Adding time stamps for you so you don’t have to do it yourself. 0:00: intro 2:27: pyro 5:08: demo 6:28 bunny 8:11: heavy 10:19: spy 13:06: headless horseman 15:33: scout 17:57: lucksman 19:48: demo knight 21:23: soldier 23:13: medic 25:18: saxton hale and cbs 26:48: engineer 30:28: sniper 32:17 vagineer 33:01 end

@SpaceGuyOnline

3 жыл бұрын

Real one

@doctoroktoberfest7840

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline yup

@theconductoresplin8092

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline This is really helpful thank you very much

@sgas

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline put them in the description

@Danhala1

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline you forgot the robo saxtron

The original creators of VSH here, want to share some facts: 1)Amplifier was added deliberately as a way to encourage people to group together, because when people are scattered all over the place, the Boss pretty much always wins. At least it was the case back in 2011. 2)Since the Amplifier was pretty much everywhere, the damage curve was designed with the assumption of having the AMP. Same with the Taunt Crits and the Goomba Stomp. 3)There was a plugin that allowed people to respawn, having the shared pool of lives across the team. Each player had their own respawn cooldown that increased with each death, preventing one person from eating the entire life pool. For some reason nobody used or maintained it. Personally, having to spectate the match if you've died early on was a huge issue of this gamemode in my eyes. 4)There was a plugin that added a giant explosive barrel for the Demoman in place of a sticky launcher - it had the rage meter you have to fill by dealing damage and a 5 second fuse and dealt like 2000 damage in a decent radius. Lost to time, I guess. 5)HHH Jr was made in less than a day for the Halloween event, which resulted in rather poor game design. 6)Vagineer was originally made for the April 1st Update and was the first ever boss besides Saxton Hale. Btw, his rage range is lower (at least it used to be when I was around), with the intention to make him more specialized on taking down sentries and scouts, rather than a group of players like Saxton can. 7)Originally, the Boss used to one-shot everything but ubered players. While it's makes sense lorewise, removing this opened much more possibilities. Like, not making the overheal completely useless. 8)Pyro used to have x2 damage than normal. For some reason it didn't stick. Crits were x2 too.

@blok3133

3 жыл бұрын

thats cool

@ProbablyaPurplePerson

3 жыл бұрын

U are amazing

@Rhynx

3 жыл бұрын

Is the reanimator/revives based off of fact 3 listed here?

@Arby6969

3 жыл бұрын

I love the amplifier

@littlebadassgaming

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I wanted to say. I'm honestly really happy I met you, dude. I used to play VSH and FF2 for days at a time, and I still do. But, if you don't mind me asking. 1. What ever happened to that barrel plugin for the demo? Is it still around? Maybe I could convince the folks at Skial to implement it in someway. 2. Ditto for the respawn plugin. 3. Was the X2 Damage for the pyro intended on purpose for his weak damage output? I feel as though I'm constantly dealing damage with crits, etc. But I always end up with less than 3k. 5. Would you believe the Gas-Passer essentially stole the barrel idea for demoman, when it was introduced and given it's own MVM Explosion in VSH?

Okay, I legit seen myself, in a clip and started to laugh because I was standing there shooting my pistol at the boss as a engie.

@crep50

3 жыл бұрын

When did you show up?

@imbob99999

2 жыл бұрын

When

@maxgoose707

2 жыл бұрын

Doing god’s work

@vivelespatat2670

2 жыл бұрын

Cheap damage is free damage

@mememan5130

2 жыл бұрын

When and where?

I think it's funny when I play as spy in this gamemode, backstab the boss once, then die instantly.

@1TheVelociraptor

3 жыл бұрын

just like in the normal game

@justacatwithghostlygibus9823

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why i use the enforcer and crits

@ghoulbuster1

3 жыл бұрын

That's why big earner is so useful, you can run faster than hale after a backstab

@ral-xk7qb

3 жыл бұрын

kuna, after back stab you can survive 1 hit

@user-fe8gx3ie5v

3 жыл бұрын

No f*rries.

24:18 *saving teammates*

@pantuternik

3 жыл бұрын

What's funny about this?

@dabestike7159

3 жыл бұрын

@Pantuternik because he didn’t hit the crossbow shot and the the sniper died

@pantuternik

3 жыл бұрын

@@dabestike7159 Ah, okay i see

also a weapon I find underused for sniper, the Bazaar Bargain. You can get heads for the quicker charge time on headshots, so you can match the Sydney Sleeper's charge time with only 3 headshots

@ZenithBreeze

3 жыл бұрын

It really is. Once, I hit 9 heads on the enemy, I do not remember what map I was in, but it had this huge tall soot in the middle of a lot of green areas, the boss can barely reach me with 2 super jumps, which proves how op it was. I kept pepereing the boss, scoring about 8000 damage, I did die though at the very, very end, since he was a couple of fully charged shots away from losing. Carried my team that day for the first and last time. Love it.

@Crimsn_

3 жыл бұрын

Bazaar bargain snipers are everywhere. I dunno what you mean.

@SMACKDOWN111

3 жыл бұрын

maybe its just the server i play on i find that stocks and sydney sleepers are way more common

@pinneqple_5060

3 жыл бұрын

Bazaar bargain is banned almost every where(replaced with stock rifle)

@ZenithBreeze

3 жыл бұрын

I used to play on the panda community servers, Bazaar was not banned, I would usually run it or the huntsman in small tight maps

So underrated KZreadrs are making underrated tier lists for underrated modes now huh?

@SonofTiamat

3 жыл бұрын

Does it seem like the TF2 KZread community isn't as big as it once was, or is it still as big as it ever was?

@JcoleMc

3 жыл бұрын

@@SonofTiamat when was the last time , you saw a lazy purple video

@SonofTiamat

3 жыл бұрын

@@JcoleMc I only ask because it seems like it was bigger in 2015-2016. Not saying I'm right, just genuinely curious

@RobertFJr

3 жыл бұрын

I'm seeing more up and coming tf2 channels. Even with the game under attack by basement dwellers, it still manages to pull peak player numbers. Also more people have been driven to playing community servers, which means the game can thrive without Valve's 'help.'

@theamazingtoast9606

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated Comment

I feel like this is gonna get more popular once VSH finally works. You just watch.

@neoraptor_

11 ай бұрын

well i just got this in my recommended randomly and I honestly thought it was a new video at first, so probably

@whoopas312

11 ай бұрын

this tier list is mostly outdated now anyways. pyro is no longer f tier cuz there is no rage and there are no weapon bans

@REDOYSTERCULT302

10 ай бұрын

It happened

@jenniferjones9695

10 ай бұрын

Pyro is still the worst because the flamethrower not doing anything he does like 600

@Newbmann

10 ай бұрын

​​@@whoopas312pyro also lost the mega detonator/flare gun which was by far pyros best weapon Oh also phlog damage resistance doing hurts Pyro as well so mmph in not personal battalions to go mental with. So pros viability kinda evens out You got one big general change to the class in exchange for alot of pyros best options getting nerfed.

As a boss, you can escape the huntsman's taunt by doing taunts like conga, forcing the huntsman sniper to do the conga or just dance away from his range.

@fixmakintosh4820

3 жыл бұрын

Vsh is pay to play confirmed

@BigguBosu117

3 жыл бұрын

@@fixmakintosh4820 Also these taunts where you can cancel them at any time are useful for quick crit gain.

@kimgkomg

2 жыл бұрын

As a huntsman sniper, you can look at the boss's feet and still hit them with the taunt, although it's way easier to miss

@PoutyBun

2 жыл бұрын

I love the stupid dumbass idea of escaping an infinite loop by conga dancing away from it

@macetasospechosa9468

2 жыл бұрын

@@PoutyBun only in team fortres 2

There is 1 class you missed, the "That one dude that is using lmao box on vs saxton hale" class.

@epicassassin8502

Жыл бұрын

@@XxXThiccoModeXxX the lamo box?

@CodenameBolts

Жыл бұрын

@@epicassassin8502 it's a hack that gives you good aim

Alone Heavy can't do much against bosses, however with Engis amplifier, Pyros pushes and Medic ubers heavy easily becomes MVP. Heavy is truly the definition of teamwork

@tfclassicengineer1005

2 жыл бұрын

Pyro just gives more rage.

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

Replace the Pyros with Engineer or Heavy for even more knockback and damage.

Pretty sure medic is S, especially when each crossbow shot deals 400 damage and he somehow keeps his uber when his medigun isn't out and ubersaw maxes out his uber instantly

@Buglin_Burger7878

2 жыл бұрын

Not really, think about what the Medic's Ubers actually help with. Makes a single person invincible for a few seconds which only matters if the boss is targeting that person and no one else is near... in which case the boss can just wait around and hard punish you by using anything when your Uber ends or Super Jump away. You can give people crits... but who does these crits actually help? Soldiers and Demos will empty their weapon in the 3 second taunt window meaning wasted Crit Uber reloading... This pretty much leaves Heavies who are slow and have trouble hitting at range and do best when the boss is close TO YOU... or you could have been any class and got those 3 seconds of taunt crits and have an escape tool. So then you have a Crossbow, which if you're hitting with that consistently... well congrats the boss likely is a bad player or you'd be better as a Soldier to provide a Battalion's Backup to your entire team as an effective team wide Uber. The 400 damage seems impressive till you factor in the DPS other classes can offer. Medics work well against bad boss players... but against better ones they are able to be ignored and are a wasted team slot. If teams stick close enough to make use of being able to Uber the boss's target without flaw for the Uber's duration it leaves teams vulnerable to Rage or other mechanics and if you want to provide healing for your TEAM there is a Soldier Weapon which provides healing for the team. The Soldier provides everything a Medic can do and can be a viable alternative... which is why they are in the same tier. Compare this to the Engi who gives his team Healing or Crits... his team an escape tool... a Sentry which slows the boss's assault. Tools which act as a physical wall. Comparatively Medics are weak... hence not S tier.

@mrdeadmemes

2 жыл бұрын

@@Buglin_Burger7878 this all implies that the boss is constantly making the best possible decisions likely, since they aren't an ai, they are not, and will either wait until the Uber ends (giving your team time), or not perfectly dodge the ubered player. that's without even mentioning overheal, which is a complete gamechanger, letting your team not get 1 shot by the boss. yeah, medic isn't as good as engineer, but you just waiving away everything medic can do as being 'not good as engi' despite engineers having to choose between a dispenser or amplifier, of which are completely stationary, so a smart boss (like you were mentioning) would simply target and destroy, likely then killing a few of the dozen players crowding around it, i have to say no. medic, in the right circumstance, is equally as good as engineer. if they weren't, it wouldn't matter, because that's not the point of the character. engineer gives area denial and damage support. medic gives health support.

@daletaylor4242

2 жыл бұрын

Question, what if you get 3 Medics? What about 4? 5?

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

@@daletaylor4242 most servers have a class limit of 3 Medic, I can only imagine how 15 medic would deal with the boss

@Aaa-bi8ly

Жыл бұрын

@@vivelespatat2670half blutsauger/ubersaw, half healing, some will fling between the two

*[Hybrid knight]:* “Am I a joke to you?” Seriously, unless things have changed since I last played, equipping a shield but keeping your grenade launcher means unlimited crits for your pills. The shield means you can dash or trimp away, and an eyelander (or reskin) means getting heads for bonus health and speed. I pretty much exclusively played hybrid knight back in the day, always placing in the top three damage dealers. This subclass easily belongs in A-tier.

@brimp4989

2 жыл бұрын

Dude tide turner and loose canon with max eye lander heads while also knowing how to trimp is an easy way for a boss to target you.

@eved4718

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like either you get mvp with hybrid, or you lose your shield 10 seconds in then die.

@landlockedcroat1554

2 жыл бұрын

same, loose cannon ftw

@manthisjarisbroke9273

2 жыл бұрын

for some reason christian sniper is really weak against hybrid knights

@visa3612

2 жыл бұрын

@@manthisjarisbroke9273 That's because crit pipes inflict quite a lot of knock back and cbs has no knock back resistance.

One funny thing about me and TF2 is that, i have more than 1000 hours in this game but im wost than an gibus player when im playing any normal game mode. Almost 90% of the time i spent with this game was in custom servers/games mod. I fucking love it.

@OutlawedPoet

3 жыл бұрын

I have 650 hours yet I am only casual level 17 because all I play is community servers. funny enough I have hundreds of hours poured into deathrun yet I still suck at most maps on the server that I usually play

@scumknight6074

3 жыл бұрын

As long as you’re having fun in this game, you don’t have to worry too much about losing.

@OutlawedPoet

3 жыл бұрын

@@scumknight6074 that's true. my favorite deathrun map of all time is dr pirate adventure fix which is a really difficult parkour map, and even though it's my favorite, I absolutely suck at it. I was close to beating it one time though

@K11LSCR33N_

2 жыл бұрын

treat every heavy as a hale trust me it works all the time

@eur0be4t3r

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I mostly play Jailbreak

This is the tier list I’ve been waiting for

You should've mentioned that the Pyro can push the hale into map hazards, sometimes into certain doom. HHH Jr. can climb the Skyhigh building you were talking about by standing a bit further from the roof. The Remains of the King sentry strat you mentioned can be stopped by using weighdown to push against the sentry's knockback.

@SpaceGuyOnline

3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough, map hazards are pretty rare in VSH maps and even if a boss does fall into one, unless it's his first match, he'll just super duper jump out of it or if hes being knocked back into it, a quick charge super jump to jump out of it before taking damage. But yeah I guess that's technically noteworthy enough to bump Pyro into E tier.

@thespyfromteamfortress2149

3 жыл бұрын

The DeGroot map has a powerful one, it's just tricky to get the hale near you since it is a pretty useless spot for any other class in my eyes. Oh, also Volcanic.

@brimp4989

2 жыл бұрын

You could also do the little known strat of not charging your super jump all the way to just get over the edge and be grounded before he sentry can push you back. I swear I was the only one on my server that did this.

@thespyfromteamfortress2149

2 жыл бұрын

@@brimp4989 Using weighdown on top of a sentry seems more reliable to me

@hretokimiko3957

2 жыл бұрын

There is also dragons fury. It is a very powerful weapon being able to deal around 300 damage per shot.

Great video! I was going to make one of these for VSH eventually, but seeing as someone beat me to the punch, I do want to add some weigh in: First of all, VSH is a hard mode to talk about since there are so many different versions with minor differences between them. For instance, I've played on servers that give Pyro a super flare jump, which significantly affects his mobility. I feel like there's a lot of minor differences to talk about though so I can understand keeping things brief. With that in mind, I'd argue that Pyro in most of his incarnations is far from F. If you pair him with an Engineer, every spot becomes a jump spot since you can deny Hale access to the Engineer via airblast. If you have a good Pyro who knows not to spam airblast, I could see him being at least C for the potential support he could provide. HHH also has a longer melee range than the rest of the Hales since he uses the Headtaker as his base weapon. This is extremely good for winning matchups like Demoknight since you have even range, but it also gives you a ton of leniency when fighting fast classes like Scout and Soldier. I've alao personally never seen a server that doesn't have the wall climb mechanic, and with practice I find it to be almost as versatile as a super jump. HHH also excels at destroying cheesy maps since he can instantly deny Engineers and Demos the ability to camp. Engineers will build a dispenser and sentry first if they're playing right, so you have a bit of time to attack them before they can have a teleporter set up. Additionally, using a teletrap means that Engineers can't have an escape teleporter set up, so it's a lot easier to brute force your way into nests. I'd consider him around B, though he does take practice and not many like to play without a super jump so I don't see many people pick him. Other than that, great video, and I hope that these community server tier lists continue to pop up!

@Kryogenix2

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a complicated tier list

@philipgelderblom6878

5 ай бұрын

Weapon reskins in tf2...

The Offical VSH. Differences. There are no AMP's or crits after taunting (i think). Uber works the same. Boss (Saxton Hale) Saxton's been going to the gym, or something. But he's got some new attacks, he has the Mantread's on passively. He can also charge up a lunging punch, able fly across the map by sheer strength. He also has a devestating Left hook, able to clean anyone's clock. Also he can ground pound, able to inflcit damage and fling people away. An improtant thing is that there is no rage mechanic, but saxton is basically immue to knockback outside of weapons that solely inflict it. Also, no weapon is blacklisted, but scout only has two jumps, even with the Atomizer.

@tailsmonster12

11 ай бұрын

coulda sworn I was triple jumping in casual vsh yesterday. But even so, that thing with the atomizer has got to be an oversight, right?

@shark-kaboom8813

10 ай бұрын

That scout part is incorrect

Ouch, when did HHH Jr. get nerfed? I remember playing VSH a long while back and that stun on teleport was NOT a thing, which made the teleport downright terrifying. It often made fighting HHH Jr. a race against time, as enough teleports would simply whittle down the red team to nothing.

@Rodrigo-kq3js

2 жыл бұрын

yeah they also nerfed the teleport on any custom bosses, so you cant kill that ONE MOTHERFUCKING SNIPER CAMPING ON A ROCK okay but seriously this is why you dont use bosses that teleport unless there's only a few players its better to just super jump

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

I'll say on that map called vsh_reservoir_v2, HHH Jr. (The map used for the Sniper tier) can build up immense speed by climbing walls and strafing, outspeeding even SH's Super Jump.

Hybrid-knight is the strongest demo. By using tide turner, the eyelander and the primary of your choice, you can have huge damage crit nades from the shield and enough risk to charge into hale and get a swing to build up the 4 heads. With enough practice, you will consistently achieve top damage without dying.

Uuuuuuuuhhhhhh. You might wanna make a redo for this. Because it's an actual game mode in TF2 now

This video just got a whole lot more relevant. Also I was just watching this right before the update was dropped

Just yesterday I played VSH Nucleus and a group of Pyros really bullied Saxton, having the team deal significant amount of damage.

@SpaceGuyOnline

11 ай бұрын

Talking about V-Script Saxton not Plug-In Saxton. They're two completely separate things

Unironically, pyro is the guy who fought against sax all alone in meet the amazing pyro. he did not win, he needed soldiers help. and then sax came back to life.

@epicassassin8502

Жыл бұрын

That’s also a parody of a borderline self parody that is the tf2 comics

Playing with you was so fun man, hope you're enjoying your "American Cuisine"!

@garethbgoogle9396

10 ай бұрын

What?

@ChaseVaccaro-ge3gk

8 ай бұрын

@@garethbgoogle9396 probably an in joke from that match.

I love these 1 looped 3 times spy clip

Pyro is the only class who can still defend himself when being stunned by using "execution" taunt.

@SpaceGuyOnline

3 жыл бұрын

Sniper with the Huntsman Spies with any knife Scout with most bats Demo with any sword Medic with the Ubersaw Heavy with fists Engineer with the gunslinger or frontier justice Soldier in a last hurrah with the escape plan or equalizer Out of those including Pyro, only the huntsman and Ubersaw are worth going for since they actually stun the boss and not just damage him.

@toxic_shr00m

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceGuyOnline On spy, the spycicle can't tauntkill, as it uses the revolver taunt, but yeah.

@d1amondsquare019

2 жыл бұрын

@@toxic_shr00m why would you use spycicle, when there litteraly no way of getting fire damage in saxton hale.

@toxic_shr00m

2 жыл бұрын

@@d1amondsquare019 Not the point. They said "any knife" so I corrected them. Also only two scout melees tauntkill, not most.

@d1amondsquare019

2 жыл бұрын

@@toxic_shr00m welp an stupid correction, seriously spycicle is useless in vsh.

I'd love to see an updated list for the current official vsh

Never thought there would be a meta for this Gamemode And yet here we are

We need vsh official version tier list

15:33 One thing I wanna add alongside for Scout. The Boston basher/ Three Rune Blade can be used to build up Uber with your medics. (It’s a trick most pros use in usual TF2 but it can also be applied here in VSH) It can also be used to explore and get into places Hale either A: needs to super jump or rage in order to stop the scout from doing damage.

@nnirr1

2 жыл бұрын

Scout can also be quite effective on servers supporting goomba stomp. You can use force a nature to have tons of tries and out damage most of the team

@baronvonpicklez2806

2 жыл бұрын

does medic Really need another way to charge uber tho?

One saving grace I will say for pyro is that on maps with pools of water, a pyro with airblast can force the Hale or whoever to stay in the water and swim so they don't have nearly as much mobility. I've done it a few times before and it can completely stall the boss' progress for as long as you can keep them in.

@storyfellchara416

Жыл бұрын

Especially if you have Neon Anihilator to use in those map having water

@thewholeofdainland256

Жыл бұрын

I know this was 8 months ago but pyros placement pissed me off. No mention of the gas passer or dragons fury. The gas passer has explode on ignite, which deals 350 damage. Assuming one isn't a coward, tou get the gas passer back like every 20 seconds at most. The dragons fury requires a little bit of aim, but 80 damage per hit on burning target is really good for damage. If Hale doest target you right off the bat, you can rack up a lot of damage. I've personally gotten to around 3,000. Pretty high and consistent if Hale doesn't have a burning hatred for you.

@thunderspark1536

11 ай бұрын

​@@thewholeofdainland256Not to mention crits stack with the triple damage of hitting lit enemies.

@HappyBeezerStudios

8 ай бұрын

Oh wow, a couple Pyros to keep the boss swimming and a bunch of heavies to rain fully automatic hellfire from the shorelines should work. Add engies to for ammo and things become a slaughter.

this aged really well

boy this really applies to the official one.

The only reason I don’t want to play vsh with ransoms, is because if you can’t respawn, you’ll spend most of your time dead, and it isn’t fun when you are just dead for basically forever

There was a new boss added to the first map you played in, and he looks really good, its basically a robot Saxton hale whos special turns him into a sentry buster.i don't know if he is only in that server, but he is there lol

@Rodrigo-kq3js

2 жыл бұрын

its a custom boss, i THINK hes just saxton hale but his rage turns him into a sentry

@ZorotheGallade

Жыл бұрын

@@Rodrigo-kq3js That thing is crazy. Basically Hale but after stunning players you can just kill them all in one hit.

@Loner098

Жыл бұрын

Where exactly should the Robo Saxtron Hale sit on this tier list?

Little did he know...

I believe that all classes are able to express themselves in different ways. There are maps where there are many or few first-aid kits and ammo. Classes that can quickly escape by spending HP will feel great on the map with a large number of first-aid kits, but with a small number of them, they will not be able to easily escape

I remember one time I was playing VSH and I was the Easter Bunny. When I used my special, it glitched and it just gave me the normal Grenade Launcher to use as much as I like... There was no survivors.

This needs an update now

if the bfb isnt blacklisted, use it. its extremely helpful because its easy to get boost with the cleaver and wrap assasin, and losing boost is really hard because youll be one shotted anyway, and double jumping doesnt matter because you can just get the boost again easily

@brimp4989

2 жыл бұрын

God please don’t encourage that. BFB is more annoying than snipers on vsh_toys

@nieto00

2 жыл бұрын

I played on a Sever that had the bfb able to be equipped and it just gave a short speed boost with no movement speed penalty I think if you hit a meatshot.

on a server i was on the battalion's backup summons dead players as bat scouts, its funny but quite useless

@besnick

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, it could be very useful, distracting the boss while reviving other players/getting crits/getting uber/escaping

@infintefenix9944

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know what the server is called ?

@HellcatMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@besnick i think he meant enemy scouts like scouts that attack the players

@blueyandicy

2 жыл бұрын

@@HellcatMonkey no, he means friendly scouts that only have a bat

I almost went on a defense on Pyro but then I realized this is about the Old VSH.

I can't believe it took me this many years to realize Saxton's chest hair is shaped like Australia.

He should make a new tier for the official VSH gamemode

29:23 does this man play without quickswitch?

@maestrofeli4259

2 жыл бұрын

what is that

@devlintaylor9520

2 жыл бұрын

@@maestrofeli4259 it makes you switch weapons like any other fps game, it took me a while to find out that that was an option you could turn off

I remember playing this game mode years ago. Combine that with the fact that I recognize almost every track used as background music in the video, and wow... what a nostalgia trip. Thanks for making this video.

Remake the video sometime?

2 years later and VSH has become an official part of TF2

you forgot to mention that goomba stomping is very effective, so playing scout with the force a nature is really fun, trying to get altitude on the boss and then dropping down on him is always fun, especially if you juke them as well. best loadout would be force a nature, bonk (if not black listed, if it is use the winger) and the atomizer

"On top of that, your airblast can greatly annoy your teammates" Is that not why you play Pyro..?

@Mr.Crabapples

2 жыл бұрын

No wonder your comment only has 15 likes.

Press F to pay respects to pyro

@drawingcrabs7046

3 жыл бұрын

F

@storyfellchara416

Жыл бұрын

F

@thatcanadaguy3098

Жыл бұрын

F

@storyfellchara416

Жыл бұрын

F

We need a follow up for the official version

I have never even heard of this gamemode. Guess I have something new to try.

@OutlawedPoet

3 жыл бұрын

play more community servers

@cralo2569

2 жыл бұрын

what claude said, there is a whole new world waiting for you in community custom maps and gamemodes

Pretty cool to see someone making such deep content for a game I used to call my bread and butter. This vid really reminds me of the glory days of spending all my hours on saxton hale trying to do as much damage as possible, great vid overall.

Long have I waited for this tier list.

I remember a long time ago, there was a server that would automatically switch the last member of the RED team to a Pyro (fully healed and ammo restocked) because they thought Pyro was actually the _best_ match for VSH. Granted that was a while ago, there may have been lots of balance patches since then

@theovermind6041

2 жыл бұрын

lmfao

@thegreensunsetgroup2501

2 жыл бұрын

you either die a hero, or live long enough to become a pyro.

Time to re do this lol

I've recently been getting into VSH, and this is a really good vid! Thanks!

holy shit this dude used advance wars music, i loved the original and playing against sturm and eagle. you deserved a follow for this and your mega valid chart

Okay but hear me out, dragons fury and mvm buffed gas passer

Man this footage is super nostalgic, used to play this mode and these maps all the time. Also I remember Pyro used to be pretty good due to pre-nerf reserve shooter critting the hale when they were in the air at all, even when they were jumping.

I absolutely love that you used that LoZ music for the bunny boss. I'm so glad people remember that weird bunny form link got, easily my favorite zelda game

The most fun I've had in TF2 was in VSH. Like seven to ten years ago, a Steam group/forum called OzFur ran a server that did interesting things with boss concepts and balancing that nothing I've seen since has even come close to matching. I miss it so I'm gonna gush about it. Bosses had passive effects and you could select modifiers to change how the game was played. There was sudden death if the rounds dragged on for too long. Last man standing was forced pyro so you didn't have to worry about circlejerking with a scout, spy or soldier. Bosses had interesting rages which could be used at 100% or 200% for increased effect. Saxton Hale passively had 50% knockback resistance and could rage to fear anyone nearby, gain invulnerability, and kill anyone that touched him for a while. Christian Brutal Sniper did not take % HP damage from backstabs, always killed anyone they hit unless uber'd, and could rage to force everyone to charge at him. Captain Falcon didn't lose rage unless he killed someone with it, and could perform a falcon punch to dash forward, killing anyone in a line that wasn't uber'd (stunning them instead). Gabe Newell prevented Medic from doing a thing they could do by spending 100% uber to summon a dead player as a vampire Heavy since he "banned" any player killed, and could rage to cause everyone on the enemy team to enter Valve Time, experiencing massive input delay. DC's Joker didn't kill enemies, but turned them into vampires on hit which had friendly fire enabled, lost health slowly and were forced to melee teammates that got too close to them, and could rage to swap the position of everyone on the map while bringing in intense visibility restricting darkness and inducing a temporary vampire state in addition to allowing him to kill. The Guardian turned the match into hide and seek on round start, complete with vision restricting darkness. Everyone was forced Demoman and all forms of communication were disabled. You could only hide and wait out the round to win. Shame the whole thing fell apart because of drama and the owner deciding to just pack it in. They didn't keep the server files either so it's just gone forever.

you should probably make an updated version of this

I love this! I'm so glad that this game mode is getting so much more attention.

This video is excellent, also, the music choices are really good

Love playing VSH and FF2, always have trouble finding places to play it though, not sure why. Great video!

they made the pyro bad for this game mode and adding an extra ubersecond for the vagineer with airblast if it removed a second then pyro could be ranked a little higher

@vierzehn575

3 жыл бұрын

just a little??? vagineer rage would be made near useless by a pyro

@supermaximglitchy1

3 жыл бұрын

@@vierzehn575 it’s just 1 second

@vierzehn575

3 жыл бұрын

@@supermaximglitchy1 just fucken spam airblast

@supermaximglitchy1

3 жыл бұрын

@@vierzehn575 nah it’s just 1 boss so pyro would still be low

Hey, literally my favorite tf2 youtuber!! Let’s watch this baby!

I was not begged out of my subscription good job

I appreciate the flags for the songs. I wish more creators did this.

Pyro has one use case air-blasting the boss away from medics

vsh got added into tf2 bro no waying

Thank you for getting me into this awesome game mode.

Bro predicted the future

@TordBot69

10 ай бұрын

my man, the gamemode in the real game was based off of this gamemode

Will be expecting more Tier lists soon, this is a threat.

@SpaceGuyOnline

3 жыл бұрын

H U H

@Zenioitih

3 жыл бұрын

H U H

mark my words i will find poopy joe one of these days

I love the transition

Love your vids, bro, keep it up

i really love playing medic because i get to save a lot of people's asses when the boss rages, also I play FF2 (freak fortress 2) and medic receives 20% uber for every crossbow hit on the boss, which is pretty insane edit: 2 years later, the server i play on has removed all these things for medic sadly :( but hey there's goomba stomping now! edit 2: actually nvm it was bugged and so medic gets 20% again! but no crits so my dopamine receptors are lacking

@erikstrindberg2520

3 жыл бұрын

which server do you play on? i used to play on leathal zone with they closed theirs a couple years back

@ihappydawnz

3 жыл бұрын

@@erikstrindberg2520 I play on Skial's server

You didn't mention Gun Spy's potential. Deals huge damage, greater than most mercenaries and has a high survivability. The main weapon in this mode is not a knife, but a revolver that always has a mini-crits, which provides incredibly high damage from all ranges. You use the knife as a last resort or when you are sure that you can do backstab. The main feature is that you shoot the revolver all the time, and when the boss wants to kill you, you either try to trickstab him (sometimes it worth it), or you jump out on his damage ,being invisible ,by jumping right before he will hit you If you combine this with a YER it gives a reduced decloak sound volume. Boss won't be able to track you down and kill you. If you die a lot because you don't have time to charge up your watch, you can play Big Earner, which gives you speed boost and charges your watch just for hitting Boss. L'Etranger removes a VERY much damage Spy could do, so not. The Ambassador deals HUGE damage, but takes away the ability to spam the Boss, and if you don't have good aiming, you're likely to miss most of your shots. But I think you can try it. As a result, Spy is able to deal more damage than Demoknight, not as fast as he does, but is able to double the damage of Demoknight for an entire round as he is just less of a Glass Cannon. (Spy can backstab, but don't forget he has a good gun) Sorry for bad english

@magmacube8689

3 жыл бұрын

Your English is not bad, my friend.

@nyxo7

3 жыл бұрын

@@magmacube8689 I wrote this with a google translator but thanks

@OutlawedPoet

3 жыл бұрын

I find the revolver useless if the hale is mildly decent. if there's a hale constantly super jumping or flanking the enemies via super jump then it's almost impossible to hit your shots unless you're an absolute god at the revolver

@nyxo7

3 жыл бұрын

Each first shot from the revolver is 100% accurate, just point and click

@vivelespatat2670

Жыл бұрын

Worth mentionning that the Enforcer 20% damage bonus apply while undisguised and stacks while disguised, if you have an AMP nearby and only shoot while disguised, you can do 170+ damage per shot, turning you into a diet Sniper.

The server that you were playing on in the beginning in one that I play quite frequently. The classes I usually see getting top damage on that server are soldier, spy, sniper and demo. Sometimes pyro with the gas passer can do a lot, but it can be as risky as playing spy to pull off. Medic on that server is OP because he can revive everyone once per game. The server's name is BlackWonder and it runs the map Reservoir 24/7.

@blok3133

3 жыл бұрын

I play on it frequently too lmao

Damn this video was pure nostalgia the first thing i did in TF2 5years ago was playing this mode i remember one server that had a sh*t ton of modded characters and it was awesome great video

I hope your ready to make a sequal for the new vsh mode they added

Hi there! 2500 hours on Vsh player here. Just wanted to share my thoughts on some of the classes potential and bosses aspects. *The Easter Bunny* might at first seem the worst boss, but actually it's really good against more experienced players. You see, all of the bosses have the same jump height. Players get used to this, and position them selfs in places the bosses can't reach them. And here's where the Bunny shine's because players sometimes forget about the higher jump or just underestimate how high he can actually jump, you can often catch overconfident players thinking they're safe. Also the crit eggs which fall after killing a player is also pretty useful against classes that need to be hit more than once. Dead ringer is a great example, since the spy using it simply cannot survive a crit mele hit from the boss even with overheal. The same goes for overhealed Heavies, medics exc. *The horseless headless headtaker Jr.* Actually has a small knockback resistance. It's something few people know about, but shooting him with for example the rocket launcher doesn't make him go flying as far as the other bosses. *Pyro* is definitely the worst class for Vsh. Airblasting at the wrong time can be devastating for your team. He requires a lot of skill and game sense to be useful, since airblasting at the right time might save your team from an lethal rage. It's obviously better for 5 people to survive the rage and to give the boss about 30% of it back instead of just watching your team die. Also the backscratcher is very useful, since the medic can build Uber very quickly. *Scout* .I'm kinda disappointed you didn't mention the babyfaces blaster and crit-o-cola combo. It's the most powerful combo for scout. Dealing damage to your self makes the babyfaces blaster fire far quicker than before. Using the the crit-o-cola with that makes scout deal insane amounts of damage in just seconds. Probably the best choice for scouts on Vsh. Also the Boston basher is really good to help with the blaster and cola combo, since you can damage your self for that extra firing speed very quickly. Also medics can build Uber quicker similarly to the backscratcher. *The huntsman sniper* is really good. But did you know you can completly destroy a taunt killing huntsman by using the conga or any other dance taunt? It will stop the sniper from taunt killing the boss and make him dance. It's really funny sometimes to see the snipers reaction :D

The tf2 tier list we didn't ask for, but the one we needed the most.

1. I know I’m late 2. The way you explained your placement of classes in a tier list is a satisfying way that, in some way, should work with every other tier list video out there.

i have been playing VSH since 2014 and it's legit the only game mode i play. Although i don't agree with everything you say in this video, i still really appreciate that a proper in-depth analysis has been made on this game mode.

@marjar___7121

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you mr mumbus sir +rep

@ir0nxh3art

3 жыл бұрын

Lol i saw you in a server playing hybrid knight. Bruh you fucking solo that boss

@ravels700

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, demo with pipes charge and highlander are high tier, same for spy, medic and engineer. A good spy, medic, engi or demo can easily deal more than 10'000 dmg solo

@tems9552

2 жыл бұрын

-rep, called me the n word for playing demo man

@tems9552

2 жыл бұрын

@@marjar___7121 -rep bad medic

Ok now do it again

I was able to find the sniper before you even finished your sentence 😎

Probably my favorite Community gamemode in TF2

remake with official game mode??

The Easter bunny in an enclosed room.... his rage would be quite deadly since the stun from the rage makes it difficult to escape

@voidwalkerbruh7426

11 ай бұрын

And the greamdes dear god

30:54 Spotted the sniper. He's hiding behind several trees under the cracked rock face.

I dont even play VS Hale... or really tf2 in general and yet I'm still watching this 34 minute video

actually phlog pyro is quite effective at doing damage. I still wouldn't use pyro tho lol

I expected you to mention the Dragon's fury ): Also the Thermal Thruster is okay-ish to escape, this due to (most) servers allowing you to launch again mid air

@_4shy

3 жыл бұрын

same I dunno why he didnt mention the DF. Im guessing if he did he'd just say its inconsistent. When the DF hits it hits really hard.

@BritishSoldier-kr9xf

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't mention it cause I see barley any pros use the DF

@DL-SUFF

3 жыл бұрын

@@BritishSoldier-kr9xf I mean, Me neither, but that doesn't mean the weapon doesn't exists!

@BritishSoldier-kr9xf

3 жыл бұрын

@@DL-SUFF After a day or 2 of saying that I was hale fighting a DF

@niviera7807

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i use both of them and after 2-3 hits Dragon's Fury deals a shit ton of damage. Then i flee with my Thermal Thurster to get ammo and move back in.

Damn good song list 👏

Talking about the HHH Jr. Teleport, i was once looking for the last remaining member of the red tram after taking out other reds. The timer is running out and i decided to do a teleport to find where he is, then i found the engineer with a teleporter and before i can react, i get telefragged