Alex didnt simply drop dead either. No way.

@iti7201

Жыл бұрын

So did Chad & Lori off him OR his adoring wife that didn’t even bother to tell son she married? Maybe they had her do it?? I agree with you 100% but exactly who 🤷🏻‍♂️that wife was very suspect.

@prentfaiyaz

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he did....I imagine killing so many people takes a toll on the body

@iti7201

Жыл бұрын

@@prentfaiyaz killing people takes a toll on your body?? I imagine it takes a lot out of your mental health. However I’m not sure what you mean by a toll on your body. Would you mind explaining to me? I am not saying your wrong just I’m not sure of your meaning by this.

@Conanthebarbiturate

Жыл бұрын

@@iti7201I would say extreme mental stress would end up having an effect on your physical well-being so in that way it’s detrimental to the ‘body’ so to speak. I can understand why you asked the question though.

@user-fr1kl4jd5r

3 ай бұрын

I agree about Alex! Does anyone remember the interview with Zulma or someone that said Alex went to Mexico to get medication/prescriptions? I'm guessing he got something that isn't usually traced or looked for in the states during autopsies.

I’ve always thought Lori had something to do with Joe’s death. It wouldn’t surprise me if she bragged about it.

@stayahsome

Жыл бұрын

I love these little pieces coming together

@christinablair1978

Жыл бұрын

​@@John.Flower.ProductionsShe told two different people with her own mouth, that is not a "rumor."

@John.Flower.Productions

Жыл бұрын

@@christinablair1978 According to this person, "she told two different people." That is the definition of a rumor.

@Kamarca

Жыл бұрын

I totally believe she is behind his death.

@John.Flower.Productions

Жыл бұрын

@@Kamarca That may very well be the case but _"Someone said that she heard that she said…"_ is not even evidence, much less proof.

This only further confirms our suspicions. I want the Melanies to be charged for their involvements as well

@therealdeal3672

Жыл бұрын

You want! 😂😮 Probably not going to happen since they already got immunity. They definitely should have been charged but I guess the objective was to get Lori and Chad. And they needed a little bit of help from the Melanie's including testimony.

@nifflofair6685

Жыл бұрын

​@@therealdeal3672Why laugh?

@joannayeo9545

Жыл бұрын

Agree.

@christinakaur8766

Жыл бұрын

YES! No doubt in my mind that they were involved in everything. Melanie G could have prevented the deaths of JJ and Tylee. Melanie B is just like her aunt. I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks they are just as guilty as Lori and the rest of them!

@Agathanagatha

Жыл бұрын

I want the mel’s and zulema charged.they knew everything

It has been often stated, if only Joe's and especially Charle's deaths had been truly investigated the other murders may have been prevented. 😢

@dawnhasbroken6304

Жыл бұрын

Maybe, maybe not. That is just stuff that will drive you crazy.

@LifesPeachy321

Жыл бұрын

If they had put Alex and Lori in prison for the murder of Charles...the kids and Tammy would still be alive. That's a fact!

@odettegordonyo

Жыл бұрын

Alex did go to jail for attacking Josef Ryan with a taser. Why did he have guns when he shot Charles? I mean wow…maybe some more communication between law enforcement offices could go a long way in prevention. Maybe even just via a computer system that links incidents. I suspect foul play with Joe Ryan. Tylee received a pension from life insurance after his death. 😢

@scootermom1791

Жыл бұрын

No kidding!

@justkiddin84

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Failure in both counties.

When her friend wouldn't use her credit card for her hotel room, lori stopped talking to her. User. Killer. Manipulater. Narcissist. Psycho. Emptys Charles's bank account and leaves. What a witch

@thisorthat7626

Жыл бұрын

@maryellenbeale2188, Spot on! The red flags are all over the place and it is so sad that so many people either missed or ignored the warning flags.

@misfyresalot

Жыл бұрын

Major narcissist!

Why more people aren’t in jail for this is baffling.

A friend tells you that she paid her brother to kill her ex-husband who’s dead and you don’t call the police!? Not just 1 friend but 2!

@Sin-D_

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the entire social circle who normalizes things like “my spouse isn’t going to live much longer,” AND they all help to keep that info from the doomed spouse is f*cking insane too.

@mtaylor7307

Жыл бұрын

Alex had already served time for assaulting Joe. Joe was hospitalized three days. Several people said Lori paid Alex for that time. Joe dying later which was ruled natural causes may have also been murder by Lori but due to the immediate cremation we will never have proof.

@alison2649

Жыл бұрын

That’s why she felt untouchable. She openly confesses and people still say nothing.

@carinaekstrom1

Жыл бұрын

They might have believed her that he sexually abused Tylee and thought he deserved it.

@jeanP924

Жыл бұрын

​@@carinaekstrom1What a shame they would automatically believe this nut bag I don't think in their heart they thought Lori was ever telling the truth about anything people aren't stupid they just look the other way

Of course she killed joe. Cannot stand how her brothers on their podcast are saying it was chad who canged lori for the worse... they had no idea who their sister was.

@PMS..24

Жыл бұрын

Two evil minds coming together.. may all the victims RIP 🙏

@shirleyclifford9650

Жыл бұрын

It's her brother and uncle podcast

@karenaltschwager5929

Жыл бұрын

@@shirleyclifford9650 oh yeah.. both as creepy as alex. Whole family is weird.

@sashmo8

Жыл бұрын

The whole family is bizzaro.

@JMD621

Жыл бұрын

@@karenaltschwager5929stupid comment

If someone you know mentions that they paid someone to kill someone, call law enforcement, for pity's sake.

@garthg.6150

Жыл бұрын

Yeah no kidding.

@OutWestRedDirt

2 ай бұрын

She was saying he was a sexually predator. Not many would defend that.

@dixiebrantnerdereus3416

2 ай бұрын

And tell them immediately!

"Lori would kinda say crazy things sometimes." Understatement of the year. How's that escape portal working out lori?

@ihatespam2

Жыл бұрын

Religion gets a pass when they say crazy stuff.

@ChaCha-lt8rx

Жыл бұрын

I think she had watched that TV series LOST😂

@itsmeanne

Жыл бұрын

She won’t need that portal. She’ll just fold herself up into a taco and escape that way!

More stories of Lori being a user. How anyone was friends with her is beyond me.

@delilahhart4398

Жыл бұрын

She was considered attractive at one point and could be charming when she wanted to be. The fact that April told Lori that she needed to move out and the fact that April didn't hire Lori suggest that Lori's true colors eventually shone through after so much time had passed.

@nifflofair6685

Жыл бұрын

A user? She's a monster! Looks like she had Colby and Tyler's dad murdered as well.

@unapologeticallyamy9031

Жыл бұрын

Her friendships never lasted very long until people were brainwashed into thinking she was special. I’m not really sure how long those “friendships” lasted.

@maneckineckbeard1749

Жыл бұрын

Right!? I can't imagine any circumstance under which I'd stay friends with anyone who "always said crazy things" like claiming that they'd paid their brother to murder their ex-husband, that they were glad their ex was dead because it mant their child was getting social security benefits, or that they'd stolen money from their husband! Even if I thought they were just kidding around and/or were mentally ill, I'd still almost certainly just rather not have someone like that in my life...she sounds like she's always been toxic at best, and downright psychopathic at worst!

@nikkyro03

Жыл бұрын

@@nifflofair6685 colbys father is her second husband william lagiola and he is still alive. Joe ryan was her 3rd husband and tylees father. Shes been married 5 times total. Chad is unlucky #5.

The plot thickens, again. She's the gift that keeps on giving, but in a fatal way.

@cperm1

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!

@LaVidaLocaHomie

Жыл бұрын

Glenn Close has agreed to reprise her role in Fatal Attraction starring as Lori in my upcoming book about Lori named Fatal Covenant. There will be a similar bunny rabbit being cooked scene.

@ldolan4051

Жыл бұрын

Ya, after this will be her sister, right?

@Txl8y817

Жыл бұрын

More like the nightmare that keeps recurring.

@yomamalisa

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed When we thought we heard it all

It boggles my mind that coroners make so many mistakes when determining cause of death. I know about this 1st hand. My 38 year old nephew was found dead in his garage in Meridian Idaho with scizzors jabbed in his neck. The coroner ruled it a suicide. It absolutely was not a suicide. No way. First of all he never would have taken his own life and he owned a gun. NOBODY would walk out in their garage and jab a pair of scizzors into their neck! My nephew was murdered and so was Joe Ryan.

@BobbiGail

Жыл бұрын

This is an awful thing to have happened in your family. I am so sorry and sorry for the ridiculous conclusion. Scissors? Um... no. Hope your family can recover in the best way possible. Wow.

@junecoulthard8942

Жыл бұрын

WoW, I am so sorry to hear of your loss of your brother. That is shocking that he was ruled as suicide when he wasn't. People need to be held accountable and this needs to be further investigated some how. I know in your heart you won't be able to have peace until it is. Just like Joe Ryan There needs to be justice ⚖ bottom line. Best wishes to you, breaks my heart to hear these kinds of story's that are so much real. ❤❤

@kiki29073

Жыл бұрын

Similar thing happened in Alabama with my nephew a few months ago. Claimed it was a suicide but there was no way he did it with the way he died.

@ChubbyUnicorn

Жыл бұрын

Qualifications for rural coroners are woefully inadequate. Murders walk free & families destroyed because counties pinch pennies. Im so very sorry for your families loss

@rosep8481

Жыл бұрын

This happens way more than people realize

☠️ No surprise Lori wanted to kill ALL her ex-husbands. She's a real-life BLACK WIDOW 🕷.

@Globelle

Жыл бұрын

She kills anyone in her way not just husband's but I get your point

@barronmaxxx2991

Жыл бұрын

gloria and kelly....I get exactly what both of you are saying but, black widows act because God made them that way and Lori claims she's God ...Lori kills and says she's a translated fuxxng being...(whatever the hell that is but, it sounds frighteningly like a freaking demon spider) I was sad when I heard Chad attorney make claims about Tylee being awful and hated. Also, about the sympathy he tried to gain from the courts by discussing the challenges of being a mother to an autistic son. How dare he? In my opinion Lori was cheap and it was all about how much money she's get and the luxury she could bathe in...it was never about her kids or her husband....look at her legacy. Kay and Chuck and Colby will never be the same...and even on to her own family humiliated at standing up for her....and to the lives of the JJ's teachers and to the public who has cried more tears for these children than Lori. And this isn't about Chad so I won't go there except to say any success he had as an author was due to his wife...and his kids doing manual labor...and the reports of their church ordering their silence in fear of bringing down a business where money is part of going to church instead of donations made when afforded....those kids and the chilling interviews t5rying to prove their dad's innocence due to him being "seduced" by the devil Jezebel. Uh, no. He is just as bad if not worse.

@carolynatkinson9298

Жыл бұрын

I think Lori and Alex both had something to do with their sister's death as well. I truly believe that's where it started.

@Robin-lg9zr

Жыл бұрын

She wanted his SS check for Tylee because she knew she could benefit off of it!

@kellycasperhanson4426

Жыл бұрын

@carolynatkinson9298 You make several very good points. The start of all the mental sickness was likely Lori and Alex's controlling/pedophile father. He was garbage. Yuck🤮.

Wish I could say this was shocking or surprising but… 🙄😩😤 she’s the worst.

2020 and nothing has been done about it? That is ridiculous. So many lives could have been saved.

@amandagloverart2425

Жыл бұрын

No those kids were dead in 2019

@StellaKnights

Жыл бұрын

sadly I think they never autopsied him and he was cremated so theres very little they can do now , plus Alex is dead so ...

@catlink8998

Жыл бұрын

@@StellaKnights He was autopsied. Unfortunately there was a bit of decomposition since he had been dead a week or more. His death was ruled natural causes at that point.

@heleneocleary5888

Жыл бұрын

Clueless, is how the Forces act. They ignore red flags and don’t follow up on anything,from what I see.

@simplelove513

Жыл бұрын

The direct threat to Charles should have been taken seriously imo. If it had been I believe the kids would still be here along with Charles and Alex.

I want the murder of Alex Cox to come out next! The timing was way too suspicious

@merricat3025

Жыл бұрын

I think Alex's wife killed him for Chad and Lori

@ashleeostroff2340

Жыл бұрын

@@merricat3025 def possible. Bet he was poisoned. Same as JR

@merricat3025

Жыл бұрын

@@ashleeostroff2340 she did something. Didn't she have a life insurance policy too?

This info was released years ago. Hopefully Joe will find some kind of justice eventually

@mtaylor7307

Жыл бұрын

His immediate cremation ensured that would be impossible. Another slick move by Lori.

@HapticFrequencies

Жыл бұрын

​@mtaylor7307 I forget....did they call Lori about his death and then she was in "charge" of his remains, & @ what point did Annie know he'd died?

This is huge. I'm hoping they have verified this with April. Justice for Joe! ❤🙏

@StellaKnights

Жыл бұрын

this is actually old , I hard this tape ages ago and they have nothing

@Jerseybaby19

Жыл бұрын

It was enough to have his death reinvestigated... which I believe is an open investigation now

@puregrace-anna555

Жыл бұрын

@@Jerseybaby19it is not an open investigation. We may however help spread the word for public to contact Phoenix police and we can encourage others to sign the petition for them to re-open the case. I will post the link below.

@mness143

Жыл бұрын

​@@StellaKnights I also heard this info in the beginning as well. It would be interesting if these other two ladies actually came forward and told the police this scenario.

@therealz360z7

Жыл бұрын

This is a repost it's been published before.

I knew she killed him but unfortunately I don't believe there's anything they can do about it because he's been cremated and that's a shame😢 RIP Joe🙏

It all comes down to the almighty dollar. Joe Ryan = life insurance Charles Vallow = life insurance & social security Tylee Ryan = social security deth benefit from Joe Ryan JJ Vallow = social security death benefit from Charles Vallow Tammy Daybell = life insurance I think this explains it all. Thank you Nate for your continuing coverage of this tragedy.

@jendee1260

2 ай бұрын

both kids also had life insurance policies.

@ReeAnn20

2 ай бұрын

👏 👏

Who here is surprised by this woman's statements??? Certainly not me. I suspected that all along. I also do not believe alexs death was "natural". I just dont.

@laurenmay2098

Жыл бұрын

Zulema, she did for Lori.

@Arkie-Sparkle

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree!!!

@marshapieroni6677

Жыл бұрын

Yes, anyone following this case knows that's what happened but dang, did this call happen before her trial?

@remycallie

Жыл бұрын

Alex was autopsied. He died of a pulmonary embolism. That happens when a blood clot forms in the leg and then comes loose and travels to the lungs. That can't be induced.

@Arkie-Sparkle

Жыл бұрын

@@remycallie Medications and illicit drugs??

You know what’s heartbreaking??!!! Is that Charles knew she wasn’t right in the head and warned everyone ! All the family and even the police and he was still murdered because of her! That breaks my heart as well as what she did to her own children ! This case is insane and I can’t seem to grasp my mind round it ! Just like the Chris watts case ! Absolutely shocking what humanity has come to ! 🙏😢💔

@seasonofthewitch7249

Жыл бұрын

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

@iveliserojas612

Жыл бұрын

Cops failed Charles if they got Alex arrested the rest of Lori kids Charles Brandon Tammy no would be alive so I hope Adam sue them meaning the cops and Jo would of been alife

@prentfaiyaz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but he was also trying to get back with her.

@ErinAbou

11 ай бұрын

I think he was only trying to get her into treatment. I do think he would have still divorced her in time. He wanted her to accept her adult responsibility as mother of J.J. and Tylee. That would require her to leave the cult and go into psychiatric treatment.@@prentfaiyaz

Wow! This is interesting, I’m not surprised by anything anymore! She is an absolute monster! So many lives could of been saved it’s heartbreaking 😢

Joseph Ryan and Alex Cox both died of a coronary thrombosis which can be caused by an injection of an air bubble from an empty syringe. Get this: the first thing Chad Daybell said to the Coroner at Tami's death bed was "I think she died of a coronary thrombosis." The Coroner testified to that in Lori's trial. My only point is, Lori had Joseph killed, too, and maybe they tried it on Tami along with asphyxiation/strangulation. This call is even more proof of that. Lori's responsible for all those murders just to make her own life better with the demise of each insured or inconvenient family member.

@Globelle

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I have consistently stated on different channels.

@eleanoraquitaine2966

Жыл бұрын

@@Globelle Me, too. Repeatedly. Good for us for noticing what most people haven't.

@eleanoraquitaine2966

Жыл бұрын

@taramcgavan7654 What sister?

@angelapepple9901

Жыл бұрын

@@eleanoraquitaine2966 Melanie's mom..... Stacey

@bugsea54

Жыл бұрын

I believe it!

This is what Annie Cushing, Joseph Ryan sister and Tylee Ryan's Aunty has been saying for years to the police. I've heard this before! It's like the police don't care about Joseph Ryan and it's extremely sad. Annie has done a investigation type video on one of her channels - Annielytics &/or A Murderous Heart. They're both fantastic channels, as she gets every single point across after cross referencing everything from the FOIA documents.

@charliebarrow7086

Жыл бұрын

Is that the same Annie Cushing that didn't have any contact with her brother and/or niece? After all, it wasn't her who reported her niece missing. She didn't even know that Tylee was missing. Had it not been for Brandon and the Woodcock's reporting the children missing, Chad and Lori might have gotten away with it.....

@hollyfabiani

Жыл бұрын

Does Annie know about this video and recording?

@87prawblems

Жыл бұрын

@@charliebarrow7086I would recommend watching Annie’s videos before you make such hurtful comments. She (and Joe and siblings) endured a tough childhood and their relationship suffered ebbs and flows caused by years of separation and also the lies and manipulation of Annie By Lori Vallow. Annie has been a warrior for Tylee and JJ and is currently suffering health problems most likely from the stress of a global murder case and the unsolved death of Joe. Joe included Annie as a life insurance beneficiary despite their estrangement (partially orchestrated by LORIIIIIIIII) and it’s clear he dearly loved his baby sister. Annielytics and a Murderous Heart are her channels. Dive deep. Get the facts before you callously comment regarding the loving Aunt who visited Tylee about a year and a half before Tylee was murdered.

@justkiddin84

Жыл бұрын

@@charliebarrow7086 Sadly, we are often cut out of kids lives by toxic parents. You can’t just barge in or stop them on the way out of school or something-it’s ILLEGAL for extended family to contact kids without parental permission. And Lousi had almost everyone dangling from her evil bloody fingers for many years. I have not listened to the pods-going to check them out, though-but any normal human involved in this is also a victim and you are out of line.

@mtaylor7307

Жыл бұрын

@@charliebarrow7086 Annie verified Joe's physical and emotional abuse of Colby. That's difficult. No one could verify the sexual abuse stories Lori created and told. Annie is a former reporter and managed to uncover evidence others missed or didn't piece together. Annie's family had extended an open invitation to Tylee as a teen. Lori controlled that scenario, unfortunately. We see how that turned out. We are all judging from the outside, aren't we?

😠😡😠🤬Chandler PD needs to fire all those incompetent bozos playing detective

@rebeccaswift7588

Жыл бұрын

Chandler PD dropped the ball in this case. I believe whole heartedly that the kids and Tammy would still be alive had Chandler LE arrested Alex AND Lori when they killed Charles..it boggles my mind that they weren't arrested..

@therealz360z7

Жыл бұрын

They eluded the question when asked in the stand when asked when they got Charles phone away from Lori ? Instead of saying when they said the vehicle she was in.

@sitnspin1819

Жыл бұрын

@@rebeccaswift7588 Those cops were more concerned about who went to which church and who was LDS. Absolutely terrifying when law enforcement is under the thrall of a church so much, that it's more important than actual lives. I don't know how bad religion has become in America, but if this is an example? My advice would be to move to Canada because that, right there, is a foreshadowing of things to come.

@Paula-po9kx

Жыл бұрын

Thank you East Idaho news.

@JeepGirl941

Жыл бұрын

Agree! There is no valid reason for not arresting Alex that day they killed Charles. His story CLEARLY didn't match the evidence in front of them!

Man this is like the never ending soap opera😮

@LaVidaLocaHomie

Жыл бұрын

Like an eveready battery.

Not a big surprise, but hearing it from her friends definitely makes it even more believable

@ldolan4051

Жыл бұрын

Witnesses would be good

A lot of people snd family who were around Lori knew all her lies and let her be ...until reality was on their faces. Too late, too sad.

Not shocking to me. When will this ever end with this demon 😈

@shelleyjohnston1106

Жыл бұрын

I believe that but too bad it's so late. I always thought she was involved with Joe's death.

@southernsass2937

Жыл бұрын

​@@shelleyjohnston1106 Same.

That’s why she killed Tylee because Kylie was growing up and she was probably threatening to tell on them. Tylee knew too much. Lori made Tylee lie about her dad abusing her. You can go back and read it in the transcripts and the case from when that was happening, it was obvious she had no marks she had no signs of abuse at all.

Yeah, if your friend tells you she had her ex murdered, maybe you should tell authorities. Especially after Alex killed Charles! Being questioned by police might have given Alex second thoughts about killing 4 more people just to please Lori.

@LaVidaLocaHomie

Жыл бұрын

If that leaked back to Lori no doubt she would have been put to the top of the hit list.

@teresawood6830

Жыл бұрын

@@LaVidaLocaHomie It really takes courage to speak up when you hear or see something , especially a violent crime, and you know the perpetrator. Sometimes that’s the only way justice can be served. Thanks to Kay and Larry in the case of Tylee and JJ. ❤

Alex was basically Lori’s hitman!

Very sad for all these men who crossed Lori’s path. Especially sad for the two children.

@zariballard

Жыл бұрын

Caused Lori's path??

@llamamama2910

Жыл бұрын

Don’t feel sorry for Chad. But Joe and Charles-yes.

Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to this case.

Lori is so superficial, has no relationship with the Truth, and no empathy.

@nifflofair6685

Жыл бұрын

A psychopath.

@helenussery4756

Жыл бұрын

S he has no relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ either.

@jeanP924

Жыл бұрын

100%

@heleneocleary5888

Жыл бұрын

Yes the Truth refers to Jesus, he said I am the Way The Truth and the Life, no one comes to The Father except through me.

Absolutely no wonder Annie has been stressing Joe's death so hard 💔

@tamiflo

Жыл бұрын

I hope Annie gets justice and closure too ❣️

As a 30 year police detective, we should not jump the gun in accusing this female detective of not doing her job without more information that we are not privy to. We do not know if the female detective interviewed both of the witnesses and they may have denied they told the caller this information about what Lori was supposed to have said. They could have also said they did not know if Lori was being truthful when she made the supposed statements. In my career, I encountered many suspects who have made similar statements to people and then later we found out someone else committed the crimes. We don't know the backgrounds of the two witnesses and their veracity. The detective may have interviewed Lori and Lori denied making the statements. In addition, there is not an autopsy that states the cause of death was homicide, which is a must in order to charge. There would have to be overwhelming evidence to get the forensic pathologist to change his or her opinion of the cause of death. The district attorney or the Grand Jury could have refused to indict Lori without more evidence or corroboration. What I am trying to say is there could have been many many reasons why Lori has not been charged and we may never know those reasons, but they could be valid reasons.

@ldolan4051

Жыл бұрын

If they came forward and admitted to hearing this, would that be enough? I would like to know the means of death for not only Joe, but Tammy, Tylee, JJ and Alex.

@Bess9779

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure all these things are more complicated than we usually know. Law Enforcement probably gets hundreds more false leads than good ones on any particular case. Weeding through them has got to be highly time-consuming & frustrating. Some things only make sense after the fact.

@allisonhaskell5440

Жыл бұрын

First Lori would never admit she did kill someone to police .. Charles was a nice man who got pushed around by Lori and was mentally abused by Lori

@kavitadeva

Жыл бұрын

Look Detective Debbie. I hear you, HOWEVER just look at this case from a large viewpoint, not one thing. Then I think you would have to agree Law Enforcement has dropped the ball far too often. If handled with the seriousness it deserved This horrific case may have never got this far.

@nimmesisbp2395

Жыл бұрын

Ok. I’m getting some groceries at Walmart. Is he about to go to sleep? If so, I’ll just head straight home. To Live Oak

That is why I will always believe that if Chad had never met Lori, he would have never been in this situation today.

If she really thought Joe molested tylee then why would she move to Hawaii and leave tylee with Joe for a few months? Makes no sense.

@jendee1260

2 ай бұрын

uhm why would she do any of this? none of this makes sense. she didn’t love tylee. why wouldn’t she leave her with just about anybody? she did have her killed & buried.

@sailing1stwatch

2 ай бұрын

@@jendee1260 It's crazy

This is not shocking to me at all. I always figured she and Alex had something to do with his death.

I can’t believe how cavalier people are. She said she had her ex killed, but since she said other crazy stuff, ignore it? This woman heard this how long ago? At least her brother, or whoever that was, has a conscience.

@melissajohnson3308

Жыл бұрын

They also think they can get in the closet and teleport so I mean I can see not really paying attention to her nonsense😊

@CopWifeCopMom

Жыл бұрын

This phone call came along time ago. It’s just now being released.

@jeanP924

Жыл бұрын

​@@melissajohnson3308right and Lori claims to be a translated being who doesn't have to sleep, eat or poo 💩 now isn't that special? LoL

@jeanP924

Жыл бұрын

​@@CopWifeCopMomI am so glad they did now the remaining cult members can be charged with their crimes when they helped Lori eliminate five people.

@ihatespam2

Жыл бұрын

@@CopWifeCopMom I'm referring to what she knows and says right here. Lori said she killed her ex, and the friends didn't report it.

And the sad part about Joe is he was cremated, otherwise his body would have told the story.

@backwoodsgeorgiagirl5594

Жыл бұрын

He was so decomposed by the time his death was discovered it would have been very hard to prove murder

Lori always has played the victim and found men who always wanted to be her night in shining armor and of course money was always involved in her end game as well.

@cruzinbosco

Жыл бұрын

Not all. First husband was a drug user who got her on drugs, second one was some guy she found at the mall who lived with his parents and would eventually be arrested for abusing her. So, the first two... not so much "knights in shining armor". The others? Maybe.

@christinakaur8766

Жыл бұрын

I'm absolutely sure that Chad was Lori's next victim. She would have gotten not only Chad's insurance money, but also the money he was going to get from Tammy's policies. It's crazy how she was able to manipulate every single man she encountered, including the police.

@merricat3025

Жыл бұрын

​@babynamehaven Well, the first one was probably knight in shining armor because he got her out of house and gave her attention, 2nd one, I would doubt he abused her. Just because she said it doesn't make it true. No idea what happened in that marriage or much about him. Guess, he is lucky to be alive.

I knew it !! Now maybe his sister can get justice!! She has worked so hard on her videos. She believes Joe was murdered. I do too.

Knew it all along. Was her sister Stacey their first victim?

@daniellechance615

Жыл бұрын

I think so.

@hopeful8975

Жыл бұрын

Did she not have a good relationship with her sister?

@kitandsons173

Жыл бұрын

I think they were in it together for insurance or something.

@JeepGirl941

Жыл бұрын

@@kitandsons173 I think they got some type of benefit from killing Stacey, even if it was just to prevent her from telling on them when their parents were away that last time...

@californiadreamer2580

Жыл бұрын

I don't think so, Stacey had some very severe mental illness of her own which is notated in court documents filed by her ex husband for custody of Melanie (B) P.

Really wish we would stop calling her Vallow. Charles’s family deserves better. She married Chad, she’s his psycho wife, call her by his name.

@meganbessenbacher7107

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I'm constantly correcting myself in my head for their sake.

@mildredwhite

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Her name is Lori Daybell.

Nate, we gave you lots of love yesterday on Crime Weekly’s channel on their last installment of this case. Your famous confrontation was featured and Derrick and Stephanie were complimentary. Many of us chimed in to sing your praises. But let’s face it, Lori didn’t have to pay for Alex to kill anyone. He did it on his own.

@anjanean

Жыл бұрын

Do you mind sending a link pls I'm interested thx

@dorelyherrera

Жыл бұрын

Geez does it ever end ????

@PanicattheDiscourse

Жыл бұрын

​@@anjaneankzread.info/dash/bejne/hquCs7SAaMipYLA.html here you go

@jeanP924

Жыл бұрын

​@@dorelyherrerano there are other victims of Lori and Chad and Alex. Chad's neighbor mysteriously dropped dead after reporting the bonfire in Chad's backyard. Another victim of Lori's is her child custody attorney. Lori lost custody of Tylee to Joe and that infuriated her to the point to where she poisoned him in my opinion. If he died of a pulmonary embolism it's the same way Alex Cox, Tammy Daybell and the neighbor Eldon Clawson died.

@isola-bella

Жыл бұрын

​@@anjaneanwith pleasure kzread.info/dash/bejne/hquCs7SAaMipYLA.html 👍

i forget which interview this came out in but Lori told Charles “I could kill you and no one would find you for weeks because you’re such a bad person, no one would care.” She seemed to isolate her partners from friends and family, kill them, and get away with it because no one was around to question her story or talk to police except her and alex.

@nenej12

Жыл бұрын

I hope she can isolate them studs from getting that POONANI lol when she’s in DOC

“Lori was kind of into the end of world…but I wasn’t as excited about it as she was…” WOW

Annie needs to hear this. I always assumed Lori was involved in Joe Ryan's death but actually hearing this is mind-blowing.

@meganmosch8826

Жыл бұрын

Annie?

@HapticFrequencies

Жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain she is in the know re: every thing Joe-related, @ this point

@Kristenm28

2 ай бұрын

I'm sure she has.

@Kristenm28

2 ай бұрын

​@@meganmosch8826Joe Ryan's sister.

I’ve always thought Lori had something to do with this, possibly using eye drops in his water or coffee as there was cases recently and difficult to detect and of course she had Joseph cremated ASAP and didn’t notify his family.

@skyeblu1722

Жыл бұрын

Hmmmmm? Perhaps, but I thought Mormons didn’t drink coffee?🤔☕️

She’s literally a serial killer

Holy cow. This is an eye opener for sure

Not surprised one bit😮

wow this woman is a piece of work

I didn't need to watch this video to know Lori was behind Joe's death. She's like a black widow spider 🕷

And this is supposed to be surprising why? One of the most evil women ever is saying she arranged for yet another murder!! What I would like to know is what the hell was wrong with Alex Cox that he did her bidding no matter how evil! 10 to 1 she managed to arrange Alex’s death also!!

@KatieAllison77

Жыл бұрын

She absolutely killed or arranged Alex’s death.

@nada7.077

Жыл бұрын

@@KatieAllison77 I believe 117% she did!!

@ihatespam2

Жыл бұрын

That’s was his sex source apparently…

@nada7.077

Жыл бұрын

@@ihatespam2 🤮

@nada7.077

Жыл бұрын

@@ihatespam2 eewwww gross!!

At this point I don’t think anyone is really surprised. What a sad, misguided individual Lori is.

@ralphmajor1947

Жыл бұрын

The itch between her legs and her greed was what was motivating Lori! Just be nice to the gentleman Fancy and they'll be nice to you 😊?

@ErinFindsHerWay

Жыл бұрын

I think “misguided” is too kind. She’s flat out evil.

@barbaraallen168

Жыл бұрын

​@@ErinFindsHerWayhas gone

@jeanP924

Жыл бұрын

Lori is Misguided? That's an understatement. Lori is pure evil. If she was only misguided she wouldn't have had her daughter chopped up and burned That's called diabolical evil.

@mauriceholder1386

Жыл бұрын

Sad and misguided? No she is pure EVIL.

Would it surprise anyone if this were true. I never believed Joe Ryan died naturally or that he SAed either child. Sadly he will never get justice and I'm afraid neither shall Charles Vallow. Police botch job at its worst. She really should have gotten the death penalty never a more evil women imo

@truebluenovocastrian

Жыл бұрын

Joe Ryan’s own sister admitted he was a pedophile

@con2enterprise.

Жыл бұрын

I agree 💯

@rosep8481

Жыл бұрын

Colby said Joe was abusive to him

@innervisions1828

Жыл бұрын

@@rosep8481 And those claims have been proven false. Joe was vindicated by the family court. Lori coached both Tylee and Colby. Colby is also complicit in the murders. He's just one of many people who COULD have called LE with information and did not.

@cruzinbosco

Жыл бұрын

He may not have SAed them, but he WAS abusive. We have eyewitnesses to that fact. Just want that to be clear.

I have already pondered this, and came to the exact conclusion, on my own. The ONLY thing I didnt consider, and I doubt is true, is that she actually PAID Alex. This whole family is sketch, they were raised sketch, and most likely their dad is high ranking lucy followers, aka santas workshop. Some of you know exactly what i mean. The signs are all there. No suprise here, and she justified it by ruining a mans integrity AND LIFE, by accusing him of terrible acts against Tylee. Lori is as sinister as they come.

@marshapieroni6677

Жыл бұрын

She didn't have to pay him or worry about him squealing if he was dead

@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie

Жыл бұрын

High ranking Lucy followers?, what is that?

@meganmosch8826

Жыл бұрын

I'm a Charlie Brown follower personally

@time2see192

Жыл бұрын

@@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie Luciferians.

@hemulek

Жыл бұрын

What is Lucy followers may I ask?

Pretty sure most of us suspected this kinda hard to believe all those folks just dropping dead by coincidence.

I wish Lori's family could have been more persistent about having her committed when she started her crazy talk. Tylee and JJ would probably still be here if someone in that messed up family had the bal** to get her some help! Plus, Chad should've been committed, too!!!

@DonnaLena1

Жыл бұрын

Anyone else feel like her brother and uncle starting a podcast talking about Lori and Alex as if they were the crazy ones in a family of normal people just a tad too much? The Cox family is a dysfunctional mess at best.

@Jerseybaby19

Жыл бұрын

​@@DonnaLena1absolutely agree

@ihatespam2

Жыл бұрын

Her parents were mental too.

@BobbiGail

Жыл бұрын

​@@DonnaLena1I disagree. People process things differently and sometimes talking it through works out. Plus ppl keep badgering them w questions. The other brother was estranged from the family at the time bc he disagreed with their enabling of Lori. It's ok for them, tho. They expect some ppl to not approve. They've been through everything else, why not that too.

@con2enterprise.

Жыл бұрын

​@@DonnaLena1💯 and for money fire some kind of fund???

"Charles could be 'intense' about things." Yes, people who are in danger of being killed have a tendency to be that way. Go figure!

Sad to say, we knew that already. But can they prove it??

That doesn’t surprise me

Alex killed his sister too! Melanie’s mother. He used her credit cards and was alone with her when she died!!!!!

@december1008

3 ай бұрын

This doesn't surprise me.

I’ve always thought Lori did something to cause Joe’s death. I don’t know how they’ll ever prove if she did. We’re lucky JJ’s grandparents were looking for him or authorities may have never put all the murders together.

It's not out of the realm of reality that Lori was responsible for Joe Ryan's death.

@dianehelgaduncan4055

Жыл бұрын

I think some kind of poison was used. Funny how so many people close to her died from PEs.

What a shocker!! NOT

too bad she waited years to speak up

Wow first time i heard that

It fits. She made a big deal in the podcast she did with MG, about how she was "either going to kill her husband or dedicate her life to the temple". I always thought that "or" would be more honestly stated as "and". She killed him and in her head, she had to be OK with that. And so follows the extremism. She had been "proven" special, because she didn't get caught. God was OK with her killing Joe, because she was never investigated as his murderer, let alone prosecuted for it. So, she's special to god, blah blah blah, meets Chad, everyone dies. Makes perfect sense.

Well great to be telling her you won’t mention her name, but seeing this on Idaho news….well, that’s pretty public! 😳

Interesting. Good work Nate you're the best.

Chad would have been next. Lori is a modern day Nanny Doss

This is not new , this tape has been around a long time

@mtaylor7307

Жыл бұрын

I hadn't heard it yet.

This isn't new information. I heard this recording at least a year ago

This woman is odd! She doesn't finish statements, but interrupts herself and goes elsewhere.

Wow, this never stops! Maybe they should get an Exorcism done on Lori! 😳

She straight up snitched on April and Angelina😮

Those two ladies names should have been beeped out for their privacy .

This is old news - this conversation was released a couple of years ago.

I'm either having a seriously detailed De Ja vous........or this is a year old! I'm SURE I've heard this conversation before!

Those poor 2 kids 😢

All the murders have one common denominator…Lori! Chad was following her not the other way around!

This friends sounds like she is all excited to gossip and spill the tea, not horrified about all that happened. The way she dismisses stuff "oh Lori always said weird things"... excuse me? Is this woman serious? Who else is she friends with? This whole bunch of people is from another planet.

I have always thought that Lori had killed Joe somehow or caused his death. Too many things just add up to her murdering him.

Lori had 5 people executed by Alex! Charles Vallow, Tylee and JJ, Tammy Daybell and Joe. And don’t forget Alex tried to kill her nieces husband Brandon by shooting at his vehicle. The niece, Melanie, I believe was in on everything, she knew about the murders and asked uncle Alex to get rid of her husband because of child custody issues.

@jmo2104

2 ай бұрын

I agree, I am hoping that they will charge her next.

When is this woman going to be sentenced?

@mildredwhite

Жыл бұрын

July 30 I believe.

I appreciate all your hard work in obtaining this information NATE. I applaud all you did to ensure that these people were held responsible for having the children murdered as well as her ex’s as well as CHAD killing his wife. The horrific part is that even her friends couldn’t believe the extent of the crimes and what happened. 😳🙏🏽♥️

I am not surprised if she was involved with Joe Ryans death , and I even wonder if she even had something to do with he sisters death.

Not sure how I would react if a friend of mine told me he/she had paid someone to kill someone else but it always amazes me how much information people have prior to a tragedy and in relation to it. Most people would rather ignore and downplay serious stuff instead of having to deal with the consequences of believing it. The psychological term for that is 'cognitive dissonance' and would indeed describe how people would rather avoid pain than having to deal with it. Avoiding pain can be through brushing a serious remark off or refusing to believe certain things about someone you love or about something they did even when all the evidence points in that direction or someone else had witnessed the event as it took place... however, it still fascinates me when it happens and I think a lot of unfortunate events could've been prevented if most people learned how to deal with pain and how to process negative, uncomfortable emotions.

I've never heard this! Wow!!!

Isn't it odd that these people are constantly moving?

Wow sharing this recording outed some people. Like the nurse daughter that said Lori came in to the place she worked for care just violated hipaa. I’m not a Lori fan by any means, but I feel some things should have been removed to protect people.

She couldn’t stand not being able to brag about being responsible for Joe’s death. She took it as long as she could, like the podcast, “I was going to murder him…” Yes, LV, you got your evil brother to do the leg work, but even when it’s about murder, you want all the credit!!!” 🙄 She also ransacked Joe’s place, took stuff Annie should have had, photos & things that only family would want, but she has to win everything!!! Or at the very least, make sure everyone else is cut out. Of all her family, friends…all the people she was around, it’s unbelievable that somebody didn’t try to have her seen by a professional for her mental disorder. Wait. Who am I kidding? 😖She would have never allowed it, & her family didn’t or wouldn’t see it. I think a lot of their dysfunction was very normal to them. Like this X friend said, “she hates psych drs.” That’s a pretty bold claim (or was it fear?) about that profession. Her type do NOT & will NOT be exposed!! She probably got a clue what sort of testing & things these drs. do during all the court drama she drummed up on Joe. & she knew she would be 💯 exposed if this testing were to have been done on her. They probably tried & like everything else, she was able to manipulate & weasel her way out of it. Even though it’s good to listen back again @ these calls, etc., I hate the reminders of so many balls being dropped by LE! That has to be hard to live with, but who knows? Lack of sympathy/ empathy & lives not taking priority like they should… some are desensitized to it. 😢

@meganbessenbacher7107

Жыл бұрын

She was evaluated and released the same day

@rOnda88

Жыл бұрын

@@meganbessenbacher7107 That was after she & MG had done all those things to Charles…she took his $35k & he couldn’t make payroll… Charles had her purse & she, Tylee, & MG went to the police station & the rookie cop basically told her how to breeze through the “eval” @ Community Bridges. Im still not convinced she even hit all the marks, nor that it was even a true evaluation.

@meganbessenbacher7107

Жыл бұрын

@rOnda88 I thought I knew a lot about the case!! You should Wright a book!

I'm a "Writing on the wall" type and even i could interpret that

Justice for Joe. RIP to all the victims.