You lost me at 4060ti, the FP32 performance of a 4060ti is 114% greater than the PS5's GPU. The 5700xt on the other hand only has a 5% difference in comparison to the PS5 and would be a better match since the 4060ti way outperforms the PS5 GPU.

@DumbIn3D

Жыл бұрын

Raw performance wise I completely agree. The thing about PC vs console configurations is the optimization. Devs. only have to optimize for one set of hardware with console, but on PC there are so many different configurations. Higher performance hardware can be seen as an offset to the difference in optimization.

@FrankTheTank184

Жыл бұрын

@@DumbIn3D I completely agree with you, but that raw power being far more than that of a console, it allows for higher settings, fps, and resolutions. It's just a poor comparison in my opinion. The optimization across the board has been lacking too, regardless of it being on PC or console

@DumbIn3D

Жыл бұрын

@@FrankTheTank184 Yeah, no kidding. It seems to be prevalent with AAA titles lately. Holding hope that future releases are brought to the table with good day one optimization.

@ADRzone

Жыл бұрын

You are correct 💯

@dayadam16

Жыл бұрын

It may be but performance wise I don't see it doubling the performance of a 6700.

I don't come to these videos for the content. I come for the comments, because those are real people that ACTUALLY know what they're talking about lol. Two of my best gaming PCs were built off of commenters over the years.

@KremsonKhan

9 ай бұрын

exactly i agree, I got all my PC parts from 'reddit comments' and it works great and saved alot of money too!

@rsltgc8706

9 ай бұрын

Yup Videos are important but comments are no less important. Many a times more.

@christiandk09

6 ай бұрын

Yeah because comments also usually correct anything wrong in the video or give better recommendations that have higher value, and overall just help you with stuff

@690Dragonx

6 ай бұрын

😂what your pc?

@R3TR0J4N

5 ай бұрын

Building a pc w/ the help of forums, qoura, Reddit, and recently added Chatgpt made me to considers opinions and base a general estimate. A collective thought.

Plus, keep in mind that these are US component prices. The US market is significantly cheaper when it comes to electronics to almost everywhere else in the world.

@RivalGrimReaper

Жыл бұрын

Not as cheap as where I live, Guernsey, we get European prices, minus VAT, I got a brand new 4090 for £1400 while the rest of Britain paid £2000. That's why we are classed as a tax haven. anything on Amazon removes 25% of the price if shipped to Guernsey.

@touristofsongs4946

Жыл бұрын

@@RivalGrimReaper How much is citizenship over there

@avitkori765

Жыл бұрын

So is the PS5.

@lashram32

Жыл бұрын

@@touristofsongs4946 "How much is citizenship over there?" 25% more than Britan.

@apostolosmylonas6207

11 ай бұрын

In Europe it is as cheap or cheaper than in the usa

One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of games aren't optimized for PC, so you'll need better specs to get the same performance. Hopefully with Steam pushing the Steamdeck game companies will start investing in PC optimization.

@koenuffing4416

9 ай бұрын

Right. RTX cards do get DLSS to push performance at better image quality, though.

@bobbyz9052

9 ай бұрын

@@koenuffing4416 Most games are designed with DLSS enabled. So when Steam tells you that the recommended hardware is a 3060 they're assuming you're using DLSS

@kami3449

9 ай бұрын

​@@Ky-iz8pyWhat he said regardless of how he said it is still facts though. You bought a GPU with 8GB of vram at the start of a new console generation and now you're complaining that games run trash but you're the one who put yourself in that situation. You build for the future when you buy/build a pc, you bought for the here and now and now you're paying for that mistake physical, mentally, and financially. Take accountability for your own ignorant decisions, its what men do.

@JustCurious-ne5sb

9 ай бұрын

Typical pc gamer. Not only living in denial but insanely prideful about it. Too bad all that gaming power is not making you happy in life, nor making games any more optimized for your overpriced Fap station. @@saltmaker5353

@Burning_Typhoon

9 ай бұрын

I think you guys don't know what optimization means. There is no "PC specific" optimization that needs to be done. PCs have a bigger footprint running in the background. It's called your operating system. There's also things like the hard drive. If your HDD is causing a bottle neck, upgrading to an NVMe drive will fix that. No amount of optimizations will fix that. I just got a 2TB NVMe for $150. A 500GB was $500, just 5 years ago. You have to understand that PCs primary focus isn't gaming, so you have to consider the overhead, (or disregard it, depending on how you look at it.)... Ultimately, you could just Optimize your spending budget. Built my PC in 2017 and it still outperforms PS5.

The 4060ti might be underpowered as a gpu but it's a bit overkill compared to ps5's gpu

@robertfarmer6316

Жыл бұрын

Agreed … love the idea of this video, but I think mistakes may have been made w some decisions… but hey I still enjoyed the content so I will shut My mouth now lol

@OilFreeFeathers

Жыл бұрын

The bandwidth will hold it back for anything going forward, even compared to consoles. It's more E-waste.

@VherrToIs

Жыл бұрын

Nope

@jean-pierreraduocallaghan8422

Жыл бұрын

He said 4060 not 4060ti bro.

@shyboy2112

Жыл бұрын

No that's incorrect. And none of this matters because most AAA games are made and optimized for consoles.

770$ is probably the cost of a single component from this video in my country

@zoiuduu

6 ай бұрын

sedlyfe

@mradrian4906

6 ай бұрын

In my country this pc would cost around 1100

@mradrian4906

6 ай бұрын

Usd

@teamofone1219

2 ай бұрын

cap

@Rolkey

Ай бұрын

What the hell, where do you live? You guys have like 70% tax?

I used to be a PC gamer exclusively way back when, but somewhere along the way, I started using consoles more and now use them exclusively. Will they ever match a custom-built PC in performance and power? No, but I'm ok with that. As mentioned in this comment section several times, the primary reason I like consoles is that the games I play are designed to play on them. When I was building gaming PCs, I was always concerned with my hardware being good enough to play games. That and upgrading became really expensive.

@gomperhooblet

9 ай бұрын

Doesn't sound like you like games enough dude

@adrnacad3434

8 ай бұрын

No offense but it sounds like you're not building a PC with the right budget.

@bercal6180

8 ай бұрын

@@gomperhooblet ridiculous thing to say so u need to have a pc to like games? laughs in GoW and Uncharted and Spider-Man 2 keep in mind I have both but tbh playing in a relaxed way knowing my console will do 4k and play any game with ease without the need to upgrade with an extra 500$ on a gpu or cpu is a great feeling

@gorg45pro

8 ай бұрын

@@bercal6180Wow you have 3 exclusive games with 5 hours of game play each 🎉. Pc has wayyy more options, games, emulators etc. You can get the performance of ps5 with used parts easily with the used market. You dont have to pay every year a fee to play online (now each even more 😂😂). You have cheaper prices and better sales. And you have something called TRUE 4K and not upscaled which is not smt to flex about on ps5, you can just do it on pc too ... And you can upgrade your pc when the next console comes back or even later since you always have settings and mods to help you play almost everything with a potato (i have a steamdeck and although it doesnt have good specs it can still run anything you throw at it 30fps min) people complaining for not playing a game because they are spoiled from other games eith better performance, you can always turn down settings to play it. The only good thing about consoles is if you simple dont want to do even 1s of search and just plug and play (but that leaves you with trash default apps, 0% customizability and trash operating system only for games)

@karlsamuelson2906

8 ай бұрын

yeah man you should have spent at least 10K in order to play a game in Ultra graphivs

Because of the mass market adaptation of consoles and franchises that are exclusive to a given console (at least initially), many games are optimized to extract maximum performance from the respective console. This is similar in concept to an Apple computer having inferior components to a PC on paper but yet out-performing that PC in reality : there is a very tight coupling between software and hardware that much like Apple, consoles also enjoy. This basically means it is very hard to compare "apples to apples" between PC and a given console just like it is hard to compare an Apple computer with a PC if you only look at the specs. Best way to compare I'd argue is to look at performance comparisons : analyze the resolution, frame rates, and approximate the graphical settings of games available on both PC and a given console and then figure out what it takes in terms of a PC that can achieve similar performance to the console with that given game.

started with PC when I was a teen, and I was a meticulous one. As an adult with responsibilities, I prefer consoles now for optimization, price, early releases, exclusives, and time. I remember going home from work and I would troubleshoot things like RDR2 because it kept crashing every 10 minutes or Death Stranding and its anti-aliasing issues, which I fixed, but with trial and error, searching for solutions, fiddling both in game and NVIDIA settings, searching solutions on Reddit or KZread. I'm through all that stress, and I'm enjoying my time with the PS5. Also allotting some money to different hobbies and time with the family. best decision I ever made.

@rlpass.gaming9103

9 ай бұрын

Welcome to the other side. As I grow older, I prefer console to PC. It’s basically plug and play.

@nico3064

9 ай бұрын

That's the thing that keept me in console gaming for over 10 years now 👍. It just works. This year in January I bought my first gaming pc for farming simulator 22 because the mods on PC are just on a different level. Well .... Within the past few months I had way more problems than with consoles in the past 10 years

@TheLastEpiscopalian

9 ай бұрын

Couple noobs here or what. Update your PC and it works as normal. The titles available on PC are unrivalled, a lot being unavailable in either Playstation or Xbox. Have fun playing at 30fps

@jeremygabriel7813

9 ай бұрын

@@TheLastEpiscopaliani see where you’re coming from but this assumes everyone that plays on pc has higher end specs which isn’t the case

@Decadent_Descent

9 ай бұрын

@@nico3064 With greater power comes greater responsibility. I had all the same issues coming into PC gaming as well. I powered through and learned a shit ton, and now I rarely have issues. I can't imagine gaming on consoles anymore. So very limited.

B450 chipset doesn’t support PCI-e 4.0, only 3.0. You’ve utterly gimped the drive to about half its speed and is bottlenecking the 8 lane PCI-E 4060.

@calvinm1866

Жыл бұрын

True but you wouldn't notice it in games anyway.

@Olkv3D

Жыл бұрын

Gimps are hot

@touristofsongs4946

Жыл бұрын

*YOU'VE UTTERLY GIMPED THE DRIVE TO ABOUT HALF ITS SPEED* *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH* _passes out_ Reality: He lost 2 fps in minecraft

@MrPruske

Жыл бұрын

0 fps loss

@MrErball

Жыл бұрын

@@MrPruske The 4060 is an 8 lane PCI-E 4.0 gpu (vs the standard 16 lanes), meaning 8 lanes on a 3.0 motherboard is limiting half of the bandwidth that goes to the GPU. This will 100% affect FPS. It has already been proven, multiple times over.

I will be honest with you. i lost you on the gpu . The cheapest 4060 on the market 399usd is almost as expensive as the ps5. You can get a new ps5 for 408usd .

@Xanatos0504

9 ай бұрын

the 4060 is way overkill, the PS5 is about the power of the 2070.

@johnwayne-kd1pn

9 ай бұрын

You think Sony pay store prices for their components? They buy millions of these components, so they make deals with the providers (like AMD).. Not only that, but lifetime deals of say 8 years and tens of millions of components. Perhaps AMD lose money of the first 10 million, and only make a little on the next 10 million, but then they profit huge on the last tens of millions. PC people simply don't understand the console market.. They think of it as a "different PC market", but it's not, everything is quite different. From the OS, to the machine purpose, to suppliers, to game development etc etc etc..

@Xanatos0504

9 ай бұрын

@@johnwayne-kd1pn while they do get them cheaper, they still don't get top of the line. 4K on a PS5 is not true 4K resolution. It is upscaled. Which means even if they were to get a discount from AMD, it would still be expensive as hell to get a true 4k60 machine.

@johnwayne-kd1pn

9 ай бұрын

@@Xanatos0504 Sure. What I mean to say was only that most likely Sony pays a "lifetime" price for components, tens of millions of them. Not even regular production cost. At least that's how it seems to me, and I'm guessing Xbox does the same, seeing how it is also priced below market. Besides that, both initially, despite even that, sell their consoles at a loss. Yeah, I don't think we get 4K and 60fps until next generation, also on PC, around that time. Anyways, by that time, Raytracing will have progressed ALOT too and become a viable technology.. Today it is just in its infancy, or just past it, somewhere. Seeing how expensive it is (GPU/resource wise), perhaps even the next generation will be a compromise and a choice somehow. No doubt some will use it as an excuse to continue using the awful 30fps. But well, perhaps I'm wrong.. But global raytracing should be possible by then, and so should say 120fps 4k.. I really hope 30fps will just die then, but I'm not too hopeful.

Is that motherboard going to fit into the mATX case? Let's see you build this rig an benchmark it. You could have saved some money by going with a PCIe 3 SSD.

@mikesheber2205

Жыл бұрын

Or just buying a ps5

@Slobodan26

9 ай бұрын

hahahahahaha i just wanted also to ask same question :P how he will fit ATX mobo into mATX case lol :P

@klvn2266

9 ай бұрын

@@mikesheber2205 a pc could do other stuff besides gaming that consoles couldn't, and if you build a more powerful pc now, when PS6 comes out, you'll only need to swap up some parts to match the newer consoles, or who knows, it might even still be a match.. and i think even the specs in this video is already above the performance of a PS5

@tristan-lp7uw

8 ай бұрын

@@mikesheber2205 lol first try finding one thatis not the same price as that PC

This video reminds me on the The Verge how to build a gaming pc video, in terms of the choices that they made for the components. Crazy enough that the comparision to the ps5 is lame for the fact that it comes ready to go out of the box with a controller and a BD drive and they were no where near the price point of a ps5.

@nerd20fromdiscord

10 ай бұрын

They where no where near the price of a ps5 cuz the pc they built absolutely obliterates the ps5s performance 😂

@nathanacreman632

9 ай бұрын

You need to take into account the fact that you need to pay for PS Plus for basically anything online. PC has no mandatory subscriptions really. Over 4 or 5 years PS plus comes out to a few hundred bucks.

@zg3746

9 ай бұрын

THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

@Benri05

9 ай бұрын

By choosing parts that are way more powerful than what the ps5 has, of course it'll be much more expensive. If they actually picked parts that are inline with the spec of the ps5 like a ryzen 3600 and a 2080 then the price would be close.

i would have liked to see fps comparisons from the ps5 and comparative pc

@lazarushernandez5827

9 ай бұрын

Yes. There are plenty of current games including those Sony early exclusives out on both platforms. It would be interesting to show the comparison between the suggested spec in the video, as well as a few in the comments.

@madsimilius7057

9 ай бұрын

gamer nexus did it two years ago and matched the ps5 to a gtx 1070 pc :P a 1070 gpu cost cost about 50 dollars

@foodthatsgood150

9 ай бұрын

I read the 1070 is roughly a 6.5 TFLOP card @@madsimilius7057

@design4u1717

9 ай бұрын

bullshxt AF@@madsimilius7057

@yamiimax

9 ай бұрын

​@@madsimilius7057well try games of 2023 with a 1070 and you will see it lost even on fhd haha

how do you plan to fit that ATX board on a MATX case? you also wasted that PCIE Gen 4.0 nvme on that mobo which doesn't support Gen 4

@akilbaptiste6942

Жыл бұрын

Haha they clearly didn’t think it through

@ADRzone

Жыл бұрын

The GPU is overkill also, it has been said that the PS5 is around the 2060 super to may be 2070, so is the Xseries. Then he made his GPU choice by matching Tflops 😂, no one buys a GPU based on Tflops.

@longlostcoder6322

Жыл бұрын

I would agree with the 2070. But the 4060, ain't really better then the 2070

@theepicduck6922

Жыл бұрын

@ADRzone Going overkill on GPU can be somewhat justified due to how awful the optimization has been lately for pc ports (hell AAA has been real awful there lately).

@ADRzone

Жыл бұрын

@@theepicduck6922 I know... But the thing is that the 2070 is already an overkill GPU, when compared to the PS5 and Series X. Because these GPUs are the ones capable to match the performance and visuals, sometimes over taking the consoles, sometimes falling slightly short, but most times being better. This is why the 2060super and 2070 are considered the best match. If these GPUs will get the same love and optimization that consoles get, they'll actually be way overkill.

I was waiting to see you build it and find out the ATX motherboard wasn't going to fit into the Micro ATX case.

@madmatt2024

9 ай бұрын

And that his gen 4 SSD won't run at full speed on a B450 motherboard.

Seems like most people who would be interested in doing this are probably pc owners already and would simply need to upgrade a few components. I've been using the same pc case for years and have upgraded it several times and usually my psu lasts through several upgrades. I think you also have to consider value of a PC vs a PS5 too, I can do a lot more with my PC than I can with my PS5 and I have all kinds of electronic devices that require a PC.

@johnwayne-kd1pn

9 ай бұрын

This is a two edged sword. PS5 is a pure "gaming PC" so to say, so it's fully optimized for playing games, not doing other things. But sure, most people have a PC or something to do other things than just play games. Usually a laptop or something like that, but desktop works just as well, and like you say is then 2 in 1, so you don't need a 2nd PC besides your gaming PC (PS5)..

@nico3064

9 ай бұрын

The next question is, do you even need a PC ? I bought one for gaming in January. I haven't had one before and I never needed one 😆

Personally I think he should have went with an actual RDNA series gpu because most ps5 games don't use ray tracing or take such a hit in performance that it'd be a comparable card possibly shave off that extra $70 and have longevity (like an actual game console) due to the higher RAM in AMD cards. But this is just being nitpicky because bro took the time to make a whole video.

@Flyon86

9 ай бұрын

Probably an rx 6600 or rx 6650xt would be a better comparison and are a fair bit cheaper than a 4060. Rx 6600 is probably slightly below ps5 performance, but you can find a new one on sale for under $200 now.

@Xanatos0504

9 ай бұрын

@@Flyon86 hell even the 6600M is abouit 5% slower than the PS5

remember, it might be a little bit more expensive to build a gaming pc, but you are building a pc, so it's a multipurpose device, plus you get access to steam, epic store and gog which means, there is a huge library of games you could play and a lot of them are dirt cheap if you buy it with the right time... you also get access to xbox games if you wanted too and you can also emulate any game you want... you cant play pokemon games on PS5, but you can on PC.

@createLazyWorkerJack

9 ай бұрын

I don't think average people need a gaming pc as a multipurpose device. You don't need a powerful pc if you're not a content creator or streamer. My choice was PS5 plus a cheap laptop, which was overall still cheaper than a gaming pc. Having huge library and emulator is a fair point though.

@OberWanKenobii

9 ай бұрын

@@createLazyWorkerJack 100FPS, 4k max setting pc's are built for $700-$800 daily. But whatever helps ya sleep at night kiddo

@createLazyWorkerJack

9 ай бұрын

​@@OberWanKenobii I still need a laptop for work so gaming pc won't save my money.

@OberWanKenobii

9 ай бұрын

@createLazyWorkerJack you children have an excuse for everything, huh? Do you think normal programs just don't run on desktops? And I can already read your next excuse: "oh, I need to bring my laptop in to work."

@TheTiredhermit

7 ай бұрын

Who the hell is playing Pokémon lol?

It's GPU is technically most similar to a RX 6700 but it can't clock as high as MHZ because of overheating issues so is probably closer to a 5700 XT, which in turn boost clocks to nearly as high.

@raymondtunacao8774

9 ай бұрын

Also, based on what I read online, on the Nvidia side, an RTX 2070 Super is as powerful as the GPU in the PS5. Correct me if I'm wrong though

@TheXipherZero

9 ай бұрын

Its much closer to a 5700XT with most decent 5700XT cards being able to run at their boost clocks. Many of the choices he made for his component selection really didnt make sense if trying to build as close to a like for like as possible. I ran the numbers through PCPartpicker and came up with a build budget ~$500-$550.

@georgkeller3225

9 ай бұрын

technically yes but thats bulshit. digital foundry tested rtx 4060 vs ps5 gpu. they was in the same level. I dont know how sony did this but it is what it is.

@majorasspain5341

9 ай бұрын

​@@georgkeller3225it's the SSD In the ps5.its controller has a custom hardware decompression block that will do the work of the CPU and send uncompressed assets straight into Vram to be processed instantly. On pc without direct storage the assets are put into system ram in a compressed state the. The CPU will decompress and put it into Vram With direct storage it still needs to use the CPU for decompression With direct storage and RTX IO the assets go into ram in a compressed state then that compressed data goes into Vram to be decompressed by the GPU then processed. So the ps5 has far less hoops to jump through to deliver that data to the GPU

@thepierre396

7 ай бұрын

The point is to get the same perfs. The optimization on a ps5 will always be better, so you need to compensate with better hardware on PC to get the same performances

one thing is 4060 is way more powerful and has frame generation which make it overkill and to forget the fact that you can have gamepass or buy games at lower price in a steam sale rather paying more to sony in a locked environment. extra 250$ is manageable because you dont need to pay sony to play online multiplayer and hence it covers the cost over there

@KOrnhOliO1

9 ай бұрын

Exactly, plus the 4060 was essentially HALF of the PC's total cost!

@xpodx

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for that, most people don't add that. I'd say add 5 years with the console. So let's say 330 at least on top of it.

@likhithm3097

8 ай бұрын

@@xpodx tbh ps5 is really worth it unless you are not playing multiplayer game and not buying their shit subscription. Haptics are really good and optimisation will be great too. My only complain is its almost 3 years and slim is about arrive but they have not reduced the price

@xpodx

8 ай бұрын

@@likhithm3097 I mean to each there own.

broooo the motherboad dosent even support pcie gen 4 ssd so how are you gonna put the samsung 980 pro in it. also the case supports only m atx mobo so how can you fit an atx mobo in it

cool video, and well done. I also think that going the pc route has advantages in the longer term. The ability to continually upgrade a pc alllows you to get maximum use/value out of your components not to mention residual value of functional replaced components. I think console is the "easy way to go" and understand the thinking but I think that the price/performance on pc's and pc components has been improving for years and it doesn't look that will change in the foreseeable future.

@gilco2832

9 ай бұрын

but wouldnt be the money you spend on the upgrades eventualy be as expensive as buying the by then new ps?

@DazednConfused0

9 ай бұрын

not really, for example i have a i7 3gen I am still using because I have added some ram I got for free and made at least 3 upgrades to the GPU since I bought it in 2012 I have no interest in going higher than 1080 and am able to use all software and games I need. So in the last 11 years spent less than 200 on upgrades and it is still going strong, at least for what I need it for @@gilco2832

@mrgalaxy396

9 ай бұрын

Consoles are meant to be easy. I can buy a game and know it will work on my console just fine. On PC it's a bit of a gamble how well it will run. I know how to work with PC hardware, I just don't want the hastle. I just want to sit down after work and jump into the game I want. I've never cared about optimal performance and insane graphics. That's who consoles are for.

@stef2499

9 ай бұрын

Pc is the only logical choice for me. I need a fast pc for non gaming as well. Having the ability to game in free time is just the added bonus.

@OberWanKenobii

9 ай бұрын

@@mrgalaxy396 Whatever helps ya sleep at night kid

You could just use a Ryzen 7 3700X for the CPU. Honestly, even a 10th gen from intel would be comparable to the PS5 like the 10600K. Honestly, PC gaming is fun and all but it's costly.

$770 and you can't play on it because you didn't include a controller. Which is fascinating, by the way, that the architecture itself, CPU and GPU, get cheaper every year, the price of a controller stays the same in general.

@lafelas7244

2 ай бұрын

Ps5 need tv tho

@uchennaobi5985

Ай бұрын

@@lafelas7244 pc doesn't need a monitor though. The air can display our games

I have.a question as my bro and i were discussing this.. does the usb on ps5 support mouse and jeyboard? .. thoughts are wireless as a possibility for living room lc/ps5

@johnwayne-kd1pn

9 ай бұрын

Yes.. I've seen some settings on the PS5 for keyboard and mouse. Not sure what they do exactly, and I have't tried M/K, but if the settings are there M/K must be possible I think. Maybe not in games though..

Im probably just dumb but were there any fans for the tower included in this? If not how many and where from should i be looking.

@Riz_Rizen

Жыл бұрын

You probably shouldn't follow the parts list on this video, there are a few very noticeable compatibility issues.

@dracoxander7558

Жыл бұрын

@@Riz_Rizen I've noticed, getting a different motherboard and I'm good with a 4060, the performance difference doesn't bother me

I thought I read that the PS5 gpu is most similar to the specs of a 10gb RX 6700. I have one paired with a 5600 cpu and I think that would be a closer match.

@jakesghost5267

9 ай бұрын

I've seen 2070 too, either way not a shock that nothing comes close to it within a $400 price tag

@gandalfurisotherworldly7909

9 ай бұрын

5600 is far too powerful i think the 3600 is closer

@DragoonO777

9 ай бұрын

Ryzen 3600 is more like it

@MrSupplementScene

9 ай бұрын

It is technically most similar to a RX 6700 but it can't clock as high as MHZ because of overheating issues so is probably closer to a 5700, which in turn boost clocks to about as high.

@Omar-kl3xp

9 ай бұрын

@@jakesghost5267arguably a 2070ti or a 2080 , maybe in some games even higher

Might as well get an NVME samsung 970 if you dont have pcie4.0. 6650 xt also way cheaper than that 4060

@viperdemonz-jenkins

9 ай бұрын

guy does not know what he is even talking about so what do you expect.

When i saw the word powerful in the thumbnail i laughed. 😂

Surprising revelation on the price from a few years ago? GPU price gauging was insane a few years ago

P.O.V you watch this video right after LTT's video about how they are testing PSU's, meaning the Thermal take is 80 plus White certified (not really a good thing). I would splurge a little on the PSU and go for something at least 80 plus Broze certified (more trustworthy rating)

@rxfaction9736

Жыл бұрын

Friendly reminder that the 80+ rating is for efficiency ONLY, and efficiency does not equal quality or how long it will last. I've had Gold EVGA PSUs blow up in a month. Gotta research each PSU individually to make sure it's quality. Corsair makes some great units btw

@Kiss-shot500

Жыл бұрын

80+ Bronze is NOT a more trustworthy rating. It's that a few more % of your energy consumption is actually used by your PC. In general you can say that your PSU has to have at least a 80+ rating because that way you know it has been tested and won't burn down your house lol. But this guy in the video doesn't seem to know much about PC's so better to not build this almost 2x more expensive PC without any data to back up that it can render the games as fast as the PS5 😅

@reisshep

9 ай бұрын

@@Kiss-shot500 Exactly that. So many people skip on good PSUs and cases and then wonder why are their temps bad and why isn't their PC performing as it should.

@robertodupinet5415

9 ай бұрын

Thats a F tier in the cultist list. terrible video

Worst thing for me about pc gaming has been the updates and the having trouble shoot all the time with random issues for someone like me that gets out of work and just want to play a few games I ended up on my ps5 of Xbox series x and barely use my gaming pc. I have also found in fps games you run into so many cheaters.

@GoodwillWright

10 ай бұрын

Warranty is also much easier to obtain on a PS5. In Australia, you can get an in-store replacement. So no need to wait for a technician or yourself to check which component is at fault, you just have the whole unit replaced. Thankfully though, I've been lucky and have never once got a faulty PC component despite the fact I not only build multiple PCs for myself, but also for others as well. But that could be due to Australia's strict consumer standards. Only problem I find with consoles, especially Sony is when they try launching them at $800+ AUD. Not only that, but they have a really bad launch lineup of games. It definitely makes it hard for consoles to be a year 1 or year 2 buy. $600 AUD is more reasonable as a consumer-friendly, high end console but even that will still limit buyers greatly unless you have a strong game lineup. Xbox and Switch have much more convincing pricing model.

@LudusAurea

10 ай бұрын

Gross over exaggeration. I’ve had to troubleshoot an issue once in the past 6 years and it wasn’t even game breaking

@GoodwillWright

10 ай бұрын

@@LudusAurea What you may not be considering are the steps you've taken to avoid the need of fixing or troubleshooting. I have computers that outside of regular updates (which even that can be hard for people) I've never had to touch in 6 years as well. Although I probably should. A lot of issues people have with computers is due to Windows updates. Half of my business is driving out to people's houses and clicking windows update for $50 per job. Some I can get them to do it over the phone, but a lot of my clients just prefer me to come out and do it.

@trinimafia001

9 ай бұрын

what issue with updates? and troubleshooting issues all the time? both sounds like a YOUR system issue cuz my pc is on 24/7 and not a single issue. Anytime im ready to game i jus go. You overexaggerate and what you said sound like your system is just trash

@dfwmonkie

9 ай бұрын

😂

does that b450 support pcie 4.0? I think most b450 boards only support 3.0.The performance difference isn't much to be concerned over though.

There's a lot of people talking about the specced hardware and compatibility... But I also think it's worth highlighting no peripherals, OS, etc etc. This is just like for like hardware and the sum is always greater then the parts. Add to that peripherals.. Either a cheap keyboard and mouse and a controller for gaming.. or just a keyboard and mouse which you would want a gaming one. If you're going to use it with your TV then makes the use of it as a PC for other tasks more awkward. If going to use it as at a desk then a monitor as well. And with all this frame rate talk you need a good monitor, plus speakers or one with them built in. Also an OS, which really is going to be windows; you can use a Linux for free but then have the negatives associated for general use. On top of that, it would be a very blah looking pc. To have a stylish setup to match ps5 aesthetics you're paying out for better case, matching cables etc. But! More than all that, anyone here built their own pc knows that when you've "decided" on what you want... You end up scrolling that little bit further down the 'sort price ascending' list and "ooh, for just another $40" I can get the next model up... And so on and so on. Based on your core items there; you would be talking easy over a grand to do a proper match up.

So the series x is the last Xbox I’ll ever buy. Gonna get a pc next. Any suggestions? 4k 60 is what I’m shooting for.

@DKarkarov

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, none of the components this guy recommended is a good starting point. Other than the nvme SSD anyway, everything else he says to get is a bad purchase and will not perform well at 4k. At least not on modern games like the new horizon or cyberpunks upcoming dlc.

@TheBlayner

Жыл бұрын

@@DKarkarov what can 3,000 get me?

@DKarkarov

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBlayner well for 1700 or so on amazon right now you can get a amd 5800x 3d, 32 gb of gskill ddr4 4000 speed ram, a msi mpg x570 edge motherboard, a nvidia rtx 4070, a corsair 1000 watt fully modular gold certified psu, a lian li lancool 2 mesh case, a samsung 980 pro 2tb nvme m.2 drive, and an artic cooling liquid freezer 2 240mm aio for the cpu. That will beat a ps5, you get to save 1300 dollars, and you meet the system recommended spec for cyperpunk phantom liberty ultra 4k 60 fps with ray tracing off. Of course some of that relies on prime day deals and USA prices. Also I didn't add a copy of windows, but that can be gotten cheap on some sites. Yes, legally.

It’s worth mentioning that technically your games are stored digitally on PC. So perhaps a better comparison would be to the digital version.

@bricaaron3978

9 ай бұрын

That's not true. My PC has an optical drive and I am able to play all of the disc-based games I have (as well as purchase more if I want to). The so-called "digital" designation refers not to how games are stored when they are installed, but how they are delivered. [12-7-23 Edited for clarity]

@balloonb0y677

8 ай бұрын

@@bricaaron3978they sell discs for pc games? 💀

@bricaaron3978

8 ай бұрын

@@balloonb0y677 Sure! Just not new PC games. :P

Is this being patient and building it over a year. to get all the website deals?

I'd say 6600xt or 5700xt would be better match - same technology - and cheaper

58$ less than it would cost to build a PC that equals a series X. This has been done to death.

That 7000mbs speed of the ssd is irrelevant to your build. Your motherboard only allows up to 3500mbs speed I think. If you want to maximize 7kmbs, you should have gone with an x570 motherboard.

@throwoing

9 ай бұрын

or a b550

You can't really compare the two. Yeah they both play games, but one of them is infinitely more useful than just playing games and that comes at a cost

Do you think Rx 6800xt is good before I want to buy ps5 or Xbox series x but my mind change lol before I wanna buy iPad Pro and bought iPhone 14 pro max instead what’s wrong with me -_-

interesting, i would like a number of alternatives, with pricing and performance comparison.

Since this PC has no Blu-ray drive, it should be compared to the $400 PS5.

@Blackfatrat

9 ай бұрын

eh not really. Playstation store games aren't cheap lol. Steam sales will have games insanely cheap. Only way to get cheap ps5 games is buying used disks.

@MrAstraldreamer

9 ай бұрын

I have a blu ray player in my pc

@h0pesfall

9 ай бұрын

And a PS5 has no screen... 🙄

@Fafnir2000

9 ай бұрын

@@Blackfatratwtf does it have to do with a hardware, i mean the blueray drive is not free lol

@Fafnir2000

9 ай бұрын

@@h0pesfallWhat is a Monitor

I don't think That motherboard supports PCIe 4.0 drives. You're losing performance by not taking full advantage of the full read and write speeds in that interface. You'd need a b550 mobo.

@leanlifter1

9 ай бұрын

A full fat PCIe 3.0 PC build is better than the integrated shared system laptop hardware of the PS5 that is already a few generations old. 16gb shared system memory is not better than 16+ GB dedicated system memory with 8gb+ dedicated Vram plus unlimited cooling to keep it running full out not throttled back due to the inherent laptop hardware thermal constraints on PS5.

Beginning of the video: PC makes more sense from financial perspective. End of video: PC costs almost 50% more than PS5.

Can you please list the games you showed here? They all looked great and i did not recognize them Cheers

With components getting back to somewhat reasonable prices, as long as you already have a monitor and basic accessories I'm betting you can get pretty close at that price point.

@gamble777888

9 ай бұрын

And while the PS5 is definitely a fairly priced piece of HW where you really take it up the ass in that ecosystem if paying for everything else. Expensive low value subsprictions, 70$ USD games etc.

@Username-2

9 ай бұрын

@@gamble777888The PlayStation and Xbox stores have the same game pricing as steam now. In fact when games on the console stores are on sale they are generally on sale on steam for the same price. You do get shafted on the ~60 a year for online though.

@TitusMH

9 ай бұрын

@@gamble777888it’s called go get high paying job stop crying 😅

@user-et4fl4zp2n

9 ай бұрын

@@gamble777888 Don't buy any subscriptions, wait for prices on games to drop before buying. (Same advice applies to PC, really.) Problem solved.

@TheXipherZero

9 ай бұрын

I mean... the PS5 doesnt come with a TV.... Basically a mouse and keyboard is the only thing that can reasonably be expected to be included in pricing. And maybe controller if you dont have one laying around.

The funny thing is I have most of the similar components in my computer except for the graphics card.

@superC1266

Жыл бұрын

It's fine the 4060ti is way overkill if you wanted this ps5 build

@jean-pierreraduocallaghan8422

Жыл бұрын

@@superC1266 in the video he said that he used a 4060 (even though they showed the 4060ti render from Nvidia).

For those who actually want a pc on part with a ps5 . It costs 600 usd . R5 5600 with rx 7600 If you can get a good deal on a 6700xt your getting way more performance . Btw Amd makes the pc 5 chipz, the 6700(non xt) is basically a pc version of the pc gpu , but it can boost 10% faster . If your willing to buy a used gpu , you can get a 6700xt /6750xt you can get them for 190-220 usd in the Us .

Where is the windows? Where is the controller or the mouse and keyboard? The cables? The blue ray player?

This PC runs 4K @120? I built a 13th gen ddr5 3090 premium build and I settled on a 1440 target. That was wayyyy more than $750.

@skellecraft2464

Жыл бұрын

could be due to the fact that prices are cheaper in the US.

@Specialblend777

Жыл бұрын

@@skellecraft2464 I'm in the US. My 3090 and i7 13th gen were $1300 alone. Total was somewhere around 3400 and I can't run AA games at 4K 120fps.

@leanlifter1

9 ай бұрын

​@@Specialblend777in a few years a mid range system will run all the new games of current better than your top end system C/W bleeding edge early adopters tax.

@accountteam9859

4 ай бұрын

Nah, but the PS5 doesn't either.

@RengokuAMVs-im6xy

2 ай бұрын

The PS5 Can’t even run a stable 120 FPS in 1080p Fortnite let alone 4k And 120 FPS is for only comp shooters Not Casual Games

comparing a driveless build to a ps5 with BR drive thats not a balance comparison

@johanharris5698

5 ай бұрын

Also forgetting the 60$ controller on purpose :)

If I'm gaming online or making YT videos, going live, etc...would the ps5 disc version be the better option right now? I have monitors, mic, cameras, keyboard, and mouse.

@leanlifter1

9 ай бұрын

Build a competent PC and then get the PS5 for the exclusives if you even like to play them. The best of both. Consoles are exspensive because nobody factors in the 100 plus dollars a year just to get the most out of it but hey you get a gamepad with the console lol.

@SoonerHistory

9 ай бұрын

@@leanlifter1 already have a gaming laptop.

@leanlifter1

9 ай бұрын

@@SoonerHistory Hopefully it's a decent one so you don't complain that computers suck and PS5 is king because your laptop is weaksauce and it not even as powerful as a console.

@SoonerHistory

9 ай бұрын

@@leanlifter1 You are a goofy bastard. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I have a 6700xt... but having framedrops... is it because of my Ryzen 5 1500x cpu??? I also have 16gb ram so i don't think that's the issue.

@arifsoetanto7533

7 ай бұрын

If your Mb support, upgrade to ryzen 5600 is a good move.

@Dramatello

7 ай бұрын

@@arifsoetanto7533 thank you. I’ll probably end up doing just that. I do consider 3600 or a used 3600x … just cause I’m really limited financially. But we’ll see.

Nice video, however... with the budget of under $600 I believe we can build much better Gaming PC than that $700 up in your video

@ToGrimmToWin

9 ай бұрын

Yeah some of the prices he stated he paid for this stuff is high

Gpu inside the ps5 is more inline with rx 5700xt/rx 6700. And the cpu with its 1/4 memory chache vs desktop variant means it performs more like a ryzen 7 1700.

@widrolo

9 ай бұрын

looking at specs, the ps5 gpu is pretty much the rx 6700

@JeffCollins05

9 ай бұрын

Id say the cpu is a 3700 non x, if such a cpu existed

@iamagood6452

9 ай бұрын

@@JeffCollins05 an downclocked 3700x? for temperature purposes probably

@JeffCollins05

9 ай бұрын

@@iamagood6452 yeah that would also be an option

@qqqqqq4352

9 ай бұрын

@@JeffCollins05 No, a 3700 is sustantially faster than whats in a ps5. You dont just look at the number of cores, there are more things involved. Severely cutdown cache, frequency and power. The ps5 cpu is a 4800S, sold in China. DF already got one and did videos about it. There are games like Cyberpunk or Metro where a vanilla 3600 is 40-50% faster than the ps5 cpu

Was the cost of the OS included as well? Windows doesn't ship for free.

@zoiuduu

6 ай бұрын

he sais in the video

The Kraken I/O co-processor is so hard to emulate, that's the main headache when porting PS5 titles to PC.

You forgot the ease of jumping straight into a game on PS5, no error messages to deal with, no manually changing configuration files, no replacing dlls, comes with controller, cheaper games in general (when on sale compared to steam), less frequent and more stable OS updates(compared to windows),

Got a 3060 ti and a 5800x and it blows my mind everyday after almost 2 years now , love this pc

@bobbyharris2270

9 ай бұрын

@lonewolf_09you are full of shit you are talking about intel they changed cpu lay out socket every 2 to 3 years while amd has been supported its socket it for more then that like 6 to 7 years

@HellRaiZOR13

9 ай бұрын

​@lonewolf_09moreover people don't realize that PCs in the long run save's money for them as well when they buy games lots of frequent sales and there are also so many sellers on the PC market where you can get such a great deal on bundles. I would say that PC saves money in the long run than consoles in my opinion. Games Are way more expensive in consoles moreover you also have to pay to play online which is another bullshit thing that I don't like about consoles. Also PCs can be used for more than just gaming. People only judge two platforms based on the initial investment not long-term.

@nico3064

9 ай бұрын

​@@HellRaiZOR13even long term, consoles are just cheaper than a PC. Invest the extra bucks in the disc version and you easily the same discounts for games as on PC. Once you have to upgrade your pc shit's gonna get expensive. Cause what are the things that mostly run out of required performance ? The heavy hitters. CPU/GPU. So every few years you gonna spend the equivalent or more of a whole console to keep the same level. A console on the other had you gonna buy once and it will last for the whole console generator which is 7-8 years. Good luck keeping a CPU/GPU as long without heavy performance losses

hey bro how u will fit ATX mobo into mATX case lol :P XD maybe u will need to cut some corners of the mobo lol :P

Just so you know the 5600x does come with a wraith stealth cooler as well

now do a “can a PS5 be as powerful as a PC?” video 😂😂

@emansfvera

Жыл бұрын

Now can a gaming pc be as powerful as a quantum pc? 😂

@Olkv3D

Жыл бұрын

now do a "Can a Ps5 be as powerful as a Kodiak Bear?"

@Cosmicmorales

Жыл бұрын

@@emansfvera they probably will in the near future tbh

@DKarkarov

Жыл бұрын

Actually thanks to how much optimization matters the PS5 can equal the performance in gaming of PCs that on paper destroy it and cost 4x+ times more money. Look at star wars jedi survivor for example.

@TheWitch297

11 ай бұрын

@@DKarkarov in your dreams lol. jedi survivor ran at 640p on performance mode, and 1440p upscaled to 4k on quality mode targeting 30fps, and still couldnt maintain 30 lmao. 4x equals $2000. that would get you a 4070ti and a zen4 7800x3D which is the best cpu money can buy. a ps5 would be nowhere in that ballpark unless you can show me a video of it doing native 4k at 60fps in this game, without upscaling at that 😂

I'll agree, strictly as a gaming build, the PS5 is a better deal, but PS5 is just for gaming. Yes, it can do other things, but it's very limited. A PC is more than just gaming. It can do other things the PS5 can't or probably, more accurate, won't.

@reg-gie

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@miscellaneouslyric

11 ай бұрын

Facts

@HotPocketEnjoyer

11 ай бұрын

Plus no subscription service to play online and lots of cheap gaming deals

@sovietninja6865

11 ай бұрын

Yeah would take it back! The pc is cheaper now that the subscription just to play online increased.

@wcw209suck

11 ай бұрын

@@sovietninja6865 I can just buy a cheap $300 laptop and do my homework,etc since I don't game on PC.

Wait, did you put an ATX board in an mATX case?

Whats the game at 7:18?

Well, building your own PC is the best thing you can do. If you pay for a pre built, you are paying a 15-20% markup to whoever actually built it Also, games that are made for PS5 are made exactly for PS5 and you dont have adjust many settings to make it run optimally Also, while your more expensive computer parts become outdated over time, new consoles will always relatively cheap Also many games are made for consoles anyway and end up not running well on PC ie Elden Ring, Jedi Survivor, The Last of Us

@itsallmakebelieve9151

Жыл бұрын

Pre builts may have some good specs but they cheap out where possible to keep profit margins high. Build a pc.

@BamBam0141

Жыл бұрын

Computer parts have longer lifespans than entire consoles. You also don't have to completely rebuild your PC to stay up to date, just a part here and there. The initial cost may be a little bit above consoles, but you save in the long run. After a few years you're replacing your entire console while a pc only needs to replace 1 or 2 parts, making it way cheaper to move to "next gen". Not to mention that people often forget about CONTROLLERS when it comes to console when you're considering the price. Controllers are about $80 a pop now and most people want at least 2 of them. So your $500 Ps5 is actually $660. Not to mention those controllers become obsolete with the next gen. Considering this along with everything else makes it obvious what wins in the long run. The only game you listed for one platform in mind was TLOU because it was originally only for one platform. Everything else was released across all. Elden Ring doesn't have PC issues and you cherry picked 2 other poor use cases. If you want to do that, look at Diablo 4 for consoles and all the stability and disconnect issues people have.

@kieranczyzniejewski2178

Жыл бұрын

@@BamBam0141 Yeah, consoles.

@BamBam0141

Жыл бұрын

@@kieranczyzniejewski2178 LOLno. But go off. Just say you like throwing money in the garbage.

@kieranczyzniejewski2178

Жыл бұрын

@@BamBam0141 Sounds like what you're advocating for

I think we're forgetting a decent mouse and keyboard in order to play those games well... at least in the general point of view, which could add the cost around $80-200 depends on their personal preferences.

@bricaaron3978

9 ай бұрын

You can pay a lot less than that. But you must also remember that the mouse and KB will last through multiple systems, unlike console controllers.

Now lets see the pc and monitor turn on itself with a single button press from a wireless controller 3 meters away, and get in game by 10 seconds

choosing b450 motherboard will bottleneck the performance of rtx 4060, because the latter utilize pcie 4.0 16x while the motherboard capped at pcie 3.0 16x. though i don't know how much performance would drop.

PC master race 😎👍

The comments are hilarious. PC gamers acting like snobs and forgetting why we play games in the first place. Fighting over which cards to use, who is superior, how consoles have no value and at the same time complain about bad ports, graphic cards and parts issues, my card is better, my case is better, my power supply is better 😂😂 its like watching children fight over a toy at walmart.

@parasite-b9604

5 ай бұрын

I agree. I'm a PC gamer and I've never understood this bullshit. We all have exactly the same thing in common. We like gaming! That's that.

@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE

5 ай бұрын

Sounds just like console fanboys

@parasite-b9604

5 ай бұрын

@@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE why do you care? If you want to be that petty, I can be that petty, too. It would be "fanboy", not "fanboys", because you are replying to one person, that I assume you think are a console gamer, correct? It's fucking stupid, isn't it, when someone judges someone for something that really doesn't even fucking matter... "fanboy", not fanboys"... Sit with that, and take it onboard. Realise how fucking stupid, and meaningless all of this is.

@SunGodNikaUsopp

5 ай бұрын

​@@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE u sound like u can afford 4000$ pc but in reality is broke 😂

@outworlddragoon

5 ай бұрын

1800 bucks can get you a nice pc these days. but you dont have to be a snob about it. just a suggestion, but step off that pedestal u put yourself on and come back down to reality with the rest of us. @@SOWICKEDIMWUZIE

The specs on the PS5 were frozen when it came out. It never was equal to top of the line back then. The PS5/computer worlds are totally different. I am lucky enough to have both.

You need to add , blu ray disc for pc , a monitor , a desk , mouse pad , keyboard mouse and i room with window near the desk and a gaming chair

The only thing you need to know is that games are optimized for consoles and will work fine. On the other hand, if you have low end PC every game could be a hit or miss on performance.

For me the issue isn’t as much cost as it is convenience. Knowing the game I buy will work on my hardware at optimal settings (that I don’t have to play with) has always been my reason for not PC gaming. Because every PC is different, this just can’t happen on computers.

@bricaaron3978

9 ай бұрын

For me the issue isn’t as much cost as it is freedom. Knowing that I'm not at the mercy of Big Console dictating every aspect of my gaming experience from top to bottom. I outgrew consoles (though I still play my old ones, of course).

@cursetheserpent

9 ай бұрын

Most games actually have auto optimizations based on the gpu you have. There’s not much set up at all. Not anymore than you do on a console really.

@bricaaron3978

9 ай бұрын

@@cursetheserpent He's talking about the base-level coding of the engines and games. Since the Great Consolization of 2008, all AAA games are designed and coded for console HW **. They don't run near as well as they would on PC if they were coded specifically for PC architecture. PCs use brute force to overcome the poor coding/optimization. This is something that has made me very unhappy, but even so there are _far, far_ more reasons to support the open PC paradigm than the proprietary console paradigm. ** With a _few_ exceptions, namely Crysis: Warhead (2008), The Witcher: Enhanced Edition (2008), Left 4 Dead (2008) Left 4 Dead 2 (2009), and Portal 2 (2011).

@aldeed

9 ай бұрын

this argument has never worked, you don't even know what you're talking about - PCs support more games than all consoles combined and they get updates for much longer and more frequently too. It might cost a little bit more to get similar spec on a PC but the game will run at higher detail, higher fps and much smoother overall. And if there's ever an issue, you can actually try and sort it out yourself because you aren't locked out. Consoles games are not better optimized they are butchered with all sorts of technologies that artificially improve frame rates and in most cases just use lower quality textures and shadows since most console gamers don't know their games look trash. Most of those technologies end up coming to PC, too...

@balloonb0y677

8 ай бұрын

@@aldeedbro the same thing is happening with PCs… coff coff.. DLSS Everyone views it as free performance boosts but are to dumb to realize that they are paying for AI cores in their gpu to support dlss. And have you noticed that the 40 series cards are only more expensive because of the AI cores. There wasn’t really any hardware advantages. All In all people are getting scammed for worse upgrades rather literally hardware upgrades.

You missed to add in buy list one DualSense controller and OS to boot and play games😂

Will the ps5 ever run 60fps on pquality mode?

Before we get into this video, I just want to say that I'm curious to see if you're going to take into account the design and optimization that has gone into the PS5 that gains up to an extra 20% to 23%more performance out of the hardware compared to an equivalent PC.

Great video ! Would Love to see you do one for the Series X as well !

@fazercraig9652

Жыл бұрын

Lol they would be building the same thing pretty much

@jean-pierreraduocallaghan8422

Жыл бұрын

@@fazercraig9652 sort of. But the Series X has 12 tflops vs the 10.85 tflops that the PS5 has. Plus the SSD is slower.

@TheHorizon747

9 ай бұрын

​​​@@jean-pierreraduocallaghan8422 The ps5s ssd is much faster than the Xboxs Look I lt up!, plus two teraflops don't really make much of a difference

The Aorus B450 Motherboard uses PCIE 3.0 I'd recommend to get an Asrock B550 for the same price and has it PCIE 4.0

Dang, that's pretty close to my rig. 5600 G + 3060 12 GB + the same RAM + 1TB SSD + 500W PSU. At a total 300-ish TDP I should be fine, but I'd like to be safer.

My current rig: i7 13700f rtx 3060 12gb asus z790 H gaming 32gb 5200 DDR5 Crucial SSD 500gb (system W11) 2 1tb nvme 820 sticks MSI A750f psu MSI gungnir 100d case Asus 4k 28" monitor Includes [Win11, Office '21, antivirus, kb, mouse, speakers, headset] Total: roughly $2,200 (2,221 usd)

@chriscollins550

Жыл бұрын

Double that price in Europe on that rig.

@okami9039

Жыл бұрын

2.2k for a 3060 build....?

@sirajkhan-bx5zl

Жыл бұрын

Super expensive.

@chriscollins550

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is. I could not afford that. My house rent is almost that every month.

@jamdc2000

Жыл бұрын

@@chriscollins550 I work from home, I saved money for 5 years to buy that rig, still have my previous build, it was an i5 4570 that i build myself in 2013 with a gtx1650 bought in 2020 on sale

Not mention best games are exclusive at least 2-3 years.

@rahulpandey9472

Жыл бұрын

I mean yea like 10-15 games in a span of 7 years that launches either way on pc.

@leanlifter1

9 ай бұрын

They all come to PC

Did anyone else notice that you went with an ATX motherboard, but a Micro-ATX case? That motherboard won't fit in that case......

Oh i was hoping for a side by side comparison

Having to pay to play with people is the deal breaker for me I'll build a PC over getting a PS5 or Xbox any day

@j0nnyism

5 ай бұрын

Yea pc is great but I have a ps5 for the exclusives and timed releases. Having both makes the Xbox unnecessary

For a gpu you can get a better one at a lesser price like the rx 6700xt

@bobbyharris2270

9 ай бұрын

In the pc world if you got an amd card you are just a laughing stock to the ones with nvidia cards

@Adept_Austin

9 ай бұрын

​@@bobbyharris2270Are you part of the "PC world"? Because I guarantee you that no one is laughing at you if you have an AMD card. At the budget and mid-range, they're very compelling with better performance per dollar and usually more VRAM. At the high end, is where Nvidia shines since they really do have the best of the best if you've got the dough to spend.

@bobbyharris2270

9 ай бұрын

@@Adept_Austin my bad for saying it like that but I do run into those kind of people do that kind of stuff to start drama. I do agree with you on that but the gap is closing in on the 4090 I just hate when people down play things they don’t understand so they choose to be toxic. I ain’t no fanboy of either company I just go for what’s best for my wallet

You need to add labour and shipping of various parts to your pricing!

On the one hand the PS is already all together and ready to go but upgrading is limited but on the other hand you can keep upgrading a PC as needed as long as the motherboard supports it all and so on so it's like damned if you do and damned if you don't lol

Gotta love how the subscription fee to play online is completely ignored in the price comparison.

@Blackfatrat

9 ай бұрын

yeah exactly. And price of games too....

Got a second hand gaming setup of total 420 usd during 2019.. still the latest games run well,providing me an avg of 60fps on big titles..

@reisshep

9 ай бұрын

@lonewolf_09 Exactly that. You buy the latest and greatest at first, and while it's a big upfront cost it becames cheaper down the line. But nowhere near as cheap as spending $500 and playing for 6-7 years straight.

@leanlifter1

9 ай бұрын

​​@@reisshepThe PS5 will be stuck on 30fps with stutters and the PC can just be upgraded to the PS5 pro specs and beyond and continue to game at 60+fps always. Now with the PS5 it's just an ewaste plastic box.

@reisshep

9 ай бұрын

@@leanlifter1 Your old PC components are also e-waste? And you change them more often? I have 3 GPUs under my bed just being e-waste because they're not up to par, and they're bought like a year or two apart each (780 Ti, 980 Ti, 1080 Ti). There was no way neither of those would last me through the entire generation with the exception of 1080 Ti, but it's not an RT capable card so I have no use for it. The point is that I paid well over $2k for my PC (tower only, without any monitors or peripherals) only to have it be outdated quickly. I played Hogwarts Legacy at 30fps on 1080p with DLSS turned on. I couldn't reach 60fps.

@leanlifter1

9 ай бұрын

@@reisshep They can be reused. The consoles are just plastic ewaste products for people to lazy to take the time to learn how to properly configure a computer for the best quality and performance that consoles can never achieve because they are controlled obsolete and locked down proprietary ewaste from launch day. Heck you can even use K/M on consoles lol.

@reisshep

9 ай бұрын

@@leanlifter1 By that logic I can also use my PS5 to play older disk based games when it becomes obsolete. Not everyone can afford a PC and not everyone wants to have a dedicated space in their home for a gaming PC.

Ryzen 5600x comes with the same cooler and can be got for the same price now. That Motherboard does not support the speeds you claim as it only a PCIe Gen3 M.2 not Gen 4. You could have got the Gigabyte B550m which has PCIe Gen4 M.2 for a lower price

Does that B450 even support the 980 Pro??

That’s the thing, when developing for a single piece of hardware that doesn’t change, you really don’t need to have a shit ton of power in a system. Also, developers have pointed out how good it feels to develop games for it, thanks to the resources Sony provides.

@aaron4757

9 ай бұрын

Regardless the PS5 is very powerful though

@phant0m_633

9 ай бұрын

@@aaron4757 not really though, like a 6700 xt which is 300 dollar’s EASILY beats both next gen consoles in terms of raw power. But optimization of games and the resources Sony provides, make the games run like they are on a 6700xt if that makes sense

@adamstilwell4209

9 ай бұрын

Many developers have also stated they prefer making games for Sony. They said when they make games for Microsoft they have to make it compatible with the S, the X, and pc simultaneously which can sometimes hinder the games optimal performance options and slow down production.

@phant0m_633

9 ай бұрын

@@adamstilwell4209 yes.

@balloonb0y677

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@phant0m_633doesn’t matter if you make a pc with the same specs or better than the ps5. Technically the ps5 is capable of out performing the best pc out in the market right now Why? Because PCs are held back by previous generation hardware. Nobody remembers this but both the series x and ps5 have revolutionary architecture that surpasses PCs. What is this architecture? The architecture is the way every component connects to each other, that being: gpu, cpu, ssd, and ram. Remember when mother boards didn’t affect fps? Well guess what, now they are affecting the entire generation of computers. The positive side is that with pcie gen 5, motherboards are beginning to catch up to console architecture. But it currently won’t make a difference because games companies aren’t making games using the new architecture even for consoles. Have you noticed that games haven’t graphically changed all that much and literally a SINGLE INDIE GAME DEV can make a game that looks 10 times better than a AAA game. It’s because big companies are just making games to grab people money, they aren’t focused on make it good games like they used to.

My man said match the ps5 then gets a 4060 ti 🤦🏻‍♂️ doesn’t matter how bad the game it optimised that way way overkill , a 2070 would be more like it .

@Spartan_83

9 ай бұрын

They had so much wrong with this build lol and AMD would have been a better cheaper option.

@lemonshark7280

9 ай бұрын

​@Spartan_83 6700xt 😎

i wish after the parts list you built the pc and them compared performance with multiple games on the PS5 and PC. I feel like with a 4060 the PC will out perform the PS5. It does cost more but then there is so much more use you could get out of a computer for other things so maybe the few hundred more dollars is worth it??

This build isnt the PS5. The PS5 is more of Ryzen 3700X + RX 6700 but instead of 12 GB of VRAM, pretend it's 16GB since consoles have unified memory while PCs have video memory and system memory separate.