Today were going to be ranking the weapons in the medieval mode found in tf2
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@thecorruptist75268 ай бұрын
The Sandman actually has one niche in medieval mode, in that it can instantly stop a demo charging. Definitely at least a C tier imo.
@brickbattlepro9862
8 ай бұрын
not so niche when 80% of the players are demoknight
@burger-jd8cx
8 ай бұрын
@@brickbattlepro9862 but... that's what a niche is
@Not_Splunge
8 ай бұрын
The fan-o-war is actually good too because if you wanna play a support scout, you can do that instead of just TRYING to kill people with the worst melee options in the game.
@TheMilkshakeMarxist
8 ай бұрын
I think people often overlook the sandman and it makes me sad. That stun effect has secured me many kills, not to mention every successful stun gives a bonus point.
@cewla3348
8 ай бұрын
@@TheMilkshakeMarxist sandman stun hasn't been in the game for years dude
@largin3868 ай бұрын
the spycicle is coded to recharge instantly in medieval mode. its just stock but with cool ice statues
@segadoeswhatnintendont
8 ай бұрын
And also imune to SVF + axetinguisher shenanigans
@aname.whatdidyouexpect1877
8 ай бұрын
The spycice usually switches to your sapper when it melts, but in medieval, you cant, so its a straight upgrade. This also applies to MvM, as the sapper has a cooldown
@killingtime8652
7 ай бұрын
Not sure if is an actual code or just that no sapper
@ZorotheGallade
6 ай бұрын
The latter is unlikely, TF2 usually handles you having no usable weapons by just leaving you empty handed and unable to attack (you can see that eg. in randomizer servers when you lose a spycicle and have passives in the other slots)
@Roebloz
Ай бұрын
Nice Green Black Hole dude
@SirSaizo8 ай бұрын
I always found it funny how the eviction notice, literal brass knuckles which in real life are designed to make you inflict more pain, deal less damage than heavy's stock fists.
@brianregner5209
8 ай бұрын
Heavy's fists are not to be trifled with.
@shaynehughes6645
7 ай бұрын
They also hurt the wearer for some reason
@tryagain1156
7 ай бұрын
@@shaynehughes6645 cold brass makes heavy uncomfortable and thus he takes damage.
@TheImmediatePastPrez
7 ай бұрын
Heavy is just built different
@Croaux
2 ай бұрын
@@brianregner5209 Its both hilarious & horrifying to think that Heavy's bare hands can inflict as much injury as a shovel, bonesaw, or fireaxe can to a human.
@fireblast1338 ай бұрын
fun fact, if you happen to get knocked in the air by a caber demo, that's consideed blast jumping, so technically you can market garden in rare circumstances
@Piece-Of-Time
8 ай бұрын
Sounds like you are challenging me
@fireblast133
8 ай бұрын
@@Piece-Of-Time if you mean, challenging you to get a market garden crit kill in medieval mode? Mebbe....
@Piece-Of-Time
8 ай бұрын
@@fireblast133 yes😈
@erikarsov4365
7 ай бұрын
Gentlemen. I may not have a brain. But I do have an idea.
@Hambrack8 ай бұрын
I find it funny how invisibility devices and teleportation (eureka) can exist in Medieval times, but a jar of piss can't.
@crilll
7 ай бұрын
clearly you haven't heard of the arcane arts
@audiovisualcringe
7 ай бұрын
they knew how powerful jarate + bushwacka is but they had to keep every melee weapon, so guess what had to go
@realPurpleOrb
7 ай бұрын
Merasmus had too much Halloween ptsd
@eltiolavara9
6 ай бұрын
jarate was simply way too OP
@Aaa-vp6ug
10 күн бұрын
You see, Piss was invented by John Pissman in 1987. Before that, we had to sweat all the bad stuff out!
@Roebloz8 ай бұрын
Corrections: -The Third Degree can hit the Medic through a patient if he's using the Amputator, so it's still mildly better than the stock Fire Axe. (Though unlike with medibeams it doesnt connect the hit every target healed by the medic, even if he's the one you've hit) -Holiday Punch still has the fastest and most consistent taunt kill in the game, and given Hoovy's high health it's very hard to interrupt in time, so it definitely deserves some credit (And even if you fail the taunt kill, being stunlocked is still a death sentence for the enemy in most situations) -The Ubersaw DOES have the taunt kill going for it, though whether it matters much if at all is debatable. I'd put it in D personally. -The Spycicle actually has no downsides, as it does not melt in Medieval Mode to avoid you from having no weapon, effectively just giving you free infinite extinguishes and afterburn immunity.
@segadoeswhatnintendont
8 ай бұрын
The spysicle still has the unique ice statue, meaning being stealthy is harder
@KingSlimeZ
8 ай бұрын
@@segadoeswhatnintendont it also has a weird backstab hitbox
@ethanblair981
8 ай бұрын
-MFD turns normal hits into minicrits, not minicrits into crits.
@halt1931
8 ай бұрын
the Fan o War specifically has the effect where it crits whenever it would normally minicrit@@ethanblair981
@devk5645
8 ай бұрын
I thought the huntsman taunt kill was the fastest taunt kill in the game
@genghisdingus8 ай бұрын
It's criminal that you didnt put the killing gloves of boxing in S tier. I have seen and pulled off one man capping last with them critting down player after player. Having what is essentially area denial dps in medieval mode is insane.
@Xarros1
8 ай бұрын
I agree, they are insane
@michlop452
7 ай бұрын
fr heavy is actually the best class for medieval, this video shows the creator doesn't play heavy a lot.
@genghisdingus
7 ай бұрын
@@michlop452 wrong it's sniper cause you can just insta kill anyone at range with the huntsman.
@jimmyneutron3986
7 ай бұрын
fr seen it happen way more than not
@eltiolavara9
6 ай бұрын
yep, you can absolutely wipe an entire server with them
@reax55268 ай бұрын
Mate, how tf did you forget about the regeneration of the Cozy Camper. That's its main upside!
@deskslam4232
8 ай бұрын
Nuh uh
@MorshuGaming
8 ай бұрын
I would disagree for a game mode where most hits deal at least half your health
@jc_art_
7 ай бұрын
@@MorshuGamingwith the hunstman and a good spot, the only damage you need to worry about is other arrows, so having that regeneration is pretty nice when the rate at which the enemies hit you is so low. Also, he mentioned the regeneration as a major factor for the concherer and amputator, why not mention it AT ALL for the camper?
@tedgonzalez985
7 ай бұрын
I just flip-flop between CC and the Razorback, depending on how many spies there are on the enemy team.
@LividImp8 ай бұрын
20:40 *"You're able to taunt kill right after, which is amusing the first few times"* [Checks Strange Holiday Punch] [80 taunt kills]
@Boomblox58968 ай бұрын
Why did you ignore the health regen on the Cozy Camper? It's not like you have many other options for secondary besides Razorback to become immune to Spies.
@ajragle
8 ай бұрын
I'd argue the health regen makes it D or C tier. It's a small upside that's more universal than the razorback, but it's not effectively game changing.
@Boomblox5896
8 ай бұрын
@@ajragle I'd say both are in similar league, but the health regen definitely puts it over Razorback, which only gives you protection from those Spies. Also what happened to Darwin's Danger Shield giving you more max health?
@ajragle
8 ай бұрын
@@Boomblox5896 If it still offers a health boost of any kind it's automatically a C.
@Boomblox5896
8 ай бұрын
@@ajragle I checked, and sadly, they patched out that health boost from the Danger Shield. F-tier it is then...
@bobthebox2993
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the cozy camper ending up in F-tier when the only alternative was the razorback, was just weird. Sure, the effect isn't anything to write home about in medieval mode, but if the only alternative is a weapon that does absolutely nothing unless you get backstabbed, I don't see any reason to not at least put it in D-tier. I think both the razorback and the cozy camper deserve to be in the same tier, as they both can be viable options, and it just depends on the enemy team which one of the two is better for you to equip. A lot of trickstabby spies on the enemy team? Razorback Only a single free to play spy on the enemy team? Cozy camper
@deskslam42328 ай бұрын
Good thing about the Boston Basher: Bleed is easily counteracted by the 5 quintillion small health packs!
@MINICUBANT
7 ай бұрын
And milk
@deskslam4232
7 ай бұрын
@@MINICUBANT It isn't milk...
@halt19318 ай бұрын
I used Bonk a lot in medieval mode - on offence, I would stand and body block the enemy spawn exit to give my team time to capture, and on defence, I would stand in the gateway and block charges. I'd argue it's at least more useful than the minicrit drink. The Third Degree, I believe, also hits players connected by the Amputator's taunt, so that's something going for it
@adudeonthemoon7050
8 ай бұрын
You play the objective in medieval mode?
@Aussie_Axe
3 ай бұрын
@@adudeonthemoon7050how else do you get the battle of all time in the middle of the castle without capturing the objectives to open the gate
@thegaspoweredjohnnyjohn39727 ай бұрын
20:46 It’s sort of endearing to see everyone stop fighting and moving to watch u finished your well earned taunt kill lol
@fluffy_knight8 ай бұрын
Ah yes , Solider. My favourite class.
@bruhuk_obama
8 ай бұрын
I like enginer better.
@fluffy_knight
8 ай бұрын
@@bruhuk_obama nah bro spi is a better option.
@ProWalter2
8 ай бұрын
You're all wrong. Hevy is best
@Joosher56
8 ай бұрын
I can’t believe this slander. Everyone knows that Scott is the best class
@user-js4iv4vw6k
8 ай бұрын
You haven’t heard of Deman?
@SubPriestPepsi4 ай бұрын
The bas jumper is actually how people clip into the trees past the river, so it should be S tier. 😎
@THEBIG-1
4 ай бұрын
Shit youre right my bad
@Ari-qw9ec8 ай бұрын
"guaranteed random crits"
@Learner00127 ай бұрын
The atomizer lets you scale over the wall on our one and only official medieval mode map. Pretty funny.
@screamingcactus17538 ай бұрын
One little tidbit about the Heavy lunchbox items but in particular the Sandvich is that they recharge fully off healthkits, including small ones. As a result a heavy with the Sandvich can effectively pick up a small healthkit, turn it into a medium healthkit and then carry it to a teammate who needs it. This is fairly niche in normal TF2, but I feel like it would actually be very useful in Medieval mode since everyone drops a small healthkit on death, and since respawning healthkits are scarce on DeGroot Keep, picking up dropped healthkits can potentially impact the enemy team's ability to heal
@lassebangsgaard94228 ай бұрын
Sun on a stick with the fireball spell on sandcastle is wild, would recommend trying it while the halloween event is going
@prosto_a_user
6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, cp_degrootkeep_rats, one of my favoruite maps
@ladyinwight8 ай бұрын
huntsman and crossbow arrows count as bullets, so they actually will do more damage to the pain train soldiers
@Moss_Dude7 ай бұрын
The market gardener and third degree can get very specific uses out of their upsides in medieval mode, the gardener if he's launched by a caber, and the axe if it hits a medic who's using the amputator taunt or someone getting healed by it
@animatedprotootype34508 ай бұрын
They changed how the gunslinger works, you can hit someone twice then "store" the guaranteed crit anymore, you need to get all 3 swings within one continuous attack
@vyor8837
10 күн бұрын
no?
@bagl78338 ай бұрын
Cozy camper f tier? My friend passive health regen is always helpful, at least its better than the danger shield
@notveryintelligent6239
8 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s a C tier at least
@crashcan25838 ай бұрын
"The volcano fragment is still a good weapon" That is a phrase I thougt I'd NEVER hear in my entire life
@DarkheartsFacade8 ай бұрын
I love using the sun on a stick whilst my friend uses the volcano fragment, it isn't practical but it's super funny once you actually get a kill with it
@user-lp1to9mg5u6 ай бұрын
Always remember,in medieval times, you could put non-milk in a bottle and make radioactive sodas, but you couldn’t piss in a bottle.
@kahonk2698 ай бұрын
Sniping people with the crossbow is my favorite thing to do in medieval mode!
@Still_in_water7 ай бұрын
In fair defense of the cozy camper, you do get health regeneration overtime which can come in handy when a random enemy or spy shows up and you don’t wanna walk back to spawn or find a health kit which can technically make it a C tier at most.
@danielsurvivor1372Ай бұрын
25:48 Fun fact huntsman CAN flinch although sadly its not that noticeable. Now if cozy camper removed the downside where sniper cant hold arrow for too long or it goes sideways, now THAT would be amazing buff. Even without it I still think cozy camper is nutty unlock helping huntsman a LOT, Although it is less on this gamemode due to abundance of healthpacks, but so long as you dont die to spies often Id still consider cozy over razor
@genghisdingus8 ай бұрын
The atomizer is insane if you know what youre doing with it. You can hop to safety in disadvantagous fights as well as climb the castle before the gate even opened to catch snipers off guard from behind. It's easily S tier if you know all the maps parkour spots.
@audiovisualcringe
7 ай бұрын
“hop to safety in disadvantageous fights” he says when a demoknight knows how to trimp up there too
@salmuttotabreabittlecochicarac7 ай бұрын
Imagine if engine could make a "sentry" that is a ballista, and has to be controlled by the wrangler.
@davidmacdonald18558 ай бұрын
Im a Degroot main, good job with the weapon ranks. The only weapon I would out right ban from medieval mode would be the skillcritter. The reach and crits and 200+ damage is way too powerful for this mode.
@lexip7776Ай бұрын
If you think about it the eureka effect is actualy s-tier, because you can tp to spaqn and change classes.
@simonnachreiner83807 ай бұрын
One thing to note about the battalions back up. If you use it with the half-zatoichi you hard counter any enemies using it. While active the banner blocks the instant kill effect from enemies leaving you free to commit to being the aggressor in a game that favors the shooter, do the math on that one. Combined with the fact that killing another user instantly charges the banner and you get get near total uptime if the enemy team is stubborn. Oh also blocking random crits as a byproduct makes it even more useful.
@Xeraghusta8 ай бұрын
I believe the third degree can also hit through amputator taunt which means that it can be used
@Snapdr4gon7728 ай бұрын
real chill video, felt like watching any other high quality tf2 content, good work
@nacl49884 ай бұрын
There is 1 good use for the Darwins. Enemy snipers standing atop the castle have easy ways to light their arrows. And a flaming arrow bodyshot would kill you. But not with the Darwins.
@GoodlyData865968 күн бұрын
The developers made jarate non useable in medieval mode for the same reason that the gas passer isn’t useable in medieval mode (aside from the fact that 2016 valve forgot medieval mode even exists.), it wasn’t invented yet. Yes I’m not shiting you, the only reason you can’t throw piss at enemies is because the art of jar based karate (shortened to jarate) wasn’t invented until the events of the main tf2 game modes take place (the setting for medieval mode is that the mercs were sent back in time by marasmus and were prohibited from bringing any weapon that wouldn’t have been invented yet.)
@jackirv697 ай бұрын
“The huntsman is the best projectile weapon in the game” The rocket launcher: 💀
@awerelia8 ай бұрын
the banana recharges 3x faster than the sandvich (10s), not 2x faster (15s), despite it SAYING it has a 50% recharge rate increase. this can easily be observed in game by just counting how long it takes for the bar to fill back up, or, just looking at the wiki for it.
@drunkenpotato1438 ай бұрын
21:42 Ok so I actually had the same problem when doing the contract so I tested it. You actually need to hold the attack key for it to count, 3 taps won't work even if it hits.
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
8 ай бұрын
Oh that's how it works. kinda neat
@BuenasSoySimon6 күн бұрын
I once played this mode with my friend, and the strat was simple, they were 2 boxer heavies, and me a conch and disciplinary action soldier suppoeting them, but somehow i ended up in the last point alone against the defense, and somehow i got 3 kills by myself before dying
@dezmas93328 ай бұрын
Loved medieval mode when I played it many years back, demoknight went hard and any new weapon I could get my hands on was a treat
@user-it8re8jv2l7 ай бұрын
Happy 100k 🎉 (been here since 60) I used the skullcutter and sat at the castle control point and random crit a pyro 5 times in a row
@THEBIG-1
7 ай бұрын
Thanks champs couldnt do it without ya!
@TheSecondLaughingSoldier7 ай бұрын
Props to him for not making a mad milk joke
@goodestpupper93117 күн бұрын
The third degree does actually apply, amputator heals count as being healed so all in the healing area get damaged
@RegalRoyalWasTaken9 күн бұрын
I really hope we get some new medieval mode weapons after the bot crisis is sorted out. Iunno like, a fire staff for pyro, a firework cannon for soldier, a ballista for heavy, projectile-based magitek sentries, stuff like that.
@gummybread7 ай бұрын
My favorite part of these ratings is that it sounds like the soldiers shoes were forgotten and had to be recoded later
@THEBIG-1
7 ай бұрын
NOT SO LOUDLY
@elcobra988 ай бұрын
So valve thought that throwing piss at people and then hitting them with a weapon that will crit them with no on-kill rewards was more unbalanced than the guy with 300hp that can random crit you into full crits just for a lower swing speed, while having a free slot for either minicrits, health buff, or full health restore.
@jbigs658 ай бұрын
The Boston basher can be used by a blue to scale degroot keep and get inside the castle before both points are captured.
@MonkeyGng6 ай бұрын
Tf2 is the only fps game that can still be enjoyed after removing all the guns
@FilthyTea8 ай бұрын
Great video, I really respect the use of SM64 Black Hole Sun in the Soldier section.
@hippolyte5248Ай бұрын
In medieval the fragment volcano also has the downside of healthpacks being all over the place, making dot kinda lacking
@FairPlayClubChads8 ай бұрын
Weve all been waiting for it😩
@invhazion81418 ай бұрын
one niche for the bonk atomic punch. you can scale the wall with the boston basher and drink it to survive long enough to get to a health pack
@markcrawford581010 күн бұрын
The third degree applies to medics using the amputator taunt.
@Dombazzy7 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think the Fan O' War should be in D tier because a Fan O' War helps the whole team and paired with the flying guillotine, you can easily kill any light classes and still be able to put out great DPS over some enemies if they survive. Although the 1 increase in bleed damage isn't much, its still paired with 50 damage + the minicrit bonus. Overall, its a great combo, and very underrated. The only problem with the combo is you have to be close, and the only source of actual damage is the flying guillotine.
@isiffrin8 ай бұрын
the amount of footage of spies trying and failing their trickstabs is hilarious
@dimasddfoxy14928 ай бұрын
Ngl Scottsman actually needs the random crit to be good lol
@Brexcon.mp410 күн бұрын
“Demoman is the best class in the game.” Medic has left the building
@jasonlipscomb1236 ай бұрын
Bonk is good for scout knight. If your bleeding and about to die it will save you. I like to pair the 3 rune blade with the bfb and bonk. It makes scout knight a really fun subclass.
@x8c8r8 ай бұрын
We need more medieval mode maps
@twig18464 ай бұрын
I never played but these videos make me want to try! More content please! 🙏
@THEPotMann7 ай бұрын
No but for real, WHO THOUGH IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THAT THE SCOTSMAN SCULL CUTTER CRIT?!
@AnyoneButDarkness7 ай бұрын
The sandman's max hp penalty breaks the threshold for one-shotting with a fully charged huntsman arrow even on bodyshots
@karpai54277 ай бұрын
You can still bushwack crit-a-cola scouts.
@ridgetmacaroni70157 ай бұрын
I think the fan o war deserves more credit, I use it with the mad milk as a pseudo-support scout and honestly do pretty well
@TJ-hg6op6 күн бұрын
I would have to say the zatoichi is S tier, healing is fairly limited inside of medieval mode, and while you do get the small health packs on kill, it isn’t amazing. For large fights, you can keep kicking for a long time.
@areaxisthegurkhaАй бұрын
Bro forgot that the Cozy Camper gives 4+ HP per second.
@darkranger1168 ай бұрын
still to this day im flabbergasted by the fact that valve literally made an entire Medieval Mode, and yet only gave 1 class a legitimate medieval loadout. still mad.
@ChumpstickCharlie
8 ай бұрын
If you're talking about demoknight, the amputator and crossbow are literally in a set called the medieval medic
@mayor63668 ай бұрын
I disagree on the Fan O’War. It’s bad for direct combat but running in and getting single hits in a few enemies can help a lot for supporting your team in my experience
@MINICUBANT
7 ай бұрын
You can only mark one enemy to death at the same time
@qbert86958 ай бұрын
The back scratcher is a gamebreaking evil thing. This weapon alone makes any other melee within it's proximity look like a joke since pyro already has relatively high health, decent movement speed and crits 24/7 with this thing.
@danielsurvivor1372Ай бұрын
16:27 Idk what wiki is yapping about. It does 126 at most A N D in order to do 126 dmg you literally have to be bumping enemy gamer playerbox before hitting them, Aka you'll literally only able to see that 126 dmg against unaware snipers who wont see you coming behind their back and wont move away in casual or some melee users who dont realise they dont need to be that close to do dmg.
@skek698 ай бұрын
8 seconds into the vid and i already think you deserve a bigger audience
@steponmeharder7 ай бұрын
the disciplinary action has the melee Marth grab range
@JeremyBaconThe1st8 ай бұрын
What about BASE jumper? Wasnt that the first multi class item?
@LeBonkJordan7 ай бұрын
>doesn't adjust the tier list screen recording crop after it starts to add extra rows >completely ignores health regen of cozy camper and places it in the direct downgrade tier >pronounces Shahanshah "shanashah"
@canfloph8 ай бұрын
i like the detail that the demoman's chapter name (youtube) is mispelled as demoan and soldier chapter name (invideo) is mispelled as solider reflecting the lore of tf2 that demoman is friend of the enemy's team soldier.
@THEBIG-1
7 ай бұрын
And here i thought my channel was perfect, damn it
@canfloph
7 ай бұрын
i think the comment has unclear, i mean that the spelling errors in the video made a reference to the tf2 lore or i am just overthinking as usual @@THEBIG-1
@ousamadearu59608 ай бұрын
The bonk has a fun gimmick by roleplaying as Gandalf using a kill taunt for any unfortunate soul trying to pass the gates
@M30W3R8 ай бұрын
Doesn't the Third Degree allow you to hit the Medic by proxy heal target if he's using the Amputator taunt?
@coleminer884723 күн бұрын
Cozy Camper deserves at least C tier Because it at least gives a passive hp regen Oh and also the spycicle doesn’t melt in Medieval mode Making it free fire resistance
@justagamer11608 ай бұрын
cool video , medieval mode haves alot of choises surpisingly
@hdog90468 ай бұрын
The Eureka effect is fine on defense since you respawn right next to the point inside the castle.
@Perc10008 ай бұрын
You can use the third degree if you find a medic who is using the healing saw taunt
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
8 ай бұрын
It is the third agree
@Perc1000
8 ай бұрын
thanks@@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
@diegodankquixote-wry32428 ай бұрын
Its criminal you cant use the gas passer in medieval mode. It have been useful outside of mvm for once.
@faken62528 ай бұрын
Even tho' the gaspasser is absolutely horrendous, it would still be fun to see enabled in medieval mode
@TJ-hg6op8 ай бұрын
Nah, the faster swing speed of the jag kinda balanced it out.
@badopinionssquid17358 ай бұрын
I feel like this tier list would be significantly better if it more seriously took teammates into account
@memdic69878 ай бұрын
I love how you call guaranteed crits random
@suzannesmith58218 ай бұрын
Digging the f-zero music
@bmac48 ай бұрын
Conniver's should probably be S for its peak potential given it is *the* spy main knife and now they dont have guns to worry about and all kinds of slopes to stab you on. But it's a hard weapon to truly see the ceiling of if you aren't especially practiced.
@tiaankemp45528 ай бұрын
We making it outta medieval mode with this one
@mateuszczaja60578 ай бұрын
I think that Sandman deserves better, when normally there is no reason to use it at all, in medieval its a great support weapon, basicly you can terrorize some annoying demoknights/spies by slowing effect that have a power of death sentence when used propely. Also including the fact that almost everyone play fast classes there, so there is finally a good reason to slow enemy down to walking speed of the Heavy.. and size of the only medieval map makes ball simply in use way more often
@KyleDavis328
8 ай бұрын
The issue with the slow effect has always been that walking diagonally completely negates the effect. So it really only affects actively charging demoknights and people who don't know better, which is still a fairly good effect, but certainly not worth the downsides.
@regilad_90437 күн бұрын
I dont really agree with the shaunshas placing, sniper is a character your almost never gonna be out on the feild with, so its not bad for the situations where up on the perch area and an enemy sneaks up on you
@fishHater8 ай бұрын
13:50 “it doesn’t guarantee you a random crit”
@lingonberryjam8 ай бұрын
T-TRIMPING WITH THE TIDE TURNER?! The mobility’s insane with that shield, how is that the lowest?!
@Zacjxn8 ай бұрын
ah yes the world renowned solider class
@TMCRGaming7 ай бұрын
actually the tf team had thought about the potential misuse in medieval mode so you wont actually lose your knife, youre just effectively immune to fire and afterburn for free similar to the darwins.
@TF2recommendations-tz2mm8 ай бұрын
>most interesting guns in gaming history >half of them straight out of quake
Пікірлер: 423
The Sandman actually has one niche in medieval mode, in that it can instantly stop a demo charging. Definitely at least a C tier imo.
@brickbattlepro9862
8 ай бұрын
not so niche when 80% of the players are demoknight
@burger-jd8cx
8 ай бұрын
@@brickbattlepro9862 but... that's what a niche is
@Not_Splunge
8 ай бұрын
The fan-o-war is actually good too because if you wanna play a support scout, you can do that instead of just TRYING to kill people with the worst melee options in the game.
@TheMilkshakeMarxist
8 ай бұрын
I think people often overlook the sandman and it makes me sad. That stun effect has secured me many kills, not to mention every successful stun gives a bonus point.
@cewla3348
8 ай бұрын
@@TheMilkshakeMarxist sandman stun hasn't been in the game for years dude
the spycicle is coded to recharge instantly in medieval mode. its just stock but with cool ice statues
@segadoeswhatnintendont
8 ай бұрын
And also imune to SVF + axetinguisher shenanigans
@aname.whatdidyouexpect1877
8 ай бұрын
The spycice usually switches to your sapper when it melts, but in medieval, you cant, so its a straight upgrade. This also applies to MvM, as the sapper has a cooldown
@killingtime8652
7 ай бұрын
Not sure if is an actual code or just that no sapper
@ZorotheGallade
6 ай бұрын
The latter is unlikely, TF2 usually handles you having no usable weapons by just leaving you empty handed and unable to attack (you can see that eg. in randomizer servers when you lose a spycicle and have passives in the other slots)
@Roebloz
Ай бұрын
Nice Green Black Hole dude
I always found it funny how the eviction notice, literal brass knuckles which in real life are designed to make you inflict more pain, deal less damage than heavy's stock fists.
@brianregner5209
8 ай бұрын
Heavy's fists are not to be trifled with.
@shaynehughes6645
7 ай бұрын
They also hurt the wearer for some reason
@tryagain1156
7 ай бұрын
@@shaynehughes6645 cold brass makes heavy uncomfortable and thus he takes damage.
@TheImmediatePastPrez
7 ай бұрын
Heavy is just built different
@Croaux
2 ай бұрын
@@brianregner5209 Its both hilarious & horrifying to think that Heavy's bare hands can inflict as much injury as a shovel, bonesaw, or fireaxe can to a human.
fun fact, if you happen to get knocked in the air by a caber demo, that's consideed blast jumping, so technically you can market garden in rare circumstances
@Piece-Of-Time
8 ай бұрын
Sounds like you are challenging me
@fireblast133
8 ай бұрын
@@Piece-Of-Time if you mean, challenging you to get a market garden crit kill in medieval mode? Mebbe....
@Piece-Of-Time
8 ай бұрын
@@fireblast133 yes😈
@erikarsov4365
7 ай бұрын
Gentlemen. I may not have a brain. But I do have an idea.
I find it funny how invisibility devices and teleportation (eureka) can exist in Medieval times, but a jar of piss can't.
@crilll
7 ай бұрын
clearly you haven't heard of the arcane arts
@audiovisualcringe
7 ай бұрын
they knew how powerful jarate + bushwacka is but they had to keep every melee weapon, so guess what had to go
@realPurpleOrb
7 ай бұрын
Merasmus had too much Halloween ptsd
@eltiolavara9
6 ай бұрын
jarate was simply way too OP
@Aaa-vp6ug
10 күн бұрын
You see, Piss was invented by John Pissman in 1987. Before that, we had to sweat all the bad stuff out!
Corrections: -The Third Degree can hit the Medic through a patient if he's using the Amputator, so it's still mildly better than the stock Fire Axe. (Though unlike with medibeams it doesnt connect the hit every target healed by the medic, even if he's the one you've hit) -Holiday Punch still has the fastest and most consistent taunt kill in the game, and given Hoovy's high health it's very hard to interrupt in time, so it definitely deserves some credit (And even if you fail the taunt kill, being stunlocked is still a death sentence for the enemy in most situations) -The Ubersaw DOES have the taunt kill going for it, though whether it matters much if at all is debatable. I'd put it in D personally. -The Spycicle actually has no downsides, as it does not melt in Medieval Mode to avoid you from having no weapon, effectively just giving you free infinite extinguishes and afterburn immunity.
@segadoeswhatnintendont
8 ай бұрын
The spysicle still has the unique ice statue, meaning being stealthy is harder
@KingSlimeZ
8 ай бұрын
@@segadoeswhatnintendont it also has a weird backstab hitbox
@ethanblair981
8 ай бұрын
-MFD turns normal hits into minicrits, not minicrits into crits.
@halt1931
8 ай бұрын
the Fan o War specifically has the effect where it crits whenever it would normally minicrit@@ethanblair981
@devk5645
8 ай бұрын
I thought the huntsman taunt kill was the fastest taunt kill in the game
It's criminal that you didnt put the killing gloves of boxing in S tier. I have seen and pulled off one man capping last with them critting down player after player. Having what is essentially area denial dps in medieval mode is insane.
@Xarros1
8 ай бұрын
I agree, they are insane
@michlop452
7 ай бұрын
fr heavy is actually the best class for medieval, this video shows the creator doesn't play heavy a lot.
@genghisdingus
7 ай бұрын
@@michlop452 wrong it's sniper cause you can just insta kill anyone at range with the huntsman.
@jimmyneutron3986
7 ай бұрын
fr seen it happen way more than not
@eltiolavara9
6 ай бұрын
yep, you can absolutely wipe an entire server with them
Mate, how tf did you forget about the regeneration of the Cozy Camper. That's its main upside!
@deskslam4232
8 ай бұрын
Nuh uh
@MorshuGaming
8 ай бұрын
I would disagree for a game mode where most hits deal at least half your health
@jc_art_
7 ай бұрын
@@MorshuGamingwith the hunstman and a good spot, the only damage you need to worry about is other arrows, so having that regeneration is pretty nice when the rate at which the enemies hit you is so low. Also, he mentioned the regeneration as a major factor for the concherer and amputator, why not mention it AT ALL for the camper?
@tedgonzalez985
7 ай бұрын
I just flip-flop between CC and the Razorback, depending on how many spies there are on the enemy team.
20:40 *"You're able to taunt kill right after, which is amusing the first few times"* [Checks Strange Holiday Punch] [80 taunt kills]
Why did you ignore the health regen on the Cozy Camper? It's not like you have many other options for secondary besides Razorback to become immune to Spies.
@ajragle
8 ай бұрын
I'd argue the health regen makes it D or C tier. It's a small upside that's more universal than the razorback, but it's not effectively game changing.
@Boomblox5896
8 ай бұрын
@@ajragle I'd say both are in similar league, but the health regen definitely puts it over Razorback, which only gives you protection from those Spies. Also what happened to Darwin's Danger Shield giving you more max health?
@ajragle
8 ай бұрын
@@Boomblox5896 If it still offers a health boost of any kind it's automatically a C.
@Boomblox5896
8 ай бұрын
@@ajragle I checked, and sadly, they patched out that health boost from the Danger Shield. F-tier it is then...
@bobthebox2993
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the cozy camper ending up in F-tier when the only alternative was the razorback, was just weird. Sure, the effect isn't anything to write home about in medieval mode, but if the only alternative is a weapon that does absolutely nothing unless you get backstabbed, I don't see any reason to not at least put it in D-tier. I think both the razorback and the cozy camper deserve to be in the same tier, as they both can be viable options, and it just depends on the enemy team which one of the two is better for you to equip. A lot of trickstabby spies on the enemy team? Razorback Only a single free to play spy on the enemy team? Cozy camper
Good thing about the Boston Basher: Bleed is easily counteracted by the 5 quintillion small health packs!
@MINICUBANT
7 ай бұрын
And milk
@deskslam4232
7 ай бұрын
@@MINICUBANT It isn't milk...
I used Bonk a lot in medieval mode - on offence, I would stand and body block the enemy spawn exit to give my team time to capture, and on defence, I would stand in the gateway and block charges. I'd argue it's at least more useful than the minicrit drink. The Third Degree, I believe, also hits players connected by the Amputator's taunt, so that's something going for it
@adudeonthemoon7050
8 ай бұрын
You play the objective in medieval mode?
@Aussie_Axe
3 ай бұрын
@@adudeonthemoon7050how else do you get the battle of all time in the middle of the castle without capturing the objectives to open the gate
20:46 It’s sort of endearing to see everyone stop fighting and moving to watch u finished your well earned taunt kill lol
Ah yes , Solider. My favourite class.
@bruhuk_obama
8 ай бұрын
I like enginer better.
@fluffy_knight
8 ай бұрын
@@bruhuk_obama nah bro spi is a better option.
@ProWalter2
8 ай бұрын
You're all wrong. Hevy is best
@Joosher56
8 ай бұрын
I can’t believe this slander. Everyone knows that Scott is the best class
@user-js4iv4vw6k
8 ай бұрын
You haven’t heard of Deman?
The bas jumper is actually how people clip into the trees past the river, so it should be S tier. 😎
@THEBIG-1
4 ай бұрын
Shit youre right my bad
"guaranteed random crits"
The atomizer lets you scale over the wall on our one and only official medieval mode map. Pretty funny.
One little tidbit about the Heavy lunchbox items but in particular the Sandvich is that they recharge fully off healthkits, including small ones. As a result a heavy with the Sandvich can effectively pick up a small healthkit, turn it into a medium healthkit and then carry it to a teammate who needs it. This is fairly niche in normal TF2, but I feel like it would actually be very useful in Medieval mode since everyone drops a small healthkit on death, and since respawning healthkits are scarce on DeGroot Keep, picking up dropped healthkits can potentially impact the enemy team's ability to heal
Sun on a stick with the fireball spell on sandcastle is wild, would recommend trying it while the halloween event is going
@prosto_a_user
6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, cp_degrootkeep_rats, one of my favoruite maps
huntsman and crossbow arrows count as bullets, so they actually will do more damage to the pain train soldiers
The market gardener and third degree can get very specific uses out of their upsides in medieval mode, the gardener if he's launched by a caber, and the axe if it hits a medic who's using the amputator taunt or someone getting healed by it
They changed how the gunslinger works, you can hit someone twice then "store" the guaranteed crit anymore, you need to get all 3 swings within one continuous attack
@vyor8837
10 күн бұрын
no?
Cozy camper f tier? My friend passive health regen is always helpful, at least its better than the danger shield
@notveryintelligent6239
8 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s a C tier at least
"The volcano fragment is still a good weapon" That is a phrase I thougt I'd NEVER hear in my entire life
I love using the sun on a stick whilst my friend uses the volcano fragment, it isn't practical but it's super funny once you actually get a kill with it
Always remember,in medieval times, you could put non-milk in a bottle and make radioactive sodas, but you couldn’t piss in a bottle.
Sniping people with the crossbow is my favorite thing to do in medieval mode!
In fair defense of the cozy camper, you do get health regeneration overtime which can come in handy when a random enemy or spy shows up and you don’t wanna walk back to spawn or find a health kit which can technically make it a C tier at most.
25:48 Fun fact huntsman CAN flinch although sadly its not that noticeable. Now if cozy camper removed the downside where sniper cant hold arrow for too long or it goes sideways, now THAT would be amazing buff. Even without it I still think cozy camper is nutty unlock helping huntsman a LOT, Although it is less on this gamemode due to abundance of healthpacks, but so long as you dont die to spies often Id still consider cozy over razor
The atomizer is insane if you know what youre doing with it. You can hop to safety in disadvantagous fights as well as climb the castle before the gate even opened to catch snipers off guard from behind. It's easily S tier if you know all the maps parkour spots.
@audiovisualcringe
7 ай бұрын
“hop to safety in disadvantageous fights” he says when a demoknight knows how to trimp up there too
Imagine if engine could make a "sentry" that is a ballista, and has to be controlled by the wrangler.
Im a Degroot main, good job with the weapon ranks. The only weapon I would out right ban from medieval mode would be the skillcritter. The reach and crits and 200+ damage is way too powerful for this mode.
If you think about it the eureka effect is actualy s-tier, because you can tp to spaqn and change classes.
One thing to note about the battalions back up. If you use it with the half-zatoichi you hard counter any enemies using it. While active the banner blocks the instant kill effect from enemies leaving you free to commit to being the aggressor in a game that favors the shooter, do the math on that one. Combined with the fact that killing another user instantly charges the banner and you get get near total uptime if the enemy team is stubborn. Oh also blocking random crits as a byproduct makes it even more useful.
I believe the third degree can also hit through amputator taunt which means that it can be used
real chill video, felt like watching any other high quality tf2 content, good work
There is 1 good use for the Darwins. Enemy snipers standing atop the castle have easy ways to light their arrows. And a flaming arrow bodyshot would kill you. But not with the Darwins.
The developers made jarate non useable in medieval mode for the same reason that the gas passer isn’t useable in medieval mode (aside from the fact that 2016 valve forgot medieval mode even exists.), it wasn’t invented yet. Yes I’m not shiting you, the only reason you can’t throw piss at enemies is because the art of jar based karate (shortened to jarate) wasn’t invented until the events of the main tf2 game modes take place (the setting for medieval mode is that the mercs were sent back in time by marasmus and were prohibited from bringing any weapon that wouldn’t have been invented yet.)
“The huntsman is the best projectile weapon in the game” The rocket launcher: 💀
the banana recharges 3x faster than the sandvich (10s), not 2x faster (15s), despite it SAYING it has a 50% recharge rate increase. this can easily be observed in game by just counting how long it takes for the bar to fill back up, or, just looking at the wiki for it.
21:42 Ok so I actually had the same problem when doing the contract so I tested it. You actually need to hold the attack key for it to count, 3 taps won't work even if it hits.
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
8 ай бұрын
Oh that's how it works. kinda neat
I once played this mode with my friend, and the strat was simple, they were 2 boxer heavies, and me a conch and disciplinary action soldier suppoeting them, but somehow i ended up in the last point alone against the defense, and somehow i got 3 kills by myself before dying
Loved medieval mode when I played it many years back, demoknight went hard and any new weapon I could get my hands on was a treat
Happy 100k 🎉 (been here since 60) I used the skullcutter and sat at the castle control point and random crit a pyro 5 times in a row
@THEBIG-1
7 ай бұрын
Thanks champs couldnt do it without ya!
Props to him for not making a mad milk joke
The third degree does actually apply, amputator heals count as being healed so all in the healing area get damaged
I really hope we get some new medieval mode weapons after the bot crisis is sorted out. Iunno like, a fire staff for pyro, a firework cannon for soldier, a ballista for heavy, projectile-based magitek sentries, stuff like that.
My favorite part of these ratings is that it sounds like the soldiers shoes were forgotten and had to be recoded later
@THEBIG-1
7 ай бұрын
NOT SO LOUDLY
So valve thought that throwing piss at people and then hitting them with a weapon that will crit them with no on-kill rewards was more unbalanced than the guy with 300hp that can random crit you into full crits just for a lower swing speed, while having a free slot for either minicrits, health buff, or full health restore.
The Boston basher can be used by a blue to scale degroot keep and get inside the castle before both points are captured.
Tf2 is the only fps game that can still be enjoyed after removing all the guns
Great video, I really respect the use of SM64 Black Hole Sun in the Soldier section.
In medieval the fragment volcano also has the downside of healthpacks being all over the place, making dot kinda lacking
Weve all been waiting for it😩
one niche for the bonk atomic punch. you can scale the wall with the boston basher and drink it to survive long enough to get to a health pack
The third degree applies to medics using the amputator taunt.
Honestly, I think the Fan O' War should be in D tier because a Fan O' War helps the whole team and paired with the flying guillotine, you can easily kill any light classes and still be able to put out great DPS over some enemies if they survive. Although the 1 increase in bleed damage isn't much, its still paired with 50 damage + the minicrit bonus. Overall, its a great combo, and very underrated. The only problem with the combo is you have to be close, and the only source of actual damage is the flying guillotine.
the amount of footage of spies trying and failing their trickstabs is hilarious
Ngl Scottsman actually needs the random crit to be good lol
“Demoman is the best class in the game.” Medic has left the building
Bonk is good for scout knight. If your bleeding and about to die it will save you. I like to pair the 3 rune blade with the bfb and bonk. It makes scout knight a really fun subclass.
We need more medieval mode maps
I never played but these videos make me want to try! More content please! 🙏
No but for real, WHO THOUGH IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THAT THE SCOTSMAN SCULL CUTTER CRIT?!
The sandman's max hp penalty breaks the threshold for one-shotting with a fully charged huntsman arrow even on bodyshots
You can still bushwack crit-a-cola scouts.
I think the fan o war deserves more credit, I use it with the mad milk as a pseudo-support scout and honestly do pretty well
I would have to say the zatoichi is S tier, healing is fairly limited inside of medieval mode, and while you do get the small health packs on kill, it isn’t amazing. For large fights, you can keep kicking for a long time.
Bro forgot that the Cozy Camper gives 4+ HP per second.
still to this day im flabbergasted by the fact that valve literally made an entire Medieval Mode, and yet only gave 1 class a legitimate medieval loadout. still mad.
@ChumpstickCharlie
8 ай бұрын
If you're talking about demoknight, the amputator and crossbow are literally in a set called the medieval medic
I disagree on the Fan O’War. It’s bad for direct combat but running in and getting single hits in a few enemies can help a lot for supporting your team in my experience
@MINICUBANT
7 ай бұрын
You can only mark one enemy to death at the same time
The back scratcher is a gamebreaking evil thing. This weapon alone makes any other melee within it's proximity look like a joke since pyro already has relatively high health, decent movement speed and crits 24/7 with this thing.
16:27 Idk what wiki is yapping about. It does 126 at most A N D in order to do 126 dmg you literally have to be bumping enemy gamer playerbox before hitting them, Aka you'll literally only able to see that 126 dmg against unaware snipers who wont see you coming behind their back and wont move away in casual or some melee users who dont realise they dont need to be that close to do dmg.
8 seconds into the vid and i already think you deserve a bigger audience
the disciplinary action has the melee Marth grab range
What about BASE jumper? Wasnt that the first multi class item?
>doesn't adjust the tier list screen recording crop after it starts to add extra rows >completely ignores health regen of cozy camper and places it in the direct downgrade tier >pronounces Shahanshah "shanashah"
i like the detail that the demoman's chapter name (youtube) is mispelled as demoan and soldier chapter name (invideo) is mispelled as solider reflecting the lore of tf2 that demoman is friend of the enemy's team soldier.
@THEBIG-1
7 ай бұрын
And here i thought my channel was perfect, damn it
@canfloph
7 ай бұрын
i think the comment has unclear, i mean that the spelling errors in the video made a reference to the tf2 lore or i am just overthinking as usual @@THEBIG-1
The bonk has a fun gimmick by roleplaying as Gandalf using a kill taunt for any unfortunate soul trying to pass the gates
Doesn't the Third Degree allow you to hit the Medic by proxy heal target if he's using the Amputator taunt?
Cozy Camper deserves at least C tier Because it at least gives a passive hp regen Oh and also the spycicle doesn’t melt in Medieval mode Making it free fire resistance
cool video , medieval mode haves alot of choises surpisingly
The Eureka effect is fine on defense since you respawn right next to the point inside the castle.
You can use the third degree if you find a medic who is using the healing saw taunt
@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
8 ай бұрын
It is the third agree
@Perc1000
8 ай бұрын
thanks@@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257
Its criminal you cant use the gas passer in medieval mode. It have been useful outside of mvm for once.
Even tho' the gaspasser is absolutely horrendous, it would still be fun to see enabled in medieval mode
Nah, the faster swing speed of the jag kinda balanced it out.
I feel like this tier list would be significantly better if it more seriously took teammates into account
I love how you call guaranteed crits random
Digging the f-zero music
Conniver's should probably be S for its peak potential given it is *the* spy main knife and now they dont have guns to worry about and all kinds of slopes to stab you on. But it's a hard weapon to truly see the ceiling of if you aren't especially practiced.
We making it outta medieval mode with this one
I think that Sandman deserves better, when normally there is no reason to use it at all, in medieval its a great support weapon, basicly you can terrorize some annoying demoknights/spies by slowing effect that have a power of death sentence when used propely. Also including the fact that almost everyone play fast classes there, so there is finally a good reason to slow enemy down to walking speed of the Heavy.. and size of the only medieval map makes ball simply in use way more often
@KyleDavis328
8 ай бұрын
The issue with the slow effect has always been that walking diagonally completely negates the effect. So it really only affects actively charging demoknights and people who don't know better, which is still a fairly good effect, but certainly not worth the downsides.
I dont really agree with the shaunshas placing, sniper is a character your almost never gonna be out on the feild with, so its not bad for the situations where up on the perch area and an enemy sneaks up on you
13:50 “it doesn’t guarantee you a random crit”
T-TRIMPING WITH THE TIDE TURNER?! The mobility’s insane with that shield, how is that the lowest?!
ah yes the world renowned solider class
actually the tf team had thought about the potential misuse in medieval mode so you wont actually lose your knife, youre just effectively immune to fire and afterburn for free similar to the darwins.
>most interesting guns in gaming history >half of them straight out of quake
Underated as hell.