I wonder how she would feel about other cultural spaces which UoA has and has always had. Asian community groups (Chinese, Korean, Japanese etc). But it must be the Maoris and PIs dont fund Act or National party so they continue to attack the poor.

Thanks for doing this interview. It would have been good to have a panel with a AU Maori student who can share their experience of being 18-20yo probably away from home for the first time in a large competitive academic university where only 13% of students look and sound like you. I went to AU in the late 80s and we had spaces in the Student Union Buildings B Block run wholly for and by students funded by the compulsory student association fees. Later I worked at various universities and these spaces are slowly disappearing. It’s more difficult to maintain social and cultural support systems on campuses especially when the stress of exams and assignments kicks in. Maybe a contributing factor to the dismal attendance to lectures many unis are experiencing.

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

I agree .... lets hear from the students.

@michaeledgar6118

Ай бұрын

Sometimes racism is a wonderful thing.

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

@@michaeledgar6118 he aha?

Can non-Maori/ Pacifika students sit in these spaces? If they have a friend/s who are M/P could you go sit and study with them in such spaces? for example.

@herereihana7892

Ай бұрын

Im maori and im shore they would welcome you

@JamesSumner-Goodwin

Ай бұрын

@@herereihana7892 That's cool, I'd be kinda unsure if some would be ok with it, so long as I don't get told off :P

@user-oo4zo8yy5u

Ай бұрын

@@herereihana7892 sure, not shore but yes, you're right.

@user-oo4zo8yy5u

Ай бұрын

Yes. It's just a safe space for people who face historical and ongoing discrimination and victimization because of their race. That's all it is, a safe space.

@herereihana7892

Ай бұрын

@@JamesSumner-Goodwin maori are caring welcoming and awesome host if anything they would love u for it

Do Māori & pasifika engage with their education through their stories which they elucidate through their songs? Is it socially acceptable to sing in libraries or easy for them to learn in noisy campus outdoor spaces? Does paying a tuition entail a student access to learning spaces? Is this even an issue? - these are the questions I would ask the lady.

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

Libraries have the QUIET rule. Just saying .... What if they want to share Kai? You can't do that in a Library.

In fairness, the reporter's bias is evident, she couldn't win here. It's a debate rather than interview and not Ta Ao at its best.

@teaowithmoana4758

Ай бұрын

It was most definitely a debate - not a free spiel that doesn't go unchallenged. Dr Parmjeet Parmar was able to share her thoughts and concerns in length.

Why do i get the feeling this guy would have a different opinion if it was a "whites only" space

@Immortal_Maori21

Ай бұрын

It would be different if the sign said brown people only but it didn't. There are white or light skinned Maori and islanders.

@MrFairlane58

Ай бұрын

He would be absolutely outraged.

@antmanatthemoment7233

Ай бұрын

@@Immortal_Maori21 ok, what if the sign said "pakeha only" meaning only those of purely European heritage?

@antmanatthemoment7233

Ай бұрын

@@MrFairlane58 so would I, but the difference between me and him, is that I'm consistent with those principles

@Immortal_Maori21

Ай бұрын

@@antmanatthemoment7233 I'd laugh. I'd also question it because I'd be intensely curious as to why. Not unlike what's been happening with this issue. I would be expecting a serious answer.

I find her confusing. How she responds isn't to the question being asked.

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

Word Salad .... comes from Privilege. Baffle them with Bullshit.

Her position on the matter precludes historical context, cultural identity, education and empowerment, inclusivity, and the supportive environment that those spaces create.

I got a degree at Auck Uni. I've asked to disassociate from them because of their apartheid policies. I've also met with Dr Parmar when she was a Nat MP, and respect her.

Goodness Cameron, give it a rest. The woman explained in the first five minutes. What part of 'lets not separate our people on the basis of race' do you not understand?

Reverse racism 😂😂😂😂 good one Cameron you were really soft on her

@michaeloxlarge4345

Ай бұрын

Reverse racism is just racism

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

Cameron was actually quite Pointed. (y)

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

@@michaeloxlarge4345 yeah,, like the Lady from India, whose culture practises Caste. :/

I agree this is not new, the programme has been around for sometime...

@fl7907

Ай бұрын

Easy target...I guarantee the Pacific & Maori students will invite other students from other cultures to the space.

@fl7907

Ай бұрын

Please note, there are many other spaces that Pacific & Maori students are part of...

@gerhardlutz1941

Ай бұрын

@@fl7907 and some will probably tell them to get out because it is their space and they are not invited :)

What a spoon

It's not isolation from others. It's a cultural safe space for us

@dobbynp

Ай бұрын

tell me how unsafe you are feeling.

@user-oo4zo8yy5u

Ай бұрын

@@dobbynp I went to a cafe in Remuera today. The white people looked angry and repulsed at my presence. I was well dressed and friendly in work uniform. I'm telling you, racism is a disease.

@dustinparr6795

Ай бұрын

Why would you feel the need for a cultural "safe space" when your culture is literally inextricably woven into the very fabric of this country's existence? It's not as if your basic human rights to free speech and freedom of expression have been outlawed, and you can't congregate freely. Any areas which by design create separation, divisiveness, exclusivity on a cultural/ethnic basis simply actively encourage and allow hatred and mistrust to flourish. The powers that be want the world distracted and at each other's throats. Makes the practice of divide and rule much easier. May God Bless You And Yours 🇮🇪🇮🇹✌🏼

@MrFairlane58

Ай бұрын

Safe from what?

@user-oo4zo8yy5u

Ай бұрын

@@MrFairlane58 discrimination, victimization and racism

She is inciting anger, panic and ridicule among her supporter base and it's working

@gerhardlutz1941

Ай бұрын

wrong, she is wright and Cameron is surprisingly stupid not to see that.

@user-oo4zo8yy5u

Ай бұрын

@@gerhardlutz1941 how so?

@rockkid8306

15 күн бұрын

Very small supporter base might I add. It seems like Act is doing everything they can to get themselves kicked out at the next election.

@user-oo4zo8yy5u

15 күн бұрын

@@rockkid8306 all Pakeha agree with them deep down in their lack of hearts. They are all racist colonizers at their core. They don't belong here

Acts gameplan out in the open.

I’ve never found an LGBT 🏳️‍🌈 space when attending higher learning. Do I deserve one because I’m gay and our community has been historically oppressed…? 😂

The general public didn't know about this, nor cared. ACT used it to thrust racial politics into the spotlight, as they are oft to do. I oppose ACT and I definitely oppose ACT pulling bullshit like this.

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

ACT are Neo Liberalists. They want to Privatise everything. Make Aotearoa into a Business .... not a Country. They opposed 3Waters because they want to grab it for themselves. Tangata Whenua are the ones who are standing in the way of their Capitalist evil. :/

No one has excluded other people from 'getting in that space' Parmjeet. Erica said that she herself has been in there. You are race-baiting, when you use words like 'segregation'. Stop playing dumb and stop dumping on tangata whenua :(

@michaeloxlarge4345

Ай бұрын

My mrs was excluded from this area studying with this group and having no other group to belong to she completed her degree alone. Erica is maori, hence why she was allowed in the space. I am also maori by the way but there is no maori only areas on my building site

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

@@michaeloxlarge4345 I don't believe you, unless your 'Mrs' was being belligerent. And no, Erica is not Maori. Stop lying.

@michaeloxlarge4345

Ай бұрын

@AngieSainty fair, there is probably nothing I can do to convince you I'm not lying, but this is the truth 😂 I may be wrong about Eric's but I thought I'd heard her say it in the past

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

@@michaeloxlarge4345 You said Erica is Maori, with all certainty. Why did you do that? Did you not 'do your own research' And I find it hard to believe your 'Mrs' did her degree on her own. Uni is inclusive of students. What did she study?

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

@@michaeloxlarge4345 Are you mixing Erica up with Casey Costello? You shouldn't say things that are not true, just because you 'heard' it from somewhere. Disinformation is the scourge of social media. There is such a thing as 'duty of care'. . :./ ACT is making something out of nothing and yes, I think you are lying about your 'Mrs' not being allowed in that Space. :/ What was her reason for wanting to be in there? Maori would not exclude her for wanting to learn and socialise. It is your word against mine ... and yes, there is no way of proving that you are telling the truth, unless I talked to you and your wife, face to face. You give Anecdotal examples. :/

the space is designed for cultural safety form racist attackers but all people are welcome there on the understanding that the space has requirements of respect and anti-racism.

She's like a broken record! Is she the ACT Party token Indian?

The concept of safe spaces for specific racial or ethnic groups is not inherently racist. Safe spaces are intended to provide support, affirmation, and a sense of belonging for individuals who may face systemic discrimination or marginalization based on their racial or ethnic identity. Furthermore, it's essential to recognize that addressing systemic racism and promoting equity often involves creating spaces and initiatives that acknowledge and address the unique challenges faced by marginalized communities, including indigenous peoples like the Maori. These efforts are part of broader initiatives aimed at creating more just and inclusive societies

Deport

Inclusivity is not precluded by providing safe spaces for Maori people as the spaces do not exclude or segregate others. Instead, they complement broader diversity and inclusion efforts on campus and promote dialogue, understanding, and collaboration across different cultural and ethnic groups.

Does go along with muslim communitity, asain community and pasifica, having their own reps as they want them, this is home, we have one rep per for everyone, go back where they came from if the they want to live to their customs and culture

Do you know anything about our cultures? Practice what you preach lady.

What say does she have for Pasfika and Maori students? Like, is she Maori or Pacific Islander? How does she, an Indian, have a say for the totally opposite minority. What if the sign was a survey or smthing else that wasn’t intentionally racist!? Come on, you aren’t supposed to be in this convo. (Not sexist don’t worry) She says it matters about the thinking of the students. Basically she’s saying that the thinking of the students matter which she’s right about, but her opinion doesn’t matter, and I don’t respect it either. Like does she know what the sign was intended?

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

She wouldn't even be enjoying our beautiful Country, without Te Tiriti. These people need to appreciate the gift that Te Tiriti gave them.

What’s wrong with a little racial segregation - I mean everyone thought it was a great idea in apartheid South Africa and the Jim Crow era of the Southern USA right?

@tukuaogawiki-pasene6626

Ай бұрын

Not even close to the same thing. Your education is showing. I would tell you to look up the points you made, but I know you wont.

@stephenlennon7369

Ай бұрын

BS talk buh

@sally-annward375

Ай бұрын

New Zealand has such a high South african population due to immigration due to apartheid that there are actually more South Africas and Chinese combined then Maori. So shouldnt THAT tell you that kind of segregation isnt welcome here? My parents moved to NZ when pregnant with me just to escape that, you're extremely ignorant.

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

@@sally-annward375 Then you are Tangata Tiriti? Do you appreciate Te Tiriti? I hope so. You are extremely fortunate. Arohamai.

There is so much talking across on each other and not engaging in the points. Heres the issue with race-separated spaces by state sponsored places like universities: - you automatically think "an us and them mentality" . - there is not an equal opportunity for other races to engage in that space by definition. - it validates a racist idea that maori and pasifika can't do anything themselves and need institutions to give them special privileges, which actually stigmatizes the races more (btw im part maori). This just isn't a well thought out idea to morally deal with racial differences full stop. As for the points, the interviewer brought up. We have womens spaces to protect them from men. Like how we have segragated bathrooms. Most guys could care less if a woman came into the mens bathroom, but the same could not be said for the opposite. About lgtb seperated places, i think that's inherently wrong too based on the points before. Gotta be consistent here. Praying spaces aren't based on inalienable characteristics. Instead, they are based on belief systems, so its not an apples to apples comparison. Beliefs are decisions on moral ideas and not based on skin color or sex or sexual orientation. To sum it all up, if you want your own space with people who look like you, dont go asking the taxpayer to sponsor it. Set up private places instead.

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

There are other spaces for cultural identity at Uni .... why are Tangata Whenua and Pacific Islanders being targeted? I ask you that. We live in the Pacific. What country does this Indian born Doctor thinks she lives in?

@cadewishart9104

Ай бұрын

@AngieSainty i hear you, and if there are any spaces, and I mean any, that are separated based on racial reasons, I think that's inherently wrong. White, brown, and every color in between. The reason this has been brought up is because there are many in nz who think this is okay for this to happen if the person comes from a minority background. While there was obvious discrimination in the past against Maori and Pasifika, I truly believe present discrimination is just not the answer to try to balance the scales. It breeds comptemt.

I’m Māori Tongan and it’s absolutely segregation. For people who hate labels and boxes we sure love to put ppl in said boxes. “Safe space” 😂

racist , like maori wards

@herereihana7892

Ай бұрын

Maori lived well into there 100s before europians arived and we didint know what sickness was untill europian set foot we now have the worst stats regarding health from cancer strokes to heart attacks and the list go's on maori men are lucky to live into there 60s and females into there 70s europians are alot more immune to the europian way of life and live longer that is a fact. the food we now eat cemicals in almost everything to the edictions we face and the sickneses we try to combat It will take many genorations to improve maori health we need maori wards in Aotearoa New Zealand its not about having more rights then any other or being separate. maori doctors who have been taught from the best Europian doctors of the world can make huge changes in maori health its also a place were maori are together on there healing journey and dont feal alone we all have comfort in our own people caring for us and its what we need Sorry for the miss spelling hope you can read it lol all said with love and hope some might get a better understanding from one maori point of view lets unite but respect each others culture take care

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

Why do you think Maori Wards are racist?

@AngieSainty

Ай бұрын

I hope you are not a fan of that Doongey, Chantelle Baker .... she thought Maori Wards were Hospital Wards! :D How dumb is that? :D