She made the mistake of saying Hurem would die after watching her children die, she didn't realize Suliman's was hearing her as she reveals her true face.

To a certain point, this is actually fairly accurate to what would be occuring behind the scenes if the sultan fell seriously ill. It even makes sense that Hafsa would wish to keep Hürrem's children safe as, currently, Mustafa has no sons and therefore no heir but them.

Mahidevran says only because of one mistake, you're the most victim. first you beat Hürrem black and blue, then you poison Hürrem's food, your Gülşah tries to stab Hürrem. You poisoned everyone's minds to hate Hürrem and always said Hürrem hurt you

@choysstory6890

Жыл бұрын

Then mahidevran poisened hurrem's first son Mehmet

@ankina86

Жыл бұрын

Suleiman would forgive Mahidevran if he would love her, but he didn't.

@Redluna32

Жыл бұрын

@@ankina86 Suleiman did love her, even if perhaps the strength of such emotions were fading, but, after her actions, informed her that she had "killed" their love through doing such things. A claim that, given how the poison incident could have taken out himself and his unborn son, I can't entirely blame him for.

@sayedulislamshohag1262

Жыл бұрын

It seems like Huream to,,, when others girls close to Suleiman , what did Hurram?? Hurram kill all of them one by one

@DimSK.

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you said it all dear friend. Fully agreed!

4:32 Mahidevran had the best son and she managed to poison his mind to the point that he was killed by his own father, such an awful mother. The only reason Mehmet was Suleiman's favourite is because Hurrem raised him right. If Mustafa had been raised by Hurrem he would DEFINITELY be the next sultan

@SphireSphire

2 ай бұрын

So what about mahi feelings huh suleman have to face his consequences but he once again escape

@cisio64123

Ай бұрын

@@SphireSphire Her feelings and refusal to put them aside to protect her son got him killed so who really got the unfair share of the consequences ? She had a right to her feelings but she should have been wise enough to protect her son by NOT making him take part in those feelings and making him bitter towards his father thus poisoning that relationship to the point that Suleiman felt so threatened by him that he felt no choice but to kill him. Notice Hurrem was absolutely resolute that her children always respect their father and never ever dare start any disagreement with him no matter what ..even on her behalf . She by comparison even firmly told off her daughter Mihrimah over her angry on her mother's behalf " her or me ! " ultimatum to her father which potentially risked that relationship over his relationship with Firuze. . The point is Hurrem protected her children by not giving them any reason or allowing them to even think about falling out with their father.

@SphireSphire

Ай бұрын

@@cisio64123 why hurrem made her children poisoning when suleman is a good fortune he never mistreat her imagine if hurrem were at a place of mahi so what he did she is a snake who engulf everyone And hurrem is the one who always poison suleman head against mahi and mustafa his lies make him die don't you see it 🙄

It is there where Ibrahim realized Mahidevils true intentions. Yet a seed of wanting more was planted inside him since that day.

Mahidevran never had the class, loyalty and respect to be compared to Hurrem, just as in the series also in the real history. Filled with the fantasy of having her son as the crown prince, and desperately waiting for the moment to kill Hurrem and her children without reason. Hurrem had to survive, that’s why i never judge her actions. Mahidevran always having the mentality to grow hate on her son towards his siblings, while Hurrem teached her children to treat the big brother with respect. Mahidevran got what she deserved in the end, karma is real.

@Susweca5569

3 ай бұрын

Hurrem was a survivor, indeed. Imagine going from a captured slave girl to the beloved of the sultan of the Ottoman Empire at its height with the power that came with that. That would be a profound historical accomplishment for anyone and even more so because Hurrem was a woman.

Mahidevran here proves that whatever happens to her, she will deserve it

@gordanaterzic4121

11 ай бұрын

Nope Hurrdevil has

@DimSK.

11 ай бұрын

@@gordanaterzic4121 nop mahidevil only

14:00 Ibrahim might be angry at Mahidevran's words, but she was actually right. If Suleiman had died then, Ibrahim and Mustafa might have survived after all and they could have easily destroyed their enemies. Too bad for her that she was most of the time too blinded by her love for Suleiman and her rage for Hurrem, because this scene shows that as soon as she sets her feelings aside and focus on her son, she can be quite cunning and lucid.

For anyone still defending Mahidevran and condemning Hurrem, watch this clip again. When Suleyman was dying, Hurrem was only thinking of him and her children's safety. She wasn't plotting to get rid of Mustafa or finding a way to get Mehmed on the throne. She was living only for the love of her family and was prepared to die with them rather than live one day without them. Meanwhile, Mahidevran didn't waste a single second trying to seize power and exert control over the empire, even going over her son's head. She again dismissed all of her murder attempts as "a single mistake" that "ruined her life." Nothing was ever her fault. She was always the victim. She took zero accountability. In other words, she was a professional gaslighter. She even lied to her son, who she claimed was the only thing she was fighting for. In reality, Mustafa was always just a tool for her to get power. A one-way ticket to the top even though she wanted for nothing. If she had given birth to a daughter instead, she would have discarded her. Mahidevran bankrupted the harem, treated her servants like garbage, and tried to murder anyone who she thought was treading on her authority. And unlike Hurrem, she never suffered any consequences for her actions. The lowest she ever went was looking into Hurrem's eyes with a sick, satisfied smile as she promised that she would slowly torture Hurrem by murdering her children right in front of her. She took delight at the thought of killing innocent children, knowing it would break her son's heart and she'd lose him forever...and she didn't care one bit. That is the sign of a born narcissist, sociopath, and egomaniac.

To be honest i am surprised that Mustafa expected his mother to still love Suleiman

@Redluna32

Жыл бұрын

I mean, to a point, it depicts the unfortunate disconnect that could occur between those that were the victims of the system and those that had had it normalized, but I don't think the show intends for that.

@sara.svathi

Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn’t he… she keeps crying that sulaiman ignires when she loves him so much… so she should be thinking of his recovery and not about the the thronr

@Redluna32

Жыл бұрын

@@sara.svathi Eh, while I'm not about to claim that she did it with grace (murdering Hürrem's children when no other heirs exist is a horrible strategic move), how Mahidevran moves to secure her son's ascendancy in case the worst happens is 100% realistic and understandable for that time period.

@DimSK.

Жыл бұрын

Lol she talked behind his back and announced herself as valide sultan, I mean that's more than 'mustafa expected his mother to still love suleiman' I don't think that's what Mustafa expected, he expects mahidevran to be loyal to him and that's all.

@lovelydove8770

11 ай бұрын

When Mustafa goes to Sanjak, Mahidevran expected Fatma to be okay with Mustafa sleeping with his harem. When she in fact was not okay with Hurrem and the Sultan. She's a hypocrite and so is her son!!!

I can't believe Mahidevran wasn't executed after all this

@typhoon2minerva

6 ай бұрын

Well her greatest suffering was to live longer in poverty and destitute full of heartbreak and pain but good thing Sultan Selim 2 helped her in the end and elevate her status.

The reason Mustafa got killed is Mahidevran. It was obv that she was after the throne and everyone saw it a couple of times. she even tried to get into his sons mind so ofc Suleyman would think that Mustafa is after his throne. she is the reason of her own sons death by acting amateur and stupid

Fatma really predicted her own future demise with that " rope around her neck " comment against Hürrem.

@zainabbibi

4 ай бұрын

I hate her

That's mahidevils real face. Finally hafsa saw it too

While suleiman in death bed...literally mahi devil is the only person walking around with joy& smile on her face...

Mustafa is so innocent, he did not deserve to be Mahidevran's son

All mahis fans now shld realise that this devil never truly loved suleiman..she was only after throne& power& wealth..but she always cried foul saying she didnt get his love Love is a 2 way path!! Ibrahim shows different faces to different ppl

Mahidevran celebrated too early. 😅

Dude like after this how can Valide, Hatice, Gulfem Ibrahim or anyone can side with Mahidevran?? Wtf the show plot about this doesn't make any sense. She was literally flawed. Her selfishness was unmatched.

21:26 when opposite happens to then she started crying wow killing hurrem first son is ok but when her son die she went Black &blue

This is ridiculous, Mahidebran tries to murder Hurrem and her unborn child. The son of the sultan. Then she tries to act like the Valide sultana and she doesn’t get executed what happens to whoever does harm to royal member will be executed. Time after time they leave her with no punishment. But Hurrem is falsely accused of murder and also al,ost. murdered many times and she is the one who gets punished severely and thrown out of the castle.

@micheleford4282

Ай бұрын

she has plot armor lol

That's truly justice : "you won't die until you see the deaths of your children" And in the end, she's the one who won't die until she saw the death of her child and grandchild. I would have LOVED that somebody repeated her what she said that day after Mustafa's death !

His mother got him killed

Both women knew that Sultan is having a polygamous relationship. They accepted it. But still wanted him entirely.

The reason Hurrem sultan was successful was because she knew when to differentiate are roles She knew when to be a wife, a mother and a friend

When all is said and done, one of the reasons the Sultan is faithful to Hurrem was because she was the only 1 who was truly faithful to him in terms of absolute loyalty and didn't scheme behind his back to gain power.

21: 14 Mahidevran true colours. ( Hurrem thougt: praemonitus- praemunitus!)

I think Suleiman was the biggest traitor to Ottoman Empire..... Mustafa his son who love him most and during his life he doesn't even want to think about his father death .... Mustafa doesn't even think to hurt his siblings and hurrem ... But very pity Suleiman himself killed his own son who love him most....and today's hurrem and his children make a very deadly plan to kill Prince Mustafa except beyazid and chiangir... So sad for Mustafa he always have a love for his siblings... But all these make plan to kill him... May you rest in peace Prince Mustafa 😢

@shreelekhapujala7643

Жыл бұрын

the show did not show a few things , mustafa really comitted the treason and wanted to overthrow the king in the reality. they are royal family not an ordinary household where the relations are just power based and no love between members. sons killed their fathers for the throwns. by this we can understand the relations in westren and middle eastren rulers. so, don't think it in today ordinary family POV but in the medivial time POV

Mahidevaran 's Pain made her evil .Hurrem was evil too..She too killed concubine in order to Find furize,she killed isabella the princess..

@DimSK.

Жыл бұрын

Isabella is alive lol she sent her back

@hurremsultannss

Жыл бұрын

I would call Hürrem and Mahidevran both morally grey.

@shefalig93

Жыл бұрын

Hurrem escaped Isabella via sea route, back to her country. Suleiman knew about this, hence Hurrem wasn't punished. Hurrem offered Isa help to escape from Istanbul, Isa refused as she wanted to be Ottoman Queen. So Hurrem was going to get Isa infected with plague. But Ibrahim sent Isa poison through Nigar, so Suleiman will kill/exile Hurrem for murder. But, only Isabella's servant died. This made Isa afraid of harem politics enough to take Hurrem's help to escape. Very brief scenes, so easy to miss.

@user-wc3bc1go4g

4 ай бұрын

@@shefalig93True but Isabella did try to escape she didn’t refuse

What episode is this?

mahidevran deserved to die as a slave in this series. she'a done so many unspeakable things and yet she always tried to play the victim. hypocrite

accurately the ottomans' law said. when a prince become a sultan he suppose to ki ll all his brothers and once a sultan killed 19 brothers so in this series it is not said like that they love mustafa and try to defend but historically can't blame any side either hurrem lose all her kids or mustafa ana mahdivran also mahidvran is suspected to kill 2 of Soliman kids before mustafa called mahmoud and murad one of them is ulfat khadija's friend as well as mehmet the son of hurrem surprisingly all die the same way chickenpox and mainly suliman blame them for that

Episode??

6:18 das hat Hurrem auch immer gewusst.

Poor Fatma if she only had a small idea of her fate.

Nothing more pathetic than a bitter person who can't get over the fact that the person they love doesn't love them. Hurrem won in the end over ALL of her adversaries because the Sultan's love was for her alone.

Like hurrem never tried for the throne she only likes Suleiman thats her only good quality but when it comes to power she'll do anything like the rest

@SathyaShyam

11 ай бұрын

She want power only to save her kids

@gordanaterzic4121

11 ай бұрын

Nope Hurrdevil never loved Suleiman she only loved the power

@luciaperdue5687

10 ай бұрын

@aeroTnz Hurrem only wanted Suliman on the Throne. In her eyes only him and no one else as long as she lived. She got her wish she died and Suliman was still the Ruler of Ottoman Empire.

Mahidevran actress is quite beautiful, her facial structure holds the elegance and class !

Mahidevran's feeling I really understand.....she is right in this episode...

@micheleford4282

Ай бұрын

wow that moral compass is wonky reset that thing

I don’t know how people are still angry at Hurrem for Mustafa death, she wanted to dismiss him as heir and she knew that he may very well executed but for a good reason: Mahidevran : 21:09

It's not mahidevran's fault to think like that after what Suleiman had done to mahidevran it's natural that mahidevran have no love for Sultan.... She is not guilty anyway mahidevran was humiliated Infront of everyone due to Suleiman ignorance towards her.... From the very first day hurrem tried and even fight to gain power and wealth then what's wrong if mahidevran wishes for a bright life with her son although she is not reason of Suleiman's illness but only Suleiman is the only reason of mahidevran's sorrows in her whole life ... She had right to dream about power and above all she never tried to kill Suleiman or make him ill she is just thinking about the consequences if ALLAH's will occur and as a mother she have right to think like that as other mothers do ... There is only hurrem who is greedy witch

@micheleford4282

Ай бұрын

its rediculous for her to think like that she is a slave in a harem. in harem's woman have to share and jealousy when you have been in the harem for that many years to the point you try to kill another lady in the harem or her children is stupid. i dont know how she expected him to only want her his job was to rule the empire and have lots of babies with he concubines.

The reason i loved mahidevran for she had pride hurrem lacked she put her son befor sultan as any mother will do Why would she live or respect sultan who abused her no need to but her son come first as she should wished he heared from ge would have lived her wordsxwere so true his do called beothers ended him he must have did it first to secure his place How true mahidevran was in this scene

@hurremsultannss

Жыл бұрын

Both women were fighting fpr their children. You only say Hürrem 'had no pride' because you hate her

@DimSK.

Жыл бұрын

What pride? She announced herself valide sultan while Suleiman is there and so are all the princes and hafsa. Everybody is sad, hafsa is sad and she basically tells her 'i rule here I am the valide' like who cares? Don't you see how hard is it for hafsa? Hafsa who always cared for you and Mustafa? Is that how you thank her...

@nwilliams2132

Жыл бұрын

How can you agree with Mahidevran. She made a grave mistake, she openly threatened Hurrem and her children while Suleiman lays in the bed. She constantly throws her son being the oldest in Hurrems face. She’s the reason Mustafa had a target on his back. Not to mention she lies about everything, bullies Hurrem and most of the time she gets away with it. The Sultan is still alive the worse thing Mustafa could’ve done was kill his brothers. Also Mustafa had no sons yet so she would kill the only heirs!?! And what would happen if Suleiman wakes up after his children are killed??

@callmeriri4706

Жыл бұрын

so you love a woman who wants her enemy's young children, INNOCENT CHILDREN, to die?

@Lisakayser617iu

11 ай бұрын

​​@@nwilliams2132that's not a mistake when we see that an ep vefor hurrem poisoned mustafa I agree with mahidevran secure her son it's her right Hurrem bullied mahii buliiad mustafa almost took his life His father did nothinghurrem gitvaway qith everything unlike maHidevran Hurem is the reason of her sons end putting them inftont of mahi as the rightful heirs

Mahidevran became like this because of the pain hurrem is no angel even after becoming empress she did nasty things

@fariyaafroz7608

Жыл бұрын

Suleiman knew that Mahi devran try to kill his son and spouse still hr forgive her. Suleiman want give her one more chance then he find out she tried to kill Gulsha. But, still he didn’t punished her for this. What more you want?

@jessicadarnell4209

10 ай бұрын

Hurrem never once in this entire series claimed to be an angel. Matter of fact when Suliman ask her if she had anything to do with the execution of Mustafa. She said that she herself WAS NOT sinless. That no one in that palace was sinless not EVEN HIMSELF. That over the years she did what she had to just like he did what he had to do. If he wanted something to be this way then she wanted the same because his will was absolute as the ruling Sultan ''the leaves will not fall from trees if you do not want it". She was reminding him as polite and subtle as possible that he gives the ORDER for anything and everything. That NOTHING that can happen WILL happen unless he says so. Even the execution of his own.

@cisio64123

10 ай бұрын

@@jessicadarnell4209 Exactly ! No one especially the Sultan who gives the order is innocent and ALL must play the game if they are to survive. Sultan Ahmed said in the beginning of Magnifcent Centery : Kosem that being a Ottoman prince wasn't the privileged existance it was believed to be as it meant either asending the throne or death. You either end up becoming Sultan and kill your brother or he becomes Sultan and kills you is the awful reality they must live with. Everyone must do as they must and no one is a saint because the very structure of their life in the empire doesn't allow it.

@aeroTnz

6 ай бұрын

@Dreamfyre Yes bish cus she was there first long before HURREM she wanted the best for her son, who can blame her?

I’m completely lost now lol I thought mastafa got killed

@cisio64123

10 ай бұрын

This is before Mustafa is exucuted but it starts the slow slide of his downfall with Sulieman. Sulieman awakes with the knowledge of how power hungry , greedy and vengeful his mother Mahidevran is, thus seeds of doubt about him are placed that begin to sprout. Really this was Mahidevran in effect ending her dream of power and vengence towards Hurrem as Valide Sultan by being unwisely premature about her plans until the time was approprite to act on them as Ibrahim was trying to tell her .

Апрж

You are saying mahidavran is evil for saying this but she knows that the sultan would kill mustafa with no second thought if he posed a tread to his power you are fools always taking the side of a witch

@cisio64123

Ай бұрын

You do realize it was in fact Mahidevran herself who initially put the target on her son's back that lead to his death with her very actions here . She foolishly and inappropriately made no secret of her greed and desire for power in making plans for her son grabbing the throne even before Suleiman is dead thus putting the thought and fear out there that Mustafa could go after the throne and what would happen if he got it. She openly and with relish proclaimed her intent to have Hurrem's children killed before killing her.. so of course Hurrem from that point went on the defensive and protected her children from suffering that fate even if it took killing Mustafa. Suleiman never really trusted Mustafa after that and even had nightmares about Mustafa seizing the throne and killing all of his half siblings including Mihrimah and Hurrem because of this.

@user-ij4vo1yd7m

Ай бұрын

@@cisio64123 she should have killed her and Sulaiman a long time ago to save herself and her child I would have killed her the minute she came to the palace and I could feel my man was bewitched by her not because I love him but for my sons life and my own and I would have killed Sulaiman the minute I found out his loyalty was with Hurrem

Mustafa the unfortunate shezade

Mahi is such a insufferable person I have seen in this show n life

She is reason of mustfa dead 💀 her greed

@hurremsultannss

Жыл бұрын

That's a messed up take.

@Redluna32

Жыл бұрын

​@@hurremsultannss There's literally no proof of it either. Particularly as Mustafa got in more trouble ignoring her good counsel later in life.

@hurremsultannss

Жыл бұрын

@@Redluna32 True. She can't really be held to blame.

@DimSK.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah mahidevran is the reason for that

@nwilliams2132

Жыл бұрын

@@Redluna32 Mahidevran cause doubt between father and son. She caused a rift in their relationship due to jealousy. Mustafa should’ve never picked side between his parents and he did on more than two occasions. Each time it was due to lord told by Mahidevran