Looney Runes: Hoaxes or Proof of Viking Penetrations of the Mississippi Basin?

Two of the most widely acknowledged runic inscriptions in the Americas - in Oklahoma and Minnesota - would appear to indicate that Vikings explored inland North America long before 1500. How likely is it that they're real?
Jackson Crawford provides a really good analysis of the linguistic aspects of the Kensington Runestone here: • The Kensington Runesto...
For information on Pentadic numerals:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentadi...
00:10 Introduction
01:59 The Heavener Runestone
04:47 The Kensington Runestone
06:04 Evidence that the KRS is fake
06:32 The Kensington Stone's Discoverer, Olaf Ohman
07:17 Linguistic Problems with the KRS
09:32 Problems with the 1362 Date
10:32 Conclusions
12:56 Closing Credits
#runes #vikings #history #archaeology

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  • @user-hz7gk4yg8x
    @user-hz7gk4yg8xАй бұрын

    the scientist can only trace the shawnee back to the 1000s. shawnee also say they lived on a island surrounded by water before coming to americas.

  • @humbledone6382

    @humbledone6382

    29 күн бұрын

    The Algonquin language families of “native Americans” claim that around 940 AD they began to move south out of Alaska/NW Canada, and that they encountered and battled (often wiping out) tribes along their trek south. Also, several tribes say that their ancestors had only been in the New England region for a couple of generations when they encountered Europeans.

  • @mickaleneduczech8373
    @mickaleneduczech8373Ай бұрын

    The Kensington Runestone: Besides all the other problems, I question the idea that a party returned to camp to find half their expedition dead, and decide the remain in the camp for a month while they carve a long winded runestone.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    Excellent point! "Half our party just got massacred. Let's hang around and carve inscriptions."

  • @kwhulcher8421

    @kwhulcher8421

    Ай бұрын

    1362 date carved in it. One year after the battle of Visby 1361. Some of the inscription is said to not be Futhark but the same letters found on Gotland Island. In Visby if I recall correctly. Stone was found not far from headwater leading to south to Mississippi and north to Lake Itasca which drains into Hudson Bay.

  • @jeffreyrobinson3555

    @jeffreyrobinson3555

    Ай бұрын

    That’s assuming thoughts that may not be in past minds

  • @Green.Country.Agroforestry
    @Green.Country.Agroforestry25 күн бұрын

    Not far from where I live, near the town of Turley, OK there is a stone where the runes were largely worn away. What remains reads 'Here, on this island" .. leading us to ponder, when the particular hill it had been found on had been an _island_ I don't know the language it was written in, the stone is on private property, and no one is permitted to go tramping about Turley Hill looking after it these days. I first encountered the runes in the pages of Bullfinch's Norse Mythology, became acquainted with them, and made a habit of scratching them everywhere when I was a preteen .. by the time I was a teenager, I was writing in runic script, in High German .. so if you see any of that, you can know where it came from. I doubt the explorers would have such good grammar 😉

  • @mikeevans96
    @mikeevans96Ай бұрын

    Yeah...the Vikings weren't known for sailing or traveling long distances up rivers in strange foreign lands to explore....only they were. According to the book "In Plain Sight" by Ms. Farley, the Choctaw...who got there in the 1830's said the inscription was already on the stone and old when they found it. So...unless some trapper or frontiersman was educated in runes...elder futhark....and carved it (but why) I'm going with Occam's Razor....

  • @dannyboywhaa3146

    @dannyboywhaa3146

    Ай бұрын

    Yes however, most or a heck of a lot of those frontiersmen, certainly further north for the fur industry, were Scandinavians - still loads of their surnames around - they were used to that environment unlike the British and French who, really, didn’t have much of a clue what they were doing, so their trapping expertise was much needed! So they probably would have had knowledge of runes, at least those more educated in interested in such matters! I think they did settle North America more than is thought, down as far as Maine certainly but I also think there were cut off by the little ice age, as were Greenland and Iceland and the communities either mixed with the natives or were killed off by the natives... all supply lines were gone - they were cut off and small in number! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👍

  • @jolenajade

    @jolenajade

    Ай бұрын

    @@dannyboywhaa3146 Most of the frontiersmen were NOT Scandinavians, Most learned to survive in the wilds from Indigenous guides. The vast majority of the European "frontiersman" in the North were French, Dutch or from the UK. The natives were coaxed into war to supply the ever growing desire for Fur . We have a legend of a island colony of White people called Saguenay Up the Ottawa River, who worked metals including iron,copper and silver and who waged constant war.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    You're certainly right that most were not Scandinavians: they were mostly French, English, Scottish, and early on Dutch, but there were some Scandinavians also. Again, I'm not expert on this, and I haven't checked its sources, but this site might be helpful: www.scandinavianmountainmen.se/index.php?pageid=23

  • @dannyboywhaa3146

    @dannyboywhaa3146

    Ай бұрын

    @@jolenajade if you go to Newfoundland you can still find a lot of Scandinavian surnames... I didn’t say most frontiersmen... I said most of the people doing the fur trapping in the north...

  • @dannyboywhaa3146

    @dannyboywhaa3146

    Ай бұрын

    @@jolenajade a Dutchmen or Normandy Frenchmen might well know some runes as well anyway... as might someone from the UK for that matter...

  • @jimspear3033
    @jimspear3033Ай бұрын

    A strong tie between the knights templars and vikings has been documented. Their persecution in the 1300's led to them fleeing to north america. Their presence in Roslyn scotland is documented, along with a trip to north america in the late 1300's. Recent archeological finds from oak island show norse presence in the 600's to 800's on oak island along with knights templars in the 1200's. The egyptian navy was deep water and manned by Libyan sailors. The presence of cocaine in the tissues of egyptian mummies indicate a south american connection. The sea level was lower back then. The grand banks used to be above water.

  • @tomray8765
    @tomray8765Ай бұрын

    I can't recall the name of the program just now, but According to The Historical geologist from the History channel who did a season's worth of research on this, the Vikings DID INDEED explore the central parts of the USA and Canada. They left stones engraved with runes at the outlets of river drainage basins, claiming the lands drained by the streams. He discovered evidence that LATER, the FRENCH discovered these in the early fir trade times and, surreptitiously, initiated a campaign to find and DESTROY all of these they could so as not to "complicate" their own land claims in North America. Obviously, they missed a few of them.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    I think you're talking about the geologist, Scott Wolter. As I recall, he focuses on the age and origin of the rocks these inscriptions are on, and sometimes tries to assess how "fresh" (or not) the engravings are, but has nothing to offer on the linguistic aspects of the inscriptions and, of course, has no other artifacts to support these interpretations.

  • @georgenelson8917

    @georgenelson8917

    Ай бұрын

    A historical geologist research very very old layers of rocks , you need a ARCHAEOGIST, we study early humans . Please use CRITICAL THINKING: what could be wrong with your favorite emotional feels about a subject.

  • @tomray8765

    @tomray8765

    Ай бұрын

    @@georgenelson8917 He DID have a point with the odd way certain letters (Runes) were consistent in the examples he studied--- However, I was only offering his theory as an another example to consider as a POSSIBILITY. Of course it is not proof, just something else to consider.

  • @douglemay7989

    @douglemay7989

    Ай бұрын

    @@thearchaeologistslaborator6591 He is the definition of fringe.

  • @jimspear3033

    @jimspear3033

    Ай бұрын

    America unearthed series, is what you are referring to.

  • @michaelheurkens4538
    @michaelheurkens453818 күн бұрын

    Every "expert" never even mentions the possibility of Vikings sailing through Hudson & James Bays, whereby accessing interior lakes and rivers well into what is now Canada.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    16 күн бұрын

    Yes, I forgot to mention that one. It's the theory of author, Farley Mowat, but he based it largely on the assumption that the "Beardmore relics" (a Viking sword, axe and possible shield handle) were a genuine find in northern Ontario. However, the son of their "discoverer" later testified, in a sworn statement, that his father found the relics in the basement of a house in Port Arthur formerly occupied by a Norwegian immigrant, and that he witnessed his father plant them at the site where he later "found" them. On the other hand, there is pretty good evidence that Vikings in Greenland travelled up Greenland's west coast and among some of the islands in what is now Arctic Canada

  • @loke6664
    @loke666429 күн бұрын

    To be fair was the dating on the Kensington Runestone in use in one place in the 14th century, Gotland. But that said, there are a lot other strikes against the stone so unless archaeologists actually find some viking artifacts in the area, we still have to see it as a hoax. As for the other stone, I don't think it is a hoax but neither is it a real viking artifact. Runes were still in use in Sweden by farmers until WW1 so I think some Swede made it just because he could, not to fool people but more as "tagging" the stone. Yeah, the Hälsinge runes was different so he clearly had some education or a reference book but I still think it was made just for fun. It isn't correct, the most modern Scandinavian runestones with the old Futhark who also had modern runes are the Rökstone from the late 9th century, but it was made by a master who didn't mix them in the same sentence or made any mistakes. He was clearly showing off, it have several secret coded messages and has far more text then even the Kensington stone. It also have the name of the person who made it, to show off that he knew both runescripts. But for a pre Columbian visit to US after the Native migrations way back, the vikings are indeed the only plausible people. For one thing we know they got to Canada and had the means to get to US as well. The Greenland vikings were also "quarantined" on Greenland so they didn't bring those 12 diseases that wiped out 90-95% of the native population during the 16th century. So I don't think we can say it is impossible they actually reached modern US but we don't have the actual evidence for that and until that actually are found, we should still think that is unlikely even if we certainly should keep looking. The only evidence we actually have is the Maine penny which is real but since part of a viking scale and a few lead weights for trade was found in Canada, it is way more likely that one was traded for furs by a viking trader in Canada and later was traded further by natives then actually dropped in situ by a viking. It is still evidence though unlike the rune stone, it is extremely unlikely that a modern Norwegian immigrant brought a 100 year old to coin just to drop it there or that it is a hoax. But it is more evidence for some trade between natives and vikings then vikings actually visiting America. There is only one other proven pre Columbian contact, between Polynesia and South America. There is actually genetic evidence for that as well as the sweet potato but there seemed to have been a single or maybe 2-3 times event. Just like the vikings, the Polynesians were isolated on islands before which stopped the spread of Euro Asian diseases. That is why the Romans and Phoenicians couldn't have visited. If they did, a lot less people would have died in the 16th century due to diseases which allowed the Spanish conquest. That would have changed world history a lot, not just the history books. I am still hoping for new archaeological viking finds in North America. We know they were in Canada so there must be more out there, just waiting to be found. US is far more unlikely, but the evidence there needs to speak for itself. Right now, besides the Main penny, there is not a single good evidence though so I am leaning towards them not visiting until new evidence prove otherwise.

  • @johnking6252
    @johnking6252Ай бұрын

    Don't know why but the whole subject of this podcast makes me consider the plight of the half-breed throughout history in its many different configurations , don't know why? Thx. for the fodder. 👍

  • @m.asquino7403
    @m.asquino740327 күн бұрын

    Have you checked out Dighton Rock, on the Taunton River Massachusetts? Those symbols look familiar

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    21 күн бұрын

    Dighton Rock almost certainly is an indigenous petroglyph. The symbols on it are not any form of writing, even though some colonial observers tried to argue that it was runes or Phoenician or even Chinese. It doesn't match with any of those.

  • @kwd3109
    @kwd3109Ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed your video. As a working man with an interest in the past I've always been curious about these rune stones and whether they're authentic or not. I've watched the history channel and various youtube videos which seem to lean towards they're being real. Your channel presents straight forward scientific facts that I wasn't aware of and prove that these stones are fake.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    29 күн бұрын

    Thanks! I'm glad you found it convincing, despite all the publicity on the other side.

  • @DEATH-THE-GOAT
    @DEATH-THE-GOATАй бұрын

    A Swede here, we are spoiled rotten with rune stones here in Mälardalen. Interesting to hear about rune stones found in America and good that the counterfeits are being exposed. AVM 2024

  • @brokendad2222
    @brokendad2222Ай бұрын

    As a native Oklahoman I have believed for years that the runestones located here most likely have to do with the discovery of the Spirio mounds. There was a considerable amount of sensationalized news reports at the time. Popularity often causes frauds.

  • @AllenSymonds

    @AllenSymonds

    Ай бұрын

    "Spiro" Mounds. In the 1970's the Daily Oklahoman attributed it to a Swedish railroad worker in the 1890's.

  • @dominicd7610

    @dominicd7610

    27 күн бұрын

    Didn’t they find a Keltic bull carved in a rock in the Arkansas a while back during a drought?

  • @Green.Country.Agroforestry

    @Green.Country.Agroforestry

    25 күн бұрын

    The few artifacts from the mound at Spiro that did not get spirited away by private collectors (we do have a few photos) date from before the invention of Futhark, and there was not an attempt made by the company that opened up the mound to suggest that they were not exactly what they seemed to be: Relics left by the indigenous people of the region. You have to take what you read in the Daily Oklahoman with a grain of salt .. they were the rag that published the story about Dick Rowland "about to be lynched" following a misunderstanding on an elevator with the operator, Sarah Page .. leading to a race riot that destroyed the Greenwood District in Tulsa, and cost 80 people their lives - rioters included. The paper removed the story from its archives afterwards. If anyone finds a copy, please send it _carefully_ to the Jazz hall of fame museum in Greenwood (Tulsa), where artifacts relating the event are kept. Thank You.

  • @brokendad2222

    @brokendad2222

    25 күн бұрын

    Completely agree on the Gaylord family. They do not act unless it is to their benefit.

  • @Escape_The_Mundane
    @Escape_The_Mundane25 күн бұрын

    Mississippi across ocean from north africa. 4000 miles away. Fun fact: this is much later but my grandma's family was from germany. She lived near denver, Colorado for a little bit. The French normans could speak Latin, old Norse,, old Norman French. Maybe the runes were left later by Spanish, Italian, or French scholar.

  • @user-vw9gy4ze5l
    @user-vw9gy4ze5l21 күн бұрын

    I read a book while in the Iowa,Wisconsin area that spoke of stones with holes used to tie up boats. It claimed to be Viking. Now there is no water anywhere nearby.???

  • @oliversmith9200
    @oliversmith9200Ай бұрын

    Hi. I watched from Norman Oklahoma. I've doubted those two rune stones and it's nice to have the particulars as to the script's massive rune errors. Nice.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the positive feedback!

  • @kwhulcher8421

    @kwhulcher8421

    Ай бұрын

    "to the script's massive rune errors" There are no errors, six elder futhark & two Younger short twig rune letters dated carving to mid-late 8th century. There are writings attributed to a monk Bernhardt of Aachen saying he chesiled them Oktober of 785 while on an expedition of Scandinavians searching for iron ore but they did not find any. There is a Spiro connection according to Bernhardt's writing.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    Do you have a source for this Bernhard of Aachen? I've never heard of him, can't find anything about him online or in my university's extensive library.

  • @kwhulcher8421

    @kwhulcher8421

    Ай бұрын

    @@thearchaeologistslaborator6591 You should focus on removing this embarrassment of a video and doing some actual research before attempting another. More effort has been put into making the cover than what's in it.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    But still no source for Bernhard of Aachen? Apparently I'm not the one who hasn't done his research.

  • @billjenkins5693
    @billjenkins569327 күн бұрын

    I think that the Northern native game of Lacrosse actually came from Scandinavian influences

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    21 күн бұрын

    I've never heard of that. You have sources for it? Strikes me as just another case of trying to deprive indigenous people of their rightful heritage. The first European to mention the game was the French Jesuit missionary, Jean de Brébeuf, who observed it in what is now Quebec or Ontario

  • @PublicRecordsGeek
    @PublicRecordsGeek26 күн бұрын

    The era when these Runes were discovered are also hot in the middle of the Residential Schools as an institution and the motive of undermining indigenous claims on the continent.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    21 күн бұрын

    You're quite right.

  • @wafflegear
    @wafflegear28 күн бұрын

    buddy i'm sitting on the megaliths and looking at castles where i was told there'a just teepees and wigwams, somebody had geo polymers and rune work here

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    21 күн бұрын

    I'm not sure what your point is. However, 1000 years ago, indigenous people in the Mississippi Valley were building huge, pyramid-like mounds but had no need for geo-polymers

  • @WilliamCollins-sh6lm
    @WilliamCollins-sh6lm24 күн бұрын

    Who took many thousands of tons of copper from mines in N.US an S.Canada way back in BC times ???

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    21 күн бұрын

    This isn't strictly relevant to the topic of this video, but there is a lot of evidence for indigenous exploitation of copper in the Lake Superior region from about 4500 years ago onward. You can find a brief introduction to it on Wikipedia and elsewhere by searching on "Old Copper Complex".

  • @user-vw9gy4ze5l

    @user-vw9gy4ze5l

    21 күн бұрын

    Maybe the Vikings used the copper deposits also.

  • @jimspear3033
    @jimspear3033Ай бұрын

    Roman coins wash ashore near beverly Massachusetts. The dates are within 25 years of each other around 25 bc. Also the roman artifacts found near tucson. On isle royal in michigan native copper is still sitting on timbers dated as old as 1200 bc. The mining tools came from nova scotia. Seems like proof of european contact to me.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    Do you have any sources for any of these? I know Roman coins and pottery show up in coastal areas periodically, probably most of them originating in ships' ballast, and, hard as might seem to believe, Roman coins even circulated in colonial times because merchants were so short of small change, but I've never heard of any Roman artifacts being found in Arizona. As for the native copper, indigenous people were exploiting it well before 2000 years ago, and had no need of European technology to do so. There are rich sources of native copper around Lake Superior, and all you have to do is hammer it and anneal it periodically to form it into sheets, tools, or arrowheads.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    OK, I've now found a reference to those "Roman" artifacts from Arizona. I know nothing about them, so certainly can't weigh in on their authenticity, but the following site says that they're all forgeries: www.library.pima.gov/content/romans-allegedly-in-tucson/ I know that doesn't mean much without supporting evidence, but it would be useful to look into it. Spectacular claims require particularly compelling evidence.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    And now, this one says that there wasn't even any pottery or other mundane artifacts at the site that could have lent it some authenticity, just the more spectacular lead artifacts: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucson_artifacts There are sources there.

  • @dieterschonefeld7428
    @dieterschonefeld7428Ай бұрын

    The "experts" talking here are very well-studied in a solely theoretical way and therefore classify their own guessing as the only really relevant. The Futhark was for making markings of a clans ownership in use until 1780 in rural Sweden. People in those days learned runes as kids often before they came into school. That disappeared after some generations because it was not considered modern. All this is not common knowledge on USA universities, and what "experts" from those guess(conclude) is mostly just "made official" ..........!

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    21 күн бұрын

    I don't doubt that many Scandinavians in the 19th century knew some runes, and wouldn't be surprised if they sometimes used them as ownership symbols, something like ranch brands. But those would entail just one or two runes, not whole sentences, let alone long narratives like the Kensington one. Even in Sweden, you don't find runestones like that. These ones look a lot more like someone's idea of a hoax.

  • @user-rh5eh1ur2e
    @user-rh5eh1ur2eАй бұрын

    The Tunes, on the 90 foot stone, on Oak Island !

  • @user-rh5eh1ur2e

    @user-rh5eh1ur2e

    Ай бұрын

    Runes

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    As I understand it, those aren't runes; they're a sort of code (letter substitution) and the words are apparently in English.

  • @user-rh5eh1ur2e

    @user-rh5eh1ur2e

    Ай бұрын

    Sir, just a couple of weeks ago, on the Oak Island show, they identified several characters/symbols from the 90 ft stone as Viking Runes. But there are many others , most , which are still unidentified.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    I've looked at those, and you can clearly see that they're not runes, that they match up with our alphabet as a letter-substitution code, and that they're in English.

  • @conorvaughan9870
    @conorvaughan9870Ай бұрын

    great video thanks ❤

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the nice feedback

  • @citomp1240
    @citomp1240Ай бұрын

    Why didn't they carve a date? Did they carve dates on any of the proven and confirmed carvings? Did Vikings even have a calender?

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    As I mentioned in the video, whenever they did indicate a date on a runestone (and that was rare), it was the regnal year of a king. They did have calendars, but most Europeans did not begin to use Anno Domini dates until about halfway through the Middle Ages

  • @kwhulcher8421

    @kwhulcher8421

    Ай бұрын

    Post Viking era, the Battle of Visby Gotland was 1361. One year before the Kensington runestone date. Rune letters used on Kensington are found on Gotland Island.

  • @jeffreyrobinson3555
    @jeffreyrobinson3555Ай бұрын

    Uhm this has to be fake because I don’t like it…. Huh? Except for some iron tools a Viking kit would be woolen, skin and wood, only preserved after centuries in special conditions. A small group, twenty or thirty men are unlikely to to have left much and what they left would be hard to preserve and then even unlikely to be found.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    You bring up a good point that an exploring party might be traveling light and might not leave a lot behind. But then you have to ask why they managed to leave so many inscriptions on stone, which would have required hammers and iron chisels, and some of the latter were bound to wear out and get discarded. They would also have had steel weapons, whetstones to sharpen them, and probably equipment for cooking their meals. Generally, inscriptions are among the rarest type of artifact archaeologists find, and here they're the ONLY type of artifact. If true, it would be a major anomaly.

  • @jeffreyrobinson3555

    @jeffreyrobinson3555

    Ай бұрын

    @@thearchaeologistslaborator6591 when you have experienced woodsman/seaman on an an exploration I doubt one would see much lost tools. I trekked from grand junction co to ft Bridger Wyoming over a six week period, and I don think I lost any part of my cache of supplies. Have we found an artifact from Lewis and Clark, or Pike? Jed Smith and Joseph Walker led several expedition across the Great Basin and the Mojave but I don’t think we found any artifacts from them, or Coronado two centuries earlier Even if a small party had people who didn’t take care of their stuff what are the chances of finding something they lost, and making this lucky find attributing it to Vikings If amateur Joe the guy looking for arrowheads finds a Viking arrowhead in iron, what will he think. Viking or eighteenth century trade point. Even pros could be fooled by the similarities To have made the stone would have required chisel ( one) and any group would have had several hammers….. and the need to not lose them Remember, although we have some very nice whet stones, they infact grow wild. And a chisel wouldn’t wear out in normal use over the active life of the user, provided he took care of it.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    You have a point about Lewis & Clark, etc., but then we also have less information about exactly where they camped, despite the pretty good documentation of their journeys. The difference is that the rune stones, if they're real, would show exactly where the Vikings were, and you might expect something, if only a hearth and some discarded animal bones, to be there.

  • @jeffreyrobinson3555

    @jeffreyrobinson3555

    Ай бұрын

    @@thearchaeologistslaborator6591 they would only make a hearth if they were staying How many bones from Indian sites are there from nomadic tribes. A village is one thing Bones thrown from a campfire are probably not going to be preserved. Unless burried in mud or crud in a cave bones don’t keep well. The stone was a marker for a claim, but the band leaving it was small and on the move

  • @jeffreyrobinson3555

    @jeffreyrobinson3555

    Ай бұрын

    @@thearchaeologistslaborator6591 Think about Drake and the Golden Hind. He made several stops along California coast, left a copper plate claiming California, new Albion he called it. But we have never found the plate or an sixteenth century European artifact from California Think of a band who could have left the Kensington rune stone Small, moving fast, camping only over night, fishing and killing some deer. A month and first rain storm their camp fire is gone, deer and fish waste left on the ground is cleaned up quickly

  • @HandyMan657
    @HandyMan657Ай бұрын

    Everything we think we know about the history of this amazing planet is all conjecture. All of it. And it was not made by a supreme being in 6 days. FFS

  • @shable1436
    @shable1436Ай бұрын

    Scott wolter says so much garbage for TV, he is the quintessential sellout. The runes he swears about are fake, and his know everything attitude is disgusting. He has tainted this subject for many ppl by a network making him some authority on it.

  • @mikebryant614

    @mikebryant614

    25 күн бұрын

    Agreed, he has sold out his credibility to be a TV personality and on the "History Channel " of all places which is noted today for " I saw BigFoot" and "aliens Did it " programs rather than serious history .they were good 15-20 years ago but have gone to hell since.

  • @gradyratliff2034
    @gradyratliff2034Ай бұрын

    Templars...often....encrypted.....w.....runes......

  • @shanefelkel9966
    @shanefelkel996629 күн бұрын

    Yeah, if you want to find Vikings in the new world, look no farther than Americans themselves. We are the true vikings. Still kicking A and taking names in 2021 Anno Domini.

  • @kesselparsecs7841
    @kesselparsecs7841Ай бұрын

    The Vikings knew how to mine and forge Iron into weapons. It's funny that if they were here, none of the Indians living around them picked up the skill or possessed any iron knives or jewelry

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    Although picking up that particular skill wouldn't have been all that easy, there is abundant evidence that, as soon as French, English and Dutch fur traders arrived on the scene, European copper, brass, silver, and glass artifacts began to show up at indigenous villages even hundreds of miles away from where the European outposts were. That didn't seem to happen as much in the case of the Norse settlements in Greenland and Newfoundland, but some Scandinavian artifacts did end up in some communities in the eastern Arctic but, so far at least, not farther inland.

  • @GilObregon-hj6zh
    @GilObregon-hj6zhАй бұрын

    What do you know about Erik the Red's (alleged) visitation of America? You probably don't believe that ever happened either, right?!

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    There is abundant evidence that Erik Thorvaldsson founded an early (the first?) settlement in Greenland, and that his son, Leif Eriksson, led an expedition to the northeastern part of North America. Archaeologists have found the site, L'Anse Aux Meadows, in northern Newfoundland that the Norse founded shortly after that. The difference here is that there's both near-contemporary historical documentation and strong archaeological evidence for the Norse activity in both Greenland and Newfoundland, including actual houses and ironworking facilities, and also a little artifactual evience in the Canadian Arctic. There's nothing (so far at least) comparable in the Mississippi Basin.

  • @jolenajade

    @jolenajade

    Ай бұрын

    @@thearchaeologistslaborator6591 The evidence of the colony at L'Anse Aux Meadows is in no doubt whatsoever and is now a UNESCO World Heritage site.

  • @GilObregon-hj6zh

    @GilObregon-hj6zh

    Ай бұрын

    @@thearchaeologistslaborator6591 I advise that you at least investigate what some Swedes (and Norwegians) have historically believed about the validity of visitation of North America proper by Erik the Red. Do you have any Swedish contacts who you can utilize to begin your "exploration"? (no need for a reply to my query)

  • @gorillaguerillaDK

    @gorillaguerillaDK

    Ай бұрын

    @@GilObregon-hj6zh I’m very well connected to the environment of heritage exploring in the Nordic Countries, (I'm from Denmark but have close family ties to Norway, the Faroe Islands, and Sweden), and this is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone express the idea that Eiríkr "hinn Rauði" Þórvaldsson traveled to America. His sons and his daughter definitely did! Can you tell me where you came across this idea? Are there any valid written sources I can explore?

  • @GilObregon-hj6zh

    @GilObregon-hj6zh

    Ай бұрын

    @@gorillaguerillaDK I will have to get back to you. But for now, I will just note that it may be some Danes -- may not be some Swedes (as I stated) -- who believe that "Erik" reached America before his son did. Also, I do not personally know of any written materials regarding the subject.

  • @trackerwyo2640
    @trackerwyo2640Ай бұрын

    You can't even say the names of the towns right and you are college edocatad if you get my point

  • @jfu5222

    @jfu5222

    Ай бұрын

    Your post is riddled with spelling, punctuation, and typing errors, if you get my point.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry if I mispronounced names like Poteau. As a Canadian, we tend to pronounce French placenames in a way similar to a French pronunciation, not an American one, and I'm not from Oklahoma. In any case, we all make such mistakes, and I would not expect most Americans to pronounce names in Quebec or France correctly either.

  • @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    @thearchaeologistslaborator6591

    Ай бұрын

    As I didn't have much text in the video, I presume you're referring to the captioning, which is done automatically by KZread's AI, not by me.

  • @citomp1240
    @citomp1240Ай бұрын

    If Musk ever colonizes Mars the first discovery will be a Viking long boat. And nearby will be some trash containing an empty bag of pork rinds, and empty beer can and an used condom.

  • @douglemay7989

    @douglemay7989

    Ай бұрын

    Why wait? He should go now and search.

  • @citomp1240
    @citomp1240Ай бұрын

    How did they navigate against the current with a glorified row boat that far up the Mississippi?

  • @jolenajade

    @jolenajade

    Ай бұрын

    Those "glorified row boats" were more than capable of crossing the North Atlantic and were designed with a low draft to sail up rivers

  • @gorillaguerillaDK

    @gorillaguerillaDK

    Ай бұрын

    While I don’t necessarily believe they were there, you’re talking about "glorified rowing boats" that not only could cross the Atlantic Ocean, but also the rivers of Europe. This includes all the way through Eastern Europe and down to the Black Sea! They were also known to sometimes pass stretches of land pulling their ships. Not far from where I currently live, we have a couple of smaller peninsulas and an island where it was common practice to save time from sailing around…

  • @kwhulcher8421
    @kwhulcher8421Ай бұрын

    This Archaeologist's Laboratory video is inaccurate clickbait. He doesn't even know which letters are what form of Futhrk and claims one is backward on the Heavener Runestone. Can bet he has never been there. He is simply clueless hustling clickbait money.

  • @MrARhodes
    @MrARhodes29 күн бұрын

    Ibree. Mic-Mac. The Norse/etc. weren't the only ones utilizing Futhark. 🫡