The fact that the 750Ti holds 30fps and looks reasonably good is pretty impressive.

@subjectivereviews

Жыл бұрын

PS4 is doing the same 2013 hardware

@weeaboojones2451

Жыл бұрын

8 year old gpu that runs modern titles at 30fps, now that's value

@Kdkjdjewerdnxa

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I guess? The game already runs 30fps on ps4 so a graphics card from that era along with a better processor and ram should be able to run it better than a ps4.

@finaldivine8235

Жыл бұрын

@@subjectivereviews Actually better, PS4 plays it at fixed 1080p and a stable 30 fps from the start to the end (with a jet engine sound). But 750ti 4gb model runs the game at dynamic 900p meaning it goes even lower than that. And can't provide a fixed frame time either from the start to the end

@subjectivereviews

Жыл бұрын

@@finaldivine8235 nah stop shilling there's no big deal here. PC users shill a lot. PS4 is near 10 year old hardware and still to run Gow Ragnarok. Bet some PC cards of the time wld cough at Ragnarok or shld I say system minimum requirements not met.

The title almost made me think that DF was talking about SLI/Crossfire, then I realized that both techs are obsolete.

@nukmuk

Жыл бұрын

wait what, i just realized that wasn't what they were talking about XD

@CaramelisedNipples

Жыл бұрын

Which is a shame, I had a dual Gpu gtx 295 and later crossfired some amd cards, dabbled in tri-sli for a while. Back in the day you actually got some decent utilisation on both cards. Then it all died.

@saputrasaputra3347

Жыл бұрын

so basically, a $200 gpu is faster than weakstation 5

@GatMarksTheSpot

Жыл бұрын

@@saputrasaputra3347 nope try $1000+ would be needed to compete with the godstation

@huaky24

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought

Loved seeing the 270X and 750ti make an appearance.

@luizarthurbrito

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've owned both the 750ti and the RX580. I'm always curious to know how they perform nowadays.

@saputrasaputra3347

Жыл бұрын

so basically, a $200 gpu is faster than weakstation 5

@iLiekLemonade

Жыл бұрын

@@saputrasaputra3347 does it get tiring to be such an avid hater? i could name better things to do than to be a keyboard warrior

@jeofthevirtuoussand

Жыл бұрын

Fun fact my friend still rocked a 750 ti before getting a new rig with a 3050 . But It s all a matter of point of view. I have a 1050 ti so a 3050 is a monster. Although the 3050 is relatively" weak"

@mauriciochacon

Жыл бұрын

@@luizarthurbrito the amd 580 = 2 x 270x

Love the PS4 vs PC comparison. These analysis are a godsend

I don't know why but hearing Rich say "this is more for the luls" just made my day.

@micb3rd

Жыл бұрын

A welcome surprise :-)

@alexsilva28

Жыл бұрын

​@@micb3rd A surprise to be sure

Richard, really glad to see you covering this one!

This feels like a classic DF video ❤️ love it

Hoping for more videos like this , good job Digital Foundry!

Great video and was pleasantly surprised it was Richard. Only issue is mistakenly thought this meant multi GPU as in CF/SLI

ummm..why on earth would you compare a 6600 vs a 3060 based on MSRP? Nvidia does not honor that for 99% of the population. I do a quick online USA price check. 6600 sells for about 270-300 and the 3060 is around $420-480 on average. Totally different price ranges. You should have been using the 6700 XT version to match comparable pricing. Boggles the mind using BS MSRP. LOL

@bricaaron3978

Жыл бұрын

Haven't these people been caught being dishonest in the past? Or am I mistaken?

@jerome8564

Жыл бұрын

Not our fault it’s sold out in your area I can have a 3060 for the starting price easily

I love ports that have so much scalability. you could probably run this game on almost any mid range pc from the last 10 years

I think the graphs are a touch too low in the RTX3060ti vs RX 6600 chapter. In full screen they overlap perfectly with the scrubber bar and it makes it hard to see the chapter positions ahead of where you currently are.

You should have compared the 3060 against the 6600 XT.

@jiaerui1680

Жыл бұрын

Yep

Id like to see more CPU comparisons.. Seems some CPUs perform better with hyperthreading disabled and id like to see more ddr4 VS ddr5 comparisons.

Love seeing Rich at the helm, sick video!

Thanks for another brilliant video.

Game has a problem with Hyperthreading/SMT. Turning it off sees massive framerate improvement and much higher GPU utilization. It's possible that the i5 chips could actually see 60 FPS raytracing if you went into the bios and turned off hyperthreading.

@metroplex29

Жыл бұрын

DF does not seem to care about this problem, they are only here to say that it is a good port

@UltimateLF

Жыл бұрын

It's funny that most everyone knows that. And yet DF or HU never mention it. Someone payed them or what lol

@Twelvestar

Жыл бұрын

@@UltimateLF I don't think it's anything like that. I don't think it's common knowledge at this point. Hopefully Nixxes can just fix the issue in a patch and basically give everyone a free performance boost.

@metroplex29

Жыл бұрын

@@Twelvestar According to Nixxes in the last patch they indicated that they have not been able to reproduce the performance problem, so for them such a problem does not exist.

@oropher1234

Жыл бұрын

@@metroplex29 They were not talking about SMT there but about performance degradation over time, which is something entirely different. However they didn't acknowledge it either while it definitely is a fact that turning off SMT improves fps massively.

3060 12GB vs a RX 6600 8GB is not a fair comparison. a 3050 8gb vs a 6600 8gb is . Your going off NVidia mythical MSRP.0

@promc2890

Жыл бұрын

Same with 6800xt vs 3080 as well, Cheapest 6800xt is 570$ while cheapest 3080 10gb is 700$ 6800xt is the same price as a 3070ti on the market currently

@MatisseXV

Жыл бұрын

It's a fair comparison instead. At 1080p I have no such performance issues in Spider-man with the 6600.

I missed these kinds of videos. Also Alex did a fantastic interview with Nixxes on eurogamer.

Marvel's Spider-Man sure made an interesting case and insight to see how a video game works, performs and scales across different hardware, from consoles to high-end PCs, from base PS4 to PS5, and from GTX 750Ti to RTX 3000 cards! I'm not exactly the biggest fan of the Spider-Man universe and lore, but the Digital Foundry videos about the game since 2018 sure helped me understand a lot better some of the technicalities involved.

@Light-Rock97

Жыл бұрын

I still remember their video explaining cube map reflections right around puddle-gate.

20:44 I didn't realize the british pronunciation of kudos is basically QDOS 😂

Is there ever actually a link "below" when mentioned in the video lol? I feel like I never see the links for settings etc they mention directly.

The 6600 vs 3060 comparison is understandable because of the msrp, but these days the 6600 is like $100 cheaper, so yeah...

@ReEnaCtCky

Жыл бұрын

I was curious on this too and just checked Newegg. 3060 is 379$ . 6600 is 249$ after rebate . So yeah

@promc2890

Жыл бұрын

It should be 6650xt vs 3060 with the current pricing 6600 is a 3050 competiter at this point

@hungrymidget3896

Жыл бұрын

in my country they're about the same

@JaimeIsJaime

Жыл бұрын

In terms of pricing Its the 6700 (non XT) the one that should be compared against the 3060. even the 6600 XT is about 60 bucks cheaper than 3060

@speng5821

Жыл бұрын

6600 never competed against the 3060 this generation going by pricing: 3050 vs 6600 3060 vs 6600xt 3060ti vs 6700xt At the end of the day you should compare the products with the same prices, not the same numbers in their names

Gotta appreciate how much time and thorough tests they have went through to make these comparisons! Well informative!

Just how are you guys hitting 60+ fps with raytracing and optimized settings with the 3080? I'm around 40 fps. I can only hit a steady 60fps with dlss ultra peformance.

Man, you had me thinking this game supported multi GPU set ups like SLI with that title!

"Gap is gigantic" LoL just like price between rx6600 and rtx 3060. Same for Rx 6800xt , price is not the same .

@promc2890

Жыл бұрын

Yep the 6800XT can be bought as low as 570$ while the cheapest 3080 10gb is 700$ Basicly meaning you can get a B550 tomahawk + 6800xt for the price of 3080

@MatisseXV

Жыл бұрын

I have no such performance issues at all in Spider-man with the 6600.

I have no such performance issues at all in Spider-man with the 6600. It's really weird at the very least.

The 3060-6600 comparison its kind of absurd considering that the AMD card is like 100 bucks cheaper.

@Boria0

Жыл бұрын

Yep. DF as objective as usual

@TexelGuy

Жыл бұрын

I mean, a 2060 would also beat the 6600 at RT, and it's cheaper. The 3050 on the other hand would be a good comparison for the current line-up of GPUs.

@saputrasaputra3347

Жыл бұрын

so basically, a $200 gpu is faster than weakstation 5

@paul1979uk2000

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I don't think it's a good idea to have the same class of gpu's from different companies battling it out with each other unless the price is about the same, the comparisons should always be done on the price of the gpu's and not on the class of gpu's. In this case, that AMD gpu would actually be compared to a tier down Nvidia gpu.

@salleh5131

Жыл бұрын

If a product is superior ,naturally the market prices it higher, that doesn't make it a tier above. That's like saying it's only fair for the #1 fighter in a weight division to fight above his weight class.

i seem to be having terrible frame times with the game, any idea on how to fix it? thank you in advance!

Just got this game today. Runs like butter 1440p maxed settings dlss quality with ray tracing off with a ryzen 5600 and rtx 3070.

Steam's hardware survey is always a stark reminder of how working class people play games. Tech youtubers live often in the dream world of having 300 usd spare every 18 months. Money goes to gaming dead last in most people's budgets. My car needed new tires. There goes my new GPU again. There's always something.

@Light-Rock97

Жыл бұрын

Game runs great on my almost three year old gtx 1050 *laptop.* I'm glad the devs listened to the surveys and really optimized this to run on lower specs.

No idea why we are comparing 6600 vs 3060. At my place prices indicate we shoud compare 6650XT or 6700 vs 3060.

Nice comparing 👍👍

For my laptop with AMD Ryzen 4800HS, 16GB of RAM, and a GTX 1650ti (4gb) runs at 1080p 30fps locked, and looks and plays awesome, with a mix of low/medium settings and DRS. Very good port indeed

So for dynamic resolution I should put the limit under 60 if I want 60?

is this been tested on the 1.824.1.0 patch? coz, on my end, it improve the performnace quite a bit (high end nVidia/Ryzen pc)

@MatisseXV

Жыл бұрын

With the latest Spider-man patch, I have no performance issues at all with the 6600.

With a 3060ti and i9 10850k, I just could not get something as smooth and good looking as the PS5 versions (with raytracing). Even at the lowest RT and crowd settings, the framerate was wildly inconsistent while swinging.

@Keivz

Жыл бұрын

If you’re using a wireless controller try using a wired one. Somehow runs a ton better (see Reddit)

@kylelochner5686

Жыл бұрын

@@Keivz Think he was talking about framerate, not controller

@kylelochner5686

Жыл бұрын

try disabling hyperthreading in bios, helps a ton. Also try using fps cap

@promc2890

Жыл бұрын

Wierd the 3060ti should have better RT performance than a PS5

@HenryMarkV

Жыл бұрын

@@kylelochner5686 Some games do have weird performance problems with Bluetooth, but I am using a wired controller and tried disabling hyperthreading

Apparently I was so quick to the video the notification wouldn’t load it and the video didn’t show on the channel page. I had to go through the website lol

If your on a vrr display you can put ps5 in it's fidelity mode where it runs at a much higher rez and better RT still at 50-60 fps... should of put that up when comparing it to the 3060

why cant u just show percent and the fps at the same time, what is the problem?

Isn't it a bit weird to compare the 3060 to the 6600 when the 6600 is more comparable to a 3050 in pricing? The comparison was still great, but I'm trying to understand why you paired those 2 together.

I was hoping to see ITG vs DLSS vs FSR, maybe in the next video?

Thanks for the video, gents. I've been waiting for this one! Personally, I have completed about 87% of the base game and it has gotten better after the past couple patches... but yeah, it's still pretty CPU heavy. I'm running an RTX 3080 ti with an i9-9900k CPU (with all cores at 4.7 Ghz), 64 gigs of DDR4 Ram @ 3600 Mhz, and a NVME M2 SSD (EVO 970 Plus) to store the game on. 4K with DLSS-Balanced enabled, textures at very high, 8x anisotropic, and everything else on high except traffic density, crowd density, and hair quality (all three are on medium instead). I also have ray-tracing enabled at high settings with object range of 7. After the past two patches, it runs at 60 fps most of the time. I do get regular dips to 59 fps when I swing too close to the street, and those can get worse depending on time of day and how long I play. Regarding the former, it can be very interesting when the time of day is set to night, the weather is set to rain, and there's fog. My CPU does NOT like that very much and performance will start dropping to the low 50s at intervals near busy streets. Regarding the latter, there's some kind of memory leak at play. After an hour of wandering the open world, doing random side missions, and solving crimes... a gradual performance degradation sets in. Drops to 59 become 57, then 53, and then low 40s. Restarting the game gets you back on track, for another hour. It's happening a lot less now, but I've done all the side-quests that change the time of day / weather and I'm pretty much just wrapping up 80 random crimes that have unlocked before completing the story (60 down, 20 more to go). It's a shame PC Direct Storage isn't a thing yet, because I think that could have really helped this game. The CPU is just having to do way too much here (crowds, traffic, shadow compiling, assisting with ray-tracing, etc.). I hope they find a way in the next couple patches to optimize CPU usage a bit more, but we'll see. Thanks for your thorough analysis! Edit addition: also, thanks to Nixxes for the continued support and burning that midnight oil. As of the time of this post, the PC port has been out for 18 days and has already received two patches. They're clearly trucking along and I wish them the very best. They seem dedicated to milking more performance out of this port and I'm sure it'll pay dividends for the Spider-Man: Miles Morales PC edition.

@SolarMechanic

Жыл бұрын

Just so you know, you can probably fix those dips you're getting by disabling Hyperthreading in your bios. There's a known issue with this game where having more than 6 physical cores and having hyperthreading enabled causes CPU utilisation problems. Disable it and everything smoothes out. You can check the Discussion pages on Steam to verify this.

@Ingel_Riday6690

Жыл бұрын

@@SolarMechanic You make a great suggestion, Mike, and Steam discussions do indeed back it up. Truthfully, I haven't done that because I think everything else on my computer does benefit from hyperthreading. I'd rather not turn it off just for a single game. I guess I could turn it off before I play the game and turn it back on after I'm done playing... but I'd rather not touch it and hope that Nixxes improves support for more than 6 cores instead.

@SolarMechanic

Жыл бұрын

@@Ingel_Riday6690 Fair enough. It souns like you've got performance enough to make up for it so it's not something you need to worry about. It's just such an odd problem which I'm surprised DF didn't pick up on.

@Crimsongz

Жыл бұрын

@@Ingel_Riday6690 you can actually disable hyperthreading specifically for this game if you download process lasso

@finaldivine8235

Жыл бұрын

@@Crimsongz Afaik Ryzen Master can do the same thing

Awesome video ! Would love to see a PS4 vs PC graphics breakdown :)

@markreilly6403

Жыл бұрын

They won’t compare last gen them days are gone

@DBTHEPLUG

Жыл бұрын

PS4. Trash.

@alexsilva28

Жыл бұрын

This had pretty much that?

I hope more games have the option to use dynamic resolution, but then upscale it to native, when it's in affect. That just makes sense.

@coladapo3

Жыл бұрын

I prefer this method over reconstruction

This RT's heavy CPU hit is similar to the UNREAL ENGINE 5 global illumination. What about with that? Can they make this be made by the GPU on the next generation? AVX-512 helps?

Great video

4:43 RT reflections look more unstable/ broken near the spiderman for some reason.

It'd be nice if after a certain time DF would upload the content that they have behind a pay wall. Which wasn't always the case.

Thanks for the vid! My RTX 3050 8GB does especially well in this game with RTX on (Alex's optimized settings), 1080p with DLSS Quality. It looks great too! My 9 year old loves the ray tracing in this game. Getting him into graphics tech early. 🙂

I have been UNABLE to get a consistent 60fps without drops on this game, rt off, with an i5 10400f. During swinging, no matter what I tried, I could not avoid drops while swinging. Tested with 3060 and 3070ti.

@MatisseXV

Жыл бұрын

Nvidia has known overhead driver issues. And the i5-10400, 11400 and the R5 3600 have more or less 5% performance difference from each other

1800p, high settings, high rt for just over 60fps with FSR 2 quality on a 6700xt

6600xt would be a better comparison to 3060.

Looking close to great on RX 580 and GTX 1060, just need to fix that weird GPU Utilisation and stutter issue.

it might just be me, but both drs and dlss, both on at then same time, or each on at a time, looks pretty rough while playing at any resolution on a rtx 3070.

I heard that you need to disable hyperthreading for better performance if you have 6/12 c/t or 8/12 c/t cpus

@metroplex29

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that has been the only fix that at the moment makes the game run as it should if it were well optimized, a pity that DF is so lazy lately to investigate a little more.

@DJBV

Жыл бұрын

@@metroplex29 crazy that some amateurish website with an handful of gpu's and one system found out about this and not DF

I was very excited to see the GTX 750 Ti again in the Digital Foundry videos. It's a card that I still use and whenever I download a new game, I search here on the channel to see if there are any recommendations in terms of graphics and framerate.

Reading title.. Watching video... Where are the SLI/Crossfire benchmarks? ;)

What's really annoying I've found is the way framerates slow to a crawl after changing certain GFX options when in game, and don't recover until booting back to the menu and reloading. (running a RTX 3080)

@write2nick

Жыл бұрын

Does slow down keep coming back after booting back?

@nordineaouidad

Жыл бұрын

That happens in almost every game man. It is always adviced to restart your game after you're done experementing for best quality/performance ratio, the real annoyance is when you have to restart the gane just to see the graphical differences, thankfully it doesn't happen in Spiderman, it's just the FPS that takes a hit which needs a restart to get rid of.

@Keivz

Жыл бұрын

Which gfx setting? I don’t have this issue (3080 ti)

A very important issue has not been raised here. Well, the game does not allocate a maximum of 10 GB in 4K, but oddly enough, the RTX 3080 10 GB starts to clog up after turning on the RT. This is clearly seen when the spiderman is close to city streets or when it lands on the sidewalk, then performance drops dramatically. Changing textures to high eliminates the problem. However, at very high RT settings, this trick doesn't work anymore. Enabling DLSS or dynamic resolution has no effect either. It seems that the developers focused on optimization and the assumption that the gameplay is about jumping from one building to another. I recommend checking it, because then it may turn out that the RX6800XT is much faster in such places

@Battleneter

Жыл бұрын

Runs fine on my RTX3080 10GB, sounds like a driver version issue.

im on rtx 3060, on medium and hight settings the fpz not much differ, why is that

So my ryzen 3600 and GTX 1070 should farewell at 1440p?

Needs optimizations for both AMD CPUs and GPUs. This title should be performing much better on AMD considering PS5 runs on AMD hardware.

I honestly didn't think this would be my sort of game, but it's fricking brilliant.

@offlinegamer6756

Жыл бұрын

it's a well crafted game, one downside although , the NPC in the streets of New York are worthless and repetitive as hell , the interactivity with them is boring and the copy/past of their outfits/models/voices and dialogues are too damn visible it made the open world experience feeling too FAKE , just stick with the main story and the side quests and avoid the open world , it's a gimmick in this game !

@supersmashmaster43

Жыл бұрын

@@offlinegamer6756 a lot of side quests involve NPC's though

Ray tracing is honestly more punishing for the CPU. I've tried to tweak a bunch of settings but the game still drops down to around 50fps. What exactly is going on behind the scenes that hammers the CPU so hard with ray tracing?

@alfheim7579

Жыл бұрын

My understanding is the CPU has to calculate parts of the BVH structure/layout and update that as objects load in and out of the scene.

@Koffiato

Жыл бұрын

@@alfheim7579 and combine that with a compression algorithm that doesn't play well with x86 you get higher CPU load. Due to every in reflection object also hast to get streamed into GPU you also get 10x the PCIe usage at times.

Would have been nice to test some Ryzen cpus too

runs fine on my legion 5 on very high. some slowdown sometimes but its perfect

Brilliant analysis from Rich as usal.

@JayzBeerz

Жыл бұрын

*Usual

Some weird takes in this video. 270X is not really an equivalent for the PS4 GPU for a variety of reasons, besides cores and ROPs. It's a GCN2 variant of 7870 in number of cores yes, with twice the ROPs, yes, while underclocked to beneath actual HD 7850 performance levels. If anything, the 750 Ti 4 GB should've been compared to R7 260X 4 GB. (an actual GCN2 GPU) "11400F is significantly faster than R5 3600". It's really not though.

@nepnep6894

Жыл бұрын

It is in multithreaded games due to the 6 cores being monolithic rather than a 3+3 cluster. The 5600 doesn't have this issue as zen3 used 8 core chiplets. If the cores don't need to communicate the 3+3 config isn't an issue, but in games the render threads need to synchronize.

Does someone can fix the shadow & light bugs ? Very annoying 😭 Im using RX 580

im a simple guy, i see a df video , i hit like

Oh, when you said multi GPU I thought about the actual multi GPU thing with the DX12 evolution of SLI which is not SLI. But then again it makes sense it's not it because RTX doesn't work with multi GPU (which is a damn shame by the way).

I've had this issue on amd rx 6700m where shadows disappear in certain spots and the sun's shines through buildings sometimes. I've heard online that this issue happens to other amd users as well. Surprised this didn't come up in this video. Seems like a driver issue possibly.

@dnakatomiuk

Жыл бұрын

Probably will be I don't think AMD have released an WHQL driver yet for this game just rushed out a optional driver

@AlvianMardhiSetya

Жыл бұрын

Me too, im using rx 580.. i hope it will be fix or i will no use Amd anymore

@mrfilcritic

Жыл бұрын

@@AlvianMardhiSetya yeah this is my first amd card so I hope it's fixed I've read from people who have a 6800xt with the same issue so it doesn't seem to matter how powerful the particular amd card is.

@TerraWare

Жыл бұрын

@@mrfilcritic I have played the game on my 6800xt pc and can't say I've experienced anything like this.

@mrfilcritic

Жыл бұрын

A link to a video of the issue

How about a video on laptop integrated GPUs from Intel and AMD from the last few years? Curious how playable it would be. 🙂🙂

@JDelwynn

Жыл бұрын

On my Ryzen 5800HS+RTX 3060 laptop RTX is a no go because it introduces stuttering, and I haven't been able to reached locked 60fps. Also dynamic resolution seems to do nothing, it just maximizes my GPU usage without giving any benefit on FPS.

@shadim2935

Жыл бұрын

@@JDelwynn my rtx3070 and 5800h unable to get consistent 45fps with ray tracing 😂

Wonder why they didn't implement CUDA (GPU accelerated) BVH building. It would help relieve the bottleneck for those with weaker CPUs.

@mbsfaridi

Жыл бұрын

Probably too much work for the deadline and budget.

GPU accelerated direct storage can't come soon enough

My laptop with a GTX 1650 GDDR6 runs this game at high settings, 1080p 40-50 fps. Great optimization.

In my case with an rx 580 and a r5 5600x some shadows dissapear when i step in them and its a huge turn off in daytime, also some buildings act like non existant and dont cast shadows

@metroplex29

Жыл бұрын

Yup, as expected from a Sony port, it doesn't run well on AMD, either in terms of visuals or performance. The same thing happened with Gow, hopefully nixxes will fix it with patches.

@AlvianMardhiSetya

Жыл бұрын

Yes me too.. please how to fix it, its very annoying 😭

im currently playing this game now in my 3070 at 1440P very high settings and my experience is super satisfying. i tried to play "high settings with ray--tracing on" but im encountering low fps up 30 and causing stuttering that is why i return to "very high settings with ray tracing off"... im really enjoying crisp and smooth graphics and gameplay... thank you Sony. Hope you release also to PC the Uncharted Series and The Last of Us.. Lol

DF maybe a 5800X 3D performance video?

RX580 AND 1060 Performace akin to my RTX3050 35w Swift X. For somereason oit goes up to 60 all the way down to 25fps in the same scene, happend more often in ground

Any you guys please Cover the PS5 doing Fidelity more at 40 Hz?

@coladapo3

Жыл бұрын

It’s weird they aren’t

@bigdaddyumi

Жыл бұрын

@@coladapo3 ikr it’s so strange I rlly want them to cover it

@coladapo3

Жыл бұрын

@@bigdaddyumi you would think they would be jumping at an uncapped console exclusive optimized game that also has a decent pic version for benching

16:00 why is this policeman's clothes so much better on PS5? The walkie talkie looks downright bad on PC.

I think the RX580 does so well because if anything the PS4/Pro is probably closest to it when it comes to GPU capabilities.

@Bry.89

Жыл бұрын

But the RX580 had horrible frametimes.

11:22 notice the water droplets on the screen

This port runs amazingly well on my 5950x and 6700 XT. I just played through the game & DLC at 4k with Everything maxed out @4k with FSR 2.0 Quality and WoW!!!

@XBnPC

Жыл бұрын

Playing this with a pair of nice headphones and an OLED TV with VRR was-is an absolute delight 😊

@killermoon635

Жыл бұрын

The other upscalling option (IGTI) is better than FSR in motion

John and Alex has the mighty rtx3090, what about making some review/test with a rtx3090SLI combo to push the PC limits? cyberpunk, elden ring, etc.

@daveleebond

Жыл бұрын

beacause SLI died about 10 years ago??? Don't think NV even makes profiles anymore.

@ereinion9240

Жыл бұрын

Officially SLI driver profiles support ended January 1 2021 so not that long ago. I don’t think Cyberpunk supports SLI.

It does not take much tought to figure out why old GPUs are still used so much. But I guess it is a farfetched idea for you that not everyone is living in a rich country like the US.

You're right. The RX 6600XT was going to provide a more relatable option in the AMD side

They should review DriveClub even if it's dead and released in 2014 it still has the best graphics I've ever seen in a racing game

@anonymous16472

Жыл бұрын

its not really that good looking game anymore forexample forza horizon 5 looks way better

@niqtamerdiego_6957

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymous16472 no it does not.

To be honest, I don't think that ray tracing is really that good specially with the frames that it chunks. All just to see Spidey reflection on the building 🤷🏾‍♂️

@braidena1633

Жыл бұрын

What? You can see the reflections of everything else too, which is pretty impressive since NYC is a giant mirror. And water puddles too, and more. The rt is implemented extremely well here

@mohammadkhrais5765

Жыл бұрын

@@braidena1633 that's true, but how many times in the game you are slowly walking or looking at those reflections? Most of the time you are either swinging/ running, or fighting. And as you see, if you have a 3060, or even 3060 ti, you have to sacrifice some of the graphics and fps, just to get those reflections, so imo I don't see it worth it.

@rayyanamir8560

Жыл бұрын

Reflections can be implemented through screen space reflections as well. But imsoniac doesn't support SSR

@subjectivereviews

Жыл бұрын

@@mohammadkhrais5765 true

"65 trillion mega-respixels at accelerated light core speed through effective detailed GPU multi-flangfingers delivers a next gen capable AI upscaled AMD CPU multi-threaded 1000/36-50/Zeus Pro environment."

No FSR 2.0? for all the talk of "If there's DLSS why not use it?" should be the same for both.

Remember, PS5 performance mode with VRR, can reach 100 FPS

@kylelochner5686

Жыл бұрын

at 1080p

@sebastianosergi1082

Жыл бұрын

@@kylelochner5686 yea Dynamic 1440p so 1440p ~ 1080p

Games so unoptimized it’s crazy

What about the puddles?

This makes me super happy to see my 1060 will still hold it's own. Cant wait to get it:)

@NexGenTek

Жыл бұрын

not really

No Brasil com base nos preços a concorrente da RTX3060 e a RX6600XT

@ocaradovideoehbixa

Жыл бұрын

Acho a RTX 3060 mais negócio por conta do DLSS e melhor performance no geral em jogos com Ray Tracing

What about the performance degradation when using ray tracing? As you guys are always playing the same scene over and over again and restarting the game you guys wont notice it at all but the longer you play the game the worse you framerate gets when ray tracing is on (people with rt off do not suffer from this so save us from telling you are running the game just fine).

@TerraWare

Жыл бұрын

I've heard some people experience this with 8gb cards. I havent experienced it on either of my AMD or Nvidia gpu and while I already beat the game I was putting in long sessions.

@archivedfrytoastfrill9675

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t experienced this in Spider-Man and I played with RT the entire game. However, I did experience this in Dying Light 2 until they fixed it recently which DF never caught.

@deepinsight1175

Жыл бұрын

Digital foundary hide information that doesn't fit their narrative. Ps5 is a beast that gives image quality and performance near to the highest end Pc. These pc's cost at least 4 times more than a ps5.

@TerraWare

Жыл бұрын

@@deepinsight1175 The advantage of pc is its unlocked settings nature, scalable hardware. It depends on your hardware. For example I have a PS5 and an RTX 3080Ti. Taking Spiderman for example which is a best case scenario I can get what is PS5's fidelity mode at 30 fps and on PC get 60 fps with higher fidelity ray tracing. I dont see what details DF are hiding lol. I think they're pretty fair in their comparisons.

@SimonBuchanNz

Жыл бұрын

I'm running with RT and I'm not seeing anything too noticable up to 4+hours?