It's pretty sweet. - LSV, on Tough Cookie. It all built up to this.

@ekings2119

10 ай бұрын

It was funnier to me that Marshall didn't catch it. haha.

@caseycrowe3805

10 ай бұрын

How about “pie in the sky” when they were talking about Gallant Pie Wielder? 😂

4 hours of content… thank you guys for all the work you continue to do for the community

@mmik9683

10 ай бұрын

I was worried i was going to blow through it too quickly and then i saw the time stamp.

LSV calling Tough Cookie "pretty sweet" and nobody reacting to it killed me

@caseycrowe3805

10 ай бұрын

How about “pie in the sky” when they were talking about Gallant Pie Wielder? 😂

So a Savannah Lion 30 years later is now a cheeky house mouse... story of my life, squeaking by.

Hope the cat is ok Marshall, thanks for doing the good work with magic.

21:30 for the celebration mechanic, you are forgetting that creatures that ETB make a role create the two permanents required.

@Sipulih

10 ай бұрын

I think Celebration also counts the card itself right? So as long as you play any other permanent with the card it triggers too?

@sethc.1366

10 ай бұрын

Also almost every saga creates a permanent when it enters!

Ah..... I really missed this show. Red aggressive cards getting a D, random blue minimal value cards getting C+, just classic Marshall and Luis. Love you guys.

13:00 At the explanation of Roles, its important to note that a creature can have more than 1 role. The limitation is that a creature can only have 1 role per controller. In a two-player game, that's 2 roles max. Commander sees 4 roles max.

@yellowchair8450

10 ай бұрын

only one per creature from each player. You could see plenty in 2-player game, as long there are enough creatures on the battlefield

@Pterrordon12

10 ай бұрын

@@yellowchair8450 I had said 'a creature can can only have 1 role per controller' I agree I wasn't clear enough. I wasn't proposing that there can only be one role on the Battlefield. I was specifically talking about that each creature can only have 1 role per that roles controller. Or: any creature can have max 1 role per player. One/each creature can have max 2 roles in a two player game.

@gattomeccanico6943

10 ай бұрын

bruh@@yellowchair8450 💀

@MsMollieMac

10 ай бұрын

The reason this matters for gameplay is that you cannot remove a Cursed role your opponent put on your creature by giving it a different role

For reference on celebration, through adventures and various tokens, Boros has 29 cards that can trigger it with a single card, 11 of which are commons

@EBurstyn

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the deeeets!

@rudeoldguy

10 ай бұрын

I was getting annoyed by how often they assumed that the only way to get celebration triggers was by double spelling, when there are so many cards that come in with a token (role, food, creature). I think it could be a lot better than they were giving it credit for.

Nobody’s mentioning that you can’t Bargain away creatures when you steal your opponent’s creature until end of turn. Really important part of the format to contextualize those cards imo.

1:08:15 Hamlet Glutton has the best flavor, it's so hungry it turns the things you bargain into food, so that's why you gain 3 life.

Remember that Enchanting Tales will be present in this limited, meaning enchantment removal may be main-deckable! Don’t want your opponent keeping that pesky bitter blossom

@ondrejbronec837

10 ай бұрын

There are even worse ones. Defense of the Heart for example can easily end a game especially in the 5 drop deck.

@kendelia9609

10 ай бұрын

I had the same thought about a million times during this review

@rutasel6726

10 ай бұрын

i dont really think so, atleast 80 % of that bonus sheet is either unplayable Fs or low impact playables only like 3 are amazing Bitterblossom, defens of the heart and goblin bombardement. Main decking enchanment removal for that seems quite bad.

@enricomassignani

10 ай бұрын

Break the spell is 100% maindeckable with all the roles floating around

@rutasel6726

10 ай бұрын

@@enricomassignani i think trading a card for a low impact token will make you loose alot of Games, just play more creature removal

Not sure if you realize this later or someone else said this but young hero triggers even if your creature has 3 toughness, making it way better, so if it’s a 3/3 it’ll still get one counter off it

"You block with your parents." A phrase I didn't know I needed until I heard it. Great video, always looking forward to these when a new set comes out.

These common & uncommon set review episodes are responsible for so many of my limited wins over the years. The single best bit of MTG content available for me personally. Much love LR team

Splendid! It's such a pleasure to watch these set reviews from such legends!

ill echo the "yall forgot the bonus sheet" remarks, and also add that some of the cards that will do well in gruul's power theme were undervalued imo as a result of similar forgetfulness

@Mordalon

10 ай бұрын

Just like the power theme, it was odd how Marshal kept forgetting the 5 mv theme in UG, saying some of the big expensive Blue cards had "no synergy", even going out of his way to list the mechanics of the set like Celebration.

"Heavy is the head that wears the vase" is such great flavor text. Flavor text team has been killing it this set

@switch788

10 ай бұрын

Card?

@Pelcurus

10 ай бұрын

​@@switch788Troublemaker Ouphe

@switch788

10 ай бұрын

@@Pelcurus thx

Black this set might have the best bunch of names in all of magic.

Oh yea!! New set reviews are always a good time! Enjoying the video so far thanks 😊

Can't wait to put the Young Hero role on that Merfolk Coralsmith. Keep paying to pump it below 3 health and keep getting the counters from the role. Will it work? Maybe, but I'm willing to try.

@Mordalon

10 ай бұрын

The role still triggers if the creature has 3 toughness, not just below 3.

@markbrierley6367

10 ай бұрын

Ooo good catch. Super unlikely, but I'm definitely going to try to get it to work.

Great Episode! I am glad to see you vibing, Marshall.

By far the best set reviewers on KZread! I looked forward to these!!!

Thank you both for the consistently awesome content 😁👍👍

Found out about the prerelease. Immediately came here. Thanks again guys!

Thank you, I've been looking forward to this! ^^

"You block with your parents." What a line.

Awesome, so happy this dropped

It's worth noting that the Virtuous Role is a Commander only role.

@MagicMetalMoney

10 ай бұрын

Thanks! I was so confused when they mentioned virtuous role.

I simply LOVE this channel - Marshall and LSV are my MTG heroes.

Just an exceptional review, I hope Marshall’s car is alright. Thanks for all you both do!

Thanks for great content! Helps me feel better when deck building on prerelease night and I can help my buddies with my leftover time

Oh, happy days! Always a gift to get an LR ep 😍

I’m amazed that this is 4 hours. Bravo 👏🏼

41:53 “Yeah, it’s pretty sweet” Delicious wordplay as always, LSV

You guys put so much pressure on the green common 5 drops for the UG 5+ cost deck, I'm really surprised you guys didn't mention how Into the Fae Court was also a common 5 drop for that deck

so excited for this set, thank you guys for all the insight and knowledge you give to the limited community

Really freaking good content set after set! Love your stuff

The Marsh Hulk and LSV still at it and giving so much to the community. You dudes are amazing.

Went 5-0 at my local prerelease thanks to you guys. Thanks for all the awesomeness and free advice you've put out over the years. Has made me a significantly better limited and constructed player. Won with RW celebration which is not that difficult to trigger it turns out.

Awesome video!

ive been hopeing your last 2 episodes would be this thank you so much im gonna reveiw this a few times be4 prerelease.

46:00 there are X cost spells that can be used at 5+ and ofc Adventures that are cheap to play early and lategame trigger the enchantment as well. It's much better supported in this set than in an average set.

Hope your cat is ok! It’s so hard when animals have health issues.

3:23:50 yes black destroys enchantments now, they thought is was odd that everything else only had one thing it couldn’t destroy while black had two. They made the change a few years ago and we’ve seen weak enchantment removal in black as it’s third in that area

Totentanz has a german name because the card references the Pied Piper, the old german tale about a rat catcher\whisperer

thats such indepth, thank you so much

Comment of support ❤

Stockpiling celebrant can get you back an Adventure permanent, so you can recast the instant/sorcery again. Can be very powerful!

i am impressed with them being able to possibly find a way to make auras actually good. by making them these tokens that are bonus add-ons to otehr cards, they've really sidestepped the biggest problem with auras. PRINCESS TAKES FLIGHT - yes marshall, i think you're supposed to bargain this thing away before ch.3, then it seems like a great card.

The Princess Takes Flight / Stockpiling Celebrant combo looks fun.

If theres ever a set to maindeck enchantment removal. This is the one

My guys, we have an entire 63 card enchantment sheet, many of which at the bomb level. We have one of the best pacifism versions of all time. Auras are a core mechanic of the set. And all the enchantment removal is getting crapped on left, right, and center. We're looking at a Mirrodin-style situation where your naturalizes are probably maindeck-able if not at a premium.

@trehenry413

10 ай бұрын

most of the enchantment sheet seems more for other formats though, with maybe a few are actually great in limited. Bitterblossom, for example, is great. Smothering Tithe not so much; but its a staple in EDH.

@bladdnun3016

10 ай бұрын

@@trehenry413 Almost all of the uncommons are playable, with more than half of them being quite good. About a quarter of the rares and mythics are bombs, the rest is mostly unplayable. Overall, I predict these cards will have a significant impact on limited and should be taken into account in a set review

@seasikberry7120

10 ай бұрын

Not to mention when they're talking about the +1/+1 for each enchantment as if roles are the only ones. And besides the bonus sheet there's plenty in the main set

@markbrierley6367

10 ай бұрын

I made a reply in another comment's thread that went into great detail. There's about 50 enchantments in the set worth removing. Some more than others and some are your own bad roles or bad Chapter 3s and some are game winning bombs.

Rare and Mythic show comin up? Opened some packs off a premium draft and realized I didn’t even know them

greatly undervaluing hopeless nightmare. Calling this as the most underrated card of the show.

@47Mortuus

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely insane card. The lose 2 life is pushing it over the top; that's a Shock to the face. At common also? Probably gonna be one of the top 3-5 commons in this set

SICK!

Best wishes to Marshall's cat ❤

1:44:00 On Stockpiling Celebrant-I played a pre-release tonight with a deck that had Cursed Courtier and Spiteful Hexmage. Very specific (and I didn’t draw the Celebrant) but it definitely felt good in the deck alongside those two and Hopeful Vigil

3 constants in life: Death and Taxes in Legacy, LRR Pre-prerelease, and Limited Resources set reviews

1:50:01 also helps for celebrations if you target a good etb creature of yours

41:53 "pretty sweet" for a cookie, don't think we missed it Luis 🍪

18:00 Johann can also cast Adventures Edit: in general, this set has lot of spell effect that are attached to creature (adventures, creatures that make aura tokens).

1:46:53 you can bargain it away. Same with curse and young hero and other roles. The set is full of your own enchantments you want to sac or kill. Idk if the one mana kill your own enchantment draw a card is gonna be playable, but if it is then that one also makes this work

@basiliaspice

10 ай бұрын

Nevermind you got it 👍

@enricomassignani

10 ай бұрын

The Demistify will draw a card if you kill one of your opponent's roles, too.

Thanx for this! really nice to see you go over all the cards and get a little better feeling for the set. With the evaluation of all the white cards you guys do seem to forget about the Celebration mechanic.... every card that puts two permanents into play (hopeful vigil, cursed courtier, return triumphant) has a huge upside in this strategy, it might effect the rating of those cards if that is taken into account.... especially hopeful vigil will be nuts in that deck. For The princess takes flight I could also see it be used to set up celebration by exiling a creature you own. seems like a cute way to get rid of cursed tokens on your own creatures (cursed courtier?).

@Weltinventar

10 ай бұрын

With rats, food, and roles, this set really seems geared to enable celebration

Love the content, hope your cat’s ok Marshall!

Hearing LSV saying celebration is probably hard to trigger then immediATEly sitting through the white 2&3 drops like "oh that triggers celebrate by itself", "oh that does too!" sent me into a fugue state. Set looks fun AND funny. Super stoked to greed out a bunch of dumb ramp decks and lose with four five+ drops in my hand for the next few months xD

1:33:15 - The scenario you failed to mention is when YOU make the alpha strike and then save all of your creatures when they try to make trades. Admittedly this is probably best out of sideboard in cases where your creatures match-up well in size against theirs, e.g., you both have a bunch of 2/2s.

@markbrierley6367

10 ай бұрын

I was thinking that, but there's a couple problems with that scenario. 1) It's telegraphed to the moon. There is this card and the trumpet blast that would signal a weird alpha strike so they'll play around it. 2) The spell will only save your guys; it won't guarantee kills. If your opponent makes profitable blocks you've turned this card into a possible burn spell that only hits the dome based on the power of your unblocked creatures while leaving you open to the crackback. That's not usually a card you would run. But yes, that's a way you could play it.

Stockpiling celebrant can bounce your cursed role tokens (I think a couple of creatures etb cursed) or save your stuff from the myriad of enchantment based removal. And it can recycle sagas- combos with Princess takes Flight very well since you can make the exile permanent. But it does seem to be pretty narrow.

Tough Cookie: LSV: ”that’s pretty sweet…”

Wasn't really really interested in LotR limited, so I've got nearly 13 drafts worth of tokens/coins/gems saved up. Pumped about how this set looks; hopefully it plays as fun as it seems.

Stockpiling celebrant is also pretty nice for reusing adventures and for getting rid of enchantment based removal. Not that y'all don't think about these things.

Hope your cat is ok, Marshall.

“Build around B” is a popular grade

Discerning financier also nice enabler for Celebration, has to be taken into account.

Flavor on cursed courtier is so good, also in addition to bargaining it the role can fall off if you can give it another role, then it becomes a 4/4 lifelink with another ability. Also triggers celebrate by itself.

@felity1773

10 ай бұрын

the risk of it being a 1/1 lifelink for 3 mana is a bit too high for my liking though ... don't think it's gonna be very strong unless you're going really heavy into bargain/roles

Tough Cookie - “Yeah, that’s a card” Marshall - “It’s Sweet” Luis - 😂

Just a quick note on Black's enchantment destruction. When it comes to destruction effects, Black gets cheap single creature destruction, expensive targeted enchantment destruction, no artifact or land destruction, and cheap sacrifice that can designate permanent types but leaves choice to the opponent. If you look at the enchantment removal, they all cost 4+ and are sorcery speed compared to Green's 1-2 mana instant speed enchantment removal. So not a color pie break, it's been available for a while, it's just slow, clunky and expensive.

Totentanz is german for dance of the dead. Funny how a german word made it on the english cards.

Will there be a Lotr sunset show?

clearly the enchantment that brings the thing back is clearly meant to be bargained

I really love the food theme in this set. It's so much fun flavor wise, and it's nice having something goofy and playable outside of an un-set. Eldraine design is just interesting

@Shadowkat0326

10 ай бұрын

Flavor-wise, you say? 😉

@AB-gn1ey

10 ай бұрын

@@Shadowkat0326 where have i placed my hyphen

@Shadowkat0326

10 ай бұрын

@@AB-gn1ey Oh, you didn't, I was just pointing out the pun.

@AB-gn1ey

10 ай бұрын

@@Shadowkat0326 haha wooosh

I am still waiting for the rares/mythics analysis :'(

Thank you for the video ! I think you didn’t mention the gruul archetype enough though compared to celebration

FYI, Tottentanz is German it means death dance. Edit: I posted this before I got to the part where Marshall looked it up. I will leave my comment here though.

About defensive combat tricks, it might be worth mentioning that Celebration decks will often play their stuff before combat, so offensive combat tricks might be a bit harder to play.

Great show as always. Not gonna draft this in paper though, sadly the sealed prices in Norway are getting way too expensive.

@krisdaschwab912

10 ай бұрын

Take a flight to Poland 😅

2 hr 48 i got your joke about fairy for ego drain LSV but it totally flew over marshall

I hope your cat gets better Marshall!

Return Triumphant is slightly better when you consider it triggers celebration by itself. You get two permanents that turn. Also, the creature would actually get pumped to 4 power.

I'm very amused by Hamlet Glutton, if you Bargain away a food it basically pays you the mana back it would've cost to "manually" eat the food. Very good design.

@AB-sw4kb

10 ай бұрын

Yeah the 3 life is from the food it's eating because it's a glutton

Combo Princess Takes flight with the stockpiling celebrant sounds nice

1:39:30 It looks like they didn't read the young hero role right. LSV says for the second time something like you'll get max 2 counters out of it, but since the text says 3 or less it should be up to 3 counters.

"Totentanz" is german and means: "Dance of the dead". "Killdance" (As marshall said) would be "Tötentanz" ("ö" is different to "o") and is kinda strange. I guess you could say so and a native speaker would understand you, but your teacher would mark this as wrong.

When they talk about the consistency of Celebration, I feel like they're failing to consider that creating tokens counts as nonland permanents ETBing. Once you realize how many cards come with a Role, Rat, or Food token, and you realize those cards trigger Celebration by themselves, it begins to look a lot more achievable to have Celebration on a regular basis.

@thade7062

10 ай бұрын

they got there in the end man you just had to watch until around hour 3 and 40 mins when they got to the red commons. They mention celebration will be pretty easy to turn on.

@iSmartMan1

10 ай бұрын

@@thade7062 Yeah, and they should have been familiar enough with the set before the review to not mislead listeners for 3 hours and 40 minutes

i think drafting a deck with like 4 hopless nightmares would be awsome. its a black shock that makes them bin a card. then u get to scry later value town...

Im not really a mtg expert but i can feel that bargain will be extremely powerful. I just see so many great fodder to sacrifice that it will be nuts. That 1 mana black discard enchantment is nuts.

@Blackadder75

9 ай бұрын

Went 7-1 playing 3 copies in my second draft, combine it with a white creature that bounces it or just general bargains

I can't believe you guys gave stockpiling celebrant a D, this card has so much potential with sagas and adventures

@richardrubert4552

10 ай бұрын

Judging a card by "potential" is always dangerous. I agree that most modern games of limited are just too fast to be playing around with things like this.

It’s dropped!

1:09:00 - When you bargain away a Food token with Hamlet Glutton, then it's like you are getting 4 extra mana.

@enricomassignani

10 ай бұрын

Very flavorful connection, I didn't see it

Does stockpiling celebrant combo with the activation for Cooped Up?