Let's put an End to this...Who REALLY Won? (Jon Jones vs Dominick Reyes)

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Let's revisit and put to rest, who really won in Jon Jones vs Dominick Reyes at UFC 247.
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  • @TheWeasleMMA
    @TheWeasleMMA2 жыл бұрын

    Which one next?

  • @MaNiC_IMPressivE_M.M.A.

    @MaNiC_IMPressivE_M.M.A.

    2 жыл бұрын

    Any there always dope

  • @reecepattison5351

    @reecepattison5351

    2 жыл бұрын

    Till vs wonderboy

  • @mmastuff1150

    @mmastuff1150

    2 жыл бұрын

    Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz 2

  • @labboyztv

    @labboyztv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nunes Shevchenko 2!!

  • @rodrigoortega1477

    @rodrigoortega1477

    2 жыл бұрын

    Henry cejudo vs Demetrious Johnson 2 would be a great one

  • @exveeex9153
    @exveeex91532 жыл бұрын

    Hope this becomes a series! Feeling the new ideas you're coming up with for the channel.

  • @TheWeasleMMA

    @TheWeasleMMA

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Yeah, this series is really fun to do too because it helps me realize who won these fights too.

  • @donovanchilton5817

    @donovanchilton5817

    2 жыл бұрын

    Big pig vs GSP

  • @sefer1377

    @sefer1377

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheWeasleMMA Great job, i hope you continue with this series.

  • @Mista.Sir.

    @Mista.Sir.

    2 жыл бұрын

    💯 Amazing content

  • @ayomideotukoya1731

    @ayomideotukoya1731

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree this was soooo interesting

  • @juanjosecarrete4037
    @juanjosecarrete40372 жыл бұрын

    Even Jones corner thought he lost. Their reaction at the end is clearly of a loss.

  • @nicolasgamant7389

    @nicolasgamant7389

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe one of the judge gave 4 round to jones .... WTF !!? did they picked Steve Wonder for the third judge ?

  • @nicolasgamant7389

    @nicolasgamant7389

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Jones need more money, because he almost made nothing paying the judges XD that wouldn't shock me coming from a guy who said repeatedly " i'll do ANYTHING To win"

  • @rickyaclickpowr2187

    @rickyaclickpowr2187

    2 жыл бұрын

    😎👍 that's right!!

  • @buzzardscry1383

    @buzzardscry1383

    2 жыл бұрын

    They knew he lost.

  • @deanivan3951

    @deanivan3951

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bullshit! They told him he needed that round and he kicked his ass. Go cry in the corner.

  • @jakem1021
    @jakem10212 жыл бұрын

    It’s sad to see considering where Dom is now. I remember watching the fight live I was certain that Dom won. Not even close.

  • @steelersnation1622

    @steelersnation1622

    2 жыл бұрын

    Reyes is a bum JJ the GOAT

  • @AdnanKhan-jn8dz

    @AdnanKhan-jn8dz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@steelersnation1622 Khabib is the goat he never lose a round let alone a fight

  • @niqowyd

    @niqowyd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@steelersnation1622 that bum pieced Jonny across the octagon for 15 minutes.

  • @steelersnation1622

    @steelersnation1622

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@niqowyd last i looked it said Reyes lost

  • @niqowyd

    @niqowyd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@steelersnation1622 judges make mistakes. Look at all the strike numbers for that fight and just watch it and tell me who won. Those first 3 rounds weren’t close

  • @jacktrevisan3382
    @jacktrevisan33822 жыл бұрын

    Gotta feel for Reyes. After that he’s not been the same and that last fight was brutal. He should’ve been champ but was robbed and it really hit him mentally he’s still a great fighter but just needs to take some time to recover and get a couple wins to boost his confidence. Hopefully he can at least get another crack at the belt he deserved to win.

  • @itsgeodoodz

    @itsgeodoodz

    Жыл бұрын

    I just commented something similar he doesn't fight with that hunger anymore like he's given up or something

  • @itsgeodoodz

    @itsgeodoodz

    Жыл бұрын

    He's coasting now, i dont think reyes wants to be champ hes happy being just another guy in the rankings

  • @joepace9716

    @joepace9716

    Жыл бұрын

    @The greatest to never live i don't think its that, the judges are just incompetent. you see it in non title fights and in no name fights all the time. Take off your foil hat

  • @hellofellowhumans9353

    @hellofellowhumans9353

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joepace9716 that’s literally how it is. Stop being a sheep

  • @joepace9716

    @joepace9716

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hellofellowhumans9353 the commission and judges are seperate from the ufc, they'd be massive fines and court procedures if it was exposed to not be that way. It goes both ways all the time, it's not worth trying to fix a sport when someone can get knocked out in seconds. Volk vs Holloway, max was more of a money cow than Volk yet he lost a fight most people thought he won. Give your nuts a tug. If it was fixed theyd be no point in following the sport. But no your right I'm a sheep for being able to use basic logic...

  • @bryanyau2001
    @bryanyau20012 жыл бұрын

    Someone tweet this to Jones to piss him off and watch him get petty lol

  • @adorablecheetah2930

    @adorablecheetah2930

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't say this publicly 😂

  • @xunsungwar77

    @xunsungwar77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jon Jones get angry easily. He don like people to say anything bad about him. Don post this online. if Jon Jones read this he is going to get upset.

  • @steveguy3

    @steveguy3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xunsungwar77 who wouldn't want Jones to be upset, he's a juiced up criminal

  • @xunsungwar77

    @xunsungwar77

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@steveguy3 yes. I agreed with you. Jon Jones maybe a bad bad human due to all those things he did in the past but don u agree everyone deserve a 36th chance?

  • @bryanyau2001

    @bryanyau2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xunsungwar77 wow that’s as many times as he said he would move up to Heavgweight😌

  • @slayer6155
    @slayer61552 жыл бұрын

    Before watching the video, “was it a robbery” absolutely 100%

  • @Sampsonoff

    @Sampsonoff

    2 жыл бұрын

    The weasel agrees

  • @donbilligatti3004
    @donbilligatti30042 жыл бұрын

    Last Two rounds should be counted more When my favorite fighters win them -Joe Rogan probably

  • @26michaeluk

    @26michaeluk

    2 жыл бұрын

    He actually said that after this fight so good call.

  • @ImSpun13

    @ImSpun13

    10 күн бұрын

    Yeah, go watch his episode with Rashad Evens…he literally said the last 2 rounds in a championship fight should count more. 😂

  • @xunsungwar77
    @xunsungwar772 жыл бұрын

    Guys there is a reason why Jon Jones left the LHW division. Look at what Reyes did to Jon Jones then look at what others did to Reyes. Jon Jones is done. And of cause he is also going to price himself out of all his heavy weight fight.

  • @Josh-on-journey

    @Josh-on-journey

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I've been saying this for months. Here is the chain of events: -Jones loses to Reyes. -Jones runs away from the rematch. -Jones is stripped of the belt. -Jones starts complaining he isn't paid enough and wants McGregor money. He used to be a great fighter that was good to his fans. He needs to get back to his roots if he wants to start making good money again.

  • @MrJadedGreen

    @MrJadedGreen

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Josh-on-journey He's been cheating since long ago and was either not tested, balanced out correctly, or just out and out got caught is how he used to be a great fighter. He's been a spoiled psychopath narcissist for longer and has never cared for his fans. Only those that kissed his ass by agreeing how good he is. He gets the bad publicity because he deserves it. He doesn't get paid because he doesn't deserve it. He has WAY more than he deserves.

  • @seanbrowne5770

    @seanbrowne5770

    2 жыл бұрын

    I disagree. Styles make fights and Jones Achilles heel is a fighter with long reach like himself. Jones probably would've dealt with the stockier power punchers far easier.

  • @MrJadedGreen

    @MrJadedGreen

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@seanbrowne5770 Jones 84.5 reach Cormier 72.5 -12 Cheated both fights and got caught. Stripped of title both. OSP 80 -4.5 Cheated. Got Caught. Gus 79 -5.5 (1) Decision. (2) TKO Stepped up PEDS cause he knew he had to. Smith 76 -8.5 Decision Santos 76 -8.5 Decision, but got his ass whooped by a guy with no legs and still had to be helped into the back himself. Santos walked out on his own. Reyes 77 -7.5 Lost. Still retained the belt though. In a fair, correct fight, Cormier would beat him 9 out of 10 times. (Longest reach disadvantage.) OSP wasn't good enough to beat him. Still cheated. (Least reach disadvantage.) He was cheating in Gus 1 and possibly lost that fight. Cheated harder in rematch to make sure it didn't happen. (Second shortest reach disadvantage.) Smith? Could go either way in a fair correctly done fight at any time. (Tied for 2nd longest reach disadvantage.) Santos destroyed his own knees, hurt Jones with leg kicks still, walked out on his own while Jones was helped out and to the back. Could have went either way. (Tied for 2nd longest reach disadvantage.) Reyes with the second longest reach disadvantage beat him. (But lost.) (3rd longest reach disadvantage.)

  • @seanbrowne5770

    @seanbrowne5770

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrJadedGreen tbf u could argue Jones just wasn't motivated for his later fights in the light heavyweight division. I dont think so I think the games just evolved and the competitions tougher. Still tho fair play for typing all that out it's very hard to disagree now🤣

  • @gingerspice2365
    @gingerspice23652 жыл бұрын

    It was tough seeing Reyes lose his first title defense.

  • @Venus-yt8dd

    @Venus-yt8dd

    2 жыл бұрын

    Robbery or not jones objectivally won, judges were doing their job so no.

  • @theonetypingthis7186

    @theonetypingthis7186

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Venus-yt8dd gifting a decision to the money cow is not really part of the judging job, at least not officially

  • @danielbaker1248

    @danielbaker1248

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Venus-yt8dd Jones did not objectively win. Sorry to destroy your delusion. And the Judges have been known to make awful decisions because they are, 99 times out of 100, not actually judging the fight based off of MMA standards (and not to mention they favor the current champ more because of the money factor).

  • @firstgivemearimjob.second8739

    @firstgivemearimjob.second8739

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Venus-yt8dd “so no”? The delusion lol.

  • @KerioFive

    @KerioFive

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Venus-yt8dd Jon loves you so much.. not

  • @ezeyzeke7701
    @ezeyzeke77012 жыл бұрын

    The weasle out here ending Twitter arguments

  • @noclipsbarrednick

    @noclipsbarrednick

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not really I'm still arguing that Texas has the old rules octagon control does count. I don't know how the weasle takes every single state rules into the account but when irs taxes he acts like he can just make up what rules they use.

  • @sclassmazoku7978

    @sclassmazoku7978

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noclipsbarrednick LMAO, If JBJ was controlling Reyes for even a decent amount of time then you could make an argument here. But, JBJ ONLY HAD 15 secs in this round (0 secs before this round), how tf are you gonna give JBJ the win just because of these 15 secs.

  • @ezeyzeke7701

    @ezeyzeke7701

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noclipsbarrednick in old rules takedowns played a huge factor even if u didn’t keep them on the ground but there was no successful takedowns from jones till the 4th and 5th rds

  • @blacksunday4231

    @blacksunday4231

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ezeyzeke7701 exactly, the takedowns happened in rounds everyone thought Jones won, but I keep hearing people bring up the takedowns, as if they were the difference in the fight. Everyone's argument for Reyes is that he won the first 3 rounds, so takedowns in the final 2 rounds are irrelevant. The third round is the debate in my opinion.

  • @firstgivemearimjob.second8739

    @firstgivemearimjob.second8739

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blacksunday4231 but not really though. WAS in debate but everyone who isn’t biased knows who really won that fight.

  • @lolly_bread
    @lolly_bread2 жыл бұрын

    I think the Light, Medium & Heavy damage weighting is important and if we attribute 1, 2 & 3 units respectively to those weightings, it totals to Jones=24 & Reyes=41, which really puts this round into perspective. Given that judging is under a lot of pressure for making awful decisions (and rightfully so in too many cases), maybe better technology can incorporated to consider damage weighting like Weasel has done. Even if it requires more judges and equipment I think it has merit.

  • @Getahelmet1

    @Getahelmet1

    Жыл бұрын

    Jon Jones was hospitalized after fighting gus the first time via stretcher and gus lost. Damage is vital for judging but popularity is more important in fight sports

  • @lolly_bread

    @lolly_bread

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Getahelmet1 Hmmm, on the face of it your "popularity" comment seems unlikely, but I kinda have to agree. As horrendous as it sounds that judges actually might put extra favour on "popular" fighters, it often perplexed me how Jones used to scrape by with decisions on many occasions including Santos, Reyes and probably even Gustafsson. At moments like those it had me wondering about bribes and shonky business. We have to remember this is Big business and Big dollars so preserving the championship status, or popularity, of certain celebrities (oops I mean fighters), makes good busine$$ $en$e. Over time, and particularly in recent years, the UFC have shown themselves to be a shady and underhanded cabal - you only have to listen to the endless complaints by top level fighters to know this, so it's no stretch to imagine they also have financial influence over some of the otherwise-poorly paid judges.

  • @chrisdinke271

    @chrisdinke271

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Getahelmet1 You can't beat a champ unless it's a tko/ko it seems

  • @1hit2hitown

    @1hit2hitown

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Getahelmet1 IT has nothing to do with popularity its all about vegas odds and sports betting. Whichever way makes vegas more money is the way the decision goes.

  • @SadBoys.1996

    @SadBoys.1996

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re a casual. Old unified rules. Under those, jones clearly won. Stop looking at this with the new unified rules. God I hate casuals.

  • @ollie311
    @ollie3112 жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe Reyes is now on a 3 fight skid man 205 is the most underrated division in the ufc

  • @simonscheideler4627

    @simonscheideler4627

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jon Jones left the division because he was scared.

  • @gavinma4831

    @gavinma4831

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simonscheideler4627 i don’t think he’s scared. He just wants the bag and was willing to fight ngannou which is honestly probably that worst match up for Jones.

  • @VDR2612

    @VDR2612

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simonscheideler4627 he's smart and imagine calling a ufc fighter scared of fighting

  • @emmanuelalva6597

    @emmanuelalva6597

    2 жыл бұрын

    205 is probably the most boring division.

  • @ethangarland8034

    @ethangarland8034

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@emmanuelalva6597 maybe if you have a mental impairment

  • @urcloned
    @urcloned2 жыл бұрын

    The weasles new series “ Who REALLY won “ lol love the content man

  • @jlang7705

    @jlang7705

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watching "Fake master" Sterling getting jacked by Yan for 4 rounds - now the guy acting like he's a champ - what a joke - making it seem like it was a close fight - LOL -

  • @seanhammer6296

    @seanhammer6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or more specifically "Who really won the 3rd round?"

  • @jlang7705

    @jlang7705

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@seanhammer6296 Reyes - round 1,2 - Jones - round 4,5 - 3.....? probably more of a tie - Jones gets the split decision - judges gave him Unanimous decision which is not correct - I still say Jones won that fight

  • @jlang7705

    @jlang7705

    2 жыл бұрын

    @VeeGeeCee #KeepTrollin

  • @EnigmaticPeanut

    @EnigmaticPeanut

    2 жыл бұрын

    This could be huge. Theres a lot of robberies in plain sights that happened, especially in boxing.

  • @lukeparnell742
    @lukeparnell742 Жыл бұрын

    Sad thing is Jon Jones would never admit it or even acknowledge it

  • @josegarza7719

    @josegarza7719

    6 ай бұрын

    Why would he? The company was on his side clearly. Jones is a beoytch

  • @954buggy
    @954buggy2 жыл бұрын

    Valentina vs Amanda 2!! Would love to see that weasel breakdown

  • @josephfino5066

    @josephfino5066

    2 жыл бұрын

    YES!!! Valentina won that one!!

  • @reg-hgsihkvlogz9586

    @reg-hgsihkvlogz9586

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!! Some real poor decisions in the women's fights same with JJ v Wheli in my opinion

  • @stevenminarik112

    @stevenminarik112

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! One round (I believe the 2nd or the 3rd) was clearly valentina’s yet one judge gave it to Amanda. If you look closely, Amanda appeared to land many shots, though she was missing. That judge might have missed that fact in real time.... and that judge’s one point coat Valentina the fight.

  • @HJules-cw6fb

    @HJules-cw6fb

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course. Just for sake of the series. We know the deal @TheWeasle

  • @June-mi9th

    @June-mi9th

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree, Val won. You can clearly see it in Amanda's Nose.

  • @taleofthetape7499
    @taleofthetape74992 жыл бұрын

    “I feel like those last two rounds should count more” -Joe Rogan

  • @MrDeftones122755

    @MrDeftones122755

    2 жыл бұрын

    “I feel like you can’t just beat the champ you gotta take it from the champ”- rashad Evans, that podcast showed how bias people are towards Jon Jones

  • @mr.ditkovich6379

    @mr.ditkovich6379

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Jan is getting outstruck and this is not the best opportunity for him to win" - Joe Rogan during Jan vs Israel

  • @marcoerbifori8683

    @marcoerbifori8683

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrDeftones122755 it's not false at the end of the day, Dominic was done after third round. But, yes, for the sport it was a robbery.

  • @nathanrudd2327

    @nathanrudd2327

    2 жыл бұрын

    The last round of a fight should count the most honestly, it's hard to say you won a fight after getting your ass whooped at the end of it, not saying Jones vs Reyes was like that at all. I'm just saying. Edit: actually read my comment, I clearly stated Jones vs reyes was not like that.

  • @kurthuber8665

    @kurthuber8665

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mr.ditkovich6379 when the striking numbers showed up and Jan was out striking Israel, I melted in my chair when Joe said that. There is no way there wasn’t bias involved.

  • @itsyoboigucci7578
    @itsyoboigucci75782 жыл бұрын

    I was so mad on that day and so surprised when Bruce Buffer announced Jon Jones as a winner cuz it was so clear that Reyes won that fight.

  • @hischam0698

    @hischam0698

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @SadBoys.1996

    @SadBoys.1996

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re a casual. Old unified rules. Under those, jones clearly won. Stop looking at this with the new unified rules. God I hate casuals.

  • @sunleo6161

    @sunleo6161

    Жыл бұрын

    Reyes def won

  • @killamazilla3835

    @killamazilla3835

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sunleo6161 nah he didn't

  • @xshv87ziiiii

    @xshv87ziiiii

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@killamazilla3835😂😂😂

  • @ChristopherRyans
    @ChristopherRyans2 жыл бұрын

    I've been with you for awhile just wanted to say congratulations on the channel and the views your getting on videos. It's got to be tons of work that's why I wanted to take the time out to say thank you and congratulations

  • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737
    @smittywerbenjagermanjensen47372 жыл бұрын

    Never forget that dom reyes changed coaches after most people think he beat JON JONES and has been koed cold in his last 2 fights since then

  • @takisk.7698

    @takisk.7698

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't know he changed coaches after the Jones fight.. interesting.

  • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737

    @smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@takisk.7698 yeah Jon anik said so as he was walking out for the Jan fight

  • @rvckyym

    @rvckyym

    2 жыл бұрын

    Damnnn damn damn

  • @rvckyym

    @rvckyym

    2 жыл бұрын

    He shoulda Been moving like max Ain broke dont fix it

  • @Charles-yf5bk

    @Charles-yf5bk

    2 жыл бұрын

    haha what he deserves. ungrateful shit his team got him there to begin with and he just gonna drop them because of one L

  • @DoncoEntAgain
    @DoncoEntAgain2 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see Nunes vs Shevchenko 2.

  • @atharali519

    @atharali519

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shevchenko won that one

  • @whipsor

    @whipsor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@atharali519 I was actually shocked when they gave it to Nunes and now Nunes acts like there's no reason for them to fight a third time. She's scared.

  • @bubba2711

    @bubba2711

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @atharali519

    @atharali519

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@whipsor don't get me wrong she is good but Valentina's better 😁

  • @xftbllplyr2091

    @xftbllplyr2091

    2 жыл бұрын

    You guys will unsubscribe when that comes out. The truth hurts, Nunes won

  • @jasonmalarchak3294
    @jasonmalarchak32942 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing. I really thought that night Jones lost 4-1... I disregarded that because I thought santos won as well and after rewatching, I realized I was wrong. I assumed this was just the same situation so I never rewatched. Thank you sir

  • @ProfessionalCurryDefender

    @ProfessionalCurryDefender

    9 ай бұрын

    Nah Jones clearly beat Santos

  • @mattyonjuul4692

    @mattyonjuul4692

    8 ай бұрын

    Chill out jones controlled the whole fight this guy said control means nothing that’s so cap ground control clinch control and striking control are all huge parts of what the judges look for so I say jones won 3-2 rounds 3-5 jones 1-2 reyes just for the striking cuz jones still had Reyes on his heels the whole fight he just kept movin back

  • @user-nw2fv5uk4u

    @user-nw2fv5uk4u

    8 ай бұрын

    Damage>all and reyes clearly did more damage

  • @Steven-jd3ey

    @Steven-jd3ey

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mattyonjuul4692 control means nothing, read the criteria (for the first time clearly). Effective striking and grappling with immediate impact over cumulative > effective aggression > octagon control. Control doesn't come into play unless the first two criteria are equal, which they clearly weren't. Reyes pieced up Jones and gave him his first actual loss.

  • @zombieepx1933

    @zombieepx1933

    2 ай бұрын

    id say round 2 and 3 were certainly close enough to go into secondary scoring criteria, reyes ran the whole fight. all 3 judges scored it in favor of jones, wasnt a robbery just an echo chamber of cope lmao@@Steven-jd3ey

  • @tonyc7301
    @tonyc7301 Жыл бұрын

    Dom won 3-2, and it isn’t really debatable

  • @naveenbance9514

    @naveenbance9514

    9 ай бұрын

    professional judges disagree with you 😂

  • @rambopack9140

    @rambopack9140

    9 ай бұрын

    @@naveenbance9514judges under the ufc boot, who benefits off jones 😂

  • @GrubKiller436

    @GrubKiller436

    8 ай бұрын

    @@naveenbance9514 One judge scored it 4-1 for Jones. We're not gonna pretend that the UFC judges aren't corrupt. They've made corrupt decisions numerous times in favor of their superstars.

  • @HeyAveon
    @HeyAveon2 жыл бұрын

    Nunes vs The GOAT Valentina 2. THATS the fight we need answers for!!

  • @dlilwon

    @dlilwon

    2 жыл бұрын

    You mean 3. Didn’t they already fight twice?

  • @HeyAveon

    @HeyAveon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dlilwon it's for what fight he should break down and see who really won. Since 3 hasn't happened, it cant be 3

  • @jdrobin1

    @jdrobin1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Valentina won the he second fight. The first is a toss up

  • @HeyAveon

    @HeyAveon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jdrobin1 I think Nunes won the 1st. She won the rounds 1 and 2, then Valentina dominated the 3rd round. But I think Valentina won the 2nd fight.

  • @djbriantalbot

    @djbriantalbot

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HeyAveon it's kinda like Amanda only has a chance when the settings are on "Easy"

  • @truthseeker96
    @truthseeker962 жыл бұрын

    GSP vs Hendricks next please 👍

  • @langvuong9892

    @langvuong9892

    2 жыл бұрын

    Juice head Hendrick deserved to get robbed.

  • @4kids555

    @4kids555

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@langvuong9892 like gsp is not a cheater

  • @benwyso810

    @benwyso810

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @GMPro24

    @GMPro24

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@4kids555 hes not?

  • @mezutzizu

    @mezutzizu

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@langvuong9892 .

  • @seanheaney8303
    @seanheaney83032 жыл бұрын

    These are the breakdowns we never knew we needed! Revolutionary idea man! This serious is going to be huge for your channel! Keep up the good work!

  • @zachcoleman3357
    @zachcoleman33572 жыл бұрын

    Great series man. This is style I haven't seen yet. You're pretty good man ;]

  • @GoddessLadyRei
    @GoddessLadyRei2 жыл бұрын

    Jones was my favorite fighter. Reyes won the fight.

  • @GapModel1

    @GapModel1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Reyes is my favorite fighter of all time and Jon is a cheater and a criminal. Jon won the fight.

  • @jimnosnow4484

    @jimnosnow4484

    2 жыл бұрын

    No way Reyes won the first 3 rounds

  • @HJules-cw6fb

    @HJules-cw6fb

    2 жыл бұрын

    My fav too. I thought it was close. I agree. There was so many misses from Reyes but he was a beast with output

  • @chrisriveraaa8668

    @chrisriveraaa8668

    2 жыл бұрын

    youre just saying that to make it seem like youre not choosing sides. theres a reason theyre called championship rounds. chael beat anderson for 4 1/2 rounds and at the very end he pulled through. you dont judge someone if theyre winning in the beginning.

  • @GoddessLadyRei

    @GoddessLadyRei

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisriveraaa8668First off Sonnon threw the fight with Anderson. I only did amature MMA. However I knew when someone was trying to use the triangle. You never let them move your arm across your body and you stack that ass. You don't pull away. Two Reyes kicked his ass and yes I loved Jon. Until the 3000th time he got busted for cheating and other drug use.

  • @calvynvanwyk1395
    @calvynvanwyk13952 жыл бұрын

    I remembered texting a friend of mine who was a big Jones fan in the 5th round that his boy had lost. Was so disappointed in this robbery man.

  • @nicholaslopez6384

    @nicholaslopez6384

    2 жыл бұрын

    What did your friend say when Jon won?

  • @calvynvanwyk1395

    @calvynvanwyk1395

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholaslopez6384 haha some shit like Jon wil never lose

  • @nicholaslopez6384

    @nicholaslopez6384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@calvynvanwyk1395 ahah savage ass

  • @zenithpath8707

    @zenithpath8707

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@calvynvanwyk1395 He wasn't wrong

  • @tmerchead1

    @tmerchead1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@calvynvanwyk1395 He wasn't wrong.

  • @Juel92
    @Juel922 жыл бұрын

    Arguably the biggest robbery in the sport considering the weight of the decision.

  • @DavidJames-uo9hr

    @DavidJames-uo9hr

    11 ай бұрын

    I think G.S.P vs Hendricks was. George got his ass kicked. At the post fight conference George looked like he got jumped

  • @SumthinFishy

    @SumthinFishy

    11 ай бұрын

    @@DavidJames-uo9hrlook where Hendricks and Reyes are now. Both weren’t the same after.

  • @ghostjason878

    @ghostjason878

    10 ай бұрын

    @@DavidJames-uo9hr gsp won the fight on control time the scoring criteria was much different back then

  • @joshuae4639

    @joshuae4639

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@DavidJames-uo9hr that was definitely not a robbery. You could easily see gsp winning. All though I think the fairest outcome would've been a tie

  • @Steven-jd3ey

    @Steven-jd3ey

    6 ай бұрын

    @@DavidJames-uo9hr GSP vs hendricks was A LOT closer than this. I think Hendricks won but you could make an argument for GSP. In this fight, Jones got beat up and clearly lost.

  • @jackgriffiths3662
    @jackgriffiths36622 жыл бұрын

    Hey man you definitely make this a series great to watch👍

  • @jimmyjameson8705
    @jimmyjameson8705 Жыл бұрын

    That's why Jones moved to hw... He was gonna lose his lhw belt soon.

  • @GrubKiller436

    @GrubKiller436

    8 ай бұрын

    He would've lost to prime Jiri. Jon Jones is afraid of the hungry wolves that climb the hill.

  • @prashant2840
    @prashant28402 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Lee vs Charles Who actually won ??? Kevin Lee was only appreciating the choke attempt of Charles by patting Charles on his back and those fools thought he tapped

  • @adarsh6519

    @adarsh6519

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @Anon-nv7bp

    @Anon-nv7bp

    2 жыл бұрын

    what about Masvidal/Askren? I saw Masvidal tap at least 3 times to a knee injury.

  • @prashant2840

    @prashant2840

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Anon-nv7bp Agreed Masvidal Tapped.

  • @clockworkman8210

    @clockworkman8210

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Srinaath Anbudurai chael pinned silva for the 3 count....damn judges screwed him lol

  • @chrisb3k1
    @chrisb3k12 жыл бұрын

    With the sport growing, and with mounting questionable decisions by judges, I think you could really make an impact with these kinds of videos. You've got the knowledge and background to really clear up for us these questionable decisions. I think you nailed the Holloway/Volk fight, just like you did this one... with clear video evidence. And you're so right, it's all about DAMAGE! And here's the thing: NO ONE is covering this topic in MMA right now! So good on you for doing the work, and just to reiterate: I really thing these kinds of videos could be hugely impactful for both the fans and the sport. Thank you.

  • @HondudeTeamMudhogs
    @HondudeTeamMudhogs2 жыл бұрын

    Henry vs DJ please. That one will take some time due to the takedowns and scoring “effective grappling”.

  • @Oldhandlewasabitcringe

    @Oldhandlewasabitcringe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still think dj was done dirty, not jusy from the decision but selling him off to one after and giving him no respect

  • @HondudeTeamMudhogs

    @HondudeTeamMudhogs

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Oldhandlewasabitcringe Ya I just felt like Henry got takedowns but didn't advance position, use any ground strikes or threaten submissions so his grappling was literally just to waste time. I thought Dj was gunna get the nod.

  • @markwatson5995

    @markwatson5995

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great suggestion

  • @Oldhandlewasabitcringe

    @Oldhandlewasabitcringe

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Rainbow Dirt so youre not a fan then?

  • @HondudeTeamMudhogs

    @HondudeTeamMudhogs

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Rainbow Dirt tell us how you really feel

  • @galacticmaui2
    @galacticmaui22 жыл бұрын

    Damage is hard to measure. Between placement, how much power the attacker generates, the ability to absorb shots by the defender mixed in with having or not having a good poker face it’s almost impossible to get an accurate idea of what’s happening in fights these close. You move a KO shots placement an inch and the results change even though it’s thrown just as hard. How many times have we heard fighters say after they were in all sorts of trouble after what wouldn’t appear to be a heavy shot with no one aware while on the other hand some fighters have taken bombs and felt little to nothing. This isn’t specific aimed at this fight but just in general.

  • @johnjohnsonstein8409

    @johnjohnsonstein8409

    6 ай бұрын

    Okay but he still landed more total strikes lol. And at 205, most punches are going to have a lot of power behind them

  • @garrisonturner3232

    @garrisonturner3232

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@johnjohnsonstein8409The last sentence of his comment said "this isn't aimed at this fight specifically."

  • @Ryan-sd4ir
    @Ryan-sd4ir2 жыл бұрын

    I like what you included after and broke down what could have been different in the UFC if the other fighter won. Keep doing that same thing after you break down the fight. It makes you think about it more

  • @saia24
    @saia242 жыл бұрын

    I still remember joe rogan saying "I think jon just lost the first 3 rounds" to immediately saying at the end of the match " I don't know who won?" Complete lies what a clown show

  • @alfiecoplestone7015

    @alfiecoplestone7015

    2 жыл бұрын

    prob due to the 4th and 5th being obvious it made him feel more 50/50. when i watched the fight i thought jones won because of the last 2 rounds and a close 3rd due to bias. not bias towards jones but bias that he won the 4th/5th.

  • @peergynt9852

    @peergynt9852

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alfiecoplestone7015 2/5 isnt 50/50 ffs

  • @alfiecoplestone7015

    @alfiecoplestone7015

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peergynt9852 to judges it may be. when 1 is obvs, 2 is obvs. 3 is somewhat close, but then 4 and 5 is obvs. it may cause bias

  • @peergynt9852

    @peergynt9852

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alfiecoplestone7015 its simple math dude

  • @Pwanx0w

    @Pwanx0w

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alfiecoplestone7015 The judges score it round by round, the score of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds are already written down when the 4th and 5th rounds begin. So no bias possible, just utter bs

  • @thistle_boy
    @thistle_boy2 жыл бұрын

    Before watching this, I'm commenting that Reyes won that shit.

  • @vonclaren1

    @vonclaren1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Damn right, we all know he did

  • @FoxUnitNell

    @FoxUnitNell

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vonclaren1 It would have been better for jon's career and the reputation of mma were they rightfully give the title to Reyes after the fight. It was a true underdog story against the greatest fighter ever whom loss the match he wasn't suppose to lose. That's a great narrative and shows the audience how effective mma is since the biggest odds of all sports was over came - but with Jones given the win, it just makes mma look cheap and populist; they are just trying to be mainstream and marketable rather than a sport and respectful to the martial arts that formed it with fair play and non biases.

  • @otallono

    @otallono

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FoxUnitNell or at least an immediate rematch. No one just gives a belt to their opponent. It still wouldn't be official.

  • @tdrivers1102
    @tdrivers11022 жыл бұрын

    Dude these videos are the best. So useful and informative

  • @jasonswof4048
    @jasonswof40482 жыл бұрын

    GSP vs Johnny Hendricks, do it, NOW!

  • @notjack113

    @notjack113

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bit different considering Hendricks was a drug cheat lol

  • @Mac_Raymond

    @Mac_Raymond

    2 жыл бұрын

    Johnny won that clearly

  • @saunajoe5973

    @saunajoe5973

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mac_Raymond no

  • @Cnut_the_grape

    @Cnut_the_grape

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@notjack113 yes he was, but this isn't a question of who would've won under better testing, this is a a question of who won when they actually fought.

  • @notjack113

    @notjack113

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Cnut_the_grape doesn't matter. Drug cheats should be booted out with their accomplishments stripped

  • @LT.CarterBlake
    @LT.CarterBlake2 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see Jones vs Gus 1, I always felt that Gus won the fight but after watching like 50 times out of pure enjoyment not actually analysing, I genuinely do think now that Jones won but I'd love to see it broken down by you Weasle

  • @WillPage

    @WillPage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great fight. definitely close.

  • @anonymouss7741

    @anonymouss7741

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah Gus lose and everyone that wanted Gus to win on a rematch thought he would destroy Jones if they fought again and Jones destroyed him even worse lol the second time 😂🤦‍♂️ And the only reason why it was close was because Gus was about the same height and reach which Jones never experienced before So he had to adapt pretty much to his own size

  • @laiwurofg1314

    @laiwurofg1314

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watched it after everyone kept saying that Gus won. I don't think he won at all, and I am by no means a Jones fan

  • @justinklenk

    @justinklenk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Kaicher Mung Yo, man, they're talking only about Gus vs Jones here, bro.

  • @zwryy7622

    @zwryy7622

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Kaicher Mung you don't even know the judging criteria LMAO

  • @CorruptOutcast
    @CorruptOutcast2 жыл бұрын

    Moral of the story: Pillow Hands Jones fooled the judges.

  • @angelsjoker8190

    @angelsjoker8190

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not even only pillowhands, he even had less landed strikes period. So even in point fighting, he would have lost.

  • @allenmk138

    @allenmk138

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most of Jones opponents hit harder than him, so just basing a whole win cause Reyes landed 3 more damaging shots is stupid. If the difference was 10 or more, then that's what you call a robbery. A close fight that comes down to one close round isn't a robbery.

  • @robbiesantos7677

    @robbiesantos7677

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@allenmk138 not to mention he had reyes backing up the whole fight. Giving the impression he's doing more damage.

  • @elyt777

    @elyt777

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't call this necessary a robbery, it wasn't one-sided. That been said, people kinda remember JJ from his earlier days when he beat Shogun, Machida, Rashad. But since the USADA, JJ has never been dominant. If u look at his record, since 2012 he got only one early finish. 8 years of 5-round fights in the 2nd heaviest division, no KO's. This is why Ngannou called JJ a "decision fighter". Only 1 sub over Gus. And those decisions weren't dominant either, this one lost to Reyes, a split decsion with Santos, & controversial 1st fight with Gus

  • @Harris4Guitar

    @Harris4Guitar

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@allenmk138 bro... reyes outstruck him across 5 rounds... wtf are you talking about? even if its a close fight, the dude who landed more and fought better should be the winner...

  • @Tajueko86
    @Tajueko862 жыл бұрын

    That's a great concept man!! Hopefully you'll do more of those, Gus of course but I'd like to see Thiago Santos Vs Jones as well.

  • @lenox4166
    @lenox41662 жыл бұрын

    The confirmation is much appreciated. Please keep this series going

  • @spacentime7
    @spacentime72 жыл бұрын

    Wow man. I’ve been watching your content for a while now and this is by far one of the funnest videos you’ve ever made. I wasn’t expecting for you to go Inception on our ass towards the end but that was awesome. And so was the analysis of the rounds. Great job, brother!

  • @F3RR3LL
    @F3RR3LL2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely do nunes vs Valentina 2, I’ve always thought Valentina won that fight.

  • @4Sim0n4

    @4Sim0n4

    2 жыл бұрын

    No she didnt

  • @Crasham1
    @Crasham12 жыл бұрын

    I love this keep doing this bro! Great job

  • @killamaniac57
    @killamaniac572 жыл бұрын

    These are so good TheWeasle!

  • @lewisgordon3958
    @lewisgordon39582 жыл бұрын

    Far and away the most blatant robbery I've ever witnessed live. It was so absurd and, frankly, disgusting.

  • @capalottyslimalini2878

    @capalottyslimalini2878

    Жыл бұрын

    You can’t judge a fight simply with strikes cuz Jones took shots but was never really hurt in the fight. Control matters, walking down the opponent, grappling, take downs

  • @sbakernyc5761

    @sbakernyc5761

    Жыл бұрын

    Biggest robbery is a stretch... GSP Hendricks was more aggregious for me

  • @davedanger4414

    @davedanger4414

    Жыл бұрын

    @@capalottyslimalini2878 Strikes DO matter MOST when scoring. Walking down opponents and being EFFECTIVELY aggressive are something to consider, but Jones was getting bopped while walking Reyes down, so that's not "effectively" controlling the fight. Plus, you can easily tell that the judging was poor based on one judge having it 46-49. It comes down to who won more rounds and Reyes won the first 3. I remember thinking Jones was going to run through him, too. The decision surprised the hell out of me. I couldn't believe it. That 49-46 might be some of the worst judging I have ever seen. One judge gave round 2 to Reyes and the other gave round 3 to Reyes. The UFC is notorious for bad judging, too.

  • @kwesietsibah2917

    @kwesietsibah2917

    Жыл бұрын

    @@capalottyslimalini2878 what are u talking about? The only that happened in the first 3 rounds is striking and Reyes clearly won in the striking department . He got robbed plain and simple

  • @onepunchflan3071

    @onepunchflan3071

    Жыл бұрын

    It was a robbery but not a huge one. Watch edson barboza vs Dan ige that was one of the worst ive seen. Even max holloway vs volk 2 was a bigger robbery than this one.

  • @darkghoul4049
    @darkghoul40492 жыл бұрын

    If I had my way, judges wouldn’t even be there and a ai that determines damage done with all possible calculations and spit out the winner. Fantasy land is awsm 😂

  • @passofar

    @passofar

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude lets do this.

  • @pstratos7

    @pstratos7

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like the ufc video game

  • @Apolloneek

    @Apolloneek

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but then they wouldn't even have fights just ai match ups. Unless they used alot of cameras and movement capture and review by humans in case of dispute that was scored by computer

  • @nicolasgamant7389

    @nicolasgamant7389

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll be more than ok with that ! It's a math game, feelings don't have their place here; and i quote one of the justes : "i gave the win To Jones, because he would have won, if there were a 6th round " .... WTF !!!

  • @nicolasgamant7389

    @nicolasgamant7389

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Apolloneek what the hell are you talking about !? I don't see how having an AI judging scores, would negate the need for the fighters To fight...

  • @T.W.I.E.A.I.L.F.W
    @T.W.I.E.A.I.L.F.W Жыл бұрын

    Not only did he give us a breakdown, but he also gave us an alternate timeline. This is why I’m subbed

  • @nickvantinteren9871
    @nickvantinteren98712 жыл бұрын

    I always thought it was the number of strikes and significant strikes basically tallied up, which has always outweighed damage in the judges' eyes. Hence GSP beat Hendrix, Bisping bear Silva, etc etc.

  • @Mista.Sir.
    @Mista.Sir.2 жыл бұрын

    Looks like this will be a new series , really hoping so love this content Weasle thanks fam 🤘🏽👊🏽

  • @Itzconr
    @Itzconr2 жыл бұрын

    Was wait for this, saw so many comments on the last video glad you made this.

  • @sagethemage7
    @sagethemage72 жыл бұрын

    Wow never saw someone breakdown fights like this, thank you

  • @JammyTom
    @JammyTom2 жыл бұрын

    I would love to hear a breakdown of Jon vs Gus. It's always educational to get your analysis

  • @keonihillier981
    @keonihillier9812 жыл бұрын

    WEASEL NEEDS TO BE AN MMA JUDGE

  • @reecepattison5351
    @reecepattison53512 жыл бұрын

    People that deny Reyes winning are hilarious Great video once again ❤️

  • @mikeyrandom2x

    @mikeyrandom2x

    2 жыл бұрын

    EXACTLY

  • @adcavenger1980

    @adcavenger1980

    2 жыл бұрын

    They are simps for jons

  • @seanhammer6296

    @seanhammer6296

    2 жыл бұрын

    If Reyes would've won he wouldn't have lost. But he lost, so therefore we can only determine that he did not win.

  • @Teddyisoffline

    @Teddyisoffline

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@seanhammer6296 is this ironic i hope if so good one

  • @kevo6463

    @kevo6463

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even if he did win how Is he doing now??

  • @robertshafer8968
    @robertshafer89682 жыл бұрын

    Dude you cram so much detail into 8 min it’s amazing.

  • @MarcraM82
    @MarcraM822 жыл бұрын

    these are very good, keep doing it

  • @juantirado8249
    @juantirado82492 жыл бұрын

    Wait you really did it lmao, i loved the Volk vs Max vid, and if this is a new series it would be great Btw i'd like to say a few interesting fights that you could analyse: Lawler vs Condit, GSP vs Hendricks, Rob vs Yoel 2, Nunes vs Valentina 2, Edgar vs Maynard 2, Benson Henderson vs Frankie Edgar 2, GSP vs BJ Penn 1, Thiago Santos vs Jon Jones, and Brandon Moreno vs Deiveson Figueiredo 1. I know that it's probably not easy to make this videos, but i'm proposing a few good ones to see if you're intersted in any of them and make a video at least of one

  • @jlang7705

    @jlang7705

    2 жыл бұрын

    I disagree with both Vids. Max won, and Jon won.

  • @WillPage

    @WillPage

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jlang7705 You think Jon won this fight? Seriously?

  • @jlang7705

    @jlang7705

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WillPage Not unanimous - but by split decision - yes - he won

  • @desertfox738

    @desertfox738

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can’t do Edgar vs Maynard III, Edgar knocked out Maynard in that fight lol.

  • @juantirado8249

    @juantirado8249

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@desertfox738 ohhh yes you're right, i forgot lmao

  • @imaXkillXya
    @imaXkillXya2 жыл бұрын

    Weasle will now be getting called out by the Pico Champ in the TFC(Twitter Fighting Championship) after watching this video.

  • @angelsjoker8190

    @angelsjoker8190

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hasn't PicoJones blocked him on Twitter¿

  • @bljet4388

    @bljet4388

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@angelsjoker8190 if he didnt, he will after he sees this

  • @angelsjoker8190

    @angelsjoker8190

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bljet4388 Yeah, Jones is quite sensible :D But I think Weasle mentioned once he got blocked by Jones, but maybe I'm confusing it with Derek from MorePlatesMoreDates who analyzed Jones steroid/PED usage.

  • @bljet4388

    @bljet4388

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@angelsjoker8190 shit i forgot derek made that video, gotta watch it again

  • @torianbelton8405
    @torianbelton84052 жыл бұрын

    Ryes did not win the 2nd round

  • @dviramsalem6608

    @dviramsalem6608

    18 күн бұрын

    thank you, it was close, but jones was pressuring him the whole time, reyes was fighting on his heels.

  • @savvaskhub9771
    @savvaskhub97712 жыл бұрын

    Please make more vids man. .I loved it....keep it up . ...

  • @dragostoma9033
    @dragostoma90332 жыл бұрын

    I really like this kind of content. You should do one for Till vs Thompson or GSP vs Hendricks

  • @KidbuuGODMODE
    @KidbuuGODMODE2 жыл бұрын

    Damn, I thought I was already subscribed to you and I had watch basically all your videos, SUBSCRIBE fight crew! ;) Keep doing you!!!

  • @benjaminbrozene
    @benjaminbrozene2 жыл бұрын

    Love the new series!

  • @timephire
    @timephire2 жыл бұрын

    Loving this new-ish series, can't wait for episode 3 of "Let's put an End to this..."!

  • @blacknap0le0n56
    @blacknap0le0n562 жыл бұрын

    Bruh, I love these videos of controversial decisions broken down by round! It's like the most objective way to consider the data and evidence before determining one's decision. I'd love to see Gustafson vs Jones breakdown! Well done!

  • @UncleBilly171

    @UncleBilly171

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your profile pic 🙌🏿

  • @goosenuggets9693

    @goosenuggets9693

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@UncleBilly171 What's so special about his profile pic?

  • @JumboTTV
    @JumboTTV2 жыл бұрын

    loved the butterfly effect at the end!

  • @bluefire5842
    @bluefire58425 ай бұрын

    So Reyes was the one that actually won, but in favor of jones they picked him. Jones was bigger, older and had way more fights. Jone 27-1,Reyes 12-4. Reyes was clearly the better man here.

  • @schmakyle649
    @schmakyle6492 жыл бұрын

    I initially thought Jones lost when I watched it live but then after watching it again I thought Jones won.

  • @Kwasimitsu

    @Kwasimitsu

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. People's desire to see him lose outweighs their clarity.

  • @BaconRecoil

    @BaconRecoil

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kwasimitsu he lost 3 rounds to 2 that he won. If my math adds up Jones lost more rounds than won, hence him losing the fight

  • @N1rOx

    @N1rOx

    2 жыл бұрын

    And after watching this?

  • @Jack_80

    @Jack_80

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BaconRecoil "but jones won the last 2 rounds. those are worth more, that's why they're called championship rounds." i actually saw people use this a lot. they obviously have no idea how scoring works and were admitting jones lost without even realizing it. if the last 2 rounds were worth more, you wouldn't see much action in those first couple rounds, they'd be conserving their energy for the lster rounds.

  • @schmakyle649

    @schmakyle649

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@N1rOx after watching this I could say Reyes won 3 rounds to 2 but Reyes looked like shit in the 5th round and I’m sure that’s why the judges scored it the way they did. If he woulda looked good in the 5th I’m sure they woulda gave it to Reyes

  • @gmartines8511
    @gmartines85112 жыл бұрын

    when I heard unanimous decision I knew they gave it to Jones I mean clearly that 4-1 judge don't know shit

  • @khalidqureshi3168

    @khalidqureshi3168

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, the other 2 judges dont know shit as well tbh

  • @xunsungwar77

    @xunsungwar77

    2 жыл бұрын

    U are too innocent. That 4-1 judge don know shit? I think he is up to something. $$$$

  • @gimlysadasda

    @gimlysadasda

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xunsungwar77 Its just as likely to be either of them, or even both haha. MMA judges seem to have basic boxing judging knowledge at best

  • @clockworkman8210

    @clockworkman8210

    2 жыл бұрын

    its fixed, protecting the cashcow if we only knew how much sport is controlled and fixed to maximise the wealth we're better to play dumb and enjoy it lol

  • @khalidqureshi3168

    @khalidqureshi3168

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clockworkman8210 i don't really think that's the case.....i know of a controversial decision that involves the cashcow losing, cejudo vs dj 2. They might just be bad decisions or maybe what they see, its obviously impossible for them to see all we can because of different angles

  • @saeres9288
    @saeres92882 жыл бұрын

    Awesome stuff as always! Can you do one on Shogun rua vs machida 1? That was a huge robbery back in the day

  • @citadel9611
    @citadel961111 ай бұрын

    This fight really p!ssed me off. Reyes clearly won this fight. It is these kinds of fights why I quit boxing.

  • @piipoovv6267
    @piipoovv62672 жыл бұрын

    If he won Reyes might of had the mental toughness and confidence to beat Jan.

  • @unsuccessfulhuman5885

    @unsuccessfulhuman5885

    2 жыл бұрын

    I disagree on the pure fact the Jan has never lost to a southpaw fighter.

  • @piipoovv6267

    @piipoovv6267

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@unsuccessfulhuman5885 I honestly didn’t know that..good point😂

  • @jhuntley575

    @jhuntley575

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ever since jan hung that guy in that tree then kept the rope he has special powers

  • @cawbaird5711

    @cawbaird5711

    2 жыл бұрын

    No because is on mine he won

  • @TheArtimusMaximus

    @TheArtimusMaximus

    2 жыл бұрын

    We'll never know about those psychological things have a big factor.

  • @martinjohnson2381
    @martinjohnson23812 жыл бұрын

    @TheWeasle building in your point that it's all about damage, what do you think of the idea of keeping your tally for l/m/h attacks, dropping the 'total' count and replacing it with a score, where a: Light = 1 Medium = 1.25 Heavy = 1.5 This way we focus on total 'damage' and not total 'strikes' (where we don't actually count damage as a factor)? Great channel, thanks for the content.

  • @cassanateli

    @cassanateli

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like significant strikes vs strikes to me

  • @francismartial6427
    @francismartial64272 жыл бұрын

    I'm a huge Reyes fan and will always defend the claim that he should've been crowned champ that night but the respect I have for Jones that after almost a decade on top is still beating these top guys/having very competitive fights with them is truly amazing and something Gus, Santos or Reyes could never replicate. An almost unbeatable legacy that only the 1% of the 1% can accomplish

  • @metalcoremania1

    @metalcoremania1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Before usada bro. Relax. That matters

  • @Chris-2

    @Chris-2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@metalcoremania1 but why? Pretty much everyone Jon beat before USADA was on gear too lmao…. It’s not like he was the only one juicing, so I don’t see how it invalidates his legacy back then. And believe me, I’m not a big fan on Jon lol

  • @metalcoremania1

    @metalcoremania1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Chris-2 solid point fair play tbh

  • @Chris-2

    @Chris-2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@metalcoremania1 I feel you tho man, I’ve never disliked someone I’ve never met before as much as Jon Jones lmao. He definitely lost the Reyes fight, but his legacy is just impossible to deny otherwise. I wish he wasn’t such an awful human being so I could be a fan lmao

  • @Jiggaballs64

    @Jiggaballs64

    10 ай бұрын

    @@metalcoremania1 True but remember that Jones fought a juiced up roidhead vitor belfort that was knocking out everyone

  • @thanevakarian9762
    @thanevakarian97622 жыл бұрын

    “It’s about damage” who needed help leaving the cage?

  • @freeninj1369

    @freeninj1369

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s a round based scoring system not a overall one😭

  • @nickbarnes8279

    @nickbarnes8279

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its also NOT about damage. "effective striking and grappling" is the #1 criteria. Something doesn't have to do much damage to be effective. E.g oblique kick

  • @osamamanan2723

    @osamamanan2723

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nickbarnes8279 effective striking means damaging striking.

  • @osamamanan2723

    @osamamanan2723

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because reyes lost round 5 bad. Round 4 was close.

  • @porkchopsandapplesauce

    @porkchopsandapplesauce

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can eat 300 strikes in the fifth round break your nose and Sprain both your legs as long as you secured the first three

  • @noclipsbarrednick
    @noclipsbarrednick2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 1 minute in and he's already acting like taxes as the new unified rules. Texas does count octagon control and aggression. This makes me not want to even finish this video...

  • @getasimbe

    @getasimbe

    2 жыл бұрын

    No they didn't. Octagon control is counted last in the rules used for that event

  • @noclipsbarrednick

    @noclipsbarrednick

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@getasimbe I misread that at first I thought you said octagon control is not counted. But even if it's counted last you have to take into account that the judges do not see what we see and they steal things from different angles and have to rely on what they can see not what cameras pick up or instant replay. So the judges could have had to go to octagon control because they might have seen an even fight from their angles

  • @getasimbe

    @getasimbe

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noclipsbarrednick I don't disagree with you necessarily. The judges are generally pretty terrible. Doesn't take away from the fact that Reyes won that fight and was robbed, if we follow the judging criteria

  • @noclipsbarrednick

    @noclipsbarrednick

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@getasimbe well I'm more pointing out that the judging is terrible not the judges cuz it's not their fault that they are not allowed to look at the big screen and that they can only take into account what they see from that one angle they sit at

  • @getasimbe

    @getasimbe

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noclipsbarrednick Fair point as well. I also agree with that.

  • @pt1456
    @pt14562 жыл бұрын

    I think its all about how the judged perceived the fight in that moment. Even though Reyes landed the more damaging shots Jones never really showed any signs of being hurt (didnt get rocked or wobbled) and the judges might not have thought they were that good because of that. And because Jones was the one moving forward the majority of the round, they might have seen two fighters with similar output but one was moving forward more. Just a theory though. Still crazy how one judge had it 4-1 Jones.

  • @CasualGamer121

    @CasualGamer121

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea obviously. The point of these videos are to review the fight and determine if the judges made the right choice.

  • @dersuchende1531

    @dersuchende1531

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah the judges just were biased Jones simps.

  • @caspar_gomez

    @caspar_gomez

    2 жыл бұрын

    right. Weasel going through frame by frame in slow mo to pick out a 3 strike difference like that's in any way conclusive. That's impossible in real time, perception and effect DOES matter

  • @dersuchende1531

    @dersuchende1531

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@caspar_gomez Yeah and Dom's striking was wayyyy more effective. If all non-jones fans saw it how can the judges not? (Unless the judges are Jones fanboys as well 😏)

  • @caspar_gomez

    @caspar_gomez

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dersuchende1531 it looked like a super close, non conclusive fight in real time. I think Dom probably edged it technicaly, but without any real damage being done (no knockdowns or cuts etc), jones being champ and finishing strong, we can't call it a robbery. Considering Reyes hasn't done shit in the division since, they probably made the right call

  • @ashishshinde9871
    @ashishshinde9871 Жыл бұрын

    with all those Heavy shots we expect Jons to backdown but, he doesn't he keeps on fighting that show the heart of true champion. Plus there were 5 round you've to break all of them

  • @dude-us9gy
    @dude-us9gy Жыл бұрын

    It’s sad being from Texas and seeing the Texas commission screw up yet again…

  • @S.A.N.503
    @S.A.N.5032 жыл бұрын

    Joanna vs Weili is absolutely one of the greatest fights I've ever seen! That would be a awesome breakdown video! 💯

  • @cf7804

    @cf7804

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Hot Balls ...it was one of the greatest fights ever regardless of how long someone had been watching the MMA...

  • @S.A.N.503

    @S.A.N.503

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Hot Balls I've been watching MMA since 2004. And I stand by my statement 100% that fight has everything. Great striking technique, footwork, endurance, toughness, heart, and they were very closely matched. We just didn't see any ground work. Not sure what you think a great fight is? But I have a feeling I know...

  • @maiyy3549

    @maiyy3549

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Hot Balls L

  • @Joseabh24

    @Joseabh24

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bro but weili absolutely won lol, didnt you saw that alien head of joanna?

  • @Joseabh24

    @Joseabh24

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bro but weili absolutely won lol, didnt you saw that alien head of joanna?

  • @prashant2840
    @prashant28402 жыл бұрын

    Khabib vs Tibau You gotta do it Weasle 🙏

  • @TheArtimusMaximus

    @TheArtimusMaximus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good call but I definitely had K winning on closer viewing. Love to be proven otherwise though

  • @prashant2840

    @prashant2840

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheArtimusMaximus I also think Khabib won very slightly. But it was so close they could have given it to Tibau and it would still be fine. No robbery because it was too close

  • @Los150
    @Los150 Жыл бұрын

    A 49-46 is WILD 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @earl3219
    @earl32192 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant video Weasle well done.

  • @ets9326
    @ets93262 жыл бұрын

    You should've done RD 2. It's much closer than you're saying because Reyes misses with most of his attacks. One Judge did score it for Jones and gave Reyes Rd 3 which I believe is the correct scorecard.

  • @chancegray4923
    @chancegray49232 жыл бұрын

    Definitely would love to see a breakdown of Joanna vs Weili next. Lots of people think that was one of, if not, the best UFC fights of all time due to being such a closely contested, high pace fight the whole way through

  • @freshcakes1382
    @freshcakes13822 жыл бұрын

    Loving these breakdowns and the idea of objective point scoring instead of the opinions of the 3 stooges in the judges chairs.

  • @The_Primary_Axiom
    @The_Primary_Axiom2 жыл бұрын

    You should do one of these with the Izzy vetorri 1 fight. This series is a good idea, you should definitely make this a regular series.

  • @rucelleandrotorres7794
    @rucelleandrotorres77942 жыл бұрын

    Nunes vs Shevchenko 2

  • @TayKhaiYi
    @TayKhaiYi2 жыл бұрын

    I am surprise no one talks about that jumping kick Jones landed on Reyes before the end of round 3 I was amused when I saw it the first time. Maybe that why the judges gave that round to Jones because they were impressed. In my opinion btw.

  • @kelle4682

    @kelle4682

    2 жыл бұрын

    Casual, one strike doesn’t overweigh Reyeses 8 more hard strikes. Jones clearly lost that fight and you know it.

  • @jhuntley575

    @jhuntley575

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kelle4682 casual

  • @xunsungwar77

    @xunsungwar77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Casual...

  • @xunsungwar77

    @xunsungwar77

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jhuntley575 casual

  • @xunsungwar77

    @xunsungwar77

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don be stupid. U seriously believe just because the judges said Jon Jones won and u really believe Jon Jones won? Judges are human too don u think there is a possibility where judges bet on Jon Jones and refused to let Jon Jones lose? U seriously think 911 twin tower incident is done by terrorist just because the news announced it's done by the terrorist? Despite this video clear break down u still think Jon Jones won? I am done bro... Feel with your heart don just see with your eyes..

  • @lowki4320
    @lowki4320 Жыл бұрын

    this fight was not a robbery by no means

  • @madgavin7568

    @madgavin7568

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes it was.

  • @bazdaniels7420
    @bazdaniels7420 Жыл бұрын

    Great, quality stuff!!

  • @andrewcruz1931
    @andrewcruz19312 жыл бұрын

    I loved the ‘alternate future’ part lol , that was very interesting.

  • @darraghthebadass4117
    @darraghthebadass41172 жыл бұрын

    REYES WON 3-2 EASY FIGHT TO SCORE

  • @Jack_80

    @Jack_80

    2 жыл бұрын

    munhoz vs edgar was an easier fight to score, munhoz won far more clearly than reyes did, but weasel said that wasn't a robbery. i'd love to see him do one of these videos on that fight, because there's no possible way he could do it and not acknowledge it was a robbery. he seems to know how scoring works, so i think that knowing how much everyone loves edgar, he was just telling them what they wanted to here. not surprisingly, mma guru was the only one to point out that obvious robbery. munhoz outlanded him in 4 rounds, by double digits in 3 of those rounds, and was the aggressor the entire fight. edgar got a couple nothing takedowns that munhoz popped right back up from, which according to the latest scoring criteria, are worth NOTHING, yet people still use those couple nothing takedowns to justify that blatant robbery. i'm really glad munhoz went on to win after that and edgar went on to lose.

  • @crazygingerjakeholden2771

    @crazygingerjakeholden2771

    2 жыл бұрын

    Could be 4-1 reyes.

  • @ungabunga2472

    @ungabunga2472

    2 жыл бұрын

    it really is

  • @darraghthebadass4117

    @darraghthebadass4117

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Jack_80 the WEASEL lmao 😂

  • @Fearthesmoke
    @Fearthesmoke2 жыл бұрын

    A whole new series “What if the other guy won” you say everything that would’ve happened.

  • @sportingminds3311
    @sportingminds33112 жыл бұрын

    Dude keep this series going!

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