to make when you're all set and they're getting ready for the graduation; Other than that all my contact with my family was snail mail. Yeah my calls were on my cell but it never really bugged me to not have it, way I saw it, I'm in a safe place, fed, clothed, housed, all not at my own expense. I never had the down time where I'd have wanted it. There was like, an hour every sunday where we were given time to ourselves in our bays to do with as we wished, and everyone that didn't go to church took a nap or shot the breeze, can't say I ever heard anyone talk about wanting their cell.

If they want simulate being at sea they should change the Internet to dail up lol

Wow! I never got a cell phone even in advanced training. Phone call? Only on Sundays.

I would never recommend access to any financial services through a public/widely accessable device

You’re 100% right you have to learn how to communicate through different forms than a phone.