Wow, shockingly good comparison that isn't afraid to delve into the sound quality. Great video.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, @JP Winters. We appreciate your support! ***Marcello TSAV

I find it interesting why Marantz decided to implement Class D amplification on the Model 30 knowing that it was designed and intended primarily for vinyl enthusiast. A class AB would have given it a warmer, richer and more analogue sound.

You absolutely crushed this review! Great point on the companion product for the 40n. My 40n will soon arrive in the mail and drive my JBL 4309s

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you @Joaquin Barreto !! It means a lot to us to receive this kind of feedback and support. We appreciate you! ***Marcello TSAV

How do these compare for music with a cinema 50 ? Is it a big drop in quality ? For me, the AV receiver could do two birds with one stone. Thanks

Great review, you did exactly what I have been after, and gave the direct comparisons between the two amps in an A/B side by side. It's really annoying Marantz didn't put HDMI eARC on the Model 30, as this is my preferred amp, but it's not a deal breaker.

@pinkypoohable

7 ай бұрын

Model 30 is designed as an analogue amplifier. It's for guys spinning vinyls and cds. Model 40 N or Stereo 70 S is a better option if you want HDMI Arc function.

Excellent comparison. They both sound like good units, but I’m sure I’d likely prefer the 40n based on my preferences. Thanks for the thorough comparison!

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Christopher!! I think you would like the 40n better as well. Appreciate you! ***Marcello TSAV

If i have the Cinema 40 which one would make more sense? I would guess the Model 30? Both have an HT bypass but i wouldnt need the streaming ability of the 40n as far as i see it.

Wow, very precise, informative and fully described the differences and how associated equipment maybe a better match for each unit. Not that I am in the market for another unit. The 40N seems like a better match for my CW IV. My CW IV is currently driven by SET 8W, Denafrips Pontus II and the Blue Node 2i. Would the 40N has the option to bypass the internal DAC? or it would be better to leave the Pontus II out of the equation to obtain less analytically sounding with the 40N internal DAC? Thanks.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 жыл бұрын

Hello @Slowestrider I think the only way to know is of you try it. You may be perfectly happy with the 40n’s internal Dac or you may want more depending on your mood and music you are listening too. It's always nice to have options. ***Marcello TSAV

Bought a model 30 based on other rave reviews, now looking back at to your summary of the two amps, your review is extremely accurate! Thanks for sharing, now, I have to reorder a model 40, shame on me did not listen. It is easier to make 40 brighter but it harder to make the 30 warmer without losing transparency.

@griffincui

Жыл бұрын

BTW, violin sound pretty harsh with the 30 Vs. my 845 tube amp

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

Thanks @Griff appreciate you!

Thoughts on model 40n vs Hegel h190 vs anthem STR integrated to drive a pair of magnepan 1.7i ? The Maggie’s are rated at 4 ohm but do dip to 2.8ohms and like damping factor and current over pure watts.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

Hey @Ace of Spades I haven’t compared them unfortunately. Sorry buddy

Great in depth review! Thank you! I have the Model 30 set and you are absolutely right. I feel it lack bass. I was wondering how you connected the REL subs to the Model 30 amp?

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! You hook it up through REL's High Level Connection. REL high level connection means that you’re actually taking the output signal from the same amplifier terminals that feed your main loudspeakers and you’re feeding that forward into the REL sub so you are time aligned. Here is a link to the high end cable thesourceav.com/products/rel-bassline-blue, but when you buy a REL sub it will include the basic cable which can get you started. @SSS

@christopherfarrall

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t you also use the pre-outs to connect to a sub?

Thank you! - I think your assessment of the Model 30 is bang on. I use slightly rolled-off Elac Uni-Fi UF5 towers and Dirac room correction which solved many of the 'bright' issues you discussed. Leaving me with all the goodness the Model 30 has to offer. Also using the Topping D90SE DAC which is fairly analytical giving amazing detail and sound-stage with layering\separation... I know what you mean about modern music vs jazz, acoustic, etc. Thankfully the later is my general preference... Once again thank you for making this video! :)

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you @Randy Levine we appreciate your kind words and support!!! ***Marcello TSAV

@GamerWordDotNet

Жыл бұрын

Spending more money on your amp/DAC/whatever than your speakers is bonkers. You've been grifted bro.

@Osuna..

3 ай бұрын

​@@GamerWordDotNeteso se llama envidia amigo.

With the model 30 his do you use a sub? Can you change the crossover point to integrated the sub?

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 жыл бұрын

I was using two Dual Rel Subwoofers with the Model 30 thesourceav.com/products/rel-t-9x you can set the crossover manually by ear via the back of the subwoofer based on the the speakers you are using and your room. It's actually quite easy and I find no need for any DSP once you get the hang of it. @charles king

Really wonderful presentation. Can you give me some advice, I'm not sure whether to buy this Yamaha amplifier AS 1200. or the Marantz 30 amplifier. The price in Serbia is similar. It seems to me that the Yamaha has a more powerful transformer and many more components inside, while the Marantz is stronger for 10 Watts. Your advice would be very useful to me, greetings.

Hi, my primary required best sound quality in CD, which should I select in between 30 & 40n

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

That’s really up to you and the sonic signature you are looking for. I would demo both locally if possible.

Get the Model 30 and add the Rose 150B or the Atoll ST300 Signature as digital (hi-res) source player and you are good to go... Furthermore, the damping factor is 1'000 (!) and power is 2 x 283 watts @4 ohms as tested by the German Stereo magazine - enough to drive / control demanding speakers.

Great review, I was watching as I currently have the Marantz 7000n and want to connect two subwoofers, I noticed you have two, how did you connect the two Rel subwoofers to the model 30?

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

@Adam Music Google REL High level connection it is really easy and awesome. Keeps the timing in line with your speakers and amplifier.

@briancampbell7712

Жыл бұрын

I'm using a single Rel T7x and I tried hooking it up to the 40n both ways...I much more prefer the sub out and using the built in low pass sub filter output...When I used high level connection coming off the RL outputs...it integrates well but seemed to take away power from my speakers

Will model 40n be a good match for JBL L82 speakers? Or should I look something like Audio Research i/50 tube amp? Thanks

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

We are not a JBL Dealer but based on the specs I pulled up online the 40n should have enough power to drive your JBL sensitivity: 88 dB, power handling: 25-125 watts RMS, impedance: 8 ohms depending on your distance to the speakers and room. The I/50 would also likely fall in the range as well but again will depend on your room and distance to the speakers. Here are the specs on the 40n: 70 watts x 2 channels into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.02% THD, 100 watts x 2 channels into 4 ohms. The I/50 is 50watts x2.

@otiv3554

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSourceAVDesignGroup Thanks for info sir :)

Excellent review ! I really feel like the Model 40n will better fit my needs. What would be the best match between the Klipsch RP-8000f / KEF Q750 / Focal Chora 826 / Heco Aurora 700 ? Thanks a lot and keep up the great work.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you @RVltn we appreciate your support! ***Marcello TSAV

Hi. I am looking for a network streamer that also works as a preamp / headphone amp. I'd like to know the difference between sacd 30n and model 40n. Thanks a lot and nice review.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

Would love to do that video! Message our online store website and request that video! ***Marcello TSAV @Tommy Chan

With b&w 703s3....model 30 or 40n???

I was torn between these 2 but chose 40n for the ability to stream on Spotify. More future proof.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

I actually prefer the sound of the 40n vs the 30 in my room. Marcello TSAV

Thanks for the review... a lot of info in 15 min...I have the model 40n...I like the class B amplifier...Sometimes I wish I had more power for tighter grip on my Dali rubicon 2 speakers...so the model 30 sadc makes a big difference Vs the model 40n? I didn't realize marantz model 30 was there flagship over the model 40n? I'm not a big fan of class D Amps so I'm guessing my model 40 has better overall sound quality? Although I'd love the extra wattage and hope the future replacement to the model 40n has a higher power output...I'd love to here the difference of the two...please tell me why one would need a DAC with these when it's already built in?

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

Hi, @Brian Campbell the Model 30 Integrated Amplifier has no DAC and is designed to be paired with the Model 30n Steaming SACD Player from Marantz, so it will need a DAC unless you are just listening to CD or Vinyl. Like you I preferred the sound of the 40n, which does have the built-in DAC and streaming capability, and bought it for one of my listening rooms at home.

@briancampbell7712

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSourceAVDesignGroup hey...tell me something honestly please...do you like the any of the Lyngdorf integrated amps sound better than the Marantz model 40n ?

i really preferred the sound of the 40 over the 30 BUT my polk 4 ohm speakers would have to go on a fast . 4 ohm polks are very hungry speakers . they don't come alive with weaker amps so i took the plunge . i'm not disappointed but there is a lack of depth and fullness in the 30 which is not resolved at higher volumes . fortunately every thing else in the sound and looks is enough to make me keep the 30 for a long time . normally i don't care what an amp looks like but the brilliant silver front is a work of art and a joy to look at even when it's turned off. Maybe a sub at some point ?

Great points and review! Thanks!!!

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, @Griff glad you enjoyed it!

I just bought a Cinema 30 and wondering whether I should add a 40n for better stereo music. Would the sound of 40n be much better than a Cinema 30 in pure direct mode. I understand an integrated AMP should always works better than an AV AMP. But model 40n also has HDMI inputs….

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 ай бұрын

Hey, I haven't reviewed the Cinema 30 yet so I can't give you a solid answer on that. Maybe give Wayne or Jason a call at the store on Tuesday.

Your content is amazing. Keep up and in a year or two you be among most popular audio KZreadrs. Currently I'm looking for an amplifier upgrade and can't decide between model 40n (I can get it with 30% discount) and famous chi-fi willsenton R8 tube amp. I'm using B&W 703 S2 loudspeakers. Any thoughts?

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

@Armands Eglitis thanks for your support! This is Marcello from TSAV, I personally own the 40n and love it! I also owned the Wilsenton R8 for a time but ended up selling it off actually to buy the 40n. I haven’t been disappointed with that choice. I do love tube amps too though and have a ARC I/50 which is better than the R8 in just about every way for my preferences. Not sure about the synergy with your speakers but it sounds like you can get a great deal on the 40n and it’s worth giving it a shot imo. Hope that helps!

@briancampbell7712

Жыл бұрын

The Dali Rubicon 2 pair quite well with my 40n

Guys I need some advice, hint6, this marantz or nad399? I was told by a retailer that sells all three the nad399 sounds the best..... so happy I saw this vid, guys from this channel, I am buying soon, please direct my on my choice.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

2 жыл бұрын

@78 Sound wish I could help, but I haven’t heard the NAD399 and we don’t sell them. I have personally owned NAD products in the past and found them to be decent but only when using Dirac with them. Otherwise they didn’t sound as good as similarly priced products. This is my personal opinion, not representative of TSAV. -****marcello

Hi, great review of the 2 Marantz Amplifier. Very educational and insightful. Keep it up! Just need your insights, which of the 2 amplifiers pairs well with Focal Kanta no. 1? Which of the 2 can slightly tone down the high frequency and which of the 2 can drive the Focal Kant no. 1 at Low Level Volume? Thank you.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

11 ай бұрын

Hi @ralphlee4110 I didn't get to listen to them with your Focal Kanta no. 1 however if you are looking for the integrated amplifier between these two that may slightly tone down the higher frequencies the 40n sounds warmer and more organic than the 30, whereas the the 30 sounds more analytical, drier and detailed. Based on your speakers efficiency and specs either amplifier should be able to drive your speakers with the Model 30 having more power. I hope that helps!

@ralphlee4110

11 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for providing me your insights.

Marantz model 30 or a Yamaha as1200 to drive some Wharfedale Lintons……thoughts anybody?

The Dali Rubicon 2 pair quite well with the model 40n...after having tried so many different speakers😂

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, good to hear.

You forgot to say that the model 40N has a HDMI Arc input that the model 30 doesn't have. So for you guys that want to plug in your TV for audio, the model 40N is the way to go.

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

We also created a full video on the 40n that mentions all the details kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKSGldBxppC1kZM.html

I actually ordered the 30 only to find out there is no streaming ability built in so im exchanging it for the 40n.

@youssefhamidi8152

11 ай бұрын

Finally got the 40n yesterday and wow!! What an incredible difference it has made in my setup. It truly is a work of art both in design and sound. I have it hooked up to my Paradigm Founders 100f and it blows the sr 5014 and the Anthem mrx540 out of the water.

good explanation, I've had the 40n for 2 years and it has kept all the speakers alive without any problem. dynaudio Emit50. Monitor 500g silver, focal chora, Boston, Elipson 24F. it has a good reserve of power to make the music lively and pleasant. The sound is warm in color, but it has details. I used a Furutech TCS-31 power cable and Viard HD 2.5mm audio cables. the low mid best in this configuration, I always use it in « Pure direct" on the other hand I don't see any difference with the value of "Lock range" selection, I put it in Medium on HDMI ARC and listen to music streaming. can you say more? Marantz's explanations are too short on this subject and confusing. THANKS !

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Osuna..

9 күн бұрын

Que tal funciona el Marantz 40n con las Monitor audio silver 500 7g?. Lo pregunto por los 70 watios a 8 omhs y los 80 a 200 que recomienda MA. Estoy valorando la compra de los MA 500 7G.

@NikkoGTI14

9 күн бұрын

@@Osuna.. no power problem with the 500 7g , drive the amp volume to 50% of the power indicator on the button. it will still have a margin before saturation problems. (50% of the 40n fills a 60m2 room with extended sound volume). you will need good quality music so as not to amplify the faults. on the other hand I find that the monitor range sounds poor in the low mid range. the Elipson 24F with the 40n give a warm and very balanced sound for my personal preference

@Osuna..

7 күн бұрын

Muchas gracias por la información. Ahora mismo tengo el Marantz 40n con las whaferdale evo 4.3 y suenan muy bien la verdad y estoy muy contento con ellas y para mí salón de 22 m2 es perfecto. También tengo conectado un subwoofer Monitor audio silver W12 y suena espectacular en música y películas. Solo que me gustan las MA silver 500. Pero tengo dudas sobre si vender las whaferdale. No sé si habrás tenido la oportunidad de probar Marantz y whaferdale pero suenan increíbles en conjunto.

@Osuna..

7 күн бұрын

Tengo el Marantz 40n hace 5 meses y suena espectacular en todo los términos. La aplicación HEOS a mejorado bastante, ahora está tidal con música de alta calidad. Estuve a punto de venderlo por el JBL SA 750, pero no quiero desacerme de el.

I own the model 40n...it's nice but not capturing my attention anymore, weak on power output...I would love to hear the 3 brands for comparison Advane Paris Myconnect 250 ....Anthem AVM 90 ... and Vincent SV-700

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

@Brian Campbell the 40n has great power output as long as it's matched with appropriate speakers. If you are looking for more powerful options the Model 30 from Marantz has more power or we also have McIntosh amps for loads of power and current. We don't carry those other brands you mentioned.

@Osuna..

9 күн бұрын

​@@TheSourceAVDesignGroupPor ejemplo con unos Monitor audio silver 7g?, te recomienda un amplificador de 80 a 200 watios.

They release a CD60 for the 40n but not read SACD so is very silly

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

Жыл бұрын

@John Smith I was hoping that it would be able to read SACD too, however the model 30n remains a terrific SACD option with a different flavor DAC too to change things up a bit thesourceav.com/products/marantz-sacd-30n-silver-gold

Its a shame both these amps look so ugly!

@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

5 ай бұрын

lol beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

@EdBenji

5 ай бұрын

@@TheSourceAVDesignGroup

@spudpud-T67

4 ай бұрын

Would you have prefered the Macintosh look, lol