Next?

@tyopYT

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙌

@AkamapD

2 жыл бұрын

Masvidal vs Iaquinta

@Kuba-qo7un

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you brotha.

@waldstuhl2099

2 жыл бұрын

Bisping vs silva

@essasiddiqui8180

2 жыл бұрын

Jon Jones v Gustaffson

I'd love to see Shevchenko vs Andrade who really won. Not a lot of people noticed, but Andrade managed to cause some serious damage to Shevchenko's elbow with her forehead attacks.

@artofmartialcinemaamc5334

2 жыл бұрын

Lmaoooo, you had me up till the end, not even gonna lie 👏🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼

@victorsilvapacheco9630

2 жыл бұрын

Lool

@aamirhafeezkhan1771

2 жыл бұрын

@miggareto : And that too those were immediate attack..

@hung_guanciale8275

2 жыл бұрын

This made me lol. Commenting so I can find it later! Thank you @miggareto :D

@maroofali2142

2 жыл бұрын

Ngl...you had me in the first part

WONDERBOY VS WOODLEY “Draw” NEXT PLS!

@I_barely_know

2 жыл бұрын

Out of pure bias wonderboy won every round 10-7

@aneessaaghniya9931

2 жыл бұрын

I truly believe the Fight Is a draw, There’s no better guy than the other that night, Both guy Equally better that night, and it deserves to be a draw

@kalvinreese8387

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao that fight was a 💤 but okay

@PreacherLawson

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@loganb9111

2 жыл бұрын

@@PreacherLawson aye wassup bro

“Let’s get right into it man” Immediately gets an ad.

@BudMasta

2 жыл бұрын

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@artofmartialcinemaamc5334

2 жыл бұрын

@@BudMasta You don't even have to do that, there's a much easier way around it. Besides I didn't know adblock works for the YT app?

@juliusnadar7802

2 жыл бұрын

KZread Vance apk

@SPACECOWBOY705

2 жыл бұрын

@Vlad Flutur Lance Vance Dance?

@vasilirikardsson

2 жыл бұрын

YT premium is like 10$/month, I'm not a big fan of Alphabet inc but so far so good :)

Romero watching the video: "YU SINK THA WA A HEAVY SHOT WEASU BOI? DID NOFING! Si yu sun, boi!"

@dex2862

2 жыл бұрын

😂 😂😂😂

@itiswhatitis6673

2 жыл бұрын

I read this in Yoel’s voice 😂

@gigioleao

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ar1AnX1x 😂😂 I'm changing the spelling good one

@kanthony9154

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ar1AnX1x 😂😂😂

This was the type of fight where both the fighters are so likeable that you wouldn't want either of them to lose

@MrBEEOUTCH

2 жыл бұрын

This the type of comment where I regret scrolling to see someone say the same benign shit about any two fighters. Enjoy your likes.

@Channel4Snakes

2 жыл бұрын

I hate these type of fights bro 😪

Just a reminder that Whitaker literally changed Yoel’s face during this fight. Lot of fighters say things like “i’ll change your face” and so on but Bobby actually did. Both fighters walked away with some type of permanent trauma i’m sure of it.

@sweetneko1257

2 жыл бұрын

Well I mean Yomero has complications with an eye. I still think it was cuz of the nasty fucking head kick

@centurion_ratslayer

Жыл бұрын

Whitaker nearly broke his hand and ankle just hitting romero

@BruceLee1.0

11 ай бұрын

just a reminder whittaker started doing chicken dance in the fight after getting rocked

How to win an mma fight: Step 1 - Be a heavybag for 4 minutes and 30 seconds Step 2 - Land 1 big strike

@captaincaveman471

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot miss weight.

@medinbeqiri8346

2 жыл бұрын

Romero out landed Robert significantly in the first round? You are making a super biased and generalized joke because your mad he thought Romero won lol.

@raulsanchez543

2 жыл бұрын

2 big strikes, 4 if you can slow down the fight to watch it frame by frame

@raulsanchez543

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ar1AnX1x seriously, this

@simi8658

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ar1AnX1x lol roy nelson p4p goat confirmed

Rd 1: 10-9 Whittaker Rd 2: 10-9 Whittaker Rd 3: 10-9 Romero Rd 4: 10-9 Whittaker Rd 5: 10-8 Romero This is one of those fight that could have gone either way. It was razor close and probably should have been a draw. But Damn some people out here calling it a robbery are on some shit

@user-nv2wt4hi8t

Жыл бұрын

On some local shit

@RAREANGEL

11 ай бұрын

Round 3 is 10-8 Robb got hurt like 5 times

@GEEZYEA777

Ай бұрын

If you ignore the 10-8 rule then this scorecard makes sense but romero shoulda won

"They do not need to dominate to get a 10-8" 5 seconds later: They must dominate to get a 10-8

@MossFauna

2 жыл бұрын

It says that to GUARANTEE a 10-8 round you have to dominate, Weasle even says that lol, they're saying you can get a 10-8 if you don't dominate the entire round, but if you do, you MUST get a 10-8

@agkizzy5405

Жыл бұрын

It wouldn’t matter in the context of the video because Yoel met like 4 of the criterias to get a 10-8 and u have to at least consider one of them. He was dominating the round. Also consider majority of the round he was holding whittaker against the cage(control time) it was a 10-8 no question.

@4nt3lol90

Жыл бұрын

Ur slow asf

Hendricks vs GSP NEEDS to be next. One of the most controversial fights in ufc history

@tachimesan6133

2 жыл бұрын

Weasle already stated that he HEAVILY BELIEVES that Hendricks won that fight

@Wyatt_Riley

2 жыл бұрын

@@tachimesan6133 The dude who wasn't taking tons of steroids automatically wins any close fight

@tachimesan6133

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wyatt_Riley I said he "heavily believes" it. I didn't say that he was right. Although on that note, I also believe that Hendricks won that fight, especially considering the judging criteria they used at the time.

@Wyatt_Riley

2 жыл бұрын

@@tachimesan6133 I'm not arguing what Weasle said it's his opinion I'm just stating mine. I think any close fight should go to the guy who wasn't cheating his ass off with steroids

@donovanchilton5817

2 жыл бұрын

Bigg pigg won that fight, mate

It didn't say "heavily favored" it said "favored more heavily" which only means that it counts more and doesn't provide any real measure of how much.

@Bagwell75

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh this. The uploader misunderstood the rule I think.

@jinjaninja1565

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir. He's pretty convincing that it isn't a 10-8, then proceeds to say definitely a 10-8 lol

@ianandersen2130

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah weasel's missed the point on this one, more heavily doesn't mean one heavy strike is worth two, three or more light or medium strikes, just that is worth more, how much is up to the judge. It's all opinion anyway so no big deal, but at least get the basic idea correct.

The 10-8 is so tough to determine because Whittaker landed that big kick near the end of the round, so his effectiveness obviously wasn't gone. Also, he came out the next round guns blazing. The rules are just way too subjective. I know we talk a lot of shit on judges, but I don't envy them on fights like these.

@TheRealSwampOperator2

2 жыл бұрын

Thats why I think the judging should be reserved for three round fights. And that all five round fights should be fought to a stoppage. Tko, submission. Fight it all the way out untill somwbody is done or gets finished. These guys sacrifice so much to leave such important life altering career decisions to judges that usually suck and having to ude ambiguous rules. Id actually perfer all fights to ve fought to a stop but I know thats not feasible due to time constraints... But there aint no reason that championship or main event fights cant be settled definitively. Wed really know at the end who was better Nate dia would be the lw and ww champ and p4p#1 😂😂😂

@done1961

Жыл бұрын

What happens the next rounds is completely irrelevant. How he looks on his stool is irrelevant, it’s about what haeppend from bell to bell inside the 5 minutes of that round

@BigWhiskey_Mike

Жыл бұрын

@@done1961 Ok fair, take out the one sentence about the next round, the point I made about it being subjective as hell still stands

@redneckrambo9626

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSwampOperator2 that's the single most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire life and I HAVE to assume you're dicking around lol. It's a sport. There are time limits in sports. If fights simply went to a finish with no limit, half of them would just end with exhaustion, not an actual finish lol. And literally no one wants to see that. I don't want to see fighters running away and just lasting long enough until their opponent tires out. That sounds horrible. And it would completely and utterly discourage fighters from going after it if they know they have better cardio

@agkizzy5405

Жыл бұрын

@@BigWhiskey_Mike it’s definitely objective but when fans or casual watchers look at the rules it’s fairly easy to say who won this fight. I do agree it’s subjective but I think objectively from a rules standpoint it should have gone to Yoel.

You should definitely do Zhang Weili vs Joanna next

@jeffliang1718

2 жыл бұрын

Are you smoking crack? Max Holloway vs Calvin Kattar next?

@johnhuey8511

2 жыл бұрын

Joanna won

@jakesnake2354

2 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY

@zanedickson2725

2 жыл бұрын

Joana, she won in Rose 2 aswell..

It's all well and good doing a 20 minute breakdown, strike-for-strike. When you class a kick to the temple from Whittaker as a Medium strike - it's not exactly being fair.

@3lankfac32

2 жыл бұрын

Cool story bro

@stuffbyaaron1811

2 жыл бұрын

@@3lankfac32 Took us right back to the mid 2000's with that witty input.

@sunnyilya7876

2 жыл бұрын

The way he started randomly assigning Romero jab's as heavy strikes, might as well give Dan Hooker a 50-45 over Felder...

@stephenhartley2853

2 жыл бұрын

what? that kick that landed with the toes?

@beni2504

2 жыл бұрын

i mean he repeatedly said whittakers strikes glanced +0, Yoel's stikes glances, +1, not to mention a "light elbow" is equal to a slap? IDK if anyones been "lightly elbowed" in a fight...

‘Judges must consider giving the score of 10-8 when a fighter shows dominance in the round even though no impactful scoring against the opponent was achieved’ And ‘If a fighter has little to no offensive output during a 5 minute rounds it should be normal for the judge to consider awarding the losing fighter 8 points’ Weasle explain to me why round 1 wasn’t a 10-8 to Whittaker?

@thedeep2202

Жыл бұрын

If that’s the case then round 5 should be a 10-7 for Yoel

@agkizzy5405

Жыл бұрын

Lmao sure u could go there but then every round Yoel wins is a 10-8 to 10-7. Let’s face is Yoel got robbed but that doesn’t take anything away from rob he was in there with the T1000

@mmainvesting7013

Жыл бұрын

Nah it’s more on the basis when a heavy amount of damage and output is employed on the opponent, and the opponent isn’t able to get anything going at all. Bottom line, rob didn’t do enough damage to get a 10-8.

Dude you truly evolved as a provider of MMA content. The fact that you're really digging into the rules I think it's probably some of the best stuff you've done so far. So many people are uneducated in the actual rules of MMA. You're my most recommended channel. Good work

Can we just ALL appreciate the fact that we are literally watching "as good as it gets"??!!! 2 of the BEST FIGHTERS IN THE WORLD....MAYBE UNIVERSE.. So tough so skilled so able and prepared. Instant classic by proper definition!! Thank you you 2!!! Wish the best for these warriors

@mmainvesting7013

Жыл бұрын

Nah you know those aliens got hands out there somewhere!

UFC 143: Nick Diaz vs Carlos Condit This one needs to be the next one broken down!!

@WhentheBehelitScreams

2 жыл бұрын

Condit beat him. He fought a super technical fight, he barely took damage and landed the more significant strikes. Nick plodded forward and condit bounced around him picking him apart. People love the Diaz bros to the point of being blinded by their performances.

@manashdoley2939

2 жыл бұрын

@@WhentheBehelitScreams lol 😂

11:35 Couldn't you argue Whittaker did the same to Romero during the round? Obviously not to the same extent, but shouldn't that cancel this out? I think it's a stretch to say he 100% won the round as a 10-8 yet you did it as if you had no doubt whatsoever.

@path8969

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same

@crazykubla

2 жыл бұрын

The judging criteria is the problem here, it relies way too heavily on how people view words like 'impact' or 'damage'. No other sport has this, a goal in soccer isn't based on an opinion, it simply is. Same with football, basketball, tennis, every other sport has a definitive scoring system. The UFC won't push for any changes, because it benefits them to occasionally have controversial decisions. The UFC has always walked this tightrope between being a competitive sport or just an entertainment business, which is why they are successful, but may also end up ruining them if they continue the charade without picking a side.

@jeremyharper9393

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah all the light strikes were definitely more, but the medium and heavy strikes were basically even

@jeremyharper9393

2 жыл бұрын

Fool be tripping sometimes

@prandz420

2 жыл бұрын

There’s also a weird argument for whittaker getting a 10-8 in round 1 on account of Romero having zero effective output at all. I think whittaker won 28-27 maybe a draw at best for romero. Romero definitely didn’t get 2 10-8s

Just a food for thought, the 2nd round couldnt have been 10-8 for whittaker? I always thought so but never actually saw anyone sharing the same sentiment.

@agkizzy5405

Жыл бұрын

Yoel was active and whittaker never hurt him visibly enough to say that he was close to dropping/finishing him.

@agkizzy5405

Жыл бұрын

If whittaker did land a strike that dropped or hurt Romero bad it’s a 10-8. Or if Romero wasn’t active at all it’s also a 10-8. But he was active and he was never hurt bad. So definitely not a 10-8 based off theses rules

@agkizzy5405

Жыл бұрын

And at the end of the day if u think round 2 was a 10-8 then u quite literally HAVE to say round 5 is a 10-8. It’s difficult to say rob won this fight but ay shit happens

Masvidal vs Iaquinta next👌🏼

@brickflair8926

2 жыл бұрын

Yep just commented this as well!

@artofmartialcinemaamc5334

2 жыл бұрын

Very good suggestion. I'm about to watch that fight now, cause I don't remember it much.

I'm not even mad, because yoel missed weight. 🤷‍♂️

@magicM526

2 жыл бұрын

It don't even matter cuz they both come in overweight on fight day

@lonemaus562

Жыл бұрын

So what ? As soon as they get off the scale they go back to like 40 pounds overweight

@thefinalhammer5442

Жыл бұрын

@@lonemaus562 meaning he wouldn't have been a champion anyways. Maybe in the people's eyes but similar to what happened with Oliveira he wouldn't have held the belt.

@thefinalhammer5442

Жыл бұрын

@@lonemaus562 so even if you'll won, rob would have remained champ. Non title fight.

@lonemaus562

Жыл бұрын

@@thefinalhammer5442 I know.. dislike the weight cutting for that reason.

I dont really agree with your assesment regarding the 4th round. I understand the rules state immediate damage should be favored heavily, but where do we draw the line? Landing 4 heavy shots outweighs 49 strikes? As you said, the rules kinda leave it up to interpretation, and in my interpretation, Whittaker won the 4th.

@redraven123

2 жыл бұрын

Did you deal more damage than your opponent? Yes? Then you won the round. Pretty simple.

@byZwoosh

2 жыл бұрын

@@redraven123 well damage is not really an exact thing therefore inherently hard to quantify. Both sides have an arguement in my oppinion was my point.

@LordKeram

2 жыл бұрын

@@byZwoosh Agree with you, the whole damage criteria is actually so flawed. We know for a fact certain fighters can get lightly grazed and open up an old cut, not really getting damaged much unless the cut impacts their vision. On the other side some of the probably most damaging strikes will go unnoticed by the human eye (torn acl, brain damage/swelling etc.). I would also agree that even if the rules state heavily, can you really overcome twice the amount of strikes with a couple of well timed shots? While I wouldn't follow boxing in many aspects, one thing that so far has been consistent and should imo stay that way is that if you chase the knockout you will lose on points (unless you are dominating ofc).

@byZwoosh

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordKeram I also agree the damage criteria is flawed, but then this brings up the obvious question: how should we judge effective striking objectively? I think when we are talking about abstract and hardly quantifiable metrics (such as damage, because as you said, many things go unnoticed by the human eye), it will always come down to human interpretation. I still believe my point stands, because that's how I personally interpret it, but I can also see what Weasle is saying. Doesn't make his or my point any less valid in my oppinion.

@LordKeram

2 жыл бұрын

@@byZwoosh Agree, I generally don't have much issue with the judging currently (I generally get the fights right or at least the same as the judges). My only issue is with no 10/10 rounds. as a shit ton of fights recently has been 2 first rounds are pretty even and then one fighter gets ahead, but maybe he loses the first two rounds by the slimmest of margin.

These videos are a great idea!!! Keep em coming !!

dude this is not only the best mma channel, I'm starting to think that this is hands down the best channel on the platform!

@icecoldchilipreppers6496

2 жыл бұрын

Chill lol

@shidoshi088

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed 👍

@FartCakes

2 жыл бұрын

OK bud

I respectfully disagree. As you state immediate impact is weighed heavier. It does not however trump cumulative. the ratio is unclear and subjective so to say Yoel won the 4th round as is an opinion not a fact. as for the 10-8 I would point out if you finish the round with a head kick that would knock anyone else out it would suggest you haven't been suitably impacted enough by the earlier exchanges to warrant a 10-8 score against you.

@mediocrates1937

2 жыл бұрын

A head kick that broke Romero's orbital and put him out for over a year.

@TheStraightestWhitest

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALYXTANKBACKPACK A kick that breaks your skull is more significant than a kick that puts you away. Ask any fighter if they'd rather be knocked out or have their skull fractured, and they will tell you they'd pick the former 10/10 times. Yoel had fractures in his face, the back of his head, and even his ribs or something. His leg was fucked too. He couldn't train for months and couldn't fight for a year. The only reason he was still on his feet was willpower, steroids, and a steel plate in his neck which according to Dos Anjos (who's got one in his jaw) absolutely keeps you from getting knocked out and can even damage your opponent. And Yoel still being on his feet despite looking good in that fight, likely didn't do him any favors in life.

@TheStraightestWhitest

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALYXTANKBACKPACK ''Also the injuries he sustain has nothing to do with scoring at all.'' It does. Damage trumps everything, and Rob dished out the most damage by far.

This is my go to channel for this type of breakdown. Seriously thanks for the hard work a lot of good content

huge respect to Robert’s chin, was probably never the same after this

@OGxSoup

2 жыл бұрын

No one is the same after fighting Yoel except Izzy who leg kicked Yoel for a win.

@swashbuckler2319

2 жыл бұрын

He had a decent chin against Till

@kamakhyagatekanu

2 жыл бұрын

@@OGxSoup Smart Izzy

@kimiorahenry179

2 жыл бұрын

Yoel was never the same after fighting Robert. Goes hand in hand 🤷🏽‍♂️

@madgavin7568

2 жыл бұрын

@@OGxSoup Can't blame Izzy for fighting smart. Yoel should and could have done so much more to win. He can afford to take hits from Izzy in order to land his own, he has a cinderblock for a chin after all.

Missing weight is a instant loss IMO

Wow you put in so much work in your videos breaking these down thank very much

respect for the upload

I can not agree that R4 goes to Romero. Either is for 10-8 R3, Whittaker also landed heavy blows: elbows and a high kick, which caused a huge damage. I can not give a 10-8 when both fighters ate big shots. Normal damage from Rob -> huge damage from Romero -> big damage from Rob -> big damage from Romero -> big damage from Rob -> big damage from Romero. That's not looking as a 10-8. If Rob didn't go successfully offensive - I would give a 10-8 round. Judges often give 10-8 rounds when one fighter can't do anything meaningful and recieve a lot of damage. In R3 of this fight we can see that both fighters hurt each other - medium damage from Rob and large from Romero. Romero let Whittaker go successfully offensive and this is the most important part. With this factors, I have it 48-47 for Whittaker.

@redneckrambo9626

Жыл бұрын

You're not understanding the criteria if you think a fighter can't take damage to win a 10-8 round. That's not how the criteria is listed. The damage disparity in that round was unbelievably extreme. Yeah Romero took some big ones but it absolutely paled in comparison to what he dealt. Based on the criteria and how it is explicitly listed, that doesn't just qualify, it WARRANTS a 10-8.

I love this series!! Thanks for your great work and much luv from germany

What an amazing fight. Thanks for doing this video, great work man.

17:28 TL:DR It doesn't say that Immediate is HEAVILY more favored, it says that Immediate is favored more heavily, which is EXTREMELY ambiguous as to how much more, but you decide to assume that it is the way you read it (which was linguistically wrong) and then score in favor of Romero. I'm not blaming you, I'm saying that this is the issue with that scoring system and therefore even you are getting it wrong because it's not clearly identified. Like I said in your last upload, this is NOT what that lines says. The way you're reading it implies that Immediate is HEAVILY favored over Cumulative (ex: Cumulative = 5 points, Immediate = 10 points.... and Romero wins) However, it is NOT saying that. It simply states that it is calculated more heavily, without stating anything else to make an assumption as to how much more it counts for so it could only be a little more heavily weighed in (ex: Cumulative 5, immediate 6... and Whitaker wins). This is the issue with this system, which you do sort of state, but then you go ahead and score Immediate as HEAVILY favored, yet it is not stated as that.

@HiddenStr3ngth

2 жыл бұрын

How does one misinterpret that so badly.. Seemed a bit biased towards Romero. It's a close fight, can probably argue either way. 1st watch i was pretty iffy on Whittaker, 2nd watch, it wasn't as bad as i remembered other than Whittaker getting dropped.

@sunnyilya7876

2 жыл бұрын

@@HiddenStr3ngth Yeah I've gone over this fight dozens of times since 2018 everyone has already come to a conclusion it was a draw or w for whittaker. And weasel comes in, pretends to do a technical analysis and gets a 48-46 romero lmao. Guy is the biggest source of misinformation on mma youtube.

@TheStraightestWhitest

2 жыл бұрын

@@HiddenStr3ngth Yup it was purely Whittaker getting dropped that made people think he lost. But he dominated the fight. Same thing with Hooker. Got dropped early, but dominated the fight.

Can you breakdown Darren Till (how few dimensions he has to his game) and what he needs to do going forward to improve his game?

@RichardVSmall

2 жыл бұрын

What he could do to improve: 1) Throw anything other than a 1-2. 2) That's it.

great video Weasle

Definitely one of my favorite segments you do

Didn’t you release this already haha? I saw the video earlier 😅

@TheWeasleMMA

2 жыл бұрын

Had to change something

@adipyramidadmal

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWeasleMMA Did you change it to a tie? The rightful answer.

@HUGO-MMA

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWeasleMMA could you do Michael bisping vs Dan Henderson 2

@heisenb3rg

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWeasleMMA weasel can I be ur sugar daddy

@TheWeasleMMA

2 жыл бұрын

@@heisenb3rg Sure 😉

Holy cow I swear I was watching this yesterday and wondered if this or GSP Hendricks was next. Lol a fun watch as always.

loved watching this

Hmmmm... so wouldn’t Whittaker deserve a 10-8 for round 2? He was lighting Romero up, though that was mostly due to Romero not doing much at all. To be clear, I didn’t think he should get a 10-8 for round 2.

@katte2223

2 жыл бұрын

According to the judging criteria, yes because visible damage (broken orbital bone) and overwhelming cumulative damage in light and medium attacks done by Rob. Weasel made some good points for that 3rd rnd being a 10-8 (although I think his assessment of Rob's impactful shots is wrong and I think it was 10-9) but 4th rnd, Rob won imo. Using his interpretation of the rules, if you dominate someone for sustained duration but get rocked once or dropped, you lose the rnd. You have to use your brain when reading the rules, and not just blindly follow them. Even with correct interpretation, hurting someone twice whilst getting dominated for sustained duration (things considered in the criteria) doesn't mean you win the rnd.

Hey Wease, really enjoy the mma break downs! Any chance you have time to break down both Canello and GGG fights. Thanks man

It was a tough competitive razor-close fight that could have easily gone the other way around, but I had Whittaker winning the fight.

@benaskrensintellect332

2 жыл бұрын

Hkw tf do u figure its razor close after seeing the strike count and damage lmao sal jr

@Jack_80

2 жыл бұрын

@@benaskrensintellect332 i would say a draw after watching this, no way would i give romero a round that whittaker over doubled him in strikes in, so it would be 47-47.

@marinfrombratia

2 жыл бұрын

you can not have whittaker winning the fight, at most a draw... as the third round was an ABSOLUTE 10-8 AND the fith round was AT LEAST 10-9. The only question is.... was the last round 10-8 too?

@YousCouz

2 жыл бұрын

@@marinfrombratia NO way was the third round a 10-8, you can give the 5th round a 10-8 for yoel.

@nabilghafar9150

2 жыл бұрын

@@marinfrombratia nope. Not an ABSOLUTE 10-8 cause Robert hurt Romero too in round 3.

I fw these videos

The Weasle,.a lot of people are still confused. I suggest for your next video do Jorge Masvidal vs Bem Askren who really won?

@kingomugen

2 жыл бұрын

that's gonna be at least an hour long video tho

I don't agree with the 4th round, even due to the criteria. But at the same time, I don't think Rob won it, it was a draw at best.

@Jack_80

2 жыл бұрын

that's what i say, a draw. that round rob over doubled him in strikes in definitely goes to rob. regardless of what the criteria says, if you go by what they actually do the majority of the time, the one landing over double the strikes will always get that round unless there's at least a knockdown.

@the44law

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jack_80 Yeah, If there was a knock down I'd count it as Romero's for sure, or even a few more bigger shots but I think the immediate wasn't enough imo

@the44law

2 жыл бұрын

@KZread mods are Fascist I do mean a draw at best for Robert Whittaker BTW, not for Romero

@mason9807

2 жыл бұрын

that was no draw....so biased man Romero won that shit clearly

@getasimbe

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jack_80 That literally makes zero sense "regardless of what the criteria says"? How can you disregard the criteria? So what are you judging based on, your feelings?

If medium attacks are worth 2x and heavy worth 3x than round 4 would have a total strike count of 55-32 for Whittaker. That’d be a solid 10-9 and the fight would be a draw.

10-8s should be more commonplace. Jan/Izzy had at least one, I'd think.

@williamcoleman2128

2 жыл бұрын

10-7s should be the new 10-8

@jackrourke8358

2 жыл бұрын

which round and for who?

@jackrourke8358

2 жыл бұрын

@KZread mods are Fascist you are kidding i think jan won and i was hoping he won but to imagine he dominated izzy and izzy didnt win a round is delusional i dont think there was a 10 8 in that fight, and it was way closer than you think

@roel250

2 жыл бұрын

I think the 5th round was a 10 - 8 since Izzy was saved by the bell

Once again you have dominated Weasel great analysis!

I still disagree, Whittaker definitely won this fight. I don't see how a Khabib-Conor Round 2 is the same as Whittaker-Romero Round 3? Khabib completely dominated R2 and Romero didn't dominate R3. There is no way Romero won R5 either when he got out struck like that. R1,R2,R5 - Whittaker 10-9 R3,R4 - Romero 10-9 Whittaker 48-47. Even if you score R3 10-8, best case for Yoel was a 47-47 draw but he didn't win the fight.

@davidholomakoff4514

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@yayo_4506

2 жыл бұрын

He explained that in the video you stupid clown

@hashmi1195

2 жыл бұрын

@@yayo_4506 why are you so mad? By his explanation, R1 should be a 10-8 for Whittaker then.

@viktormuerte

2 жыл бұрын

@@yayo_4506 was the insult absolutely necessary? Asking for a friend.

@medinbeqiri8346

2 жыл бұрын

The definition and value of significant strikes and the definition of domination is different with the judging criteria.

I’d go with Whittaker rounds 1,2,4 and Romero 3,5 with no 10-8 rounds for Romero. Round 3 looked dire for Whittaker but he held Romero off enough to make it a 10-9. Same goes for round 5. Round by round Whittaker won, and even when it comes to damage Whittaker messed up a Romero pretty bad, but it’s clear overall that Romero landed the flashier shots, and yet Whittaker landed a lot of pretty good shots.

@prandz420

2 жыл бұрын

Romero wears damage really well. People don’t realise that whittaker broke Romero’s orbital and he had to get surgery and take a year or so off

@JSmooove98

2 жыл бұрын

You can’t wear someone off to make it a 10-9, that’s not how it works. He was almost finished and was holding on to dear life. He was stalling, and had no output to make it a 10-9. Terrible take

respect for going into so much detail about the ruling of a 10 - 8 round

This is a great series

Great video! One of my favorite fights ....especially after you learn that Robert was fighting with a broken right hand since the 1-2nd round. And that kick Romero ate lol... My vote goes to gsp vs Hendricks as well

Weasel is the number 1 mma breakdown channel on ALL of KZread. Hands down. Every broadcaster, journalist, UFC employee lol Should be coming here after all the cards

@fullanarchy

2 жыл бұрын

THE MMA GURU Is up there too. The Weasels production is way better though, but guru is improving his production as well.

@simonscheideler4627

2 жыл бұрын

Check out jack slack

The fact that Robert Whittaker fought the absolute monster that is Yoel Romero while injured shows a lot of determination and courage. Lots of respect to both these guys.

@thedeep2202

Жыл бұрын

He broke his hand on Yoel’s head

AWESOME BREAKDOWN!!! I really wish you would have broken down Holloway Volko 2 like this grading KD in a separate category from HEAVY strikes lol

@melancholymelon4413

2 жыл бұрын

It still wouldn't really change anything

Just me but I think that the illegal strikes (kicks to a grounded opponent, strikes to the back of the head) should be excluded from the count.

Condit vs Lawler, I really want to see your take on this fight

Damn dude, this was the best breakdown that I've ever seen. Excellent! I'm going with split decision.

You don't 'have' give it to Romero. It all depends exactly what you define as 'heavily favoured'. Does this mean one really hard strike is worth 10 smaller but still significant strikes? Far too subjective

Bisping vs Henderson II Bisping vs Anderson Silva Woodley vs Thompson I

@LoadedKlip

2 жыл бұрын

Great choices. I second all of these.

Made Izzy vs Yoel fight next since the fight was So lackluster af, I wanted to see In slow motion how Insanely hard Is the Kick Izzy was Landing on Yoel in that fight, Cuz That Fight Really Needed to be scored by Who landing the more Damaging shots, Since they only landing hard shots but low out put on that fight

Keep up the good work man, Can we get Dillishaw vs Cruz and Johnson vs Cejudo 2 Also did you have to reupload this? I know I commented a couple hours ago.

Brother you are extremely accurate in your assessment especially here in this video!!Great Job!!THE UFC SHOULD PUT YOU IN SOMEWHERE AND PAY YOU YOUR WORTH IN GOLD!!

I love this segment I’d like to see a Costa V Romero breakdown even tho it’s a 3 round. I had Romero but whatever.

"Immediate impact is heavily favored over cumulative impact." *Laughs in Holloway Vs Volkanovski 2*

@heelyBrah

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean? Holloway won the 2 rounds he scored knockdowns in

@enriquepina7692

2 жыл бұрын

The problem isn’t that, its the difference between 10-9 rounds. Max won round 2 by 10-9, and Volk won round 3 10-9, yet those rounds are completely different. Fights should be judged as a single unity, not round by round

@artofmartialcinemaamc5334

2 жыл бұрын

@@enriquepina7692 Whats the point of having rounds then? May as well go back to the old days where everyone fights till a finish then.... (not really, but yeah)

@1994mrmysteryman

2 жыл бұрын

@@enriquepina7692 or some rounds should be given as a draw. That would work better.

@DKRYMMA

2 жыл бұрын

@@1994mrmysteryman that’s an option it just doesn’t happen often because judges prolly feel weird doing it I think there should just be a whole different point system in the sport

YES THANK YOU

100% right! Youre an genius brother

I scored this as a draw live, but considering the fact that one fighter having no output in a 5-minute round means they can lose a 10-8 it's definitely worth considering the possibility that rd 1 was actually a 10-8 for Whittaker. I think Romero's only significant strike landed was a leg kick which was checked, and he was getting jabbed up for about 5 minutes straight. I've always thought that rule was questionable however, as it could definitely reward top control which should be scored the same as octagon control if the rules were consistent. Without calling rd1 a 10-8, there's no way to score the fight other than a draw, 3 was a clear 10-8 and Whittaker clearly won 4. I very much disagree with your interpretation of the rules with regards to round 4, immediate damage weighs more heavily but when you are getting pieced up and constantly hit with significant strikes, getting outstruck by more than 2-1, you can't say that you've won the round because you land 3 heavy shots. Under that interpretation, in a round where heavy attacks are landed the fighter who lands more of them should always win, which is obviously not how a functional judging system would work. I think the key here is that you misunderstand the wording regarding immediate vs cumulative damage. Cumulative damage is when more of a strike's impact came from previous exchanges. Leg kicks are a great example of this, where the same kick gets more of a reaction if 10 kicks have already landed in the fight; even if the fighter's leg buckles more when the 10th kick lands, if they were thrown with similar power that extra damage shouldn't be weighed very heavily *because it was already scored when the previous 9 were landed*. Ultimately you need to look at the sum of all the immediate damage that was actually dealt entirely within that round; damage accumulating through a round is still very significant and should receive full scoring, and the volume of significant strikes Whittaker landed more than makes up for the fact that his damage per shot ratio was lower.

@artofmartialcinemaamc5334

2 жыл бұрын

Breaking your comment up into paragraphs would make people read it more, just saying. You could space it out where you say "I very much....." and "I think the key here is...." , or even "Leg kicks....." , and by the way, I *did not read your whole comment* , just skimmed through it to give you a bit of advice. You could edit it and space it out and people wouldn't be deterred from it because of how it looks. 👍🏼

@billyrueblumenthal9273

Жыл бұрын

I ain’t reading allat

Do Weili vs Joanna next! Keep up the work bro

What was the thing you changed for the reupload?

WHEN YOEL'S ABOUT TO FIGHT IS WHEN I GET GOOSEBUMP.. THANKS FOR DOING THIS WEASLE

“If a fighter has no offensive output during a round” So does this mean that round 1 was 10-8 for Whittaker?

@ghaithgh7729

10 ай бұрын

Does round 5 also mean 10 8 for yoel since he dropped like 5 times in that round

This doesn't even make sense. The head kick from Whittaker is only a heavy attack compared to the weaker 'KD' strike from Romero. How does 7 elbows = 7 medium strikes when they barely affected Whittaker based on the previously mentioned 'Heavy'/'KD' strikes. I agree Romero won the round but you reasoning/ labeling of these strikes is just silly.

I still don’t think Yoel won round 3 by 10-8, Rob did a decent amount of damage to Yoel himself.

I love this series

100% agree we need that third fight. And to be fair if it was anyone else that head kick would have ended the fight in the third.

It was a tie at best, but, Yoel missed weight and iirc Robert would've technically retained the belt in a draw.

@jackthegreek6092

2 жыл бұрын

I always wondered. What happens if the champion misses weight?

@ate0844

2 жыл бұрын

He literally broke down every strike in the last 3 rounds and you're still saying it was a tie hahaha

@jackthegreek6092

2 жыл бұрын

@@ate0844 He's saying *if it was a draw.

@HiddenStr3ngth

2 жыл бұрын

@@ate0844 It's Weasel's opinion, not the word of god or some such.

@auranewaters9574

2 жыл бұрын

@@ate0844 Weasel zealots are annoying af. Its his Interpretation of the rules and he makes some pretty apparent errors like counting head kicks as medium attacks or thinking „counted more heavily“ means „heavily counted“

Ahh the re upload made me think it was another video already seen this one 😫😂

Great content Weasle. Who really won Fiziev V Green? A great fight but hard to score.

How is round 5 a 10-9 but round 3 is a 10-8? Rob didn’t do like anything in the fifth and got hurt and controlled.

@dylanherbert159

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I disagree with that round 3 was 10-9 round 5 was a 10 8 in my opinion

@I_barely_know

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanherbert159 That’s how I see it too.

@syrexlee2021

2 жыл бұрын

Half of the R5 is a passive control, which not give fighter any points

@GirthQuake3

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanherbert159 I also see it that way

Izzy vs Romero next please

You said let's get right in to it then I got a ad

Thanks Weasle. Love these breakdowns. Would you consider doing Sandhagen vs Dillashaw? I was sure Sandhagen won, but would love to hear your take.

I disagree, Whittaker won round 1, 2 & 4. Draw at best for Romero.

@RaviYadav-ds4dd

2 жыл бұрын

Fanboy this man is a fanboy

@ahwmahwm5533

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaviYadav-ds4dd yoel couldnt beat an injured robert,, cringe

These strike by strike breakdowns are amazing. It leaves little room for doubt.

Not to nitpick, but they didn't say that immediate impact is weighed heavily over cumulative, they said they weigh it **more heavily** which just means it's considered more, but it doesn't mean you automatically win the round imo

you may have already done a breakdown of the fight, but id like to see a video like this on dillashaw vs sandhagen

Absolutely not a 10-8 third round. It’s what we call definitely 9-10 but when there are strikes by both opponents that could have ended the fight it cannot be considered 10-8

Why are you counting shots that land to the back of the head? They are illegal and shouldn't be counted. Towards behind the ear is fine, but back of the head shots should not be counted as that is considered a foul by the judging criteria.

I feel like Yoel would have had the potential to beat nearly everyone he fought if he used his wrestling more and fight smarter overall

How many hours does it take to do one of these videos?

Make one of Izzy and Romero. I had Romero winning that fight based on rounds 1,2 and 5. No one has mentioned that fight again, doesnt matter if it was boring.

@sochioranmyaku

2 жыл бұрын

It matters. A title won’t change hands in a fight like that.

@evilMaddogg86

2 жыл бұрын

No body wants to watch that fight twice 😅

@RoyalRecess

2 жыл бұрын

@@evilMaddogg86 Ong 😂

@fullanarchy

2 жыл бұрын

@@sochioranmyaku im fine with izzy keeping the belt, but i would like to see the weasle do a breakdown. Yoel isnt even in the ufc anymore, but thats what these breakdowns are for. To look back at fights. Its just absurd to me how most people just act like it wasnt a close fight and izzy clearly won. Yoel could easily have wins over Rob, Costa and Adesanya

Pretty amazing how you have Romero landing 19 shots through 3:43 in the 4th, but UFC stats only has him landing 20 shots through the entire 4th round.

@grtbgf

2 жыл бұрын

Its easier to count the strikes by watching a replay than during the live action. So yea, i trust weasle

Can you breakdown the Brunson vs Whittaker fight from 2016, and tell us how the fight would be today between them?

We also don’t score depending on volume of medium or heavy strikes. Unless it changed since I saw last, damage is scored by the more potential of ending the bout with your strike. Meaning you could have 1 heavy shot v 5 heavy shots where the 5 landed hard but didn’t shake the fighter whereas 1 heavy shot could cause wobbling all over the place.

Yoel missed weight which should be automatic point deduction IMO, Whittaker nearly tripled his strikes in round 4. Whittaker won IDGAF

@davidholomakoff4514

2 жыл бұрын

Incorrect

@yayo_4506

2 жыл бұрын

Point deduction ? Are you slow 🤣at that point just dont let them fight and you can say you dgaf but that just makes you look like a tool " It's hard to win an argument against a smart person it's impossible to win one against a stupid one"

@Wyatt_Riley

2 жыл бұрын

@@yayo_4506 Missing weight is cheating. Idgaf about whatever salty fanboys have to say. Super close fights go to the dude who's not cheating. Whittaker won regardless but js

@kieancoba7661

2 жыл бұрын

damage > accumulation gtfoh with that point fighting this aint karate.

@captaincaveman471

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wyatt_Riley Exactly. The fact that Robert still smashed yoel even though he cheated makes everything else irrelevant.