"A massive moment" 2 jumo engines turning and burning !!

Im speechless. I never thought we'd hear Jumo 004s again, this is incredible.

Great to hear what they would have heard 75 years ago.

@supermemegenerator267

3 жыл бұрын

I agree that’s a nice sound

@EnterpriseXI

2 жыл бұрын

Well remember those engines went through a complete rebuilt and using modern materials so they would be more reliable. Meaning the sound is probably different then what would be heard if the engine was stock. So this is probably the closest we will get to a original jumo 004 engine running

@stranraerwal

Жыл бұрын

they wouldn't have heard the same sound. These turbines here are built by GE.

@fleisbester612

Жыл бұрын

@@stranraerwal No, these are replicas built the same way as the original Jumo-004 but with better alloys.

@univrzsal

10 ай бұрын

no. they were the original ones. Some parts were replaced with Better alloy built modules. For example the turbine is now i believe titanium if i can remember correctly@@fleisbester612

Imagine what hearing this sound would have felt like in the 40's, it must have been like hearing alien tech.

@ScubaSteveM45

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine having to outfly that in some prop fighter plane 😬⚠️

@ottovonbismarck2443

3 жыл бұрын

Actually Adolf Galland after his first flight stated that it was very quiet and smooth in flight compared to any prop-driven aircraft. "As if angels were pushing" he said. He also noticed that it was no big deal to learn how to fly it. Galland was a very experienced pilot, though. Anyway, if this "shark" isn't the most beautiful and dangerous looking aircraft of WW2, I don't know. And it's a huge aircraft as well. As a teenager I saw one in a museum and could barely reach the gun muzzles (at 1,80m).

@something7239

3 жыл бұрын

@@ottovonbismarck2443 I mean, Adolf Galland was sitting in the cockpit, even a Super Hornet is pretty quiet inside compared to the outside. I'm talking about what anyone on the ground would have heard.

@roberts9095

Жыл бұрын

@@something7239 Turbochargers existed back then, anyone familiar with the distinct whistle of a turbo or supercharger would recognize a gas turbine as sounding very much like a turbocharger, but louder and without the noise of a reciprocating engine accompanying it.

@carlnapp4412

4 ай бұрын

It was alien tech.

What a project! Well done

A layout that is practical to this day. Just look at any twin engine airliner with the engines under the wings and you see the legacy of the Me-262.

Absolutely amazing. The amount of work it must have taken to get rare engines from basically the first operational jet aircraft to run is immense. Also, I appreciate that you've kept the original livery of the aircraft intact... Feelings be damned.

@FiveCentsPlease

3 жыл бұрын

+ Nick Estes A turbine shop in California was subcontracted to rebuild the Jumos with a lot of new metal. It took them 10 years.

So they had new turbine blades made out of modern metals to make the engines practical and reliable? I heard that somewhere. I guess with today's 3d scanning tech and cnc tech and a steamer trunk full of 100 dollar bills anything is possible. I would love to learn more about what was done. We airplane nuts are so luck to have wealthy patrons who have the same love of airplanes to save and rebirth these machines for us to appreciate. I never thought I would see a stuka or fw190 fly in my lifetime. Too bad Paul passed before seeing this.

@FiveCentsPlease

4 жыл бұрын

+Rv4 Guy The museum discussed the engines and a lot of other details during their Me-262 presentation. I am not aware of an in-depth discussion or book on the engine restoration specifically, but that would be very interesting. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3V2z6WRp7vFhaQ.html

@PNolandS

4 жыл бұрын

When your 262 doesn’t fall apart after flying for 30 minutes.

@maxrpm2215

4 жыл бұрын

All parts would of been reverse engineered on a CMM. Cad models made and on to CNC 5axis milling. Any rotating or heat affected engine internals made from Inconel and Titanium with the possibility of IN100 used. They could also be work ing with original drawings?Thats my best guess?

@leneanderthalien

4 жыл бұрын

@@maxrpm2215 if made with modern materials and machines and probably modern fuel regulation this is very far from a Jumo original engine...The original engine had a maximum TBO of 25 hours, was very difficult to handle because manual regulation (if too fast push from the power lever, the engine did pumping can get fire or explode...)...Ist not for nothing that this engine was never copied, the me 262 same thing: had aerodynamic fails (tail defect) = loss of controll at speeds over 950km/h...

@cobusvanderwalt8877

4 жыл бұрын

Awwww! Your comment is beautiful poetry, man.

That is just beautiful! To see The Schwalbe once again with its original engines... absolutely amazing! 😊

I hope one day we’ll see this original jumo powered 262 fly

I Never thought I'd see nevermind hear and my god also moving under it's own power an ME262. Incredible!!!!! Congratulations. When this takes to air your going to see a grown man cry.

@VidarrKerr

2 жыл бұрын

Grown *Men* cry. LOL.

The engines sounds exactly like they should sound. Can't wait to see this old bird fly

Congratulations on this project. Simply fantastic. 2:50 illustrates the heat build up; you can begin to appreciate why the originals had such short life spans (and the incredible engineering talent in designing those first axial flow engines)

@konni6694

6 ай бұрын

Partially the short lifespan of the JuMo 004 was a result of a shortage of nickel and molybdenum in Germany. The A-version that still used those alloys had a rather similar time between overhaul as the first gen Rolls Royce Wellands of the Meteor, despite being vastly more complex and delivering about a third more power. The B-spec of the JuMo was the one with a comically low TBO (25 hours or so) despite being tuned down by about 20%

Hope the new owner of the museum allows this project to continue as I really want to see an Me 262 with jumo engines fly again

@alanholloway1264

7 ай бұрын

I have read that work is commencing again on the 262 so that is a promising development

@fredgarv79

4 ай бұрын

a few days ago I went to a up close viewing of it and they said well, it could fly, but he new owner has not said anything about it and will not tell the people who work there anything so nobody knows if it will ever fly and the consensus was it probably will not, due to it's rarity. They all say they hope these planes will fly again, but nobody knows and their is rumor that he might move the museum. They do have "run ups" where they taxi around but they said that restoration is on hold for all of them, just maintenance

@marvinrausch1735

13 күн бұрын

@@fredgarv79So the Stuka won’t fly too? Pretty sad to hear… it’s still a plane and not a taxi.

@fredgarv79

10 күн бұрын

@@marvinrausch1735 yes it's been 15 months since the museum opened and they will not say whether anything will ever fly again. Just that they are doing some maintenance on them and they start them up once in a while. The Stuka is still in pieces, they have not even put it together so you can see it. Just the wings, the engine is on display, the cockpit, etc. They are doing outside run ups this week and taxis of the bf 109, the FW 190, P-51 and the Mosquito which I have seen fly and it's very impressive. I saw it fly once right over my head with all 4 engines growling and it was so cool. I had hoped this summer they would return to some flying shows but they didn't. So I'm not hopeful. If you go to my channel I have some videos of past shows

Maybe one day soon, with metallic 3D printing advances, we'll be able to resurrect more of these fascinating old planes and get them flying again. Here's hoping that humanity doesn't implode beforehand. Massive kudos on getting the original Jumos airworthy again. Amazing!

Awesome to see how well she’s coming along. Can’t wait to hopefully see her fly someday.

I remember going to the museum last summer, and seeing their restoration efforts on the Ju-87 Stuka. We asked about it, and while the man was explaining to us that it’ll be flight capable on the original engine and all, he mentioned the 262. I had no idea it was this close to being flight worthy. Can’t wait!

@jimmygetsome

2 жыл бұрын

will they add the jericho siren? my life will be complete when i see that thing making the noise while flying!

@PNolandS

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimmygetsome It's an R model, so I doubt it, but that's assuming they ever restart operations again.

@jimmygetsome

2 жыл бұрын

@@PNolandS what if i find people who pay for the rebuild?

I got to participate in some of the restoration on this plane. It was a privilege

A technical masterpiece, what a magnificent achievement still relevant today.

Amazing! What a fantastic plane.

I love this- to hear the original sound of these engines. The most aesthetically pleasing fighter plane of WWII ...er... well right up there with the Spitfire, Mustang, Mosquito, Corsair, Zero, Hien, Macchi 202, ...well, one could go. The point is, they all have a style and beauty all their own, I think, commensurate with times in which they were built. The ME 262 foretold the future, however.

Wunderschöne Maschine. Gratulation Leute

wow sounds and looks amazing! Great work!

sounds like a 707 as it spins up.. i would imagine the 707 engines are based a similar engineering design concept, just, more advanced. Wonderful sound.. love it.. no crappy music to ruin the moment..

I have followed this airplane around since I was a child. First time I saw it, it was at Cable, Claremont Airport just north of San Bernardino near the Cahon Pass. Looked old and forlorn, but to a kid it was beautiful. Over the years it was moved about, Planes of Fame/Cars of the Stars near Knotts Berry Farm, Chino Airport, and maybe one or two other places. I never dreamed of seeing it move under its own power, with its engines running. There are so many stories about this plane.

Wonderful! And the ground crew is so confident there’s no fire extinguishers there!!

Looks and sounds outstanding.

Beautiful sounds and plane thanks for not removing the beautiful swasti too.

Fantastic to see history comes alive

That's amazing!! That's the real Deal!!!! I can't wait to see it in the Air!!

A piece of art.

Amazing guys! Hope I can get Huie Lamb out there for the debut flight when covid 19 dies down!

Wow what a Projekt and what a very good work I hope she will fly again Take care Yours Frank

this is awesome!

Great job everyone! I am looking forward for the day that it takes to the air again. What was the source of the smoke in the left engine?

So refreshing to see this is NOT a Politically Correct ME 262.

@milouplop

3 жыл бұрын

damn you're right, it's a good thing to see on those birds, they're part of the history, why those butthurts always have to remove svastikas...

Just amazing

Wooohoo! This is epic. Also what is in that little metal tube flask mounted on the side of the engine?

Very nice sound

Wonderful.

Outstanding

Beautiful camo.

Has it flown yet? What an amazing sound to hear!

@FiveCentsPlease

Жыл бұрын

+@brandon8968ford Museum owner Paul Allen died from cancer and his sister was the only heir to his estate. He had arranged from his fortune to fund the museum, but his sister put a hard stop on the museum and other sponsorships. The museum closed for a couple of years but has been bought by a wealthy investor, and the early intentions are that they will be get back to flying. But there has been no official announcement on the final work for this Me-262 just yet.

Love that paint scheme.

@FiveCentsPlease

9 күн бұрын

+@rodzor The paint is correct based on WW2 photos of the plane when it was captured.

When will you take it to the skies? Love the project!

Can you imagine if this beast had been produced in numbers in 1944!!!

@leneanderthalien

4 жыл бұрын

for your information the british Gloster Meteor first squadron was founded 2 months after the first me 262 staffel= more me 262 = no results... And the much better RR Nene (twice the pover from the 1944 Meteor's engine) was ready in 1945...

@USER351

4 жыл бұрын

analyste. Are you British?

@Youtubax

3 жыл бұрын

analyste The Jumo 004 was tested for the first time in late 1940 and it was a more advanced (technically more effective) radial compressor design than the centrifugal RR Nene. We are lucky Germany did not favour their development until 1943 otherwise allied air loses, especially from the 8th air force would’ve been much, much worse. This, and the fact they didn’t have access to adequate metals to achieve better reliability results of course!

@Youtubax

3 жыл бұрын

analyste Oh and btw, the british are also known for selling their state of the art technology to the Soviets. If I were Stalin I’d made mandatory that all produced Mig-15’s had a stamped little Union Jack on their fuselages!

The hatch to the first aid kit is missing, but the engines sounded healthy.

Ezt a gyönyörű gépet így elrontani a festéssel.

Any new news on the 262. And ya that rhymes. 😉

Nothing like standing alongside a jet engine, but if it explodes they are in the kill zone from shrapnel compressor/turbine blades 2:33

@alfa4liveejk

3 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same

So this Me 262 uses the ORIGINAL Junkers Jumo engines, with turbine blades made out of modern metals alloys? AWESOME!!!

@FiveCentsPlease

2 жыл бұрын

+ ALEFILES Yes it does. Work on all museum projects is currently halted, just after the Me-262 started taxi and brake testing.

@WilhelmKarsten

Жыл бұрын

These are Jumo 109-004B Orkan engines, restored using a similar material used in a 'A' version. KRUPP P-198 CHROMADUR alloy is still used for making jet and gas turbine engines and is known as A268.

@ALEFILES

Жыл бұрын

@@WilhelmKarsten Many thanks for the information! Greetings from Argentina (The second country with the MOST INFLATION in the world) :(

You could mistake the opening scene for a, "Luftwaffe airfield" somewhere in Germany 1945" with the hills behind and the building works doubling for damaged buildings from allied bombing.

@JK-tq5cu

3 жыл бұрын

Could be Jagdverband 44 in April 1945!

This is when the world changed

YES. YES. YES. MIEN SCHWALBE!!! I LOVE THE 262 LOL

What a beauty.

Amazing - 1940's tech. My Dad would have been 20 years old.

Awesome

Gee, looks like a Graffiti Artist got to it!! lol! Amazing site! Weren't Jumos very low time engines? Cheers!

@oxcart4172

4 жыл бұрын

It's been painted exactly as it was oringinally-and the engines have been rebuilt with different alloys to make them run for longer

@MililaniJag

4 жыл бұрын

@@oxcart4172 OK, BTW I was kidding about Graffiti!! I usually see the dappled camo. in photos. Love to see a vid on rebuilding & modifying the Jumos! Cheers!

@brianmckinney9580

4 жыл бұрын

average Jumo jet engine had a 20-25 hour service life. The remanned ones you see here are around 400 hours if I remember correctly

@MililaniJag

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianmckinney9580 Thx!

@FiveCentsPlease

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianmckinney9580 AeroTurbine in California built them and they said that they estimate to get about 300 hours from them before overhaul.

Looks very much like an original Jumo 004???

@FiveCentsPlease

3 жыл бұрын

+Pascal Chauvet Those are rebuilt Jumo 004s, with new metallurgy in the sections that were known to fail. This is a flying restoration, but all work is currently on hold.

I can find no updates on this since the museum is gone. Is it being sold, or has it been? Will it ever fly?

@FiveCentsPlease

2 жыл бұрын

+ dukeallen2001 No news,. But the museum has put several projects up for sale including some jets, their B-17, and the only surviving Fw-189 that was maybe 40-50% complete.

@Teddingtin

2 жыл бұрын

@@FiveCentsPlease What a bummer... God willing the right person will buy the 262 and give her the opportunity to fly again.

Good to hear that a piece of history like the Jumo004B has been restored. I think the problem with the originals was the poor materials and secondly the fuel metering - both fixable. The slow pickup (causing perhaps compressor stalls) is an inherent part of the design though, so would be rather unsafe in the case of a go-round.

@WilhelmKarsten

Ай бұрын

The Jumo 109-004B was made from heat resistant stainless steel, just like modern engines, they were very reliable and durable by the standards of the time, those familiar with jets engines said that throttle response was comparable to Allied jet engines, all first generation jets had manual fuel controls and requires the pilot to adjust the throttles with care and closely monitoring the EGT and RPM..

@evaluateanalysis7974

Ай бұрын

@@WilhelmKarstenWikipedia says: "Given the lower-quality steels used in the 004B, these engines had a service life of only 10-25 hours, Another shortcoming of the engine, common to all early turbojets, was its sluggish throttle response. "

@WilhelmKarsten

Ай бұрын

@@evaluateanalysis7974 *Thank you for proving my point...* *Wikipedia is not a credible or unbiased source and is filled with inaccurate and misleading information.* *The Jumo -004B easily passed the RLMs 100 hour PFTR reliability requirements, this is the same 100 hour PFTR requirements as the RAF and the USAAF during WW2.* *The US Army exhaustively tested the Me-262 during Operation LUSTY and confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours, this is EXCELLENT by WW2 standards for Allied piston engines.* *The Messerschmitt Me-262's continuous cruising speed 465mph meant that throttle response was a non-issue in combat engagement, the German jets maintained a 100 mph speed advantage throughout its operating envelope.* *Any questions?*

@sandervanderkammen9230

Ай бұрын

AeroTurbines restored these engines using the original materials, Krupp P-198 Chomadur is still usedin jet engine production and is sold today as SAE A286

@evaluateanalysis7974

Ай бұрын

@@sandervanderkammen9230 I could buy the alloy and still not make a decent jet engine. Why were the German jet engines so crap then?

Amazing. Where is this? Which country and which location?

@FlyingHeritage

4 жыл бұрын

The Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum is located in Everett, WA.

@megatwingo

4 жыл бұрын

@@FlyingHeritage Thank you for the reply. What does "WA" mean? I'm not from the USA.

@Mongo63a

4 жыл бұрын

@@megatwingo WA = Washington state

@Dog.soldier1950

4 жыл бұрын

megatwingo go if you can it’s the best

so, did it fly already?

@FiveCentsPlease

3 жыл бұрын

+B. Bakker No, the museum is closed for now and work is on hold.

2:16 Is the smoke caused by the new paint?

@FiveCentsPlease

4 ай бұрын

+@carlnapp4412 Those engines were ran on an engine test rig at the turbine shop before going to the museum. My guess would be a leak, spill, or there is something the needs to be resolved. Ground testing for the plane is not complete at this time. They just did a few taxi and brake tests before the museum was closed for a while.

Amazing

Did it ever fly? Video?

@FiveCentsPlease

2 жыл бұрын

+ Love2FlyKAP The museum closed after owner Paul Allen passed away. He left money from his estate to keep the museum operating but his only heir changed the estate portfolio and several museums closed, including the military museum. A new owner is taking over the military museum so wait for news on what work will resume.

Willie would be happy..

When this jet flies I bet Paul Allen would have been very proud.

@Fegelantic

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it'll probably never fly now that he's gone. It'll end up rotting static in a museum or in the back corner of some rich guy's hangar because the insurance company won't cover it if it leaves the ground.

This channel hasn't posted anything for over a year, does anyone know the status of this project? I'd love to see an update.

@FiveCentsPlease

2 жыл бұрын

+ Teddington All work at the museum is on hold due to realigning of the late Paul Allen's estate and investment portfolio.

@ejaybuado7212

2 жыл бұрын

Entire collection sold sadly based on checking stuff on their other online pages....

steve hinton? highest warbird hours pilot in the world.

@kalashloy4179

4 жыл бұрын

yep that's him

Now that the engines have modern materials and everything else, what are they like on the test bed are they better in power or are they as they were original during WW2

@FiveCentsPlease

6 ай бұрын

+@maxrpm2215 Power/thrust figures were not published that I know of, keeping with Paul Allen's non-disclosure policies with vendors. Very likely those numbers will be the same as WW2 specifications. It wasn't the goal to make a more powerful Jumo 004, just more durable. The engine shop did mention TBO times in a publication and those are estimated to be 300 hrs, vastly improved from wartime numbers.

@FiveCentsPlease

6 ай бұрын

+@maxrpm2215 The bench test data was not published by the turbine shop, following the usual non-disclosure policy that Flying Heritage used when Paul Allen owned it.

@maxrpm2215

6 ай бұрын

@@FiveCentsPlease damn, it would've been good to know if any improvement was achieved. Also did they manufacture the turbine's to original or improved to be more reliable on the throttles. Hopefully when its the air they release the data.

@WilhelmKarsten

3 ай бұрын

These engines are restored to original condition... no modifications were made.

@WilhelmKarsten

3 ай бұрын

​@@maxrpm2215All first generation jets have manual fuel controls, including Allied jets. The throttles were not unreliable, your comments are misleading and misinformed

ooh I must fly it. lol.

Un 262 originale e con motori jumo originali??😮

@FiveCentsPlease

8 ай бұрын

+@dimitribartali2744 SÌ

I thought those engines only lasted like 10 hours or something?

@FiveCentsPlease

Ай бұрын

+@TiberiusMaximus They are rebuilt, and the estimate is 300 hours. But the plane needs more testing before it can begin flights.

@sandervanderkammen9230

Ай бұрын

PFTR for the Jumo 109-004b engines was 150 hours... exceeding both the RAF and the USAAF 100 hour PFTR requirements for adoption into service. Operation LUSTY exhaustively tested the Messerschmitt Me-262 and confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours... excellent by Allied piston engines standards and better than the Merlin or the R-2800.

How you can come up with "Schwalbe", baffels me every time. Every inch of it screams "Shark".

Carn't believe they don't have a fire truck ' or something similar leading it.

I recall the service life of these engines being limited to only 25 hours due to poor metallurgy in the hot section as a result of Germany's dwindling resources and lack of access to raw materials for creating alloys that could withstand the high temperatures during the latter stages of WWII. Did the museum custom machine new turbines using modern alloys for these engines or are the hot section components totally original?

@FiveCentsPlease

Жыл бұрын

+ @roberts9095 The museum gave a presentation on the project, although they did not have an engine representative from the turbine vendor to provide specific details. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3V2z6WRp7vFhaQ.html Much of the Me-262 restoration was done in secret. Aero Turbine in CA did the Jumo engines with aerospace subcontractors providing manufacturing support. They started with incomplete original engines and spent ten years on the effort. The few photos that were published show a lot of new metal in the engines. Aero Turbine estimates the revised Jumos will be good for 300 hours.

@WilhelmKarsten

Жыл бұрын

That is a popular but completely false urban myth. These Jumo -004B exceeded the RLMs 100 PFTR reliability test required for adoption into Luftwaffe service. The US Army tested the Me-262 during Operation Lusty and confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours, that better than Allied high output piston engines during WW2.

@roberts9095

Жыл бұрын

​@WilhelmKarsten can you point me in the direction of the report that confirms the TBO of 55 hours?

@WilhelmKarsten

Жыл бұрын

@@roberts9095 Official US government documents.

@WilhelmKarsten

Жыл бұрын

@@roberts9095 Cyrus Meher-Homji is highly regarded expert on The Jumo 109-004B Orkan engines and its designer Dr. Anselm Franz. He worked as a senior analyst for the Bechtel Corporation and published several papers in the ASME about the Messerschmitt Me-262 and its superb Jumo engines.

Imagine 6 of these twice as large on an Junkers EF-132 Zerstörer, which would have been slightly bigger than a B-52. 🤪

@WilhelmKarsten

3 ай бұрын

Where do you think the B-47 came from???

@mr.sir.

2 ай бұрын

@@WilhelmKarsten Downsized EF-132 Zerstörer ofc

WOW . . . They build real 262s out of Jumo engines and real houses out of bricks! What part of America is this?

@nickestes1839

3 жыл бұрын

Seattle

Dolphins are returning to Venice. Meanwhile in Germany:

@FiveCentsPlease

4 жыл бұрын

+I'm Neoplitan This restoration is not in Germany. Airframe work was completed in the UK and the original engines were restored in California.

What happened to this project?

@FiveCentsPlease

2 жыл бұрын

+ christyav8r The museum is presently closed and all projects are on hold. Paul Allen passed away and things are changing with his substantial fortune and estate..

@Fegelantic

2 жыл бұрын

The project and museum died with Mr. Allen

When will she fly?

@FiveCentsPlease

Жыл бұрын

+@13thLiberator The museum closed and has now reopened with new owners. No announcement has been made about resuming work on the Me-262 yet,

@DIVeltro

10 ай бұрын

I'll bet she will never fly. She's probably never going to go past here.

メッサーシュミットMe262？

Was wondering if any of the Tuskegee pilots who are still alive saw this aircraft?

@FiveCentsPlease

3 жыл бұрын

+BossaNossa1 I don't think this Me-262 saw a lot of combat, if any. It was manufactured in March 1945 near Regensburg, Germany and was test flown on 15-March. It was immediately sent to a conversion depot and rebuilt into a photo-recon aircraft. It was captured intact at Lechfeld air base, Germany in May 1945. Interesting that is has been restored in fighter configuration.

Are those real Jumos? Omg

@FiveCentsPlease

3 жыл бұрын

+my3dbase Inh. Kristian Zimmermann Yes, real Jumos (rebuilt with better metals.)

@my3dbase

3 жыл бұрын

@@FiveCentsPlease Amazing. Thank you for the reply!

@sandervanderkammen9230

Ай бұрын

Original Jumo engines restored to original specifications.

👍🏻

To look at it seems like a shark.

It's an unrealistic and wicked thought, but imagine if Germany and USA had been allies, from a technological perspective. There may never have been a cold war.

@leneanderthalien

4 жыл бұрын

The most advanced ww2 alliees technology (radars, jet fighters,) was in GB not in the USA...The USA's force was much more the gigantic industry capacity

@marcelgroen6256

3 жыл бұрын

@@leneanderthalien A-Bomb ?

Such a modern, progressive aircraft, where the engines are in fact the least part. Lucky for the Allies (and for us) that this plane was not available in large numbers 2 years earlier.

HORRIDO PAUKE PAUKE

wow, Such foolishness', and arrogance , With such a machine Germany should have swept the skies clear of all opponents .

@stormy_song_studios

Жыл бұрын

you should wiki it and see the reasons why it wasn't available earlier in the war. the nazis, including herr hitler were egomaniacal idiots and couldn't fathom what a true technological advantage they had so they squandered the advantage. glad those tools were tools, would not have bode well if produced in great numbers.

@sandervanderkammen9230

Ай бұрын

​@stormy_song_studios The only reason production was delayed was a shortage of Nickel and the engines were redesigned to use Chromium based stainless steel.